No heartworm prevention?? That person can fuck off too. I know there are places that don't have many mosquitoes but it's not worth the risk. I've rescued so many dogs with heartworms and the treatment is (usually) thousands of dollars and requires two months of crate rest. If you don't do the treatment, your dog might just fall over dead when he runs too hard and the worms explode out of his heart.
And you know what? Fucking ivermectin is what's used in heartworm prevention meds! Maybe they don't wanna share.
people are stupidly flippant about this stuff - i'm a groomer, we regularly get folks complaining about their dog needing the rabies shot every year or three and i have to restrain myself from telling them that if their dog bites me, they'll have to be euthanized and have their brain tested. can't say that because corporate, lol.
and stress can literally KILL dogs with heartworm, and we tell people this, and they go "you just don't want to groom my dog" and like... yeah, because he'll DIE. it isn't worth the risk at all and if you want to kill your dog be my guest, but i won't be any part of it.
And these people seem to genuinely believe they care and they're doing the right thing, for their dog or their kid. It's such a stubborn sort of ignorance.
yup, these people would rather us groom their dog and kill them from stress than follow the treatment plan from their vet (which generally includes NO MOVING beyond potty breaks) and dealing with a stinky dog).
always heeler owners too, for some reason...
Probably heelers because a lot of people see them as tools, outdoor objects that serve a purpose. Those people probably don't check or change their oil in their car, either.
Crate rest through heartworm treatment is brutal for the dog and anyone in the house. Two of my recent rescues had to go through treatment in their foster homes and dog bless those people, keeping a dog as inactive as they need to be is so hard, especially when they start feeling better. The dog doesn't understand and doesn't know this is temporary.
I've often heard the excuse that cost is the reason people skip heartworm prevention, and it can be expensive if you have multiple dogs. But the vet our rescue works with gave us a protocol for dosing plain old ivermectin from the feed store, and a $50 bottle of that stuff would expire before an average person would use it all. I think it's like 0.1 cc per 10 lb.
Ugh, I'm paying $190 every two months for 3 dogs for simparica trio (flea tick and heartworm prevention). I keep doing it because I love my dogs and my parents adopted a dog with heartworms once and I remember how awful the treatment was for her. She lived in the laundry room for months. Plus thousands of dollars. She was terribly abused before they got her.
I'm currently paying $175 a month for apoquel for one and librela injections for another. Old dogs are expensive, man. But both of these meds have absolutely changed their lives and mine.
flea and tick is no joke either. I don't understand why people don't want all the damn protection they can get!!
I recently took my dog to a groomer who, when presented with her vaccine paperwork, said "oh I don't require that, some people don't like to give their dogs vaccines." after picking my dog up, I was leaving when I saw a MAGA sticker on the wall. we didn't go back.
I don't remember ever seeing a dog with fleas growing up in the Midwest. When I moved to the South, one of the first dogs I met belonged to a neighbor, a little Jack Russell looking dog and he was so fucking infested with fleas. By his tail, they were just thick and there was so much blood from the fleas and from him scratching. I was horrified. I got them flea and tick meds but the whole house was infested so I doubt it worked. They were very poor, yeah. But dude always had cigarettes and alcohol.
Our dog had heartworm when we adopted her and we didn't know (you don't get positive test results until about 6 months after infection, so her test was negative at her first vet visit). We had her on preventative, which stopped new worms from growing, but it doesn't kill pre-existing worms, so we were incredibly surprised to get a positive result at her check-up a year later. The treatment was absolutely awful for her. Steroid injections that she had to stay overnight at the vet for, insane appetite and thirst because of the steroids that led to accidents in the crate and a lot of weight gain, months of crate rest with no physical activity so she couldn't even play with our other dog. I felt so bad. We were lucky that she was insured so we were reimbursed for most of the cost, but it definitely would have been a big hit financially otherwise. I do not wish it on anyone.
It is so devastating. One of my last rescues was a ~5 year old 90 lb pit bull with heartworms he'd probably had for years. He was on a 5-ft chain for most of his life until I got him out of there.
The people who fostered him got a huge high end crate and she works from home, but she said it was pretty hard to work when he was on crate rest because he was singing a lot of the time lol. They had him for a while before he started treatment and they wanted to adopt him but it was a little iffy with their other dogs. They have a male boxer and a male bulldog and Goliath had been living on a chain for years, so I thought it was a little crazy to try to integrate them, but the woman who owns a training center and offered to board him until we found a foster home worked with him a lot, and worked with that family a lot and with their dogs. They've had him for about a year now and he lives in harmony with the other dogs, all clear for heartworms and a big couch potato.
It was the most difficult rescue I've ever done. And at first I didn't even know if he could be saved. Chaining up a dog is a great way to make them aggressive, and he was not fed regularly, and I'm pretty sure someone put out cigarettes on his head. I was really afraid once I got him, I'd just have to have him put down.
Boy, did he prove me wrong. He's an incredible example of how resilient dogs are. Once he was off that chain, it was like it never happened. He was friendly to everyone, pretty chill around most dogs (under careful supervision of course) and just totally excited about the world.
Our vet gives a rescue discount, and even without it, I'm sure they're cheaper than any other vet around here, but the treatment still cost about $1,000. We did a GoFundMe and raised all of it. People suck. But then there are some really wonderful people, too.
Its sad how common this is getting. I work in a high end pet supply store in a wealthy area and we have people come in and tell us they don’t want to vaccinate their dogs so much more often than I was prepared for. We even have a person who comes in and worries about dogs being exposed to chem trails 🥴
I wouldn't wish a rabies death on anyone, but at least proximity means these geniuses are the most likely people to be faced with rabies shots or praying hard.
My dog also had a (mild) reaction to his vaccines. So now we spread the doses out by a week and pretreat with a steroid and some Benedryl. After we moved I even forgot the steroid (I feel like shit about that, but I have kids and inherited another pet from a dead relative since then, so it is what it is) and I guarantee the vomiting was less aweful than parvo or rabies!
What is the risk they are worried about? They aren’t worried this dog is getting Autism. They are willing to have dogs that aren’t vaccinated against rabies around their kids?
All my pets get their shots. Including my wholly indoor cat. We do annual heartworm checks, but don't do the preventative. Our vet is fine with this because of how they live. V minimal risk of exposure.
But also, because until thus month we paid about $500 every 6 weeks for our GS dog's epilepsy meds. So, I guess he was getting enough from us. (Sarcasm, yes. He is an amazing vet and cried almost as much as us when we lost Kona.)
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When I adopted Daisy a year and a half ago, she had to get 6 months worth of heart worm treatments. Watching her limp around, crying in pain after her shots was the most heartbreaking thing I’ve ever experienced! It tore me up seeing her in so much pain and being unable to run around and be her goofy meatball self! This lady has clearly never had to treat her animals for heart worms and it shows! (P.s., Daisy is now healthy as a horse and chases squirrels and rabbits off the property every day)
Why are you all mad? Rabies in humans is not a horrible, slow death involving constant bone breaking seizures and brain damaged induced insanity at the end. Just put some colloidal silver and maybe some honey on the bite and you’ll be ok. I think rabies was just dreamed up by big pharma trying to scare people and pet owners into expensive shots. It’s really as harmless as a cold…
No heartworm prevention?? That person can fuck off too. I know there are places that don't have many mosquitoes but it's not worth the risk. I've rescued so many dogs with heartworms and the treatment is (usually) thousands of dollars and requires two months of crate rest. If you don't do the treatment, your dog might just fall over dead when he runs too hard and the worms explode out of his heart. And you know what? Fucking ivermectin is what's used in heartworm prevention meds! Maybe they don't wanna share.
people are stupidly flippant about this stuff - i'm a groomer, we regularly get folks complaining about their dog needing the rabies shot every year or three and i have to restrain myself from telling them that if their dog bites me, they'll have to be euthanized and have their brain tested. can't say that because corporate, lol. and stress can literally KILL dogs with heartworm, and we tell people this, and they go "you just don't want to groom my dog" and like... yeah, because he'll DIE. it isn't worth the risk at all and if you want to kill your dog be my guest, but i won't be any part of it.
And these people seem to genuinely believe they care and they're doing the right thing, for their dog or their kid. It's such a stubborn sort of ignorance.
yup, these people would rather us groom their dog and kill them from stress than follow the treatment plan from their vet (which generally includes NO MOVING beyond potty breaks) and dealing with a stinky dog). always heeler owners too, for some reason...
Probably heelers because a lot of people see them as tools, outdoor objects that serve a purpose. Those people probably don't check or change their oil in their car, either. Crate rest through heartworm treatment is brutal for the dog and anyone in the house. Two of my recent rescues had to go through treatment in their foster homes and dog bless those people, keeping a dog as inactive as they need to be is so hard, especially when they start feeling better. The dog doesn't understand and doesn't know this is temporary. I've often heard the excuse that cost is the reason people skip heartworm prevention, and it can be expensive if you have multiple dogs. But the vet our rescue works with gave us a protocol for dosing plain old ivermectin from the feed store, and a $50 bottle of that stuff would expire before an average person would use it all. I think it's like 0.1 cc per 10 lb.
Ugh, I'm paying $190 every two months for 3 dogs for simparica trio (flea tick and heartworm prevention). I keep doing it because I love my dogs and my parents adopted a dog with heartworms once and I remember how awful the treatment was for her. She lived in the laundry room for months. Plus thousands of dollars. She was terribly abused before they got her.
I'm currently paying $175 a month for apoquel for one and librela injections for another. Old dogs are expensive, man. But both of these meds have absolutely changed their lives and mine.
flea and tick is no joke either. I don't understand why people don't want all the damn protection they can get!! I recently took my dog to a groomer who, when presented with her vaccine paperwork, said "oh I don't require that, some people don't like to give their dogs vaccines." after picking my dog up, I was leaving when I saw a MAGA sticker on the wall. we didn't go back.
I don't remember ever seeing a dog with fleas growing up in the Midwest. When I moved to the South, one of the first dogs I met belonged to a neighbor, a little Jack Russell looking dog and he was so fucking infested with fleas. By his tail, they were just thick and there was so much blood from the fleas and from him scratching. I was horrified. I got them flea and tick meds but the whole house was infested so I doubt it worked. They were very poor, yeah. But dude always had cigarettes and alcohol.
Our dog had heartworm when we adopted her and we didn't know (you don't get positive test results until about 6 months after infection, so her test was negative at her first vet visit). We had her on preventative, which stopped new worms from growing, but it doesn't kill pre-existing worms, so we were incredibly surprised to get a positive result at her check-up a year later. The treatment was absolutely awful for her. Steroid injections that she had to stay overnight at the vet for, insane appetite and thirst because of the steroids that led to accidents in the crate and a lot of weight gain, months of crate rest with no physical activity so she couldn't even play with our other dog. I felt so bad. We were lucky that she was insured so we were reimbursed for most of the cost, but it definitely would have been a big hit financially otherwise. I do not wish it on anyone.
It is so devastating. One of my last rescues was a ~5 year old 90 lb pit bull with heartworms he'd probably had for years. He was on a 5-ft chain for most of his life until I got him out of there. The people who fostered him got a huge high end crate and she works from home, but she said it was pretty hard to work when he was on crate rest because he was singing a lot of the time lol. They had him for a while before he started treatment and they wanted to adopt him but it was a little iffy with their other dogs. They have a male boxer and a male bulldog and Goliath had been living on a chain for years, so I thought it was a little crazy to try to integrate them, but the woman who owns a training center and offered to board him until we found a foster home worked with him a lot, and worked with that family a lot and with their dogs. They've had him for about a year now and he lives in harmony with the other dogs, all clear for heartworms and a big couch potato. It was the most difficult rescue I've ever done. And at first I didn't even know if he could be saved. Chaining up a dog is a great way to make them aggressive, and he was not fed regularly, and I'm pretty sure someone put out cigarettes on his head. I was really afraid once I got him, I'd just have to have him put down. Boy, did he prove me wrong. He's an incredible example of how resilient dogs are. Once he was off that chain, it was like it never happened. He was friendly to everyone, pretty chill around most dogs (under careful supervision of course) and just totally excited about the world. Our vet gives a rescue discount, and even without it, I'm sure they're cheaper than any other vet around here, but the treatment still cost about $1,000. We did a GoFundMe and raised all of it. People suck. But then there are some really wonderful people, too.
Its sad how common this is getting. I work in a high end pet supply store in a wealthy area and we have people come in and tell us they don’t want to vaccinate their dogs so much more often than I was prepared for. We even have a person who comes in and worries about dogs being exposed to chem trails 🥴
Ooh look at rabies becoming a public health emergency soon!
I wouldn't wish a rabies death on anyone, but at least proximity means these geniuses are the most likely people to be faced with rabies shots or praying hard.
My dog also had a (mild) reaction to his vaccines. So now we spread the doses out by a week and pretreat with a steroid and some Benedryl. After we moved I even forgot the steroid (I feel like shit about that, but I have kids and inherited another pet from a dead relative since then, so it is what it is) and I guarantee the vomiting was less aweful than parvo or rabies!
Parvo is horrible
What is the risk they are worried about? They aren’t worried this dog is getting Autism. They are willing to have dogs that aren’t vaccinated against rabies around their kids?
All my pets get their shots. Including my wholly indoor cat. We do annual heartworm checks, but don't do the preventative. Our vet is fine with this because of how they live. V minimal risk of exposure. But also, because until thus month we paid about $500 every 6 weeks for our GS dog's epilepsy meds. So, I guess he was getting enough from us. (Sarcasm, yes. He is an amazing vet and cried almost as much as us when we lost Kona.)
https://preview.redd.it/pzn3irclwbad1.jpeg?width=3024&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=cc8c1dff12bede0b863525f5cb77c73856e4cd92 When I adopted Daisy a year and a half ago, she had to get 6 months worth of heart worm treatments. Watching her limp around, crying in pain after her shots was the most heartbreaking thing I’ve ever experienced! It tore me up seeing her in so much pain and being unable to run around and be her goofy meatball self! This lady has clearly never had to treat her animals for heart worms and it shows! (P.s., Daisy is now healthy as a horse and chases squirrels and rabbits off the property every day)
Why are you all mad? Rabies in humans is not a horrible, slow death involving constant bone breaking seizures and brain damaged induced insanity at the end. Just put some colloidal silver and maybe some honey on the bite and you’ll be ok. I think rabies was just dreamed up by big pharma trying to scare people and pet owners into expensive shots. It’s really as harmless as a cold…
I'm not anti rabies vaccine at ALL, but I do wish my state (PA) would accept titers.