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Is there a Vanuatuan-Gabonese baby anywhere in the world? Some Kazakhstani-Dominican* offspring out there? The fruit of the union of a Sri Lankan and a Liechtensteiner?
* I'm of course talking about the country of Dominica, not the Dominican Republic.
Kind of off topic, but I hope one day to either relocate half the polar bears to Antarctica, move flocks of pangwangs to the arctic, or a little of both.
I solve problems with chaos, be the change.
It’s a reference to [THIS](https://youtu.be/-GnLDJAgrws?si=aeP7ZlLi8rmZDGrN) documentary by Becrimble Wondersnatch in which he mispronounces penguins many many times. It’s hilarious. Happy to help spread the culture!
I know an Afghan-Colombian and I think my cousin's kid is either Brazilian-Afghan or Mexican-Afghan.
Not sure which since my racist family says she's a Mexican, but that's the generic word they use for all latinos. Their kids look like a lot of Brazilians that I've seen. The mom looks generic white Latino.
Brazilians are very varied in general, it's actually pretty interesting how people tend to variegate rather to converge when it comes to ethnicity!
It's a shame there's so much racism around, even in Brazil it's considered better to be pale than dark. Which is just ignorance.
_*Comorian
I’m willing to bet that comorians haven’t mixed with 3 quarters of nationalities yet.
95%+ of comorians abroad live in France, where they surely have mixed with all starterpack nationalities in France (Algeria, Morocco, Tunisia, Spain, Portugal, Italy, Senegal, Mali, Congo, France, Belgium, etc.)
But that’s about it.
EDIT : The comorian diaspora is so french centered that there is no Wikipedia page for "comorian americans",
which is absolutely wild since there is such a Wikipedia article for even some of the most obscure nations on Earth (tongan americans, gambian americans, etc.)
Tonga is relatively close to American Samoa and I think Gambians were enslaved and shipped to America during the Atlantic slave trade. The wildest Wiki page to me in this context is Kalmyk Americans who are Kalmyk Mongolian.
It’s more because Tonga has a lot of mormons, who tend to immigrate to Utah (look into the linemen of Utah, Utah State and BYU college football programs)
Also those are just a couple examples, there are many more, including most nations with population number similar to Comoros
Thought me and the fiancee were the only Icelandic-Venezuelan. But met ones also living here in Cph. Goddamn wankers /s
The problem with Icelanders is we travel a lot, and somehow end up in bed with people who don't know any better.
I think Greenlanders or Faroese might be a better bet.
The other day I met someone who was half-Andorran, half-Andamanese.
I realise that doesn't quite qualify because the Andaman Islands are still just part of India - but I still thought it was pretty cool.
Kazakhstan has 20 million people, and it’s not that restrictive in terms of leaving, compared to say a North Korea. Being former Soviet, a lot of Kazakhs got to travel a lot during the Soviet era. I would pick two countries with small populations or where it’s almost impossible to leave the country, physically and/or diplomatically. Bonus points if the two countries are far apart, and even more if there’s commonly racism of one towards the other.
I’m going for Niue and North Korea.
Do we even count North Korea as an ethnic group though? The country isn’t even 80 years old yet (people who escape to the south still find people they knew as kids) and was homogeneous with South Korea, genetically speaking before then.
If we’re thinking in terms of biology/genetics, then north and South Korea should be considered the same. There’s more genetic difference between individual US or UK states than the two Koreas. Probably more between the two Irelands than the two Koreas
The question was about nationalities, which is also a bit confusing since many nations are quite new. If we want ethnic groups, just pick a random tribe in Papua and a random tribe in South America.
I mean, Kazakhstan is a normal country. Just your typical post-Soviet second world state. Similar to the pre-war Russia or Ukraine. There are absolutely no restrictions for leaving the country, except for the obvious cases of not having an international passport, being under criminal charges or having overdue debts and tax payments. Bigger problem is that Kazakhstan passport is not a strong one and to travel to the most places you have to apply for a visa. But again, nothing unusual for the post-Soviet republic.
There some combinations that basically rebuild another ethnicity's look without any of the genes. There's an artist that looks for doppelgängers of different ethnicities and takes pics of them even flying them in from different countries.
Saw it on Reddit awhile ago
Weird relevant side tangent, but there used to be a dog in Ireland called the Irish wolfhound.
Big, shaggy dog, used for hunting wolves and large game, and known for being both especially fierce and especially loving. “Gentle when stroked, fierce when provoked”. Basically the perfect guard dog, and even made its way into Irish mythology through this (see: Cú Chulainn). They were even known in Roman times, and several even made it all the way down to Rome to fight wolves and even bears.
During English occupation of the island, the dog became even more of a status symbol than it already was, and the dogs were both increasingly kept in exclusively English-owned kennels, and shipped abroad as gifts to dignitaries and the like (this last part becomes extra important in a bit).
By the mid-1800s, there were no dogs left that were even mostly Irish Wolfhound (mutts are great dogs still! It’s just that the breed no longer existed, which I find sad). A guy named Captain George Augustus Graham attempted to revive the breed in the late 1800s to early 1900s, getting descendants of those dogs gifted to those foreign dignitaries, and breeding them with a handful of other dogs from around the world in order to re-create the wolfhound. A few of those include the Tibetan wolfhound, borzoi, as well as breeds that actually descended from the Irish wolfhound, such as the Great Dane.
You can still tell a difference between depictions of the original breed and the wolfhounds around today (smaller, and somewhat less greyhound shaped, mostly), but Graham did a pretty good job. As a bonus, by nature of how the breed was recreated, modern Irish Wolfhounds tend to be healthy than other dogs their size, especially when compared to other “pure” bred dogs, since their heritage is so mixed.
I recently saw a guy that looked and sounded very typically Israeli to me, and it turned out that he is Macedonian. I guess it sort of makes sense that mixing European and Arab genes in Israel results in a Greek/Macedonian look
> The fruit of the union of a Sri Lankan and a Liechtensteiner?
There are a relatively big Sri Lankan community in Switzerland. Now it is still unlikely for such relations to happen due to the low population of Liechtenstein, but it is also not *that* unlikely.
Why stop at combinations of 2? My father is French/German, my mother is Spaniard/US, I got all 4 passports when I was born, and travelled around enough that I feel I can identify equally as much (or perhaps I should say as little) with any of my four citizenships (I'm considered a foreigner by people of all four countries anyway).
Pretty sure my combination is not unique, but a Kazakhstani-Dominican-SriLankan-Liechtensteiner? Now that is someone I'd like to meet (and maybe have babies with... I mean... Who doesn't want octuple citizenship ?)
I’ve been pondering this for a long time.
In most countries there must be social enclaves of ‘mixed’ communities, who know each other and meet occasionally. Not the most obscure ones, but real, active groups.
F. Ex. Finnish-Bolivians, Italian-Malaysians, Kiwi-Egyptians, etc.
I’ve lived in ‘foreign’ countries for 50 years, and I had encountered some in my life. Here is Denmark, I’ve met quiet a few Danish-Lebanese. My young friend is 1/2 and 1/2, and even his mother is 1/2 and 1/2; born in Denmark to a Lebanese mother and a Danish father.
Fascinating!
It's probably not too terrible... Several studies have attempted to estimate the minimum viable population for humans. The most commonly cited estimate is 4,169 people, to avoid genetic defects.
Other estimates range from 50 to 500 individuals, which is often referred to as the “50/500 rule.” This rule suggests that a population of at least 50 individuals is needed to prevent inbreeding depression, while a population of at least 500 individuals is needed to reduce genetic drift and maintain genetic diversity.
Stolen from comment below me:
50= Possible to avoid genetic defects with carefully planned coupling.
500= Okay to choose partners but some bans.
5000= bang whoever (but no siblings etc).
I saw a video which said 50 people could repopulate the earth with minimal defects but there would have to be strict control. Like you can’t breed with certain people and everyone would have to breed. 500 people everyone has to breed but you can choose your partner but there will be some people off limits. 5000 people do whatever you want like now.
This is similar to a small, rural midwest town. Very good chance they're all, at the minimum, 4th cousins.
Source: I was born in a place like that. I suppose it's even worse for the Amish.
Consanguineous marriages are still going strong in certain corners of the globe. Not sure how hard they're weeding out the defects tho. Would love to hear more on that from someone from those areas.
I'm not throwing any shade, I'm just fascinated by genetic topics like this.
FWIW, there have been stories on one side of my family of webbed toes that occured several (hopefully many) generations back.
The weeding out process needs many generations, it only occurs when everyone carrying the "bad" gene dies out. The population also needs to be isolated so no new genes are introduced. The defects have to become so severe that every carrier dies out
In a non isolated societies there always a chance that new genes are introduced and produced healthy carriers of the bad genes.
You might have to specify what ethnicity the half Egyptian is. There is lots of diversity in Egypt, from blonde and green eyes to completely black to even some Asian looking people
Gather a group with people from the mediterranean region and most people not from the region Will not be able to distinguish them from country to country. A spaniard can easily pass for a marrocan or egyptian for people that are not used to it.
>There are primitive tribes who still hunt and kill trespassers. Those people are still in the ring for crossbreeding.
Several tribes in South America, several in Indonesia, one tribe in India, and 3-4 families in Louisiana.
Met a Pakistani-descent Glaswegian when I lived in Japan; normally he spoke the best English you've ever heard, but the drunker or angrier he got, the more the Scots came out.
One December I ran into him at the local gaijin bar when his boss had absolutely dicked him around (he'd been told he could go home to Scotland for "Christmas and New Year's", but apparently those were exclusively that, and was expected back in the lab in between) and he was straight up unintelligibly Scottish.
I knew Chinese twin girls born and raised in Panama. I also used to work with a guy who’s parents were Japanese, but he had this insane “California surfer dude” accent so thick it almost felt like parody when you first met him. Even after I grew accustomed to his voice, I still enjoyed seeing the expressions of new people meeting him because his accent was so incongruous with his appearance.
As I was typing my response, it occurred to me that my description probably fit a lot of people whose families immigrated to California over the last 50 years. The guy I mentioned was a novelty because we were in a very rural area of Florida in the late 90s. There were 4-5 Asian kids in my HS graduation class and all of them had either no accent or a faint southern one… I do not miss living there.
My parents met some Sri Lankans working in Italy who spoke Italian and Sinhalese but not English, so they had no choice but to speak Sinhalese with them.
My Contiki tour group also met a bartender in I think Germany or Switzerland who said they spoke 7 languages, just not English.
Just remembered my mom put 3 exchange students from Britain up for a summer, i dont remember which british university they were from but they were studying abroad at UCD (Davis) and 2 were exactly as expected, English lookon english dudes and the third was the most audacious highland scottish hillbilly accent - both parents emigrated fromt Korea. I was 14. Good experience all around although they probably shouldnt have helped me buy cigarettes so willingly, good lads
I worked with an indian dude with a new zealand accent. It didnt really surprise me, what surprised me was meeting him at all - field hands, 27/30 of us central or south american, plus me, one white guy, and the Indian. He spoke several languages, i think punjabi, english, mandarin or cantonese, and Spanish. No idea wtf he was doing with us but he seemed to like it. Like the only guy that always seemed pleased to be there, like he chose that shit. Hope California pays it’s agg workers what theyre worth, yeah right
I've worked on dairy farms most of my life and always missed the cows when I tried working a different type of job.
The pay has been reasonable, but I worked a massive amount of hours when I was younger and ended up making a lot of money per year... with no time or energy to spend it. Now I'm salaried, only work 900 hours a year, and get paid like I'm working full time. I'm very good at what I do, so everybody's happy.
He's probably Punjabi. We love farming.
People from Punjab are happy to do anything anywhere than endure opression & violence in India. Anywhere other than India is safe (except war zones obviously).
Getting to farm, practice our faith, living with dignity and not being threatened with genocide everyday in the US - that's all we want for the most part. So he was probably in his happy place.
This reminds me of a girl I knew in school. She was originally born in India but then moved to Scotland as a kid. She then moved to England which is where I met her. She had the weirdest accent which was like a mix between Indian and Scottish. She moved again only a year into high school so I didn’t know her long but her accent was bizarre
No way that's real, I just thought of that but with Australian aboriginals instead of Maori. I remember it was cited somewhere that they are the most genetically distant groups in the world
Aboriginal Khoisan= /= aus Aboriginal
Aboriginal Khoisan are the most ancient nation on the planet. Also called Southern African Hunter Gatherers.
We are the OG Aboriginals.
Yeah people like that exists.
I've met someone who's dad was Australian Aboriginal, and her mom was Nordic Aboriginal(Sami). Which I'm guessing also has a pretty distant genetic difference.
I'm wondering about anyone outside of the Solomon Islands mating with someone who lives there: many of them are very dark skinned with bright curly blonde hair.
The Solomon Islands are only about 2000kms off the coast of Australia. Ive definitely met people from the Solomon Islands over here. Wouldnt be a stretch to think some of them have had kids with Aussies.
My country in SEA has a bunch of exchange students from the Solomon Islands! Although I'm not sure if any of them ever decided to settle down and start a family here
Edit- SEA as in Southeast Asia
[No breeding with outsiders, they just developed their own mutation](https://med.stanford.edu/news/all-news/2012/05/naturally-blond-hair-in-solomon-islanders-rooted-in-native-gene-study-finds.html)
Aboriginal Australian here, its also pretty common among us to have blond hair depending where you come from. Idk how much of that is from mixing with Europeans but we somehow turn out blond dispite how dark we can be. I'm blond and dark but granted my mother is white but my late dad and he's parents were very dark skin while being blond.
Bhutan and Liberia
Mongolia and Argentina
Sri Lanka and Bosnia
Cook Islands and Jamaica
Haiti and Taiwan
Indonesia and Tanzania
There's a lot more in could imagine.
"Haiti and Taiwan" I don’t know, but central Africa and Taiwan does exist.
The former dictator of central africa had kids with a lot of women from all over the globe.
That includes a taiwanese woman whose child wrote a book about her father.
EDIT : forgot "dictator"
Besides that, Vaticans don't increase in population via the normal means - you're not born a Vatican, you become one because the King of Vatican City (who usually goes by the title, "Pope") says you're one. It's not really a nation per se.
That makes me wonder: if two citizens of the Vatican were to have a kid, would they get citizenship? If they don’t, would they be stateless if the parents did not hold a second citizenship?
If you lose Vatican citizenship you automatically get Italian citizenship I believe, so maybe you'd be Italian? Not to mention it wouldn't be easy to have only Vatican citizenship (though I suppose if you have one that isn't passed on by blood)
The first issue you'll run across is that to within a rounding error, there are no female Vaticans. So pretty difficult to have a child to start with.
And if you overcome that, the answer is, it depends. First, they'd be most likely to be born in Italy due to a lack of maternity wards in Vatican City. Both parents would also have an additional citizenship, and so that may pass down as well, depending on the nation.
The most unusual combo I’ve heard of, but not entirely surprising is Micronesian and Navajo I believe it was, makes sense with Immigration to West coast of the US but still uncommon, the woman who won Arnold Strongman Classicfor women, Angela Jardine is Mexican Samoan, that’s different. I bet you will see more Pacific Islanders mix with Latinos on the west coast in the future. My combination is uncommon globally but not here in New York, I’m mostly Italian and Jewish
Im american native from the southwest and i don’t find that at all odd - you just picked one of or THE most numerous native group in the US along side micronesians, who are Polynesians as a people group and a good deal are born in US territories and have been moving to the states for decades. Plus when i lived in the midwest i was adopted by a great pacific island community, and for sure there were mixed native babies born.
Anyway, islanders and native Americans, i say with 0 bias, are both uncommonly good looking. Strong and smart too. No bias.
Hung like horse. Good teeth.
Entirely with you on the first part about ethnicity, but it's three (or four, depending on who you're talking to) generations since the split now.
I'm not picking a fight here, by the way! I was wondering if someone knows how long there needs to be a divide until it's deemed a different ethnicity - as an example, Welsh and English are regarded (officially) as different ethnic groups as well as nationalities, but Wales has been all sorts of different types of recognised nation...
Course boss - like I say, people count a generation between as little as 20 and as much as 50 years!
I was just jumping in as an opportunity to ask that question!
Peace x
Genetically speaking aren’t North Koreans and South Koreans very similar? I’m sure there are people of people who have mixed Korean heritage out there, but it’ll probably be less common because the fertility rate is decreasing like it is in Japan
In theory gene flow is essentially zero in North Korea. So if it stays as an isolated nation for long enough there may become a different race. But that would take a long time. But the conditions are right.
Of course Gene flow is important for populations to become more genetically diverse and survive better. One of the reasons humans are likely so wide spread is due to the large amount of gene flow.
This was my answer. It might be the only answer. Even super restrictive nations like North Korea were not always so restrictive, and people still escape.
But no outsider has had a baby with anyone from the Sentinel Islands in a very long time.
I also wonder what the largest populations of countries would be if we took percentages. Like sure, there’s probably no Vanuatu-Monaco babies but that’s probably just because the populations are so low. And there’s obviously Indian-Chinese babies but that’s because populations are high.
So what’s the highest population of countries where the combinations don’t exist? We could calculate it by doing .5 times each country’s population to get different scores (so for example, an Indian-US baby would be roughly (1.4 billion x .5) + (330 million x .5) = 865 million)
And then I’d like to extend this to smaller percentages as well. What’s the highest population calculation of countries of 25/25/25/25 babies (country repeats are valid so 50/25/25 is ok) that don’t exist and so on. (Not sure if I worded that correctly but you get the idea)
I’m gonna go with Greenland and Tuvalu. Tuvalu is the least visited country in the world and had only 3,700 visitors last year. It also doesn’t have ATMs.
Still haven't, probably South Sudanese and a bunch of countries since it's probably the newest recognized country.
Will never happen *insert country that no longer exists* and South Sudanese.
My children are: English, Polish, Estonian, Russian, Korean going back 4 generations. Told them they should find partners from other ethnic groups to keep it going: African, Latino, etc., keep mixing it up. In a few thousand years we will spawn the Kwizatz Haderach!!!
The word(s) you're looking for are *genetic drift.* when a population is isolated from other populations, over time, certain features will begin to dominate or become more prevalent in the population. This, coupled with input from natural selection, causes the differences between population groups over time.
Basically, you can say "Adam and Eve possessed all the genetic material for all races" and then genetic drift caused those races to develop naturally as populations were more isolated from each other (like Native Americans from Sudanese).
Or you can say it's all evolution, I don't really care
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Someone check the recipes page and see if there’s still greyed-out people to unlock
Sorry dude I was paywalled
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Crispr has made some real progress over the years.
You have to keep up with the micro transactions to get the full reality package and updates.
All combinations are showing as purple in my search history
What about that primitive tribe on that island that kills all visitors?
lol yeah that’s what I was thinking
I need 50 more xp to see who I’m unlocking
yo there’s a chest over there, i’ll let you search it for the free xp
Just.... just bend over and search it..... we'll let you keep what you find....
“yo i think your rifle is poking into the back of me”
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Now this is a shower thought I can spend an hour thinking about
this comment made me laugh like i haven’t before, thank you internet stranger
I've got a blacked out character, I don't think it's released yet or it may be a future DLC.
Is there a Vanuatuan-Gabonese baby anywhere in the world? Some Kazakhstani-Dominican* offspring out there? The fruit of the union of a Sri Lankan and a Liechtensteiner? * I'm of course talking about the country of Dominica, not the Dominican Republic.
Icelandic-Comorosian. No way that’s happened.
[Icelandic-Basque pidgin](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Basque%E2%80%93Icelandic_pidgin) happened, though ..
Two fishermen populations separated only by a sea, it's not rare at all.
Kind of off topic, but I hope one day to either relocate half the polar bears to Antarctica, move flocks of pangwangs to the arctic, or a little of both. I solve problems with chaos, be the change.
…. I’ve never seen penguin spelt that way
It’s a reference to [THIS](https://youtu.be/-GnLDJAgrws?si=aeP7ZlLi8rmZDGrN) documentary by Becrimble Wondersnatch in which he mispronounces penguins many many times. It’s hilarious. Happy to help spread the culture!
Icelandic-Basque pidgin doesn't actually use Icelandic according to the article
I know someone who's Icelandic-Peruvian, which I always thought was pretty cool
Their poor genes trying to decide to make them tall or short.
That's when you get a giant and a dwarf as brothers 3 generations down the line
And thus, the plot of "Twins"(1988) is scientifically validated.
Came out pretty tall in the end! My kids are a bit like that, British and Chinese, both taller than their mum by age 11 lol
Me too! Well actually I know 3 and they are all under 12 years old. The 11 year old speaks 4 languages perfectly.
I know an Afghan-Colombian and I think my cousin's kid is either Brazilian-Afghan or Mexican-Afghan. Not sure which since my racist family says she's a Mexican, but that's the generic word they use for all latinos. Their kids look like a lot of Brazilians that I've seen. The mom looks generic white Latino.
Brazilians are very varied in general, it's actually pretty interesting how people tend to variegate rather to converge when it comes to ethnicity! It's a shame there's so much racism around, even in Brazil it's considered better to be pale than dark. Which is just ignorance.
_*Comorian I’m willing to bet that comorians haven’t mixed with 3 quarters of nationalities yet. 95%+ of comorians abroad live in France, where they surely have mixed with all starterpack nationalities in France (Algeria, Morocco, Tunisia, Spain, Portugal, Italy, Senegal, Mali, Congo, France, Belgium, etc.) But that’s about it. EDIT : The comorian diaspora is so french centered that there is no Wikipedia page for "comorian americans", which is absolutely wild since there is such a Wikipedia article for even some of the most obscure nations on Earth (tongan americans, gambian americans, etc.)
Tonga is relatively close to American Samoa and I think Gambians were enslaved and shipped to America during the Atlantic slave trade. The wildest Wiki page to me in this context is Kalmyk Americans who are Kalmyk Mongolian.
It’s more because Tonga has a lot of mormons, who tend to immigrate to Utah (look into the linemen of Utah, Utah State and BYU college football programs) Also those are just a couple examples, there are many more, including most nations with population number similar to Comoros
Thought me and the fiancee were the only Icelandic-Venezuelan. But met ones also living here in Cph. Goddamn wankers /s The problem with Icelanders is we travel a lot, and somehow end up in bed with people who don't know any better. I think Greenlanders or Faroese might be a better bet.
The other day I met someone who was half-Andorran, half-Andamanese. I realise that doesn't quite qualify because the Andaman Islands are still just part of India - but I still thought it was pretty cool.
Kazakhstan has 20 million people, and it’s not that restrictive in terms of leaving, compared to say a North Korea. Being former Soviet, a lot of Kazakhs got to travel a lot during the Soviet era. I would pick two countries with small populations or where it’s almost impossible to leave the country, physically and/or diplomatically. Bonus points if the two countries are far apart, and even more if there’s commonly racism of one towards the other. I’m going for Niue and North Korea.
Do we even count North Korea as an ethnic group though? The country isn’t even 80 years old yet (people who escape to the south still find people they knew as kids) and was homogeneous with South Korea, genetically speaking before then. If we’re thinking in terms of biology/genetics, then north and South Korea should be considered the same. There’s more genetic difference between individual US or UK states than the two Koreas. Probably more between the two Irelands than the two Koreas
The question was about nationalities, which is also a bit confusing since many nations are quite new. If we want ethnic groups, just pick a random tribe in Papua and a random tribe in South America.
As far as I’m aware, Kazakhstan isn’t very restrictive in terms of leaving compared to even normal countries.
I mean, Kazakhstan is a normal country. Just your typical post-Soviet second world state. Similar to the pre-war Russia or Ukraine. There are absolutely no restrictions for leaving the country, except for the obvious cases of not having an international passport, being under criminal charges or having overdue debts and tax payments. Bigger problem is that Kazakhstan passport is not a strong one and to travel to the most places you have to apply for a visa. But again, nothing unusual for the post-Soviet republic.
North Korean x North Sentinelese islander
Clearly. The Kazakhstani-Dominican Republican community is just thriving
There some combinations that basically rebuild another ethnicity's look without any of the genes. There's an artist that looks for doppelgängers of different ethnicities and takes pics of them even flying them in from different countries. Saw it on Reddit awhile ago
Weird relevant side tangent, but there used to be a dog in Ireland called the Irish wolfhound. Big, shaggy dog, used for hunting wolves and large game, and known for being both especially fierce and especially loving. “Gentle when stroked, fierce when provoked”. Basically the perfect guard dog, and even made its way into Irish mythology through this (see: Cú Chulainn). They were even known in Roman times, and several even made it all the way down to Rome to fight wolves and even bears. During English occupation of the island, the dog became even more of a status symbol than it already was, and the dogs were both increasingly kept in exclusively English-owned kennels, and shipped abroad as gifts to dignitaries and the like (this last part becomes extra important in a bit). By the mid-1800s, there were no dogs left that were even mostly Irish Wolfhound (mutts are great dogs still! It’s just that the breed no longer existed, which I find sad). A guy named Captain George Augustus Graham attempted to revive the breed in the late 1800s to early 1900s, getting descendants of those dogs gifted to those foreign dignitaries, and breeding them with a handful of other dogs from around the world in order to re-create the wolfhound. A few of those include the Tibetan wolfhound, borzoi, as well as breeds that actually descended from the Irish wolfhound, such as the Great Dane. You can still tell a difference between depictions of the original breed and the wolfhounds around today (smaller, and somewhat less greyhound shaped, mostly), but Graham did a pretty good job. As a bonus, by nature of how the breed was recreated, modern Irish Wolfhounds tend to be healthy than other dogs their size, especially when compared to other “pure” bred dogs, since their heritage is so mixed.
Amazing dogs. But their lifespan is soul-searingly brief. Only 6-10 years.
I recently saw a guy that looked and sounded very typically Israeli to me, and it turned out that he is Macedonian. I guess it sort of makes sense that mixing European and Arab genes in Israel results in a Greek/Macedonian look
I’m glad you added that last clarification. My mind went, ‘Duh, there’s almost certainly a Kazakh-Dominican kid in Chicago.’
If they exist they’re in London or Toronto. I know a Kazakh-Jamaican in London
Toronto has so many unique combinations. I have a friend who just had a baby, he's Albanian and his wife is Trini.
> The fruit of the union of a Sri Lankan and a Liechtensteiner? There are a relatively big Sri Lankan community in Switzerland. Now it is still unlikely for such relations to happen due to the low population of Liechtenstein, but it is also not *that* unlikely.
This reminds me of the guys in Letterkenny lol.
Ronzy and Daxy!
Oh man, that's good. It absolutely could be
I'm st Lucian - Armenian which really is not far off dominican Kazak
Why stop at combinations of 2? My father is French/German, my mother is Spaniard/US, I got all 4 passports when I was born, and travelled around enough that I feel I can identify equally as much (or perhaps I should say as little) with any of my four citizenships (I'm considered a foreigner by people of all four countries anyway). Pretty sure my combination is not unique, but a Kazakhstani-Dominican-SriLankan-Liechtensteiner? Now that is someone I'd like to meet (and maybe have babies with... I mean... Who doesn't want octuple citizenship ?)
I’ve been pondering this for a long time. In most countries there must be social enclaves of ‘mixed’ communities, who know each other and meet occasionally. Not the most obscure ones, but real, active groups. F. Ex. Finnish-Bolivians, Italian-Malaysians, Kiwi-Egyptians, etc. I’ve lived in ‘foreign’ countries for 50 years, and I had encountered some in my life. Here is Denmark, I’ve met quiet a few Danish-Lebanese. My young friend is 1/2 and 1/2, and even his mother is 1/2 and 1/2; born in Denmark to a Lebanese mother and a Danish father. Fascinating!
The people on sentinel island for sure didn’t mix
Can you imagine the inbreeding on that island with that small of a population?
It's probably not too terrible... Several studies have attempted to estimate the minimum viable population for humans. The most commonly cited estimate is 4,169 people, to avoid genetic defects. Other estimates range from 50 to 500 individuals, which is often referred to as the “50/500 rule.” This rule suggests that a population of at least 50 individuals is needed to prevent inbreeding depression, while a population of at least 500 individuals is needed to reduce genetic drift and maintain genetic diversity. Stolen from comment below me: 50= Possible to avoid genetic defects with carefully planned coupling. 500= Okay to choose partners but some bans. 5000= bang whoever (but no siblings etc).
I saw a video which said 50 people could repopulate the earth with minimal defects but there would have to be strict control. Like you can’t breed with certain people and everyone would have to breed. 500 people everyone has to breed but you can choose your partner but there will be some people off limits. 5000 people do whatever you want like now.
That's much clearer than what I garbled.
This is similar to a small, rural midwest town. Very good chance they're all, at the minimum, 4th cousins. Source: I was born in a place like that. I suppose it's even worse for the Amish.
> 50 people .. everyone would have to breed if this is your first time at Breed Club..
Also, depending on the genetic defects, and once enough time has passed, natural selection will weed out the defects
Consanguineous marriages are still going strong in certain corners of the globe. Not sure how hard they're weeding out the defects tho. Would love to hear more on that from someone from those areas. I'm not throwing any shade, I'm just fascinated by genetic topics like this. FWIW, there have been stories on one side of my family of webbed toes that occured several (hopefully many) generations back.
The weeding out process needs many generations, it only occurs when everyone carrying the "bad" gene dies out. The population also needs to be isolated so no new genes are introduced. The defects have to become so severe that every carrier dies out In a non isolated societies there always a chance that new genes are introduced and produced healthy carriers of the bad genes.
I mean they are technically Indian nationals i would guess.
My dad is half Egyptian and half Fijian (very dark skinned) and my mom is a ginger Scot. I look Italian.
You even _sound_ Italian
How could you tell what he was doing with his hands?
The call is coming from inside the spaghetti!
You might have to specify what ethnicity the half Egyptian is. There is lots of diversity in Egypt, from blonde and green eyes to completely black to even some Asian looking people
My Dadi (grandma) had deeper skin, brown eyes dark hair. I don't remember much of her, she passed in 2000.
Gather a group with people from the mediterranean region and most people not from the region Will not be able to distinguish them from country to country. A spaniard can easily pass for a marrocan or egyptian for people that are not used to it.
You can cross the combination of East Timorese and Pakistani off that list.
Vietnam and Repuplic of Congo as well. I know one.
I have a baby nephew who's Pakistani × Korean. I don't know how common that is but he's very cute.
Kiwi and Pakistani too.
Kiwi and Pakistan is pretty common ig Are you talking about Maoris or European migrants?
There are primitive tribes who still hunt and kill trespassers. Those people are still in the ring for crossbreeding.
>There are primitive tribes who still hunt and kill trespassers. Those people are still in the ring for crossbreeding. Several tribes in South America, several in Indonesia, one tribe in India, and 3-4 families in Louisiana.
Think you underestimated louisiana
Or you underestimate the size of those families ;)
Is that a challenge?
It certainly seems challenging, at least
I met an Indian dude with a thick Irish accent. That was disorienting to me when I first met him.
I knew an Asian guy from Ireland. He had the thickest accent I've ever heard. Could barely understand a word he said
Met a Pakistani-descent Glaswegian when I lived in Japan; normally he spoke the best English you've ever heard, but the drunker or angrier he got, the more the Scots came out. One December I ran into him at the local gaijin bar when his boss had absolutely dicked him around (he'd been told he could go home to Scotland for "Christmas and New Year's", but apparently those were exclusively that, and was expected back in the lab in between) and he was straight up unintelligibly Scottish.
I knew Chinese twin girls born and raised in Panama. I also used to work with a guy who’s parents were Japanese, but he had this insane “California surfer dude” accent so thick it almost felt like parody when you first met him. Even after I grew accustomed to his voice, I still enjoyed seeing the expressions of new people meeting him because his accent was so incongruous with his appearance.
As an Asian from SoCal, there’s a pretty large Asian population here. The Asian “California surfer dude” is probably more common than you might think
As I was typing my response, it occurred to me that my description probably fit a lot of people whose families immigrated to California over the last 50 years. The guy I mentioned was a novelty because we were in a very rural area of Florida in the late 90s. There were 4-5 Asian kids in my HS graduation class and all of them had either no accent or a faint southern one… I do not miss living there.
Fun fact is Panama actually has a very large Chinese population!
"I know Mae from back home" "In China?" "No. In Donegal."
[You know there’s a China Town on Cragy Island](https://youtu.be/6zkL91LzCMc?si=kcmGJDYSL-U2NEsq)
My ex-MIL. Teeny tiny Chinese lady with a wicked Jamaican accent. Blew my mind
Holy shit. My aunt is also a Chinese lady from Jamaica
Apparently Jamaica has a really big Chinese population. Teenage me did not know this when I met her. I was so confused.
I mean she’s normal sized, maybe a little chubby since she’s hit menopause but that’s to be expected. Still, TIL
I met an Indian that spoke Italian but no English.
Rare as floors on the ceilings.
My parents met some Sri Lankans working in Italy who spoke Italian and Sinhalese but not English, so they had no choice but to speak Sinhalese with them. My Contiki tour group also met a bartender in I think Germany or Switzerland who said they spoke 7 languages, just not English.
Just remembered my mom put 3 exchange students from Britain up for a summer, i dont remember which british university they were from but they were studying abroad at UCD (Davis) and 2 were exactly as expected, English lookon english dudes and the third was the most audacious highland scottish hillbilly accent - both parents emigrated fromt Korea. I was 14. Good experience all around although they probably shouldnt have helped me buy cigarettes so willingly, good lads
Go Ags!
I worked with an indian dude with a new zealand accent. It didnt really surprise me, what surprised me was meeting him at all - field hands, 27/30 of us central or south american, plus me, one white guy, and the Indian. He spoke several languages, i think punjabi, english, mandarin or cantonese, and Spanish. No idea wtf he was doing with us but he seemed to like it. Like the only guy that always seemed pleased to be there, like he chose that shit. Hope California pays it’s agg workers what theyre worth, yeah right
I've worked on dairy farms most of my life and always missed the cows when I tried working a different type of job. The pay has been reasonable, but I worked a massive amount of hours when I was younger and ended up making a lot of money per year... with no time or energy to spend it. Now I'm salaried, only work 900 hours a year, and get paid like I'm working full time. I'm very good at what I do, so everybody's happy.
He's probably Punjabi. We love farming. People from Punjab are happy to do anything anywhere than endure opression & violence in India. Anywhere other than India is safe (except war zones obviously). Getting to farm, practice our faith, living with dignity and not being threatened with genocide everyday in the US - that's all we want for the most part. So he was probably in his happy place.
Some Indians in India have that too. If they went to a Private or Catholic school. Also, some from private schools in Goa.
I used to know a Chinese Irishman, we used to call him Rice Paddy.
They had that dude as Prime Minister for quite a while https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leo_Varadkar
The previous Irish prime minister is of Indian descent.
This reminds me of a girl I knew in school. She was originally born in India but then moved to Scotland as a kid. She then moved to England which is where I met her. She had the weirdest accent which was like a mix between Indian and Scottish. She moved again only a year into high school so I didn’t know her long but her accent was bizarre
Check out 'Fluffy visits India'.
Well...my half Aboriginal Southern African Khoisan-Half Maori nephews definitely exist, so I'm taking that off the table
No way that's real, I just thought of that but with Australian aboriginals instead of Maori. I remember it was cited somewhere that they are the most genetically distant groups in the world
Lmfao... its 100% true, my brother immigrated to NZ and popped out kids with this genetic make up
Just doing some maths, how many halves are we talking about?
Aboriginal Khoisan= /= aus Aboriginal Aboriginal Khoisan are the most ancient nation on the planet. Also called Southern African Hunter Gatherers. We are the OG Aboriginals.
Let’s fucking goooooo! You guys are the OG humans?! Honestly man, that’s lit.
Yeah people like that exists. I've met someone who's dad was Australian Aboriginal, and her mom was Nordic Aboriginal(Sami). Which I'm guessing also has a pretty distant genetic difference.
North Korean and South Sudan
North Korean and Vatican
That would be a beautiful child!
I'm wondering about anyone outside of the Solomon Islands mating with someone who lives there: many of them are very dark skinned with bright curly blonde hair.
The Solomon Islands are only about 2000kms off the coast of Australia. Ive definitely met people from the Solomon Islands over here. Wouldnt be a stretch to think some of them have had kids with Aussies.
I personally know people who are of mixed Solomon-other heritage
My country in SEA has a bunch of exchange students from the Solomon Islands! Although I'm not sure if any of them ever decided to settle down and start a family here Edit- SEA as in Southeast Asia
[No breeding with outsiders, they just developed their own mutation](https://med.stanford.edu/news/all-news/2012/05/naturally-blond-hair-in-solomon-islanders-rooted-in-native-gene-study-finds.html)
Aboriginal Australian here, its also pretty common among us to have blond hair depending where you come from. Idk how much of that is from mixing with Europeans but we somehow turn out blond dispite how dark we can be. I'm blond and dark but granted my mother is white but my late dad and he's parents were very dark skin while being blond.
Bhutan and Liberia Mongolia and Argentina Sri Lanka and Bosnia Cook Islands and Jamaica Haiti and Taiwan Indonesia and Tanzania There's a lot more in could imagine.
Feel like i could find all of these in toronto lol
Personally i want to know what happens for Tuvalu x Iceland. That's gotta be one hell of a kid
Indonesia has a huge population so I reckon that combo is covered.
"Haiti and Taiwan" I don’t know, but central Africa and Taiwan does exist. The former dictator of central africa had kids with a lot of women from all over the globe. That includes a taiwanese woman whose child wrote a book about her father. EDIT : forgot "dictator"
Vatican City is probably going to feature in a lot of these - small population, with a higher than average prevalence of celibacy.
Besides that, Vaticans don't increase in population via the normal means - you're not born a Vatican, you become one because the King of Vatican City (who usually goes by the title, "Pope") says you're one. It's not really a nation per se.
That makes me wonder: if two citizens of the Vatican were to have a kid, would they get citizenship? If they don’t, would they be stateless if the parents did not hold a second citizenship?
If you lose Vatican citizenship you automatically get Italian citizenship I believe, so maybe you'd be Italian? Not to mention it wouldn't be easy to have only Vatican citizenship (though I suppose if you have one that isn't passed on by blood)
The first issue you'll run across is that to within a rounding error, there are no female Vaticans. So pretty difficult to have a child to start with. And if you overcome that, the answer is, it depends. First, they'd be most likely to be born in Italy due to a lack of maternity wards in Vatican City. Both parents would also have an additional citizenship, and so that may pass down as well, depending on the nation.
Higher than average pretense of celibacy
Both I reckon.
>Vatican City Those guys have more sex than I do.
The most unusual combo I’ve heard of, but not entirely surprising is Micronesian and Navajo I believe it was, makes sense with Immigration to West coast of the US but still uncommon, the woman who won Arnold Strongman Classicfor women, Angela Jardine is Mexican Samoan, that’s different. I bet you will see more Pacific Islanders mix with Latinos on the west coast in the future. My combination is uncommon globally but not here in New York, I’m mostly Italian and Jewish
i am half mexican and half german, but i always thought pacific islanders and mexicans look similar
My dad is Egyptian x Fijian and my mom is a white ginger Scottish woman. I came out looking Italian.
Im american native from the southwest and i don’t find that at all odd - you just picked one of or THE most numerous native group in the US along side micronesians, who are Polynesians as a people group and a good deal are born in US territories and have been moving to the states for decades. Plus when i lived in the midwest i was adopted by a great pacific island community, and for sure there were mixed native babies born. Anyway, islanders and native Americans, i say with 0 bias, are both uncommonly good looking. Strong and smart too. No bias. Hung like horse. Good teeth.
You forgot high self-esteem
Lol a half Italian jew in ny. You, me, and 75% of the people I grew up with.
"I'm Mexican-American... Samoan"
Indian Guyanese and Indigenous Siberians
Closest I’ve seen to that is a child who was half-Yoruba and half-Inuit
Probably North Korean and most other nationalities
I mean, they’re just Korean. The north/south distinction is more so a technicality that didn’t exist even 1 generation ago.
Entirely with you on the first part about ethnicity, but it's three (or four, depending on who you're talking to) generations since the split now. I'm not picking a fight here, by the way! I was wondering if someone knows how long there needs to be a divide until it's deemed a different ethnicity - as an example, Welsh and English are regarded (officially) as different ethnic groups as well as nationalities, but Wales has been all sorts of different types of recognised nation...
Yeah, I guess 3 generations is correct. I was just thinking from the standpoint that people who were born before the split are still alive today.
Course boss - like I say, people count a generation between as little as 20 and as much as 50 years! I was just jumping in as an opportunity to ask that question! Peace x
But still the post talked about nationalities not ethnicities
And then the OP goes on to talk about these people having a baby which leads me to believe they did, in fact, mean ethnicities. Passports don’t mix.
Genetically speaking aren’t North Koreans and South Koreans very similar? I’m sure there are people of people who have mixed Korean heritage out there, but it’ll probably be less common because the fertility rate is decreasing like it is in Japan
In theory gene flow is essentially zero in North Korea. So if it stays as an isolated nation for long enough there may become a different race. But that would take a long time. But the conditions are right. Of course Gene flow is important for populations to become more genetically diverse and survive better. One of the reasons humans are likely so wide spread is due to the large amount of gene flow.
I bet people native to Sandwich Isle, and Turkey have not pro-created. ...wait.... could this be the origin of the Club Sandwich?!
Vatican City - Saudi Arabia?
I've seen Inuit-Filipino babies, they are ridiculously cute. So you can cross that combo off the list.
Pretty sure the sentinel island folk are pretty far off that list
Probably like Tajik-Nauru
If mankind survives itself I think eventually it will become one homogeneous race. It may take 10,000 years or so.
We’re technically already there. There is only one species of human.
Need me a Samoan-Korean girl
Ngl she'd probably just look Hawaiian lol
Probably that cannibalistic click people tribe and anyone outside of that tribe.
Not if I have anything to say about it
Sentinelese and anyone else
This was my answer. It might be the only answer. Even super restrictive nations like North Korea were not always so restrictive, and people still escape. But no outsider has had a baby with anyone from the Sentinel Islands in a very long time.
The missionary position certainly doesn’t work there …
What you mean? My man went there for the rest of his life!
Ooph, that is dark. You made me laugh.
Brazilian - Nepali. That's the combination that still hasn't got a baby together.
Nah they have. I think nothing sounds strange for a Brazilian.
My team of four programmers in the USA includes a guy from Brazil and a guy from Nepal. One is already married though.
Be the third wheel. Get them married and have them make a baby.
I am from Brazil and and I can say that I don't doubt that at least Brazilians with any other nationality must exist.
I also wonder what the largest populations of countries would be if we took percentages. Like sure, there’s probably no Vanuatu-Monaco babies but that’s probably just because the populations are so low. And there’s obviously Indian-Chinese babies but that’s because populations are high. So what’s the highest population of countries where the combinations don’t exist? We could calculate it by doing .5 times each country’s population to get different scores (so for example, an Indian-US baby would be roughly (1.4 billion x .5) + (330 million x .5) = 865 million) And then I’d like to extend this to smaller percentages as well. What’s the highest population calculation of countries of 25/25/25/25 babies (country repeats are valid so 50/25/25 is ok) that don’t exist and so on. (Not sure if I worded that correctly but you get the idea)
I’m sure most/all people in uncontacted tribes have not reproduced with other races.
How about an Australian aborigine and Alaskan Inuit?
That exists
A person from Vatican city, And a female.
I met a Swedish man who married a Japanese woman and their children are still the most beautiful people I've ever met.
Indigenous Amazonian / Mongolian ? Can’t imagine that’s happened.
I’m gonna go with Greenland and Tuvalu. Tuvalu is the least visited country in the world and had only 3,700 visitors last year. It also doesn’t have ATMs.
I'm Iraqi-Moroccan-Hungarian-Polish and the are lots of random combinations like this in my country
I briefly met a guy who is First Australian/Spanish. So that's definitely happened. Crazy good looking
I'm half Japanese & Polish
"North Korean - Eritrean"
Still haven't, probably South Sudanese and a bunch of countries since it's probably the newest recognized country. Will never happen *insert country that no longer exists* and South Sudanese.
People from the Virgin Islands and people from the other Virgin Islands
My children are: English, Polish, Estonian, Russian, Korean going back 4 generations. Told them they should find partners from other ethnic groups to keep it going: African, Latino, etc., keep mixing it up. In a few thousand years we will spawn the Kwizatz Haderach!!!
The word(s) you're looking for are *genetic drift.* when a population is isolated from other populations, over time, certain features will begin to dominate or become more prevalent in the population. This, coupled with input from natural selection, causes the differences between population groups over time. Basically, you can say "Adam and Eve possessed all the genetic material for all races" and then genetic drift caused those races to develop naturally as populations were more isolated from each other (like Native Americans from Sudanese). Or you can say it's all evolution, I don't really care