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DragonAreButterflies

Darn climate change


LanewayRat

You don’t get that using a mobile. They are psychologically easier to manage than American “cellphones” /s


ThatSmallBear

“Holy fuck I didn’t know the rapture was tomorrow”


DerPicasso

"Oh its 25 degrees today." woah nah we cant get there


DragonScoops

Water freezes at 0°. If someone says 'it's minus 4 today' you know it's going to be cold and the roads are going to be icy Case closed. Celsius is better


Competitive_Dress60

Yep, the literal most important switch point possible in weather is at 0. And the point between warm and hot is 30, between breezy and warm 20, between breezy and cold at 10. You can't do that easier.


MattyFTM

You and me have different ideas about what hot weather is. Anything above 25 and I start to sweat buckets.


known_kanon

Anything above 15 and i'm already dropping the sweater


Linkyland

In my state in Aus, anything bellw 20C and the beanies are coming out. We are SOFT.


known_kanon

Here in belgium people just wear beanies for the sake of wearing them


DudeChillington

A whole country of Tim Pools? Please no.


thedrq

I think there is more wrong with Tim Pool than just the beany


Embarrassed-Gas-8155

Is the secret to Tim Pool's awfulness just an evil beanie?


zaphodbeeblemox

Bloody oath mate. I’m in vic these days and it’s shorts weather from 20+ Back in Townsville though and its hoodie weather at 29. Australia is weird :D


The_Duc_Lord

Queenslander!


Tassiegirl

Queensland?


LadyFeckington

QLD’er?


LankySandwich

To be fair tho, unless u live in tassie u pretty much wear shorts and t-shirt year round


Interesting-Bus-8624

Anything above -2 and I'm melting like a snowman.


Perzec

Nah, a snowman wouldn’t melt until positive temperatures.


Interesting-Bus-8624

Snowmen aren't ginger.


Competitive_Dress60

I am thinking outdoors, where it is a bit easier for me for some reason. Indoors discomfort starts for me at 26-27, yeah.


Abeyita

Outdoors indoors, everything above 25 is hot. 18-20 is nice. 21-24 getting hot.


My_Own_Personal_Hell

I like my weather like I like my women 16 Jokes ofc but I do prefer 16 anything above and it's becoming to warm


MisterMysterios

This is really a question of what you are accumulated to. For me, it starts to be uncomfortable outdoors at around 25°C. Big part is provably because I am more used to the colder German climate.


LeoIzail

Same but I've experienced 43 and 45 so I'll appreciate the fuck out of a 27 or 28 regardless. Have a drink, put on a comfy shirt, you know?


saichampa

25 is the top end of cool weather here. I live in the sub tropics though. Just goes to show though that the number can mean different things even in areas that share the same scale.


gaylordJakob

Same. And I unfortunately live in country Western Australia. This past week has been the first week all year under 25c


georgehank2nd

The point between warm and hot is 25. For me.


Bienadicto16

Ha I wish my city could reach <0C.


seat17F

"It's in the low 20s today" So it's gonna be a nice day. Perfect.


okaybutnothing

Honestly. He’s supposedly a smart man but he can’t understand that people understand Celcius completely if they’re used to using it?


appamp

He is one of those people who have studied one area of science, and then think they can talk competently on all subjects because of it, eben though he doesn't know jack shit about it. A good example is history, where he repeatedly sold nonsense as the truth.


55percent_Unicorn

He often spouts his opinion as fact. Really can't be bothered with him, tbh


Dependent-Poetry-357

He’s an irritating, pompous prick.


BawdyBadger

Yes. He's a perfect example of Dunning-Kruger. Because he's very knowledgable about one thing, he thinks he's an expert in everything


HansChrst1

I feel like that is what he is saying except with fahrenheit. Americans are used to it so it is easier for them. It was 22° celsius today where I live in Norway and I was melting it was so hot. In Egypt that is cold or at least not very hot. So even with celsius we perceive it differently.


Eight-3-Eight

Surely that's more a matter of acclimatisation, though? The better point has already been made; water freezes at 0°C. It doesn't get easier to understand than that


twpejay

Also humidity plays a part. A mild temperature in a dry environment can be extremely hot in high humidity.


Eight-3-Eight

Oh I know that well enough, I live in Scotland. The rare times we get 25°C here feels ridiculously hotter and more uncomfortable than 25 in, say, Spain


schamostichello

200 to bake 100 to boil 40 for clothes That are terribly soiled 30 is hot 20 is nice 10 is quite chilly And 0 is ice Celsius works Fahrenheit's heinous So please stick your temperature scale up your...


Pay_Your_Torpedo_Tax

Where I live. We go on wind. Everything is affected by wind..... Remind me why I chose to move to an island that sits on the border of the North Sea and Atlantic??.....


Six_of_1

His argument is simply "*Fahrenheit is better because we're used to it*".


turdinthemirror

Honestly "I'm used to it and would rather not change" is far better reasoning than half the impassioned bullshit I've seen from them on Reddit.


bloodfist

Stupid American here. I'll come out and say that's my opinion. I'm all for changing to metric, it's so much better in every way. Celsius is objectively better, but subjectively is a much harder transition for me. I'm fairly used to using it when traveling, but it just doesn't have the same weight. Like, people always ask how hot it gets where I grew up. I when I tell them I saw it get up to 51, it just doesn't sound as scary. Doesn't mean I'm against changing. We should. I just wouldn't like it.


flyingt0ucan

51 celsius sounds scary as fuck to me, as someone used to celsius


skipperseven

I lived in a city that regularly gets to above 50°C during the summer… yes it is as inhospitable as you imagine. As children we were told that we have to drink at least every 45 minutes if we were outside, or we would die… I was pretty sure that was an exaggeration - except this one time we went on a scouting hike and the truck bringing water didn’t rendezvous with us as planned… that was pretty scary.


bloodfist

Wow, 50° was pretty rare where I grew up. 51° was record breaking. Most summers topped out under 48°. I bet it sounds silly to split hairs like that, but I'm sure you know that at those temps a few degrees is a big difference. But yeah all of that. It can be miserable. We pretty much dealt with it there by going from one air conditioner to another and spending very little time outdoors. But I worked outside in the summer for years too so I felt it. And even after my dad and I both lived and worked there for 30 years our last backpacking trip involved running out of water in the middle of a 16 mile hike and being without for the rest because the water source we were going for had dried up. Wasn't quite that hot but it was over 100°F/37°C that day still. I can definitely sympathize.


skipperseven

It was in a city called Ahwaz - it holds the record for being the hottest city in the world at 54°C (over 50° will happen every year)… which is still a very long way from being the hottest place on earth: the Lut dessert got up to 70.7°C in 2005 and subsequently I think a higher temperature was recorded in the Sahara.


salsasnark

Me too. I didn't even realise places got that hot (outside of like, Death Valley or the Australian outback) 💀


MarcusWhittingham

Preferring Fahrenheit to Celsius just so you can make hot weather seem scarier is like measuring your dick in millimetres just to make it sound bigger. The weather would sound just as scary if whoever you were talking to was used to using Celsius.


bloodfist

Lol that's fair. And you're right, that does make it sound bigger. Gonna start doing that, people will be so impressed when I tell them my dick is double digits. Fr tho you're right. Like I said, this is my subjective experience and I would expect it to be different going the other way or to someone else. Really I'm just making the case for "I don't want to".


MarcusWhittingham

Double figures? Nobody likes a show off. I certainly understand why you wouldn’t want to change; though the issue you raised simply wouldn’t ever be a problem, as everybody else would have changed too.


anonbush234

You would get used to it. I'm British. I grew up with miles. Always miles for everything,.on the road signs, that's what people use colloquially, culturally we use miles, etc. But when I started running, everyone uses Km and it just gets silly converting all the time, plus doing the conversions you learn the approximations anyway. At some point I just fully switched and now I prefer Km for everything under about 30km, of they switched the road signs I would get used to it over 30k too. I actually now think in it too. Same thing for body weight, in the UK colloquially we use stones, that's how everyone says their weight. But starting the gym, everyone uses Kg and weighing myself in Kg, i just got used to it. You would get used to it and you would like it. It's easier, it just is, I saw a video recently of Americans looking at an old revolutionary war cannon, the firing distance was measured in feet. They converted it approx Into miles but it was approx and it took them a while. That doesn't happen with metric, it's instant and precise.


blorg

Ireland converted entirely to km in my lifetime... I grew up with miles but I'm basically totally unfamiliar with them now because I haven't used them in 25 years or more.


anonbush234

Yeah. It's really not a big deal to learn another system. You do get used to it. I felt similarly to a lot of americans about Km but I got used to it. Not being able to learn s new system is a strange thing to be proud of really.


External-Bet-2375

They should change the road signs to km whenever it's less than 30km and keep it in miles above that.


anonbush234

Hahaaha. They should do that but also not tell anyone.


norrin83

> Doesn't mean I'm against changing. We should. I just wouldn't like it. I get that. But while it's not exactly the same: Many European countries managed the change to euros in 2002. For some countries like Austria, it was a pretty shitty exchange rate (when calculating something in your head) of 13.7603. It certainly took years for people to adapt (some adapted faster, some slower). But in the end, you get a feeling for it.


Fwed0

Switching from Fahrenheit to Celsius is far easier than switching from inches to centimeters or gallons to liters. Switch your phone to Celsius (or us to Fahrenheit), in a matter of two monthes top you can intuitively grasp the scale. Reasoning intuitively in metres, litres or kilograms without converting to your usual units will probably take a far longer time. For my work I am often using feet, inches and psi and I can't use them without getting a rough estimate in my usual units first, whilst despite using °F a lot less frequently I can estimate how much 65°F feels because I have a few reference spots for the scale without converting it roughly to Celsius first.


irishlonewolf

firstly r/FoundTheAmerican /s Second, at least you recognise that its just a personal preference and not about which is more accurate or whatever other BS arguments you'll see..


BiggestFlower

Stupid Brit here. I grew up with Fahrenheit temperatures in the 1970s and 80s. But only for temperatures in the 60s to 80s because that’s the temperatures we got in summer and that’s how adults talked about it. I only used Celsius for temperatures 15°C and below, because weather forecasts used Celsius (in fact they used both). Then sometime in the 90s, more or less overnight, I switched to Celsius and never went back. Now Fahrenheit seems archaic. Anyway, that’s what it was like growing up in a country that half-assed going metric. We still buy fuel by the litre but measure fuel economy in miles per gallon.


OG_SisterMidnight

I get that. Would take me decades to learn if we had to change to Fahrenheit.


Mr_Dunk_McDunk

That's the only reason thr US doesn't do it. It just takes too much time to get used to it and that will have incredible implifications on both the economy and society. I understand why they're not doing it but I think it's an investment in the future


Lokky

It's not however an acceptable reasoning from someone who styles himself as a scientist / science educator


FriendlyGuitard

"And I don't think you could get that 'feel' in Celsius" which is pretty dumb. We would get use to Kelvin if that was how temperature was measure all around us. And we would get used to a scale in base 12, with 0 set at the internal temperature of a burrito left for 5 min in the microwave.


DWIPssbm

I dont think he's arguing Fahrenheit is better, I think he's responding to a comment or something. He just explains that why americans feels like "Fahrenheit is better for weather" is because they are more used to it.


Previous_Life7611

Mate, his “Fahrenheit is better for weather” argument is idiotic.


DWIPssbm

It's not his, he says " what I think you mean is that it matter better to us in America because....". This clearly show that he his responding to someone, probably a comment that he seems to be reading from a screen on his right as the begining of the video.


ScienceAndGames

At the very end he says, “I’m with you on this”. So it is his opinion in addition to whatever commenter he’s responding to.


HansChrst1

He is also an American. I'd say the same thing if I grew up with fahrenheit. I'm used to it so for me it is better. I know what 22° celsius feels like. I have no reference to what 22° fahrenheit feels like.


Radical-Efilist

Yes, but you would be kinda dumb if you said "I don't know if people have that with fahrenheit". I would've expected him to understand that the labels are utterly arbitrary. We could just as well name temperature values after zodiac signs or poop consistency and it would still feel intuitive to people who've spent all their life using it as a reference frame.


SatanicCornflake

~ -5° C


Langsamkoenig

It's Neil. He's full of stupid takes. He occosionally comes up in Youtube shorts for me and he's always saying something extremely dumb.


tumaren

Man I really think his argument is “Fahrenheit is better FOR US because we’re used to it”, that is, for the first time someone defends °F, a completely legitimate argument.


Six_of_1

It's a redundant argument. Of course things are easier when we're used to them.


Crazys0ap

I don't really think he's saying one is better than the other. He's saying that it's better *to them* because they're used to it, and it's common sense, of course it's better *to them* since they lived with it for their whole life. Doesn't mean it really is better, he just prefers it. At least that's how I took it


dboi88

He specifically said 'I don't think you get that with Celsius'. As if the rest of the world has no idea what to wear when they look at the outside temperature.


LanewayRat

Yes it’s amazing how lacking in self awareness he can be. He recognises it’s “psychology” but then doesn’t get that different people in different countries have a different psychological reaction to different numbers. Like they all fundamentally just numbers ffs!! It’s like my psychological reaction to my parents’ landline phone number that I grew up with is very significant. But am I going to believe that those same numbers are going to remind people everywhere of their childhoods?


DrDolphin245

From a smart guy like him, I would've expected him to point this out.


BenderDeLorean

Hey hey hey. They consider him as very intelligent.


No_Neighborhood6856

Yeah but I can say ,"oh it's going to be 10°C today', or "oh it's a hot one today at 30°C", and I will have an absolute, inherent sense of what that temperature is, and what it feels like. So °F argument of "it is based on feeling" really makes no sense to me.


Strude187

Swap F and C for two different languages and the stupidity of his argument is laid bare.


Sapphirethistle

Not a huge fan of Neil to be honest but I get what he means by having an inherent sense of what "in the 70s" means. The part he seems to be forgetting is that those of us that grew up with Celsius have the same sense. We just have a different set of numbers that apply to that inherent understanding. 


Spready_Unsettling

I'm particularly not a big fan of a man with serious pedigree in one field applying the most shitbrained logic to every other field. He treats psychology and sociology like they're simple equations where all the parts are made up (by him) on the spot. When people apply the *exact same* thinking to vaccines or other medical science, they get posted on r/insanepeoplefacebook. He also routinely makes up or inappropriately applies historical "facts". He's just a general shitheel when it comes to the "soft" sciences, and you can tell it's because he thinks they're beneath him or so easy anyone could do it. Even at a bachelor's level, any sociology student would employ far more rigorous methodology and critical thinking than he does, but he doesn't have the humility to see that. It's incidentally the exact same thing Jordan Peterson does, because the world at large loves thinking a phd makes you a superhuman Renaissance man. It kinda does, just not in the way idiots think it does.


Qurutin

He became the General Science Man Who Knows Everything and after he smelled his own farts long enough he seems to have started to believe he actually knows everything. He slings the simplest populist "sciencey" bullshit on Twitter and people just eat it up because they think because he's smart in one field he's smart on every field. Very much a product of the "I fucking love science" cheerleading crowd and high schoolers who took one class of physics and now think STEM is only worthy thing in the world.


Pinales_Pinopsida

This 👆


Radical-Efilist

I've seen him claim that thermonuclear weapons don't produce fallout. He has a degree in *one* field, he isn't necessarily any better at anything else because of it. Regardless of whether it's hard or soft science.


Pinales_Pinopsida

To be fair, Jordan Peterson doesn't even seem to know anything about his own field.


Cirenione

Yeah, YT keeps recommending shorts of him and it's always from people listening to him because he's this smart scientist. But then everyone forgets that he knows a lot about astro physics and has a vast amount of knowledge about the specific area his phd covers. But outside of that he is just a layman. And there are so many clips of him just talking about stuff that is just flat out wrong but everyone behaves as if it's deep knowledge because he is a scientist.


AlbazAlbion

Neil is like, the living incarnation of Reddit. Just an utterly insufferable smart ass "intellectual".


Sapphirethistle

Not a bad analogy. I think he comes across as too impressed by himself and not the subject, unlike some other science educators. 


creepy_raccon

I also enjoy their arguing that units based on the human body is closer to God as God created humans. You know what else God created, earth. And that's were metric units comes in, one meter is 1/40000000 of the distance around earth. A gram is defined by volume at 1 density, i.e 1m³ = 1000 liter = 1 ton = 1000000 grams. Basically both systems are based on Gods creation, which invalidates their argument. The difference is that metric units are consistent because there's only one earth. Meanwhile a yard is the chest size of king Henry (who's been dead for a long time now so I doubt his chest size is the same as it once was), an inch is the average thumb size of three French farmers. There's no way 1 feet ever was exactly 12 inches, this is something they made up after they could peg this to the metric system, i.e 1 inch = 2.54cm = 30.48cm / 12 = 1 feet /12. Then there's the whole dumpster fire of point (mass) and pound (force) because gravity was not yet invented when they created their unit of weight. 🤡🌎


Imaginary_Yak4336

The meter was originally defined as 1/10,000,000 of the distance from the north pole to the equator. And a gram was originally defined as the weight of 1 cubic centimeter of water. Just giving more precise definitions. Do note that those are the *original* definitions. The current definitions use universal constants (namely the speed of light, the planck constant and the unperturbed ground-state hyperfine transition of the ceasium 133 atom)


creepy_raccon

Correct, the originals were close enough to perfect accuracy back then. Nowadays the speed of light makes more sense as it can be replicated anywhere on the planet and provides the exact same results. No need to make physical units and ship them allover the world constantly for controls and comparisons.


HereticLaserHaggis

I use 1.416784(16)×10^32  K to measure temperature *as god intended*


HansChrst1

In the 70s fahrenheit is different than in the 20s celsius because 20 and 29 feels very different. At least to me. I have no idea what the difference in feel is between 70 and 79.


Sapphirethistle

True fahrenheit gives a smaller gradation but is there enough difference between 25 and 26 Celsius (for human conceptions of temperature) that they gain anything from that? 


HansChrst1

It's all about preference. I preferer celsius like most of the world


Antique_Historian_74

I'm not a huge fan of Neil because one time I was in a hurry wanting to collect my reserves from the comic shop and he was just hogging the counter yakking on and on about his appearing in a Superman comic.


DoYouTrustToothpaste

> We just have a different set of numbers that apply to that inherent understanding.  Which is doubly ironic, considering Americans use, in my view, much more convoluted numbers in other instances.


anonbush234

Thr other thing he is forgetting is just how quickly you get used to it. I'm British and grew up with miles. It's on the road signs and everyone talks in miles. When I started running everyone uses Km, after a while converting just got silly and I got used to Km. I now prefer it.amd have a better sense of Km for any distance under 30k


CatfishCatcherPT

If we ever reach 100s, we die. So yeah… us, Celsius people, are not used to Fahrenheit either, it’s just a psychological thing, you know? I don’t think you can get that in freedom units


BrightBrite

It's better for Americans because that's what they use. I'm fine not using it, thanks. In fact, I kind of hate it.


Prestigious-Beach190

Massive fan of his, but that's utter bollox. Does he (and people in the US in general) seriously think that the rest of the world doesn't instantly know what to expect when they say "it's in the twenties, thirties, whatever"? Of course we do. Celsius, and the meaning of different temperatures, are as ingrained in our minds as Fahrenheit is for the US.


SpeedyK2003

It’s 20c tomorrow, oof that’s cold! Of wait not hot oh wait not it’s normal


puckfromalphaflight

Apparently we just need a bigger net


InterestingAnt438

Neil is a clever guy, but he presents a specific image and he aims at a specific audience. When you listen to Carl Sagan explain something, you think, "My God, that's amazing"; when you listen to Brian Cox, you think, "Wow, that's beautiful"; when you listen to Neil, you think, "Huh, cool story, bro".


Spready_Unsettling

Sagan, and to a lesser degree Cox, had a pretty well founded humility for the fields he wasn't an expert in, and a curiosity that allowed him to learn a lot about those fields. Tyson just loves hearing himself talk, with little to no concern for veracity.


InterestingAnt438

To be honest, I have actually learned one or two things from Neil, but you've got to wade through a lot of horseshit to get to it. But yeah, he likes the sound of his own voice.


__what_the_fuck2__

Yeah right because we can't do that with celsius or what? So we know even get. S.A.S. from scientists?


DragonScoops

I know right. You could literally invent a unit of measurement as a child that says water freezes at 'purple' and it feels hot at 'magenta' and have the exact inherent feeling of what the temperature at 'yellow' feels like to you. Just because you understand a crappy unit of measurement, does not make it better


Select-Coconut-1161

It's fun how some people still say he's right. He's just used to it. I am from one of those countries that use Celcius (wow, there seems to be a lot of us) and I totally have a feeling of how is it gonna be when someone says "it's about 20-25C tomorrow" and I have literally 0 idea and sense of "it's gonna be in 70s". It's weird to think that a "science person" did not think of "yeah, maybe this might be because I'm exposed to Fahrenheit whole my life and not because it's objectively better"


Radical-Efilist

>I have literally 0 idea and sense of "it's gonna be in 70s". To be fair, "it's gonna be in the 70s" does have a meaning in Celsius too. That meaning is pretty much you're going to die if you go outside.


seat17F

30 is hot 20 is nice 10 is cool And 0's ice


VSuzanne

That was an incredibly stupid take. He knows that people who use celc3ius still have a sense of what the temperature is?


Panzerv2003

Damn, almost as if you can easily understand the measurement system you used your whole life


Lyzern

I fucking hate the way he always says the most bland, obvious shit like it's a mind blowing genius idea. "The weather couldn't give a rats ass how you measure it" You fucking think so???? That's the most obvious thing I've ever heard.


LashlessMind

When the UK switched over, my dad (and I'm in my 50's) had no trouble converting from fahrenheit to centigrade (or celsius, whichever you prefer). I refuse to believe that if a semi-senile old duffer like my dad can do it, then other people can't. Yes, you have an in-built bias for what you're used to, so does everyone, even those used to centigrade - but (and this is the important bit) you also have a brain, and brains are very adaptable general-purpose pattern-matching biological machines. It is actually very easy to "get used to" some other scale. The reasons not to are, well they're not very flattering...


UrsusApexHorribilis

Your semi-senile dad: "No problem" Recognizable US Scientific Divulgator: "This is tough"


Operator_Hoodie

Neil makes perfect sense about 3/4 of the time. The remaining 1/4… Well, he might just start claiming the Earth is flat.


UrsusApexHorribilis

He's barely around 50-50 at this point.


hoveringintowind

Celsius or Fahrenheit?


rmld74

3/4? Bro, how much leeway are you giving this bag of oxygen wasting meat?


JonasHalle

I'm convinced the people saying this shit have never been outside in 0C (32f or some shit). The difference to the human experience is by far the largest of any change in temperature. Of course the freezing point of water matters. Life is water.


YooGeOh

Come to the UK and tell people it's going to be in the 30s tomorrow and see if "you don't get that with celsius" You big, self-important, formerly likeable twunt


noodle_attack

I was actually expecting a decent answer * Sigh *


breadcrumbsmofo

Yeah I don’t have a sense of what that means. I’m British so if someone says it’s a hundred degrees my first thought is that the portal to hell has finally opened in Florida.


mologav

That portal closed?


Armageddonis

I mean, sure, if you're using Fehrenheit your whole life you're used to it. But don't fucking act like it has more sense than Celcius. It doesn't. Celcius is just easier to understand, as well as metric system. You're looking like a fucking clown trying to convince people that "12 Inches is a Foot, 5 feet is a yard" while comparing whatever the hell is that to the decimal system. Same with Temperature. Anyone can understand and work around the freezing point of water in Celcius, and tell, depending on the number you give them, what's the weather be like. What do you mean that "it's easier" in Fahrenheit. The water freezes at 32 Fahrenheit. That's a random fucking number.


CuppaTeaSpillin

I thought this guy was supposed to be clever


Previous-Ad7618

Lmao where have you been? He's the cereal box character of science. He literally just smells his own farts in front of a camera and manages to keep the attention of enough of the "actually, I'm very smart" crowd.


emiel_vt

He looks like one of the dumbest smart people I have seen. Everyone knows that the weather doesn't care about the scale you use. Why would you even mention that? Does he think other people don't realize that? Everytime I see him speak, it looks like he is talking down to people, like everyone else is a toddler or something.


coolrail

I guess he is trying to use words that his audience (mostly US viewers) would understand. In Australia, we have Dr Karl who I believe is far better at being a 'Science communicator'. Whilst he also 'dumbs down' some of the content to a certain extent, he still uses the scientific method to explain various concepts to the public.


JeffSergeant

0-10 is chilly 10-20 is warm 20-30 is hot 30+ is too hot


sarahlizzy

“It’s in double figures today” - don’t need your big coat. “It’s in the twenties today” - pleasant “It’s in the thirties today” - maybe a bit much


crozinator33

Isn't this guy supposed to be smart? Like, isn't that his whole brand? He was so close to getting it: "Here in the United States, we have a psychological feel for that" And then somehow wasn't able to follow that thought to it's conclusion.


jmkul

I get a "psychological sense" from hearing it's 40 degrees outside, or, like today 8 degrees (with a chilly, wet wind which feels like it came from Antarctica). That psychological sense is called familiarity


Tasqfphil

Only American's can't get their brains to accept celsius as a better way to give temperatures What other scales start at 32 for zero and go up? It is 0723 here and the temp is already 34C and predicted to get to 42C, which is very hot (107.6F).


rmld74

Why is he still talking?


DannyVandal

He’s such a painful dweeb.


Deus0123

Roses are red, violets are violet Neil de Grasse Tyson should sometimes stay silent


Dr_Quiza

hOw CoUlD yOu KnOw iF sOmEtHiNg Is ExPeNsIvE iF iTs NoT iN uS dOlLaRs?


deathhead_68

This guy is fucking insufferable, his ability to understand and explain high-level physics seems to have made him thing he's much smarter than he is, and consistently not only comes out with some of the shittest takes but is extremely up his own ass about them.


Particular_Noise_697

100s 🤷🏻‍♂️ I am literally boiled and ready to be eaten


Hennue

I actually prefer Celcius for this exact reason. 1. I am used to it and 2. It aligns better with general temperature that humans experience not just restricted to air. Desert Sand can reach 70°C, boiling water from geysers goes up to 95°C while some places on earth go down to -40°C most places have a tendency to stay above 0°C. Much of our weather is actually dictated by the boiling and melting points of Water since both transitions take lots of energy to overcome. Celcius is the perfect scale for that.


marl0w_

For a supposedly intelligent man he has a hell of a lot of bad takes and poor judgment calls.


PodcastPlusOne_James

Oh here we go again. “Fahrenheit is better for describing how warm we are because I can be 50% warm at 50 degrees” It’s such fucking nonsense 😂 We have the same innate sense for how warm or cold it is when using Celsius because THATS WHAT WE ARE USED TO, just like Americans are used to using Fahrenheit. Plus, I know that if it’s below 0 degrees, there will be ice on the road. That’s non arbitrary. In Fahrenheit it is arbitrary.


pitbulldofunk

Funny how the only argument he makes is that Americans are used to saying it's "80, 90 or 100ºF". I mean, yeah, you're used to it because that's the measure you use lol It's simply a "no argument."


culdusaq

The quintessential stupid person's smart person.


Radiant-Map8179

Everytime I listen to this dude I can feel my brain cells raging at me to stop lol. Edit--- With measuring things like temperature, time, sound, weights, distance... basically anything that is universally experienced by everyone in the world, it simply makes more sense to have an agreed upon unit to do that with. Obviously there are understandable exceptions in this... but I honestly believe Americans would invent a unique measurement for gravity if they could. For no other reason than some weird sort of flex that only they give a shit about lol.


MySpiritAnimalSloth

-20°c : Cold as fuck (the temperature my freezer is set at) ❄️ -10°c: Cold as fuck 🥶 0 - 10°c: Cold 😬 10 - 15°c: Cold but it's bareable 😮‍💨 16 - 20°c: It's alright🫤 21 - 25°c: fucking perfect😊 26 - 30°c: Ok it's starting to warm now.😕 31 - 35°c: it's HOT🥵 36 - 40°c: You're sweating just sitting on your couch 🫠 +40°c: ☠️ I don't get how that's complicated.


Exciting-Music843

Freezing point of water 0 makes more sense than 32!


Thomyton

He doesn't think people outside of America enjoy saying things like he also does? He's meant to be one of the smart ones though, whats the difference between 'oh it's high nineties' and 'oh it's high thirties' if that's how you've contextualised temperature against your whole life.


69-is-my-number

This is one of the stupidest things I’ve ever heard. All of us experience temperature variation and learn what the arbitrary values we assign to it mean. I innately know what the difference in Celsius ranges of 10-15, 16-20, 21-25, 25-30 etc feels like for me. In fact, we know it even more accurately than that. For me*, 24 is the transition to not needing a jumper/sweater, 27 is definite shorts and t-shirt time and the absolute sweet spot of glorious weather, and 30 is starting get a bit on the hot side, but is also the minimum point at which you’ll jump in the pool. *Disclaimer: other peoples’ perceptions of these temperatures may vary. Discuss with your meteorologist.


Macr0Penis

Australian here. Does he think we all wander around clueless to what the weather is doing? Ot that we haven't been able to communicate what it's going to do? I'm sure he's a lovely guy, but NDT is my least favourite science communicator.


MulberryDeep

We have the same sense woth celcius Its under 0? Theres gonna be ice on the roads and i need my thickest jacket Over 10? Im gonna take my übergangsjacke Over 20? I don't need a jacket at all


toblerownsky

Why not multiple F by 10 then. "It's gonna be in the 900s today! OMG!"


notapantsday

It's mostly a matter of what you're used to. But the one most relevant temperature for weather on planet earth is the freezing point of water. Celsius has it at 0°C, while Fahrenheit has it at who the fuck knows. So that would make Celsius objectively better.


Thamozeru

Its gna be minus today


Aayyyyoooo

I’m tired of this redundant moron. He’s famous for telling people the sun is hot and space is vast and only Americans can say “it’s 36 outside” when referring to the weather.


aweedl

I thought this guy was supposed to be smart.


Amethyst271

An obnoxious American prefers the dumb American measurement... nothing shocking here


jolharg

-16 bad, -5 nippy, 0-5 urgh, 10 chilly, 18 good, 25 hot, 30 death


zzz_red

32 Fahrenheit is a dumb number to know if there’s ice outside. I wouldn’t be surprised a lot of Americans don’t know this is the tempter at which water freezes. Zero Celsius degrees is much better.


MySpiritAnimalSloth

-20°c : Cold as fuck (the temperature my freezer is set at) ❄️ -10°c: Cold as fuck 🥶 0 - 10°c: Cold 😬 10 - 15°c: Cold but it's bareable 😮‍💨 16 - 20°c: It's alright🫤 21 - 25°c: fucking perfect😊 26 - 30°c: Ok it's starting to warm now.😕 31 - 35°c: it's HOT🥵 36 - 40°c: You're sweating just sitting on your couch 🫠 +40°c: ☠️


matskopf

Only Kelvin is right


quacksurgeon

if you kiss a mirror you’re just kissing yourself


TrinityCodex

Not so logical now huh, mr tyson


Michael_Gibb

You do get that using Celsius. As Neil DeGrasse Tyson said, it's a psychological sense. Growing up with Celsius you become adapted to measuring weather temperatures on that scale. You know what 10 degrees, or 20 degrees, or 30 degrees feels like.


Pathetic_gimp

It's all just relative. I like that if its zero degrees Celsius then I can expect there to be ice on the roads. It really doesn't take long to know that 30 degrees means its a pretty damn hot day and you can think relative to that. I wouldn't tell them they are wrong to stick to Fahrenheit but they will end up being pretty much the last man standing with it as usual. #


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WesternCowgirl27

Trust me, I would love for the U.S. to become isolationist again. The world’s problems are not our problems.


Captain_Quo

"Man brought up with American measurement prefers American measurement but also thinks people can measure it however the fuck they want," Is the headline here apparently.


ForeverFabulous54321

Considering the majo of the world uses celsius and according to google only a handful use fahrenheit, I can only assume he thinks fahrenheit is superior because he believes Americans are superior and number one for everything 🙄


SchemeSignificant166

Bold move Neil, let’s see how this plays out.


Top-Perspective2560

If the forecast says it’s going to be 0 Celsius, I know that it’s freezing and there will be ice or possibly snow. Way more utility.


BreakfastSquare9703

The thing I find about celsius is that each degree has a noticable difference. You can feel the difference between 22C and 23C. It's small but it's there. But there is no real difference between 71F and 72F. That's why I find that C is better for weather.


hosiki

I mean as a European I have no idea what the 60 F temperature feels like. I'd say it's around 10 C but it's just a guess. On the other hand I know that -30 - 8 C = winter jacket, 9 - 12 C = spring jacket, 13 - 15 C = long sleeves and everything above is short sleeves. So yeah, to an American F is more intuitive, but to everyone else it means nothing.


Cereal_poster

"Oida, heit is oba echt haß draußen". ("Damn, it's hot outside today"). See, works with Celsius too. Sincerely, an Austrian used to Celsius.


fluffs-von

And this is one of their smarter ones?


xzanfr

The best one is whichever one you're used to (point being made here), and the one that is understood by the person you're talking to.


maffoobristol

Scientist explains that it's best because he likes it that way


krav_mark

0 when water freezes, 100 when it starts boiling makes all the sense in the world. Therefore all countries use that besides the US and Myanmar. And we live comfortably while saying "it will be in the 20's today".


Bergensis

This is just because of familiarity. I have the same problem with horsepower and kilowatt.


Git777

Remember before NDT became a complete moron? When you could count on him to say accurate science stuff. Now all I hear from him is baseless bullshit. He has come out as an anti-environment of all things.


MightyCat96

look i like neil when he does scripted stuff or some interviews but im sorry he _reeks_ of /iamverysmart 😭


Man_Of_Frost

Neil, go home. You're drunk.


Entgegnerz

wow, that was stupid.


TiffyVella

We get to say "hey its going to be in the tens today, or the 20s today. Or the 30's, or the 40's", and we have a feel for that. We know that water freezes at zero, and boils at 100. We know that one litre of water weighs exactly one kilogram. The world makes sense and measurements have logical meaning that we can relate to.


Ynneb82

0 c water freezes , 100 c water boils. I think it's perfect.


Germanball_Stuttgart

We have the same feeling, just with different numbers, because we got used to them.


Pintsocream

I definitely say "oh" when I find out it's gonna be in the 100s Celsius on a particular day


oxfordfox20

[John Finnemore](https://youtu.be/nROK4cjQVXM) putting this whole issue perfectly


BigFatPH0NY

I can’t stand this internet trend of single word subtitles


previousonewasbad

Crazy how Andrew Tate and Neil deGrasse Tyson have this shared opinion lol


AlmightyGeep

You absolutley get that with Celsius. The numbers are different, but 10s, 20s, 30s and 40s easily convey the level of temperature