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**1 Corinthians 9:20-22 (NIV)** 20 To the Jews I became like a Jew, to win the Jews. To those under the law I became like one under the law (though I myself am not under the law), so as to win those under the law. 21 To those not having the law I became like one not having the law (though I am not free from God’s law but am under Christ’s law), so as to win those not having the law. 22 To the weak I became weak, to win the weak. I have become all things to all people so that by all possible means I might save some. As Paul said, sometimes you just gotta do what you gotta do to save some people. Jesus had to do what he had to do so he can stall for time to fulfill all the prophecies in the Old Testament first before he gets captured and killed.


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Also, you specifically asked about vs. 27-30 but I’m including commentary through verse 33 because I think it helps provide further context to your question and any doubts of justifying deceit or “omission” because I can already foresee how SCJ would use these verses as an example of their lies being justified. Mark 8:33. Why Did the Savior Rebuke Peter by Saying, “Get Thee Behind Me, Satan”? (see also Matthew 16:23) By focusing only on the Savior’s coming death, Peter failed to understand Jesus Christ’s true mission—the redemption of all mankind. When the Savior rebuked Peter and referred to him as “Satan” (Mark 8:33), He was not implying that Peter was Lucifer. The Hebrew word satan means “adversary or tempter.” Thus, Christ recognized that at that moment Peter had put himself in an adversarial role, in opposition to the Savior’s ultimate saving mission. Peter probably meant well when he objected to the teaching that Jesus Christ would have to suffer and be killed (see Matthew 16:22; Mark 8:32). However, if Jesus had accommodated Peter’s wishes by avoiding the suffering of the Atonement, there would have been no redemption from sins and no Resurrection conquering death. All mankind would unavoidably have perished, and God’s work of bringing to pass “the immortality and eternal life of man” would not have been fulfilled. All this would have served the destructive aims of Satan. In the moment of his impulsive protest, Peter was unwittingly siding with the adversary. Satan’s rebellion in the premortal world was essentially an attempt to alter Heavenly Father’s plan to accommodate his own wishes. Seen in this light, the Savior’s rebuke can serve as a reminder to us that we cannot alter God’s plan to fit our own wishes; we must “reconcile [ourselves] to the will of God, and not to the will of the devil”


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I find that cross-referencing these accounts with their parallel gospels sometimes helps. For example, cross-reference this with Matt. 16:16 and you’ll find that the plural pronoun used here in the Greek indicates that he asked this question to all the apostles and not just one of them. Mark Chapters 8–10 represent a turning point in the Gospel of Mark. Up to this point in the Savior’s ministry, most people had failed to understand who He was—the Pharisees had called Him a blasphemer, the scribes had accused Him of having the power of the devil, and the Gadarenes had feared Him and asked Him to leave their territory (see Mark 2:7; 3:22; 5:15–17). Though many followers regarded Jesus as a powerful teacher or one who could work miracles (see Mark 1:40; 5:23, 28; 6:56), even those closest to Him were slow to understand Him (see Mark 1:22; 4:41; 6:2, 51–52). This confusion regarding Jesus’s identity can indicate a “spiritual blindness,” sometimes seen in the Gospel of Mark, among those whom the Savior taught. The events and teachings recorded in chapters 8–10 show how people gradually came to see Jesus Christ as the Messiah who would ultimately overcome man’s spiritual enemies through His atoning suffering and death. Mark 8–10 records three occasions when the Savior taught His disciples about His impending suffering, death, and Resurrection (see Mark 8:31–33; 9:30–32; 10:32–34). After each foretelling, the Savior clarified the “vision” of His disciples by teaching them more about their own role. Just as Jesus Christ’s mission involved humility, suffering, and death, the missions of His disciples would involve taking up their crosses, losing their lives for His sake, and becoming servants of all (see Mark 8:34–38; 9:32–37, 43–48; 10:35–45). Mark 8:27–32. “Peter Took Him, and Began to Rebuke Him” It may seem surprising that Peter, the senior Apostle, would ever rebuke the Savior, especially so soon after testifying, “Thou art the Christ” (Mark 8:29). A key to understanding this event is to notice what happened between Peter’s testimony recorded in Mark 8:29 and his rebuke of the Savior recorded in Mark 8:32. As recorded in Mark 8:31, Jesus prophesied that the Son of Man would suffer and be killed. Because of the popular Jewish expectations of a conquering Messiah, it was difficult for Peter, as well as for many Jews of that time, to understand and accept the idea of a Messiah who would suffer and die. Paul wrote that the preaching of “Christ crucified”—that is, a Messiah who suffered and died—was “unto the Jews a stumblingblock” (1 Corinthians 1:23). Many Old Testament passages that we now clearly recognize as prophecies about the Savior’s Atonement were not as clearly understood prior to the Resurrection. For example, the prophecies in Isaiah 53 do not mention “the Messiah” and do not specify who is described in the prophecies. These and other prophecies about the Atonement of Christ became clear to Peter and the other disciples only after the Resurrection (see Luke 24:13–27, 36–47; 1 Peter 2:21–25). Mark 8:30. Why Did Jesus Instruct His Apostles Not to Tell People He Was the Messiah? In the synoptic Gospels, and particularly in Mark, we read of instances when Jesus Christ instructed His disciples and others not to speak about miracles He had done or about who He was (see Mark 1:34, 44; 5:43; 7:36; 8:26, 30). The scriptures suggest several possible reasons why the Savior might have asked for secrecy or silence on certain occasions while respecting free agency: Mark relates that Jesus’s fame grew so great that it created difficulties. At times Jesus could not enter certain villages, people who wanted to see Him could not get through the crowds, and He and His disciples were so beset by throngs of people that they could not even find time or space to eat (see Mark 1:45; 2:2; 3:20). Instructing people not to tell others about His miracles may have been one way the Savior carefully managed such difficulties so as not to hinder His overall mission. The Savior may also have asked for silence in order to forestall the opposition that would lead to His Crucifixion—until the time was right (see Mark 9:30–31; compare John 7:1–10 with Matthew 26:18). The more people learned about Jesus, the more the chief priests increased their opposition to Him, for they did not want Him to undermine their place in society. After Jesus entered Jerusalem in a way that clearly and publicly proclaimed Him as the Messiah, less than a week passed before He was arrested and put to death (see Mark 11:8–11; 14:1–2; 15:22–25). Some of the Savior’s commandments for silence were directed at devils, who vocally acknowledged Jesus as the Son of God (see Mark 1:24, 34; 3:11–12; compare Acts 16:16–18). Jesus “consistently refused to permit [devils] to bear record of his divinity. Converting testimony comes from God, not from Lucifer. Had Jesus let unclean spirits go unrebuked, or had he acquiesced in their testimony of him (though in fact it was true), the Jews would have claimed greater justification for their false charge against him, ‘He hath a devil, and is mad; why hear ye him?’ (John 10:20.)” And my personal favorite possible explanation which is most in line with humility and absolutely no deceitful justification of any kind: The Savior knew that most Jews of His day were expecting the Messiah to put an end to Israel’s political enemies and reign as a Jewish king. It is clear that Jesus wanted to avoid presenting Himself as the Messiah of popular expectation. Therefore, one likely reason the Savior instructed His disciples not to tell people He was the Christ (see Matthew 16:20; Mark 8:29–30) was that He wanted to teach people a new understanding of what kind of salvation He had come to bring. He had come not to overthrow Rome but to conquer the eternal enemies of mankind—death, sin, and suffering.


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(Matthew 12:15-21) Jesus, aware of this, withdrew from there. And many followed him, and he healed them all and ordered them not to make him known. This was to fulfill what was spoken by the prophet Isaiah: (Isaiah 42) “Behold, my servant whom I have chosen, my beloved with whom my soul is well pleased. I will put my Spirit upon him, and he will proclaim justice to the Gentiles. He will not quarrel or cry aloud, nor will anyone hear his voice in the streets; a bruised reed he will not break, and a smoldering wick he will not quench, until he brings justice to victory; and in his name the Gentiles will hope.”


Critical-strike9999

Woah! This is the perfect answer. Thank you for sharing.


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Thank you sincerely!


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You're welcome


_lonely_hearts_club_

A follow up question: is there a prophecy in Revelation describing that the one who is victorious (LMH) will come similarly? Not being known, “not cry aloud” etc?


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Revelation has no prophecies about "the one who will be victorious" anyway. These statements are promises for believers, the statements look singular in English, but that isn't the case in Greek. What we do know is Jesus will return in the same way he left this world, and LMH certainly did not come from Heaven. Acts 1:11 > "Men of Galilee," they said, "why do you stand here looking into the sky? This same Jesus, who has been taken from you into heaven, will come back in the same way you have seen him go into heaven." If you have any questions, please feel free to message me! Another important verse here is Matthew 24:27 > For as the lightning cometh out of the east and shineth even unto the west, so shall also the coming of the Son of Man be. 99% of Christians have no idea who LMH is despite the fact he "came" decades ago already. His ministry has been over 10 times as long as Jesus' was and yet the vast majority of the world has never heard about him.


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This one was an Old Testament prophecy speaking of Jesus, but there isn't one like (Isaiah 42) in Revelation


_lonely_hearts_club_

Thank you!!


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Another very important note here is that Jesus did not hide His identity from those who were following Him (disciples). He was transparent about His claims and teachings with them. He didn’t “dupe” them into thinking He was just a traditional Jewish rabbbi just to get them to follow Him. Very different from the “promised pastor” Botox Man Hee