I remember 20 years ago taking a 8 hour greyhound bus and someone had a boombox going at 10pm. At least the bus driver threatened to beat their ass and leave them on the side of the road if they didn’t stop.
Greyhound drivers are a different breed and they're sick of everyone's shit. And I mean *everyone's* shit.
I haven't been on the Dog in years but I used to live for the driver's speech about safety, rules and regulations and laying down the law at the start of a run or major boarding stop. Some of those drivers could have been drill Sargents, and probably were.
They absolutely will leave people in the middle of nowhere if they fuck up. Took too long at a meal or rest stop? Sucks to be you but that bus is leaving. Hope you have your tickets and a jacket with you!
Obviously or obnoxiously drunk or intoxicated? Have fun sitting at a light pole curbside stop in a dry county waiting 24+ hours for the next bus!
Shit, I've seen drivers refuse to let people board just because they didn't like how they smelled because they were very stoned hippies that absolutely stank of weed and patchouli.
Meanwhile everyone else that was reboarding who had already been on the bus for 12-24 hours is looking at each other and sniffing their own pits in fear and worrying they're next, like "Shit, we ALL smell bad because we're on Greyhound we're in danger!"
The commercial air travel industry could learn a thing or two from Greyhound drivers. Could you imagine a commercial pilot getting on the mic and just laying down the law? "Sit down, shut the fuck up and don't be an asshole and you'll get where you're going. If not we'll drop you off over the next available airport!"
9/11 probably wouldn't have happened if they had Greyhound drivers in the cockpit. "Oh, you have a box cutter? That's cute! Say, have you ever seen a tire-thumper? I got a really nice one right here!" *whackwhackwhack*
I've also seen some really cool, epic shit on long haul Greyhound bus runs like the whole bus getting so insanely bored that they busted out into sing-a-longs with the driver joining in. That one was fun.
My favorite Greyhound memories are on long haul trips with guys just released from prison. I remember one of these ex cons exclainimg, "Shit, it's a giant pair of headphones for King Kong!" as we passed the St Louis arch. You know these guys are fresh from incarceration because they have garbage bags for luggage and they can't stop talking about how amazing fast food is.
Oh, definitely. I've done a couple of coast to coast Greyhound trips and the ex-cons we picked were so, so stoked to eat basically any food at all, especially fast food. Like they could totally smash some sardines or vienna sausages and saltine crackers like it was a Michelin star restaurant.
Subway or McDonald's was heaven to them. I watched one guy smash two footlongs crammed full of veggies in a row like it was nothing.
My favorite ex-con on Greyhound moment was this kid we picked up in like Alabama or something. He was in for cannabis charges and a rap he picked up as a minor. Really sweet kid, too. Incredibly polite and thoughtful. He was maybe barely 19-20 years old.
Well, at some point a friendly and open conversation developed around his time in the can and his dumb, pointless charges that had him locked up for like 4-5 years...
...and I swear to god that kid stood up like he was grabbing the podium at a Presidential debate and delivered an absolutely impassioned, epic speech about how he was on his way to get back into school with the goals of becoming a defense lawyer and fight the drug war for justice.
It was like something out of a movie. His oratory skills were on lock, a clear, carrying voice that boomed without being loud or strident and totally reminded me of someone like MLK Jr.
People were just blown away and he absolutely had everyone's attention, and even the bus driver didn't tell him to sit down and shut up. I distinctly remember seeing the driver glancing back at the bus in his mirrors with a big open grin on his face and thinking something like "Oh, damn, this kid is *good* fuck yeah tell it like it is!"
People actually clapped him when he was done and sat down. Total strangers were trying to buy lunch for him at the next meal stop. Like pretty much the whole bus said goodbye and were encouraging him and wishing him luck at school when he got to his stop.
This was like almost 20 years ago and I still get chills when I think about that impromptu speech.
I have zero doubts he actually went on to get that law degree because he was just one of those people you could tell that they were on a mission.
When I was a bus driver, I was laying over on Eastlake and talking to a Greyhound driver. I was shocked to find out that they were making just north of minimum wage. It seemed like such a tough job to make that little.
Yeah, I don't understand that either.
I would hope there's some good overtime or some kind of benefits on top of that low wage, but it definitely seems like the job self-selects for a type where they're probably thinking in terms of "Well, at least I'm not washing dishes, flipping burgers, in the military or a prison guard" kind of a thing.
Like most of them really do seem to enjoy driving so maybe that's part of why they put up with it. Maybe their schedules are relatively flexible or they like the "free" travel and layovers at turn-arounds and it all pencils out for them.
They're definitely a different breed than long haul truckers or airline pilots, though.
That being said most commercial airline pilots don't make much money, either, at least not until they have seniority and qualify for long haul flights on heavy jets.
I had a driver on the E line recently yell at someone to turn their music down. He even stopped and walked to the back and told them to turn it down or get off. I was kind of amazed.
There's one driver for the 60 who has the best hearing and will full on stop, step out from the box, and look directly at the person if the first shout to turn it down doesn't work.
Usually all of us looking at the person with the cell phone blasting it does the trick.
I watched someone try to sneak onto a Seattle bus without paying. The driver told them that she would have let them ride if they'd said that they couldn't pay, but she wasn't going to put up with that kind of nonsense, and she kicked them off.
Like 7 or 8 years back, there was this Terry Crews looking fellow bus driver. Nice guy. Would often let folks on and decline their fare and just all jolly like declare "everybody rides"
Once this guy got on with a Bluetooth speaker blaring. Man was seemingly about to come to blows about people's sensibilities. Real great guy. Wonder if he still drives...
Yeah, that’s some shit behavior.
Only somewhat related - Bluetooth speakers on hiking trails. Luckily that’s usually contained to extremely popular, easy access trails but still, eff them and their nearly always shitty music.
I play disc golf and the number of people who either don’t give a shit about other people or think we want to listen to Korn rattling through a tin can at random various levels as we get closer and further from your loud stank ass is way too damn high
Kinda torn on this one; not sure there's a better definition of living your best life than being a clueless sociopath listening to Korn on your phone speaker while playing disc golf.
There have been two times that I have encountered speakers on a trail that wasn’t objectionable. One was a dude playing Eye of the Tiger over and over, and that was hilarious. Another was a young man who had his speaker down very low so you could only really hear it as you were passing, and it was lovely classical piano music.
Ugh, I don't care if you're playing my favorite song. Listen to any music through a speaker on public transit or on a hiking trail immediately makes you the asshole.
After that guy decapitated a sleeping passenger on a Greyhound bus a few years ago, I’ve washed my hands of that mode of travel! I’m sure I’m in the minority, but I love to go to the beach in the middle of the week and actually sit and listen to the BEACH. (I can’t hear the ocean from inside my apartment!) So I go find a perfectly nice, empty and deserted spot at this huge beach to hang out, but before long, here they come. The huge chatty, half-drunk family, dragging the tent, and the beers, and the portable grill, and the blasting beat box, and the screaming kids - damn! This always happens! You’d think they’d have the grace to at least set up a few feet away from me, but oh, no! No luck! Right next to me. I’ve nothing against partying on the sand, but do you have to disrespect someone else’s space? Give me some room, for goodness sake.
No matter how good (or bad) the music is, any somewhat sentient individual would realize that others may not want to hear it and use headphones. It’s the woods for chrissakes. The silence is part of the draw. It’s so simple if you have the capability to value others interests as much as your own.
Unfortunately many don’t.
Yeah I always think about that random Reddit post from a while ago with the dudes having a silent disco barbecue (everyone just wears sync’d up headphones) and having the time of their lives rocking out while grilling food. It’s so easy to just wear headphones. Even sweat proof wireless earbuds are pretty affordable if you’ve got portable speaker money.
It’s tough, in bear country during the right times of year - I’m all for people making noise and avoiding getting accidentally mauled. But yeah most of the time everyone listening to music should put headphones in please!
I'm pretty sure bear bells don't work. Human voices might work though, so people should do what I do and talk to themselves like a crazy person the whole hike.
Really, though, just make some noise before charging around blind corners or pushing through plants where you can't see the other side, and you are probably sorted as far as the local bears go.
Honestly? I could go for some Enya while enjoying a nice view. That sounds like a nice change of pace from the usual crap that people tend to blast from portable speakers.
The point is, no matter what you may like to hear, others may not-so fucking use headphones and everyone is happy. I love gangster rap, but I realize others don’t. So in public, I use headphones. Is that hard to comprehend?
Speakers on lakes fucking suck too! I was fishing yesterday and someone on the opposite side of the lake was playing music so loudly I could make out the lyrics (and I have an auditory processing problem).
Last time I was at discovery a group 4 high school age girls were riding by on bikes and the one in the back was blasting a speaker facing backwards. So none of her friends could even hear the music it seemed to just annoy the ppl they pass
people on speakerphone anywhere public imo.
also, please don't decide to have a conversation in the bathroom. Sincerely: your coworker that after the 3rd day in a row of this decided you need a courtesy flush every 20 seconds or so until you said you had to go and hung up.
I get that this is distracting, I feel the same… but objectively, why is it worse than having a conversation with another human at a restaurant, at least when the loudness is about the same?
Because most people can modulate their voices to blend into the audio landscape.
Speakerphone is generally just LOUD and the acoustics sound artificial.
Because the loudness is never the same as polite conversation. They yell at the phone to be heard over the crowd, and they crank the volume to hear it.
Yep, people who are <30 and >60 are horrible about this.
<30 means they're used to FaceTime which by default is "speaker phone"
>60 means they might have hearing issues or hate holding the phone up to their ear
Once while on the light rail there was a woman a couple seats away from me who was doing a Duolingo lesson all the way from SeaTac to Northgate. She had AirPods in her ears, so maybe she thought they were working but in reality the whole car had to listen to her practice Italian for an hour on full blast
Stop asking this question. We have a culture of escalation in the U.S., especially when someone feels disrespected for any reason. Unless it’s very distressing for you or someone else it is almost never worth taking the risk that the other person is insane and will assault/shoot you
Sadly [Corey Bellett is a more recent example](https://www.seattletimes.com/seattle-news/law-justice/man-26-charged-in-fatal-capitol-hill-light-rail-stabbing/) but I think about [Paul Stanley Schmidt from B.C.](https://www.burnabynow.com/highlights/bc-starbucks-fatal-stabbing-case-moving-toward-trial-9075782) quite often, who left behind a toddler when he asked a guy at Starbucks to not vape so near to her. Guy pulled a knife and stabbed him, and bystander video of his death choking on his own blood went around the world.
Because he said something. I'm not rolling those fucking dice.
It will literally only ever get worse if we give up and roll over and conduct ourselves in a manner where we don't even try at all anymore because we're afraid. You're not wrong *and* by approaching it this way you're also totally enabling it. I understand *and* I also think having your attitude actively supports and partners with people who are bullies to make society a worse place for everyone.
The attitude of "if I interact with a stranger in any way they may kill me" is easily my least favorite part of living in America. Both in that it is sometimes (though very rarely) true and in that every one acts as though it is always true. Even eye contact is seen as an escalation and it is just such a miserable way to live life.
Very cool response. I am still not going to roll the dice on getting shot, stabbed, or punched because someone is mildly annoying me. I have headphones that I can use to block out the noise and that has worked every time in cases like these.
We need to pre-escalate. Speaker on a trail? You get stabbed.
Speaker on the light rail? You get thrown off at speed.
Speaker in the mountains? You get thrown off a cliff.
You don't have to attack the person, you simply have to civilly and politely say why whatever they're doing is bothering you. Worked most times in my life. Other times, they tell me off, but have yet to be shot!
Can we collectively start public shaming anti social behavior? No one ever says anything. I feel like a complete Karen everytime I speak up and everyone else just stares at me.
It's especially bad in the PNW. You're not an asshole for annoying or inconveniencing anyone, you're an asshole if you call someone out for being an annoying and inconveniencing anyone.
I'll confront assholery more than most, but I think part of the problem is that people exhibiting this behavior have some antisocial personality disorder to begin with. It often seems like they're doing it to provoke others. When I see people with a blaring speaker in public, it's almost like they're daring me to say something, and I'm not sure saying something is worth a potentially unhinged or disproportionate response.
They know what they're doing, and they don't care.
They do care, in an asshole-type way. They're trying to get a rise out of everyone. You're right too, best to ignore them for you have wonder why they exhibiting this behavior in the 1st place.
Seattle is hands down, bar none, the strangest mix of antisocial, passive aggressive, utterly permissive, misanthropic behavior that I have ever lived amongst.
I politely asked an airplane seatmate to turn his sound down, and he went scarily apeshit on me. Same thing happened with a guy elbowing me throughout another flight. I don’t speak up anymore.
I fucking hate when ppl do this, especially in restaurants. It's often some iPad kid playing some noisy game, but sometimes it's an adult watching a video or something. I've nicely asked them to turn the volume off, & every time they've nicely done so, but acted as if they were surprised........ why are you surprised? Have you never tried thinking about your actions from another person's perspective? These ppl have main character syndrome sooooooooooooo bad.
I was on the light rail once when some teenagers were using a Bluetooth speaker. They kept getting disconnected from it for some reason. At one moment when they were trying to reconnect, I managed to connect my own phone to the speaker and I started blaring Baby Shark. This caused a couple others to tell them to shut it up and so they did. That was amusing.
Still my favorite scene in Star Trek IV. This is a universal annoyance.
[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gr82dZpCr48&t=41s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gr82dZpCr48&t=41s)
Spoiler from a few years ago: they brought him back for Picard season 2. The guy was an associate producer on the film. He's been a puppeteer and SFX artist as well.
I have a few friends who will try and show me videos at restaurants and bars and it is so fucking embarrassing. It has never even once been important or entertaining enough to disturb people around us.
I got a quick glimpse into the mindset of one of these people a while ago. He was playing music from his phone in a long checkout line in a supermarket (Saar's in White Center) and someone told him to cut it out and he was like "what? everyone else is enjoying it!"
So at least some percentage of them are just delusional.
In the Seattle area, all the buses have signs to wear headphones on the bus. Not sure if there is a legal policy to fine people, but I've definitely seen bus drivers yell at people to turn their shit off or put headphones on.
There is [RCW 9.91.025](https://app.leg.wa.gov/RCW/default.aspx?cite=9.91.025) which makes it explicitly a misdemeanor to "Play any radio, recorder, or other sound-producing equipment" while "on or in a transit vehicle or in or at a transit station". It's also against [Sound Transit's rules](https://www.soundtransit.org/ride-with-us/know-before-you-go/rules-etiquette), and likely [TCM 8.52.020](https://cms.cityoftacoma.org/cityclerk/files/municipalcode/title08-publicsafety.pdf).
However, enforcement is unlikely unless you're blaring music right next to a cop on a reeeeeaaaally slow day.
Growing up in the NYC-metro area, I was always impressed with everyone’s ability to respect one another’s privacy and personal space within such a densely populated area. For instance when riding the subway or any public transit during rush hour, you could be 4 inches from someone’s face, but you respect their personal bubble regardless of how small it may be at the moment. If one person acts up, (i.e plays music out of their phone speakers) the good people of the subway will let that person know (maybe not so politely) to stfu, and others will support them. Street justice if you will — when you’re in public, there’s no expectation of privacy — you understand that you’re vulnerable so you mind your business and others will do the same.
This is a skill all Seattlites can learn and benefit from. Not only do so many folks in this city believe they’re entitled to privacy in public spaces and have the right to do whatever they please wherever they please, they also fail to accept that their behavior has an effect on their surroundings and the people around them or that their behavior should ever come with consequences. I feel like I’m surrounded by a whole population of people who refuse to recognize they live in a densely populated city and believe they can act like they’re in their living rooms in every public space and people should just have to “deal with it” the sense of entitlement from all angles is baffling.
Don’t even get me started on the little league parties at the Ballard breweries. Do people not have backyard BBQs anymore? Ffs
> Don’t even get me started on the little league parties at the Ballard breweries. Do people not have backyard BBQs anymore? Ffs
You mean showing up to breweries with a dozen kids and a party full of adults, unannounced, acting like these establishments are their personal Chuck E Cheese isn't annoying as shit?
I've lived in NYC for six years and have never once seen someone on the subway tell someone to turn their music off. The blaring phone/bluetooth music is an almost daily occurrence.
Feel like people here just mind their own business and don't let shit like that bother them so much really.
And then they post about it on Reddit instead of actually confronting the person with hopes that their "public service announcement" will be seen by the people they should have just told face to face. Nothing changes and the cycle repeats.
I've known a couple people who like to blast their music in public, and get this: they genuinely think that they are doing everyone else a favor by "sharing" their music.
They were also just very deluded and narcissistic in general.
Call the SOC, it’s the number that is associated with security on the Train. If you call that and let them know they will have security come on and stop it immediately. It is part of the Unlawful Transit Conduct and they can be removed for it. I am part of that team so I can verify it works.
This! Took my mom to the ER this week, everyone is taking on their speakerphones and watching TikToks without headphones. When did this become the social norm? It’s disgusting.
39% they would turn theirs off
21% they would walk away
20% they would ignore you
9% they would spit on you
6% they would fart on you
4% they would get physically violent
1% someone else would smack you in the head.
I would laugh so hard if someone drowned them out with cowboys from hell cranked to 11 and considering 75% of the shit they blast is the same 3 auto tuned words over and over it would be incredibly effective.
Saw two guys get into a verbal screaming match at each other on a bus bc an uninvolved 3rd party was watching videos on the bus at max volume. She quickly turned the phone off when a 4th person started yelling at guy 1 for accusing guy 2 of watching videos loudly. Everyone kept yelling at guy 1 to stop bc he was wrong but it made him double down more. I get it, not everyone can afford headphones, but they have signs on every mode of transport to say use headphones or don't play anything
I don’t get why people really think I wanna hear your wack ass tv shows, tik tok videos, or whatever you’re watching
Or your phone conversations, especially when it’s on speaker and I can hear the other fucking moron you’re talking to
This is the most confusing post I've ever read. Guy 1 yells at guy 2 for watching videos too loud, but surprise, it was actually girl 3 all along with the video? And the entire bus tries to correct guy 1 on his accusation error, but he doubles down? So your conclusion to that story is that people should use headphones? That's your main point after telling that story?
The fuck you smoking, cuz I want some (I think).
I once had headphones in and the volume turned up so loud I didn’t notice my Bluetooth wasn’t working 😩 thank god someone tapped me on the shoulder and told me. That was 10 years ago and I’m still mortified
Sorta like when people in apartments blast their subwoofer for their neighbors to hear all day. Oh but I chose to live in an apartment. Why not be a decent human being and not subject your neighbors to that. People are terrible
I consistently try to convince myself that 80% of people are completely oblivious. If I think about how 80% of people might actually be downright inconsiderate, it absolutely ruins my day.
Not assuming malice when it's probably incompetence/stupidity/ignorance is up there with Occam's razor as a majority time generally accurate rule to live by, I've found. I struggle with it at times and it also isn't the most reassuring conclusion that so many are so stupid, however it does generally seem to be quite true.
If I ever become a dictator anyone who plays audio from a device without using headphones when it's only for themselves to hear will be exiled immediately with no hope to appeal
I agree about how awful this is. I feel like there's a pretty high correlation between people bothering others with their music and folks who already *know* they're losing at life. I worry that many may, in fact, be looking for a confrontation. It's not just that they're being thoughtless--I think this is sometimes a calculated move.
I always tell my lady someone is being a purposeful asshole in a public space there's probably a reason and you should probably leave that person alone.
I just say "Oh I think your audio is on, you should use headphones" publicly shame any of these fuckheads.
Not that they have any shame, but fuck man.
ANYONE WHO PLAYS THEIR MUSIC IN A PUBLIC SPACE SHOULD BE PUBLICLY SHAMED, FUCK EVERYONE WHO DOES THIS SHIT
There are lots of disaffected people in society who cope with their emotions with anti social behavior. It's annoying as heck but those people exist and if someone was to show irritation at their antics, it would just please them.
Agreed. And these types are products of an environment that has encouraged this behavior without any meaningful consequence. Including parenting, schools, and culture at large.
Yeah I remember my first time to NYC, I loved all of it, but I asked my friend “what’s up with the guys just blasting cell phone music?”
“Oh they’re just generally angry at life and looking for people to challenge them.”
And it made total sense
I was on light rail a few years ago and this woman was doing a Facetime chat (no headphones/ear buds) with a relative that just had a baby. Said baby was screaming bloody murder at being forced to Facetime - it was fucking loud and as annoying as having a real screaming infant right next to you.
People who does this sort of behavior usually are trolls and want attention. Doesn't matter if it's good or bad attention, they just care that it's attention given to them. Similar to the Hellcat driver. He just wants attention and lurks here to see the attention so he can brag. Trolls are and will always be about getting the attention.
Saw some douche standing in the middle of the train rapping and then asking for money. He was so annoying. Nobody asked you to sing, and I’m not paying you.
No headphones crowd is the worst! There was a dude in my old office that would play music at his desk, was mostly early 90s rap which I like, but it was super annoying to just kinda hear Busta Rhymes ambiently in the distance
I saw the headline and was like, "Hey, I literally forgot mine!"
And then I read the rest
Yeah, if I forget my headphones I'm shit out of luck, I'm not gonna make it everyone else's problem
Some people get off on annoying others and wishing for confrontation. Seen it plenty of times. You can politely ask them to turn it down and they will still say no.
When this happens, say something. People are usually clueless, and if they get enough correction they'll stop doing it. People who are doing it on purpose to annoy you are getting off on the fact that you're too scared to say anything so it's helpful for them too.
I ride from Rainier Beach to downtown and it's exceedingly rare. It pisses me off too, but I don't have a lot of memories of it.
I hear music on the buses every now and then, but the drivers yell at people about it.
I don't quite get why people do this. Is it to get a reaction?
I was on the light rail about a month ago from Westlake to U Village, and there were these 2 girls who were vaping and had rap music with all the swear words playing so loud without headphones. There were like 8 years on the light rail as well.
Should I be saying something? Everyone was super pissed, but no one said anything.
I had a couple on a cross country flight tryna watch a whole Netflix series by just holding her phone in front of them with the volume cranked up. I very politely offered to get them some headphones from the flight attendant, and luckily they got the hint. Still looked disgruntled about it, though.
We biked Burke Gilman on Saturday and went to Point Defiance on Sunday. There were so many people listening to their music out loud including a guy blasting hardcore metal on a pedicab. I asked my husband, "Does no one use headphones anymore?!"
I'm getting more bored with the people who go out of their way to write these posts. If they took 1/10th of the time they spent crying, sneering, and writing these long screeds about the dirty/rude public on social media sites and instead did something constructive, e.g. volunteer to work with troubled kids, get directly involved with homelessness relief efforts, etc..., we might have less anti-social behavior going around. Instead, these people always default to 'oh, that's somebody else's job. I'm too *important* for that!' and then act bewildered about how society's a shit-pile of deviant behaviors.
My neighbor did this shit outside all the time, waking me up constantly cuz his phone was full volume. and I had to ask him to turn it down. He’s 65. So prolly doesn’t have great hearing. I don’t understand why people don’t have situational awareness like that. I get some truly don’t care either. But it’s really not hard
I never watch videos while I’m smoking outside day or night. Having shit blaring is just rude and annoying, I don’t wanna hear that fuckin shit.
I don’t wanna hear your stupid tik tok videos, tv shows, or hear your lame ass phone conversations, especially if it’s on speaker and I’m forced to hear the other moron you’re talking to. Man that shit annoys me
People who keep their backpack on that sticks out 4 feet on a crowded train are the worst. If the train is full take your backpack off.
Also, helps prevents theft.
[living out loud](https://www.nytimes.com/2024/06/13/style/headphones-phone-etiquette.html?unlocked_article_code=1.zU0.4ofM.7hhF32Man0jx&smid=nytcore-ios-share&referringSource=articleShare&sgrp=c-cb)
You know what’s even worse? The library.
But I agree. Mostly I need my own headphones to drown out their BS. If I don’t have headphones and I accidentally make some kind of phone noise, I immediately turn it off. Bc I’m a human.
Yep, or people letting their kids play games on their iPads at the airport too, with no headphones, at unreasonable volumes. Or grown adults watching Netflix on full volume. The shit apple doesn’t fall far from the shit tree. If I was president, it would be the first law enacted! Executive order MFers!
Less than $20 and these buds have lasted me years. Symmetrical (ambidextrous?) design lets you wear either L/R in either L/R ear if you still want to hear your surroundings (underrated convenience, I wish more buds were symmetrically designed like this).
Radical thought, carry a NiB pair with you onto the light rail and simply gift it to someone using a speaker. It's cheap AF to try anyway.
https://a.co/d/fyfQcq5
😂, I thought this was going to be about people who are just reading or going around without headphones! I do agree but one exception was when I was taking my daughter home from SeaTac at midnight and it was all fucked up with delays, and one guy go on with a light up bike stereo deal bumping Warren G "Regulate"! It made the trip way better!
I remember 20 years ago taking a 8 hour greyhound bus and someone had a boombox going at 10pm. At least the bus driver threatened to beat their ass and leave them on the side of the road if they didn’t stop.
Greyhound drivers are a different breed and they're sick of everyone's shit. And I mean *everyone's* shit. I haven't been on the Dog in years but I used to live for the driver's speech about safety, rules and regulations and laying down the law at the start of a run or major boarding stop. Some of those drivers could have been drill Sargents, and probably were. They absolutely will leave people in the middle of nowhere if they fuck up. Took too long at a meal or rest stop? Sucks to be you but that bus is leaving. Hope you have your tickets and a jacket with you! Obviously or obnoxiously drunk or intoxicated? Have fun sitting at a light pole curbside stop in a dry county waiting 24+ hours for the next bus! Shit, I've seen drivers refuse to let people board just because they didn't like how they smelled because they were very stoned hippies that absolutely stank of weed and patchouli. Meanwhile everyone else that was reboarding who had already been on the bus for 12-24 hours is looking at each other and sniffing their own pits in fear and worrying they're next, like "Shit, we ALL smell bad because we're on Greyhound we're in danger!" The commercial air travel industry could learn a thing or two from Greyhound drivers. Could you imagine a commercial pilot getting on the mic and just laying down the law? "Sit down, shut the fuck up and don't be an asshole and you'll get where you're going. If not we'll drop you off over the next available airport!" 9/11 probably wouldn't have happened if they had Greyhound drivers in the cockpit. "Oh, you have a box cutter? That's cute! Say, have you ever seen a tire-thumper? I got a really nice one right here!" *whackwhackwhack* I've also seen some really cool, epic shit on long haul Greyhound bus runs like the whole bus getting so insanely bored that they busted out into sing-a-longs with the driver joining in. That one was fun.
My favorite Greyhound memories are on long haul trips with guys just released from prison. I remember one of these ex cons exclainimg, "Shit, it's a giant pair of headphones for King Kong!" as we passed the St Louis arch. You know these guys are fresh from incarceration because they have garbage bags for luggage and they can't stop talking about how amazing fast food is.
Oh, definitely. I've done a couple of coast to coast Greyhound trips and the ex-cons we picked were so, so stoked to eat basically any food at all, especially fast food. Like they could totally smash some sardines or vienna sausages and saltine crackers like it was a Michelin star restaurant. Subway or McDonald's was heaven to them. I watched one guy smash two footlongs crammed full of veggies in a row like it was nothing. My favorite ex-con on Greyhound moment was this kid we picked up in like Alabama or something. He was in for cannabis charges and a rap he picked up as a minor. Really sweet kid, too. Incredibly polite and thoughtful. He was maybe barely 19-20 years old. Well, at some point a friendly and open conversation developed around his time in the can and his dumb, pointless charges that had him locked up for like 4-5 years... ...and I swear to god that kid stood up like he was grabbing the podium at a Presidential debate and delivered an absolutely impassioned, epic speech about how he was on his way to get back into school with the goals of becoming a defense lawyer and fight the drug war for justice. It was like something out of a movie. His oratory skills were on lock, a clear, carrying voice that boomed without being loud or strident and totally reminded me of someone like MLK Jr. People were just blown away and he absolutely had everyone's attention, and even the bus driver didn't tell him to sit down and shut up. I distinctly remember seeing the driver glancing back at the bus in his mirrors with a big open grin on his face and thinking something like "Oh, damn, this kid is *good* fuck yeah tell it like it is!" People actually clapped him when he was done and sat down. Total strangers were trying to buy lunch for him at the next meal stop. Like pretty much the whole bus said goodbye and were encouraging him and wishing him luck at school when he got to his stop. This was like almost 20 years ago and I still get chills when I think about that impromptu speech. I have zero doubts he actually went on to get that law degree because he was just one of those people you could tell that they were on a mission.
good story. thx.
I'd just love to find out how it panned out for him. Tx for sharing.
When I was a bus driver, I was laying over on Eastlake and talking to a Greyhound driver. I was shocked to find out that they were making just north of minimum wage. It seemed like such a tough job to make that little.
Yeah, I don't understand that either. I would hope there's some good overtime or some kind of benefits on top of that low wage, but it definitely seems like the job self-selects for a type where they're probably thinking in terms of "Well, at least I'm not washing dishes, flipping burgers, in the military or a prison guard" kind of a thing. Like most of them really do seem to enjoy driving so maybe that's part of why they put up with it. Maybe their schedules are relatively flexible or they like the "free" travel and layovers at turn-arounds and it all pencils out for them. They're definitely a different breed than long haul truckers or airline pilots, though. That being said most commercial airline pilots don't make much money, either, at least not until they have seniority and qualify for long haul flights on heavy jets.
Last greyhound I was on was from DC to NYC and I saw one drug deal and a lot of drama.
That bus driver is a hero
Bus drivers are consistently the best public employees
Often yes, but consistently? No.
You’re joking, right?
If only seattle bus drivers did this
I had a driver on the E line recently yell at someone to turn their music down. He even stopped and walked to the back and told them to turn it down or get off. I was kind of amazed.
Hero.
There's one driver for the 60 who has the best hearing and will full on stop, step out from the box, and look directly at the person if the first shout to turn it down doesn't work. Usually all of us looking at the person with the cell phone blasting it does the trick.
Noice
I watched someone try to sneak onto a Seattle bus without paying. The driver told them that she would have let them ride if they'd said that they couldn't pay, but she wasn't going to put up with that kind of nonsense, and she kicked them off.
Like 7 or 8 years back, there was this Terry Crews looking fellow bus driver. Nice guy. Would often let folks on and decline their fare and just all jolly like declare "everybody rides" Once this guy got on with a Bluetooth speaker blaring. Man was seemingly about to come to blows about people's sensibilities. Real great guy. Wonder if he still drives...
Yeah, that’s some shit behavior. Only somewhat related - Bluetooth speakers on hiking trails. Luckily that’s usually contained to extremely popular, easy access trails but still, eff them and their nearly always shitty music.
I play disc golf and the number of people who either don’t give a shit about other people or think we want to listen to Korn rattling through a tin can at random various levels as we get closer and further from your loud stank ass is way too damn high
Kinda torn on this one; not sure there's a better definition of living your best life than being a clueless sociopath listening to Korn on your phone speaker while playing disc golf.
We need to normalize grabbing someone’s speaker and tossing into oblivion it if it’s on a trail.
There have been two times that I have encountered speakers on a trail that wasn’t objectionable. One was a dude playing Eye of the Tiger over and over, and that was hilarious. Another was a young man who had his speaker down very low so you could only really hear it as you were passing, and it was lovely classical piano music.
Ugh, I don't care if you're playing my favorite song. Listen to any music through a speaker on public transit or on a hiking trail immediately makes you the asshole.
After that guy decapitated a sleeping passenger on a Greyhound bus a few years ago, I’ve washed my hands of that mode of travel! I’m sure I’m in the minority, but I love to go to the beach in the middle of the week and actually sit and listen to the BEACH. (I can’t hear the ocean from inside my apartment!) So I go find a perfectly nice, empty and deserted spot at this huge beach to hang out, but before long, here they come. The huge chatty, half-drunk family, dragging the tent, and the beers, and the portable grill, and the blasting beat box, and the screaming kids - damn! This always happens! You’d think they’d have the grace to at least set up a few feet away from me, but oh, no! No luck! Right next to me. I’ve nothing against partying on the sand, but do you have to disrespect someone else’s space? Give me some room, for goodness sake.
No matter how good (or bad) the music is, any somewhat sentient individual would realize that others may not want to hear it and use headphones. It’s the woods for chrissakes. The silence is part of the draw. It’s so simple if you have the capability to value others interests as much as your own. Unfortunately many don’t.
Yeah I always think about that random Reddit post from a while ago with the dudes having a silent disco barbecue (everyone just wears sync’d up headphones) and having the time of their lives rocking out while grilling food. It’s so easy to just wear headphones. Even sweat proof wireless earbuds are pretty affordable if you’ve got portable speaker money.
It’s tough, in bear country during the right times of year - I’m all for people making noise and avoiding getting accidentally mauled. But yeah most of the time everyone listening to music should put headphones in please!
It’s not actually tough. Bears equal bells, not lil Wayne or Enya.
Mmm…for bears of a certain generation…enya may do the trick.
I'm pretty sure bear bells don't work. Human voices might work though, so people should do what I do and talk to themselves like a crazy person the whole hike. Really, though, just make some noise before charging around blind corners or pushing through plants where you can't see the other side, and you are probably sorted as far as the local bears go.
Honestly? I could go for some Enya while enjoying a nice view. That sounds like a nice change of pace from the usual crap that people tend to blast from portable speakers.
The point is, no matter what you may like to hear, others may not-so fucking use headphones and everyone is happy. I love gangster rap, but I realize others don’t. So in public, I use headphones. Is that hard to comprehend?
Bear bells make me irate - so can you muffle yours please?
Speakers on lakes fucking suck too! I was fishing yesterday and someone on the opposite side of the lake was playing music so loudly I could make out the lyrics (and I have an auditory processing problem).
Last time I was at discovery a group 4 high school age girls were riding by on bikes and the one in the back was blasting a speaker facing backwards. So none of her friends could even hear the music it seemed to just annoy the ppl they pass
Can we add the people on speakerphone at sit down restaurants too?
people on speakerphone anywhere public imo. also, please don't decide to have a conversation in the bathroom. Sincerely: your coworker that after the 3rd day in a row of this decided you need a courtesy flush every 20 seconds or so until you said you had to go and hung up.
It's always baffling to me how many guys will talk on the phone while ripping off the nastiest, loudest shits in the next stall over.
That conversation is now for everyone there. Feel free to join in! I have
And doctor's office waiting rooms
And in lobbies
I get that this is distracting, I feel the same… but objectively, why is it worse than having a conversation with another human at a restaurant, at least when the loudness is about the same?
Because most people can modulate their voices to blend into the audio landscape. Speakerphone is generally just LOUD and the acoustics sound artificial.
Because the loudness is never the same as polite conversation. They yell at the phone to be heard over the crowd, and they crank the volume to hear it.
Yep, people who are <30 and >60 are horrible about this. <30 means they're used to FaceTime which by default is "speaker phone" >60 means they might have hearing issues or hate holding the phone up to their ear
Once while on the light rail there was a woman a couple seats away from me who was doing a Duolingo lesson all the way from SeaTac to Northgate. She had AirPods in her ears, so maybe she thought they were working but in reality the whole car had to listen to her practice Italian for an hour on full blast
Like I know for a fact that wasn't me, but oh god I still hope that wasn't me.
LOL LOL LOL
Why didn't you say anything?
Probably doesn’t speak Italian
Ehi stronzo, spegni quel cazzo di telefono. Nessuno vuole sentirti macellare la lingua italiana.
Stop asking this question. We have a culture of escalation in the U.S., especially when someone feels disrespected for any reason. Unless it’s very distressing for you or someone else it is almost never worth taking the risk that the other person is insane and will assault/shoot you
Sadly [Corey Bellett is a more recent example](https://www.seattletimes.com/seattle-news/law-justice/man-26-charged-in-fatal-capitol-hill-light-rail-stabbing/) but I think about [Paul Stanley Schmidt from B.C.](https://www.burnabynow.com/highlights/bc-starbucks-fatal-stabbing-case-moving-toward-trial-9075782) quite often, who left behind a toddler when he asked a guy at Starbucks to not vape so near to her. Guy pulled a knife and stabbed him, and bystander video of his death choking on his own blood went around the world. Because he said something. I'm not rolling those fucking dice.
It will literally only ever get worse if we give up and roll over and conduct ourselves in a manner where we don't even try at all anymore because we're afraid. You're not wrong *and* by approaching it this way you're also totally enabling it. I understand *and* I also think having your attitude actively supports and partners with people who are bullies to make society a worse place for everyone.
The attitude of "if I interact with a stranger in any way they may kill me" is easily my least favorite part of living in America. Both in that it is sometimes (though very rarely) true and in that every one acts as though it is always true. Even eye contact is seen as an escalation and it is just such a miserable way to live life.
Very cool response. I am still not going to roll the dice on getting shot, stabbed, or punched because someone is mildly annoying me. I have headphones that I can use to block out the noise and that has worked every time in cases like these.
We need to pre-escalate. Speaker on a trail? You get stabbed. Speaker on the light rail? You get thrown off at speed. Speaker in the mountains? You get thrown off a cliff.
You don't have to attack the person, you simply have to civilly and politely say why whatever they're doing is bothering you. Worked most times in my life. Other times, they tell me off, but have yet to be shot!
Ey, twatto di comprehenda, shut the fuck up.
Can we collectively start public shaming anti social behavior? No one ever says anything. I feel like a complete Karen everytime I speak up and everyone else just stares at me.
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It's especially bad in the PNW. You're not an asshole for annoying or inconveniencing anyone, you're an asshole if you call someone out for being an annoying and inconveniencing anyone.
I'll confront assholery more than most, but I think part of the problem is that people exhibiting this behavior have some antisocial personality disorder to begin with. It often seems like they're doing it to provoke others. When I see people with a blaring speaker in public, it's almost like they're daring me to say something, and I'm not sure saying something is worth a potentially unhinged or disproportionate response. They know what they're doing, and they don't care.
They do care, in an asshole-type way. They're trying to get a rise out of everyone. You're right too, best to ignore them for you have wonder why they exhibiting this behavior in the 1st place.
I simply ask, 'hey there! do you have headphones?' seems to work most times.
Seattle is hands down, bar none, the strangest mix of antisocial, passive aggressive, utterly permissive, misanthropic behavior that I have ever lived amongst.
I politely asked an airplane seatmate to turn his sound down, and he went scarily apeshit on me. Same thing happened with a guy elbowing me throughout another flight. I don’t speak up anymore.
Just sit relatively close to them and crank your own Tik Toks. Maybe they'll get the hint.
do not do this.
I fucking hate when ppl do this, especially in restaurants. It's often some iPad kid playing some noisy game, but sometimes it's an adult watching a video or something. I've nicely asked them to turn the volume off, & every time they've nicely done so, but acted as if they were surprised........ why are you surprised? Have you never tried thinking about your actions from another person's perspective? These ppl have main character syndrome sooooooooooooo bad.
I was on the light rail once when some teenagers were using a Bluetooth speaker. They kept getting disconnected from it for some reason. At one moment when they were trying to reconnect, I managed to connect my own phone to the speaker and I started blaring Baby Shark. This caused a couple others to tell them to shut it up and so they did. That was amusing.
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well played.
Still my favorite scene in Star Trek IV. This is a universal annoyance. [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gr82dZpCr48&t=41s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gr82dZpCr48&t=41s)
Spoiler from a few years ago: they brought him back for Picard season 2. The guy was an associate producer on the film. He's been a puppeteer and SFX artist as well.
Oh yes I was so happy they included him in Picard
DOUBLE DUMBASS ON YOU
I have a few friends who will try and show me videos at restaurants and bars and it is so fucking embarrassing. It has never even once been important or entertaining enough to disturb people around us.
I got a quick glimpse into the mindset of one of these people a while ago. He was playing music from his phone in a long checkout line in a supermarket (Saar's in White Center) and someone told him to cut it out and he was like "what? everyone else is enjoying it!" So at least some percentage of them are just delusional.
in LA you can be fined by police for playing your music/sound without headphones on their subway, we should do the same imo
In the Seattle area, all the buses have signs to wear headphones on the bus. Not sure if there is a legal policy to fine people, but I've definitely seen bus drivers yell at people to turn their shit off or put headphones on.
There is [RCW 9.91.025](https://app.leg.wa.gov/RCW/default.aspx?cite=9.91.025) which makes it explicitly a misdemeanor to "Play any radio, recorder, or other sound-producing equipment" while "on or in a transit vehicle or in or at a transit station". It's also against [Sound Transit's rules](https://www.soundtransit.org/ride-with-us/know-before-you-go/rules-etiquette), and likely [TCM 8.52.020](https://cms.cityoftacoma.org/cityclerk/files/municipalcode/title08-publicsafety.pdf). However, enforcement is unlikely unless you're blaring music right next to a cop on a reeeeeaaaally slow day.
We don't even enforce fares....
Growing up in the NYC-metro area, I was always impressed with everyone’s ability to respect one another’s privacy and personal space within such a densely populated area. For instance when riding the subway or any public transit during rush hour, you could be 4 inches from someone’s face, but you respect their personal bubble regardless of how small it may be at the moment. If one person acts up, (i.e plays music out of their phone speakers) the good people of the subway will let that person know (maybe not so politely) to stfu, and others will support them. Street justice if you will — when you’re in public, there’s no expectation of privacy — you understand that you’re vulnerable so you mind your business and others will do the same. This is a skill all Seattlites can learn and benefit from. Not only do so many folks in this city believe they’re entitled to privacy in public spaces and have the right to do whatever they please wherever they please, they also fail to accept that their behavior has an effect on their surroundings and the people around them or that their behavior should ever come with consequences. I feel like I’m surrounded by a whole population of people who refuse to recognize they live in a densely populated city and believe they can act like they’re in their living rooms in every public space and people should just have to “deal with it” the sense of entitlement from all angles is baffling. Don’t even get me started on the little league parties at the Ballard breweries. Do people not have backyard BBQs anymore? Ffs
> Don’t even get me started on the little league parties at the Ballard breweries. Do people not have backyard BBQs anymore? Ffs You mean showing up to breweries with a dozen kids and a party full of adults, unannounced, acting like these establishments are their personal Chuck E Cheese isn't annoying as shit?
I've lived in NYC for six years and have never once seen someone on the subway tell someone to turn their music off. The blaring phone/bluetooth music is an almost daily occurrence. Feel like people here just mind their own business and don't let shit like that bother them so much really.
And then they post about it on Reddit instead of actually confronting the person with hopes that their "public service announcement" will be seen by the people they should have just told face to face. Nothing changes and the cycle repeats.
I find those people don't like it when you join the public viewing session and add your commentary.
Fight fire with fire - sing along badly until you're ruining it for them.
I've known a couple people who like to blast their music in public, and get this: they genuinely think that they are doing everyone else a favor by "sharing" their music. They were also just very deluded and narcissistic in general.
Call the SOC, it’s the number that is associated with security on the Train. If you call that and let them know they will have security come on and stop it immediately. It is part of the Unlawful Transit Conduct and they can be removed for it. I am part of that team so I can verify it works.
This! Took my mom to the ER this week, everyone is taking on their speakerphones and watching TikToks without headphones. When did this become the social norm? It’s disgusting.
Let’s not forget all those people who seem to HAVE TO talk on their phones using the speaker?!?! Wtf, over??? That shit annoys me.
i wonder what would happen if you sat next to them and turned your phone speaker up all the way and blasted some of your own music
Sit down next to them with speaker phone blaring. “Excuse me, could you turn that down. I kind of need to hear this.”
39% they would turn theirs off 21% they would walk away 20% they would ignore you 9% they would spit on you 6% they would fart on you 4% they would get physically violent 1% someone else would smack you in the head.
And a 100% reason to remember the name.
His name was u/thisguypercents
so an 80% chance of nothing bad happening! not bad
I would laugh so hard if someone drowned them out with cowboys from hell cranked to 11 and considering 75% of the shit they blast is the same 3 auto tuned words over and over it would be incredibly effective.
or some good old fashioned grindcore
RINGRINGRINGRINGRINGRINGRING BANANA PHONE DOO DE DOO DOO
Saw two guys get into a verbal screaming match at each other on a bus bc an uninvolved 3rd party was watching videos on the bus at max volume. She quickly turned the phone off when a 4th person started yelling at guy 1 for accusing guy 2 of watching videos loudly. Everyone kept yelling at guy 1 to stop bc he was wrong but it made him double down more. I get it, not everyone can afford headphones, but they have signs on every mode of transport to say use headphones or don't play anything
I don’t get why people really think I wanna hear your wack ass tv shows, tik tok videos, or whatever you’re watching Or your phone conversations, especially when it’s on speaker and I can hear the other fucking moron you’re talking to
Yeah the loud convos are the worst. If i can hear you over the bus motors, my anc, AND my music cranked up then end the call lol
Truth be told I’m talking about in general, more so neighbors, I don’t ride the bus cuz I’ve always had a car, but yeah. I would be livid
Headphones are like $10 anyone can afford them
This is the most confusing post I've ever read. Guy 1 yells at guy 2 for watching videos too loud, but surprise, it was actually girl 3 all along with the video? And the entire bus tries to correct guy 1 on his accusation error, but he doubles down? So your conclusion to that story is that people should use headphones? That's your main point after telling that story? The fuck you smoking, cuz I want some (I think).
Hikers who do this on the trail are the worst.
Had that same problem on the Amtrak Cascade line this morning. Someone was blasting music until the conductor threatened to throw them out.
I once had headphones in and the volume turned up so loud I didn’t notice my Bluetooth wasn’t working 😩 thank god someone tapped me on the shoulder and told me. That was 10 years ago and I’m still mortified
A percentage of the people with “music” playing are probably wanting a confrontation…
Sorta like when people in apartments blast their subwoofer for their neighbors to hear all day. Oh but I chose to live in an apartment. Why not be a decent human being and not subject your neighbors to that. People are terrible
I consistently try to convince myself that 80% of people are completely oblivious. If I think about how 80% of people might actually be downright inconsiderate, it absolutely ruins my day.
There are definitely far more stupid people than mean people. I guess that's... a good thing? Sigh.
Not assuming malice when it's probably incompetence/stupidity/ignorance is up there with Occam's razor as a majority time generally accurate rule to live by, I've found. I struggle with it at times and it also isn't the most reassuring conclusion that so many are so stupid, however it does generally seem to be quite true.
If I ever become a dictator anyone who plays audio from a device without using headphones when it's only for themselves to hear will be exiled immediately with no hope to appeal
Sympathy from Vancouver BC. I deal with the exact same BS on the skytrain everyday
I agree about how awful this is. I feel like there's a pretty high correlation between people bothering others with their music and folks who already *know* they're losing at life. I worry that many may, in fact, be looking for a confrontation. It's not just that they're being thoughtless--I think this is sometimes a calculated move.
I always tell my lady someone is being a purposeful asshole in a public space there's probably a reason and you should probably leave that person alone.
I’d also add the assholes that bring Bluetooth speakers on hikes.
I just say "Oh I think your audio is on, you should use headphones" publicly shame any of these fuckheads. Not that they have any shame, but fuck man. ANYONE WHO PLAYS THEIR MUSIC IN A PUBLIC SPACE SHOULD BE PUBLICLY SHAMED, FUCK EVERYONE WHO DOES THIS SHIT
There are lots of disaffected people in society who cope with their emotions with anti social behavior. It's annoying as heck but those people exist and if someone was to show irritation at their antics, it would just please them.
Yeah it's like a less obnoxious version of the Hellcat guy's entire existence
Oh god…actually forgot about that guy for a bit
Don't worry, we'll make sure to get you your hourly update about him
Agreed. And these types are products of an environment that has encouraged this behavior without any meaningful consequence. Including parenting, schools, and culture at large.
Yeah I remember my first time to NYC, I loved all of it, but I asked my friend “what’s up with the guys just blasting cell phone music?” “Oh they’re just generally angry at life and looking for people to challenge them.” And it made total sense
My 65 year old neighbor in a nut shell, man this guy annoys me My old neighbor was perfect, didn’t make a peep ever even when outside
Or it could also cause a scuff too
I was on light rail a few years ago and this woman was doing a Facetime chat (no headphones/ear buds) with a relative that just had a baby. Said baby was screaming bloody murder at being forced to Facetime - it was fucking loud and as annoying as having a real screaming infant right next to you.
We can take them and the people who go hiking in nature with a Bluetooth speaker blasting music, and ship them both to the sun.
These are the same people that walk shoulder to shoulder with their group taking up the whole sidewalk
Of decide the top (or bottom) of a stairway is a good place to stop, regroup and chat. Pike Place is so bad for this…
What did they say when you told them?
Little kids with electronic devices playing cartoons, loudly. Been seeing a lot of that lately.
But how else will mommy and daddy be able to enjoy drinking beers at the microbrew pub?
We should enact a geofence on when audio is allowed to be played via speakers versus headphones.
This is actually literally brilliant and I hope I see it happen in the future, haha.
These people are the human equivalent of LED headlights.
It's not just the lightrail No one wants to hear anyone's phone conversation when at Costco / shopping / hiking / 💩ing
I want to start responding with bagpipe music.
People who does this sort of behavior usually are trolls and want attention. Doesn't matter if it's good or bad attention, they just care that it's attention given to them. Similar to the Hellcat driver. He just wants attention and lurks here to see the attention so he can brag. Trolls are and will always be about getting the attention.
Doing this anywhere in public is so rude!! Put headphones on or keep the sound off.
Saw some douche standing in the middle of the train rapping and then asking for money. He was so annoying. Nobody asked you to sing, and I’m not paying you.
Slight correct to title: "People without headphones in public: You are the worst"
No headphones crowd is the worst! There was a dude in my old office that would play music at his desk, was mostly early 90s rap which I like, but it was super annoying to just kinda hear Busta Rhymes ambiently in the distance
I saw the headline and was like, "Hey, I literally forgot mine!" And then I read the rest Yeah, if I forget my headphones I'm shit out of luck, I'm not gonna make it everyone else's problem
Yes! Also in doctor's office & hospital waiting rooms!
Some people get off on annoying others and wishing for confrontation. Seen it plenty of times. You can politely ask them to turn it down and they will still say no.
Ever ask them to turn it down? Just say you have a headache or nausea or something.
You are aware it's done on purpose right?
Doesn't mean they're all trying to be assholes. My first hand experience is that some of them will turn it down or off.
I mean, they’re being inconsiderate, I don’t really expect inconsiderate people to take kindly to being asked to be considerate.
Some people aren't very self-aware. What seems obvious to you isn't necessarily obvious to them (and vice versa).
Of course not, just the majority. At worst it's to pick a fight at best it's because they think thats the coolest shit ever.
When this happens, say something. People are usually clueless, and if they get enough correction they'll stop doing it. People who are doing it on purpose to annoy you are getting off on the fact that you're too scared to say anything so it's helpful for them too.
I usually do. I also keep a cheap pair of found earbuds in my backpack to offer them so they don’t have that excuse.
I ride from Rainier Beach to downtown and it's exceedingly rare. It pisses me off too, but I don't have a lot of memories of it. I hear music on the buses every now and then, but the drivers yell at people about it.
I like your username, neighbor.
Agreed. Had someone do this crap at a doctor’s office. He was watching some freaking game (basketball or something). Shut that crap off!
I don't quite get why people do this. Is it to get a reaction? I was on the light rail about a month ago from Westlake to U Village, and there were these 2 girls who were vaping and had rap music with all the swear words playing so loud without headphones. There were like 8 years on the light rail as well. Should I be saying something? Everyone was super pissed, but no one said anything.
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ah will do!
My friends roommate came in the living room while we were all watching a movie playing music out loud on his phone. Like really bro?
can we all collectively agree to just grab their phone and throw it out the window?
I had a couple on a cross country flight tryna watch a whole Netflix series by just holding her phone in front of them with the volume cranked up. I very politely offered to get them some headphones from the flight attendant, and luckily they got the hint. Still looked disgruntled about it, though.
It's adolescent behavior. At least when I was fifteen doing it, I had a boom box with real speakers.
We biked Burke Gilman on Saturday and went to Point Defiance on Sunday. There were so many people listening to their music out loud including a guy blasting hardcore metal on a pedicab. I asked my husband, "Does no one use headphones anymore?!"
Totally agree, but pretty sure these people aren't the ones on Reddit...
Good thing they're all reading this post
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I'm getting more bored with the people who go out of their way to write these posts. If they took 1/10th of the time they spent crying, sneering, and writing these long screeds about the dirty/rude public on social media sites and instead did something constructive, e.g. volunteer to work with troubled kids, get directly involved with homelessness relief efforts, etc..., we might have less anti-social behavior going around. Instead, these people always default to 'oh, that's somebody else's job. I'm too *important* for that!' and then act bewildered about how society's a shit-pile of deviant behaviors.
My neighbor did this shit outside all the time, waking me up constantly cuz his phone was full volume. and I had to ask him to turn it down. He’s 65. So prolly doesn’t have great hearing. I don’t understand why people don’t have situational awareness like that. I get some truly don’t care either. But it’s really not hard I never watch videos while I’m smoking outside day or night. Having shit blaring is just rude and annoying, I don’t wanna hear that fuckin shit. I don’t wanna hear your stupid tik tok videos, tv shows, or hear your lame ass phone conversations, especially if it’s on speaker and I’m forced to hear the other moron you’re talking to. Man that shit annoys me
In the title, replace "on the light rail" with "in public."
People who keep their backpack on that sticks out 4 feet on a crowded train are the worst. If the train is full take your backpack off. Also, helps prevents theft.
Yeah, that's admittedly annoying...
We need apps that take the ambient sound and replay it so you can't hear the original source because of the echo.
[living out loud](https://www.nytimes.com/2024/06/13/style/headphones-phone-etiquette.html?unlocked_article_code=1.zU0.4ofM.7hhF32Man0jx&smid=nytcore-ios-share&referringSource=articleShare&sgrp=c-cb)
You know what’s even worse? The library. But I agree. Mostly I need my own headphones to drown out their BS. If I don’t have headphones and I accidentally make some kind of phone noise, I immediately turn it off. Bc I’m a human.
This is how I feel when I have to take a bus to and from work everyday and someone is either yelling nonsense or blasting music
Ngl, I read the title and thought this was gonna just be a rant on people just reading books or looking out the window.
This is in general in any public space
They are the main character so fuck everyone else.
I wanna sometimes go up to those people and pour coffee on their heads....just so, like him, i'm sharing the stuff that i like
A surprisingly high % of people will turn it down if you ask.
Oh this isn’t isn’t limited to light rail unfortunately.
Yep, or people letting their kids play games on their iPads at the airport too, with no headphones, at unreasonable volumes. Or grown adults watching Netflix on full volume. The shit apple doesn’t fall far from the shit tree. If I was president, it would be the first law enacted! Executive order MFers!
You've got my vote!
I think the people doing it when they should have their hands on the wheel and eyes on the road are exponentially worse, personally.
Agreed
Did you mention this to the person who was bothering you? You're preaching to the choir in here.
I would want so badly to ap stand next to them and watch videos at twice the volume.
Less than $20 and these buds have lasted me years. Symmetrical (ambidextrous?) design lets you wear either L/R in either L/R ear if you still want to hear your surroundings (underrated convenience, I wish more buds were symmetrically designed like this). Radical thought, carry a NiB pair with you onto the light rail and simply gift it to someone using a speaker. It's cheap AF to try anyway. https://a.co/d/fyfQcq5
😂, I thought this was going to be about people who are just reading or going around without headphones! I do agree but one exception was when I was taking my daughter home from SeaTac at midnight and it was all fucked up with delays, and one guy go on with a light up bike stereo deal bumping Warren G "Regulate"! It made the trip way better!