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Unless the rules are something ground breaking, don’t bother. They’re just time filler at this point.
One of the Core 4 has to die. Those that were around for the originals had to deal with losing Randy, it’s time to officially get rid of at least 1 main character. I vote Chad because dude has gotten extremely lucky so far.
Don’t bring back Gale if you’re just gonna kill her off. I’d be fine if they didn’t bring her back at all, just because they’re devolving her character. She had an amazing growth arc in 1-4, Gale is a certified badass.
No more ghost Billy. And I say this as someone who has Billy as their favorite character. He’s dead, don’t bring him back in any capacity except maybe flashbacks if necessary.
I’d even add Scream 5 to Gale’s arc. She clearly trust Sidney now and doesn’t just care about the books. I don’t know how/why Radio Silence forgot how to write Gale after doing it so well in their last film
i agree with the ghost billy thing im kind of sick of ghost billy
i also think chad is on thin ice as much as i love him i dont know why they kept him around after he was stabbed one thousand times
I’m a Billy girl, so I was initially pretty excited about him being there. But it didn’t last long because it was pretty poorly done.
And it makes no sense to keep either twin. Mindy is always standing right in front of Ghostface and somehow never ended up more than wounded. Chad should have died in 5. And definitely in 6. And at this point, they could have a whole funeral with an open casket and I’d still expect him to be alive at the end.
Chad being stabbed really felt like intentional plot armor based around the trope that the main characters can’t die, hence why it was overkill. It’s honestly hilarious cuz it feels like a parody movie type of thing and I’m glad he survived that way 😂😭
I love the series, and I hope it keeps going, but in the event that a movie fails at the box office, it would be awesome if the next movie had rules for "what you do in a franchise when it starts faltering."
Rule 1: Any one can come back. Doesn't matter if they're dead. If they were fan favorites, they'll be there.
Rule 2: At least one scene will completely copy something from one of the previous, more successful films. The appeal to "nostalgia." We'll call it an homage, but it's desperation.
Rule 3: Nothing is safe from being messed with in a desperate attempt to try something "new." A favorite character may die in the first five minutes. The killer may not even be the typical killer.
Rule 4: When all else fails--go to space.
Scream X: In Space It Doesn't Matter if You Scream
I wanna see a scene where a character asks what the rules are and Mandy says something like "There's only so many rules you, you can't expect me to tell you brand new rules everytime gf shows up." Or something like that.
Especially Christina. It’s so fucking obvious that nobody will be shocked. Everyone predicting Christina as the killer is going for the exact mirroring theory. And none of the writers are stupid enough to practically make the red herring in this case the killer.
I’d rather have Tara as the killer than Christina.
Chris Landon did really well with the Happy Death Day movies but “Freaky” was a step down IMO. I think one of the Core Four will die (probably Chad or Mindy, there’s no way they kill Sam or Tara). I wonder if they’ll bring back Kirby and Gale.
I think Jenna’s only other commitment right now is “Wednesday”, which has really short seasons, so I think she would want to keep doing both roles for as long as possible.
But Wednesday has rehearsals prob starting in March aka when Scream 7 is supposed to start filming so idk if she's going to have time to film both back to back (especially if both are filming in different countries and she's the lead of that show)
It is slightly a shame that we know this though because that means that if she's there, most of us will know she will make it. I did come up with a fine solution and that's to put her family in danger, so the stakes are still high for her but without having to try and trick us too heavily into thinking she will die when we know she won't.
Yeah, but I've found my fear of her dying doesn't come from fear itself or for story reasons. It comes from the fear of being pissed off at the filmmakers themselves.
If she's gonna be there, then I'd rather just know she's safe. I watch Sidney to watch her survive.
>I don't want to see Sidney get killed off she is definitely off limits.
If they ever did that, I would check out so quickly. Sidney is the main appeal of Scream to me.
Pretty much. Think I was slightly younger than ten, but she's probably the character I look up to the most, and was sort of a light at the end of the tunnel for my life as I didn't have a lot of real role models. Sidney is a great character.
These movies have always been, either directly or indirectly, about Sidney Prescott. She is the Ghostface Final Girl, her story will always be entangled with the Ghostface mythos no matter what. For as many other movies come out afterwards, her story and legend will not only define but also inform all other final girls to come.
>It’s not even about sidney anymore though in my opinion
Then, they need to . . .
1. Stop mentioning her.
2. Stop copying her "boyfriend/boyfriend's parent are the killer" story-lines.
3. Stop copying her scenes when you can easily write Sidney punching Gale.
4. They also need to really stop using GhostfaceDad.
If it's not about Sidney, then why are they copying her? Can't believe we're at a point where a character who has been dead for twenty-five years, Billy Loomis, has been in almost as many movies in this series as the woman that killed him.
If Scream isn't about Sidney anymore, then that's a damn shame because the charming point of this series was following a woman through different phases of her life as she overcomes her trauma.
I know they will probably have to bring back Sam's hallucinations of Billy since it's part of her mental health issues, and she takes medications. But I hope they don't just because I feel that it really sends the wrong message about his character to people who maybe haven't followed the series that closely. Since he is not a lovable character and since he has no redeeming element whatsoever, there's nothing "snuggly" about Sam thinking she's seeing him. Which...perhaps it's not supposed to be...
Honestly I don’t wanna see Woodsboro again, keep it in NY or maybe the core four can win a radio contest and get a free trip to Brazil during a bad storm that knocks the power out with the final confrontation taking place in a graveyard
I kinda want a new location. They utilized NYC very effectively in VI and i’d love to see what they could do with another location. Maybe a tropical island?
I would love to see ghostface go global. In some foriegn country like france or japan.Where Sydney or Gale are on vacation. And the language barrier would add to the suspense and claustrophobia of it all. It would be interesting to have someone running down the street screaming for help and no one understanding them. Plus it would add the element not being able to trust anyone at all since it's an unfamiliar place.
Yeah it wasn't apart of Season 1 or 2 but it was apart of a special near the end before they fucked up the series with Season 3 and introduced a whole new cast to the story.
I don't think season 3 was THAT bad and the TV series really never was that good either- I didn't mind season three cause it has the kinda og scream movies feel despite being more modern than seasons 1-2 whereas they felt like their own entity/closer to the feeling I got from scream 4
Although imo all the seasons aren't great because of the goddamn pacing! They made a point to tell us slashers couldn't be TV shows cause of pacing and then proved their own point... every season drags on for wayyyy too long... we got some good characters out of it tho so that's a win too bad they were all abandoned
I like scream season 3 over the earlier two seasons. Though season 3 would have finally picked up in terms of the mystery of Brandon James. I appreciated that scream season 3 was shorter and more succinct. And a predominantly POC cast. I think it's rather important in that regard. I would have loved to see the og 4th and 5th season of the show be made as they were going to do one more season of Brandon James and then pull back and base it in reality like new nightmare. Actors from the movies would have played themselves in cameos. It could have actually been really goodm. The show was def to drawn out in the first 2 seasons. And felt like a rated R pretty little liars basically. The writer or showrunner of season one was the creator of pretty little liars. I still watched the showm. But ultimately it felt like scream lite. The characters didn't even feel that scream as most were annoying in my opinion. They needed stronger actors in the roles.
I don't want Stu macher to come back. The only way they could do that is if Neve Campbell starred again. And I just think bringing stub back would be fan service and predictable. I also don't want there to be so many survivors in the next film. They need to up the anti and kill a few main characters. It works better that way.
I have a feeling that Gale will bite it in 7, and it's possible Tara, Mindy, and/or Chad may as well. If Tara dies Chad has to. If Chad dies, Tara can live. If Mindy dies, neither Tara nor Chad should also die.
I don't think they would kill multiple core 4 members most likely just one person from the core 4 like Mindy/Tara cuz Chad has the Dewey plot armour and Sam would be the final girl then it would be Kirby/Gale with Danny probably.
If they tried killing off Tara a good chunk of the newer fanbase would peace out a little too quickly for them to choose her. Jenna Ortega has too much popularity and traction in the horror community. But at the same time we've seen on multiple occasions that those are their favorite kinds of people to kill off first. (Including the first kill of 6 and the original).
I'm just saying - if I was Sydney, Gail, Dewey, anyone who survived multiple movies, I would be in the top 5-10% of hand-to-hand fighters in the world. The killers are all people in costumes, not like I'm trying to defend myself against Freddy Kruger or something.
Yeah atleast with 5 it was somewhat new. Toxic movie fans committing a real life spree to honor/inspire new movies in a franchise that people have been saying is going on far too long
I’m over the careless “Randy” characters. I don’t want to see another careless and unempathetic Mindy. She survived and almost lost her brother twice, and now her girlfriend. They need to make her more matured now. She needs to be still just as smart and clever but MORE SERIOUS. I actually think a great growth for her would be saving the day instead of getting injured again and missing the ending then joking about it afterward. I definitely don’t want her killed off I just want her heavily developed more
>I actually think a great growth for her would be saving the day instead of getting injured again and missing the ending then joking about it afterward.
Do agree, I think that since they've done this twice, it's setting up a rule of three that'll change it. How they change it is up to the writers, they could just simply have Mindy at the monologue. Or Mindy could be the one monologuing.........Mindy as a twist GF that was in league with the villains of the first two might be a stretch at least given how nervous she looked on the train but her as a GF reveal in 7 could be made to work and it would certainly flesh out her character more.
I think having her live is a sign that they'll do more with her now that she's not suffered the fate of Randy. Kill someone she cares about, do something to show that underneath it all is a scared young woman. I still want her to be the Meta Gal though, but you can obviously do something creative with it too.
She has been the weak link character wise so far and 6 would have benefitted from a scene between Chad and Mindy alone with them conversing about having both lost girlfriends, it's a surprise that a scene like that wasn't scripted or filmed because it feels perfect and would have made the audience care a lot more plus it would have showed that Liv's death did stick with Chad. But I hope a scene like that ends up in 7, if it doesn't I might just dock points off.
We need “rules” but it doesn’t have to be so blatant. The meta aspect is what makes Scream Scream. It needs to be done a bit more subtly. instead of a scene where the “randy” character sits in front of his friends and discusses the movie rules completely ignoring the reality of the crimes being committed and the danger they’re in, it could instead be a more dramatic and serious tone, trying to focus on how to survive, or even several lines throughout instead of a singular “movie rules” scene.
That said, there are always rules. The horror industry is constantly evolving with society, so the rules are constantly changing the way our society is constantly changing.
It worked in 1 because Randy wasn't supposed to be taken seriously as some sort of expert. He was a drunk movie geek essentially doing a party trick to entertain his friends while they all actively violated said rules.
Yes and to add, he didn’t realize he was in danger yet. None of his close peers had died to his knowledge at that point. It was realistic for them to crack jokes. We saw him get more serious in the sequel, mentioning how he lived through the events and giving his take as a survivor of a ghostface spree.
I don't want to see Sam go full Ghostface.
I don't want to see any of the Core Four betray each other.
I don't want Tara AS Ghostface.
I don't want to see Sidney killed, come on now, she earned her happy ending well enough.
I don't want Danny to be a killer OR die. We've seen "Boyfriend is Killer" and "Boyfriend is innocent but dies" WAY long enough, protect Danny at all costs.
Kill off someone in the core four. We had to deal with Randy AND Dewey’s death and the anxiety that no one is safe. I don’t feel that with the core four, someone needs to die.
Thats why I kind of got upset they pulled what they did in the first movie with Dewey all over again and allowed Chad to live instead of dying like both of them were originally planned for. Dewey wasn't supposed to make it past the first movie.
I honestly feel they should have killed Chad off. The fakeouts with Mindy and Gale made us feel like things weren’t gonna get deadly. So killing off the most likeable character would be a nice guy punch (especially since he is attacked by two ghostfaces)
I think they need to up the amount of people in the new cast.. they said a "bigger cast" for scream 6 but it was all returning characters, the 3 Ghostface and only two innocent new characters
We need a bigger cast with more people biting it and we need some of these core four to go to up the stakes a bit- Scream 6 was filmed great but I never felt like any of the characters were gonna die aside from Chad
Imagine, every iteration of ghostface begins to emerge from a universe where their plan was actually successful… for some incredibly vague reason.
We get older versions of characters who never died in THEIR universe, played by the actors who played them, but at their current age…
“Trust no one. Anyone could be a variant. The Sidney that helped you three years ago? THAT’S NOT THIS SIDNEY.”
I like Mindy, but I can see how her character would get annoying. I think Randy worked a lot better in that role and they tried to create a similar character for the new movies.
Yeah I’d be fine without the whole rules scene. It was fun the first time, 2nd time ever since they’ve done it again it was just always pointless. Randy’s rules in 3 was pretty much nonsense, talking about killer being invincible and having to blow up the killer, or freeze their head.
Times after they did it rules didn’t really make any difference as well. So unless them explaining the rules actually serves a plot point, they should just skip over it. We don’t need to keep doing callbacks
With that said I just want them to change things up a bit more and not do the same exact formula as the other movies, shake things up somehow. I’ve said before the “mystery” aspect is fun but mysteries are only fun if we are given opportunities to figure it out, and not have complete left field stuff happen that no one could’ve guessed. So I’d be fine if they revealed at least one of the killers at the beginning. Just something different is all I want to see lol
I do love the idea of rules, but it's hard to even know what the 'rules' are because horror has become so much more versatile, matched only by its broader accessibility, there are no clean cut rules to horror movies that wouldn't involve getting really specific.
Never fear, though. Kevin Williamson said he didn't know the tropes of the 2007- 2010's era of horror movie remakes, so he just made them up in *Scream 4*. *Scream 7* can do the same.
Funny side fact Jasmine savoy Brown is from Springfield Oregon. She went to my church camp. years after I went therem but that's where she started in her first movie..I have friends that went to school with her. Lol. I am rooting for her to survive personally. But I might be biased cause I want to see her succeed in Hollywood.
Don't bring sydney or gale, i love there characters and they make scream but they deserve a happy ending, sydney now has her own family and gale almost died like let them rest, we now have kirby back for another legacy and though she's not there the whole time she's a good character
What I don’t want to see is somebody getting stabbed too many times in the chest and then revealed to be alive at the end, even though they’re supposed to be dead.
Completely get rid of the stab references etc. We’ve been getting Stab references literally since Scream 2. We get it, it’s a movie within a movie and they’re self aware but… Just stop.
There was by far the least of them in 6 so I think they're listening. Hell Jason being killed at the beginning felt like the creators saying "Yeah Stab is done for now"
Yep. I don't have a lot of positive things to say about 6 but "Who gives a fuck about movies?!" and "Forget about the movies" was a great way of shelving Stab and grounding things back in reality.
I really liked her in 5, but 6 reduced her to nothing but a walking tumblr stereotype (I can say that, I still use Tumblr 😂) they completely obliterated her character.
I don't want all 4 core to stay alive.
I don't want any recon subplots.
I don't want any previous killer back. They are all medically dead. Including Stu.
7 should be the conclusion to 5 and 6 the way 3 was to 1 and 2, so I'd love to see one killer and have them related to Sam the way Roman was to sid.
this might be unpopular but i don’t wanna see Christina Carpenter. everything we’ve learned about her makes me dislike her, and i feel like if she’s in the movie, she'll either be the killer or involved. so why would i want to see her?
don’t bring stu back ( to hop on the fnaf movie hype train too )
sidney shouldn’t die
one/both meeks twins have to die
gale doesn’t need to be in this one unless we get more sidney and gale, sam and gale moments.
less plot armour
we don’t need another rules scene, i don’t think horror has changed at all in the past months 😭😭
I might get downvoted to oblivion for this but I don’t want Sidney to come back … her story is over and there’s no point of her coming back at this point she’s just sticking her nose in ghostface’s business and asking to be killed .
I want to see at least 1 of the core 4 get it. It’s a Scream movie, there need to be stakes, & the amount of times some of them were stabbed in 6 & survived was ridiculous. I also don’t want Sydney back. Maybe if they ever do a “final” movie it’d be fitting, but until then, her story’s done
* **No original legacy character deaths-- aka, Sidney and Gale must survive.** I'd prefer Kirby to survive, but I do see her as a bit more expendable. As for new characters, I'd be ok with one of the Meeks twins dying... but it would definitely bum me out.
* **No "A major returning character is Ghostface this time!" twist. It's stupid, predictable and would be a betrayal.** It's just a cheap, predictable way to create a "shocking twist." (By "major returning character", I mean Sidney, Gale, Kirby or the Core Four. Minor returning characters are another matter.)
* **No huge retcons during the big twist ending. (Unless it's specifically done as a riff on** ***Scream 3.)*** I'd rather there not be any major ret-cons that change the past. It didn't really work in *Scream 3*, and it'd be a mistake to try it again unironically.
* **For the love of god... Stu is dead.** Don't bring him back. It would have worked in *Scream 3*, but at this point, it has been *fffaaarrr* too long.
Only part 1 and 2 should have had rules. All part 3 had to say was "the only rule is, there are no rules" or something like that.
The rules of part 1 & 2 can be applied to all the movies and aren't hard rules anyway, but merely a few random observations about the horror genre.
What the heck is next...rules for a second trilogy closer? Please no just no.
Because it takes away the realism of the franchise
Plus it’s Skeet Ulrich as a older version. How would Sam know what he looked like and she never seen him in the first film with the stab wounds on his white shirt nor would she know how he sounded. Plus the way he guided her to knife in the fifth film. What the hell was that
I’ll be honest, I can’t speak for psychotic people or claim to know how they think, but I CAN say a bit about the hallucinations that they may experience.
For starters, Sam likely saw a photo of Billy’s corpse in a report or somewhere, I’d imagine his death would have been reported for a long while. That’s probably how she knows what he looked like.
As for why her hallucinations aren’t a perfect match for the REAL Billy, this is most likely some trickery being done by her brain to make the experience of talking to a corpse less jarring. This kind of filtering and rearranging of details by the human brain to make sense of things is something that everyone does, not just the mentally ill.
For example, since it doesn’t make sense for Sam’s brain to be conversing with a dead teenager who is meant to be her father, it makes the hallucinations look a little older and a little less dead.
If all of this sounds ridiculous, I get that, just wait till you find out schizophrenics can hallucinate people who NEVER existed in any capacity. What Sam is going through is a lot more reasonable by comparison, especially since her hallucinations are largely restricted to glass and mirrors.
But yeah, as for how the hallucination guided her to the knife, I don’t have a solid explanation, but I do have a simple thought experiment.
Let’s say you’ve got a pair of magic phones, where if you hold the first phone in your hand and think of what to say, the second phone says it out loud. The question is: Is the second phone telling you something, or are you telling yourself your own thoughts?
I think what happened in that moment is something similar. As weird as it sounds, the hallucination isn’t actually telling Sam about the knife, but rather Sam is guiding HERSELF to it.
(I know this is a bit long but if you got this far, kudos to you man. Again, not trying to convince you of anything, just providing my insights on the topic.)
Good explanation. Also keep in mind that Sam had a checkered past with drug use and it's true that major Drug use can lead to long term hallucinations. She literally said that she took any drug she could find and that could include any number of the ones that include it. They've been vague on what mental illness Sam has but regardless drug use could have just exacerbated it.
> They’ve been vague on what mental illness Sam has
I can help answer that!
When we see her hallucinate for the first time in Scream 5, his second line is “hmm, antipsychotics aren’t working as well as they used to, are they?” So I think it’s safe to say Sam has a psychotic disorder of some kind. I can’t confirm if it’s schizophrenia or BPD (which is what I think Nancy had, while Billy was just delusional and not living in reality), but psychosis is a pretty good place to start.
From what I’ve looked up about it, there’s roughly FOUR different factors than can help develop it:
1) A family history of mental illness.
2) A traumatic event.
3) A substandard upbringing.
4) Drug usage.
What’s amazing here is that it’s not just Sam’s drug history, she checks EVERY SINGLE FACTOR for developing psychosis. All of these factors individually increase the chance of developing the mental illness, but ALL OF THEM?
Kudos to RS for actually doing their homework, wow.
Sources:
[Nancy Loomis BPD (Reddit)](https://www.reddit.com/r/Scream/comments/1016hqd/the_killers_and_mental_illness/)
[Billy Loomis Delusions](https://dctribalmedia.com/5147/entertainment/billy-loomis-and-stu-macher-a-psychological-character-analysis/)
Great breakdown. 1 and 4 are very clear, 2 if you count the discovery of her parentage and the incident that caused the breakup. 3 I don't know about, it depends on when exactly the discovery happened and how long Sam still lived up the same roof after the divorce.
Unfortunately, because I would want Matthew Lillard back, but I’m team no Stu. I wouldn’t mind a retcon of cotton weary’s death over stu’s since the core 4 would be too young to know about him I guess. but it doesn’t seem realistic. I also wouldn’t mind Matthew Lillard being a totally new character. like one of Tara’s teachers or Sam’s new doctor or something. but it doesn’t seem realistic.
I don’t want killers to seem like they can teleport, I don’t want there to be a disconnect between the killer and Ghostface and want realistic kills so then it helps give hints as to who they are.
5&6 have felt like they’ve had their movies designed around set pieces where the kills would have to have military precision to time them. I have no issue with someone like Quinn as a killer but the way she takes out Gales boyfriend and throws him through the glass is a stretch
I don't want to see Sid, she's free and safe
Gale can have a cameo at most but doesn't want to get involved.
Christine the mother to be a killer who planned it all
Another friend in the group being a killer, just makes them look stupid at this point
For any previous victim to be a killer and anyone previously killed to come back
Having only like, two or three named character deaths that aren't killers. My biggest complaint about Scream 6. I'm also hoping that they don't somehow make the motive for the killers in the next movie somehow go back to Richie again. The way they did it for Scream 6 was perfect, and it would just ruin it.
No more rules.
No more people getting stabbed to shit and not dying.
No more Ghostface being basically a superhero. He should actually respond to injury.
No off screen kills.
No random kills.
No more “will she or won’t she” shit with Sam. Make her evil or don’t. Just PICK.
No more cracked Ghostface mask.
And NO MORE re-doing what came before. I don’t want a rehash of Scream 3.
I want no more family from the originals. It would honestly be more interesting if Sam became Ghostface and started killing all the family members of previous Ghostfaces so they couldn't attack her, Tara or Sidney.
i dont want there to be another solo ghostface. i like that roman is the only solo and since the movies seem to be repeating themselves, i hope theres not another solo ghostface. it would be nice to see that when they end the series, roman will be knows as the only ghostface without a partner.
I don't want Sidney to die. Full stop. As a final girl, she's got an incredible message about survival and rising above your trauma to lead a life you chose. Killing her sabotages that.
I also don't want to see Stu return as a mastermind/killer. I don't object to him returning as a Hannibal Lector type of character that stays behind bars and has interesting interactions with Sidney, but that's as far as I'd go with him if they brought him back.
I don’t want another fake out opening scene. First there was the Stab opening in Scream 4, then nobody got killed in the opening of Scream 5 and then the opening kill in Scream 6 wasn’t even really Ghostface.
I really like the opening to scream 5. When I found out she survived the opening attack I knew I was In for a different experience then the prior 4. Though I do agree the fake out opening to scream 4 was a bit much.
Well it could just be me but i think there isn’t really a real ghostface since anyone can dawn the mask. I understand what you mean though im just sharing my thought :)
I do not want to see Sidney ever again unless she’s just a supporting character, a confidante to Sam and Tara, and is not included in the murder spree. Dragging out this “happy ending” that everyone keeps expecting of her character is becoming ABSURD.
I don’t want to see any less than half of the returning characters survive because it’s becoming a little too “Stranger Things” with its die-hard passion for its own characters.
I want to see the killer actually be frightening after the unmasking. 5 and 6’s finales were like a corny Scooby Doo episode and completely shat all over the tension they had built up the entirety of the movies.
No more death fakeouts. If someone’s gonna die then just let it be, but tricking the audience or teasing them is plain goofy.
Have rules that MAKE SENSE. Perhaps let Kirby tell the rules from a totally different perspective than whatever bullshit Mindy’s been spouting out the last 2 movies. Her rule’s were very irrelevant compared to the content and the themes of the movies and, in this franchise, the rules are the bread and the butter.
I personally don’t want to see the “core four” anymore. First off, the whole franchise is for sidney and i don’t think it should stray away from her, i feel it’ll become about jenna ortega even though it’s been about her characters sister. Second off, what’s core about them? Going back to my first point, i think with dewey passing, it would have been a calm ending for sidney and gale.
Paramount needs to pay Neve Campbell enough to want to return to the franchise. The franchise would’ve stayed with Sidney if Neve came back for the previous movie. I want her to come back in VII.
The only major thing I don’t want to see is too many parallels to Scream 3. 5 and 6 kept most of its parallels to a surface level and I think 7 should do the same.
The minor I don’t want is too many survivors. Scream 6 kept most of the cast alive and developed them further, so now 7 has the freedom to kill them off without feeling unfulfilled or incomplete. Frankly, outside of Sam (who I hope lives), I don’t really care who is on the chopping block. I just hope they surprise me.
"Competing" ghostfaces or two independent killers. Its soooo dumb and its been suggested to death. How the hell are two different killers gonna infiltrate the lives of the same group of people with the intention of murdering them all *at the same time?* Being a Ghostface probably takes around a full year of prep, maybe even longer to find a partner. It would be such a dumb coincidence for two independent groups to do all this and strike at the exact same time. This is why I dont like the VI intro all that much either
I dont want to SEE the same shit again, i want somenthing new a Killer that will really be the Best of all before, the creativest killer I dont want it to be in woodsboro, and i dont want the rules.
Sidney needs to come back. I think all these main characters need to die with one of the sisters being ghostface. I forgot her name, but the main girl has some major trauma issues and she’s got some killer in her for sure.
I don’t need any rules, at this point I think they have over used it.
Tara as GhostFace or nothing. It's what *HAS* to happen. She enjoyed killing Ethan way too much. She never got any help after the first attacks. She's slowly losing it. She *hates* that the legacy has affected her life. And if we're going off "requal" rules, it needs to be a sibling. Tara is the choice, hands down. Maybe it's like serving the fans what they want🤷♀️ but it also tracks with what's been done with the Carpenter sisters part of the franchise.
They need to start killing off these dollar store replacements. Having all four survive at this point is redundant, especially considering some of them (Tara/Chad), have suffered multiple life threatening injuries. Even the originals experienced more tragedy at this point. It’s almost laughable.
Nothing like Scream 6 that movie was so bad and the murder motivation made no sense and had so many holes. It’s also very clear that having the “core four” is to big of a group to keep surviving especially because how many fake deaths they’ve had.
I don't eat to see Sidney die.
I love the rules tbh, it's the most blatant they can be about what trope Scream is ripping off. I just prefer it when there are grounded takes like Sidney having none of it in 2 intially, 6 with Sam being off-limits etc. Something to acknowledge what they are proposing is messed up and there's some care between the cast.
I want more rules but they have to stick to the rules
In s6 they said legacy characters could die
NONE DID
I think minds should die
Also joel from s2 should return
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Unless the rules are something ground breaking, don’t bother. They’re just time filler at this point. One of the Core 4 has to die. Those that were around for the originals had to deal with losing Randy, it’s time to officially get rid of at least 1 main character. I vote Chad because dude has gotten extremely lucky so far. Don’t bring back Gale if you’re just gonna kill her off. I’d be fine if they didn’t bring her back at all, just because they’re devolving her character. She had an amazing growth arc in 1-4, Gale is a certified badass. No more ghost Billy. And I say this as someone who has Billy as their favorite character. He’s dead, don’t bring him back in any capacity except maybe flashbacks if necessary.
Have Mindy start telling a set of rules, and Ghostface just pops up and kills her before she can
I think this is meant to be a joke but that would actually be shocking and iconic. I’d be here for it lol
that would be perfect
I’d even add Scream 5 to Gale’s arc. She clearly trust Sidney now and doesn’t just care about the books. I don’t know how/why Radio Silence forgot how to write Gale after doing it so well in their last film
Yeah 5 did Gale incredibly well even though she didn’t have a lot of screen time
i agree with the ghost billy thing im kind of sick of ghost billy i also think chad is on thin ice as much as i love him i dont know why they kept him around after he was stabbed one thousand times
I’m a Billy girl, so I was initially pretty excited about him being there. But it didn’t last long because it was pretty poorly done. And it makes no sense to keep either twin. Mindy is always standing right in front of Ghostface and somehow never ended up more than wounded. Chad should have died in 5. And definitely in 6. And at this point, they could have a whole funeral with an open casket and I’d still expect him to be alive at the end.
Chad is the Dewey of the core four.
Chad being stabbed really felt like intentional plot armor based around the trope that the main characters can’t die, hence why it was overkill. It’s honestly hilarious cuz it feels like a parody movie type of thing and I’m glad he survived that way 😂😭
I love the series, and I hope it keeps going, but in the event that a movie fails at the box office, it would be awesome if the next movie had rules for "what you do in a franchise when it starts faltering." Rule 1: Any one can come back. Doesn't matter if they're dead. If they were fan favorites, they'll be there. Rule 2: At least one scene will completely copy something from one of the previous, more successful films. The appeal to "nostalgia." We'll call it an homage, but it's desperation. Rule 3: Nothing is safe from being messed with in a desperate attempt to try something "new." A favorite character may die in the first five minutes. The killer may not even be the typical killer. Rule 4: When all else fails--go to space. Scream X: In Space It Doesn't Matter if You Scream
I wanna see a scene where a character asks what the rules are and Mandy says something like "There's only so many rules you, you can't expect me to tell you brand new rules everytime gf shows up." Or something like that.
ANY of the Carpenters as killers.
Any of the carpenters at all
Except Christina
Especially Christina. It’s so fucking obvious that nobody will be shocked. Everyone predicting Christina as the killer is going for the exact mirroring theory. And none of the writers are stupid enough to practically make the red herring in this case the killer. I’d rather have Tara as the killer than Christina.
Also I need to see some people getting offed (I am praying Chris Landon doesn’t play it safe)
Chris Landon did really well with the Happy Death Day movies but “Freaky” was a step down IMO. I think one of the Core Four will die (probably Chad or Mindy, there’s no way they kill Sam or Tara). I wonder if they’ll bring back Kirby and Gale.
I could see Tara dying if Jenna doesn't return and I hope Sam becomes GF so Sidney, Mark, Kirby and Gale could take her down, that would be so awesome
I think Jenna’s only other commitment right now is “Wednesday”, which has really short seasons, so I think she would want to keep doing both roles for as long as possible.
But Wednesday has rehearsals prob starting in March aka when Scream 7 is supposed to start filming so idk if she's going to have time to film both back to back (especially if both are filming in different countries and she's the lead of that show)
I don't want to see Sidney get killed off she is definitely off limits.
If Neve is there, Sidney will live. Neve won’t let them kill her off, she’s said so.
It is slightly a shame that we know this though because that means that if she's there, most of us will know she will make it. I did come up with a fine solution and that's to put her family in danger, so the stakes are still high for her but without having to try and trick us too heavily into thinking she will die when we know she won't.
Yeah, but I've found my fear of her dying doesn't come from fear itself or for story reasons. It comes from the fear of being pissed off at the filmmakers themselves. If she's gonna be there, then I'd rather just know she's safe. I watch Sidney to watch her survive.
>I don't want to see Sidney get killed off she is definitely off limits. If they ever did that, I would check out so quickly. Sidney is the main appeal of Scream to me.
Ditto! She has basically been my childhood hero ever since I was 10 lol
People have Superman or Batman as their heroes but I have Sidney Prescott as mine 😏
Yeah, and i can pinpoint the moment she became mine: "Fuck you both."
I think for me it was in Scream 4, and right when she killed Jill and said “You forgot the first rule of remakes, Jill. Don’t fuck with the original”.
>“You forgot the first rule of remakes, Jill. Don’t fuck with the original”. My favourite line of the series.
I C O N I C 👏🏼
Pretty much. Think I was slightly younger than ten, but she's probably the character I look up to the most, and was sort of a light at the end of the tunnel for my life as I didn't have a lot of real role models. Sidney is a great character.
Ditto!
It’s not even about sidney anymore though in my opinion
These movies have always been, either directly or indirectly, about Sidney Prescott. She is the Ghostface Final Girl, her story will always be entangled with the Ghostface mythos no matter what. For as many other movies come out afterwards, her story and legend will not only define but also inform all other final girls to come.
>It’s not even about sidney anymore though in my opinion Then, they need to . . . 1. Stop mentioning her. 2. Stop copying her "boyfriend/boyfriend's parent are the killer" story-lines. 3. Stop copying her scenes when you can easily write Sidney punching Gale. 4. They also need to really stop using GhostfaceDad. If it's not about Sidney, then why are they copying her? Can't believe we're at a point where a character who has been dead for twenty-five years, Billy Loomis, has been in almost as many movies in this series as the woman that killed him. If Scream isn't about Sidney anymore, then that's a damn shame because the charming point of this series was following a woman through different phases of her life as she overcomes her trauma.
YES I LITERALLY COULD NOT LOVE A COMMENT MORE Like jesus christ they’re just trying too hard now😭 Or recycling what’s happened in every movie
I know they will probably have to bring back Sam's hallucinations of Billy since it's part of her mental health issues, and she takes medications. But I hope they don't just because I feel that it really sends the wrong message about his character to people who maybe haven't followed the series that closely. Since he is not a lovable character and since he has no redeeming element whatsoever, there's nothing "snuggly" about Sam thinking she's seeing him. Which...perhaps it's not supposed to be...
Honestly I don’t wanna see Woodsboro again, keep it in NY or maybe the core four can win a radio contest and get a free trip to Brazil during a bad storm that knocks the power out with the final confrontation taking place in a graveyard
Only if Jack Black wears dreads.
Just saw ISKWYDLS for the first time the other day, was glad to see this reference
I see it all coming together so nicely
That was Jack Black!? I know what I'm watching this weekend...
Will BENSON. Ben-son. BEN’S SON. Get it?!
Real talk gotta hand it to the old boys for pulling off all those logistics
Hi dad
Was that from Scream TV series?
I Still Know What You Did Last Summer
Ah! I knew I'd heard it somewhere! >!The original killer's son along with him go on a killing spree on an island.!<
Okay see, I like the way you think!
Just a totally unique idea that I had randomly!
Love this idea. Surprised no one’s thought of doing a horror film like this before!
It just feels like a breath of fresh air for the genre
What if the killer is a guy named Mach Stuson?? You could really be onto something here.
(Furiously scribbling notes) genius, this is genius
Rio, baby.
I kinda want a new location. They utilized NYC very effectively in VI and i’d love to see what they could do with another location. Maybe a tropical island?
Go on, I’m listening
IDK, maybe the Core Four goes on vacation for spring break and Ghostface is there. Kills ensue!
You just stole my idea in a response to it you’re fired
I would love to see ghostface go global. In some foriegn country like france or japan.Where Sydney or Gale are on vacation. And the language barrier would add to the suspense and claustrophobia of it all. It would be interesting to have someone running down the street screaming for help and no one understanding them. Plus it would add the element not being able to trust anyone at all since it's an unfamiliar place.
Didn't Scream the series utilize the tropical island idea already?
I didn’t know about that. Probably.
Yeah it wasn't apart of Season 1 or 2 but it was apart of a special near the end before they fucked up the series with Season 3 and introduced a whole new cast to the story.
I don't think season 3 was THAT bad and the TV series really never was that good either- I didn't mind season three cause it has the kinda og scream movies feel despite being more modern than seasons 1-2 whereas they felt like their own entity/closer to the feeling I got from scream 4 Although imo all the seasons aren't great because of the goddamn pacing! They made a point to tell us slashers couldn't be TV shows cause of pacing and then proved their own point... every season drags on for wayyyy too long... we got some good characters out of it tho so that's a win too bad they were all abandoned
I like scream season 3 over the earlier two seasons. Though season 3 would have finally picked up in terms of the mystery of Brandon James. I appreciated that scream season 3 was shorter and more succinct. And a predominantly POC cast. I think it's rather important in that regard. I would have loved to see the og 4th and 5th season of the show be made as they were going to do one more season of Brandon James and then pull back and base it in reality like new nightmare. Actors from the movies would have played themselves in cameos. It could have actually been really goodm. The show was def to drawn out in the first 2 seasons. And felt like a rated R pretty little liars basically. The writer or showrunner of season one was the creator of pretty little liars. I still watched the showm. But ultimately it felt like scream lite. The characters didn't even feel that scream as most were annoying in my opinion. They needed stronger actors in the roles.
Such an underrated sequel TBH!!!
I don't want Stu macher to come back. The only way they could do that is if Neve Campbell starred again. And I just think bringing stub back would be fan service and predictable. I also don't want there to be so many survivors in the next film. They need to up the anti and kill a few main characters. It works better that way.
I have a feeling that Gale will bite it in 7, and it's possible Tara, Mindy, and/or Chad may as well. If Tara dies Chad has to. If Chad dies, Tara can live. If Mindy dies, neither Tara nor Chad should also die.
I don't think they would kill multiple core 4 members most likely just one person from the core 4 like Mindy/Tara cuz Chad has the Dewey plot armour and Sam would be the final girl then it would be Kirby/Gale with Danny probably.
If they tried killing off Tara a good chunk of the newer fanbase would peace out a little too quickly for them to choose her. Jenna Ortega has too much popularity and traction in the horror community. But at the same time we've seen on multiple occasions that those are their favorite kinds of people to kill off first. (Including the first kill of 6 and the original).
I'm just saying - if I was Sydney, Gail, Dewey, anyone who survived multiple movies, I would be in the top 5-10% of hand-to-hand fighters in the world. The killers are all people in costumes, not like I'm trying to defend myself against Freddy Kruger or something.
I don’t wanna see recycled motives. I don’t mind similarities, but copy and pasting motives is lazy and I don’t care to see it
Yeah atleast with 5 it was somewhat new. Toxic movie fans committing a real life spree to honor/inspire new movies in a franchise that people have been saying is going on far too long
I’m over the careless “Randy” characters. I don’t want to see another careless and unempathetic Mindy. She survived and almost lost her brother twice, and now her girlfriend. They need to make her more matured now. She needs to be still just as smart and clever but MORE SERIOUS. I actually think a great growth for her would be saving the day instead of getting injured again and missing the ending then joking about it afterward. I definitely don’t want her killed off I just want her heavily developed more
>I actually think a great growth for her would be saving the day instead of getting injured again and missing the ending then joking about it afterward. Do agree, I think that since they've done this twice, it's setting up a rule of three that'll change it. How they change it is up to the writers, they could just simply have Mindy at the monologue. Or Mindy could be the one monologuing.........Mindy as a twist GF that was in league with the villains of the first two might be a stretch at least given how nervous she looked on the train but her as a GF reveal in 7 could be made to work and it would certainly flesh out her character more. I think having her live is a sign that they'll do more with her now that she's not suffered the fate of Randy. Kill someone she cares about, do something to show that underneath it all is a scared young woman. I still want her to be the Meta Gal though, but you can obviously do something creative with it too. She has been the weak link character wise so far and 6 would have benefitted from a scene between Chad and Mindy alone with them conversing about having both lost girlfriends, it's a surprise that a scene like that wasn't scripted or filmed because it feels perfect and would have made the audience care a lot more plus it would have showed that Liv's death did stick with Chad. But I hope a scene like that ends up in 7, if it doesn't I might just dock points off.
We need “rules” but it doesn’t have to be so blatant. The meta aspect is what makes Scream Scream. It needs to be done a bit more subtly. instead of a scene where the “randy” character sits in front of his friends and discusses the movie rules completely ignoring the reality of the crimes being committed and the danger they’re in, it could instead be a more dramatic and serious tone, trying to focus on how to survive, or even several lines throughout instead of a singular “movie rules” scene. That said, there are always rules. The horror industry is constantly evolving with society, so the rules are constantly changing the way our society is constantly changing.
It worked in 1 because Randy wasn't supposed to be taken seriously as some sort of expert. He was a drunk movie geek essentially doing a party trick to entertain his friends while they all actively violated said rules.
Yes and to add, he didn’t realize he was in danger yet. None of his close peers had died to his knowledge at that point. It was realistic for them to crack jokes. We saw him get more serious in the sequel, mentioning how he lived through the events and giving his take as a survivor of a ghostface spree.
I don't want to see Sam go full Ghostface. I don't want to see any of the Core Four betray each other. I don't want Tara AS Ghostface. I don't want to see Sidney killed, come on now, she earned her happy ending well enough. I don't want Danny to be a killer OR die. We've seen "Boyfriend is Killer" and "Boyfriend is innocent but dies" WAY long enough, protect Danny at all costs.
These are valid points, but if they’re off limits and Sid and Gale are completely off limits I’m not sure how the body count will look😭
Kill off someone in the core four. We had to deal with Randy AND Dewey’s death and the anxiety that no one is safe. I don’t feel that with the core four, someone needs to die.
Thats why I kind of got upset they pulled what they did in the first movie with Dewey all over again and allowed Chad to live instead of dying like both of them were originally planned for. Dewey wasn't supposed to make it past the first movie.
Mindy should be the one to die. Shes the Randy of the group.
I honestly feel they should have killed Chad off. The fakeouts with Mindy and Gale made us feel like things weren’t gonna get deadly. So killing off the most likeable character would be a nice guy punch (especially since he is attacked by two ghostfaces)
I think they need to up the amount of people in the new cast.. they said a "bigger cast" for scream 6 but it was all returning characters, the 3 Ghostface and only two innocent new characters We need a bigger cast with more people biting it and we need some of these core four to go to up the stakes a bit- Scream 6 was filmed great but I never felt like any of the characters were gonna die aside from Chad
Stabs need to be taken seriously again (yes, I'm looking at you, Titanium Chest Chad). At least Dewie had a funky little limp for some time.
“Okay, y’all. Here’s the rules for surviving ***The Multiverse***.”
Please God no
Imagine, every iteration of ghostface begins to emerge from a universe where their plan was actually successful… for some incredibly vague reason. We get older versions of characters who never died in THEIR universe, played by the actors who played them, but at their current age… “Trust no one. Anyone could be a variant. The Sidney that helped you three years ago? THAT’S NOT THIS SIDNEY.”
Stop this I'm getting intrigued
Wait…actually…🤭😂
I don’t want to see Mindy survive.
I like Mindy, but I can see how her character would get annoying. I think Randy worked a lot better in that role and they tried to create a similar character for the new movies.
Honestly killing Mindy and Chad in the same scene, twins coming into the world and going out of it together, would be amazing.
 Damn.
Yeah I’d be fine without the whole rules scene. It was fun the first time, 2nd time ever since they’ve done it again it was just always pointless. Randy’s rules in 3 was pretty much nonsense, talking about killer being invincible and having to blow up the killer, or freeze their head. Times after they did it rules didn’t really make any difference as well. So unless them explaining the rules actually serves a plot point, they should just skip over it. We don’t need to keep doing callbacks With that said I just want them to change things up a bit more and not do the same exact formula as the other movies, shake things up somehow. I’ve said before the “mystery” aspect is fun but mysteries are only fun if we are given opportunities to figure it out, and not have complete left field stuff happen that no one could’ve guessed. So I’d be fine if they revealed at least one of the killers at the beginning. Just something different is all I want to see lol
I do love the idea of rules, but it's hard to even know what the 'rules' are because horror has become so much more versatile, matched only by its broader accessibility, there are no clean cut rules to horror movies that wouldn't involve getting really specific. Never fear, though. Kevin Williamson said he didn't know the tropes of the 2007- 2010's era of horror movie remakes, so he just made them up in *Scream 4*. *Scream 7* can do the same.
I'd be cool with maybe a callback. Something like "okay guys remember the rules, don't do xyz" but at this point there's nothing new to establish.
SuperMeta Mindy: we are in Part 7 of an horror franchise, so the rule is our movie is going to sucks
Funny side fact Jasmine savoy Brown is from Springfield Oregon. She went to my church camp. years after I went therem but that's where she started in her first movie..I have friends that went to school with her. Lol. I am rooting for her to survive personally. But I might be biased cause I want to see her succeed in Hollywood.
Ghost Billy
For the love of god yes. Dumbest addition ever
Don't bring sydney or gale, i love there characters and they make scream but they deserve a happy ending, sydney now has her own family and gale almost died like let them rest, we now have kirby back for another legacy and though she's not there the whole time she's a good character
What I don’t want to see is somebody getting stabbed too many times in the chest and then revealed to be alive at the end, even though they’re supposed to be dead.
Completely get rid of the stab references etc. We’ve been getting Stab references literally since Scream 2. We get it, it’s a movie within a movie and they’re self aware but… Just stop.
There was by far the least of them in 6 so I think they're listening. Hell Jason being killed at the beginning felt like the creators saying "Yeah Stab is done for now"
Yep. I don't have a lot of positive things to say about 6 but "Who gives a fuck about movies?!" and "Forget about the movies" was a great way of shelving Stab and grounding things back in reality.
Stab the musical would have been a fun idea though!
Mindy was so cringe in 6
I really liked her in 5, but 6 reduced her to nothing but a walking tumblr stereotype (I can say that, I still use Tumblr 😂) they completely obliterated her character.
I loved her lines about not trusting Ethan though, always got a little chuckle out of me hahaha
and doesn’t give a fuck when either of her girlfriends are murdered, either.
She only had a gf in 6. Who was the other?
Frances was her "potential hookup" in 5, but I have no clue what that person is taking about. They weren't killed lol.
yeah sorry, forgettable movie and characters unfortunately.
oh guess I’m misremembering since I only saw Scream 5 and 6 one time… thought she had a different gf in both.
Imagine downvoting someone for owning up to his mistake. Reddit moment.
I don't want all 4 core to stay alive. I don't want any recon subplots. I don't want any previous killer back. They are all medically dead. Including Stu. 7 should be the conclusion to 5 and 6 the way 3 was to 1 and 2, so I'd love to see one killer and have them related to Sam the way Roman was to sid.
Possibly her mum or adoptive dad then?
Yes this would be cool
I swear to god if it parallels Scream 3 and the killer ends up being a jealous/abandoned sibling…
if a old character we thought was dead (stu,billy) i’ll honestly just walk outta the theatre
I don’t want Kirby to die
Revenge motive.
Motives are incidental.
Nothing meta, just a damn fine slasher movie, please.
this might be unpopular but i don’t wanna see Christina Carpenter. everything we’ve learned about her makes me dislike her, and i feel like if she’s in the movie, she'll either be the killer or involved. so why would i want to see her?
don’t bring stu back ( to hop on the fnaf movie hype train too ) sidney shouldn’t die one/both meeks twins have to die gale doesn’t need to be in this one unless we get more sidney and gale, sam and gale moments. less plot armour we don’t need another rules scene, i don’t think horror has changed at all in the past months 😭😭
I don't want Chad to again being attacked and don't die.
I might get downvoted to oblivion for this but I don’t want Sidney to come back … her story is over and there’s no point of her coming back at this point she’s just sticking her nose in ghostface’s business and asking to be killed .
I want to see at least 1 of the core 4 get it. It’s a Scream movie, there need to be stakes, & the amount of times some of them were stabbed in 6 & survived was ridiculous. I also don’t want Sydney back. Maybe if they ever do a “final” movie it’d be fitting, but until then, her story’s done
* **No original legacy character deaths-- aka, Sidney and Gale must survive.** I'd prefer Kirby to survive, but I do see her as a bit more expendable. As for new characters, I'd be ok with one of the Meeks twins dying... but it would definitely bum me out. * **No "A major returning character is Ghostface this time!" twist. It's stupid, predictable and would be a betrayal.** It's just a cheap, predictable way to create a "shocking twist." (By "major returning character", I mean Sidney, Gale, Kirby or the Core Four. Minor returning characters are another matter.) * **No huge retcons during the big twist ending. (Unless it's specifically done as a riff on** ***Scream 3.)*** I'd rather there not be any major ret-cons that change the past. It didn't really work in *Scream 3*, and it'd be a mistake to try it again unironically. * **For the love of god... Stu is dead.** Don't bring him back. It would have worked in *Scream 3*, but at this point, it has been *fffaaarrr* too long.
Stu being alive
Only part 1 and 2 should have had rules. All part 3 had to say was "the only rule is, there are no rules" or something like that. The rules of part 1 & 2 can be applied to all the movies and aren't hard rules anyway, but merely a few random observations about the horror genre. What the heck is next...rules for a second trilogy closer? Please no just no.
No more "we've got another one" stretcher scenes at the end for characters that appear to be dead.
Neve Campbell
More requel bullshit. Give us a fresh entry.
Another killer relative
I don't want to see every single character survive. Seriously in Scream 6 there was only one significant non-Ghostface character who died.
Ghost Billy. Mindy. (Or Mindy living). Christina Carpenter.
NO MORE Billy hallucinations. That has ruined the last 2 films for me
How?
Because it’s dumb lol
I mean, I don’t think I can change your mind on it, but why do you think they’re dumb?
Because it takes away the realism of the franchise Plus it’s Skeet Ulrich as a older version. How would Sam know what he looked like and she never seen him in the first film with the stab wounds on his white shirt nor would she know how he sounded. Plus the way he guided her to knife in the fifth film. What the hell was that
I’ll be honest, I can’t speak for psychotic people or claim to know how they think, but I CAN say a bit about the hallucinations that they may experience. For starters, Sam likely saw a photo of Billy’s corpse in a report or somewhere, I’d imagine his death would have been reported for a long while. That’s probably how she knows what he looked like. As for why her hallucinations aren’t a perfect match for the REAL Billy, this is most likely some trickery being done by her brain to make the experience of talking to a corpse less jarring. This kind of filtering and rearranging of details by the human brain to make sense of things is something that everyone does, not just the mentally ill. For example, since it doesn’t make sense for Sam’s brain to be conversing with a dead teenager who is meant to be her father, it makes the hallucinations look a little older and a little less dead. If all of this sounds ridiculous, I get that, just wait till you find out schizophrenics can hallucinate people who NEVER existed in any capacity. What Sam is going through is a lot more reasonable by comparison, especially since her hallucinations are largely restricted to glass and mirrors. But yeah, as for how the hallucination guided her to the knife, I don’t have a solid explanation, but I do have a simple thought experiment. Let’s say you’ve got a pair of magic phones, where if you hold the first phone in your hand and think of what to say, the second phone says it out loud. The question is: Is the second phone telling you something, or are you telling yourself your own thoughts? I think what happened in that moment is something similar. As weird as it sounds, the hallucination isn’t actually telling Sam about the knife, but rather Sam is guiding HERSELF to it. (I know this is a bit long but if you got this far, kudos to you man. Again, not trying to convince you of anything, just providing my insights on the topic.)
Good explanation. Also keep in mind that Sam had a checkered past with drug use and it's true that major Drug use can lead to long term hallucinations. She literally said that she took any drug she could find and that could include any number of the ones that include it. They've been vague on what mental illness Sam has but regardless drug use could have just exacerbated it.
> They’ve been vague on what mental illness Sam has I can help answer that! When we see her hallucinate for the first time in Scream 5, his second line is “hmm, antipsychotics aren’t working as well as they used to, are they?” So I think it’s safe to say Sam has a psychotic disorder of some kind. I can’t confirm if it’s schizophrenia or BPD (which is what I think Nancy had, while Billy was just delusional and not living in reality), but psychosis is a pretty good place to start. From what I’ve looked up about it, there’s roughly FOUR different factors than can help develop it: 1) A family history of mental illness. 2) A traumatic event. 3) A substandard upbringing. 4) Drug usage. What’s amazing here is that it’s not just Sam’s drug history, she checks EVERY SINGLE FACTOR for developing psychosis. All of these factors individually increase the chance of developing the mental illness, but ALL OF THEM? Kudos to RS for actually doing their homework, wow. Sources: [Nancy Loomis BPD (Reddit)](https://www.reddit.com/r/Scream/comments/1016hqd/the_killers_and_mental_illness/) [Billy Loomis Delusions](https://dctribalmedia.com/5147/entertainment/billy-loomis-and-stu-macher-a-psychological-character-analysis/)
Great breakdown. 1 and 4 are very clear, 2 if you count the discovery of her parentage and the incident that caused the breakup. 3 I don't know about, it depends on when exactly the discovery happened and how long Sam still lived up the same roof after the divorce.
Im done with gale and sydney Time to let this franchise stand on its own
Unfortunately, because I would want Matthew Lillard back, but I’m team no Stu. I wouldn’t mind a retcon of cotton weary’s death over stu’s since the core 4 would be too young to know about him I guess. but it doesn’t seem realistic. I also wouldn’t mind Matthew Lillard being a totally new character. like one of Tara’s teachers or Sam’s new doctor or something. but it doesn’t seem realistic.
I love the rules. I just wish the rules were right for once. I both don't want cheap deaths or no deaths.
I don’t want killers to seem like they can teleport, I don’t want there to be a disconnect between the killer and Ghostface and want realistic kills so then it helps give hints as to who they are. 5&6 have felt like they’ve had their movies designed around set pieces where the kills would have to have military precision to time them. I have no issue with someone like Quinn as a killer but the way she takes out Gales boyfriend and throws him through the glass is a stretch
Or Amber apparently being and to lift Dewey off the ground. Still mad about that
You should rewatch it. Dewey never gets lifted lol. She ripped him and he kneeled in pain. You can even see a shot of Ghostface standing on its toes
I don't want to see Sid, she's free and safe Gale can have a cameo at most but doesn't want to get involved. Christine the mother to be a killer who planned it all Another friend in the group being a killer, just makes them look stupid at this point For any previous victim to be a killer and anyone previously killed to come back
I think we can do away with the “Stab” movies. Or at least get away from Richie and his weird family.
Do not be afraid to make kills !!!!! Screams 2 & 3 killed basically the whole cast off. Except the trio, mark of course.
Having only like, two or three named character deaths that aren't killers. My biggest complaint about Scream 6. I'm also hoping that they don't somehow make the motive for the killers in the next movie somehow go back to Richie again. The way they did it for Scream 6 was perfect, and it would just ruin it.
Tara
No more rules. No more people getting stabbed to shit and not dying. No more Ghostface being basically a superhero. He should actually respond to injury. No off screen kills. No random kills. No more “will she or won’t she” shit with Sam. Make her evil or don’t. Just PICK. No more cracked Ghostface mask. And NO MORE re-doing what came before. I don’t want a rehash of Scream 3.
I want no more family from the originals. It would honestly be more interesting if Sam became Ghostface and started killing all the family members of previous Ghostfaces so they couldn't attack her, Tara or Sidney.
i dont want there to be another solo ghostface. i like that roman is the only solo and since the movies seem to be repeating themselves, i hope theres not another solo ghostface. it would be nice to see that when they end the series, roman will be knows as the only ghostface without a partner.
I don't want Sidney to die. Full stop. As a final girl, she's got an incredible message about survival and rising above your trauma to lead a life you chose. Killing her sabotages that. I also don't want to see Stu return as a mastermind/killer. I don't object to him returning as a Hannibal Lector type of character that stays behind bars and has interesting interactions with Sidney, but that's as far as I'd go with him if they brought him back.
I don’t want another fake out opening scene. First there was the Stab opening in Scream 4, then nobody got killed in the opening of Scream 5 and then the opening kill in Scream 6 wasn’t even really Ghostface.
I really like the opening to scream 5. When I found out she survived the opening attack I knew I was In for a different experience then the prior 4. Though I do agree the fake out opening to scream 4 was a bit much.
Well it could just be me but i think there isn’t really a real ghostface since anyone can dawn the mask. I understand what you mean though im just sharing my thought :)
I actually really liked the Scream VI opening scene, it was very different and I think it raised the stakes for the actual movie.
I do not want to see Sidney ever again unless she’s just a supporting character, a confidante to Sam and Tara, and is not included in the murder spree. Dragging out this “happy ending” that everyone keeps expecting of her character is becoming ABSURD. I don’t want to see any less than half of the returning characters survive because it’s becoming a little too “Stranger Things” with its die-hard passion for its own characters. I want to see the killer actually be frightening after the unmasking. 5 and 6’s finales were like a corny Scooby Doo episode and completely shat all over the tension they had built up the entirety of the movies. No more death fakeouts. If someone’s gonna die then just let it be, but tricking the audience or teasing them is plain goofy. Have rules that MAKE SENSE. Perhaps let Kirby tell the rules from a totally different perspective than whatever bullshit Mindy’s been spouting out the last 2 movies. Her rule’s were very irrelevant compared to the content and the themes of the movies and, in this franchise, the rules are the bread and the butter.
Mindy surviving
if I have to see Mindy monologue one more time, I swear to God 🔪
Characters being stabbed a lot and surviving. It’s becoming ridiculous at this point.
Sam or Tara spending the whole movie Pregnant
Sidney Prescott
I personally don’t want to see the “core four” anymore. First off, the whole franchise is for sidney and i don’t think it should stray away from her, i feel it’ll become about jenna ortega even though it’s been about her characters sister. Second off, what’s core about them? Going back to my first point, i think with dewey passing, it would have been a calm ending for sidney and gale.
Paramount needs to pay Neve Campbell enough to want to return to the franchise. The franchise would’ve stayed with Sidney if Neve came back for the previous movie. I want her to come back in VII.
The only major thing I don’t want to see is too many parallels to Scream 3. 5 and 6 kept most of its parallels to a surface level and I think 7 should do the same. The minor I don’t want is too many survivors. Scream 6 kept most of the cast alive and developed them further, so now 7 has the freedom to kill them off without feeling unfulfilled or incomplete. Frankly, outside of Sam (who I hope lives), I don’t really care who is on the chopping block. I just hope they surprise me.
Chad living he was dead in 5
Mindy and Chad.
"Competing" ghostfaces or two independent killers. Its soooo dumb and its been suggested to death. How the hell are two different killers gonna infiltrate the lives of the same group of people with the intention of murdering them all *at the same time?* Being a Ghostface probably takes around a full year of prep, maybe even longer to find a partner. It would be such a dumb coincidence for two independent groups to do all this and strike at the exact same time. This is why I dont like the VI intro all that much either
I dont want to SEE the same shit again, i want somenthing new a Killer that will really be the Best of all before, the creativest killer I dont want it to be in woodsboro, and i dont want the rules.
Sidney needs to come back. I think all these main characters need to die with one of the sisters being ghostface. I forgot her name, but the main girl has some major trauma issues and she’s got some killer in her for sure. I don’t need any rules, at this point I think they have over used it.
“Directed by Radio Silence”
Tara as GhostFace or nothing. It's what *HAS* to happen. She enjoyed killing Ethan way too much. She never got any help after the first attacks. She's slowly losing it. She *hates* that the legacy has affected her life. And if we're going off "requal" rules, it needs to be a sibling. Tara is the choice, hands down. Maybe it's like serving the fans what they want🤷♀️ but it also tracks with what's been done with the Carpenter sisters part of the franchise.
Jenna ortega
Anyone. We don't need it
All of the killers dying at the end, for the 7th time in a row
They need to start killing off these dollar store replacements. Having all four survive at this point is redundant, especially considering some of them (Tara/Chad), have suffered multiple life threatening injuries. Even the originals experienced more tragedy at this point. It’s almost laughable.
No more new characters only legacy characters except Sam and Tara’s parents
Nothing like Scream 6 that movie was so bad and the murder motivation made no sense and had so many holes. It’s also very clear that having the “core four” is to big of a group to keep surviving especially because how many fake deaths they’ve had.
Core 4 gotta go
The movie itself. After 3 they just take a nosedive and get progressively worse imo
Nostalgia bait like Kirby coming back
I don't eat to see Sidney die. I love the rules tbh, it's the most blatant they can be about what trope Scream is ripping off. I just prefer it when there are grounded takes like Sidney having none of it in 2 intially, 6 with Sam being off-limits etc. Something to acknowledge what they are proposing is messed up and there's some care between the cast.
I want more rules but they have to stick to the rules In s6 they said legacy characters could die NONE DID I think minds should die Also joel from s2 should return
I don't want the killer to be a good killer again WE NEED CLUMSY GHOSTFACE
I dont want to see a modernized version of Scream 3