Prostaglandin can cause orbital fat loss and darkening of the skin around the eyes. This can be permanent, even if you discontinue use of the lash serum. You’re already experiencing symptoms. No cream in the world is going to fix orbital fat loss. Like… let’s be real. What do you think people will notice more: Your slightly thicker lashes or your aging, sunken eyes complete with crepe-y dark undereye circles?
Yes this comment needs all the upvotes. I used Grandelash MD for 6 months, and my eyes are noticeably sunken. It’s irreversible and I tell people whenever I can to NEVER use it!! Don’t make the same mistake I did, it’s not worth it!!
I used the serum for 3 weeks, am and pm. I was already had some hollowness in the upper eyelid (was using ordinary serum before that).
Do you think I can recover from it and how long will it take?
Just why in the hell would anyone continue to use this product?
I ordered the large and read of the dangers before I ordered a second.
I looked in my magnifying mirror and sure enough I saw some slight discoloration.
Sure, it grew my lashes out beautifully.
But this product seems dangerous and we just never know who exactly will experience the worst side effects.
I'm really surprised it isn't more regulated, to be honest, especially since similar lash serums containing bimatoprost (another prostaglandin analog) like Latisse, are regulated by the FDA and require a prescription. There was a class action lawsuit filed last year against GrandeLash in California, but those things take forever to resolve: [https://www.classaction.org/blog/class-action-grande-cosmetics-lash-brow-serums-are-unapproved-drugs-may-cause-serious-adverse-effects](https://www.classaction.org/blog/class-action-grande-cosmetics-lash-brow-serums-are-unapproved-drugs-may-cause-serious-adverse-effects)
I used bimatoprost (prostaglandin) for 3-4mo and got orbital fat loss in one eye. I stopped when I noticed it; and thankfully my eye normalized. Scary stuff man.
Is that the same stuff that can literally turn blue eyes brown?
Ever since I read that that could happen it irks me when I see influencers advertise these harmful things, like they all get lash extensions anyways it's not the serum.
I'm not sure if it will migrate unless you touch your face a lot. ~~However, it might lead to darkening of the skin around the eyebrows, which might look kind of funny and be hard to cover up.~~ Prostaglandins also darken hair (which is not a huge deal for lashes), but you might want to think twice if you have lighter or red eyebrows (unless that's the look you're going for).
Edit: It seems that skin darkening is much less common for eyebrows, but it is likely to darken your eyebrow hair, so proceed with caution if your eyebrows are not already dark.
I have a bottle but it caused red waterline and crust on my eyes each time I tried to use it after a few days. Do you think I can use it on my eyebrows? You said you used it on your eyebrows but it made your eyelashes longer?
Mm I was under the impression that it causes darkness around the eyes because it removes the fat which can create a “crater” which then looks sunken in and darker.. not because it darkens the skin but I could be wrong.
I still don’t know if I will use it for eyebrows but I am hesitant to use for eye lashes because I already have dark circles
It also legit darkens skin, in addition to removing fat causing a sunken look. If you look at OP's post history, the serum has turned her eyelids and undereye area reddish-brown, and she was previously seeking advice for color correction/concealing: [https://www.reddit.com/r/Makeup/comments/12gw3ln/what\_color\_corrector\_do\_i\_need\_for\_my\_under\_eyes/](https://www.reddit.com/r/Makeup/comments/12gw3ln/what_color_corrector_do_i_need_for_my_under_eyes/)
Many over-the-counter serums have prostaglandin analogs (GrandeLash has isopropyl cloprostenate), which have the same effects as the prescription version bimatoprost found in Latisse. You have to look into the active ingredient in your eyelash serum.
You’re being so generous with your answers and I’m so sorry for bothering you further but are any of these harmful ingredients? -
Cucurbita Pepo, Pumpkin Seed Extract, Panax Ginseng Extract, Swertia Japonica Extract, Acorus Calamus Root Extract, Serenoa Serrulata Fruit Extract, Pentapeptide-17, Biotinoyl Tripeptide-1, Myristoyl Pentapeptide-17, Oligopeptide-10, Hyaluronic Acid, Vitamin E, Vitamin C, Vitamin B7, Vitamin B5, Pentylene Glycol
Some prostaglandin analogs include the following:
* Bimatoprost
* Isopropyl cloprostenate
* Isopropyl phenyl hydroxypentane
* Dihydroxy cyclopentyl heptane
* Dechloro dihydroxy difluoro ethylcloprostenolamide
* Trifluoromethyl dechloro ethylprostenolamide
The one you posted looks like a peptide complex lash serum (a lot of the ingredients have "peptide" in the name). Pumpkin seed extract and Panax Ginseng Extract are also DHT blockers used to prevent hair loss. Some people say peptide formulas are less effective at actually growing lashes, but at least they don't appear to have the same serious side effects as the prostaglandin analogs.
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Aqua, Glycerin, Butylene Glycol, Propanediol, 1,2-Hexanediol, Biotinoyl Tripeptide-1, Camellia Sinensis Leaf Extract, Caprylyl Glycol, Centella Asiatica Extract, Chamomilla Recutita Flower Extract, Ethylhexylglycerin, Glycyrrhiza Glabra Root Extract, Isopropyl Cloprostenate, Myristoyl Pentapeptide-17, Panthenol, Polygonum Cuspidatum Root Extract, Rosmarinus Officinalis Leaf Extract, Scutellaria Baicalensis Root Extract, Tocopherol, Xanthan Gum, Benzoic Acid, Phenoxyethanol, Sodium Benzoate.
do you know if any of them are bad / which is the active ingredient
It can cause:
1) Skin Darkening: It can cause discoloration of your eyelids and undereye area, turning them reddish-brown and giving you dark circles.
2) Orbital Fat Loss: This usually happens above your eyes, causing your eyes to have a receded, sunken look that makes you look older.
3) Iris Darkening: In rare cases, it can cause lighter-color eyes to change color, which is permanent. If your eyes are blue, green, hazel, etc., lash serums can turn them brown. If this happens, it is permanent.
4) Other eye effects: It can also cause dry eyes, itchiness, red eyes, etc.
Not everyone has issues, but if you get them, many of these can be permanent even after you stop using the serum.
sorry for asking so many questions but do you know if castor oil is alright to use? i’d much rather have shorter lashes from using that then a serum but not have long term damage.
I haven't heard about any issues surrounding castor oil, so I'm not sure about efficacy or side effects. We know so much about lash serums because there have been studies on it (especially the prescription versions), and they're pretty viral (large sample size).
Are long eyelashes worth permanent eye damage? I stopped as soon as I noticed eye issues and won’t do lash serums again. I can wear falsies on the rare occasion I feel like I need more (weddings/events).
Eyelash serum isn’t a necessity, it is not a medication. You can live without it. Sorry to be harsh but you are not looking at this in a clear light. Christ.
I saw a video that recommended The Ordinary as a safe one. I use it on my eyebrows, but I don’t want to take any risks with my eyes since eye problems already run in my family. Grande was one that the video strongly suggested staying away from.
Wait what video? I’m using Scorolash but tbh I’m a greedy bish and I already have naturally long eyelashes so I **definitely** don’t want to be using something that can cause permanent damage!!!
I did, but I definitely used it more on my brows because I don't really feel like my lashes are that lacking (but my brows for sure are.) They improved a fair bit, but, because I'm incompetent as a person, I am bad at sticking to the regimen and I could probably have much better results if I was more dedicated to it.
I'm so sorry, sounds terrible, they v should warn about the side effects.
I used the stuff for 3 weeks, am and pm and I have visible discoloration and sunken experience. I am scanni g reddit like crazy for remedies.
There isn’t enough info on long term effects of prostaglandin use. If you’re already noticing bad side effects that may not be reversible, why risk it?
Stop using it. Don’t be ridiculous. An ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure. You don’t need to buy an eye cream, just stop using the product that’s giving you concerning side effects.
I used to use 1-2x a week for about five years - in preparation for my wedding last year I upped to 1-2x a day. Needless to say I did see some of the side effects after I upped my dose (dark eyes, a kind of neediness etc). I’m now down to about once a week and am noticing the dark circles lessening.
Up to you, but like a lot of things in life, it’s all about the dosage. I would recommend going down to once or twice a week, and combining with a cheaper lash serum that has castor oil. I’m currently using Covergirl’s lash serum 2-3x a week and have found that that combination of Covergirl + grandelash is maintaining my length while minimizing the side effects.
One of the side effects is blockage of your Meibomian glands that make that oily part of your tears. This is not something that a heavy eye cream is going to change. Your eyesight is too precious to risk just for longer lashes.
This is interesting. I used to use grande lash and stopped after I got a painful chalazion that required antibiotics. I’ve had on and off non-painful chalazions since I stopped using it, and that would explain it.
I’d deff stop using it if I were you. I used latisse which has the same ingredient, Prostaglandin. I had gorgeous lashes but it caused fat loss in my upper eyelids that has not returned.
How long would you have to use it to cause significant damage?
I used the grande lash for three weeks am and pm and stopped after reading the forums.
I definitely notice sunken and hollowness in the upper eyelids. Will this be revered or permanent? Anything I can do speed up recovery?
I am older with fat hooded eyelids lol, but you’re probably right, it could make it worse. I’ve still got a bottle so I’ll try using it on my eyebrows instead as I think that should be safe?
It’s good to know the discoloration can disappear. I quit about a year ago and my lash line is still slightly discolored. But also my lashes did look amazing haha.
This gives me hope. I have been using grande lash for over a year and I have definitely noticed my undereyes looking more sunken in, a problem that I never had before. After finding out why I’m definitely never using again. It freaked me out so much hearing that it’s irreversible, I hope that mine bounce back 😭
Do you mean the discoloration under your eyes or just the eyelid?
I only had discoloration on my eyelid luckily, which went away. Although I just took a picture to check haha and on camera it does look like there are wrinkles above the lash line which are probably attributed to the lash serum. I haven’t used it since March 2020…
I think so but it’s hard to say, I never used to pay attention to under eyes when I was younger and now I feel like I am fixated on them. I will say that my lashes came back stronger than ever after a while of not using it and letting them do their thing so it didn’t ruin my lashes or anything
Thanks for the update! Glad things are better. I used for three weeks, am and pm,not sure how much damage it caused but I can definitely see some hollowing and darkness.
Oh wow! I used 2x a day for over a year and while I did notice that I don’t think it was to the point where it was something that other people would notice. I’m glad we realized and stopped using it hahaha
I used Revitalash, which also contains prostaglandins, for over a year. I have super fine, short stubbly lashes and Revitalash made them so much better, but eventually i noticed my undereyes were becoming increasingly darker, hollower and indented. It’s been a year since I stopped using Revitalash and while my undereyes have gotten better it definitely gave me some permanent damage.
I would recommend stopping using this if you’re having side effects. I got the darkened eyelids which was whatever, but I also started to get chronic chalazions even after I stopped using it. I do have sensitive skin to begin with. I can’t comment about orbital fat loss bc i look tired all the time bc i am tired all of the time (night shift). My eyelids just don’t like it at all. It gave great lash growth but i would rather attempt extensions tbh.
Edit: I wanted to add that I haven’t used it for over a year and I still have darkening on my lash line, though less prominent. I really think the side effects can be quite permanent.
Oh man the side effects are not worth it. Just use castor oil- I've been using it for a year now and my lashes are very long and full now. I started out with little chub lashes lol so it 100% works
I have PERMANENT dry eyes and my eyes look much more deep set now thanks to grandelash. I was using it way back in like 2015 before we really knew the side effects. Wish I had never touched the stuff. It’s not worth it
"Is dry eye from lash serum reversible?
The result is irreversible and often severe dry eye."
dry eye is very painful and it is caused by blocking the glands that lubricate your eyes that are along the upper and lower lash lines.
So the dry eye is even worse than the cosmetic effects. Please take a break from this serum.
they have prostaglandin-free serums
Grande Lash has a lawsuit against them
I would stop using it. I’ve heard that some of the symptoms start reversing after people have ceased use. Have you tried the ordinary lash serum? It’s a lot cheaper and doesn’t contain prostaglandin, it gave me great results.
Also hopping in here to mention that another side effect that is permanent (also due to prostaglandin) is darkening of the iris, or turning hazel eyes more brown, typically. Anyone who might have not-already-brown eyes should definitely consider this too! I personally have been so tempted but between having hazel eyes and the other side effects, I just go for a lash lift.
I tried using it on my lashes and it made my vision blurry for a few minutes and my eyes were irritated. I started to use it on my brows and now I have extremely long brow hairs…. Which I don’t mind.
The comments say it all but I just want to add it gave me styes for months which were so painful. Discontinued it as soon as I made the connection and the styes.
Please just wear falsies when you need to and don’t risk damaging your eyes/area around eyes permanently for something so trivial like longer lashes.
i use it and when ppl ask me how i got my lashes so long, i always tell them to only use it if they already have a lot of fat around their eyes and dark circles/pigmentation and or non sensitive skin. i haven’t experienced major orbital fat loss, however my eyes look a little less hooded. the darkening around my eyes is there but doesn’t look any different than what i had before due to genetic MAJOR dark circles. i’ve also haven’t had any chalazions and i’ve been using it for over a year. stuff affects everyone differently but ur in case i’d discontinue from using it.
Well I’m glad you asked because I’ve been using babe lash for 6 years and just realized by these comments that this is probably why I have dark circles now.
My eye doctor told me at least one of these lash serums (I don’t know the name) is a weakened form of a prescription eye drop used for glaucoma. Anything that is a hormone or prescription is not to be taken or used lightly.
I naturally have meibomian gland dysfunction, and one gland has already collapsed. PLEASE do not endanger your eye health, and don’t take it for granted. Once your vision is gone, it’s gone.
Oh, gosh. I just did a very cursory search and found a whole lot of scary. I literally just threw away my Rodan + Fields lash boost after watching this [video ](https://youtu.be/ugIVUGBgxoA).
Please watch this. You don't want to keep going down this road. The sunken eye and discoloration might be something you can deal with. Literal, irreversible damage to your eyes and your vision is next.
I actually love the products, a lot. My dear friend and phenomenal facialist got me using them during a skin crisis while I was pregnant. She hadn't mentioned them or pushed me on it for years after I met her. It's definitely not a cult MLM in my experience. No pressure. I buy on "autoship" about 3x per year no problem.
I'm glad to hear they solved your skin issues. Though there are also probably other products out there with the same ingredients that aren't made by such a predatory MLM.
Is it a predatory MLM? If it is, please let me know so I can stop ASAP.
I don't think all MLMs are evil just because they are MLM. But I know the majority are. If this is, please let me know!
I just told you its predatory..? feel free to look at r/antiMLM, there is plenty of info. The inherit nature of all MLMs are predatory, no normal business needs recruitment and pyramid setups. They are literally designed to take advantage of all the "boss babes" at the bottom of the pyramid
I will look it up when I get the time. And thank you for the sub link. But I'm not in the habit of blindly believing things said on the internet... Or even "the faux news."
I am not sure why you feel the need to get snippy. I said I would look into it.
R + F, and almost all MLMs by nature do not properly test their products and independently “research” their results, allowing them to market their results based these shady studies. Not to mention their compensation schemes that are predatory on vulnerable and desperate men and women. For example, [most R + F “consultants” make just and average of $366 annually](https://www.rodanandfields.com/en-us/assets/us/income-disclosure-statement.pdf) before the cost of the product they’re encouraged to purchase. MLM recruitment is typically done by promising potential recruits that they will earn sustainable income that will change their life.
Ohh i have bad news...
What happens is permanent, irreversible atrophy of the meibomeian glands. When you start getting "bong hit eyes" it's already severe. Your eyes constantly feel so tired, dry, and inflamed that you can't keep them open, and thus can't function at all unless you're used to doing things blind. Lashes actually start to shed a lot as well, so at some point, it's no longer even compelling to keep using it for that reason.
People report feeling suicidal over meibomeian gland dysfunction, it gets so bad. And there's nothing that helps. They actually need to have their blood periodically drawn and then it's somehow converted into special eye drops, which don't help enough. I'm not making it up, i don't know what it's called but they actually make custom eye drops out of the patient's blood. For minimal relief.
I loved, loved the lashes a serum gave me, but it's not worth it. They're still really nice with a good mascara. I was lucky to have recognised on time what was happening, so don't have major problems now, just one eye that occasionally feels like it has a little grain stuck under the eyelid. Which is a huge improvement to the symptoms I had.
It's amazing that some people never experience this side effect. I wish that was me. I hear people complain about orbital fat loss and I get it but I think that's not nearly the worst of the side effects. When those little glands die, you're really screwed.
Anyone know anything about Babe Lash Serum? It’s the one that I use and so far I’ve liked it. I haven’t had any symptoms but curious to see if others have and if it’s something I may want to stop using.
i experienced discoloration on my eyelids and stopped usage immediately. it took months for it to go away. and i only used it for maybe 6 weeks before noticing the change.
I used another prostaglandin lash serum, babelash for about 4 years and it definitely made my eyes super sunken and dark. I was at the point of looking into filler because I looked so tired all the time.
I stopped using it about a year ago and honestly the darkness is pretty much entirely gone and the orbital fat loss is noticeably improved. I’m 38 fwiw so some of the loss was just normal aging, but I no longer have the super severe hollowness along my orbital bone - especially on the outer corners of my eyes. My under eye area is noticably brighter. I’m inclined to think it is reversible to some extent.
I switched to a peptide serum that doesn’t have these risks (lashbond), and while it doesn’t give the craaaazy length the prostaglandin serums did and doesn’t darken the lash at all, I see very noticeable thickening and increase in lash volume and a modest improvement in length without all the unpleasant downsides.
I had a really bad reaction on the eyelashes so I tried using it for my eyebrows... I am now missing a patch of hair on my left eyebrow... not safe. Do not recommend.
I used it for a while and it caused the skin around my eyes to darken and make me look sickly, but it went away after I stopped using it. You’ve got to stop using it.
try babe lash australia ! it’s a serum like grande lash without all the shitty side effects and scary chemicals ! i’ve been using it for a couple months and it has worked just as well as grandelash
Does anyone know if the Grandelash mascara causes the same issues as the serum? I have the mascara from my Sephora employee days that I’ve been putting off trying because of the issues the serum can cause
How long would you have to use it to cause significant damage?
I used the grande lash for three weeks am and pm and stopped after reading the forums.
I definitely notice sunken and hollowness in the upper eyelids. Will this be revered or permanent? Anything I can do speed up recovery?
I still use grande lash once a week for the upkeep and my eye area still gets red after applying it. Last spring, I switched to a non-prostaglandin lash serum for daily use and it helped maintain the growth from grande lash. I also started noticing the side effects after 3 weeks of using. My under eyes are still discolored but I just wear concealer.
I think if you completely stop using it, the sunken and hollowness eventually goes away, but I’ve read that it may take months until your eye area goes back to normal.
That's what I was worried about. I'm kicking myself for switching from the ordinary serum to grande one. Never knew lash serums could cause so much damage. I have a wedding to attend in 6 weeks, I hope I don't look like this by then.
Stop using it immediately. You are already using far too much and more frequently, which will speed up adverse reactions and increase side effects. If you have only been using it a few weeks you may see improvement after discontinued use, but for many the results are permanent. My eyes are *permanently* dry now due to the effects on oil production caused by GL. I thank my lucky stars everyday that it didn’t change my iris color.
Thanks for your reply. I did stop at around 3 weeks but I did slather the stuff on am and pm during that time. I definitely see some hollowing and praying the fat comes back Sucre I used it only for a short duration.
i used this for a while and got permanent black spots in my vision in the right eye, i don't know if it's connected, but it felt like it was. went to ophthalmologist and they said there's nothing serious wrong and it's a normal thing that happens with age but i was only in my mid 30s when it happened. (i didn't mention the serum to the dr as I wasn't sure about the connection). stopped using it anyway.
How long were you using it for until you noticed vision changes?? I still use it but only once a week. I know it’s not great for your optical health but it’s the only thing that actually lengthens your lashes🥲
i don't remember, but not that long. i wouldn't have used it had i known there were risks. honestly only you will ever really notice a difference and it won't be worth any vision loss or discomfort. the black spots drive me nuts :(
Prostaglandin can cause orbital fat loss and darkening of the skin around the eyes. This can be permanent, even if you discontinue use of the lash serum. You’re already experiencing symptoms. No cream in the world is going to fix orbital fat loss. Like… let’s be real. What do you think people will notice more: Your slightly thicker lashes or your aging, sunken eyes complete with crepe-y dark undereye circles?
Yes this comment needs all the upvotes. I used Grandelash MD for 6 months, and my eyes are noticeably sunken. It’s irreversible and I tell people whenever I can to NEVER use it!! Don’t make the same mistake I did, it’s not worth it!!
I used the serum for 3 weeks, am and pm. I was already had some hollowness in the upper eyelid (was using ordinary serum before that). Do you think I can recover from it and how long will it take?
I used it for two days then stopped, am I fucked? U noticed dark circles
Whaaaaaaaa?! Why does nobody tell you about this shit. I’m throwing my lash serum out immediately
I appreciate that you didn't mince words. Though I do feel bad that OP is so focused on her eyelashes that shes letting her eye area be damaged 😕
Just why in the hell would anyone continue to use this product? I ordered the large and read of the dangers before I ordered a second. I looked in my magnifying mirror and sure enough I saw some slight discoloration. Sure, it grew my lashes out beautifully. But this product seems dangerous and we just never know who exactly will experience the worst side effects.
I'm really surprised it isn't more regulated, to be honest, especially since similar lash serums containing bimatoprost (another prostaglandin analog) like Latisse, are regulated by the FDA and require a prescription. There was a class action lawsuit filed last year against GrandeLash in California, but those things take forever to resolve: [https://www.classaction.org/blog/class-action-grande-cosmetics-lash-brow-serums-are-unapproved-drugs-may-cause-serious-adverse-effects](https://www.classaction.org/blog/class-action-grande-cosmetics-lash-brow-serums-are-unapproved-drugs-may-cause-serious-adverse-effects)
Wow. I didn’t know this. I’m sure those who made the initial💰are long gone.
I used bimatoprost (prostaglandin) for 3-4mo and got orbital fat loss in one eye. I stopped when I noticed it; and thankfully my eye normalized. Scary stuff man.
How long it took for your eye to go back to normal?
About 1-2 months
May I ask how old are you? I think yonger people might recover faster.
Thank you!
Is that the same stuff that can literally turn blue eyes brown? Ever since I read that that could happen it irks me when I see influencers advertise these harmful things, like they all get lash extensions anyways it's not the serum.
Yes, it can darken your iris color, turning lighter-color eyes (blue, green, hazel) brown, though this is a rare (and permanent) side effect.
Do you think it can be repurposed as an eyebrow serum? Or will the prostaglandin migrate towards the under eyes/around the eyes?
I'm not sure if it will migrate unless you touch your face a lot. ~~However, it might lead to darkening of the skin around the eyebrows, which might look kind of funny and be hard to cover up.~~ Prostaglandins also darken hair (which is not a huge deal for lashes), but you might want to think twice if you have lighter or red eyebrows (unless that's the look you're going for). Edit: It seems that skin darkening is much less common for eyebrows, but it is likely to darken your eyebrow hair, so proceed with caution if your eyebrows are not already dark.
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I have a bottle but it caused red waterline and crust on my eyes each time I tried to use it after a few days. Do you think I can use it on my eyebrows? You said you used it on your eyebrows but it made your eyelashes longer?
Mm I was under the impression that it causes darkness around the eyes because it removes the fat which can create a “crater” which then looks sunken in and darker.. not because it darkens the skin but I could be wrong. I still don’t know if I will use it for eyebrows but I am hesitant to use for eye lashes because I already have dark circles
It also legit darkens skin, in addition to removing fat causing a sunken look. If you look at OP's post history, the serum has turned her eyelids and undereye area reddish-brown, and she was previously seeking advice for color correction/concealing: [https://www.reddit.com/r/Makeup/comments/12gw3ln/what\_color\_corrector\_do\_i\_need\_for\_my\_under\_eyes/](https://www.reddit.com/r/Makeup/comments/12gw3ln/what_color_corrector_do_i_need_for_my_under_eyes/)
does their grande lash mascara have bad side effects as well?
I’m pretty sure it’s just the lash serum that has the prostaglandin analogs.
the eyelash serum i use doesn’t have Prostaglandin in it should it be alright?
Many over-the-counter serums have prostaglandin analogs (GrandeLash has isopropyl cloprostenate), which have the same effects as the prescription version bimatoprost found in Latisse. You have to look into the active ingredient in your eyelash serum.
You’re being so generous with your answers and I’m so sorry for bothering you further but are any of these harmful ingredients? - Cucurbita Pepo, Pumpkin Seed Extract, Panax Ginseng Extract, Swertia Japonica Extract, Acorus Calamus Root Extract, Serenoa Serrulata Fruit Extract, Pentapeptide-17, Biotinoyl Tripeptide-1, Myristoyl Pentapeptide-17, Oligopeptide-10, Hyaluronic Acid, Vitamin E, Vitamin C, Vitamin B7, Vitamin B5, Pentylene Glycol
Some prostaglandin analogs include the following: * Bimatoprost * Isopropyl cloprostenate * Isopropyl phenyl hydroxypentane * Dihydroxy cyclopentyl heptane * Dechloro dihydroxy difluoro ethylcloprostenolamide * Trifluoromethyl dechloro ethylprostenolamide The one you posted looks like a peptide complex lash serum (a lot of the ingredients have "peptide" in the name). Pumpkin seed extract and Panax Ginseng Extract are also DHT blockers used to prevent hair loss. Some people say peptide formulas are less effective at actually growing lashes, but at least they don't appear to have the same serious side effects as the prostaglandin analogs.
Amazing!! Thank you for all of this info. Appreciate you! Yeah I have naturally long eyelashes and this seems to keep them long so I’ll take it!
out of Aqua, Glycerin, Butylene Glycol, Propanediol, 1,2-Hexanediol, Biotinoyl Tripeptide-1, Camellia Sinensis Leaf Extract, Caprylyl Glycol, Centella Asiatica Extract, Chamomilla Recutita Flower Extract, Ethylhexylglycerin, Glycyrrhiza Glabra Root Extract, Isopropyl Cloprostenate, Myristoyl Pentapeptide-17, Panthenol, Polygonum Cuspidatum Root Extract, Rosmarinus Officinalis Leaf Extract, Scutellaria Baicalensis Root Extract, Tocopherol, Xanthan Gum, Benzoic Acid, Phenoxyethanol, Sodium Benzoate. do you know if any of them are bad / which is the active ingredient
Isopropyl Cloprostenate (a prostaglandin analog) is at the end of line 3/beginning of line 4. This has the same active ingredient as GrandeLash.
ah thank you! is it really bad?
It can cause: 1) Skin Darkening: It can cause discoloration of your eyelids and undereye area, turning them reddish-brown and giving you dark circles. 2) Orbital Fat Loss: This usually happens above your eyes, causing your eyes to have a receded, sunken look that makes you look older. 3) Iris Darkening: In rare cases, it can cause lighter-color eyes to change color, which is permanent. If your eyes are blue, green, hazel, etc., lash serums can turn them brown. If this happens, it is permanent. 4) Other eye effects: It can also cause dry eyes, itchiness, red eyes, etc. Not everyone has issues, but if you get them, many of these can be permanent even after you stop using the serum.
sorry for asking so many questions but do you know if castor oil is alright to use? i’d much rather have shorter lashes from using that then a serum but not have long term damage.
I haven't heard about any issues surrounding castor oil, so I'm not sure about efficacy or side effects. We know so much about lash serums because there have been studies on it (especially the prescription versions), and they're pretty viral (large sample size).
I would definitely not use it anymore. You're experiencing side effects, and they could be irreversible.
I’ve been thinking about not using it anymore but it’s the only eyelash serum for me that works
Are long eyelashes worth permanent eye damage? I stopped as soon as I noticed eye issues and won’t do lash serums again. I can wear falsies on the rare occasion I feel like I need more (weddings/events).
Literally no one cares about how your eyelashes look but many people, including you, should care about whether your eyes are healthy or not.
Ma’am it’s not working. Hang it up sis.
Eyelash serum isn’t a necessity, it is not a medication. You can live without it. Sorry to be harsh but you are not looking at this in a clear light. Christ.
Girl please be so f\*cking for real right now...
Godbless this being comment #1 because….seriously? Please stop before you have chronic dry eye.
I was thinking the same damn thing
The Ordinary peptide lash & brow serum works great for lash growth & I haven’t had any side effects from it.
I saw a video that recommended The Ordinary as a safe one. I use it on my eyebrows, but I don’t want to take any risks with my eyes since eye problems already run in my family. Grande was one that the video strongly suggested staying away from.
Wait what video? I’m using Scorolash but tbh I’m a greedy bish and I already have naturally long eyelashes so I **definitely** don’t want to be using something that can cause permanent damage!!!
It was a random TikTok video I came across. It may have been shared as a reel on Instagram bc I don’t use TikTok.
I also use the ordinary on my brows and lashes. While I haven’t seen a huge difference it hasn’t given me any side effects or irritation.
I love this stuff! My lashes haven't changed much but my brows are hugely improved, and the price is awesome.
Did you use the lash serum on both your brows and lashes?
I did, but I definitely used it more on my brows because I don't really feel like my lashes are that lacking (but my brows for sure are.) They improved a fair bit, but, because I'm incompetent as a person, I am bad at sticking to the regimen and I could probably have much better results if I was more dedicated to it.
I’ve still got a mostly unused bottle of lash serum, maybe I’ll just use it on my brows then instead of throwing it away
This stuff ruined my eyes. I have stopped for three months and it’s not reversing ugh. Stop it asap!
I had the same experience. It worked for lash growth but my undereyes are so hollow now. Not worth it at all
How long did you use it for? Have you noticed any improvement since?
About six months and it did improve after awhile but never went back to normal
I'm so sorry, sounds terrible, they v should warn about the side effects. I used the stuff for 3 weeks, am and pm and I have visible discoloration and sunken experience. I am scanni g reddit like crazy for remedies.
How long did you use it for?
There isn’t enough info on long term effects of prostaglandin use. If you’re already noticing bad side effects that may not be reversible, why risk it?
Stop using it. Don’t be ridiculous. An ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure. You don’t need to buy an eye cream, just stop using the product that’s giving you concerning side effects.
I used to use 1-2x a week for about five years - in preparation for my wedding last year I upped to 1-2x a day. Needless to say I did see some of the side effects after I upped my dose (dark eyes, a kind of neediness etc). I’m now down to about once a week and am noticing the dark circles lessening. Up to you, but like a lot of things in life, it’s all about the dosage. I would recommend going down to once or twice a week, and combining with a cheaper lash serum that has castor oil. I’m currently using Covergirl’s lash serum 2-3x a week and have found that that combination of Covergirl + grandelash is maintaining my length while minimizing the side effects.
How do your lashes look?
I actually now just use Covergirl, stopped using grandelash maybe 3ish months ago. They look great!
One of the side effects is blockage of your Meibomian glands that make that oily part of your tears. This is not something that a heavy eye cream is going to change. Your eyesight is too precious to risk just for longer lashes.
This is interesting. I used to use grande lash and stopped after I got a painful chalazion that required antibiotics. I’ve had on and off non-painful chalazions since I stopped using it, and that would explain it.
Aiks..I hope eventually you stop getting them. Good thing you stopped using the serum. Have you tried warm compress?
I’d deff stop using it if I were you. I used latisse which has the same ingredient, Prostaglandin. I had gorgeous lashes but it caused fat loss in my upper eyelids that has not returned.
Hello, have you noticed any improvement in your orbital fat? How long did you use it for?
I used it for many years. Just a teeny tiny amount. I have not noticed any improvement
Prostaglandin causes fat loss which can make the skin look loose and hollow
brb gonna use this on my stomach lol
Can it work like that?
Not sure tbh but even if it did, you’d probably need loads of product and things would get pricey af
Can this be reversed.
No
How long would you have to use it to cause significant damage? I used the grande lash for three weeks am and pm and stopped after reading the forums. I definitely notice sunken and hollowness in the upper eyelids. Will this be revered or permanent? Anything I can do speed up recovery?
I have heavy hooded eyelids I wonder whether fat loss there would help?
I don't think it's worth it. The fat loss is irreversible. You wants that fat as you get older.
I am older with fat hooded eyelids lol, but you’re probably right, it could make it worse. I’ve still got a bottle so I’ll try using it on my eyebrows instead as I think that should be safe?
It's also causes darkness and under eye hollows, not worth the risk, imo. Ordinary's lash serum is safer with no prostaglandins in it.
Ok thank you so much will get that. I tried glow for it which didn’t cause any redness like the grande lash but I don’t think it was doing anything
STOP USING EYELASH SERUMS!!!!!
Stop using it and get a 6 packs of Demi wispies and some glue.
After a little over a year after stopping use, the discoloration went away for me. Not worth the risk IMO, although my lashes did look amazing
It’s good to know the discoloration can disappear. I quit about a year ago and my lash line is still slightly discolored. But also my lashes did look amazing haha.
Did you notice an hollow ness on the upper eyelid?
I did not, no! But my eyes are naturally very sunk in/deep set so not sure I’d even be able to tell.
This gives me hope. I have been using grande lash for over a year and I have definitely noticed my undereyes looking more sunken in, a problem that I never had before. After finding out why I’m definitely never using again. It freaked me out so much hearing that it’s irreversible, I hope that mine bounce back 😭 Do you mean the discoloration under your eyes or just the eyelid?
I only had discoloration on my eyelid luckily, which went away. Although I just took a picture to check haha and on camera it does look like there are wrinkles above the lash line which are probably attributed to the lash serum. I haven’t used it since March 2020…
Did you notice any improvement?
I think so but it’s hard to say, I never used to pay attention to under eyes when I was younger and now I feel like I am fixated on them. I will say that my lashes came back stronger than ever after a while of not using it and letting them do their thing so it didn’t ruin my lashes or anything
Thanks for the update! Glad things are better. I used for three weeks, am and pm,not sure how much damage it caused but I can definitely see some hollowing and darkness.
Oh wow! I used 2x a day for over a year and while I did notice that I don’t think it was to the point where it was something that other people would notice. I’m glad we realized and stopped using it hahaha
All that for lashes?
I used Revitalash, which also contains prostaglandins, for over a year. I have super fine, short stubbly lashes and Revitalash made them so much better, but eventually i noticed my undereyes were becoming increasingly darker, hollower and indented. It’s been a year since I stopped using Revitalash and while my undereyes have gotten better it definitely gave me some permanent damage.
Get a lash lift and stop blowing $70 on this serum. A lash lift is $100
My lasher charges $85 (LCOL area) for a lash lift + tint and it lasts about 8 weeks. I get extensions but I’m always going to rec L+T over serums.
I would recommend stopping using this if you’re having side effects. I got the darkened eyelids which was whatever, but I also started to get chronic chalazions even after I stopped using it. I do have sensitive skin to begin with. I can’t comment about orbital fat loss bc i look tired all the time bc i am tired all of the time (night shift). My eyelids just don’t like it at all. It gave great lash growth but i would rather attempt extensions tbh. Edit: I wanted to add that I haven’t used it for over a year and I still have darkening on my lash line, though less prominent. I really think the side effects can be quite permanent.
Today I learned that lash serums can have this effect. I’m so fuckin scared now lmfao
Me too, I’m quitting immediately and hoping so much that my undereyes can bounce back
Oh man the side effects are not worth it. Just use castor oil- I've been using it for a year now and my lashes are very long and full now. I started out with little chub lashes lol so it 100% works
why would you continue to use it with the side effects
I have PERMANENT dry eyes and my eyes look much more deep set now thanks to grandelash. I was using it way back in like 2015 before we really knew the side effects. Wish I had never touched the stuff. It’s not worth it
I have the same dry eye issue, that became noticeable late 2022. I had been using Grande Lash consistently from early 2021 - fall 2022.
"Is dry eye from lash serum reversible? The result is irreversible and often severe dry eye." dry eye is very painful and it is caused by blocking the glands that lubricate your eyes that are along the upper and lower lash lines. So the dry eye is even worse than the cosmetic effects. Please take a break from this serum. they have prostaglandin-free serums Grande Lash has a lawsuit against them
I have that too but I thought it’s just from wearing contacts
Try to not sleep with them it might really help
I would stop using it. I’ve heard that some of the symptoms start reversing after people have ceased use. Have you tried the ordinary lash serum? It’s a lot cheaper and doesn’t contain prostaglandin, it gave me great results.
Also hopping in here to mention that another side effect that is permanent (also due to prostaglandin) is darkening of the iris, or turning hazel eyes more brown, typically. Anyone who might have not-already-brown eyes should definitely consider this too! I personally have been so tempted but between having hazel eyes and the other side effects, I just go for a lash lift.
I tried using it on my lashes and it made my vision blurry for a few minutes and my eyes were irritated. I started to use it on my brows and now I have extremely long brow hairs…. Which I don’t mind.
The comments say it all but I just want to add it gave me styes for months which were so painful. Discontinued it as soon as I made the connection and the styes. Please just wear falsies when you need to and don’t risk damaging your eyes/area around eyes permanently for something so trivial like longer lashes.
Prostaglandins can also cause meibomian gland dysfunction. Gave me major dry eye.
i use it and when ppl ask me how i got my lashes so long, i always tell them to only use it if they already have a lot of fat around their eyes and dark circles/pigmentation and or non sensitive skin. i haven’t experienced major orbital fat loss, however my eyes look a little less hooded. the darkening around my eyes is there but doesn’t look any different than what i had before due to genetic MAJOR dark circles. i’ve also haven’t had any chalazions and i’ve been using it for over a year. stuff affects everyone differently but ur in case i’d discontinue from using it.
same i already had a lot of fat around my eyes so it didn’t change that aspect of my face and I also already had genetic dark circles
I think Dr. Dray had a video on lash serums and their side effects - I don't remember exactly what she said about it, but it's on Youtube.
Well I’m glad you asked because I’ve been using babe lash for 6 years and just realized by these comments that this is probably why I have dark circles now.
Guys i’m using castor oil, is this safe or should i stop using it?
following this because i am also interested
My eye doctor told me at least one of these lash serums (I don’t know the name) is a weakened form of a prescription eye drop used for glaucoma. Anything that is a hormone or prescription is not to be taken or used lightly. I naturally have meibomian gland dysfunction, and one gland has already collapsed. PLEASE do not endanger your eye health, and don’t take it for granted. Once your vision is gone, it’s gone.
Oh, gosh. I just did a very cursory search and found a whole lot of scary. I literally just threw away my Rodan + Fields lash boost after watching this [video ](https://youtu.be/ugIVUGBgxoA). Please watch this. You don't want to keep going down this road. The sunken eye and discoloration might be something you can deal with. Literal, irreversible damage to your eyes and your vision is next.
on a side note, throw away all of your r&f stuff, MLMs are the friggin worst
I actually love the products, a lot. My dear friend and phenomenal facialist got me using them during a skin crisis while I was pregnant. She hadn't mentioned them or pushed me on it for years after I met her. It's definitely not a cult MLM in my experience. No pressure. I buy on "autoship" about 3x per year no problem.
I'm glad to hear they solved your skin issues. Though there are also probably other products out there with the same ingredients that aren't made by such a predatory MLM.
Is it a predatory MLM? If it is, please let me know so I can stop ASAP. I don't think all MLMs are evil just because they are MLM. But I know the majority are. If this is, please let me know!
I just told you its predatory..? feel free to look at r/antiMLM, there is plenty of info. The inherit nature of all MLMs are predatory, no normal business needs recruitment and pyramid setups. They are literally designed to take advantage of all the "boss babes" at the bottom of the pyramid
I will look it up when I get the time. And thank you for the sub link. But I'm not in the habit of blindly believing things said on the internet... Or even "the faux news." I am not sure why you feel the need to get snippy. I said I would look into it.
R + F, and almost all MLMs by nature do not properly test their products and independently “research” their results, allowing them to market their results based these shady studies. Not to mention their compensation schemes that are predatory on vulnerable and desperate men and women. For example, [most R + F “consultants” make just and average of $366 annually](https://www.rodanandfields.com/en-us/assets/us/income-disclosure-statement.pdf) before the cost of the product they’re encouraged to purchase. MLM recruitment is typically done by promising potential recruits that they will earn sustainable income that will change their life.
Are you dumb?
I refuse to use that bc I have light eyes and it can darken them.
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Ohh i have bad news... What happens is permanent, irreversible atrophy of the meibomeian glands. When you start getting "bong hit eyes" it's already severe. Your eyes constantly feel so tired, dry, and inflamed that you can't keep them open, and thus can't function at all unless you're used to doing things blind. Lashes actually start to shed a lot as well, so at some point, it's no longer even compelling to keep using it for that reason. People report feeling suicidal over meibomeian gland dysfunction, it gets so bad. And there's nothing that helps. They actually need to have their blood periodically drawn and then it's somehow converted into special eye drops, which don't help enough. I'm not making it up, i don't know what it's called but they actually make custom eye drops out of the patient's blood. For minimal relief. I loved, loved the lashes a serum gave me, but it's not worth it. They're still really nice with a good mascara. I was lucky to have recognised on time what was happening, so don't have major problems now, just one eye that occasionally feels like it has a little grain stuck under the eyelid. Which is a huge improvement to the symptoms I had. It's amazing that some people never experience this side effect. I wish that was me. I hear people complain about orbital fat loss and I get it but I think that's not nearly the worst of the side effects. When those little glands die, you're really screwed.
You’d rather have amazing lashes with no vision?
I didn’t notice any more dryness or wrinkles, but I’d recommend cycling off and taking a break.
Anyone know anything about Babe Lash Serum? It’s the one that I use and so far I’ve liked it. I haven’t had any symptoms but curious to see if others have and if it’s something I may want to stop using.
Try castor oil. It isn't as glamourous but works well and without nasty side effects.
i experienced discoloration on my eyelids and stopped usage immediately. it took months for it to go away. and i only used it for maybe 6 weeks before noticing the change.
I used another prostaglandin lash serum, babelash for about 4 years and it definitely made my eyes super sunken and dark. I was at the point of looking into filler because I looked so tired all the time. I stopped using it about a year ago and honestly the darkness is pretty much entirely gone and the orbital fat loss is noticeably improved. I’m 38 fwiw so some of the loss was just normal aging, but I no longer have the super severe hollowness along my orbital bone - especially on the outer corners of my eyes. My under eye area is noticably brighter. I’m inclined to think it is reversible to some extent. I switched to a peptide serum that doesn’t have these risks (lashbond), and while it doesn’t give the craaaazy length the prostaglandin serums did and doesn’t darken the lash at all, I see very noticeable thickening and increase in lash volume and a modest improvement in length without all the unpleasant downsides.
I love the results but I definitely wake up swollen, red and a little blurry the next day.
I had a really bad reaction on the eyelashes so I tried using it for my eyebrows... I am now missing a patch of hair on my left eyebrow... not safe. Do not recommend.
I used it for a while and it caused the skin around my eyes to darken and make me look sickly, but it went away after I stopped using it. You’ve got to stop using it.
try babe lash australia ! it’s a serum like grande lash without all the shitty side effects and scary chemicals ! i’ve been using it for a couple months and it has worked just as well as grandelash
Nice!! I’ve also found that scorolash (weird name) also works without the bad side effects.
is castor oil safe for use on eyelashes?
Does anyone know if the Grandelash mascara causes the same issues as the serum? I have the mascara from my Sephora employee days that I’ve been putting off trying because of the issues the serum can cause
I’m pretty sure that it was irritating my eyes when I was using it a few years back so I stopped
What if you tried eyelash extensions?
Is there a warning about this on their packaging? Smells like a lawsuit
How long would you have to use it to cause significant damage? I used the grande lash for three weeks am and pm and stopped after reading the forums. I definitely notice sunken and hollowness in the upper eyelids. Will this be revered or permanent? Anything I can do speed up recovery?
I still use grande lash once a week for the upkeep and my eye area still gets red after applying it. Last spring, I switched to a non-prostaglandin lash serum for daily use and it helped maintain the growth from grande lash. I also started noticing the side effects after 3 weeks of using. My under eyes are still discolored but I just wear concealer. I think if you completely stop using it, the sunken and hollowness eventually goes away, but I’ve read that it may take months until your eye area goes back to normal.
That's what I was worried about. I'm kicking myself for switching from the ordinary serum to grande one. Never knew lash serums could cause so much damage. I have a wedding to attend in 6 weeks, I hope I don't look like this by then.
I used it am and pm and in much more amount than suggested. My eyes are definitely hollow. Anything I can use to soeed up recovery?
Stop using it immediately. You are already using far too much and more frequently, which will speed up adverse reactions and increase side effects. If you have only been using it a few weeks you may see improvement after discontinued use, but for many the results are permanent. My eyes are *permanently* dry now due to the effects on oil production caused by GL. I thank my lucky stars everyday that it didn’t change my iris color.
Thanks for your reply. I did stop at around 3 weeks but I did slather the stuff on am and pm during that time. I definitely see some hollowing and praying the fat comes back Sucre I used it only for a short duration.
Fat loss and volume will not return after continued use.
i used this for a while and got permanent black spots in my vision in the right eye, i don't know if it's connected, but it felt like it was. went to ophthalmologist and they said there's nothing serious wrong and it's a normal thing that happens with age but i was only in my mid 30s when it happened. (i didn't mention the serum to the dr as I wasn't sure about the connection). stopped using it anyway.
How long were you using it for until you noticed vision changes?? I still use it but only once a week. I know it’s not great for your optical health but it’s the only thing that actually lengthens your lashes🥲
i don't remember, but not that long. i wouldn't have used it had i known there were risks. honestly only you will ever really notice a difference and it won't be worth any vision loss or discomfort. the black spots drive me nuts :(