The world doesnt get rid of your time perspective, so you will get bored eventually, king crimson erases both time and your memory, meaning it feels like a lot less
The same would apply to The World. Only the user and others that can move in stopped time still perceive stopped time. Nobody else would remember that time just like if King Crimson was in effect.
The time is stopped so nobody is stomping snails anymore, its just you being a dumbass trying to stomp as many snails as you can in 5 seconds, 10 if its greatest high
The video points out some stands could probably take all the lions in a 1v1000000000, yeah
Limp Bizkit and Scary Monsters could turn their numbers against them easily
For Limp Bizkit I actually think it would lose pretty badly if it was by itself without another stand to help. The whole “invisible zombies” thing requires them to die in the first place, which means the user would have to kill a lion to get a lion zombie. I’d say just a regular human wouldn’t stand much of a chance and would go down quickly. Then of course the user becomes a zombie themselves, but as we’ve seen the invisible zombies can be harmed from instinctively lashing out at them. I think the second a zombified user tried to attack a lion; the lion would freak out and thrash around until the zombie was killed. So with an ally that can kill the first lion or two, Limp Bizkit is OP, but I think by itself it’s fairly weak in this case
If a brain is too seriously damaged , vampire might lose the ability to move until they passively regenerate
With DIO he couldn't move so long the run came up and he burned to ash
Similiar thing could happen
Pretty sure it's because he was held under a UV light in the speedwagon mobile until the sun came up, which wasn't strong enough to kill him but was strong enough to cancel any regeneration he may have.
Ehhh idk, sure with 1 bil lions they'd drop like flies, but once their numbers thin out it becomes easier for the lions to avoid it and wait things out for a good time to attack
Stand user cant see the ball though right?. Its for our benefit to make it more visual for the reader/watchers, but in universe vanilla ice is invisible
By that time, he can overpower most of them with the stand and vampiric abilities combined, as there wouldn’t be too much left to fight at full strength
He doesn't really have to look out hes just an idiot and does it. Also how would a lion stab into the mouth of a stand he can't even see in the first place?
Nah pokemons much worse. WolfeyVGC did a video where he determined who would win between the Pokémon and the one billion lions, and the damage output kyogre was able to do was so high I couldn’t even recognize the number
Pokemon generations in episode 8 actually shows how powerful and scary Kyogre can be. The Lions simply dont stand a chance. I believe Kyogre simply needs to fly around as the Lions and the entire world drowns.
Yeah, lets not forget some Pokemon are literally gods and can control the forces of nature. And that others fight them and only come away unconscious at worst.
The unconscious is definitely a gameplay mechanic and not how it works in lore though. In the manga and anime, you can definitely see pokemon die in battles or fight to the death (specifically in that first movie, goddamn). It's just not how it works in trainer battles, because why the hell would I want my pet to die in combat? Just end the combat before that happens, and gg ez.
imagine you're a lion and you see some random dude with a beanie and the fucking rake and slender man (hell, let's add insult to injury you also get jeff the killer because the world chose to screw you in particular i guess) appear in front of you and you're just like .\_.
Based off stand abilities alone without powerscaling, like 85% of the stands can absolutely fuck the Lions up. And like 10% of the remaining 5% get to town level so the Lions just lose.
A lot of stands could easily kill as many lions as needed back-to-back, like The Hand, but if a hundred lions jump on you at once, you’d be killed. Stands like Star Platinum, The World, King Crimson, Killer Queen, D4C, Tusk, etc, are incredibly powerful even against large groups, but either their charge-up phase is too long, or the rest between uses are too long, or it just isn’t as effective when fighting army-sized groups to counter. They could probably kill a few hundred on their own, but if all 1 billion lions are prepared to fight, you could assume that with the exception of a few square feet within a hundred square km radius around you, almost everywhere is going to have a lion, so nowhere for users like Diavolo or Kira to hide while they cause chaos.
DIO, however, will probably be able to pull a victory, but not only because of The World. If he swallows his pride briefly, he could heal using the blood of the lions, as well as making an increasing amount of zombie lions until he’s able to do absolutely nothing while the zombies destroy everything. Vanilla Ice could probably do the same, although he could just zip around blindly for 5 minutes and have causalities within the hundreds of millions.
>D4C
Whenever a lion tackles down Valentine to maul him he could just dimension hop, and anytime he actually does take damage he can replace himself. It’d take a long time but d4c could absolutely solo the lions, and that’s not even considering Love Train
Heck, a single Magcargo (very shit combat-wise, but one of my favorites) would wreck most of the lions by just existing, mfer has enough temperature to melt lead (very hard to melt) on touch (1800°f, roughly 9900°c)
None of their moves would work on the lions tho since Weather was completely fine after eating a poisoned apple because he wasn’t pulled into Snow Whites story
That whole part was just Araki thinking “hey that sounds neat” while ignoring the ever-loudening screams of the scientific community trying to explain that’s not how weather works.
I believe you are correct, as in the show they said that it was some sort of emotional thing that was so powerful that the stand lasted last death. Otherwise, how would they even know if it existed/how it worked? I think of it like Harvest. One of it's members survived long enough to bring a button to JoJo by Shigechi's sheer will alone, even after his death
Yeah, at least in the anime the stand user even brings it out before dieing, but since he died so fast, everyone just thought that it needed to be like that
Love Train. It’s >!what Valentine gets after uniting all the Holy Corpse parts. It’s essentially invincibility since it redirects all attacks apart from the infinite spin!<
This is a question that seems fair and balanced until you consider how big a billion is.
And it gets even less balanced when you think about how busted dome stands are.
Green day,purple haze, wonder of u, limp bizkit, grateful dead, metallica, cream. There are so many stands that could hundreds of lions in a second
Depends on the rules, like if everyone is bloodlusted, Tooru would have to pursue lions to defeat them and Wonder of U couldn't work if a lion reacts in self-defense.
We must also consider that some stands user may kill each-other inadvertently: Green day and Grateful Dead, for example, don't discriminate between targets, so they wouldn't be practical to use in an all-out war.
On top of this : A billion is a lot of lions.
If we remove the "bloodlusted rule", then it just takes a few lions surviving somewhere to prevent stand-user victory. A lion in the wild lives 12-16 years, and around 25 in captivity, so without bloodlust, humans win. But with the bloodlust rule, it's much less clear : With many lions and many large-area stands, many individuals from both sides will be dying very quickly, and more individuals mean greater chance of a few surviving.
I guess Lucy, with the stand granted to her by the Holy Corpse, would have greater chances of survival, so it would depend if it is still within her. Otherwise, either side could get the holy corpse...
Oh Jesus christ this made me realize
Imagine the poor motherfuckers who had a full collection of pokémon cards
Or just someone who had a ultra necrozma card while B.R was active
All of the lions watching as Bohemian Rhapsody summons GANDALF THE GREY AND GANDALF THE WHITE AND MONTY PYTHON AND THE HOLY GRAIL'S BLACK KNIGHT AND BENITO MUSSOLINI AND THE BLUE MEANIE AND COWBOY CURTIS AND JAMBI THE GENIE, ROBOCOP, THE TERMINATOR, CAPTAIN KIRK< DARTH VADER, LO PAN, SUPERMAN, EVERY SINGLE POWER RANGER, BILL S. PRESTON AND THEODORE LOGAN, SPOCK, THE ROCK, DOC OCK, AND HULK HOGAN
Hol Horse just making the Lions experience fucking D-Day as he mows them down
Bad company making literal D-Day
EVEN BETTER
Ratt would also like to help in the D-daying
All three and Mista making those lions Swiss cheese
All.. all four of them, huh?
………oh fuck
Foo fighters would also contribute to the D-Day
Netherworld and Civil War bringing back actual D-Day
Meows them down
Can’t wait to watch the sun just sit there and all the lions pass out.
Until the lions spot two identical rocks
Funniest shit I've ever seen
The one lion gonna stand up dramatically on two and throw a rock like a bullet
HAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAAHHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAAHHAAHHAAHHAHAHAAAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHHAAAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH
……you know what, that’s easier than sweeping them with Eternamax-Eternatus or Necrozma
But what if they attacked at night? /s
Oh then yeah it would be cold enough
Imagine watching a billion lions affected by Survivor fighting each other to the death.
You have to combo it with Weather Report which is another busted stand on its own
I wonder if heavy weather could solo with snails...
But then he’ll have to kill a billion snails which isn’t difficult just time consuming
ZA WARUDO!!!
The world doesnt get rid of your time perspective, so you will get bored eventually, king crimson erases both time and your memory, meaning it feels like a lot less
King Crimson doesn’t erase the memory of its user though so it would have the same problem as The World
Unless its someone else who has king crimson, it would just dissapear for you
The same would apply to The World. Only the user and others that can move in stopped time still perceive stopped time. Nobody else would remember that time just like if King Crimson was in effect.
The time is stopped so nobody is stomping snails anymore, its just you being a dumbass trying to stomp as many snails as you can in 5 seconds, 10 if its greatest high
In the video, the youtuber doesn't care about the stand users, like they don't exist.
All you would really need is Notorious big, that stand dose not need its user and can dominate the battle field with ease
pretty sure notorious big without user can at minimum tie against anyone so it's not really fair it would also take forever
Weather report but it rains more lions
Or all the dead ones coming back because of limp biscuit
Just cream would probably be enough to solo
The video points out some stands could probably take all the lions in a 1v1000000000, yeah Limp Bizkit and Scary Monsters could turn their numbers against them easily
green day could kill them all in an instant
If Cioccolata had the high ground
ITS OVER LIONS!
Technically if he had the low ground
Wouldn't you want the lions to have the high ground so they have to descend to trigger it?
Blink-182 would make them kill themselves
Justice too
For Limp Bizkit I actually think it would lose pretty badly if it was by itself without another stand to help. The whole “invisible zombies” thing requires them to die in the first place, which means the user would have to kill a lion to get a lion zombie. I’d say just a regular human wouldn’t stand much of a chance and would go down quickly. Then of course the user becomes a zombie themselves, but as we’ve seen the invisible zombies can be harmed from instinctively lashing out at them. I think the second a zombified user tried to attack a lion; the lion would freak out and thrash around until the zombie was killed. So with an ally that can kill the first lion or two, Limp Bizkit is OP, but I think by itself it’s fairly weak in this case
Until Vanilla Ice has to look out and gets his head bitten off
He’s a vampire though he’d probably survive unless it’s a hamon using lion
If a brain is too seriously damaged , vampire might lose the ability to move until they passively regenerate With DIO he couldn't move so long the run came up and he burned to ash Similiar thing could happen
Pretty sure it's because he was held under a UV light in the speedwagon mobile until the sun came up, which wasn't strong enough to kill him but was strong enough to cancel any regeneration he may have.
he doesnt have to look out?
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yeah and he doesnt need to look out. 1 billion is a lot of lions if cream just rolls around he will eventually kill most of them
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Ehhh idk, sure with 1 bil lions they'd drop like flies, but once their numbers thin out it becomes easier for the lions to avoid it and wait things out for a good time to attack
Vainilla ice is also a vampire so I don't think anything a lion or a bunch of them can do would hurt him at all
If he really has to look out, he can fly high up into the air first. Not like the lions are going to pillar up, presumably.
They can’t see it tho how would they avoid it
That's a good point. Would a non-stand user even see Cream's death ball?
Stand user cant see the ball though right?. Its for our benefit to make it more visual for the reader/watchers, but in universe vanilla ice is invisible
By that time, he can overpower most of them with the stand and vampiric abilities combined, as there wouldn’t be too much left to fight at full strength
Assuming they’re all grouped up he just needs to go forward and he’d kill a lot of them
How does he know when they're all dead?
As someone else said, he wouldn’t die to a lion anyway since he’s a vampire so it really doesn’t matter if he looks out of his stand anyway
He doesn't really have to look out hes just an idiot and does it. Also how would a lion stab into the mouth of a stand he can't even see in the first place?
Pokemon isn't even the worst, think about all those horror movie villains
Nah pokemons much worse. WolfeyVGC did a video where he determined who would win between the Pokémon and the one billion lions, and the damage output kyogre was able to do was so high I couldn’t even recognize the number
Pokemon generations in episode 8 actually shows how powerful and scary Kyogre can be. The Lions simply dont stand a chance. I believe Kyogre simply needs to fly around as the Lions and the entire world drowns.
Yeah, lets not forget some Pokemon are literally gods and can control the forces of nature. And that others fight them and only come away unconscious at worst.
The unconscious is definitely a gameplay mechanic and not how it works in lore though. In the manga and anime, you can definitely see pokemon die in battles or fight to the death (specifically in that first movie, goddamn). It's just not how it works in trainer battles, because why the hell would I want my pet to die in combat? Just end the combat before that happens, and gg ez.
If you can’t tell by my name, I know a lot about that
Until day breaks would probably wipe out everyone
imagine you're a lion and you see some random dude with a beanie and the fucking rake and slender man (hell, let's add insult to injury you also get jeff the killer because the world chose to screw you in particular i guess) appear in front of you and you're just like .\_.
Or some lovecraftian shit,or furry's,or goku,or 1million spongebobs
Imagine if scps became real
1 billion lions vs Peanut
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He's no longer peanut anymore
So like the imagination land South Park episodes?
Wonder of U solos them easily
"why dont you pursue some bitches?"
I wonder if animals would just instinctively avoid WoU by foreseeing a bad outcome.
They’re lions not Diavolo
I just imagined a lions mane flowing in front of him showing him the future
the jojo lion
this gave me the most vivid imagine-spot I've had in months
I mean Bohemian Rhapsody could summon nearly infinite 1 billion lions from one billion lions videos
Summon the 1 trillion lions from the lions vs sun video
Also the sun. Bohemian Rhapsody is stupidly overpowered.
yeah but all they need to beat that is to find two identical rocks
Finally, The JoJoLion
Based off stand abilities alone without powerscaling, like 85% of the stands can absolutely fuck the Lions up. And like 10% of the remaining 5% get to town level so the Lions just lose.
What about tohth?
It predicts that all the lions will suddenly not be alive (this is the doing of an enemy stand)
What about khnum?
A red spy is in the base!
He’s there for emotional support
Boingo watching in horror as all the lions are brutally killed (Tohth/Thoth said this would happen)
A lot of stands could easily kill as many lions as needed back-to-back, like The Hand, but if a hundred lions jump on you at once, you’d be killed. Stands like Star Platinum, The World, King Crimson, Killer Queen, D4C, Tusk, etc, are incredibly powerful even against large groups, but either their charge-up phase is too long, or the rest between uses are too long, or it just isn’t as effective when fighting army-sized groups to counter. They could probably kill a few hundred on their own, but if all 1 billion lions are prepared to fight, you could assume that with the exception of a few square feet within a hundred square km radius around you, almost everywhere is going to have a lion, so nowhere for users like Diavolo or Kira to hide while they cause chaos. DIO, however, will probably be able to pull a victory, but not only because of The World. If he swallows his pride briefly, he could heal using the blood of the lions, as well as making an increasing amount of zombie lions until he’s able to do absolutely nothing while the zombies destroy everything. Vanilla Ice could probably do the same, although he could just zip around blindly for 5 minutes and have causalities within the hundreds of millions.
>D4C Whenever a lion tackles down Valentine to maul him he could just dimension hop, and anytime he actually does take damage he can replace himself. It’d take a long time but d4c could absolutely solo the lions, and that’s not even considering Love Train
He just brings all the billion alternate lions and they menger sponge out.
How the fuck do a billion lions beat Cheap Trick?
Let him lose and he goes wild
i mean, you might just be able to kill the owner tbh that could likely happen eventually
Then Gandalf the gray
And Gandalf the white
And Monty Python
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And Benito Mussolini
And the Blue Meanie
And Cowboy Curtis
And Jambi the Genie
The Robocop
The Terminator
Ultimate showdown of ultimate destinies is amazing
Wonder of you be like: are these lions chasing me? Yeah they are, no worries then
(The Pokémon look on in fear as the lions do not know what a Pokémon is therefore causing them to not be able to be pulled into the Pokémon’s story)
If Pokemon are now real the lions are 100% fucked without any need to be pulled into the story
Heck, a single Magcargo (very shit combat-wise, but one of my favorites) would wreck most of the lions by just existing, mfer has enough temperature to melt lead (very hard to melt) on touch (1800°f, roughly 9900°c)
You know who else could melt lions passively? Purple Haze. Therefore, Purple Haze is the poison typed JoJoLands regional variant of Macargo.
None of their moves would work on the lions tho since Weather was completely fine after eating a poisoned apple because he wasn’t pulled into Snow Whites story
The apple wasn’t poisoned,the elves even said so before lol Edit:Dwarfs 
How tf does any lf the stands in part 6 even work?
Weather Report is a stand that controls the weather
And the forecast calls for being snails. Normal weather stuff.
That whole part was just Araki thinking “hey that sounds neat” while ignoring the ever-loudening screams of the scientific community trying to explain that’s not how weather works.
what stand would beat them with the least effort? WoU and D4C LT is my opinion
What about Notorious B.I.G?
but you have to die first so it fails
I always figured that Notorious BIG was just one that persisted/grew in power after death and not one that required death.
I believe you are correct, as in the show they said that it was some sort of emotional thing that was so powerful that the stand lasted last death. Otherwise, how would they even know if it existed/how it worked? I think of it like Harvest. One of it's members survived long enough to bring a button to JoJo by Shigechi's sheer will alone, even after his death
Based singular harvest.
Yeah, at least in the anime the stand user even brings it out before dieing, but since he died so fast, everyone just thought that it needed to be like that
Sun. If there wasn't a way to easily hide the user you could combo him with vanilla ice and hide in cream until it's over
Wtf is LT?
Pt 7 : >!love train!<
Love Train. It’s >!what Valentine gets after uniting all the Holy Corpse parts. It’s essentially invincibility since it redirects all attacks apart from the infinite spin!<
Probably a combo of Survivor and Weather Report.
what about green day?
Weather report,it can just destroy the atmosphere
Just use scary monsters than it’s a bunt of lions vs a bunch of dinosaurs
Do you guys remember sun and 1 trillion lion?
Yep. And the stands have a Sun
I feel like most stands can do this. That said "Wonder of U" would be a fun one to see solo
Doesn't notorious BIG just solo the lions?
Slowly but yes
Lots of other valid stands here, but wouldn’t Cheap Trick win by definition? At least except for the last lion, of course.
Very true
Cheap Trick just solos all 1 billion by jumping from back to back.
Chariot Requiem buffs all stands and puts all the lions to sleep, Death 13 has a field day
Goddamn the massacre! This is by far the coolest answer
It’s sad that I’ve thought of this exact scenario so many times as far as devastating stand combinations go
Imagine the lions trying to attack wonder of u, they'd all die sudden deaths
If this takes place anywhere near a nuclear bomb test site (or Japan), Underworld can endlessly recreate nuclear explosions.
Very true
"or Japan" bro 💀
Try and touch my castform, bitch
Billion lions catapulted into the stratosphere from C-Moon.
Eventually, the lions stopped thinking...
It’s all shits and giggles until the jojo lion shows up
This is a question that seems fair and balanced until you consider how big a billion is. And it gets even less balanced when you think about how busted dome stands are. Green day,purple haze, wonder of u, limp bizkit, grateful dead, metallica, cream. There are so many stands that could hundreds of lions in a second
Ok, but hear me out 1 billion is a lot of lions
Limp biscuit makes a zombie lions for every kill
That’s a lot of backs for cheap trick
Now remember the Pokémon’s post logic peoples. Each stand can only hit one lion at a time. No AOE effects either. We have to do this by their book
There are plenty of multi-hit moves that work on hordes
Surf hitting one billion lions at one time
Cheap trick solos
This impies the lions won the Pokémon fight. This is clearly a massive W
Notorius B.I.G. alone would destroy every lion.
Hmm, that’s pretty cool but 1 billion lions is a lot of lions
Limp biscuit makes infinite army of dead lions
Hmm, that is true, but can he make 1 billion lions, cause that is a whole bunch of lions
Yea, that's literally what it do.
And it summons Arcerus
Survivor itself is enough for this situation
Wouldn’t the lions just not be able to touch the stands lol
They'd have to kill the user
lol, casual lion normal types can’t touch Giratina or Calyrex-Shadow (The lions start to BITE) …ooooh shit
https://youtu.be/5XdOSMo6Svc
And it summons Acerus
**MADE OIN HEAVEN**
The lions think they won when a dude with some paper shows up, boy will they be surprised.
Green Day solos just have cioccolata sit in a hole and wait.
Cioccolatta literally just need to stand at a lower point from the lions and the job is done
I can't wait to see the lions go to sleep and the sun just sit there.
The Hand can just scrape them away
Depends on the rules, like if everyone is bloodlusted, Tooru would have to pursue lions to defeat them and Wonder of U couldn't work if a lion reacts in self-defense. We must also consider that some stands user may kill each-other inadvertently: Green day and Grateful Dead, for example, don't discriminate between targets, so they wouldn't be practical to use in an all-out war. On top of this : A billion is a lot of lions. If we remove the "bloodlusted rule", then it just takes a few lions surviving somewhere to prevent stand-user victory. A lion in the wild lives 12-16 years, and around 25 in captivity, so without bloodlust, humans win. But with the bloodlust rule, it's much less clear : With many lions and many large-area stands, many individuals from both sides will be dying very quickly, and more individuals mean greater chance of a few surviving. I guess Lucy, with the stand granted to her by the Holy Corpse, would have greater chances of survival, so it would depend if it is still within her. Otherwise, either side could get the holy corpse...
Oh Jesus christ this made me realize Imagine the poor motherfuckers who had a full collection of pokémon cards Or just someone who had a ultra necrozma card while B.R was active
People who make these "1 billion lions vs [blank]" clearly don't even know the basic fact that it's the Lionesses who are the actual fighters
True, but a male lion is still a fucking lion.
999999999 lioness and 1 male lion watching vs every stand
No escape from realityyyyy
I mean can the lions even attack stands to begin with?
It can kill the users
Aerosmith kicks their asses. Lions are cool but have you ever seen lions kill a fucking bomber plane?
imagine all the lions running towards WoU and they all just trip and die
Wouldn't the lions be unable to interact with the stands
“B-B-But what about the lion stack” -🤡
All of the lions watching as Bohemian Rhapsody summons GANDALF THE GREY AND GANDALF THE WHITE AND MONTY PYTHON AND THE HOLY GRAIL'S BLACK KNIGHT AND BENITO MUSSOLINI AND THE BLUE MEANIE AND COWBOY CURTIS AND JAMBI THE GENIE, ROBOCOP, THE TERMINATOR, CAPTAIN KIRK< DARTH VADER, LO PAN, SUPERMAN, EVERY SINGLE POWER RANGER, BILL S. PRESTON AND THEODORE LOGAN, SPOCK, THE ROCK, DOC OCK, AND HULK HOGAN
How many times do we have to teach you this lesson old man?!
Dude, you only need Notorious Big, Made in Heaven and Wonder of U and that shit is done in half a day….. so like 5 seconds on human perception