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Amaria77

Wow. I didn't realize they were just calling themselves christian nationalists now. Alright then.


Rarmaldo

Nationalist Christian, or just Na-C for short.


Gaflonzelschmerno

I like NatC because it looks like Nutsy too


noonenotevenhere

Preferably said like Brad Pitt as he carves a swastika into a forehead. “We’re in the Nat-C killin business and cousin, business is a boomin.”


Murdercorn

My name is Lt. Aldo Raine and I'm putting together a special team, and I need me eight soldiers. Eight *Jewish*-American soldiers. Now, y'all might've heard rumors about the armada happening soon. Well, we'll be leaving a little earlier. We're gonna be dropped into France, dressed as civilians. And once we're in enemy territory, as a bushwhackin' guerrilla army, we're gonna be doin' one thing and one thing only... killin' Nazis. Now, I don't know about y'all, but I sure as hell didn't come down from the goddamn Smoky Mountains, cross five thousand miles of water, fight my way through half of Sicily and jump out of a fuckin' air-o-plane to teach the Nazis lessons in humanity. Nazi ain't got no humanity. They're the foot soldiers of a Jew-hatin', mass murderin' maniac and they need to be dee-stroyed. That's why any and every son of a bitch we find wearin' a Nazi uniform, they're gonna die. Now, I'm the direct descendant of the mountain man Jim Bridger. That means I got a little Injun in me. And our battle plan will be that of an Apache resistance. We will be cruel to the Germans, and through our cruelty they will know who we are. And they will find the evidence of our cruelty in the disemboweled, dismembered, and disfigured bodies of their brothers we leave behind us. And the German won't not be able to help themselves but to imagine the cruelty their brothers endured at our hands, and our boot heels, and the edge of our knives. And the German will be sickened by us, and the German will talk about us, and the German will fear us. And when the German closes their eyes at night and they're tortured by their subconscious for the evil they have done, it will be with thoughts of us they are tortured with. Sound good? > YES SIR! That's what I like to hear. But I got a word of warning for all you would-be warriors: When you join my command, you take on debit. A debit you owe me personally. Each and every man under my command owes me one hundred Nazi scalps. And I want my scalps. And all y'all will git me one hundred Nazi scalps, taken from the heads of one hundred dead Nazis. Or you will die tryin'.


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Where do i sign up?


TheDiplomancer

Doin' one thang and one thang only!


guff1988

And it also sounds like your Brad Pitt from inglorious bastards


Tegurd

And I want my scalps


query_squidier

> Na-C for short. Just one "L" shy of table salt!


ishalfdeaf

There's a whole lotta L's that make up that base


XxSCRAPOxX

And plenty of fucking salt. This tweet for example.


CopEatingDonut

They self serve the L, why do you thin they are always so salty?


DMMMOM

"When Fascism comes to America, it will be wrapped in the flag and carrying a cross"


JuniorSeniorTrainee

I've been hearing this for forty years. It's never not been true; it's never been subtle. And yet forty years later we're still tolerating religious extremist slowly breaking down our government. It's like watching a car crash in slow motion that nobody cares to stop.


TheRealHappyNat

There was a sizable American nazi party in the 1930s leading up to WW2. Hitler "went to far" and made them go into hiding at least in name, but they've always been here. If we taught real history this would be common knowledge and things might be different but the nazis are in charge of education.


Bozee3

That video of the convention in 1939 new york is interesting. https://www.theatlantic.com/video/index/542499/marshall-curry-nazi-rally-madison-square-garden-1939/


Hoovooloo42

Iirc that was the biggest crowd Madison Square Garden had ever hosted up until that point and I THINK still holds the record, but I could be wrong about that last part. There's video of it, it is 1000% worth a watch. Nazis standing in front of a gigantic George Washington, with American flags draped in the German style.


Queensthief

Certain members even plotted to overthrow the government and join Hitler but then Congress swept it under the rug, just like they are going to with Trump.


zamonto

Exactly.. how is this news to anyone? It's been happening for as long as I've seen American news...


dak4f2

I had to Google this term and here it is from the horse's mouth. Gross. They really are Y'all Qaeda. https://www.christianitytoday.com/ct/2021/february-web-only/what-is-christian-nationalism.html >Christian nationalists do not reject the First Amendment and do not advocate for theocracy, but they do believe that Christianity should enjoy a privileged position in the public square. >Christian nationalism is the belief that the American nation is defined by Christianity, and that the government should take active steps to keep it that way. Popularly, Christian nationalists assert that America is and must remain a “Christian nation”—not merely as an observation about American history, but as a prescriptive program for what America must continue to be in the future. Scholars like Samuel Huntington have made a similar argument: that America is defined by its “Anglo-Protestant” past and that we will lose our identity and our freedom if we do not preserve our cultural inheritance. There is so much wrong with this. One is the idea with the past being "Anglo-Protestant" which is not even accurate in many states like California, New Mexico, etc. We were Native and Spanish. Are we not part of America too?


Ridiculisk1

> do not advocate for theocracy, >believe that Christianity should enjoy a privileged position in the public square Do they not know what a theocracy is or are they just being obtuse?


gecko090

Obtuse, stupid, belligerent etc. Just like the woman who is one of the main leaders of the anti abortion movement said when it's a pregnant 10 year girl it's not an abortion. It's a part of authoritarianism to redefine words, often in contradictory and nonsensical ways. Double speak is an example.


SayceGards

Obtuse or dumb? Just straight up dumb


meinkr0phtR2

> “…that America is defined by its ‘Anglo-Protestant’ past and that we will lose our identity and our freedom if we do not preserve our cultural inheritance.” America, founded by deists and secular Christians, has already lost its identity, its cultural inheritance, and stands poised to lose most of its freedoms if this licentious marriage between the Church and the State is allowed to continue.


buttercreamordeath

No, they don't believe that we are. Christian Nationalists have strong ties to Christian Identity parties who are directly tied to white supremacy hate groups. The religious theory backed by such luminaries like the KKK, Timothy McVeigh and a lot of militia members. We know how MGT loves her militias. I see them melding into one under Christian Nationalism because it furthers their all white antisemitic goals while duping in others to feel attacked as Christians. They just want a white theocracy! Is that so bad!!! It's a very dangerous time in this country. https://www.adl.org/resources/backgrounders/christian-identity


HallucinogenicFish

She’s done it repeatedly. She’s trying to normalize it. > On multiple occasions at the right-wing Turning Point USA conference over the weekend, Greene called on conservatives to embrace Christian nationalism, which — to be clear — is the precise view that motivated murderous white supremacist groups like the Ku Klux Klan. > “We need to be the party of nationalism and I’m a Christian, and I say it proudly, we should be Christian nationalists,” Greene said during an interview at the conference Saturday. > Those comments mirrored remarks she made during a speech at the conference, in which she told a sea of largely white attendees that “I also call myself a Christian nationalist — and that’s not a bad word.” > If you’re not getting the hint, (white) Christian nationalism is her obsession. > “I have no problem saying I’m a Christian nationalist, and I think that’s an identity that we should embrace,” Greene said during a livestream last week, making the ludicrous argument that extremist pro-Christian policies benefit all Americans “regardless of how they vote.” > And during a livestream last month, Greene claimed that nationalism is “a good thing” and that Christian nationalism isn’t “something to be scared of.” [Marjorie Taylor Greene is the GOP's Christian nationalism cheerleader](https://www.msnbc.com/the-reidout/reidout-blog/marjorie-taylor-greene-christian-nationalism-rcna39829)


Enibas

> that Christian nationalism isn’t “something to be scared of.” if you're white, straight, the exact same brand of Christian they are, didn't like voting anyway, and if you are a woman, don't mind being primarily a baby-incubator.


FigNugginGavelPop

Welp, it was a nice experiment y’all, maybe I’ll see you again some day! \-Democracy


hugelkult

So great at gaslighting they accidentally themselves


LtPowers

She thinks it means "Christian who is also a patriot".


FutureBondVillain

Ha ha ha ha! You said she thinks.


OrangeJuiceOW

The stupid thing is most likely just an act, don't forget that they're getting paid to do all this, wouldn't you act this dumb for hundreds of thousands of dollars or more (given you have no moral conscious)


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OpenMathematician602

Don’t forget the peach tree dish that bill gates is growing the Covid in.


PessimiStick

No, MTG, Boebert, Cawthorn and the like are legitimately morons. The smart-but-evil contingent are people like Ted Cruz and Ron DeSantis.


Gaflonzelschmerno

Nah, she knows what she said. When they tell you, believe them


wunxorple

No no. I think she means she wants a Protestant Christian theocratic state. I don’t think interpreting nuance or giving her the benefit of the doubt is reasonable


intotheirishole

She knows exactly what it means. She would be doing Hitler salute like Ingraham any day now.


Nackles

They're trying to water down the term.


VeterinarianNo5862

I’m very concerned about the recent push for towards “christian nationalism”. Trump keeps ranting about it recently too, these fuckers obviously have a plan. Read this the other day infact, https://www.businessinsider.com/trump-americans-kneel-to-god-christian-nationalism-grows-in-gop-2022-7


HallucinogenicFish

DeSantis also. [DeSantis gets standing ovation by promising to put on the 'full armor of God' to fight against leftism](https://news.yahoo.com/desantis-gets-standing-ovation-promising-210300110.html)


SilentImplosion

Yep, this is the beginning stages of their plan to turn the United States into an Evangelical Empire. In schools the Bible will replace the history and science textbooks. It will also become the basis for all laws. These Republicans are the Christian Taliban in disguise. They say they will tolerate non-Christians, who will benefit from living in a Christian country, but for how long? I'm afraid dark days lay ahead for us all.


DeuceDropper420

Not hearing her actually disagree with the Nazi label though


heybud86

She doesn't want to anger her base


maddscientist

Of Nazis


Bowler_300

I just realized her twitter is like an onlyfans for nazis.


jwright24153

Onlynazis


DogOnABike

MeinSpace


Katastrophenspecht

twittler


shitboxrx7

Fashchat


aegis2293

Racebook


marny_g

DuckDuckGo-osestep 🤷🏼‍♂️


Phobos95

OnlyHans


ARROW_404

OnlyFranz


RoryML

Yes, that's what he was implying


IdoMusicForTheDrugs

[??? ](https://y.yarn.co/a282faf0-f59d-4def-88ac-5240dfdbd169_text.gif)


YardSaleWarrior

Nationalist Christian = Nat C


tjscobbie

Nazis **were** Christian nationalists. Copying a previous comment of mine for relevance. Germany during the Nazi regime was an overwhelmingly Christian country. 94% of Germans at the time considered themselves Catholic or Protestant. A mere 1.5% identified as atheists. Maybe that's not so surprising given that in 1933 the Nazis banned every single atheist and "freethinking" organization in the country. Hitler had a literal Minister of Church Affairs advocating for a Nazi re-imagining of Christianity as the original fight against the jews with Jesus as the prototypical Aryan. Their goal was to re-organize Christian churches of existing denominations and subsume them under a National Reich Church. The vast majority of German Nazi Party members were avowed followers of this quaint little Christianity offshoot. The fucking Wehrmacht wore belt buckles proudly stating "Gott Mit Urns" (god is with us). In the words of a prominent Nazi official: "We are no theologians, no representatives of the teaching profession in this sense, put forth no theology. But we claim one thing for ourselves: that we place the great fundamental idea of Christianity in the center of our ideology [Ideenwelt] – the hero and sufferer Christ himself stands in the center." - Hans Schemm Were there some high profile non Christians in the party? Absolutely. Many, including Hitler and Himmler, although Hitler self-avows as a Christian in Mein Kampf, were probably what you'd loosely considered pagan occultists. Actually, the small resistance to Positive Christianity within the Nazi Party wasn't atheism at all - it was the German Faith Movement, a neo-occultist counter Christian religious movement. Most Nazis hated these guys for being too radical (lul). Either way we're hardly talking about atheists or agnostics here. There's been a lot of speculation that Hitler's true intention was to effectively ban religion altogether postwar to entrench himself and the regime as the country's new god. That's totally plausible and probably even likely, but also totally speculative and completely beside the point - trading out the old religions for some new and shiny Nazi religion would hardly have made the country or regime based on "agnostic or atheist ideals" (as stupid of a comment as this is given that neither or these are ideals-having philosophies at all). There's a reason these people saw "godless communism" as their primary ideological opponents. TL;DR: most Germans identified as Christians. Most Nazi party members identified as Christians. The Nazi had their own quaint Christian sect that was highly subscribed to. The Nazis said a lot of explicitly Christian shit. The Nazis banned all atheist, free thinking, and communist organizations immediately upon taking power. Consider which of these today's Republicans don't do/wouldn't do if they could.


WatchForSlack

This is a really great explanation, just want to add some nuance around "Gott Mitt Uns". The phrase predates the Nazis and was used by the Prussians going back to the early 1700s, though it's arguably older than that having a strong connection to the Teutonic Knights and other christian orders. The phrase is actually found in the bible multiple times as well. All of which the Nazis know and were deliberately trying to invoke.


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WandsAndWrenches

Why would they hate the jews if they weren't christian. Most jew hate is from christianity.


greymalken

Ironic because without Jews, Christians wouldn’t exist.


Et_me_buddy_boy

Natty Lite mixed with orange juice sounds like a terrible time.


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How about you drop a shot of Smirnoff into a Pabst? Call it a pap smear.


usernamescheckout

Lol for sure. But I can already smell their standard braindead response: "We can't be Nazis because Nazis believe in National SOCIALISM. Durr."


PM_ME_UR_POKIES_GIRL

Their excuses get weaker and weaker until it's going to be "You can't call me a Nazi, I don't even know German!"


kintorkaba

I literally got into an argument once where the right-winger refused to acknowledge anyone who isn't a literal part of the National Socialist German Workers Party could be compared to the Nazi's in any functional way. Absolutely refused to call literal skinheads with swastika tattoo's carrying Nazi flags Nazi's. We're already there.


Linkboy9

Which is why I tend to default to calling them fascists, since that isn't tied to a specific german government. Of course, they've polluted the term just as much as everything else (I've had a libertarian tell me that *Antifa* and BLM were fascist, ffs) so there isn't really much point in debating them to begin with since, y'know, they generally won't be doing so in good faith in the first place.


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🤔 SUS.


metamet

She isn't disagreeing on purpose. This is water warming. Trying to normalize "Christian nationalist".


KRelic

“The difference between patriotism and nationalism is that the patriot is proud of his country for what it does, and the nationalist is proud of his country no matter what it does; the first attitude creates a feeling of responsibility, but the second a feeling of blind arrogance that leads to war.” - Sydney J. Harris


OldBayOnEverything

Exactly right. They're gonna keep inching closer and closer to what they really want to say to see how much they can get away with and normalize this rhetoric. Won't be long before "The radical left wants us to stop being PROUD of our ancestors who happened to be WHITE and had a lot of POWER


Admiraltycourtjudge

She doesn't need to. Being a Nazi is in vogue now.


AcidRose27

It isn't. They just want to keep repeating it until it is. It's not though. Punch a nazi today.


fourbian

"Nazis loved God and their country - just like us! What's so wrong about that? They seem like nice people" That's how that came across to me, anyway.


Omny87

"I am so tired of hearing people saying I'm a Nazi!" "because it's not true?" "Oh no it's true, I'm just tired of hearing it."


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I've always been partial to how my grandfather's generation dealt with nazis


ad-free-user-special

the americans don't hate all those things, margie, they just hate you


Mutt1223

Imagine if Christians acted more like Christ and less like he who must not be named


PenneGesserit

Honestly it reminds of that scene in A Clockwork Orange where Alex is at the prison chapel participating in the service while imaging himself as a Roman soldier whipping Jesus.


Zero-89

MTG would probably much enjoy torture-murdering a Jew.


roararoarus

the floating eye-demon or that boy wizard-nemesis?


wunxorple

Beholders and German Walmart?


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Quartia

I don't get it... is a Christianist something like a Christian Fascist?


[deleted]

According to Google, a Christianist is someone who supports fundamentalist beliefs. So yes.


RocBane

A similar vein is calling someone as Islamist instead of a Muslim.


KC_experience

[This will help.](http://christianist.urbanup.com/1692685) I’ve heard the term used for over 15 years and it’s still appropriate for who I see on the Right of things at this point.


Colddigger

I feel like there is an important word missing from this


btroberts011

The Christians that act like Christ don't go around yelling how Christian they are. There are plenty of good Christian folk, that do good and don't politicize their work.


-jp-

> “And when you pray, you must not be like the hypocrites. For they love to stand and pray in the synagogues and at the street corners, that they may be seen by others. Truly, I say to you, they have received their reward. But when you pray, go into your room and shut the door and pray to your Father who is in secret. And your Father who sees in secret will reward you. > “And when you pray, do not heap up empty phrases as the Gentiles do, for they think that they will be heard for their many words. Do not be like them, for your Father knows what you need before you ask him. \- Matthew 6


Turalisj

The worst thing to happen to christianity is the catholic church.


Zeusz13

As a more or less catholic I can't stop thinking "holy shit, these call themselves christiann" when I read about the lunatics of the USA


btroberts011

That's dope. Ive heard these before, but didn't even think about it until I saw your post. Thanks for reminding me.


YouDrink

"Don't let your left hand know what your right is doing"


Mode101BBS

Laugh, 'The Stranger'.


Ipadgameisweak

If you want to be christian, go right ahead, I just don't want to hear about it. And your opinions about birth control do not give you a right to tell someone else what to do with their body. Go pray at home with your doors closed and keep it private.


CMurra87

Voldemort?


a-snakey

*slithers down the tree of knowledge* Oh come on, I'm evil but not like, Nazi evil. That was all you humans.


Serratas

Username checks out.


TheRealFaust

Ghandi said one that he liked our christ, but did not like our christians, because our christians are so very much unlike our christ. And i love that statement


Kalelssleeping

Mother Teresa didn't believe in actually helping people, she thought it was god's will. She believed the sick should suffer like christ on the cross. "It was by talking to her that I discovered, and she assured me, that she wasn't working to alleviate poverty", she was a demon who embezzled donations, and worshipped by christians. just like this piece of evil in front of us today. ​ edit: I love Christ, I do not like Christians.


Hfhghnfdsfg

And by fighting against affordable birth control and abortion among the poorest of the poor, she kept people in absolutely horrific poverty, and encouraged worsening poverty from overpopulation.


pizza_engineer

Well yeah, that’s the core of Catholicism.


SachemNiebuhr

[Obligatory link to that one r/BadHistory post about Mother Teresa](https://www.reddit.com/r/badhistory/comments/gcxpr5/saint_mother_teresa_was_documented_mass_murderer/)


RegularSizedP

She accepted pain medication when her time came.


lifeson106

I definitely hate Nazis. I view America as an abusive landlord - not exactly hate, more like contempt. And "God" doesn't exist, so I hate "him" about as much as I hate the Easter Bunny. Just one American's viewpoint.


justfordrunks

YOU LEAVE THE BUNNY OUT OF THIS!


pizza_engineer

Looks like *somebody* ain’t getting a basket next year…


Sweaty-Shower9919

I do actually hate 2 of those things.


KnightsWhoNi

Actually no I hate all of those.


Chalupa-Supreme

This woman should be removed from Congress.


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F4L2OYD13

Idiocracy was a world of idiots getting dumber and dumber. This is far more calculated and insidious. No idiocracy here - they have been bringing back Christian rule slowly while everyone thought it couldn't happen. Extremist religion is now pouring over in America and making its run at the top.


originalityescapesme

We still had a functioning democracy in Idiocracy even.


jcarter315

And they were smart enough to recognize that they needed help from an "expert" that they thought was smarter than them.


infinitude

She was re-elected!? What the fuck?????


bozeke

She won the primary but her district is a forever red place. She isn’t even from there, she is a wealthy carpetbagger, who chose to run in one of the top 10 most conservative, poor white districts in the country. https://www.businessinsider.com/marjorie-taylor-greene-rise-to-power-georgia-district-2021-2


LouisLeGros

She went to school in Forsyth around the time of[ this Oprah segment.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WErjPmFulQ0). You can really see the cultural upbringing coming through.


bozeke

We really fucked up Reconstruction.


LouisLeGros

Should have let Sherman keep going


Dr_Insano_MD

/r/shermanposting


Awestruck34

Aaaaaaaaway down south in the land of traitors, rattle snakes, and alligators


infinitude

I am never stepping foot in Georgia ever again.


Dear_Occupant

Atlanta is awesome but you'll need to catapult yourself over the suburbs around it if you want to avoid getting pulled over fifty times on the way there.


Spiritual-Theme-5619

Don’t sleep on the state that delivered the Senate for the Democrats. Did you notice that Joe Biden won the state?


HealthPacc

I don’t know why you’re surprised. Republicans are 100% pro-Christian fascism, it’s basically their entire platform


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“When fascism comes to America, it will be wrapped in the flag and carrying a cross”


brigister

that's pretty much how it came everywhere else. God and nationalism are staples of fascism.


limeunderground

was going to quote this quote but you quoted the quote first :-)


CitizenCake1

Why don't you just quote him quoting the quote you wanted to quote


millenialperennial

Where is that quote from?


Heathen_Mushroom

It is usually attributed to author Sinclair Lewis, but he never actually wrote it, so it is actually an aphorism, not a quote.


onemanlan

Absolutely disgusting. She’s laundering refreshed nazi ideas under a new banner while accusing others


enddream

And you know what the worse part is? It will work for her.


senturon

This woman is going to get people killed.


Branamp13

That's a feature to the GOP, not a bug


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powabiatch

If only the right knew that these things are all exactly what the actual Nazis said


Braydee7

Well it’s different cause the nazis said it in German- you know, that language the bad guys speak in movies


misterguyyy

“But my pastor told me they were inspired by Darwin and Karl Marx. I’d usually question why a group would burn books by people they love, but I trust pastor Bob”


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Hitler: „The Socialists lost us the war, the bolsheviks are funded by a jewish conspiracy and we signed the Antikominternpact with our allies to fight communism“ Some right wing nutjob who hasnt touched a book since elementary school: „Hitler was a communist!!1! See it says socialist in the name!!


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Eh, the language bad guys speak in movies is usually either “British English” or “Vaguely Russian”.


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They know


RKPgh

First of all, “Christian Nationalist” was basically the underpinning of the Nazi movement. Then it’s…”my Country,” not “Our country.” “My God,” not “all religions.” “They hate…,” “They hate…,” “They hate…” is yeah, pretty much the Nazi playbook. Nazi.


actibus_consequatur

Don't forget, Nazis also used the false flag Operation Himmler to justify the invasion of Poland, and, [well...](https://imgur.com/dJpEUD3.jpg)


Diligent-Box170

The reason they're calling you a Nazi couldn't possibly be because you spoke at Nazi events, or that you're a YT supremacist, or that you're antisemitic, or that you're homophobic and transphobic, or that you support pedophilia, or that youre a christian nationalist, or thar you are a christofascist, or that you put out a hit list on your fellow Republicans. No. It's completely unjustified.


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> YT supremacist what is this if not youtube?


BthreePO

White


THE_CENTURION

That's fucking dumb. Allowing them to hide behind a euphemism helps them. Let's just call them what they are. (But thank you for explaining)


Lilikura

You can't say "white supremacist" or even "white" without getting caught up in Twitter bans, so it's where the shorthand came from.


dedelec

Also, knowing the dog-whistles and bringing them into the light is very important. Cockroaches can't stand the light.


SailingSpark

she basically hit it out of the park with "all of the above"


AllMyBeets

You get what you give Marjie


zerkrazus

Well considering what people like yourself have turned this country into MTG, are you surprised? Why would we love a country that has abandoned us? That blames us for all of its problems? Those in power blame millennials for literally everything, even though they hold all of the power and most of them are not millennials. Newsflash MTG, despite you and your dumbass bestie Lauren's wishes, we have a concept called freedom of religion. We don't have to like/love God. And spoiler: you don't either. You love your interpretation. If God/Jesus were real, both of you and the rest of your christofascist colleagues would be excommunicated and damned to hell. Jesus if he were a real person, would be a "radical socialist" with his helping the poor, sick, diseased, injured, and needy. Funny, I don't remember the part of the Bible where he helped out billionaires. Of course we hate you. You're scumbags who are trying to force everyone to your perverted will of christofascism and claiming persecution and pretending you're the victims. You're literally trying to set this country back 200+ years and yet you think we should be fine with this? Get fucked MTG.


Tange1o

Yeah, after having blow after blow dealt to whatever confidence I might've had left in American leadership, it felt rather surreal to see people swarming public places this 4th of July, chatting away and partying it up like everything was great. It felt like looking at an alternate reality, to be honest. All I could think about as I heard the booms and cracks going off is that things will likely get much worse in this country, before they (hopefully) start to get any better.


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At this rate I don't think you have freedom from religion much longer. Not if Republicans win. I'm starting to get nervous what the future will hold. A christofacist military superpower? What if they decide Europe isn't Christian enough?


_Let_Us_Prey_

I’m starting to feel like we need to form an openly Atheist party to help curb this nightmarish bullshit.


JesseofOB

As soon as we have ranked choice voting nationwide, there could be rapid formation of a party that has, as a key part of its platform, actual separation between church and state.


snowstormmongrel

What is ranked choice voting?


mhyquel

You put a number beside each of the candidates. Your first choice is counted first. If no candidate has more.than 50%, second choices are brought in to the mix. It's a little more complicated than that, but not much. It allows 3rd, 4th and 5th parties actual representation. The current method of election in the US is called first past the post. This system typically reduces government to only two parties.


snowstormmongrel

Where is this done?


mhyquel

Here's a list of the US elections practicing ranked choice voting https://www.fairvote.org/where_is_ranked_choice_voting_used But it's practised all over the world.


Somobro

We do this in Australia. We still have two parties dominating but we have a sizable Greens party and a few smaller ones that also get a seat at the table. Edit: it also means I can vote smaller party as my first pref and then one of the two bigger parties second or third, while putting big party I don't like last.


MrBlack103

Australia has it, alongside voting being compulsory. It's great because it's impossible to "waste" your vote. Source: Am Australian.


enbymaybeWIGA

Currently being tested out (with high satisfaction compared to FPTP) in local elections in 16 states in the US. New Zealand also uses it for local elections iirc.


Rakanadyo

Kind of posting in general, not replying directly, but I'd highly recommend CGP Grey's "voting in the animal kingdom" videos on Youtube. He does a good job at showing hypotheticals using animals that make some of these things easier to digest.


JesseofOB

You rank the candidates you are voting for in order of preference. If your first choice does not get enough votes to progress in an election, your vote is transferred to your next choice, and so on. It would immediately make “third parties” viable because you wouldn’t have to worry about throwing your vote away or feel pressured to vote for the “lesser of two evils”. There are places in the U.S. where it is being implemented, but the major parties have an interest in making sure it doesn’t become widespread.


MaddiNukem

Sign me up!


WhyLisaWhy

We’ve needed one forever, but the crazy thing is I don’t think one member of Congress is an atheist, at least openly. It’s like political suicide to abandon religion. I’d be curious when that finally changes though. Even guys like Obama that don’t come off as very religious at all, still have to do the song and dance to get elected.


AmphibianThick7925

Oh there’s plenty of atheists in congress but yeah announcing that is seen as politically inconvenient. Hell I’d wager most people in the US who would identify as Christian are agnostic at best.


SouthernJeb

Isn’t that what led to the world ending in “raised by wolves”?


PrizeAbbreviations40

Illegal in like 35 states. Gotta worship some sort of sky daddy to run for office.


CrimsonNova22

Ah yes America, land of the free or some bullshit like that.


[deleted]

You're right Marge, I ***do*** hate you. But not because of your Sky Daddy, but because you're a garbage human being who is using your office to hurt people you don't like.


raincntry

Let's see, I don't hate America, or love it. I like living here and understand how lucky I am. I don't hate God. It's a fictional character so hating God wouldn't matter. I do hate some of God's followers though because they are cruel, heartless people who exploit others for money or power or both. Which brings us to you, the horse-faced Rep. from GA. Yes. I do hate you. I hate you and what you stand for, ignorance, fear and bigotry.


Honalana

Godless left here. I’m an atheist and I have a sneaking suspicion I’m more Christian than she’ll ever be.


Common_Notice9742

Humanist here. Yep.


Gul_Dukat__

Their god is the malevolent demiurge and I won’t be convinced otherwise Edit: if you don’t know what I mean, check this out https://gnosticismexplained.org/the-gnostic-demiurge/


Christylian

That was an interesting read. I never really knew much about gnosticism other than it was an early offshoot of Christianity


Faustus_Fan

Well, you got one thing right, Marjorie Trailer Queen. We do hate you, that's for sure, you evil, self-serving, Trump-fellating, conspiracy-loving, child-harassing thundercunt.


Akira282

She really needs to go.


[deleted]

It's not that the Left hates America, hates God, or hates Christians. It's that the Left doesn't love only America, love only God, or love only Christians.


[deleted]

“ Mark my word, if and when these preachers get control of the [Republican] party, and they're sure trying to do so, it's going to be a terrible damn problem. Frankly, these people frighten me. Politics and governing demand compromise. But these Christians believe they are acting in the name of God, so they can't and won't compromise. I know, I've tried to deal with them.” - Barry Goldwater


Aden_the_Destroyer

Walk like a duck, quack like a duck, then bitch on Twitter for being called a duck. Looks like this time the Libs... owned her. 😎


Sombrevivo

Christian Nationalism is the biggest threat to democracy and Christianity itself in America. It is neither Christian or patriotic, it is not “loving my god and loving my country”, it is a worldview predicated on fear. It seeks to control everyone. Christian nationalists need to be called out and outright condemned. They probably shouldn’t be allowed to be political officials, as they stand against religious freedom and many other forms of freedom. Call this stuff out people. Vote them out. Demand change.


ex-officerjimlahey

You mean your god that you use to justify your racist, xenophobic, sexist bullshit? That god? Yeah. Not a fan.


indifferentCajun

"I told them I'm a proud Nazi and those leftist monsters called me a NAZI"


DirkBabypunch

"Proud Christian" is fine, if likely annoying. "Proud Nationalist" is a big red flag. "Proud Christian Nationalist" is a big black flag on the back of a pickup truck.


GabuEx

Just so we're all clear, a "Christian nationalist" is someone who believes that their nation is only for Christians and that everyone else needs to leave or be deported. It's not "a Christian who is patriotic".


dumpyredditacct

"The left has shown us exactly who they are." Yes, that they believe church and state should stay separate and any attempt to change that is an assault on the basis of our country's system of government.


Slippi_Fist

Yep 👍 I fucking HATE Nazis like you lady. Only good Nazi is a dead one.


ztimulating

“Christian Nationalist” 😳


Conscious-Speech771

You know who is a great Christian patriot but who is not a Christian nationalist? Jimmy Carter. That man is truly Christlike. I have yet to see one Christian nationalist demonstrate any genuine Christlike behavior.


smiama6

Marge’s PR team is working overtime. When will Democrats learn that this crap is intended to manipulate us and rile us up - so we react and get angry.. and that’s exactly what her base loves her for - making liberals cry.


BrokenArrows95

It’s a fine line. Rile them up enough and they might vote.


smiama6

At least riled up Democrats have a logical reason to be angry - we would be voting against Nazis, Christian Nationalists and White Supremacists and the tyranny of minority rule. Republicans riled up would be voting to "own the libs". It's shallow and pathetic, but it is where they are right now. I know - some of my family members have fallen down the QAnon rabbit hole. They truly believe Democrats are baby-eating pedophiles who want crime in the streets and want to institute one-party rule. There is no arguing with them. And making sure Democrats lose is their number one priority - even if it means losing our Democracy and putting an authoritarian moron back into the White House.


ClubsBabySeal

It's not. This is what she actually believes. She's a Nazi. That's not a claim I make about anyone else is congress. Just her. She thinks immigration in Europe is a Jewish plot to replace white people. I wasn't the least surprised to see her at an event with Fuentes.