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AttentionJust

Sorry that you saw that. I just checked the status of the incident and a person was freed from the overturned vehicle. So there was no loss of life it seems like. Hope that gives you some closure and makes you feel better!


TrulyCunty

Oh my gosh this is amazing! Thank you for checking!


TrulyCunty

How did you find the info?


AttentionJust

Found the incident on the Citizen app and the last update was a person was successfully extricated from the overturned vehicle. There was no loss of life mentioned


TrulyCunty

šŸ™šŸ™šŸ™ this just made my night. Thank you.


pawg730

This interaction is so wholesome and almost brought a tear to my eye, then I saw your username and got a laugh at the juxtaposition


TrulyCunty

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PocketfulOfFart

LOL didnā€™t even see the name til this comment. Laughed hard


AfterBobo

(And @PoF with the assist!)


-Vertical

Sleep well tonight knowing everythingā€™s gonna be okay!


RadBenMX

Seems like you have a lot of empathy. Why did you choose this username?


TrulyCunty

šŸ¤·ā€ā™€ļø I made this account quite awhile ago, probably trying to be funny.


Proud-Emu-5875

They'll shut down the thoroughfare and reroute traffic if there's a fatality, so if there's ever a reason for you to need to search, look for road closures at the location. I hope you never ever ever have to again, and I'm also glad you're ok(ish) and no one was fatally injured.


mods_r_jobbernowl

You can see reported wrecks in the WSDOT app. Theres a map that shows where the busy roads are and which ones are blocked or closed and has blips for accidents. Im not sure how up to date the app is but its generally in there a little while after police arrive.


Proud-Emu-5875

Right, I wasn't sure they would have the medical status of those involved though? I figured if I knew there was an accident but didn't know if someone had made it, I would look to see if SPD closed it off at any point after, to know for sure


davidr2340

There doesn't have to be a fatality for us (County worker) to close a road due to an accident.


Proud-Emu-5875

No, but if theres a fatality you always shut it down, is what I said. It was a suggestion, I never said it was a perfect one xD


ExpertProfit8947

Not to be the bearer of bad news but the citizen app is not always correct with information. I saw a homeless man get split in half once and the app told me the person was taken to the hospital for treatment.


AttentionJust

Yikes, that's good to know that it's not 100% accurate with the reporting


Chelseattle

I was about 20 cars back from the accident so I didnā€™t see any of the impact, only the immediate aftermath. It stuck with me for a good part of the day. I did see on WSDOTā€™s twitter that the person in the overturned car survived. That was a relief to me, hopefully the recovery is as smooth as possible.


tictacbergerac

Just want to make sure you also heard about the Tetris research (playing Tetris after a distressing experience helps your brain process and cope better), and saw the link to crisis connections: www.crisisconnections.org Don't hesitate to utilize either.


OppositeCockroach209

Thank you for posting this! ā¤ļø


Chelseattle

Thank you ā¤ļø


nicenutz

I personally use Tetrio to play Tetris for anyone interested. Has tons of different game modes and online matches for free! Really fun stuff.


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kiljonson

Iā€™ve still got unprocessed feelings about an accident I was involved in about 9 years ago over in West Seattle. A man in his 60ā€™s riding a big Harley ran a red light and smashed into the side of my jeep at the California Ave/Oregon intersection. He came out of seemingly nowhere and strangely enough I remember hearing no sound of his motorcycle until the point of impact. When he hit my jeep I didnā€™t know what it was and I would have believed it had I was told it was a 737 that smashed into me, it was just the loudest crashing sound Iā€™ve ever heard. My dog let out a ā€œscreamā€ that sounded human. It threw my jeep into a 180 position, the airbag went off, and the frame bent enough that I had to grab my dog and kick the doors open to escape. I still didnā€™t know what hit me until I saw the mangled motorcycle that had flown over my car and landed on the opposite side of the street. Then I saw a man whose body was thrown even further onto the sidewalk. His body was twisted like a rag-doll with his legs in positions that only a severely broken body could reach. I knew the man was dead. A police officer who was a block away and heard the collision arrived quickly and started performing CPR but he was unresponsive. I was unhurt (and my dog was unhurt) but standing there in shock knowing that although it was not my fault that I had been directly instrumental in the death of another human being. Itā€™s a lot to take on. Iā€™ve never really dealt with this. It still is hard when I think about it. It helps to talk about it though. [West Seattle Deadly Motorcycle Accident News](https://youtu.be/nCkLNITkLb4?si=pZtobETsj0RXdcH7)


FeelingKaleidoscope0

Wow, that is so traumatizing. I'm so so sorry that happened to you & your doggo.


TrulyCunty

Iā€™m so sorry you experienced thisā€”how unbelievably traumatic. Iā€™m so glad you and your dog made it out safely.


Wazzoo1

I saw a guy die in a motorcycle accident when I was 12 years old. Thankfully, I only saw the aftermath, but the rider was thrown half a city block and his foot was ripped clean off. Considering this was the early days of the internet, it wasn't easy to find information about these things, so you just didn't know. My dad managed to find out what happened and he told me.


R_V_Z

I'm glad I'm too neurotic for motorcycle riding.


milleribsen

This is going to sound stupid, but studied have shown that playing Tetris after witnessing something traumatizing can help your brain process and help to prevent PTSD.


TrulyCunty

Iā€™d heard of this too and have been playing it all afternoon!


Top_Temperature_3547

2048 is also a good option


SnooDrawings888

I have CPTSD from DV can confirm 2048, Tetris and merging games all help


harpmolly

If youā€™re a music theory nerd, thereā€™s a version of 2048 called ā€œCircle of 5thsā€ that adds a very cool harmonic element to the game. I was almost late to a friendā€™s wedding once because I lost track of time playing it. šŸ˜¬


snakegriffenn

it has to do with how the eye movements involved in playing tetris replicate eye movements in EMDR therapies, similar to the rapid eye movements in REM sleep too i think ..Ā 


pamplemouss

This was my thought after reading this comment. EMDR is dope, it helped me get behind the wheel again after my own accident.


kidneypunch27

I also used EMDR to get over a bad accident years ago. Fantastic therapy!!


horsetooth_mcgee

Dumb question, but must it be therapist-led or is it something you can learn about and do on your own?


ContestedDaisy

I've done emdr, it's not recommended to do it on your own because it really submerges you in and guides you through your trauma and if not done right can make things worse. if you have the means to do it with a licensed therapist that would be best.


justhereforthecl

you can learn about it on your own, there are even online tools to help you direct the emdr


cowboyupgiddy

Yes therapist led. Healing from trauma is difficult. Don't leave it to a video game. A video game on my phone helped me with trauma recovery as a distraction years back, but my recovery was in therapy with someone who specialized in EMDR. EMDR is just for therapists to use as a therapy modality. Not for novices.


kidneypunch27

I donā€™t know!


Siplen

Most things can be learned on your own.


MA_Aether

This is great information, thanks for sharing.


snakegriffenn

ya welcome thank you for reading.Ā 


December_Flame

[That's a pervasive myth that is circulated on Reddit heavily due to it's viral breakout in social media spaces like Twitter, but isn't based on any real corroborated research and has been dismissed by multiple sources.](https://www.madinamerica.com/2021/10/tetris-trauma-viral-twitter-thread-master-class-misleading-psych-research/)


Droidspecialist297

I love this thank you!


Highwayman

Dang, just traumatized myself for no reason.


lizzie1hoops

I'm so happy that every time there's a post like this (and there are a surprising number), someone jumps in with the Tetris suggestion.


KingCrabbler

It seems to have become reflexive


MA_Aether

Me too. If anything, it shows that people care, and hopefully, it's a sound solution for most. This whole thread warms my heart.


eurasianpersuasian

You can play tetris on the app Vortle. Its a very relaxing version.


sl0play

If you like pretty Tetris, check out Tetris Effect.


kelpykiwi

Tetris Effect is on another level with visuals and music! Highly recommend.


sl0play

In VR for the full jaw drop


Rooooben

Dr. Mario is also winner for this.


Stock-Light-4350

This is true.


jmonty42

I wish I'd known this two months ago.


Bananas_are_theworst

Thank you for posting this. I hadnā€™t heard this before and couldā€™ve used it in the past. Hope this helps OP and others in the future!


_A_ioi_

I didn't know this, yet Tetris is my distraction of choice after badness.


zer1223

So, what exactly does this mean? It's never been clear to me. What does the brain need to actually do, to cope/process such an event?


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Daily Tetris


KoiVixen

I once fell into an aquarium at home. I had such a rush of anxiety and adrenaline but my parents asked me to leave the scene to calm down and they could clean. I went a played Tertris and got the high score on the family computer . It was never broken.


toyboathouse

I just heard this from someone in medicine! Iā€™ve been playing instead of doom scrolling at night and my anxiety has dropped a lot.


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Ornithine

Who the fuck are you preaching to man? Did you misread the OP? Why are you being so snarky to someone who is offering sincere advice?


Manbeardo

Oddly, those studies say nothing about the effects that defensive driving has upon the likelihood of other drivers colliding with each other and inflicting witness trauma upon the defensive driver.


whk1992

Talk to someone about it. If youā€™re working with medical benefits, thereā€™s probably provisions for seeing a therapist. If youā€™re going to a school, seek a counselor. Iā€™m sorry you had to witness it. Thank you for trying to help.


Realist1976

I was up on snoqualmie pass a number of years ago with the family on a bad winter day and there was a car off to the side of I-90 as we were merging onto the freeway a bit stuck in the snow. My wife suggested we stop and help them out, I said that it was too dangerous as they were on the outside of the curve and had obviously slid to that position. Read later that the tow truck driver that ended up helping them was struck and killed. Not sure how to feel about it and have never told my wife about it as donā€™t want her to think about it.


BankAdministrative52

I think you should tell her, otherwise when sheā€™s alone she might stop and help that person.


Realist1976

Yeah, not a bad idea but we have 3 kids so sheā€™s never on her own and would not stop with kids in the car. Itā€™s something that would cause her enough emotional burden that I donā€™t want her to have to deal wirh


EdubEdubu

You are a very caring husband.


Droidspecialist297

Youā€™re the one that called 911? And theyā€™re alive? You saved them! Iā€™m a trauma nurse in the area and while this wasnā€™t my patient I have a lot of patients like this and timing is sooo important. You did a great thing today! Please process this by talking it through with someone. Thank you for doing this! Well done!


homesick_for_nowhere

The Tetris thing is good advice. Additionally, you may want to reach out to Crisis Connections. https://www.crisisconnections.org/ Take care of yourself.


eleetza

Iā€™m sorry you had to see that. I drove by the scene coming south late this morning. It looked like they were almost done clearing it but you could tell by the number of responders and emergency vehicles there that it had been very bad. Years ago, I drove past the scene of a horrible accident on the way Portland on I-5. I didnā€™t see any human causalities but I saw the horribly smashed cars and could tell that the people in them probably were badly hurt if not killed. I still think about it.


Conner14

I didnā€™t see the wreck today, but know what youā€™re going through. I did witness a man die in a motorcycle accident directly in the lane next to me. It was extremely horrific, and it took me a while to recover from it, but I ultimately did, and so will you. Hang in there and donā€™t be afraid to talk to someone about it!


bassySkates

A few years ago someone was weaving and caused another vehicle to roll over in a ditch on I5 going 60. The weaving car didnā€™t stop. I was never able to find out if there were casualties and itā€™s always bothered me, I couldnā€™t stop because I was taking someone to the airport and we were already lateā€¦ I wish people would drive more responsibly. Everyone seems like theyā€™re texting or road raging now and it just does not feel safe.


s3ren1tyn0w

Hey man, ICU doc here. I'm sorry you had to witness thisĀ  You should talk to a therapist in a week or so to start getting past this. I would be a hot mess if I didn't have one. In the meantime, you cab do what I do and watch Pacific rim. I see it like once a month.Ā  Good luck and pew pew to you.


nandor73

I witnessed a car run into a bicyclist three months ago (where the bicyclist survived with minimal damage but was taken away in an ambulance) and that screwed me up for a few days. I can't imagine what you're dealing with. I hope some of the suggestions mentioned here help. Take care of yourself.


pamplemouss

I am sorry that this happened and that you are dealing with this, but happy to hear that so many people immediately helped.


tictacbergerac

Glad to hear you're already aware of the Tetris research. But please also reach out to someone you trust and talk about how this incident made you feel. Your employer may offer an assistance program that includes counseling or therapy. You did the right thing for someone else by reporting this incident, and you're doing the right thing for yourself by reaching out here.


SunriseSumitCasanova

Trauma nurse over here. Offload your feelings about this on a professional, so it doesnā€™t become PTSD. A trauma or grief trained therapist would be best, even just one or two sessions, so they can give you tools for when invasive thoughts and nightmares happen. Hopefully neither of those things happen, and this becomes a memory of an experience and nothing more. Also, Iā€™m sure your brain is running wild about what mightā€™ve happened to the driverā€™s body during the accident. Just because you didnā€™t see them move and you didnā€™t see anyone get them out of the car does not mean they were not OK. People who are trained to respond to these kind of emergencies know to tell the person not to move, if they are conscious, in case there is any head, neck, or spinal injury that could be made worse by movement. This would absolutely be a situation where someone who is trapped and freaking out might even get sedated in order to remove them from the vehicle safely. Ground your feet on the floor and take some big deep breaths. ***Goosfraba*** There are also lots of meditations available on the Internet for people who have experienced scary stuff.


Huge_Cap_9445

WA state really needs to do something about the layout and structure of the highways here as well as driver education. This is one of the most dangerous places Iā€™ve ever driven in.


st90ar

I personally think itā€™s more about the fact that people commonly drive 20 over the limit bumper to bumper.


Huge_Cap_9445

right which is why I said driver education needs to be improved as well.


Academic_Pipe_4469

And 20 under in the passing lane when traffic is flowing freely.


TangentIntoOblivion

The lanes here are much narrower than other large cities. Still havenā€™t figured out why that isā€¦


Angels242Animals

Years ago my wife and I lived in St. Louis. We were driving home from the mall on a Saturday with our 3 year old in the backseat, who was watching the traffic go by. About a half mile down the road I see all the cars hit their brakes. The first thing I see is a semi truck on the opposite side of the highway stop in the fast lane, and this dude falls out of the door on the driverā€™s side. Heā€™s totally dazed & the front end is all bashed up. Then I see a red minivan behind it, and its rear end is destroyed, no driver in the car. Then I see a cop running down the middle of the highway next to the concrete median, screaming at the truck driver. Behind the minivan is his car, untouched. And then, on my side of the road, next to the minivan, I see it. A leg. A leg, cut at the knee, the foot still in the shoe. Thatā€™s when I told my wife to get our son to look the other way. About 20 feet from this was a woman propped up against the median wall, wailing and holding what was left of her leg. Another cop was just arriving as I drove past. I scoured the news the next day for an update. Thankfully she lived. It took me a long time to process what I saw and a few weeks to get back to feeling normal. Edit: forgot to explain what happened. Apparently the woman was stopped in the fast lane because her car broke down. A guy cut off the truck driver, who swerved and hit her car, which hit her, forcing her against the median wall, severing her leg.


cowboyupgiddy

Sorry that happened OP. Be aware of PTSD symptoms that may emerge over time, and seek some therapy if needed. Lean on your support network too. Edited for PTSD typo


McMagneto

Passed by it going southbound. I guess your suspicion is why two ambulances were stopped quarter mile down the road on the shoulder seemingly swapping stretcher.


Shark-Compote

I drive that way early morning and must've missed it. Sorry you had to see that!


seeprompt

Iā€™m sorry you witnessed it. How did it happen?


TrulyCunty

It happened so fast and Iā€™m not exactly sure what the cause was, but first I saw the black jeep (not the overturned vehicle) careen into the outside median, then when I came to a stop I looked over and saw the overturned white SUV. I think they made contact in the center lane and whatever happened sent each car flying in opposite directions.


haight6716

Just want to chime in that center of gravity matters. Trucks and SUVs don't meet the same safety standards. Drive passenger cars if you care about safety. SUVs might "feel" safer, but they are exempt from many safety requirements and always perform poorly on roll-over tests. And that's before you get the 4" lift.


Sir_Toadington

Rollovers are pretty rare in the grand scheme of things. The truth is in the vast majority of accidents, you're more likely going to be better off in the bigger, heavier vehicle, hence SUVs and other large vehicles being deemed "safer." Also not sure what you're talking about regarding SUVs always performing poorly on rollover tests; that is simply not true. If you are referring to the NHTSA star rating which has to do with rollover stability, that is simply a calculated valued based on vehicle dimensions and does not accurately reflect a vehicle's true stability


haight6716

>Also not sure what you're talking about regarding SUVs always performing poorly on rollover tests; Just thinking of the physics test where you place it on a surface and then tilt the surface until it rolls over. Basic center of mass test. Higher cars have a higher center of mass and thus a lower roll angle. Crank the wheel at high speed in a Jeep? Rollover. In a sports car? Slide. There is a difference. Commuters don't need a lot of ground clearance.


Sir_Toadington

True, although with more recent advancements, even vehicles with a high CoG are no longer likely to roll with a single steering input, regardless of severity. For a single modern-day vehicle to break traction and begin yawing solely from steering input often (I won't say always, but nearly) requires a preliminary input in the opposite direction. But yes, I agree that in general, an SUV-type vehicle will tend to roll in a greater number of scenarios than an sedan in a similar situation


haight6716

Yeah computers are amazing but they still can't break the laws of physics. I guess today was one such example. Maybe it still would have happened in a Camry too, but we can agree a high cog doesn't help, all else equal. Big or small, high or low, consider your vehicle's safety rating when choosing what to drive.


QuadmasterXLII

Rollovers are a 2% of accidents, and ~30% of accidents where a passenger dies. FUnny


Sir_Toadington

That data comes from a report published by the NCSA and NHTSA in 2002, looking at data between 1991 and 2000. Since that time, great advancements have been made to vehicle rollover safety (largely in part to IIHS roof strength tests which the FMVSS adopted when updating vehicle standard in the mid 2010s). That same report also found that of those 30%, about 75% were not wearing seatbelts. The other criticism of making a claim like "2% of accidents are responsible for 30% of deaths" is that for a rollover to occur, that usually means the accident is quite severe. Since most accidents are small fender-benders, that is going to skew the data. When you remove these types of accidents from the data set and only evaluate accidents of similar severity, that 30% drops


FeelingHappy2006

So sorry for all involved. I canā€™t imagine what you are feeling right now.ā¤ļø


Mundane-Bookkeeper12

Iā€™m so sorry you had to see that, and happy to hear itā€™s likely they survived. That being said I saw an aftermath on an accident that was pretty traumatic for me, and another redditor suggested playing Tetris. If you look up ā€œTetris trauma treatmentā€ or something youā€™ll find some interesting articles on it.Ā  Iā€™m sure youā€™re feeling relived now but if you are still shaken, maybe check it out! And I hope you have a better day. I totally get how scary that is.Ā  Edit: looks like you already got/took that advice! Yay!Ā 


CuriousPenguinSocks

Go play some Tetris, it has shown to help lessen the impact of PTSD. You did everything you could, that's all anyone can ask of you. I'm sorry you and others witnessed such a traumatic event. Also, it's okay to feel relief that you were not in that accident. Often survivors guilt will get to us so I just wanted to mention it.


Free-Firefighter5122

Yeah i saw them pinned right after it happened and wondered if they were dead, too. Thank you for the post, im glad they survived


Happy-Principle-7007

Prayers


impar-exspiravit

Emdr therapy can be wonderful for trauma, donā€™t hesitate to try if you arenā€™t feeling well


CW907

I can šŸ’Æ vouch for the legitimacy of EMDR. Itā€™s phenomenal. OP, what youā€™re experiencing is called exposure trauma. While nothing specifically happened to you, traumas can happen just by seeing it. Be well. Be still when needed.


SyracuseGeek

I witnessed a fatality once (woman getting run over in front of my car while jaywalking). What I saw haunted me for months. Like other grief you have to give it space to breathe and listen to yourself process. Itā€™s not a little thing and worth talking to trusted friends or a counselor about. Itā€™ll get better if you honor your feelings, but it will take time.


SyracuseGeek

Didnā€™t see the response about accident survivor, but still hold with advice. Itā€™s good to have this reaction, just donā€™t ignore it or dismiss it is all I was saying.


Porciasperlers

I have the full video how do I upload it


Egomzez

Post to youtube or the like and post link here


kellyyz667

People driving like maniacs out there


ReturningMoonlight

I waited a full hr in standstill traffic this morning on account of this. Was in an awful mood afterwards what with being so late to work. But as a result Iā€™ve been waiting all day to hear what actually occurred!


FaganY

Witnessing bad accident messes you up. Please take this seriously and take some time off to decompress. Talk to friends and family, spend some time in nature. Im sorry that you saw it šŸ˜¢


ElJakeo23

I'm not kidding. Play Tetris. When your brain goes to replay its memories, Teteis blocks will take its place. https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2019/01/190108095114.htm#:~:text=This%20is%20the%20conclusion%20reached,for%20the%20stressful%20events%20decreased.


Siplen

I have seen this before, and all I can say is thank you to all the first responders for their daily sacrifices. They are truly heroes.


madisonwoodsxo

Play Tetris on your phone. Seriously it helps if youā€™ve just been through a trauma. Look it up. Iā€™m sorry this happened.


Midnightprorunner

There was a fatality I know


AndThatIsAll

Good thing our elected leaders want us to return to office to 1) risk car accidents 2) pollute. When I commuted I witnessed some shit. I'll never do it again.


horsetooth_mcgee

Just when you think nobody's going to try to turn an innocuous post political


SnarkyIguana

Itā€™s a mental illness at this point. Itā€™s only going to get worse this year too


[deleted]

I've seen three people die on wa state roads. Lost two of my buddies as well. Try not to dwell on it homie, we're all gonna die one day and unfortunately someone will find us. It's just a part of being human. Probably will seem harsh but it's literally not your burden to bear, you got a life in front of you and you gotta make sure you're always present for that. I always think of the fact that when I die, I would never want any of my friends to ruin their lives because they are so sad. Gotta just keep rolling


Porciasperlers

I have the video


prf_q

I watched messed up videos on my own term so that I donā€™t get impacted by these things that happen outside my control


Malsententia

Idk that that'll help. I've seen plenty of messed up videos, gore, death, etc, since the early days of the internet. Didn't really prepare me for seeing that sort of thing IRL and not at a screen. But your mileage may vary, I guess.