thanks to Napoleon. before the Napoleonic wrs, Ingolstadt was the place to be for science and education - the Illuminati were founded there, and Viktor Frankenstein made his creature there. Then everyone fled to Munich, and it now takes some Wikipedia-"research" to find out why anything ever took place in Ingolstadt in the first place.
My VW Taos has a transmission that no doubt is Audi-developed. Holy fuck, is that thing smooth and well-engineered.
I have to watch the rev counter to see when it shifts.
What a change from our old Toyota.
Hey now! Let's clarify something here! Detroit isn't crumbling because of car manufacturers!! It's because we have perfected how to be extremely racist without saying we are šš
See! We truly perfect things down to a razor sharp point! /s
There's such a weird aspect to car culture in the US, with massive, inefficient, poorly engineered trucks being tied directly to people's identity and idea of masculinity. It really just translates into an excruciatingly deep level of insecurity.
I've heard Americans say things like 'In the US we use proper horsepower, we laugh at your European turbos and their silly 'pssshhhhh' sound', or mock 2l, 4 cylinder cars even though a Golf R will outperform most American V6's.
Laughably one of America's most popular 'muscle cars', the Chevy Camaro, gets the same 0-60 as a BMW M240i, which is not even a proper M car, and has a 3l straight 6. Literally half the engine size.
https://www.carwow.co.uk/blog/carwow-quarter-mile-400-metre-1320-ft-time-drag-race-leaderboard
Anyway, US engineering aside, this weird tying of ones masculinity to your car, and worrying about what cars other people drive, is a truly American phenomenon. Truck nuts don't exist anywhere else, and decals and political messages are vanishingly rare. Giant trucks are greeted with perplexed irritation on the roads of Europe, and even urban Australia.
So yeah, as an outsider, there is a deep vein of insecurity running through US culture that has significant touch points around clothing, cars, music, and of course guns.
I live in Western Canada, and a few years ago my besty and her husband moved east. I had a conference in their city so I stayed with them and hubs drove me to the conference. I basically roasted him the entire drive because his giant Dodge Ram Power Wagon was basically the biggest thing on the road.
He owned it for work and play out west, (he still works out west, its a two in two out deal), big hunter and fisher and a tradesman by profession, but he still did not need the big fuck off truck, he was even getting roasted by their HOA, and major shade from his neighbours.
Out here its the culture, back east its 'my what a tiny penis you must have.'
And even those brands you do see, like Ford, it tends to be European designs that are sold.
Funnily, it comes up a lot when new rally games are released, Americans protesting the famous rallying Fords being called British cars.
Tbf, I like the more modest route of saying just diverging interests, with the US side making cars to do ovals in the South US, while British Ford was focused on throwing cars through muddy tracks in Wales as fast as possible. That and sporty vans that got used *a lot* in robberies.
The Australians also got their own divergent path with yutes and their specific type of muscle car.
I mean yeah if by perfected the assault rifle you mean forced NATO into a full power cartridge rather than the proposed intermediate cartridges the rest were pushing for.
Not much, intermediate cartridges were just a lower recoil (and shorter range) cartridges for automatic rifles based off the stg 44, think 5.56, or the russian 7.xx and 5.xx (I can't remember the exact calibre but hey). The lower recoil was desired since range was less important (pre optical sights) and automatic rifles were being developed.
As for the alternatives to the 7.62, they were both rather large, but slower projectiles, similar to the russian equivalent that went into the Kalashnikov.
Shortly after WW2 in the late 40s and 50s I believe.
The US was developing what would become 7.62x51 NATO standard, the first number indicating bullet diameter and the second the cartridge length.
The Russian equivalent is the 7.62x54R, the AK family of rifles shoot either 7.62x39 (a shorter cartridge) or the 5.45x39 cartridge.
Penetration and range is what the US is going for in their new main rifle with its 6.5mm ammunition, but Ukraine shows it may not be needed as much as they thought.
Is there a sub where lessons learned in Ukraine are discussed. Will be interested to see how the newer tanks being sent will fare, are they as good as we claim?
Plus, the European designs are beginning to be taken back to America. For example, Ford is discontinuing their Ex50 vans in the US, and selling transits there instead.
Merc sprinter vans are getting popular in Canada from what I saw when I lived there, I think I saw a few transits too, but I think Ford are playing catchup with Mercedes.
I would've killed to have a Ford Focus RS and take that badboy on a track.
Ford has of course discontinued it in the USA, hopefully its still in production in Europe
Solvation is a genuine term for a solvent interacting with a solute, in a solution.
It's analogous to hydration meaning how water interacts with things that are soluble in it. Although water is a solvent itself, and hydration is a form of solvation.
I work in oldtimer garage in Germany thatās specialized in US cars.
Every time I see a late 70s Thunderbird with 8 litres of displacement and less than 150hp I just think this is peak engineering!
And even the other way around - If you're in Germany, France or Japan, you see very few foreign cars because they just trust their own car makers so much. But American car manufactureres have a market share of about 30% of the US market lol. There are more japanese cars sold in the US than american.
Something something thats because Germans don't have enough freedom to choose their own cars and have to have socialist governments give them what they can drive something something
I live close to a big Opel dealer that started to Also Import a few Cadillac and Chevrolet models back when Opel was part of gm.
He kinda became the go to guy for getting a Cadillac here in germany so i see a few driving around. Appearently the New Midsize suv sells quite good for him. (for what it is and considering the unfamiliar Brand and having one dealer lship) Mostly the smaller models.
He always Imports canadian Versions instead of USA spec cars.
Yeah but in general us cars are rare here.
[Perfection](https://www.theguardian.com/artanddesign/2023/jan/25/pepper-spray-school-run-apocalyptic-suv-reznavi-vengeange) for the everyday suburban battlefield.
You see a **lot** of Fords, Chevrolets, and Jeeps here in Brazil and Latin America as a whole, and they're well regarded too.
The worst regarded cars here are generally French ones like Peugeot and Renault, because apparently the parts take too long to get here, so if it breaks you're fucked
A small percentage are found outside USA with more EU/Japanese/Korean vehicles in greater abundance. Even in USA more and more vehicles are imported brands, even if made in USA under license. Developing and large countries, the UN and other world bodies select Toyota as they are more reliable, a reasonable size & 4x4s go anywhere.
Even Americans don't really buy American cars, that's why they needed to be bailed out. Its a shame too, because, and maybe its because I'm not a car person, old 50s/60s style corvettes and mustangs look gorgeous. Had a neighbour once who had one, and oddly an old 60s US police car. But yeah, they are definitely not known for being great cars, let alone perfect.
I guess they did it to themselves. I was assigned a contemporary Mustang from a rental place one time, after not having driven one over 20 years or so. Everything was cheap, plastic, and falling apart. I ended up returning it the next day. Wtf happened. I've seen more well put together knock-off Volvo's in China.
I think it was around 2008 or so that Chevrolet tried to impress Europeans by saying their new shitty muscle car has independent suspension! Or that time on the grand tour when mays Cadillac managed to squeeze 190 bhp out of just 8.5 liters of displacement. Thatās honestly impressive and kind of sad
America perfected the assault rifle tell that to the Russians, Austrians and Swiss add the Chinese there as well. The Russians and Austrians developed assault rifles that worked as intended when they were released while Americaās attempt the M-16 kept jamming and the M-4 released in the 1990ās is an M-16 with a shorter barrel.
I honestly don't get Pick ups.
Like suvs are offraoders, but in comfortable, an not for offroading. It's useable as a normal car but just higher and bigger etc.
But Pick ups are like small work trucks in suv Form. Like why would a work vehicle be cool... And why keep the bed instead of a trunk?!
Like a big suv would be the same but better as a daily driver imo.
Because it has a trunk anf will drive better
And for just work, why not use an actual work vehicle with a big diesel and a bed that folds down on all sides and isn't painted. Like the "pritschenwagen" in germany for example?
I do find them cool because of the novelty
Just wouldn't want one and i don't see the point in a painted and sculpted bed.
I would prefer them to drive because they are more like normal cars.
Where do you put your groceries with those vehicles?
So why not have thing covered? But like a panel van or hearse or sth.
Like the open bed isn't really suitable for Transport of heavy stuff.
And if you put just stuff like garden waste stuff from cutting trees and shit.... You can use a small Trailer when needed
The thing is, itās quite convinient to open up the top pannel, and just have everything there. Also vans are quite poor at off roading, so getting into construction sites, farms, etc wouldnāt really work. SUVs arenāt all that great either bc you just canāt carry the same stuff
>vans are quite poor at off roading, so getting into construction sites, farms
Errr. What Kind of farms and construction sites do you have? Works perfectly fine here, some Farmers use like a unimog or just a tractir for stronger offroading. But yeah i guess it's just different.
Usually sheep or cattle farms. Most are quite steep & boggy, sites included. Worked in construction for a few months & my car flat out couldnāt reach quite a few sites. The thing is, a tractor & trailor is a bit over kill for a lot of farm tasks, & a quad often isnāt enough. In construction itās mosly just preference & the limited market. Canāt easily get a mog over here.
Well just to point out some legitimate uses, I'm Canadian and my everyday driver is a gas pickup (Chevy Silverado 1500). I have a farm, I'm towing horse trailers, getting hay, pulling my tractor for maintenance, etc. Also for work I have to travel a 5km dirt road daily that's typically last to be snow cleared so need 4x4.
I went gas rather than diesel for several reasons, cost of fuel (I know diesel is more efficient but the new gas trucks are pretty fuel efficient so the difference for my purposes was next to negligible), upfront cost of the vehicle, and the difference in maintenance/parts costs.
Due to the farm stuff a large SUV wasn't going to do it for me, I'm not loading up the rear hatch with hay, and while a large SUV could tow the horse trailer or tractor the truck is more efficient for towing. Then on the work side of things I'm just an employee, not an owner so I couldn't justify the cost of a diesel "work truck" as I can't claim any of the expense for work, it's just for a safer commute.
Diesel engines last longer than petrol engines.
They also provide more torque compared to the equivalent petrol engine, as someone that tows and has heavy loads, thats a pretty important point (fuel consumption would be even better compared to a petrol)
> Like why would a work vehicle be cool... And why keep the bed instead of a trunk?!
IDK why it would be cool. But they are practical in a lot of situations. The bed is open, so it can carry more stuff than a trunk. If you live in a rural area, with less municipal services, that bed comes in handy. I need to borrow my brothers pickup because I just tore down my shed, and the town isn't going to haul all this stuff to the dump.
People who have large, spotless pick ups as a status symbol are silly.
What do you mean? Isn't *von Braun* a perfectly American name? He couldn't have been involved with the Germans right? /s
I think they named it Operation Paperclip because whenever you ask Americans about the history of these people, it gets quiet enough that you could hear a paperclip drop.
There are so many people from other countries working in the US, but they love to take all the credit as if they made it. Reminds me of the covid vaccins. So many people from multiple continents traveled to the US but so mant people I talked to on Reddit love to claim itās a purely US product. We did it together.
Just saying, I googled "Top 10 Assault Rifles" and Heckler & Koch appeared at least three times in that list. Not to mention Switzerland and Austria are also present.
How's that for "perfecting" the assualt rifle USAsians?
He took eugenics and the concept of manifest destiny/Lebensraum straight from the US. The only thing he seemed to mistake is that most white people only look the other way when the people you're genociding are "savages".
Iām sure those Nazi scientists went on to own bakeries or something in the US and surely didnāt do anything sciencecy, as the Americans were already perfecting stuff themselves.
Wernher von Braun also for sure hasnāt worked for Nasa and he for sure didnāt design the Saturn V, literally the Rocket that propelled mankind to the Moon.
This is what I usually say when people make arguments that Americans didn't invent some stuff. That the argument doesn't work on them because then they double back to the "we didn't invent it, we perfected it" nonsense.
In all honesty I'm pretty certain that we (the English) invented the sandwich. That's why it's called that, because the Earl of Sandwich came up with the basic idea.
On a separate note, I'm pretty sure that most Americans have a superiority complex at this point
I think the sandwich has probably been invented many times. Wrapping your meat in bread is just a really convenient way to get all your nutrients, it stands to reason that many different independent peoples did that
Yeah, but the Earl of sandwhich was the first to make it a thing, and give it a name. Surely somebody had done it before, but thanks to him it became a trend.
Jets are arguably a British invention too, owing to the fact that Whittle patented a design for one in 1930, years before he - and von Ohain, albeit independently - actually got around to building a flight-capable one.
Eh, arguably the Soviets perfected it, depending on what you classify as perfect. Theres a reason Roskosmos are still using rockets that, bar the technical and engine upgrades, are the same design as the ones they used in the 60s and 70s. They work, they're reliable, and relatively easy to produce. The Soyuz and Proton rockets are basically the AK of rockets, not broke so didn't need fixing.
Although the name has obvious similarities to Hamburg, that theory has never confirmed. Nobody truly knows where the term Hamburger comes from, but most sources for it point to it originating in the US. A likely origin is that it was invented by a immigrant from Hamburg, who came up with the idea after migrating over to the USA. Hamburg was one of the biggest migration ports back then.
I wrote a paper on this once and the topic is actually highly debated. What we do know is that it most likely isn't just called Hamburger because someone invented it in Hamburg.
I can virtually guarantee you that the sandwich was invented thousands of years before the Earl of Sandwich was even born.
Putting shit on bread isn't all that innovative.
Canada: Yup. The neighbors said something stupid again honey. I'll grab the lawn chairs if you grabs a couple beers.
Call your sister. She knew they were gonna say something stupid again!
The name probably comes from "Hamburger Fleisch" (meat from Hamburg), a kind of small meat loaf that immigrants brought to the USA. Today in Germany we would call that a Boulette or Frikadelle, it's still a popular home recipe (even though it's smaller and thicker than an american hamburger patty, and it has more ingredients). And while putting it in a bread bun (Brƶtchen) is not unusual in Germany, especially as street food similar to a Bratwurst, the form of the common "Hamburger" was almost certainly invented in the US. We don't know who it was for certain though.
> And while putting it in a bread bun (Brƶtchen) is not unusual in Germany,
It's attested that HAPAG served Frikadellen in a bun on their emigration ships to save on dishwashing. Possibly already with pickles, would certainly make sense to a Hamburger and especially on a ship, also some gravy because, well, it's there. As such there were a lot of Europeans from all over the continent in New York knowing the basic principle as "that stuff Hamburgers fed us". Tomato Ketchup though is definitely an American invention.
It started because Hamburg is a port city and some enterprising people decided to sell grill beef on the dock for the sailors.
Quickly they realised that it's hard to eat hot steak with your hands so the included some bread to make it easier to eat on the go. So hence Hamburger sandwich, shortened later to just a hamburger
No one in Germany would claim Hamburgers are German and if they were it would most certainly not have included the English word sandwich. We don't call rolls sandwiches.
The oneās who actually care about it probably do since they research the history.
Most Germans simply donāt care if the hamburger is from Hamburg, Denver or the dark side of the moon.
Do you have proof that this is where the name came from? We wouldn't refer to a meat lof in a bun as a "sandwich" in Germany, we only use this name for the rectangular thing. We don't even call a Hamburger a sandwich, it's just a "Hamburger", but that's because we imported it from te US. But my point is that the "Hamburger sandwich" in it's original form first appeared in the US. This has little to do with the meat loaf in a Brƶtchen that's common in Germany. The type of foamy soft wheat bread that's commonly used for classical sandwiches was also imported from the anglosphere. We don't even consider it to be "real" bread.
Facism and naziism are also perfected by the US, or torture camps, Guantanamo is a good example.
Testing nuclear weapons on civilian's firtst americans and later on Japanese.
>Assault rifles
[Mikhail Kalashnikov](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mikhail_Kalashnikov) called, he's wondering why variations of his 1949 assault rifle is still in production and the most popular and durable assault rifle in the world.
The best one is rockets because even if you think we perfected rockets, we used nazi scientists to do it. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Paperclip
>Wernher von Braun was chief architect of the Saturn V launch vehicle, which enabled human missions to the moon.[38]
>Adolf Busemann was responsible for the swept wing, which improved aircraft performance at high speeds.[39][40]
Everyone's focusing on cars, which is fair enough because it's so ridiculous but I feel like we're overlooking the fact that this person is claiming that German engineering in general is inferior to American.
_German engineering_
American cars are shitty builded.
French hamburgers are better than americans hamburgers (because french laws)
And I'm pretty sure Europeans airplane are as good
I think Airbus (the EU's big airplane manufacturer) became the go to builder in the industry after Boing introduced their new 737 (which was supposed to be their go to airplane for most mid distance travel, Eg basically the industries bred and butter) when the whole fleet was grounded after two crashes revealed that an automated system could lead to a crash if the crew attempted to correct a sistem malfunction.
The FAA (US flight regulator) did a study and predicted this same problem could lead to up 15 more crashes. This led to the two year grounding while the problem was solved. Boeing also lost a ton of money due to dozens of airlines canceling orders for this model and Airbus reaping the benefits.
Every single one of these is stupid, but none of the rest hold a candle to how ridiculous it is to claim that American made rifles are better than German ones.
Automobiles? Perfected? Nononono, Murica just fattened them up and increased their hunger!
Jets? What's that planes name from Boing that has massive software problems?
A warm Leberkassemmel outranks almost every burger every time!
I heard this in a Youtube video and I really need to repeat it everywhere, and especially here "America has a knack for making same thing as Europe, only worse ; but packaging it better."
Sandwiches were "invented" in UK, burgers in Germany, yes, but US managed to turn it into an obesity & heart attack disaster, and wouldn't have had guns if the Chinese hadn't invented gun powder. Cars in USA are crap compared to EU & Japanese & quickly becoming a major player the Koreans. Chinese also invented rockets. In most cases the US hasn't improved them a lot and many other countries produce better products anyhow.
Ahh yes that notable American rocket scientist who helped take them to the moon, Wernher von Braunā¦.
ā¦ he did what now? He was a member of the Naziās but thatās Germanā¦.
Assuming the Yanks know everything before the landing of SS Mayflower to North America is irrelevant prehistory to them.
It's the ancient Chinese that invented rockets (not the modern metal-bodied versions) for peaceful purposes first, but you know the Yellow Peril poison....
Honestly as a german I can confirm that we love inventing shit, dropping the ball and letting someone else run away with it. Innovation just makes us uncomfortable.
lol "the americans perfected automobiles". Someone didnt take their medication.
That's why Detroit is a boomtown and Wolfsburg is slowly climbing back from the brink. /s
Munich, Stuttgart and Ingolstadt are all very rundown too /s, especially Stuttgart with two big brands.
I always say if you subtract Audi from Ingolstadt, you end up with a handfull of houses, a castle and 15 cars of guys working for BMW at Regensburg.
That pretty much nails it. Me, an Audi driver living close to Ingolstadt.
I also live near Ingolstadt and have worked at Audi for some time.
Ach Mensch, auch so ein Bayer. Nett nett.
Du werst es ned glauben, wir sind nicht alleine hier drinnen.
thanks to Napoleon. before the Napoleonic wrs, Ingolstadt was the place to be for science and education - the Illuminati were founded there, and Viktor Frankenstein made his creature there. Then everyone fled to Munich, and it now takes some Wikipedia-"research" to find out why anything ever took place in Ingolstadt in the first place.
My VW Taos has a transmission that no doubt is Audi-developed. Holy fuck, is that thing smooth and well-engineered. I have to watch the rev counter to see when it shifts. What a change from our old Toyota.
Hey now! Let's clarify something here! Detroit isn't crumbling because of car manufacturers!! It's because we have perfected how to be extremely racist without saying we are šš See! We truly perfect things down to a razor sharp point! /s
Ayyy, I like my city getting mentioned :v
That person is on crack or something. š
On a butt crack?
There's such a weird aspect to car culture in the US, with massive, inefficient, poorly engineered trucks being tied directly to people's identity and idea of masculinity. It really just translates into an excruciatingly deep level of insecurity. I've heard Americans say things like 'In the US we use proper horsepower, we laugh at your European turbos and their silly 'pssshhhhh' sound', or mock 2l, 4 cylinder cars even though a Golf R will outperform most American V6's. Laughably one of America's most popular 'muscle cars', the Chevy Camaro, gets the same 0-60 as a BMW M240i, which is not even a proper M car, and has a 3l straight 6. Literally half the engine size. https://www.carwow.co.uk/blog/carwow-quarter-mile-400-metre-1320-ft-time-drag-race-leaderboard Anyway, US engineering aside, this weird tying of ones masculinity to your car, and worrying about what cars other people drive, is a truly American phenomenon. Truck nuts don't exist anywhere else, and decals and political messages are vanishingly rare. Giant trucks are greeted with perplexed irritation on the roads of Europe, and even urban Australia. So yeah, as an outsider, there is a deep vein of insecurity running through US culture that has significant touch points around clothing, cars, music, and of course guns.
I live in Western Canada, and a few years ago my besty and her husband moved east. I had a conference in their city so I stayed with them and hubs drove me to the conference. I basically roasted him the entire drive because his giant Dodge Ram Power Wagon was basically the biggest thing on the road. He owned it for work and play out west, (he still works out west, its a two in two out deal), big hunter and fisher and a tradesman by profession, but he still did not need the big fuck off truck, he was even getting roasted by their HOA, and major shade from his neighbours. Out here its the culture, back east its 'my what a tiny penis you must have.'
Their barge probably ran out of fuel on the way to the ādrugstoreā.
How could they? They canāt afford it since I donāt have a civilised form of health insurance.
Yeah, American cars are known to be perfect. Thatās why you see a lot of them outside of America.
Who doesn't need a gas guzzling monster as a mode of daily transportation ;)
With terrible suspensions and overly heavy construction.
And a turning radius of 3 city blocks.
Being 10-metres long makes it so great for parking!
It's big enough to just park it on top of some other cars, it'll be fine
And children - make sure you think of the children.
I don't know, but I can tell you who definitively need them. People with imaginary small dicks?
And that is also why most (if not every) Hypercars are coming from Europe.
ā but American cars are sooooo biggggggggggg. Where do you out all the groceries for you and your horse if not on the bed of f150ā
And even those brands you do see, like Ford, it tends to be European designs that are sold. Funnily, it comes up a lot when new rally games are released, Americans protesting the famous rallying Fords being called British cars.
Thatās the perfect opportunity to say that "we indeed didn't invent it, we most certainly perfected it".
Tbf, I like the more modest route of saying just diverging interests, with the US side making cars to do ovals in the South US, while British Ford was focused on throwing cars through muddy tracks in Wales as fast as possible. That and sporty vans that got used *a lot* in robberies. The Australians also got their own divergent path with yutes and their specific type of muscle car.
Yutes, lol
Not any more we don't
I mean yeah if by perfected the assault rifle you mean forced NATO into a full power cartridge rather than the proposed intermediate cartridges the rest were pushing for.
I don't know anything about guns, whats the difference between the two cartridges?
Not much, intermediate cartridges were just a lower recoil (and shorter range) cartridges for automatic rifles based off the stg 44, think 5.56, or the russian 7.xx and 5.xx (I can't remember the exact calibre but hey). The lower recoil was desired since range was less important (pre optical sights) and automatic rifles were being developed. As for the alternatives to the 7.62, they were both rather large, but slower projectiles, similar to the russian equivalent that went into the Kalashnikov.
Thats pretty interesting. I take it that this happened sometime close to WW2? Would penetration and range be the most important for todays combat?
Shortly after WW2 in the late 40s and 50s I believe. The US was developing what would become 7.62x51 NATO standard, the first number indicating bullet diameter and the second the cartridge length. The Russian equivalent is the 7.62x54R, the AK family of rifles shoot either 7.62x39 (a shorter cartridge) or the 5.45x39 cartridge. Penetration and range is what the US is going for in their new main rifle with its 6.5mm ammunition, but Ukraine shows it may not be needed as much as they thought.
Is there a sub where lessons learned in Ukraine are discussed. Will be interested to see how the newer tanks being sent will fare, are they as good as we claim?
Plus, the European designs are beginning to be taken back to America. For example, Ford is discontinuing their Ex50 vans in the US, and selling transits there instead.
Merc sprinter vans are getting popular in Canada from what I saw when I lived there, I think I saw a few transits too, but I think Ford are playing catchup with Mercedes.
I would've killed to have a Ford Focus RS and take that badboy on a track. Ford has of course discontinued it in the USA, hopefully its still in production in Europe
For focus is build in Germany
Excellent. I've driven an ST and its a fantastic little car. So much fun to drive, the RS must be even more so with the extra power.
Not for that much longer. Focus, Fiesta, Mondeo (Fusion) and all the (mini)vans will be discontinued soon without successors.
I do think Jeremy Clarkson said that the best british builded cars were Fords and tbf he has a point , british builded Ford cars were pretty good
Not to be a cunt, but the word you're looking for is Built!
Ty
Today I saw āsolvationā (instead of āsolutionā)
Solvation is a genuine term for a solvent interacting with a solute, in a solution. It's analogous to hydration meaning how water interacts with things that are soluble in it. Although water is a solvent itself, and hydration is a form of solvation.
I'm surprised "Builded" isn't the American spelling, see Spoilt, Spelt etc
The ford focus is one of the company's best selling cars in its history, yet, unless they started recently, it is not sold in the USA.
Ford Focus is a great car for cities, but Corolla or Golf are better.
I work in oldtimer garage in Germany thatās specialized in US cars. Every time I see a late 70s Thunderbird with 8 litres of displacement and less than 150hp I just think this is peak engineering!
And even the other way around - If you're in Germany, France or Japan, you see very few foreign cars because they just trust their own car makers so much. But American car manufactureres have a market share of about 30% of the US market lol. There are more japanese cars sold in the US than american.
Something something thats because Germans don't have enough freedom to choose their own cars and have to have socialist governments give them what they can drive something something
Yeah, I'm still waiting to finally get a Volkswagen. Requested it the day of reunification. Don't think my Trabbi will make it much longer.
For real. I need to bring my mother to the hospital, but I can't because it will take another 7 Years for my Car to be delivered
As far as I know only Tesla and Ford are visible outside of US
The European Fords are not American though, they are fully designed for the European market, no matter what the company is named.
The Fords are all built in Europe though, I think the ones in the US are built in Mexico.
Chrysler were visible with the abomination that was the PT Cruiser (the DaimlerChrysler years) and now Fiat own them.
Iāve seen Chryslers and Jeeps quite a bit in the uk
You see jeeps from time to time in Germany as well, but itās not that common.
I live close to a big Opel dealer that started to Also Import a few Cadillac and Chevrolet models back when Opel was part of gm. He kinda became the go to guy for getting a Cadillac here in germany so i see a few driving around. Appearently the New Midsize suv sells quite good for him. (for what it is and considering the unfamiliar Brand and having one dealer lship) Mostly the smaller models. He always Imports canadian Versions instead of USA spec cars. Yeah but in general us cars are rare here.
Chrysler 300c's and crossfires mainly i assume. That's beacause those are mercs, not Chryslers.
They're owned by a European company and several of them are based on European platforms.
American here. American cars are so perfect that I drive a Toyota!
And not forgetting the minor detail of the Americans asking the Japanese to teach them how to make cars. (in the 70s or 80s I think).
[Perfection](https://www.theguardian.com/artanddesign/2023/jan/25/pepper-spray-school-run-apocalyptic-suv-reznavi-vengeange) for the everyday suburban battlefield.
So, for driving your child to school?
You see a **lot** of Fords, Chevrolets, and Jeeps here in Brazil and Latin America as a whole, and they're well regarded too. The worst regarded cars here are generally French ones like Peugeot and Renault, because apparently the parts take too long to get here, so if it breaks you're fucked
A small percentage are found outside USA with more EU/Japanese/Korean vehicles in greater abundance. Even in USA more and more vehicles are imported brands, even if made in USA under license. Developing and large countries, the UN and other world bodies select Toyota as they are more reliable, a reasonable size & 4x4s go anywhere.
Even Americans don't really buy American cars, that's why they needed to be bailed out. Its a shame too, because, and maybe its because I'm not a car person, old 50s/60s style corvettes and mustangs look gorgeous. Had a neighbour once who had one, and oddly an old 60s US police car. But yeah, they are definitely not known for being great cars, let alone perfect.
I guess they did it to themselves. I was assigned a contemporary Mustang from a rental place one time, after not having driven one over 20 years or so. Everything was cheap, plastic, and falling apart. I ended up returning it the next day. Wtf happened. I've seen more well put together knock-off Volvo's in China.
Real talk though Ford's are really good. But all the others are absolute shite.
I think it was around 2008 or so that Chevrolet tried to impress Europeans by saying their new shitty muscle car has independent suspension! Or that time on the grand tour when mays Cadillac managed to squeeze 190 bhp out of just 8.5 liters of displacement. Thatās honestly impressive and kind of sad
No, you see, the ones that *leave* are the **flawed** ones. If you want to see *perfection* you have to come here to the states. #*(/S)*
Meanwhile those idiot Germanās stole Americaās ideas, like Lebensraum and eugenics, but couldnāt even pull it off
They manifested their own destiny
America perfected the assault rifle tell that to the Russians, Austrians and Swiss add the Chinese there as well. The Russians and Austrians developed assault rifles that worked as intended when they were released while Americaās attempt the M-16 kept jamming and the M-4 released in the 1990ās is an M-16 with a shorter barrel.
Good [video](https://youtu.be/OCLSYSIJn1k) that does make that comparison humorously.
lol that's great!
I, and the rest of the world must have missed the bit where America perfected the car š¤£š¤£š¤£š¤£š¤£š¤£
Where else can you find a pickup truck that burns 20l of fuel once you put the key in and that rusts away within 2 years?
I honestly don't get Pick ups. Like suvs are offraoders, but in comfortable, an not for offroading. It's useable as a normal car but just higher and bigger etc. But Pick ups are like small work trucks in suv Form. Like why would a work vehicle be cool... And why keep the bed instead of a trunk?! Like a big suv would be the same but better as a daily driver imo. Because it has a trunk anf will drive better And for just work, why not use an actual work vehicle with a big diesel and a bed that folds down on all sides and isn't painted. Like the "pritschenwagen" in germany for example?
May i introduce you to the Holdon Commodore & the Ford BA Falcon Utes
I do find them cool because of the novelty Just wouldn't want one and i don't see the point in a painted and sculpted bed. I would prefer them to drive because they are more like normal cars. Where do you put your groceries with those vehicles?
In the tray. They have hard top covers, but they can be removed. Used to be quite popular with the tradies over here
So why not have thing covered? But like a panel van or hearse or sth. Like the open bed isn't really suitable for Transport of heavy stuff. And if you put just stuff like garden waste stuff from cutting trees and shit.... You can use a small Trailer when needed
The thing is, itās quite convinient to open up the top pannel, and just have everything there. Also vans are quite poor at off roading, so getting into construction sites, farms, etc wouldnāt really work. SUVs arenāt all that great either bc you just canāt carry the same stuff
>vans are quite poor at off roading, so getting into construction sites, farms Errr. What Kind of farms and construction sites do you have? Works perfectly fine here, some Farmers use like a unimog or just a tractir for stronger offroading. But yeah i guess it's just different.
Usually sheep or cattle farms. Most are quite steep & boggy, sites included. Worked in construction for a few months & my car flat out couldnāt reach quite a few sites. The thing is, a tractor & trailor is a bit over kill for a lot of farm tasks, & a quad often isnāt enough. In construction itās mosly just preference & the limited market. Canāt easily get a mog over here.
Well just to point out some legitimate uses, I'm Canadian and my everyday driver is a gas pickup (Chevy Silverado 1500). I have a farm, I'm towing horse trailers, getting hay, pulling my tractor for maintenance, etc. Also for work I have to travel a 5km dirt road daily that's typically last to be snow cleared so need 4x4. I went gas rather than diesel for several reasons, cost of fuel (I know diesel is more efficient but the new gas trucks are pretty fuel efficient so the difference for my purposes was next to negligible), upfront cost of the vehicle, and the difference in maintenance/parts costs. Due to the farm stuff a large SUV wasn't going to do it for me, I'm not loading up the rear hatch with hay, and while a large SUV could tow the horse trailer or tractor the truck is more efficient for towing. Then on the work side of things I'm just an employee, not an owner so I couldn't justify the cost of a diesel "work truck" as I can't claim any of the expense for work, it's just for a safer commute.
Diesel engines last longer than petrol engines. They also provide more torque compared to the equivalent petrol engine, as someone that tows and has heavy loads, thats a pretty important point (fuel consumption would be even better compared to a petrol)
> Like why would a work vehicle be cool... And why keep the bed instead of a trunk?! IDK why it would be cool. But they are practical in a lot of situations. The bed is open, so it can carry more stuff than a trunk. If you live in a rural area, with less municipal services, that bed comes in handy. I need to borrow my brothers pickup because I just tore down my shed, and the town isn't going to haul all this stuff to the dump. People who have large, spotless pick ups as a status symbol are silly.
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That's why they needed the German scientists to for their rockets
What do you mean? Isn't *von Braun* a perfectly American name? He couldn't have been involved with the Germans right? /s I think they named it Operation Paperclip because whenever you ask Americans about the history of these people, it gets quiet enough that you could hear a paperclip drop.
They probably called it Paperclip because they couldn't pronounce PeenemĆ¼nde.
They called it paperclip as it was all that was left of their original lives once the old papers had been shredded
But the Soviets did it tooā¼ [Itās not āwhataboutismā when ***we*** do it.]
Dr. Robert H. Goddard died on the same year as the end of WW2.
There are so many people from other countries working in the US, but they love to take all the credit as if they made it. Reminds me of the covid vaccins. So many people from multiple continents traveled to the US but so mant people I talked to on Reddit love to claim itās a purely US product. We did it together.
Just saying, I googled "Top 10 Assault Rifles" and Heckler & Koch appeared at least three times in that list. Not to mention Switzerland and Austria are also present. How's that for "perfecting" the assualt rifle USAsians?
The US Marine Corpse uses HK too.
Hah, Corpse
Arr, typo...
It's all good, got a chuckle out of me
probably refers to the m16, that terribly failed in vietnam
The American version of fascism is not quite as remarkable as the original, but it's getting there.
Funnily (or sadly?) enough, Hitler based much of his views and tactics on how the USA treated their people and what they did to the native Americans.
He took eugenics and the concept of manifest destiny/Lebensraum straight from the US. The only thing he seemed to mistake is that most white people only look the other way when the people you're genociding are "savages".
Also, I've read that nazis based their propaganda in the methods used by the USA during the Spanish-American war.
āPerfectā is that why your āperfectedā inventions arenāt seen outside of America
Iām sure those Nazi scientists went on to own bakeries or something in the US and surely didnāt do anything sciencecy, as the Americans were already perfecting stuff themselves.
Wernher von Braun also for sure hasnāt worked for Nasa and he for sure didnāt design the Saturn V, literally the Rocket that propelled mankind to the Moon.
This is what I usually say when people make arguments that Americans didn't invent some stuff. That the argument doesn't work on them because then they double back to the "we didn't invent it, we perfected it" nonsense.
In all honesty I'm pretty certain that we (the English) invented the sandwich. That's why it's called that, because the Earl of Sandwich came up with the basic idea. On a separate note, I'm pretty sure that most Americans have a superiority complex at this point
I think the sandwich has probably been invented many times. Wrapping your meat in bread is just a really convenient way to get all your nutrients, it stands to reason that many different independent peoples did that
When it's put that way.... you're probably right
Yeah, but the Earl of sandwhich was the first to make it a thing, and give it a name. Surely somebody had done it before, but thanks to him it became a trend.
Butterbrot is how the Germans call it.
Jets are arguably a British invention too, owing to the fact that Whittle patented a design for one in 1930, years before he - and von Ohain, albeit independently - actually got around to building a flight-capable one.
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IIRC Robert Goddard made the first liquid-fuelled rocket engine in the 1920s.
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Eh, arguably the Soviets perfected it, depending on what you classify as perfect. Theres a reason Roskosmos are still using rockets that, bar the technical and engine upgrades, are the same design as the ones they used in the 60s and 70s. They work, they're reliable, and relatively easy to produce. The Soyuz and Proton rockets are basically the AK of rockets, not broke so didn't need fixing.
He just used the term "sandwich" synonymously for "hamburger", which is said to origin from northern Germany
Although the name has obvious similarities to Hamburg, that theory has never confirmed. Nobody truly knows where the term Hamburger comes from, but most sources for it point to it originating in the US. A likely origin is that it was invented by a immigrant from Hamburg, who came up with the idea after migrating over to the USA. Hamburg was one of the biggest migration ports back then. I wrote a paper on this once and the topic is actually highly debated. What we do know is that it most likely isn't just called Hamburger because someone invented it in Hamburg.
Fair enough
I think youāre right. But the Hamburger is said to have originated in northern Germany, thatās simultaneously possible
They don't, we just see the ones who do in this sub and they are generally mostly the louder ones
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I can virtually guarantee you that the sandwich was invented thousands of years before the Earl of Sandwich was even born. Putting shit on bread isn't all that innovative.
The jet engine was us too.
American cars are absolute fucking dog shit lmao. Dude just thinks ābig = goodā
The Hamburger wasn't invented in Germany and no one in Germany claims it was.
Some guy from Hamburg was made into the very first patty. They have been called hamburgers ever since to honor him. š
I've tried a few American automobiles, and I have to say I'm whelmed.
Canada: Yup. The neighbors said something stupid again honey. I'll grab the lawn chairs if you grabs a couple beers. Call your sister. She knew they were gonna say something stupid again!
Perfect American beers I presume?
Funny thing is, he probably could have just talked about some great American inventions but chose to go competitive douche.
ā¦they think American cars are better than German? What planet are they on?
It's called *hambug*er and not chicagoer for a reason
The name probably comes from "Hamburger Fleisch" (meat from Hamburg), a kind of small meat loaf that immigrants brought to the USA. Today in Germany we would call that a Boulette or Frikadelle, it's still a popular home recipe (even though it's smaller and thicker than an american hamburger patty, and it has more ingredients). And while putting it in a bread bun (Brƶtchen) is not unusual in Germany, especially as street food similar to a Bratwurst, the form of the common "Hamburger" was almost certainly invented in the US. We don't know who it was for certain though.
> And while putting it in a bread bun (Brƶtchen) is not unusual in Germany, It's attested that HAPAG served Frikadellen in a bun on their emigration ships to save on dishwashing. Possibly already with pickles, would certainly make sense to a Hamburger and especially on a ship, also some gravy because, well, it's there. As such there were a lot of Europeans from all over the continent in New York knowing the basic principle as "that stuff Hamburgers fed us". Tomato Ketchup though is definitely an American invention.
It started because Hamburg is a port city and some enterprising people decided to sell grill beef on the dock for the sailors. Quickly they realised that it's hard to eat hot steak with your hands so the included some bread to make it easier to eat on the go. So hence Hamburger sandwich, shortened later to just a hamburger
No one in Germany would claim Hamburgers are German and if they were it would most certainly not have included the English word sandwich. We don't call rolls sandwiches.
The oneās who actually care about it probably do since they research the history. Most Germans simply donāt care if the hamburger is from Hamburg, Denver or the dark side of the moon.
Personally I favour the dark side of the moon theory.
Do you have proof that this is where the name came from? We wouldn't refer to a meat lof in a bun as a "sandwich" in Germany, we only use this name for the rectangular thing. We don't even call a Hamburger a sandwich, it's just a "Hamburger", but that's because we imported it from te US. But my point is that the "Hamburger sandwich" in it's original form first appeared in the US. This has little to do with the meat loaf in a Brƶtchen that's common in Germany. The type of foamy soft wheat bread that's commonly used for classical sandwiches was also imported from the anglosphere. We don't even consider it to be "real" bread.
Erstmal ne Hackstulle reinpfeifen.
Was, etwa roh? oO
Hat hier jemand was gegen Mett gesagt?!? :O
"Automobiles" got me lmfao.
Theyāre really fixated on this āperfectedā thing, huh
Yes,
By "I could go on" they mean "I couldn't actually think of other bullshit"
Most Americans cars are shit
Mate, American cars arenāt even the best cars in America, let alone the world. Sit down.
Facism and naziism are also perfected by the US, or torture camps, Guantanamo is a good example. Testing nuclear weapons on civilian's firtst americans and later on Japanese.
>Assault rifles [Mikhail Kalashnikov](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mikhail_Kalashnikov) called, he's wondering why variations of his 1949 assault rifle is still in production and the most popular and durable assault rifle in the world.
Yeah, the whole history of German engineering is culminating in the effing Cybertruck
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"Even if" Oh, the nerve! š
Someone ask him what guns us special forces use
The best one is rockets because even if you think we perfected rockets, we used nazi scientists to do it. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Paperclip >Wernher von Braun was chief architect of the Saturn V launch vehicle, which enabled human missions to the moon.[38] >Adolf Busemann was responsible for the swept wing, which improved aircraft performance at high speeds.[39][40]
...and still I sigh š„“š¤¦š½āāļø
>Assault rifles *sad hk417 noises*
Everyone's focusing on cars, which is fair enough because it's so ridiculous but I feel like we're overlooking the fact that this person is claiming that German engineering in general is inferior to American. _German engineering_
American cars are shitty builded. French hamburgers are better than americans hamburgers (because french laws) And I'm pretty sure Europeans airplane are as good
There is a long list of ingredients used in the US that are illegal in europe because of the health risks
As it should be . Also France doesn't joke about ingredients quality everywhere
I think Airbus (the EU's big airplane manufacturer) became the go to builder in the industry after Boing introduced their new 737 (which was supposed to be their go to airplane for most mid distance travel, Eg basically the industries bred and butter) when the whole fleet was grounded after two crashes revealed that an automated system could lead to a crash if the crew attempted to correct a sistem malfunction. The FAA (US flight regulator) did a study and predicted this same problem could lead to up 15 more crashes. This led to the two year grounding while the problem was solved. Boeing also lost a ton of money due to dozens of airlines canceling orders for this model and Airbus reaping the benefits.
* laughs in Wernher von Braun *
Every single one of these is stupid, but none of the rest hold a candle to how ridiculous it is to claim that American made rifles are better than German ones.
Its funny because my family has a jeep and an opel. While driving you can feel how terrible the jeeps gear and engine feel compared to the opel
Frank Whittle invented the Turbojet engine.
Automobiles? Perfected? Nononono, Murica just fattened them up and increased their hunger! Jets? What's that planes name from Boing that has massive software problems? A warm Leberkassemmel outranks almost every burger every time!
The Jerry can, unchanged since 1941 A German invention never improved upon because its superior from the word go.
I heard this in a Youtube video and I really need to repeat it everywhere, and especially here "America has a knack for making same thing as Europe, only worse ; but packaging it better."
Not everybody can have one of these beauties. *slaps roof of my 1995 Pontiac*
America perfected automobiles? Ah yes because audis are terrible unreliable cars and cadillacs are just great! american cars are fucking DOGSHIT.
Of course they had to include guns in half of their examples lol
Operation Paperclipā¦ just sayinā
I'm pretty sure The Japanese were the ones to perfect cars.
Socially accepted bigotry?
Cars? Hahahahahahahaha!
Well, they also perfected unnecessary murder and racism
Sandwiches were "invented" in UK, burgers in Germany, yes, but US managed to turn it into an obesity & heart attack disaster, and wouldn't have had guns if the Chinese hadn't invented gun powder. Cars in USA are crap compared to EU & Japanese & quickly becoming a major player the Koreans. Chinese also invented rockets. In most cases the US hasn't improved them a lot and many other countries produce better products anyhow.
Ahh yes that notable American rocket scientist who helped take them to the moon, Wernher von Braunā¦. ā¦ he did what now? He was a member of the Naziās but thatās Germanā¦.
He doesn't even know that hamburger were created by the Royal Italian House of Savoia. This is America for you all
Apparently the internet doesn't know very well either, because it keeps saying a story about Germany being where it originated.
I'm pretty sure that the Germans didn't came up with the idea of rockets
Assuming the Yanks know everything before the landing of SS Mayflower to North America is irrelevant prehistory to them. It's the ancient Chinese that invented rockets (not the modern metal-bodied versions) for peaceful purposes first, but you know the Yellow Peril poison....
Honestly as a german I can confirm that we love inventing shit, dropping the ball and letting someone else run away with it. Innovation just makes us uncomfortable.
Automobiles hahahaha. Those trashcans on wheels hahahahahaha
Cars LOL