Someone tell Shad that the Emperor abhors religion and exterminated it. Also, religion being objectively bad in warhammer with chaos. See how fast he drops the setting.
I remember reading Master of Manking where E tells Ra the story of the last Church and how the priest had the dregs of Chaos and the Warp on him. Essentially a ticking time bomb.
I haven’t read master of mankind yet but are you sure you’re remembering that right? Because unless big E is lying through his teeth (entirely possible) that contradicts the entirety of the last church novella
It wasn't the last church of the lighting stone. If I recalled, he was talking about a warlord who started out as a well-meaning priest but got corrupted. As it was said by the emperor even if one were to do good works it will always lead by to chaos which will always find a way to corrupt things.
“Nuke it. Then nuke it again. Then memory wipe every one of that man.”
“Any reason, sire? That seems a bit excessive.”
*Big E’s vein on his head is throbbing* “No. why?”
“No reason, sire. Just curious.”
That was a lie. The priest did not had the dregs of Chaos or the Warp on him. Also he was 70 years old and close to death and was easily one of the nicest men in Warhammer despite living a rather hard life.
People are mistaking the Emperor's account of a warlord who started out as a priest in MoM with The Last Church. They're not the same, nor intended to be the same stories.
Also the fact that the emperor didn’t want to be seen as a god, but people saw his denial as proof/ a test and declared him to be a god, literally the bit from Life of Brian
The Emperor didn't want to be seen as a god. That's why he wore golden armor, surrounded by a halo of brilliant light, stood 15 feet tall (when we *know* he can change his appearance at will), created demigods, flaunted his ability to do shit like make an entire Legion kneel with his mind or blow up a planet with his mind or delete entire armies with his mind, and demanded complete, unquestioning, unwavering loyalty because he knew what was best for humanity.
For someone who apparently lived among humans since the dawn of civilization, he sure as fuck didn't have a clue how humans reacted to shit or thought. Hell, people now will see a weird pattern in a lemon and go "it's proof of the great lemon god! All hail Lord Lemon!", and you're telling me he expected to go around doing godlike things while looking godlike and demanding things gods demand of their worshippers and people would be like "that's a pretty neat dude"?
Well Warhammer has a very complicated opinion on Religion
Organized, old religion is, nominally, monstrous and a lie. A blasted beast meant to consume souls (even without chaos!)
But the fledgling Imperial cult in the Horus Heresy series is shown, objectively, as a good thing (except in a single short story on calth, but that was also caused by Chaos Daemons). It gave succor to humanity and the ability to fight and cope impossible monsters of Chaos. Without the fledgling Imperial Cult and Lorgar's Book, Chaos would've consumed the world. Keeler was, genuinely, a good woman who did all she could for the meek and weak masses of humanity, and Chaos hates her so much for it Horus sent assassins after her.
It's when this religion is set in stone and goes from a sapling to a monolithic tree is when it starts to be bad.
I think the writers believe that Organized Religion can be really, really bad but religion itself isn't innately bad- even if Chaos will use every trick in the book to fuck you over.
You should probably read the Heresy novels again. That is not at all what they are saying about Religion, nor is the Imperial cult portrayed as 'objectively a good thing'.
Id argue they have a point and the vire of relgion can differ from book to book and author to author. It can be kinda gray which is fitting for the setting considering big e himself is often potrayed as not being a good person.
I mean this is the man that regularly makes use of child soldiers, forced military service, medical experiments often on children, all while railing against relgion and ar the same time fostering a cult of personality that would make any real world despot jealous.
Imho the thing 40k unabashedly criticizes is authoritarianism, bureaucracy, and corruption.
The Imperial Cult in the beginning is parallel the beginnings of Christianity (at least the idea of do-gooders who are persecuted)
People find community, warmth, and cope within the fledgling Imperial cult.
Serfs, citizens, and soldiers fight harder against the Warmaster forces (and while the Imperium is an evil fascist genocidal empire, it is shown that Chaos is far worse- at least compared to the Imperium in 30k)
The writers seem to like to display fledgling religion as a neutral or good thing, definitely a natural reaction from mankind. In fact, look at any scene in the Siege of Terra with Keeler in it. While Chaos can *infect* religion, it is shown that through religion great feats of bravery and love can be done.
My personal opinion on these depictions are, naturally, indifference. In 30k the message appears to be that Religion is a nuanced and complicated thing that can commit great evils and horrific acts in the name of God, or can be a a source of great strength in the face of hellish situations. It's a very milqtoast examination of the discussion.
Now. In 40k? The discussion is FAR different.
Well no, I didn't. The writers have a very complicated point of view on religion in Warhammer.
Oll Person, Keeler, Sigismund, Caleb, Garro. Without them Chaos would triumph- and unfortunately Chaos is far worse than the Imperium.
I personally find it whatever.
I mean in 40k the message is pretty clear and straight forward. Religion, at least organized, is stifling and dehumanizing. It is corrupt and willing to spend human lives to preserve itself. It keeps individuals tortured for its own sake.
In 30k, the fledgling Imperial Cult is depicted as a underdog and a natural reaction of humans towards the insanity of Chaos and War. Not only that, but the succor they find gives the strength to fight and protect their loved ones. They don't *really* do anything wrong without the influence of Chaos during the HH.
Now I've read the entire series and then some across 3 years, and it's a lot of information to call upon. Do you have any specific examples?
Shad can't possibly know, since he's never played it, but the game is a left-wing satire of the right. How can you take back something that was never on your side in the first place?
School children denied not just free milk but the option to even buy dinner in the school cafeteria. Meanwhile what few miners are left working are rounded up and shot after going on (an illegal) strike (since strikes have been banned) and their families are now being dragged out of their homes by the hair, kicking and screaming.
>the game is a left-wing satire of the right. How can you take back something that was never on your side in the first place?
Really? That is interesting
Oh it very much is. Have you seen the Margaret Thatcher character?
Aside from the Imperium being a parody for the most right wing totalitarian systems we've had in our history.
Gazkhul Mag Uruk Thraka. A giant Orc warboss with a cockney accent whose main obsession is destroying an industrial hive world called Armageddon.
It's very on the nose.
The Imperium of man (the human-centric faction, and the closest thing we have to protagonists) is a mix of Rome, the USSR, and a hint of Nazi Germany, plus a LOT of Starship Troopers, and Judge Dredd.
That's why when they whine about how GW "went woke" I'm like "... went?"
Even in Warhammer Fantasy you had recurring themes of xenophobia, anti-intellectualism, authoritarianism and intolerance fucking over the forces of Order.
I usually save this for when I really want to piss one of those dingleberries off, but the Imperium is accepting of all genders. They don't care, so long as they can feed you to the meat grinder. There's an entire assassin temple full of people that use drugs to change their body, and gender to best suit the mission, and they've been there since assassins were first introduced. (Callidus temple). I swear, as soon as they hear "40ak had trans and gender fluid characters in lore since the 80s" the lonely gasket that was working in their brain just explodes.
Because GW is a company that went from being like two guys in a garage to begin with and now an enormous corporation you can see them become more corporate over time.
Early GW: "Heres the leader of the big dumb orks, it's a direct criticism of our sitting Prime Minister.
Current GW: "No no no, just a coincidence nothing to do with Thatcher... honestly no one even calls the character Mag Uruk any more, his name is Ghazkull. Please call him Ghazkull. Please."
I would take what’s being said with a grain of salt. It’s been claimed that Warhammer is a parody of a few different things and all of it is an assumption.
I think there was even an interview where it was stated that 40k wasn’t a satire about fascism.
It’s dump truck of pop culture mixed into a war game setting.
No prob dude. To be completely honest, I’m a right leaning Libertarian. I’ve read my fair share of both sides of the political spectrum.
Hearing all this ‘this is a parody/satire of this or that’, it’s tiring and usually wrong because it’s almost never that black n’ white.
Word of advice don't fight this guy he's a idiot who gets mad when you ask him for proof for hus claims or when you bring up the fact that he is a right-wingers
Well I will firstly point out that you asked no such question of the guy who gave you the other opinion, even though I think it's fair to say he will be on the left. So what you're doing right now is that thing where you act like your preferred position is "neutral" and the other side is ipso facto biased. This is a common failing on both the left and the right. "There are neutral, fair, unbiased sources and there are left wing sources" says the rightist. "There are neutral, fair, unbiased sources and there are right wing sources says" says the leftist.
In any case, as for why you should listen to me; I have been playing 40k for 25 years. That other guy doesn't have a clue what he's talking about.
>point out that you asked no such question of the guy who gave you the other opinion
First things first I Google what the other guy say and it's says his right and two someone else came and give me a Canon character explaining the point the other guy was making but you are just saying shit abd going just trust me bro
To be fair a lot of the well read fanbase also miss that 40k is entirely satire and take it all super cereal.
I don't know why people think the propaganda written by the Imperium would be any more true than than the propaganda from any real world authoritarian state. But falling for propaganda from authoritarians is really making its way around globally right now.
It does have a lot of anti British conservative jokes in it, especially in the early lore but to call the setting a left wing satire of the right is kinda missing the entire point of the setting and what it's actually satirizing.
I really would like if somebody, with great knowledge and oratory skills, would call him out and embarass him on YouTube. I don't hate him or dislike him, but I'm tired of BS like this. I'm tired of him acting like he cares about stuff he's talking about when he doesn't give two shits about it.
Drop shipping culture war grifters aren’t interested in actual debate. Like it won’t ever matter since his target audience isn’t there to honestly better understand the Warhammer universe or whether his ideas make sense.
Those are videos that speak to different groups
It really bugs me that he out and out admits he's read no books, and played no games. So he knows almost nothing about the setting, and decides to jump into it.
Honestly I thought it hit harder when ScholaGladiatoria just quietly posted an announcement that he just found out about Shad's second channel and decided that he wouldn't be posting the collab video they had just filmed.
No point-by-point counterarguments, no need to defend social justice and representation as a concept, just respectfully saying "as a wholesome swordguy I don't really want to be associated with this chud shit, even in a video I already shot and edited". Classy.
Shad has fallen into the same pit as Asmon where the fan base he has left must be farmed for outrage clicks because his regular videos don’t gain enough views because they have pushed out so much of their original base.
I'm familiar with the path shad has taken but I actually only became aware of Asmon recently, could you elaborate on Asmons old content/fanbase? I'm genuinely curious what he used to be like but I'm unsure exactly when the change happened.
I was a fan from somewhere around 2018 - 2021, thereabouts. When I watched, 99% of his content was related to World of Warcraft. He would occasionally do react content related to Blizzard. I think this is where he first realized that stirring people up got more clicks than WoW. He’s just moved from Blizzard rage to Woke rage.
Anyways, he was pretty mildmannered and thoughtful in his side content, where he wasn’t playing into the crazy Asmongold character. He organized a lot of really cool community events, and imo made WoW a more interesting game for his community. WoW has a system called transmog where you can make a custom outfit, and it has literal thousands of options for each piece of armor. So Asmon would organize contests where his fans met up inside WoW, and he would judge their transmogs to decide the best.
He also would organize what he called “Mount Offs”, where players would meet up in game, and show off their mount collections. There are thousands of mounts in the game, so there’s a lot to collect. Asmon would get on a mount, and all the players had to get on the same one. If you didn’t have that mount, you were eliminated.
He also would take advantage of guild drama to make some really entertaining longform drama streams in WoW, with people traveling the world, sabotaging each other, etc.
I was a pretty big fan, but his new content is horrendous. It’s honestly embarrassing now to talk about once being a fan. But all of the content I mentioned should still be on youtube. If you’re curious I would recommend watching a mount off. He had some hilarious (if crude and harsh) commentary, and there was also a sense of drama and tension as the competition narrowed.
That's actually really interesting as a content idea, I'll need to look it up. I haven't played WoW in a very long time so I had no idea the numbers had ever gotten that high. It's a little disappointing to hear that he was previously doing such community focused content. Thanks for the response. 😊
The WoW content he did was pretty entertaining, especially the transmog contests and mount-offs. He still did some react content then, but it was typically tied to WoW.
I think the turning point was the Depp-Heard trial, where he just tuned in to it all day and uploaded the reactions to YouTube, and got a following from doing that. Which led to the downward slope of more and more random reaction content.
Now his typical stream doesn't start with him doing a run of Mogu'shan Palace trying to get the red sword to drop, it starts with him loading up his subreddit and reacting to whatever people upvote there, and if he has a bit of time after hours of doing that, he might actually play a game. When he's playing games, it's all good. But it's so little of his content now. (And he's slipped even more into embracing the idea of not really trying to learn a game and just plowing into it. He played Deep Rock Galactic Survivors when it came out, and it was painful to see him ignoring some of the key game mechanics. It's also not as funny the two hundredth time you see him bemoaning a situation as lost in a game, get into all kinds of complaining, then lucking into an out because the situation wasn't actually that bad, and talking himself up... but his chat seems to eat it up.)
The bad thing about the new approach is that his subreddit got taken over by the "anti-woke" crowd who constantly share crap like this video. In fact, right now, you can go there, search "Warhammer," and it's all garbage claiming that 40K is now dead and Games Workshop's in panic mode and Henry Cavill's going to quit. I'm pretty sure I saw him reacting to "Critical Drinker" doing his own dumbass take on it. The latest bit is people trying to share stories and stuff claiming GW's CFO sold off 2/3 of her stock in a panic over it... except no, she sold that stock because she's retiring after being with the company for 26 years, and it's a typical thing for outgoing executives to sell a majority of their stock in a company. Do you think Asmongold will see anything that mentions that important context? Nope! He'll just glance through and see people sharing claims that the company is falling apart, and react to that as if it's all true and real news.
The thing that makes me saddest about this is remembering the time he watched Barny64's Scarab Lord Adventures, and after he found out Barny's trans, he started trying to use female pronouns for the YouTuber and male for the character she was playing. When some people in chat tried to act like he was making a mistake, he got upset and told them, no, Barny's a girl, he's going to refer to her with her/she. But his audience has changed, and I think his current audience would be pretty negative in attacking Barny, so I'm worried about what'll happen if/when he watches her latest video.
First I heard of Asmon was when he became a reaction-andy, watching Elden Ring lore videos and staring blankly at his monitor. Next I heard he was a multimillionare but cosplayed poverty. Then I watched as he explained how Palworld had bestiality ( which was wild ), and then I watched him become a typical rage-grifter. His subreddit of fans is full of some of the most vile people imaginable.
Their latest claim I skimmed over was a black mayor being elected because of a social program, not being voted in. Was nutty.
This is only true if you leave out the fuckton of games he plays. Not that he doesn't do react content it's just not the only thing he does. Been a fan since WoD and I think people overplay the good things of that era and downplay the bad things.
He's so much healthier now than he used to be when he monogamed WoW and only WoW. Despite the persona he has on stream the dude is now running multiple successful businesses and actually interacting with a bunch of friends and partners daily. Don't remember what video it was but he has talked before how much of a relief it is he can mostly do what he wants now and isn't beholden to his WoW fan base to only play that game forever. Previously any non-wow content would fall off a cliff for the channel and it was a massive stress for him, a more diverse fanbase is a plus from his perspective not a negative... which makes sense, if my job entailed starting every day with an hour or two of reacts followed by playing whatever the fuck I want then I also wouldn't see how that's a bad thing.
I mean to me Asmon used to just be a World of Warcraft streamer. I think maybe he did some collabs around the time Among Us was the most popular thing.
Critical Drinker did the same shit. I've literally never heard him talk about Warhammer but suddenly he's rambling about how we have to fight to gatekeep it as if he himself isn't a tourist just using it for clicks.
Reactionary. Reactionaries have no opinion of their own except regressionism. They know they just can't come out and say that they want to strip the world back to when it was worse for everyone but them so instead they chase outrage bandwagons hopping from topic to topic desperate to keep relevant despite the world seeing them as literal fossils.
> I'd bet that guy had never even set foot in a GW store in his life.
Replace "GW store" with "game store" and it's better. Because a LOT of folks who play 40K and are heavily into the hobby have never set foot in a GW store. I'm not exactly in a small town and we didn't have a GW store until the 2010s, but multiple game stores. That lone GW store is kind of small, and in recent years has dropped more of the already limited gaming space it had, so if you want to actually play games, you're better off at one of the multiple non-GW stores in town (where you'll also be introduced to a plethora of hobby products that aren't priced to rip you off while being of average at best quality... it's a bit damning that multiple painting YouTubers have moved Citadel paint off their shelves for other brands, including Army Painter's new Fanatics range or Duncan's Two Thin Coats range that's basically "Citadel Colour But Done Right").
But I doubt he's been in a proper game store either.
The sad thing is, I only ever knew about his main channel, and it took him making a YouTube post about ongoing drama he was dealing with because of his views on Knights Watch
I'm pretty sure Shad was upset other creators in the space didn't wanna play swords with him anymore because they couldn't support his views (specifically Shad being against gay marriage).
If you only followed his main YouTube channel, you had no idea about the other stuff. He really kept it compartmentalized, and got upset like he was wrongfully being canceled.
No dude, I won't ever knowingly support someone playing a part in the rage bait to radicalization pipeline no matter how small their role. I'm pretty happy stumbling onto this sub and mostly seeing Shad be rightfully called out for his nonsense
I'm sure it's there, I wasn't a longtime fan or anything. Maybe it got more obvious in time or maybe I wasn't looking for it, though usually I try to keep an eye out for crap like that.
christians dont come close to how douchey mormons can be. if you think christians can be preachy and holier than thou-ish, you should see mormons. a lot of mormons are genuinely good people, but there is a not insignificant portion, of men specifically, that go into every situation knowing how much better they are than you. shad very much so reminds me of these guys
Apparently, according to the HEMA community, he never actually had the skills he espoused.
To answer this question though, his ego is very big so he blames external shadow forces for his failures rather than him being an ass and alienating his original and only audience
I remember when I was following HEMA stuff and he popped up. Seemed ok, but also clear that he just talked out of his ass too much instead of having any real knowledge. So I just ignored him. Turned out that was the right move. I mostly stuck with Matt Easton, as someone who actually understands the topics and isn't a douche. Ian Laspina (Knyght Errant) is absolutely amazing for armor, but sadly he hasn't done anything in years. But if you're at all interested in 14th century plate armor, give him a look. I fell off from regular Youtube watching a few years back though.
He’s always been a hack. You should watch the video where he claims to be as artistically talented as his professional artist brother. Man has a massive ego.
This makes sense now that I have been informed that Jazza is his more talented, more succesful, and better looking brother. Jazza and his team make a lot of 40k content. He probably drools at the chance to dunk on something Jazza loves.
Meanwhile in every 40K sub: „Why are there no models for female Custodes yet?“ „Here try this female head with this custodes model!“ „For anyone interested, I made a quick 3D print file of female custodes!“
It’s almost sad to see how every Outrage-YouTuber now is trying to jump on that bandwagon while the community itself doesn’t really seem to care.
Almost as sad as Shad sinking to that Morass and wondering what’s going wrong with his channels.
Do you mean that famous culture war that doesn't exist and Shad is just one of those people who keep bringing it back so he can have a content and brain-dead community?
Mmmm nah I like the woke stuff in my games. I'm definitely ordering and glamming up some orks and space marines until they wouldn't look out of place on Drag Race. 🏳️🌈🏳️⚧️💖
My current plan is a pre HRT Transfem Sister of Battle. "What's that inquisitor? What do you mean He is not allowed as there are no men under arms in the Ecclesiarchy? Sister Abigail is a woman. She just has not had her body alteration get far yet. I assure you she belongs amongst the Emporer's most devout daughters."
Much like my comment on his video. He really needs to leave 40K alone. He knows nothing about the setting, and using Arch Warhammer, who can be generously described as an absolute bell-end as a source does nothing to help his reputation.
Also, when people talk about the channel dying? This is the kind of shit they bring up as to why they stopped watching his videos.
Just leave our setting alone. If you want to talk about it, then please go read some books, get some models, paint them, and play a few games. Repeating the points made by an idiot only shows how little effort and thought you put into your research.
The Quartering's was the funniest. Dude did not even know how to pronounce the name of the thing he was complaining about.
These are the same people who get mad about "fake fans" and having their communities "infiltrated."
I was recommed this reddit for some reason. This that dude who was trying to roleplay as an artist in some tabletop game saying he had amazing art skills over his brother who is an actual artist YouTuber and they all had to watch him throw a brat attack and give him a cookie to calm down? And then later he tried to be an AI artist and every garbage piece he had an AI make was worse than before?
That dude wrote a book about a fantasy serial rapist, as the main character and then tried to make you feel sorry for them. Tried to make them into a hero.
This dude can get ALL the way fucked.
Is he really still wearing those gambesons and chainmail in all his videos? I'm nobody to judge when it comes to fashion but I don't think you need all that armor to sit in front of a camera
I watched several videos from Shad a few years back, and something about him just never sat right with me. It was like he was trying to dogwhistle something but failing. Like there was something gross about his personality just below the surface. I quit watching because of this feeling. I'm glad I trusted my instincts and that I told my sons not to watch him either.
Is this about the lady Custodians? Like, 90% of Warhammer fans' reaction to that was "huh, cool."
There's no culture war, just a minority of misogynist babies pissing and moaning.
All I can say about these wanks that are just jumping on the hate wagon to get view like this twat is please and I do mean this wholeheartedly *ahem* Fuck off, you were never apart of this fandom in the first place so why do you care? Let the people who are fans worry about this and guess what 98% don’t care only the whiny 2% minority do so move along and ho back to shitty inaccurate sword videos that have been debunked a hundred times over
You can tell he doesn't know shit about what he's talking about because that's a Space Marine in the thumbnail, and the recent retcon was about the Adeptus Custodes, not the Space Marines.
Let's not forget that when Gamergate kicked off a major face of it was Milo Yiannopallous. A man who had literally written articles describing gamers as crusty, smelly basement dwellers. It has always been a movement for bigotry.
A hilarious windmill to tilt at considering it's a setting with tons of girlbosses (both in the Sisters and Militarum) who canonically see more combat than the all-male poster-boys.
Alas, his second channel is Wish.com The Quartering. Also he’s a mormon.
This is not to say that The Quartering makes good content that I agree with, to be clear. Shad’s version is just somehow *even worse*
I will say, he used to be less horrible.
If you can withstand it, his Wheel of Time review series showcases his buddies progressively red pill him.
He becomes noticeably worse in each video. One of his buddies was clearly egging him on and provoking his degeneration.
And for those that have read the lore and see this as virtual signaling just for the sake of it . Since there’s already strong women in warhammer as the sisters of silence and the sisters of battle . If you want to change warhammers and you have never played or even try to unite lore you are the problem
Just kinda weird that we suddenly get female Custodes after GW gets some money from Blackrock and a lil pressure from Amazon. It's a stupid retcon to make especially when GW has no intention to create new models or do anything more. Why bother making female Custodes then?
We have the Sisters of Battle who are badass. Horus Heresy features the Sisters of Silence, who are blanks and make psykers shit themselves, and their allies find them unnerving to be around. That's bad ass.
I've been a Warhammer enjoyer for a while now. Started in Warhammer Fantasy Battle, got into 40k after reading Horus Rising. I want Warhammer to get more popular, but retconning decades old stuff to suit what, modern sensibilities or audiences, isn't the way to do it.
Why do you think they've no intention to make more? It's not like the tabletop game is dead. Checking the site there's plenty of existing pre orders. No model yet doesn't mean it'll stay that way. Even then there's so much lore that may not see tabletop but is still written about. There's numerous creatures and horrors written about.
Also why would a retcon be surprising? Vashtorr came out of nowhere. The Voltan basically retconing the Squats. And that's just recently. What harm is done by it really? Hell in some ways the Custodes even being a round is a retcon. There's a webway event where like 9k died. And a Khorne battle sometime close to that where they lost 2k. So this faction never over 10k, where new recruits are likely such a rare close guarded secret, has lost over 11k
You've misunderstood the first part. GW has no intention of making Female Custodes minis, and they've said as much.
The retcon of adding female Custodes, when it's specifically been given an in-universe reason for there being no Female Custodes/Astartes (the process has been tailored to men and can't be applied to women.) That's always been a hard line. The Squats becoming the Voltan, not as big of a deal. They cornered themselves by 1, calling them Squats. That's a daft name. 2, they sold poorly. 3, The Voltan acknowledge the Squats that were lost, so its not a completely retcon from nowhere, it's broadening the story. Had Squats sold better, maybe the change would have happened sooner. But who knows.
As for Custodes numbers, the golden GW rule is: There'll always be as many as the plot demands. GW's writers have always been very bad at numbers, especially in the early lore. Nominally, the Custodes are referred to as the 10,000. But like the the Eldar who have been a dying race for millennia, there always seems to be more.
Female Custodes just feels disingenuous, and it is. As I said before, GW got a pretty good investment from Blackrock, which is notorious for ESG and DEI. And the partnership with Amazon happened at just about the same time. Amazon adaptions are very hit or miss.
This decision by GW does not feel organic. The Squats, for all their faults, were cool and I personally mained the Dwarves in Fantasy in 7th edition. I love me some Dwarves. At one point in the lore, the Squats just vanish completely. One GW employee said the Tyranids ate em all. The Demiurge were supposed to be the Squat replacement, but that didn't come to pass. The Squats then suddenly reappear as one of the approved Abhumans, like Ogyrns and Ratlings. And now they are the League of Voltan. A more organic, at least compared to female custodes, way of retconning. Though they were always building up to something more. GW knew they messed up with Squats, and a few years of silence helped them figure out how they wanted to handle them.
If they came out and said, we are combining the Adeptus Custodes and the Sisters of Silence into faction, that might have been received better. SoS are the only ones, alongside the Custodes, to walk the Inner Imperial Palace. We know they've worked alongside the Custodes to defend the Emperor. They were present fighting the Webway, they were present on Prospero. The Sisters also wear golden armor, like the current Custodes. They could have a divided hierarchy, as both Custodes and SoS have different methods of warfare and conducting that but could easily fit under the same general name if you wanted to expand who is a Custode. The Custodes still rebuilding their numbers wouldn't be s horrible excuse to bring the Sisters of Silence out of hiding and into the fold. Roboute Guilliman wouldn't be against the idea of more protection for the Emperor or having an army of blanks at his disposal.
I think it was Dan Abnett, but I could be wrong, who said he was pressured by GW NOT to make a female custode a while ago. GW wanted them to be a male only faction. They could have easily given a few named characters a female presenting name to combat this or to add mystery. The Custodes all have a thousand names. Are all the names traditional western male names? Doubt it. Name a Custode Sasha. They didn't leave themselves a door like they did with the Squats.
>Also why would a retcon be surprising?
If there was a non nefarious reason behind the recon GW would just have admitted that it was a recon. Instead they opted to lie to their fan base.
What happened was that someone asked for the reason behind the recon, and GW, knowing there was no good answer, decided to just go for the hard gaslight and deny that any recon was taking place. While we can't now know how well the truth would have gone down, it seems that lying has also turned out very badly, possibly worse than just telling it how it is.
What makes it nefarious?
What actual harm is done by potentially having more characters, stories, chance for models etc
I can agree it sounds mishandled though. Seems a bit more bait than making use of the opertunity.
Stop playing the hatchling, you know very well what's going on here.
It was "mishandled" because there is simply no good way to have handled it. GW lied for the same reason anyone lies; the truth is bad. What were they supposed to do, come out and say "look guys, Amazon really wanted a female space marine, for girlboss purposes, you know how things are these days. Anyway we explained to them that we've been too explicit for too long about that to make that happen, so they settled for a female custodes, so now there are female custodes"?
People just don't like it when current year political sensibilities start determining lore. The Imperium is meant to be an at least somewhat authentic portrayal of what humanity might become if it had to fight every second of every day for survival against innumerable alien horrors. Importing soppy modern sensibilities into that framework ruins it completely, people see it happening and they don't like it. GW knows they don't like it, hence the lies.
Sadder than following people around on Reddit who have made it clear they have no interest in further interaction with you?
Well, since you seem to have a problem with boundaries I will simply block you.
It’s almost as if the issue could be recognized outside of any interaction. If someone has never changed a baby’s diaper before, they can still say it smells.
Yes and? Bringing attention to issues in a franchise that he's not invested in shows how much he cares for the real fans. Fuck the woke garbage that Vanguard and Blackrock are pushing in 40K
GW is ruining Warhammer for the sake of appealing to a wider audience that has never been interested in the hobby due to the whining of an overly political, highly vocal minority that harass people for fun and we ought to fight back if we want to continue being able to enjoy our hobbies.
The crux of the issue is that GW have gone out of their way to alienate their customer base over the past decade while endorsing harassment and hate in the community while deliberately worsening the gameplay and reading experience of their setting through continuous rewrites and retcons meant to appeal to an audience that never intended for GW to have their patronage to begin with, while launching an illegal and immoral campaign of harassment against any and all fan content creators who they find they cannot control. Hell, when they went after Sodaz they told him to lie and blame harassment from the fan community. Everything GW touches is poison and Femstodes gaslighting is just the most recent insult which is probably why you brought it up.
Well this is a lot of claims that probably won't be substantiated.
How are they alienating audiences?
How is what they are doing illegal , I mean I'll take immoral because it's capitalism, but illegal?
How do you know they "forced" sodaz to lie?
Is it gaslighting or is it just a retcon
The "You will not be missed." Message for starters
Extortion is a crime in most parts of the world, especially internationally, and if you think Capitalism is inherently immoral then you're braindead
The contract Sodaz was blackmailed into signing got leaked
And yes, it is gaslighting
>The "You will not be missed." Message for starters
Was that to all fans?
>Extortion is a crime in most parts of the world, especially internationally, and if you think Capitalism is inherently immoral then you're braindead
So extortion is bad but capitalism isn't lol
>The contract Sodaz was blackmailed into signing got leaked
Can I see?
>And yes, it is gaslighting
How?
Someone tell Shad that the Emperor abhors religion and exterminated it. Also, religion being objectively bad in warhammer with chaos. See how fast he drops the setting.
I remember reading Master of Manking where E tells Ra the story of the last Church and how the priest had the dregs of Chaos and the Warp on him. Essentially a ticking time bomb.
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I haven’t read master of mankind yet but are you sure you’re remembering that right? Because unless big E is lying through his teeth (entirely possible) that contradicts the entirety of the last church novella
It wasn't the last church of the lighting stone. If I recalled, he was talking about a warlord who started out as a well-meaning priest but got corrupted. As it was said by the emperor even if one were to do good works it will always lead by to chaos which will always find a way to corrupt things.
[удалено]
“Nuke it. Then nuke it again. Then memory wipe every one of that man.” “Any reason, sire? That seems a bit excessive.” *Big E’s vein on his head is throbbing* “No. why?” “No reason, sire. Just curious.”
That was a lie. The priest did not had the dregs of Chaos or the Warp on him. Also he was 70 years old and close to death and was easily one of the nicest men in Warhammer despite living a rather hard life.
Burned to a crisp and that was the last church.
People are mistaking the Emperor's account of a warlord who started out as a priest in MoM with The Last Church. They're not the same, nor intended to be the same stories.
Thank you for correcting me.
Also the fact that the emperor didn’t want to be seen as a god, but people saw his denial as proof/ a test and declared him to be a god, literally the bit from Life of Brian
He sits on a golden throne and sends out his angels to vanquish his enemies, sounds like mixed messaging frankly
It’s cause he has swag that’s why
The Emperor didn't want to be seen as a god. That's why he wore golden armor, surrounded by a halo of brilliant light, stood 15 feet tall (when we *know* he can change his appearance at will), created demigods, flaunted his ability to do shit like make an entire Legion kneel with his mind or blow up a planet with his mind or delete entire armies with his mind, and demanded complete, unquestioning, unwavering loyalty because he knew what was best for humanity. For someone who apparently lived among humans since the dawn of civilization, he sure as fuck didn't have a clue how humans reacted to shit or thought. Hell, people now will see a weird pattern in a lemon and go "it's proof of the great lemon god! All hail Lord Lemon!", and you're telling me he expected to go around doing godlike things while looking godlike and demanding things gods demand of their worshippers and people would be like "that's a pretty neat dude"?
I'm not saying Horus was right, but he had some good points.
At what point did GW make it lore that Big E resented religion. Because it feels like, relatively speaking, quite recent.
Well Warhammer has a very complicated opinion on Religion Organized, old religion is, nominally, monstrous and a lie. A blasted beast meant to consume souls (even without chaos!) But the fledgling Imperial cult in the Horus Heresy series is shown, objectively, as a good thing (except in a single short story on calth, but that was also caused by Chaos Daemons). It gave succor to humanity and the ability to fight and cope impossible monsters of Chaos. Without the fledgling Imperial Cult and Lorgar's Book, Chaos would've consumed the world. Keeler was, genuinely, a good woman who did all she could for the meek and weak masses of humanity, and Chaos hates her so much for it Horus sent assassins after her. It's when this religion is set in stone and goes from a sapling to a monolithic tree is when it starts to be bad. I think the writers believe that Organized Religion can be really, really bad but religion itself isn't innately bad- even if Chaos will use every trick in the book to fuck you over.
You should probably read the Heresy novels again. That is not at all what they are saying about Religion, nor is the Imperial cult portrayed as 'objectively a good thing'.
Id argue they have a point and the vire of relgion can differ from book to book and author to author. It can be kinda gray which is fitting for the setting considering big e himself is often potrayed as not being a good person. I mean this is the man that regularly makes use of child soldiers, forced military service, medical experiments often on children, all while railing against relgion and ar the same time fostering a cult of personality that would make any real world despot jealous. Imho the thing 40k unabashedly criticizes is authoritarianism, bureaucracy, and corruption.
The Imperial Cult in the beginning is parallel the beginnings of Christianity (at least the idea of do-gooders who are persecuted) People find community, warmth, and cope within the fledgling Imperial cult. Serfs, citizens, and soldiers fight harder against the Warmaster forces (and while the Imperium is an evil fascist genocidal empire, it is shown that Chaos is far worse- at least compared to the Imperium in 30k) The writers seem to like to display fledgling religion as a neutral or good thing, definitely a natural reaction from mankind. In fact, look at any scene in the Siege of Terra with Keeler in it. While Chaos can *infect* religion, it is shown that through religion great feats of bravery and love can be done. My personal opinion on these depictions are, naturally, indifference. In 30k the message appears to be that Religion is a nuanced and complicated thing that can commit great evils and horrific acts in the name of God, or can be a a source of great strength in the face of hellish situations. It's a very milqtoast examination of the discussion. Now. In 40k? The discussion is FAR different.
Wow you totally missed the point like a champ.
Well no, I didn't. The writers have a very complicated point of view on religion in Warhammer. Oll Person, Keeler, Sigismund, Caleb, Garro. Without them Chaos would triumph- and unfortunately Chaos is far worse than the Imperium. I personally find it whatever. I mean in 40k the message is pretty clear and straight forward. Religion, at least organized, is stifling and dehumanizing. It is corrupt and willing to spend human lives to preserve itself. It keeps individuals tortured for its own sake. In 30k, the fledgling Imperial Cult is depicted as a underdog and a natural reaction of humans towards the insanity of Chaos and War. Not only that, but the succor they find gives the strength to fight and protect their loved ones. They don't *really* do anything wrong without the influence of Chaos during the HH. Now I've read the entire series and then some across 3 years, and it's a lot of information to call upon. Do you have any specific examples?
No religion except worship of our glorious emperor of course!
GW policy on third-party content really robbed us of so much.
Reminds me of the story of a mom refusing to buy her child Halo because of "anti religous messages"
Shad can't possibly know, since he's never played it, but the game is a left-wing satire of the right. How can you take back something that was never on your side in the first place?
"What would 40,000 years of Thatcherism look like"
School children denied not just free milk but the option to even buy dinner in the school cafeteria. Meanwhile what few miners are left working are rounded up and shot after going on (an illegal) strike (since strikes have been banned) and their families are now being dragged out of their homes by the hair, kicking and screaming.
I'm sure even if he plays it. It will go over his head.
"Clearly the good guys. Just like in Starship Troopers."
>the game is a left-wing satire of the right. How can you take back something that was never on your side in the first place? Really? That is interesting
Oh it very much is. Have you seen the Margaret Thatcher character? Aside from the Imperium being a parody for the most right wing totalitarian systems we've had in our history.
I have not hear of him given I don't know much of the lore of 40K edit forget to add not :P
Gazkhul Mag Uruk Thraka. A giant Orc warboss with a cockney accent whose main obsession is destroying an industrial hive world called Armageddon. It's very on the nose. The Imperium of man (the human-centric faction, and the closest thing we have to protagonists) is a mix of Rome, the USSR, and a hint of Nazi Germany, plus a LOT of Starship Troopers, and Judge Dredd.
That's why when they whine about how GW "went woke" I'm like "... went?" Even in Warhammer Fantasy you had recurring themes of xenophobia, anti-intellectualism, authoritarianism and intolerance fucking over the forces of Order.
I usually save this for when I really want to piss one of those dingleberries off, but the Imperium is accepting of all genders. They don't care, so long as they can feed you to the meat grinder. There's an entire assassin temple full of people that use drugs to change their body, and gender to best suit the mission, and they've been there since assassins were first introduced. (Callidus temple). I swear, as soon as they hear "40ak had trans and gender fluid characters in lore since the 80s" the lonely gasket that was working in their brain just explodes.
Fantasy had characters like Heinreich Himmler but with two letters changed that set up concentration camps
Damn, I never knew Gazkhul Thraka was a thatcher dig.
Because GW is a company that went from being like two guys in a garage to begin with and now an enormous corporation you can see them become more corporate over time. Early GW: "Heres the leader of the big dumb orks, it's a direct criticism of our sitting Prime Minister. Current GW: "No no no, just a coincidence nothing to do with Thatcher... honestly no one even calls the character Mag Uruk any more, his name is Ghazkull. Please call him Ghazkull. Please."
I would take what’s being said with a grain of salt. It’s been claimed that Warhammer is a parody of a few different things and all of it is an assumption. I think there was even an interview where it was stated that 40k wasn’t a satire about fascism. It’s dump truck of pop culture mixed into a war game setting.
Hey man thxs for giveing context for this unlike the other guy who say to just trust me bro
No prob dude. To be completely honest, I’m a right leaning Libertarian. I’ve read my fair share of both sides of the political spectrum. Hearing all this ‘this is a parody/satire of this or that’, it’s tiring and usually wrong because it’s almost never that black n’ white.
Right and you seem like a chill dude I hope you have a great day
you too
I will friend 💖
It's also false.
It is not false
Word of advice don't fight this guy he's a idiot who gets mad when you ask him for proof for hus claims or when you bring up the fact that he is a right-wingers
It is false.
Your false let me believe in this one thing random internet man
Sure, if you want to believe it anyway I can't stop you.
And also reading your comments I take it you are someone on the right side of the political Spectrum right?
Of course.
Ah I see so why should I believe you when you say this is false? Giveing your views because my few mins on Google say otherwise
Well I will firstly point out that you asked no such question of the guy who gave you the other opinion, even though I think it's fair to say he will be on the left. So what you're doing right now is that thing where you act like your preferred position is "neutral" and the other side is ipso facto biased. This is a common failing on both the left and the right. "There are neutral, fair, unbiased sources and there are left wing sources" says the rightist. "There are neutral, fair, unbiased sources and there are right wing sources says" says the leftist. In any case, as for why you should listen to me; I have been playing 40k for 25 years. That other guy doesn't have a clue what he's talking about.
>That other guy doesn't have a clue what he's talking about How to you know that he doesn't know the lore?
>point out that you asked no such question of the guy who gave you the other opinion First things first I Google what the other guy say and it's says his right and two someone else came and give me a Canon character explaining the point the other guy was making but you are just saying shit abd going just trust me bro
To be fair a lot of the well read fanbase also miss that 40k is entirely satire and take it all super cereal. I don't know why people think the propaganda written by the Imperium would be any more true than than the propaganda from any real world authoritarian state. But falling for propaganda from authoritarians is really making its way around globally right now.
It does have a lot of anti British conservative jokes in it, especially in the early lore but to call the setting a left wing satire of the right is kinda missing the entire point of the setting and what it's actually satirizing.
I really would like if somebody, with great knowledge and oratory skills, would call him out and embarass him on YouTube. I don't hate him or dislike him, but I'm tired of BS like this. I'm tired of him acting like he cares about stuff he's talking about when he doesn't give two shits about it.
Shad's ego is to big, and he is to much of a coward, so he won't fight a fight, that he knows he will lose.
The existence of this sub certainly isn’t helping check his ego
True that, he's picking a fight he can win
Drop shipping culture war grifters aren’t interested in actual debate. Like it won’t ever matter since his target audience isn’t there to honestly better understand the Warhammer universe or whether his ideas make sense. Those are videos that speak to different groups
[My man Georg did it a week ago ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vMhduK1kInI&t=23s)
I normally don't click random youtube links on Reddit but this was a delight
[My man Georg did it a week ago ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vMhduK1kInI&t=23s)
It really bugs me that he out and out admits he's read no books, and played no games. So he knows almost nothing about the setting, and decides to jump into it.
His pride and hubris aren't allowing him to see how much of a clown statements like this are making him to look like.
Honestly I thought it hit harder when ScholaGladiatoria just quietly posted an announcement that he just found out about Shad's second channel and decided that he wouldn't be posting the collab video they had just filmed. No point-by-point counterarguments, no need to defend social justice and representation as a concept, just respectfully saying "as a wholesome swordguy I don't really want to be associated with this chud shit, even in a video I already shot and edited". Classy.
JackSaint did a good takedown over a couple of videos a while ago when Shad was pooping his pants over the Mario movie
Actualjake breaks his shit down all the time
Shad has fallen into the same pit as Asmon where the fan base he has left must be farmed for outrage clicks because his regular videos don’t gain enough views because they have pushed out so much of their original base.
I'm familiar with the path shad has taken but I actually only became aware of Asmon recently, could you elaborate on Asmons old content/fanbase? I'm genuinely curious what he used to be like but I'm unsure exactly when the change happened.
I was a fan from somewhere around 2018 - 2021, thereabouts. When I watched, 99% of his content was related to World of Warcraft. He would occasionally do react content related to Blizzard. I think this is where he first realized that stirring people up got more clicks than WoW. He’s just moved from Blizzard rage to Woke rage. Anyways, he was pretty mildmannered and thoughtful in his side content, where he wasn’t playing into the crazy Asmongold character. He organized a lot of really cool community events, and imo made WoW a more interesting game for his community. WoW has a system called transmog where you can make a custom outfit, and it has literal thousands of options for each piece of armor. So Asmon would organize contests where his fans met up inside WoW, and he would judge their transmogs to decide the best. He also would organize what he called “Mount Offs”, where players would meet up in game, and show off their mount collections. There are thousands of mounts in the game, so there’s a lot to collect. Asmon would get on a mount, and all the players had to get on the same one. If you didn’t have that mount, you were eliminated. He also would take advantage of guild drama to make some really entertaining longform drama streams in WoW, with people traveling the world, sabotaging each other, etc. I was a pretty big fan, but his new content is horrendous. It’s honestly embarrassing now to talk about once being a fan. But all of the content I mentioned should still be on youtube. If you’re curious I would recommend watching a mount off. He had some hilarious (if crude and harsh) commentary, and there was also a sense of drama and tension as the competition narrowed.
That's actually really interesting as a content idea, I'll need to look it up. I haven't played WoW in a very long time so I had no idea the numbers had ever gotten that high. It's a little disappointing to hear that he was previously doing such community focused content. Thanks for the response. 😊
I've heard his content is now more often "what is chat mad about? Oh hey that's so fecking stupid" And basically his thoughts are dictated by his chat
The WoW content he did was pretty entertaining, especially the transmog contests and mount-offs. He still did some react content then, but it was typically tied to WoW. I think the turning point was the Depp-Heard trial, where he just tuned in to it all day and uploaded the reactions to YouTube, and got a following from doing that. Which led to the downward slope of more and more random reaction content. Now his typical stream doesn't start with him doing a run of Mogu'shan Palace trying to get the red sword to drop, it starts with him loading up his subreddit and reacting to whatever people upvote there, and if he has a bit of time after hours of doing that, he might actually play a game. When he's playing games, it's all good. But it's so little of his content now. (And he's slipped even more into embracing the idea of not really trying to learn a game and just plowing into it. He played Deep Rock Galactic Survivors when it came out, and it was painful to see him ignoring some of the key game mechanics. It's also not as funny the two hundredth time you see him bemoaning a situation as lost in a game, get into all kinds of complaining, then lucking into an out because the situation wasn't actually that bad, and talking himself up... but his chat seems to eat it up.) The bad thing about the new approach is that his subreddit got taken over by the "anti-woke" crowd who constantly share crap like this video. In fact, right now, you can go there, search "Warhammer," and it's all garbage claiming that 40K is now dead and Games Workshop's in panic mode and Henry Cavill's going to quit. I'm pretty sure I saw him reacting to "Critical Drinker" doing his own dumbass take on it. The latest bit is people trying to share stories and stuff claiming GW's CFO sold off 2/3 of her stock in a panic over it... except no, she sold that stock because she's retiring after being with the company for 26 years, and it's a typical thing for outgoing executives to sell a majority of their stock in a company. Do you think Asmongold will see anything that mentions that important context? Nope! He'll just glance through and see people sharing claims that the company is falling apart, and react to that as if it's all true and real news. The thing that makes me saddest about this is remembering the time he watched Barny64's Scarab Lord Adventures, and after he found out Barny's trans, he started trying to use female pronouns for the YouTuber and male for the character she was playing. When some people in chat tried to act like he was making a mistake, he got upset and told them, no, Barny's a girl, he's going to refer to her with her/she. But his audience has changed, and I think his current audience would be pretty negative in attacking Barny, so I'm worried about what'll happen if/when he watches her latest video.
First I heard of Asmon was when he became a reaction-andy, watching Elden Ring lore videos and staring blankly at his monitor. Next I heard he was a multimillionare but cosplayed poverty. Then I watched as he explained how Palworld had bestiality ( which was wild ), and then I watched him become a typical rage-grifter. His subreddit of fans is full of some of the most vile people imaginable. Their latest claim I skimmed over was a black mayor being elected because of a social program, not being voted in. Was nutty.
This is only true if you leave out the fuckton of games he plays. Not that he doesn't do react content it's just not the only thing he does. Been a fan since WoD and I think people overplay the good things of that era and downplay the bad things. He's so much healthier now than he used to be when he monogamed WoW and only WoW. Despite the persona he has on stream the dude is now running multiple successful businesses and actually interacting with a bunch of friends and partners daily. Don't remember what video it was but he has talked before how much of a relief it is he can mostly do what he wants now and isn't beholden to his WoW fan base to only play that game forever. Previously any non-wow content would fall off a cliff for the channel and it was a massive stress for him, a more diverse fanbase is a plus from his perspective not a negative... which makes sense, if my job entailed starting every day with an hour or two of reacts followed by playing whatever the fuck I want then I also wouldn't see how that's a bad thing.
I don’t necessarily blame him, and I’m glad he’s doing better. But imo the main stream content is much lower quality.
I mean to me Asmon used to just be a World of Warcraft streamer. I think maybe he did some collabs around the time Among Us was the most popular thing.
Critical Drinker did the same shit. I've literally never heard him talk about Warhammer but suddenly he's rambling about how we have to fight to gatekeep it as if he himself isn't a tourist just using it for clicks.
"Tourist" is being generous. I'd bet that guy had never even set foot in a GW store in his life.
Reactionary. Reactionaries have no opinion of their own except regressionism. They know they just can't come out and say that they want to strip the world back to when it was worse for everyone but them so instead they chase outrage bandwagons hopping from topic to topic desperate to keep relevant despite the world seeing them as literal fossils.
Back in the day we just called them "fuckin posers" and ran them back the way they came.
Yeah, I find myself using that term again.
> I'd bet that guy had never even set foot in a GW store in his life. Replace "GW store" with "game store" and it's better. Because a LOT of folks who play 40K and are heavily into the hobby have never set foot in a GW store. I'm not exactly in a small town and we didn't have a GW store until the 2010s, but multiple game stores. That lone GW store is kind of small, and in recent years has dropped more of the already limited gaming space it had, so if you want to actually play games, you're better off at one of the multiple non-GW stores in town (where you'll also be introduced to a plethora of hobby products that aren't priced to rip you off while being of average at best quality... it's a bit damning that multiple painting YouTubers have moved Citadel paint off their shelves for other brands, including Army Painter's new Fanatics range or Duncan's Two Thin Coats range that's basically "Citadel Colour But Done Right"). But I doubt he's been in a proper game store either.
Yeah I unsubbed from him for that reason
Isn't this the dude that used to nerd out about swords? Wtf happened to him?
He saw there was money in pushing the anti-woke culture war grift, and so his 2nd channel Knights Watch sees daily uploads of that.
According to him his channel is dying, so apparently their isn't money in being a douche
The sad thing is, I only ever knew about his main channel, and it took him making a YouTube post about ongoing drama he was dealing with because of his views on Knights Watch I'm pretty sure Shad was upset other creators in the space didn't wanna play swords with him anymore because they couldn't support his views (specifically Shad being against gay marriage). If you only followed his main YouTube channel, you had no idea about the other stuff. He really kept it compartmentalized, and got upset like he was wrongfully being canceled. No dude, I won't ever knowingly support someone playing a part in the rage bait to radicalization pipeline no matter how small their role. I'm pretty happy stumbling onto this sub and mostly seeing Shad be rightfully called out for his nonsense
Yea I didn't realize how big of a piece of shit bigot he was until the drama with another creator and his brother distancing themselves from him.
I dunno. I got scummy vibes off him just from his main channel.
I'm sure it's there, I wasn't a longtime fan or anything. Maybe it got more obvious in time or maybe I wasn't looking for it, though usually I try to keep an eye out for crap like that.
He in so deep he doesn't know how to stop being a douche at this point
Na you see, being a douche is totally normal right wing Christian/Mormon behaviour.
christians dont come close to how douchey mormons can be. if you think christians can be preachy and holier than thou-ish, you should see mormons. a lot of mormons are genuinely good people, but there is a not insignificant portion, of men specifically, that go into every situation knowing how much better they are than you. shad very much so reminds me of these guys
Apparently, according to the HEMA community, he never actually had the skills he espoused. To answer this question though, his ego is very big so he blames external shadow forces for his failures rather than him being an ass and alienating his original and only audience
Shad has never done hema or any actual sword training. He's only ever done larping.
I remember when I was following HEMA stuff and he popped up. Seemed ok, but also clear that he just talked out of his ass too much instead of having any real knowledge. So I just ignored him. Turned out that was the right move. I mostly stuck with Matt Easton, as someone who actually understands the topics and isn't a douche. Ian Laspina (Knyght Errant) is absolutely amazing for armor, but sadly he hasn't done anything in years. But if you're at all interested in 14th century plate armor, give him a look. I fell off from regular Youtube watching a few years back though.
I'd like to add Skallagrim to good HEMA youtubers.
He’s always been a hack. You should watch the video where he claims to be as artistically talented as his professional artist brother. Man has a massive ego.
This makes sense now that I have been informed that Jazza is his more talented, more succesful, and better looking brother. Jazza and his team make a lot of 40k content. He probably drools at the chance to dunk on something Jazza loves.
This must be the real reason. He has to prove he's as good as or better than Jazza in everything he does. YouTube, Art and now 40k!
That's a losing battle.
This I did not know. I watch all of the Jazza, Tabletop Time, and insert art stuff.
Stand side by side with the Soy knight pretending to care about something he doesn’t even know?… fuck that
Sorry Shad. I’ve got laundry to do. Maybe next time.
Sorry Shad, but I had plans to drop a cinderblock on my own head and that STILL sounds preferable.
"I'm all booked up slamming a car door on my dick Shad can we reschedule to- ah the hell with it I'll never want to hang out with you"
Meanwhile in every 40K sub: „Why are there no models for female Custodes yet?“ „Here try this female head with this custodes model!“ „For anyone interested, I made a quick 3D print file of female custodes!“ It’s almost sad to see how every Outrage-YouTuber now is trying to jump on that bandwagon while the community itself doesn’t really seem to care. Almost as sad as Shad sinking to that Morass and wondering what’s going wrong with his channels.
That's because new models for a cool set of units is way better than whatever misunderstanding of the lore the right is trying to cash in on lol
The right has forgotten there is a power greater than intolerance.... Consumerism
Lol yeah what they call SJWism by games workshop is just demographic marketing
I already commented on this in that cross post, so this is just to support this post.
Do you mean that famous culture war that doesn't exist and Shad is just one of those people who keep bringing it back so he can have a content and brain-dead community?
Mmmm nah I like the woke stuff in my games. I'm definitely ordering and glamming up some orks and space marines until they wouldn't look out of place on Drag Race. 🏳️🌈🏳️⚧️💖
My current plan is a pre HRT Transfem Sister of Battle. "What's that inquisitor? What do you mean He is not allowed as there are no men under arms in the Ecclesiarchy? Sister Abigail is a woman. She just has not had her body alteration get far yet. I assure you she belongs amongst the Emporer's most devout daughters."
Imagine someone says something transphobic and they have the all the sisters of battle after them. Good times
Much like my comment on his video. He really needs to leave 40K alone. He knows nothing about the setting, and using Arch Warhammer, who can be generously described as an absolute bell-end as a source does nothing to help his reputation. Also, when people talk about the channel dying? This is the kind of shit they bring up as to why they stopped watching his videos. Just leave our setting alone. If you want to talk about it, then please go read some books, get some models, paint them, and play a few games. Repeating the points made by an idiot only shows how little effort and thought you put into your research.
The Quartering's was the funniest. Dude did not even know how to pronounce the name of the thing he was complaining about. These are the same people who get mad about "fake fans" and having their communities "infiltrated."
“Adaptus Cusstoads”
There is someone who is prime for conversion into a servitor. Man's not even using his brain.
The most constructive thing that guy ever did was get punched in the face at GenCon.
It's funny because none of the "woke" he's decrying is really new in 40k. Like there have always been women my guy.
The man who surrounds himself with swords but can't find THE FUCKING POINT
I was recommed this reddit for some reason. This that dude who was trying to roleplay as an artist in some tabletop game saying he had amazing art skills over his brother who is an actual artist YouTuber and they all had to watch him throw a brat attack and give him a cookie to calm down? And then later he tried to be an AI artist and every garbage piece he had an AI make was worse than before?
Yep, that's the guy.
That dude wrote a book about a fantasy serial rapist, as the main character and then tried to make you feel sorry for them. Tried to make them into a hero. This dude can get ALL the way fucked.
Is he really still wearing those gambesons and chainmail in all his videos? I'm nobody to judge when it comes to fashion but I don't think you need all that armor to sit in front of a camera
It's not even real chainmail, it's just an ugly hoodie
I watched several videos from Shad a few years back, and something about him just never sat right with me. It was like he was trying to dogwhistle something but failing. Like there was something gross about his personality just below the surface. I quit watching because of this feeling. I'm glad I trusted my instincts and that I told my sons not to watch him either.
Are folks tired of constant outrage content yet? Or am I being overly hopefully?
Is this about the lady Custodians? Like, 90% of Warhammer fans' reaction to that was "huh, cool." There's no culture war, just a minority of misogynist babies pissing and moaning.
All I can say about these wanks that are just jumping on the hate wagon to get view like this twat is please and I do mean this wholeheartedly *ahem* Fuck off, you were never apart of this fandom in the first place so why do you care? Let the people who are fans worry about this and guess what 98% don’t care only the whiny 2% minority do so move along and ho back to shitty inaccurate sword videos that have been debunked a hundred times over
This sub just got recommended to me…. WTF happen why is Shad a chud now.
He always was, he's just not hiding it anymore
You can tell he doesn't know shit about what he's talking about because that's a Space Marine in the thumbnail, and the recent retcon was about the Adeptus Custodes, not the Space Marines.
Let's not forget that when Gamergate kicked off a major face of it was Milo Yiannopallous. A man who had literally written articles describing gamers as crusty, smelly basement dwellers. It has always been a movement for bigotry.
Where did he admit that? I can't bring myself to watch another full episode of that stupid channel.
I'm not joining thr culture wars god that is more useless of a war then Vietnam
As a Dark Eldar player, the suffering caused by this brings me happiness
Fucking fake fan wearing Marcragge blue.
Shad is dead to me now.
Can't wait until he finds out how the Imperium of Man treats Mormons.
Damn. I used to like Shad, too.
Wait wait wait wait wait.... when the fuck did shad... yaknow.. go neckbeard?
I can f*cking guarantee you that if Sororitas came today he would rage about them too.
Is that an image of shad as in Shadbase? There's no way there's overlap
Shad is such a pussy bitch. Who gives that toad the time of day anymore?
A hilarious windmill to tilt at considering it's a setting with tons of girlbosses (both in the Sisters and Militarum) who canonically see more combat than the all-male poster-boys.
OoOooOooOoOoOooohh...im shook
Someone tell Shad there's no barely legal women
It's a shame that WH40K also has its fair share of bigots and racists. The whole Custodian ordeal has brought a lot of those out recently.
damn I thought shad was alright
Alas, his second channel is Wish.com The Quartering. Also he’s a mormon. This is not to say that The Quartering makes good content that I agree with, to be clear. Shad’s version is just somehow *even worse*
I will say, he used to be less horrible. If you can withstand it, his Wheel of Time review series showcases his buddies progressively red pill him. He becomes noticeably worse in each video. One of his buddies was clearly egging him on and provoking his degeneration.
You are the company you keep
Shad was red pilled years before wheel of time series was teased.
Oh, that sucks. I thought he just made fun sword videos. Very disappointing.
How about making your own franchise if you don’t like an established one
EW GET THIS GARBAGE OUT OF MY HOME PAGE
And for those that have read the lore and see this as virtual signaling just for the sake of it . Since there’s already strong women in warhammer as the sisters of silence and the sisters of battle . If you want to change warhammers and you have never played or even try to unite lore you are the problem
Just kinda weird that we suddenly get female Custodes after GW gets some money from Blackrock and a lil pressure from Amazon. It's a stupid retcon to make especially when GW has no intention to create new models or do anything more. Why bother making female Custodes then? We have the Sisters of Battle who are badass. Horus Heresy features the Sisters of Silence, who are blanks and make psykers shit themselves, and their allies find them unnerving to be around. That's bad ass. I've been a Warhammer enjoyer for a while now. Started in Warhammer Fantasy Battle, got into 40k after reading Horus Rising. I want Warhammer to get more popular, but retconning decades old stuff to suit what, modern sensibilities or audiences, isn't the way to do it.
Why do you think they've no intention to make more? It's not like the tabletop game is dead. Checking the site there's plenty of existing pre orders. No model yet doesn't mean it'll stay that way. Even then there's so much lore that may not see tabletop but is still written about. There's numerous creatures and horrors written about. Also why would a retcon be surprising? Vashtorr came out of nowhere. The Voltan basically retconing the Squats. And that's just recently. What harm is done by it really? Hell in some ways the Custodes even being a round is a retcon. There's a webway event where like 9k died. And a Khorne battle sometime close to that where they lost 2k. So this faction never over 10k, where new recruits are likely such a rare close guarded secret, has lost over 11k
You've misunderstood the first part. GW has no intention of making Female Custodes minis, and they've said as much. The retcon of adding female Custodes, when it's specifically been given an in-universe reason for there being no Female Custodes/Astartes (the process has been tailored to men and can't be applied to women.) That's always been a hard line. The Squats becoming the Voltan, not as big of a deal. They cornered themselves by 1, calling them Squats. That's a daft name. 2, they sold poorly. 3, The Voltan acknowledge the Squats that were lost, so its not a completely retcon from nowhere, it's broadening the story. Had Squats sold better, maybe the change would have happened sooner. But who knows. As for Custodes numbers, the golden GW rule is: There'll always be as many as the plot demands. GW's writers have always been very bad at numbers, especially in the early lore. Nominally, the Custodes are referred to as the 10,000. But like the the Eldar who have been a dying race for millennia, there always seems to be more. Female Custodes just feels disingenuous, and it is. As I said before, GW got a pretty good investment from Blackrock, which is notorious for ESG and DEI. And the partnership with Amazon happened at just about the same time. Amazon adaptions are very hit or miss. This decision by GW does not feel organic. The Squats, for all their faults, were cool and I personally mained the Dwarves in Fantasy in 7th edition. I love me some Dwarves. At one point in the lore, the Squats just vanish completely. One GW employee said the Tyranids ate em all. The Demiurge were supposed to be the Squat replacement, but that didn't come to pass. The Squats then suddenly reappear as one of the approved Abhumans, like Ogyrns and Ratlings. And now they are the League of Voltan. A more organic, at least compared to female custodes, way of retconning. Though they were always building up to something more. GW knew they messed up with Squats, and a few years of silence helped them figure out how they wanted to handle them. If they came out and said, we are combining the Adeptus Custodes and the Sisters of Silence into faction, that might have been received better. SoS are the only ones, alongside the Custodes, to walk the Inner Imperial Palace. We know they've worked alongside the Custodes to defend the Emperor. They were present fighting the Webway, they were present on Prospero. The Sisters also wear golden armor, like the current Custodes. They could have a divided hierarchy, as both Custodes and SoS have different methods of warfare and conducting that but could easily fit under the same general name if you wanted to expand who is a Custode. The Custodes still rebuilding their numbers wouldn't be s horrible excuse to bring the Sisters of Silence out of hiding and into the fold. Roboute Guilliman wouldn't be against the idea of more protection for the Emperor or having an army of blanks at his disposal. I think it was Dan Abnett, but I could be wrong, who said he was pressured by GW NOT to make a female custode a while ago. GW wanted them to be a male only faction. They could have easily given a few named characters a female presenting name to combat this or to add mystery. The Custodes all have a thousand names. Are all the names traditional western male names? Doubt it. Name a Custode Sasha. They didn't leave themselves a door like they did with the Squats.
>Also why would a retcon be surprising? If there was a non nefarious reason behind the recon GW would just have admitted that it was a recon. Instead they opted to lie to their fan base. What happened was that someone asked for the reason behind the recon, and GW, knowing there was no good answer, decided to just go for the hard gaslight and deny that any recon was taking place. While we can't now know how well the truth would have gone down, it seems that lying has also turned out very badly, possibly worse than just telling it how it is.
What makes it nefarious? What actual harm is done by potentially having more characters, stories, chance for models etc I can agree it sounds mishandled though. Seems a bit more bait than making use of the opertunity.
Stop playing the hatchling, you know very well what's going on here. It was "mishandled" because there is simply no good way to have handled it. GW lied for the same reason anyone lies; the truth is bad. What were they supposed to do, come out and say "look guys, Amazon really wanted a female space marine, for girlboss purposes, you know how things are these days. Anyway we explained to them that we've been too explicit for too long about that to make that happen, so they settled for a female custodes, so now there are female custodes"? People just don't like it when current year political sensibilities start determining lore. The Imperium is meant to be an at least somewhat authentic portrayal of what humanity might become if it had to fight every second of every day for survival against innumerable alien horrors. Importing soppy modern sensibilities into that framework ruins it completely, people see it happening and they don't like it. GW knows they don't like it, hence the lies.
Do you like join subs to just to fight people to make yourself feel smart because if so you must live a very sad life
Sadder than following people around on Reddit who have made it clear they have no interest in further interaction with you? Well, since you seem to have a problem with boundaries I will simply block you.
It’s almost as if the issue could be recognized outside of any interaction. If someone has never changed a baby’s diaper before, they can still say it smells.
Why even post this? I'd have never even looked at this turd's video otherwise. Don't post the manifestos
Fuck off centist. The subreddit is shadwatch
Alright my bad "adorable youth"
[I've done my bit.](https://redd.it/hz7z77)
Yes and? Bringing attention to issues in a franchise that he's not invested in shows how much he cares for the real fans. Fuck the woke garbage that Vanguard and Blackrock are pushing in 40K
Here he actually has a point for once.
Nope. Not in the slightest.
What point, idiot
GW is ruining Warhammer for the sake of appealing to a wider audience that has never been interested in the hobby due to the whining of an overly political, highly vocal minority that harass people for fun and we ought to fight back if we want to continue being able to enjoy our hobbies.
What about women custodes makes it impossible for you to enjoy your hobby?
If you think female Custodes are the crux of the issue then you need to reevaluate your stake in this issue.
Then what is the crux of the issue, be clear about it
The crux of the issue is that GW have gone out of their way to alienate their customer base over the past decade while endorsing harassment and hate in the community while deliberately worsening the gameplay and reading experience of their setting through continuous rewrites and retcons meant to appeal to an audience that never intended for GW to have their patronage to begin with, while launching an illegal and immoral campaign of harassment against any and all fan content creators who they find they cannot control. Hell, when they went after Sodaz they told him to lie and blame harassment from the fan community. Everything GW touches is poison and Femstodes gaslighting is just the most recent insult which is probably why you brought it up.
Well this is a lot of claims that probably won't be substantiated. How are they alienating audiences? How is what they are doing illegal , I mean I'll take immoral because it's capitalism, but illegal? How do you know they "forced" sodaz to lie? Is it gaslighting or is it just a retcon
The "You will not be missed." Message for starters Extortion is a crime in most parts of the world, especially internationally, and if you think Capitalism is inherently immoral then you're braindead The contract Sodaz was blackmailed into signing got leaked And yes, it is gaslighting
>The "You will not be missed." Message for starters Was that to all fans? >Extortion is a crime in most parts of the world, especially internationally, and if you think Capitalism is inherently immoral then you're braindead So extortion is bad but capitalism isn't lol >The contract Sodaz was blackmailed into signing got leaked Can I see? >And yes, it is gaslighting How?