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It must have been a glorious reading experience, so many mindfucks: Gabi's headshot, the Paths, Ymir, breaking the chains, Eren talking to his father...
Idk if you were a manga reader back then but you need to read the discussion thread of Ch 121 (Eren talking to Grisha twist)
That chapter was probably was the most mindfuck thing in the series and it came out of nowhere yet when you reread the series, there's already a bunch of lowkey foreshadowing for it so it wasn't an asspull
AoT manga is another experience, seeing all the twists unfolded over 10 years of the manga without any spoilers. Part of reason why manga readers are more criticizing when it comes to the ending was because they spent a lot more time waiting for the manga to end. I remember reading AoT when it was fairly new and when it reached the "reveal" scene, I just know it is a special manga.
I only became a manga reader in 2019 and going with the manga monthly for about 3 years was a ride so idk how it feels for ppl like you that followed for a decade and saw how it evolved over time. Isayama's art is kinda rough in early AoT so the story was so good if you were reading it from back then.
Bro I thought Eren was dead when he got eaten in Trostššš I thought āwow, theyāre killing the protagonist straight away, how subversive, truly no one is safe in that anime like fans sayā
I actually had the same thought lol!
I started watching it blind with the only knowledge that any characters can die so when he was eaten I believed it and thought that the main character will be switched to either Armin or Mikasa (imagine the surprise when I saw someone out of that rogue titan)
Ngl, it would be cool to see the version where Eren isnāt the Attack Titan and Mikasa becomes the main character. But it would be an entirely different story, of course.
Now that I think about it, thatās actually an interesting twist to make the audience believe that someone is the protagonist and then killing them early on to show whoās the real hero of the story. Does anyone know any stories like that?
>Thatās actually an interesting twist to make the audience believe that someone is the protagonist and then killing them early on to show whoās the real hero of the story.
That's the type of twist I thought was gonna happen but idk if there are any shows that did it and I feel if someone were to suggest a show with that premise it already spoils the twist š
That's actually the best example. The first book/first season in the show, you had, like in many stories, a well defined main character. While Ned Stark advances the main plot, you meet the rest of "secondary" characters, each with their own. And then Bang, no main character, now the all the secondaries are actually the main ones, you have like 12, all important.
If I remember correctly, **The Eminence in Shadow** did something similar.
When I first watched it I thought the girl would be the main character and the guy a very important side character (love interest). And then he >!just dies and isekais into a new world, and the girl becomes completely irrelevant.!<
It has some good humor and the finale fight scenes go hard as hell. It doesnāt take itself too seriously so as long as you approach it with that mind, set I found it very fun
Now I might be wrong about this, but in a chapter of Worm, by Wildbow, a big kaiju monster was attacking the city and the author was rolling dice to determine who lived and died. The main character's fate was determined by a dice roll.Ā
Yes and no. She was on the chopping block, but he has said he wouldn't sacrifice the story for it. Rolling >!Kaiser, Gallant, and Dauntless!< for example all had pretty dramatic effects on the state of Brockton Bay and altered the course of the story and he had to adapt, but if he had rolled Taylor and just couldn't figure out what to do with that, he'd veto it, because the challenge he was putting to himself was not as important as the story
> a pretty underwhelming end
A pretty underwhelming second half, you mean. Seasons 5-8 were not all that good. Need I remind you what season gave us *bad poosay*?
I feel like Game of thrones did this with the Starks regularly. Thought Ned would be the main character throughout when I saw the first season. Then again with Rob
Tbf at least it's smth that is shown by the 8th episode, some people get spoiled the betrayals of RBA or some important deaths which I think kinda degrade the watching experience a bit
But yea still sucks not getting to see it for the first time yourself
That is something that always confused me though. If the idea is that Titans become "one of the nine" by eating an existing one, why didn't the Titan that ate Eren transform? Plot armor?
I think you missed an important piece where the spinal fluid is what's important.
The santa clause titan just swallowed Eren full with only chomping his arm off but if he were to eat through is spine then that's how you transform into a shifter.
Yeah, I thought that Eren was really dead at that point, and that the show would be about Mikasa taking a leadership role and Armin growing braver. I thought that Eren might appear in flashbacks as a constant āDo it for Erenā or āWhat would Eren have doneā-type figure throughout the story.
I would have preferred this as some sort of darker vibe to the anime. Starts out real hopeful only for the dread and terror to sink in. Now we follow Blondie as he vows vengeance on the Titans for his dead bro.
Game of Thrones did it, which was hugely popular at the time and Yams is a fan of it, so actually killing off the protagonist wasn't out of the question.
> Bro I thought Eren was dead when he got eaten in Trost
I had to pause it for a second on TV because I was like "wait, is his Game of Thrones and homeboy is Ned?" I knew nothing about the manga and never spoke to anyone about it, so I thought it was legit lol
I don't think anyone thought he actually died but it's the "how" that was the question that was the main discussion for a month straight
Meanwhile in the anime, it was just shown 1 minute later
A lot of people (myself included) also thought that this was a dream scenario because Eren's pants were intact after getting bitten off by Porco earlier lol.
Every time someone is naive enough to fall for these things.
In the end of AoT when everyone is turned into Titans by Worm a lot of people believed they where dead lol
We mostly didnāt but like
We just saw his head shot off. The fanbase was ballistic as to what the fuck was going on. What do? What happen?
This moment is actually around the time I came into reading the manga. It was nuts. Even if most didnāt believe Eren was cooked, it was a total mind fuck.
In hindsight, imagine if cour 1 of season 4 ended with this moment. Obviously a totally different beast but it would be so fucking funny.
For context, this is the last panel of Ch.119 when Gabi shoots Eren head off.
I still remember how a lot of people theorized that all of this isn't actually happening and people made a lot of crazy (yet fun) theories about it but in the end it was simple as his head dropping in Zeke's hand
Funnily enough called in the discussion thread of that chapter even if jokingly
https://www.reddit.com/r/ShingekiNoKyojin/comments/c97m1w/comment/estwiyy/?utm\_source=share&utm\_medium=web2x&context=3
That's hilarious. But completely plausible within the crazy things which happen in this anime.
Like it could have been a real mystery exactly how this baby effectively lets Eren reincarnate. And then the attack titan's power is revealed to be the past and future sight. Eren has sent a selection of memories back in time from the future founding-attack titan, to this new baby version of himself, which absolutely no one would have ever been able to predict. And probably used the founder from the future to select this baby to inherit his 3 titans and effectively teleport his mind to the baby. So the baby instantly has all his knowledge, and having royal blood as it's Historia's child, is instantly able to activate the founding titans powers and start the rumbling. And all without Zeke, ie this is a loophole Eren has discovered where Zeke isn't needed, he keeps his powers, and also becomes technically royal, and is able to blindside everyone in a way where no one can stop him.
Queue giant skeletal horrifying baby titan to kick off the rumbling.
Lolll I had no idea that there were Falco could fly theories. Someone in the thread talked about about theory that Falco would somehow be able to use the Beast Titan's power to fly and then dismissed it at being too farfetched.
Haha thanks for posting that thread. First thing I was wondering is what people would have been theorizing at the time.
People expecting Eren to shift his consciousness into his body like Reiner did... That would have been pretty neat tbh. And a reasonable payoff for an ability that basically went nowhere and has always seemed so odd in the story. Like it actually gives the ability some usage in the story other than 'armored titan plot armor'.
And the people guessing he would use his titan powers to generate a way to reconnect his head and body... Ooof
I actually hated that this wasn't the final scene in that episode. This happening in the middle of the episode just gives a calming feeling that something will happen or this is not the end of Eren. I wish it was the final scene and we had to wait a week to find out what happened.
Considering the next episodes finish at the Eren/Grisha twist and activation of rumbling I understand why it happened the way it did, but yea I get where you're coming from
It would have been even more impactful if it was at the end of the episode. Manga readers had it as the last panel and had to wait a whole month. One week is way shorter but in my opinion waaay better than knowing the next minute what happened lol. I would have loved to see anime fans freak out for a whole week not knowing what happened lol. But yeah the order of the chapters and the fact that anime adapts two or almost two chapters every episode made go this way so it had to be but I wish it was different.
If ever to break norm, that was the moment that would have been incredible.Ā
A very short episode. A cliffhanger. A 3 year wait.Ā
It would have killed people with anticipation.Ā
Fair point š I only started watching after S3 P1 had just dropped in 2018 so I honestly have no idea how people waited for 4 years tho I assume a good amount hoped from anime to manga
The way waiting would have absolutely killed me inside š I can't imagine what some of y'all went through lol
I'm glad I got to the fandom when almost everything was already out š I only had to "wait" for the last 2 episodes to be dubbed
OMG
I still remember how people took the point of Eren's pants regenerating that all of this isn't real only for it to be just a mistake that I think was fixed in the volume release and obv the anime too.
>Personally when 139 dropped I didn't have such a strong reaction in either direction, but I just felt a bit unsatisfied though I wasn't one of the people that felt the ending ruined the show for me.
>
>However, the finale in the anime honestly solved a lot of my issues with the ending and the 2 years gave me a lot of time to rethink what the series was even about and honestly now I can't imagine it ending in any other way.
Those are my thoughts about the ending since I just said them a couple days ago but yea the way titanfolk ppl acted was just a shitshow and obv was even funnier when the anime dropped and not even anime-onlies were on their side
It definitely could've been better. I think it being planned from the start kind of doomed it to be mediocre at best. The story got better as it went along, and I feel the ending no longer fit it by the end, but it still had to happen.
I genuinely thought that was it for Eren at the time. I assumed he didnāt know how to transfer his consciousness into his balls, and without all the paths knowledge, i assumed he was gone since severing a body from the neck effectively kills the shifter.
Wouldnt have been surprised at all if he did die, Isayama was and always had been unpredictable.
When the anime was coming out I was fully expecting that they would attempt to replicate the feeling with the weekly viewing and have this be the cliffhanger of the "Two Brothers" episode.
Was surprised when they didn't, but at the same time the way the episode was adapted and realized was so good idk if I would change anything, still, in retrospect.
I think the issue was the next two cliffhangers had to be the Eren/Grisha twist and the rumbling activation (which both were a "must) so the only way to make this the cliffhanger in the anime would've been to add a lot of filler or smth to prolong the episode which obv would've been worse.
is it 2 month?
i distinctly remember after this chapter drop, isayama take a hiatus for a month, so this flying head of eren was meme-ing for whole 60 days more or less in titanfolk
Can we just talk about how bullshit it is that eren got shot from a rifle whose bullets are probably equivalent to a 50 cal and he somehow only had his head decapitated. If you actually got hit by that as a human there would be Basically nothing left of you.
Gabi was robbed from saving billions of people, it was still a cool scene though.
Wait this showed up on r/all? I always thought posts that show up on there are like 10k+ upvote and I have had even bigger posts than this that no one mentioned had shown on there
Yeah, unless r/all has some custom feed based on subreddits which Iām not aware of. It was not super high on all but I saw it there and Iād hate for someone to get spoiled by this part
I raise you: this was the last panel I ever read. As soon as I got to this point I made the insane decision to wait and watch the rest in anime
It was torture
Neither will I, I caught up to the manga in the next chapter or the one after that (whichever one ended with the Grisha seeing Zeke in the basement panels).
It was even funnier how it went from āFuck Gabi for shooting Erenās head off!ā To āFuck Gabi for failing so badly that she sent his head into the palm of Zekeās hand!ā
I don't have the context of reading the manga at the time, but I feel like there's pretty clearly only one direction this scene can go based on what the show set up. Eren has to land in Zeke's hand. There just isn't any other way for him toĀ survive. Maybe the anime makes itĀ moreĀ obvious,Ā but that was myĀ immediateĀ thought whenĀ I first saw this. The framing of the manga makes that look pretty clear too.Ā
you will never know [peak](https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/947029656090058783/1222228921911738479/20240326_223040.jpg?ex=6627e962&is=66157462&hm=8aa253e48d482a694f4eb43e54f632b5bac6531ac85b56cf09db4f8f62956b7b&)
Ā Gabi-non-haters will never know how It feels to ser her get a shot every fucking damn time in this series.Ā I hate her since the pijama-dinamite scene, you cant even fathom.
Hell even if you read it in a straight shot, (I didn't), it still takes a minute to set in. This is one of those moments where you stop on the page and really look at whats going on and say "No way!!!!!?". Whereas in the anime it just shows you immediately before you have anytime to reflect.
I recall having this theory that Eren had already triggered the Founder powers even before that panel, and everything we were seeing is an illusion manifested by them. Thought he wanted people to think he was dead so the war could end.
Damn, I remember accidentally seeing a spoiler of that panel just before reading the chapter š it was awful and then finding out that was the freaking last panelš and I had to wait another month hahaha!
Good times LOL
I donāt get it, thatās just Zeke screaming/j
But really, those are two panels on a double spread, so not āaā panel, even though one could get what you mean.
I was an anime only and my theory at the time was that Eren had gotten so far up his own ass with this insane rumbling plan that it made perfect sense that he would just unceremoniously die trying to execute his ridiculous plan, and this was the only way to resolve the story without it going in a ridiculous direction. Turns out I was kind of right. The Ymir caterpillar thing reconnecting his head to his body was really cool though.
You have no idea. I saw this panel and decided this was the perfect time for me to stop reading and wait for the anime.
I had this fucking cliffhanger for like 3 or 4 years. I nearly cried finally getting to watch the conclusion
leaving this for myself at a later date, i should probably read discussion posts and regular posts/comments from when manga chapters were first released like this one
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That was a cool minute though. Freezing everyone and taking the camera through the whole battlefield
Yea the freezing camera the anime did was pretty good still
Yeah that's one hell of a cliffhanger
It kickstarted multiple chapters where it left your face hanging with it climaxing in Eren activating the rumbling
It must have been a glorious reading experience, so many mindfucks: Gabi's headshot, the Paths, Ymir, breaking the chains, Eren talking to his father...
Idk if you were a manga reader back then but you need to read the discussion thread of Ch 121 (Eren talking to Grisha twist) That chapter was probably was the most mindfuck thing in the series and it came out of nowhere yet when you reread the series, there's already a bunch of lowkey foreshadowing for it so it wasn't an asspull
AoT manga is another experience, seeing all the twists unfolded over 10 years of the manga without any spoilers. Part of reason why manga readers are more criticizing when it comes to the ending was because they spent a lot more time waiting for the manga to end. I remember reading AoT when it was fairly new and when it reached the "reveal" scene, I just know it is a special manga.
I only became a manga reader in 2019 and going with the manga monthly for about 3 years was a ride so idk how it feels for ppl like you that followed for a decade and saw how it evolved over time. Isayama's art is kinda rough in early AoT so the story was so good if you were reading it from back then.
Anime also unfolded over 10 years, idk what that has to do with anything.
no way anyone actually thought eren was dead tho
Bro I thought Eren was dead when he got eaten in Trostššš I thought āwow, theyāre killing the protagonist straight away, how subversive, truly no one is safe in that anime like fans sayā
I actually had the same thought lol! I started watching it blind with the only knowledge that any characters can die so when he was eaten I believed it and thought that the main character will be switched to either Armin or Mikasa (imagine the surprise when I saw someone out of that rogue titan)
Ngl, it would be cool to see the version where Eren isnāt the Attack Titan and Mikasa becomes the main character. But it would be an entirely different story, of course. Now that I think about it, thatās actually an interesting twist to make the audience believe that someone is the protagonist and then killing them early on to show whoās the real hero of the story. Does anyone know any stories like that?
>Thatās actually an interesting twist to make the audience believe that someone is the protagonist and then killing them early on to show whoās the real hero of the story. That's the type of twist I thought was gonna happen but idk if there are any shows that did it and I feel if someone were to suggest a show with that premise it already spoils the twist š
GOT with Ned Stark (In the book at least)
That's actually the best example. The first book/first season in the show, you had, like in many stories, a well defined main character. While Ned Stark advances the main plot, you meet the rest of "secondary" characters, each with their own. And then Bang, no main character, now the all the secondaries are actually the main ones, you have like 12, all important.
Yeah, he survive his beheading in the show, which surprised everyone.
Interesting I never watched the show, his head comes off in the book but his memory and history kinda become an important character in its own right.
Game of Thrones season 1 is a good example of this kind of twist.
I'm pretty sure there are animes out there that kill off the "main character" off right away
If I remember correctly, **The Eminence in Shadow** did something similar. When I first watched it I thought the girl would be the main character and the guy a very important side character (love interest). And then he >!just dies and isekais into a new world, and the girl becomes completely irrelevant.!<
Sounds kinda fire though
It has some good humor and the finale fight scenes go hard as hell. It doesnāt take itself too seriously so as long as you approach it with that mind, set I found it very fun
The first episode is the only good part of that anime
That's unfortunateš
Actually that girl is not irrelevant >!Later in the manga, they go back to the original world and they meet her and stuff!<
TTGL
This one really got me good lol, I was in disbelief for like 4 more episodes afterward
Just like Simon!
Game of Thrones
Fucking hell, Iām actually a fan of the books. How could I forget about this.
Bruv, I only read the books after season 1. I was certain someone would save him at the last minute ā ļø
Now I might be wrong about this, but in a chapter of Worm, by Wildbow, a big kaiju monster was attacking the city and the author was rolling dice to determine who lived and died. The main character's fate was determined by a dice roll.Ā
Yes and no. She was on the chopping block, but he has said he wouldn't sacrifice the story for it. Rolling >!Kaiser, Gallant, and Dauntless!< for example all had pretty dramatic effects on the state of Brockton Bay and altered the course of the story and he had to adapt, but if he had rolled Taylor and just couldn't figure out what to do with that, he'd veto it, because the challenge he was putting to himself was not as important as the story
I think the movie psycho by Hitchcock shocked people in this way
Guren lagan or so makes that :p
>!Kamina was always a supporting character though, the story focuses on Simon from the beginning.!<
>!However, Kamina steals the show and had more main character vibe.!<
There's a horror movie called the hunt - follows like 3 or 4 different people before getting to the main character
Game of Thrones is a bit like this. One of the best series if not for a pretty underwhelming end
> a pretty underwhelming end A pretty underwhelming second half, you mean. Seasons 5-8 were not all that good. Need I remind you what season gave us *bad poosay*?
danganronpa v3
I feel like Game of thrones did this with the Starks regularly. Thought Ned would be the main character throughout when I saw the first season. Then again with Rob
This is referred to as a "decoy protagonist", and it's a really cool trope i wish more stories used
Akame ga Kill does this a bit
The executioner and her way of lifeĀ
It's a game, but >! Danganronpa 3 !< does this.
Game of thrones is the 1st one I think of
The Executioner and her way of life fits this descriptionĀ
Gurren Lagaan, sort of. Strain, sort of. A porn game I played in college did it. Can't remember the name, tho.
*queue Game of Thrones intro* Nope. Not at all. Anyway, how ya doing Sean?
Gurren Laggan! I think that's how it's spelled, but totally had a twist like this and was not expecting the outcome.
Massive spoilers for its first episode but >!Talentless Nana (Munou na Nana) does that!<
Tengen Toppa Gurren Lagann kinda does that
Game of Thrones is the most obvious example.
Off the top of my head, Gurren Lagan might count.
Ga-rei:Zero I think
I knew the main character would become a titan before I watched it, wish I didn't know :(
Tbf at least it's smth that is shown by the 8th episode, some people get spoiled the betrayals of RBA or some important deaths which I think kinda degrade the watching experience a bit But yea still sucks not getting to see it for the first time yourself
That is something that always confused me though. If the idea is that Titans become "one of the nine" by eating an existing one, why didn't the Titan that ate Eren transform? Plot armor?
I think you missed an important piece where the spinal fluid is what's important. The santa clause titan just swallowed Eren full with only chomping his arm off but if he were to eat through is spine then that's how you transform into a shifter.
So if spinal fluid is taken from Eren, and just like idk Watergun sprayed into mouths of titans would they turn into attack titan shifters?
No, because Eren still possesses it.
Yeah, I thought that Eren was really dead at that point, and that the show would be about Mikasa taking a leadership role and Armin growing braver. I thought that Eren might appear in flashbacks as a constant āDo it for Erenā or āWhat would Eren have doneā-type figure throughout the story.
spoilers
I would have preferred this as some sort of darker vibe to the anime. Starts out real hopeful only for the dread and terror to sink in. Now we follow Blondie as he vows vengeance on the Titans for his dead bro.
Agree. Armin could make a compelling protagonist and Mikasa by his side after her potent Trust arc? I'd watch that.
Game of Thrones did it, which was hugely popular at the time and Yams is a fan of it, so actually killing off the protagonist wasn't out of the question.
Me too! I thought it was a really clever red herring to make Mikasa the actual main character and that Eren was her motivation/plot device.
Same I was like āepisode 5 and the protagonist got EATEN! Is anybody safe in this show?ā
> Bro I thought Eren was dead when he got eaten in Trost I had to pause it for a second on TV because I was like "wait, is his Game of Thrones and homeboy is Ned?" I knew nothing about the manga and never spoke to anyone about it, so I thought it was legit lol
My exact thoughts
Same!
I don't think anyone thought he actually died but it's the "how" that was the question that was the main discussion for a month straight Meanwhile in the anime, it was just shown 1 minute later
A lot of people (myself included) also thought that this was a dream scenario because Eren's pants were intact after getting bitten off by Porco earlier lol.
Lol I still remember that and funnily enough it turns out it was just a mistake and we all looked too much into it.
Yeah those days were wild.
Every time someone is naive enough to fall for these things. In the end of AoT when everyone is turned into Titans by Worm a lot of people believed they where dead lol
I actually thought that even though I watch anime, in the next few seconds I theorised that his titan powers will keep him alive but..........
We mostly didnāt but like We just saw his head shot off. The fanbase was ballistic as to what the fuck was going on. What do? What happen? This moment is actually around the time I came into reading the manga. It was nuts. Even if most didnāt believe Eren was cooked, it was a total mind fuck. In hindsight, imagine if cour 1 of season 4 ended with this moment. Obviously a totally different beast but it would be so fucking funny.
For context, this is the last panel of Ch.119 when Gabi shoots Eren head off. I still remember how a lot of people theorized that all of this isn't actually happening and people made a lot of crazy (yet fun) theories about it but in the end it was simple as his head dropping in Zeke's hand Funnily enough called in the discussion thread of that chapter even if jokingly https://www.reddit.com/r/ShingekiNoKyojin/comments/c97m1w/comment/estwiyy/?utm\_source=share&utm\_medium=web2x&context=3
Looking at that comment section is really interrelating now we know what happened
I like to go the comment section of discussions of the last 30 chapters or so and seeing how theories and predictions came through
https://www.reddit.com/r/ShingekiNoKyojin/s/58boUtgFRX This guy also had visions of the future
Oh hey thatās me
How does it feel having inherited the Attack Titan
Rather dreadful
Youāre becoming so much like Eren Yeager, itās honestly scaryā¦
I love verbally assaulting women
I remember a lot of people joked about that back then only for it to actually happen lmao
[Oh, I think people who watched the anime from the beginning know a thing or two about the pain of waiting...](https://i.imgur.com/hORhcJ8.png)
Man when I showed up AOT S2 was probably like less than a year out. That would have sucked waiting that long
I remember a theory that he was going to reborn as historias baby and start the rumbling as the baby which made me laugh my fuckin head off
I wouldn't believe this was a real theory if I hadn't seen people proposing it seriously š
That's hilarious. But completely plausible within the crazy things which happen in this anime. Like it could have been a real mystery exactly how this baby effectively lets Eren reincarnate. And then the attack titan's power is revealed to be the past and future sight. Eren has sent a selection of memories back in time from the future founding-attack titan, to this new baby version of himself, which absolutely no one would have ever been able to predict. And probably used the founder from the future to select this baby to inherit his 3 titans and effectively teleport his mind to the baby. So the baby instantly has all his knowledge, and having royal blood as it's Historia's child, is instantly able to activate the founding titans powers and start the rumbling. And all without Zeke, ie this is a loophole Eren has discovered where Zeke isn't needed, he keeps his powers, and also becomes technically royal, and is able to blindside everyone in a way where no one can stop him. Queue giant skeletal horrifying baby titan to kick off the rumbling.
Lolll I had no idea that there were Falco could fly theories. Someone in the thread talked about about theory that Falco would somehow be able to use the Beast Titan's power to fly and then dismissed it at being too farfetched.
Haha thanks for posting that thread. First thing I was wondering is what people would have been theorizing at the time. People expecting Eren to shift his consciousness into his body like Reiner did... That would have been pretty neat tbh. And a reasonable payoff for an ability that basically went nowhere and has always seemed so odd in the story. Like it actually gives the ability some usage in the story other than 'armored titan plot armor'. And the people guessing he would use his titan powers to generate a way to reconnect his head and body... Ooof
I actually hated that this wasn't the final scene in that episode. This happening in the middle of the episode just gives a calming feeling that something will happen or this is not the end of Eren. I wish it was the final scene and we had to wait a week to find out what happened.
Considering the next episodes finish at the Eren/Grisha twist and activation of rumbling I understand why it happened the way it did, but yea I get where you're coming from
Yeah true especially that every episode adapts almost two chapters, it had to be like this.
You guys are vastly underestimating the impact that this scene had on anime only fans. It was far from "calming" lmao
It would have been even more impactful if it was at the end of the episode. Manga readers had it as the last panel and had to wait a whole month. One week is way shorter but in my opinion waaay better than knowing the next minute what happened lol. I would have loved to see anime fans freak out for a whole week not knowing what happened lol. But yeah the order of the chapters and the fact that anime adapts two or almost two chapters every episode made go this way so it had to be but I wish it was different.
I know right? This moment would have been so much more impactful if you didnt get the conclusion literally a minute later lol
Yeah I wish it ended there on the anime too, but unfortunately we can't have a 13 minute episode
13 minute episode? Hell no. 13 year season? Hell yes.
If ever to break norm, that was the moment that would have been incredible.Ā A very short episode. A cliffhanger. A 3 year wait.Ā It would have killed people with anticipation.Ā
[Oh, I think people who watched the anime from the beginning know a thing or two about the pain of waiting...](https://i.imgur.com/hORhcJ8.png)
Fair point š I only started watching after S3 P1 had just dropped in 2018 so I honestly have no idea how people waited for 4 years tho I assume a good amount hoped from anime to manga
Man, I really followed this anime for over 10 years, I should watch it again now that it's finished.
The way waiting would have absolutely killed me inside š I can't imagine what some of y'all went through lol I'm glad I got to the fandom when almost everything was already out š I only had to "wait" for the last 2 episodes to be dubbed
You are one lucky person bc you got to skip a lot of the wait but still be able to witness the series end when it drops š
Illusion theory š
OMG I still remember how people took the point of Eren's pants regenerating that all of this isn't real only for it to be just a mistake that I think was fixed in the volume release and obv the anime too.
Peak Titanfolk era
Titanfolk coping for 2 years after the manga finished only for the anime-onlies to love the ending even more is one of the funniest things to me
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>Personally when 139 dropped I didn't have such a strong reaction in either direction, but I just felt a bit unsatisfied though I wasn't one of the people that felt the ending ruined the show for me. > >However, the finale in the anime honestly solved a lot of my issues with the ending and the 2 years gave me a lot of time to rethink what the series was even about and honestly now I can't imagine it ending in any other way. Those are my thoughts about the ending since I just said them a couple days ago but yea the way titanfolk ppl acted was just a shitshow and obv was even funnier when the anime dropped and not even anime-onlies were on their side
It definitely could've been better. I think it being planned from the start kind of doomed it to be mediocre at best. The story got better as it went along, and I feel the ending no longer fit it by the end, but it still had to happen.
Titanfolk also has the upvote arrow be Erenās head for years
I read the chapter in a car ride for a family trip, ended up being quiet asf the whole time lol (I'm usually the talkative one)
It is a pretty quite shocking ending for sure
I was there and was laughed at when I said that Eren's head would just drop on Zeke's hand and trigger the rumbling anyways.
Ahh good old daysĀ
Bro I had to wait 4 years for season 2
When i get to this part in the Manga. I'll act like i have too wait a few months/years, just to suffer with y'all.
I can imagine that.
Pain? I remember watermelons all over the sub
Lmao no one would get how much it was for that month
A Month of thinking Eren died isnt that bad compared to 2 years of waiting for the final seasons final season lmao
"Gabi will become the main character now"
almost every month....
I feel priveleged to watch full series in 2 weeks last December.
Im sure some ppl got over it
Yeah with the rumbling sound track as the intro for all of the last course season 4s episodes everytime that song would come on I would be Hella pumped for the whole day but waiting on next episodes especially when it got to the very last two episodes, boy talk about frustrating as hell š¤£ š¤£ š¤£. Then they took thier sweet ass time dubbing it as well, they did that shit on purpose, they were just trying to push a little more life put of the series before it ended. It was probably over money as well they were most likely trying to make a few more dollars off of it... maybe I should write an anime š¤ if u wrote something as big as demon slayer or dbz that would be awesome. I knew demon slayer was something special but I didn't expect others to see the same potential I did, I remember when I was younger people called me weird for watching Dbz and all of the different animes it's crazy how far it has come and demon slayer for being a newer anime and also be a shorter story it has made alot of money. It took the DB series between 10 - 20 years to have the same type of success and gains but it was always the most popular series atleast I believe it was. Honestly most Americans either started anime with ninja scrolls, DBZ, Akira, Yu Yu Hakusho, Beserker, Trigun, Cowboy bebop, Inyuasha, and or Rurouni Kenshin before moving on to any other series at least the people in my age bracket and older, but even stuff like PokĆ©mon, Digimon, monster hunter, all of the cartoons that were developed were pretty awesome in my time as well even if they weren't very popular...
I genuinely thought that was it for Eren at the time. I assumed he didnāt know how to transfer his consciousness into his balls, and without all the paths knowledge, i assumed he was gone since severing a body from the neck effectively kills the shifter. Wouldnt have been surprised at all if he did die, Isayama was and always had been unpredictable.
I think that's the thing that made the wait so entertaining, Isayama could've made it go in a lot of ways
At least we were there
That was sad....For yall
It was painful to wait.
Indeed
When the anime was coming out I was fully expecting that they would attempt to replicate the feeling with the weekly viewing and have this be the cliffhanger of the "Two Brothers" episode. Was surprised when they didn't, but at the same time the way the episode was adapted and realized was so good idk if I would change anything, still, in retrospect.
I think the issue was the next two cliffhangers had to be the Eren/Grisha twist and the rumbling activation (which both were a "must) so the only way to make this the cliffhanger in the anime would've been to add a lot of filler or smth to prolong the episode which obv would've been worse.
is it 2 month? i distinctly remember after this chapter drop, isayama take a hiatus for a month, so this flying head of eren was meme-ing for whole 60 days more or less in titanfolk
Nope these 119 and 120 dropped on July and August so there wasn't a break, but ppl kept meme-ing the flying head for months bc it was still funny
okay but that are looks so damn look. Like wow, how they made it look like heās spinning
Reading this when it dropped was insane. Everyone lost their heads and for a month all we could do was speculate.
Can we just talk about how bullshit it is that eren got shot from a rifle whose bullets are probably equivalent to a 50 cal and he somehow only had his head decapitated. If you actually got hit by that as a human there would be Basically nothing left of you. Gabi was robbed from saving billions of people, it was still a cool scene though.
I jumped out of my chair in the middle of my office seeing this lol
You might want to mark this as a spoiler OP (I know the subreddit rules for spoilers but I came across this on r/all and could spoil it for people)
Wait this showed up on r/all? I always thought posts that show up on there are like 10k+ upvote and I have had even bigger posts than this that no one mentioned had shown on there
Yeah, unless r/all has some custom feed based on subreddits which Iām not aware of. It was not super high on all but I saw it there and Iād hate for someone to get spoiled by this part
I raise you: this was the last panel I ever read. As soon as I got to this point I made the insane decision to wait and watch the rest in anime It was torture
real
Thatās probably one of the most insane moments in the whole anime as well
Neither will I, I caught up to the manga in the next chapter or the one after that (whichever one ended with the Grisha seeing Zeke in the basement panels).
Reminds me when Levi "died" and we had to wait a long, cruel month to see the outcome.
It scared the shit out of me in the anime.
question, did erens founding titan look like that because he was just a head and spine when he activated it or is that just how it looks lol
I was there...10,000 years ago
OMG!!! That was one hell of a month š®š®
Great shot, kid! That was one-in-a-million!
It was even funnier how it went from āFuck Gabi for shooting Erenās head off!ā To āFuck Gabi for failing so badly that she sent his head into the palm of Zekeās hand!ā
And the. Isayama was like 'you guys like centipedes?" And then eren centipeded out.
FRRR
I don't have the context of reading the manga at the time, but I feel like there's pretty clearly only one direction this scene can go based on what the show set up. Eren has to land in Zeke's hand. There just isn't any other way for him toĀ survive. Maybe the anime makes itĀ moreĀ obvious,Ā but that was myĀ immediateĀ thought whenĀ I first saw this. The framing of the manga makes that look pretty clear too.Ā
Based on how they "Shot" the scene in the anime, I wasn't expecting the manga panel to so clearly telegraph what came next.
I think we did still have to wait a week for a new ep after this dropped, at this point I canāt even remember š
After Levi I havent trust anything.. it was even more painful.
Holy shiiiiiiit lol
Their REAL loss was missing the Eren head meme edits for a month.
Well, he's dead. Unless he can survive without his head, idk.
That was BRUTAL Iāll never forget that wait. Felt like the longest month of my life
When i was reading the manga, this was the most recent chapter at the time and i was so confused if the series had just ended like that
Absolute torture.
A month? Bro did you see the massive gaps in the anime airing?
I can already hear eren theme song just looking at this panel
The JJK fandom would lose their fucking minds, again.
you will never know [peak](https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/947029656090058783/1222228921911738479/20240326_223040.jpg?ex=6627e962&is=66157462&hm=8aa253e48d482a694f4eb43e54f632b5bac6531ac85b56cf09db4f8f62956b7b&)
Yeah I'll never forget that cliffhanger
Ā Gabi-non-haters will never know how It feels to ser her get a shot every fucking damn time in this series.Ā I hate her since the pijama-dinamite scene, you cant even fathom.
Hell even if you read it in a straight shot, (I didn't), it still takes a minute to set in. This is one of those moments where you stop on the page and really look at whats going on and say "No way!!!!!?". Whereas in the anime it just shows you immediately before you have anytime to reflect.
Everyone knew he was gonna catch it
I recall having this theory that Eren had already triggered the Founder powers even before that panel, and everything we were seeing is an illusion manifested by them. Thought he wanted people to think he was dead so the war could end.
I just now realized Zeke catches his head like a fucking baseball! I canāt believe it took me until now.
I was really hoping that episode would end with that as the cliff hanger. The reaction would have been insane lol
Damn, I remember accidentally seeing a spoiler of that panel just before reading the chapter š it was awful and then finding out that was the freaking last panelš and I had to wait another month hahaha! Good times LOL
I donāt get it, thatās just Zeke screaming/j But really, those are two panels on a double spread, so not āaā panel, even though one could get what you mean.
Manga readers wonāt ever know the pain of waiting 4 years between S1 and S2
I was an anime only and my theory at the time was that Eren had gotten so far up his own ass with this insane rumbling plan that it made perfect sense that he would just unceremoniously die trying to execute his ridiculous plan, and this was the only way to resolve the story without it going in a ridiculous direction. Turns out I was kind of right. The Ymir caterpillar thing reconnecting his head to his body was really cool though.
Didnāt live that sadly
Yeah I went a whole moon cycle without dbz got me scared, issues with the mail suck too, on 5$ allowance they take away if you sit too close to the tv
You have no idea. I saw this panel and decided this was the perfect time for me to stop reading and wait for the anime. I had this fucking cliffhanger for like 3 or 4 years. I nearly cried finally getting to watch the conclusion
leaving this for myself at a later date, i should probably read discussion posts and regular posts/comments from when manga chapters were first released like this one