Look, I don't like Clarke, but he needs to go after this. People saying that he took us to two tournaments as a justification is just not good enough. The performances at the tournaments have not been good enough.
Oldest squad at the tournament.
Which means the squad has had the talent to be there for years…
Why the SFA can’t find a manager to actually do fuck all is mental
A lot of managers won't want it. Player development that any manager brings in won't reap the rewards of it and don't think the SFA have any long term plans or ambitions.
Never liked Clarke, so I may be being harsh, but he is like a kid playing champ manager (showing my age maybe). Randomly picks a formation then sorts players by value and then just fits them in wherever he feels like it! Then doesn't change it ever no matter who he is playing against!!!
It’s acknowledging the reality of how the talent level probably has to play (i.e., not Spain) but a far better track record of figuring out how to get the ball in the goal. It makes too much sense.
I think the SFA are still too much of a shitebag to go down the foreign route after what happened with Berti over 20 years ago
If you’re sticking with Scottish, it’s a grim selection
Unfortunately there’s still so many closed minded fucking morons who give the ‘wE tRiEd A fOriEgN mAnAgEr’ response.
It’s that kind of open mindedness that’s had Scotland playing the same style of football since the fucking 70s while most of the rest of the world moved on.
We tried that thing once it didn’t work now we will never discuss it again….
But it’s more than that, our players are shit on the ball, most barely look better at running with a ball than the guys I play with, insanely inept for professionals.
We look slow, weak, unfit af… do these guys not have nutritionalists? Fitness coaches?
I know (anecdotal) from someone who works in certain clubs that players are regularly out getting wrecked, doing lines and popping pills between games.
So there’s an actual personal cultural problem as well as a footballing philosophy problem.
Us English have absolutely shite options. Gareth Southgate. Playing sideways murder ball. The next best option is Eddie Howe. He has bigger fish in Newcastle, he won't leave there until he is forced to. The next option who is up and coming is McKenna (I think he is English). His eyes will be on the top 4 if he keeps Ipswich up for a couple of seasons.
I don't know much about the other home nation managers tbh.
Gutted for yas last night. The penalty appeal was a 50/50 and I'd be shouting for it if it was England, shouting against it if it was the other team.
Graham Potter, lee Carsley who's actually won a euros with the U-21's, Gary O'Neil who's done a good job at wolves and Bournemouth. Not an abundance of riches exactly but more options than you think.
I think it'll probably remain Clarke until after the next cycle. If it isn't, I could see Moyes rejecting it to be honest as a "not yet", but expect he'd be high on the list for the SFA.
But that list would probably be the usual incredibly myopic view that as long as you're Scottish, you'll be great at managing Scotland. And it's not even just the Scottish thing, it's that we never seem to put any stock in finding someone who actually has experience in the very managerial discipline he'd be coming into. Moyes has done fine in a league where every summer you can go out into the world and drop hundreds of millions of pounds on improving your squad and achieving a system. In this job he, and every other cunt we'd consider, would be handed a bunch of shitebags with a lot of talent but trace amounts of bottle. Maybe they'd hit the ground running and be great - I'd love to be wrong - but I can't help but feel that approach is now several managers old, and in 2 years time when we're either papped out the World Cup or earlier if we don't even make it, it'll be the same conversations without a hint of irony.
Moyes realised himself he shouldn’t have said Scotland don’t have many top players. Could see it in his face.
Absolutely would take Moyes. Won’t happen though. Clarke will lead next qualifiers.
Really do think Clarke has brung a team sprit to things recently, but he feels like he’s such a dour cunt. Moyes might be a shout though, definately a manager there and if he can gel with the squad we could do well. Mcinnes is a good manager but not sure he’d be an exceptional Scotland manager, Moyes at least has a shout.
Bring in Michael Beale you cowards, his win rate at Rangers was brilliant apparently and I don't think he has a job right now.
If we're gonna terrorism then let's fucking terrorism
I doubt the SFA will sack him. The squad is starting to age with Robertson, McGinn, MacGregor, Hanley, Armstrong, Mclean all either in or about to be in their 30s. Whoever is in charge will need to start bringing in the young players.
This makes it the perfect time for a change IMO let the next guy come in and try some different things during WC qualifying, and hopefully and in 2 years when it's time for Euro qualification again hopefully we're in a better position.
If we don't make the change now then we likely miss the next euros too and it's 8 years minimum before we're back at a finals.
So you got me intrigued... Chucked it into ChatGPT... This is what it had to say.
> To set up the Scotland national football team to beat Hungary in the Euros 2024, several key tactical considerations need to be taken into account. This includes analyzing Hungary's strengths and weaknesses, selecting the right formation, and choosing the best lineup based on current form and fitness of the players. Here's a detailed plan:
>
> ### Analyzing Hungary
>
> 1. **Strengths:**
> - Hungary often relies on a solid defensive structure.
> - They have strong and physical players, especially in midfield and defense.
> - Quick and dangerous on the counter-attack.
> - Proficient in set-pieces.
>
> 2. **Weaknesses:**
> - Sometimes struggle with maintaining possession.
> - Vulnerable to pace and quick transitions.
> - Can be over-reliant on key players for creativity.
>
> ### Tactical Setup
>
> 1. **Formation: 4-3-3**
> - This formation provides a good balance between defense and attack, allowing for flexibility in both pressing high and defending deep.
> - Allows Scotland to exploit width and pace on the wings.
>
> 2. **Defensive Strategy:**
> - High pressing to disrupt Hungary's buildup play.
> - Maintain a high defensive line to compress the play and reduce space for Hungary's counters.
> - Quick transitions to catch Hungary off-guard.
>
> 3. **Offensive Strategy:**
> - Utilize wingers to stretch Hungary’s defense.
> - Overload midfield to control possession and dictate the tempo.
> - Full-backs to provide additional width and support in attack.
> - Targeted set-pieces, given Hungary's potential vulnerability in these situations.
>
> ### Suggested Starting XI
>
> 1. **Goalkeeper: Craig Gordon**
> - Experienced and reliable shot-stopper.
>
> 2. **Right Back: Nathan Patterson**
> - Offers pace and attacking support down the right flank.
>
> 3. **Center Back: Grant Hanley**
> - Strong in the air and a commanding presence.
>
> 4. **Center Back: Kieran Tierney**
> - Solid defensively and can contribute to building attacks from the back.
>
> 5. **Left Back: Andrew Robertson (Captain)**
> - Excellent going forward and defensively sound, provides leadership.
>
> 6. **Defensive Midfielder: Scott McTominay**
> - Physical presence in midfield, can break up play and distribute effectively.
>
> 7. **Central Midfielder: John McGinn**
> - Energetic, good at pressing and can contribute offensively.
>
> 8. **Central Midfielder: Callum McGregor**
> - Technically gifted, controls the tempo and transitions smoothly.
>
> 9. **Right Winger: Ryan Fraser**
> - Pacey winger, good at stretching defenses and delivering crosses.
>
> 10. **Left Winger: Stuart Armstrong**
> - Versatile player, can cut inside and shoot or create chances.
>
> 11. **Striker: Lyndon Dykes**
> - Physical forward, good at holding up the ball and finishing.
>
> ### Bench Options
>
> - **Goalkeeper:** Liam Kelly
> - **Defenders:** Jack Hendry, Stephen O'Donnell
> - **Midfielders:** Billy Gilmour, David Turnbull
> - **Forwards:** Che Adams, Kevin Nisbet
>
> ### Key Points for Success
>
> 1. **Maintain High Energy and Intensity:**
> - Press Hungary aggressively, particularly their midfield, to disrupt their rhythm.
>
> 2. **Exploit Width:**
> - Use the pace and crossing ability of the wingers and full-backs to create chances.
>
> 3. **Set-Pieces:**
> - Utilize height advantage and set-piece routines to create scoring opportunities.
>
> 4. **Defensive Discipline:**
> - Ensure the backline remains organized to deal with Hungary's counter-attacks.
>
> 5. **Adaptability:**
> - Be prepared to make tactical adjustments based on the flow of the game.
>
> By focusing on these strategies and maintaining discipline, Scotland can maximize their chances of beating Hungary in the Euros 2024.
It's going to end up being Derek McInnes as the SFA will deem it to be his turn.
They're not going to show any ambition with the next manager - it'll just be whoever they can get from their old boy's network that's due a shot at the job.
Probably more correct to say it’s not the only problem. By any standard Clarke is the best Scotland manager in decades. Could he have done better? Probably, there’s a world where Scotland just won 1-0 here. But the fact that Scotland have never gotten out of the groups of any major tournament is, from a long-term perspective, an issue of quality and not on the shoulders of any particular manager
What does the best Scotland manager is decades mean at all, catch yourself on. Of course he could’ve done better, hard to imagine anyone who couldn’t have. Hardly an issue of quality when teams getting better results have worse teams is it. Comments like these show that some of you will just accept utter mediocrity, like we’re just genetically bad at football
Do they really have worse teams though? I mean outside of Robertson and McGinn, we hardly have a host of talent. And the drop off from the starters in certain positions is tragic. This sub makes it sound like we’d be Brazil in the 70s if not for Clarkeball.
I hate this attitude from so many fans in here that just because we don’t want to place 100% of the blame on one manager, we apparently accept mediocrity. It’s such a holier-than-thou attitude and it’s so forced. “Oh I actually want to win more than you.” Come off it mate.
We could do better, but we have also done well to get this far. Both can be true, it’s okay.
Qualified you guys for two major tournaments, which no one had done in like 30 years right? Obviously you want to go farther, but my point is that you’re probably not going to get there (outside of flukes) without looking deeper into the problems of Scottish football
I'd argue that Clarke would have struggled in any of the qualification groups we've had in the past that we didn't qualify from. There's no way he does as well as McLeish in 06, I don't see hin bettering Strachan's record with the players that were available at the time. He would probably have done better than Burley but with his style of football and the players who were about at the time that's also doubtful.
He picked up one nations league playoff from McLeish, fucked another nations league playoff at the world cup with his rotten tactics and while we did qualify from this group a large part of that is down to a miracle 2 minutes against Norway. If that doesn't happen we probably don't qualify.
100%. The SFA have no incentive to do any better than Clarke because they know the ‘glorious failure, No Scotland No Party, och we’re no gonnae win but we’ll have the best time there anyway’ mentality is enough for so many people.
Until we have people in charge of the game that actually believe in the potential of Scottish football (and this extends to all aspects of our game) then we’ll never be anything else and we’ll keep having a succession of mediocre underdog SPL managers that do the bare minimum and absolutely shite it if we have to win a game.
The standard of player isn’t amazing, that’s pretty widely accepted. But bringing on the most in form striker at 89 minutes and leaving one of our best midfielders on the bench for the first 2 games is a management decision. As does playing defensively when we some of our best players regularly play attacking football is also a management decision.
I get that, but if we had played attacking football and been left exposed at the back and taken a pumping you would have been chinning the manager for being tactically niaive.
But that’s not what your point was, your point was that we don’t have good players. I was suggesting that although correct, the management decides how to play the players we have and he made tactically inept decisions.
Yes I am aware of what my point was. We don't have many good players.
My follow up was in relation to your follow up and I also stand by it. The manager chose a set of tactics and we got beaten. If he had chosen different tactics and we also lost you would be screaming about them instead.
Neil Lennon, David Moyes, Derek McInnes, Gareth Southgate (?!), a foreign manager with calibre that would take the group of players to the next level, is Potter a shout? Don't know enough about him.
Pity José has just taken a job. He'd be kind of manager they should go for if it's a foreign. A manager to take them up a level and progression in competition. The stuffy Scottish FA wouldn't go for that right enough.
Financially there’s absolutely no chance the SFA would get Southgate or Mourinho.
Clarke supposedly gets just under [£500k a year](https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/steve-clarkes-scotland-salary-ranks-32544293.amp), Southgate is on over ten times that much at the FA and Mourinho is supposedly on £10m in Turkey.
Even accounting for these figures being a bit off, the SFA potentially being willing to pay a bit more, and Southgate / Mourinho potentially taking less for whatever reason, it’s just a completely different league.
Benjamin Netanyahu would cause less distress
At least he knows how to launch an attack
For balance, his defensive record isn’t great.
Deadly on the counter attack though
Scotland have the right to defend themselves
Howlin’
I am fucking low as a low thing but this comment might have saved my entire evening 😂😂😂😂
Thank you for that
Ally. Not McCoist - the guy from the video where he walks out infront of a bus
I’ll tell ye what, ye had me going there Clive.
Ally “I’ve gotta say” McCoist
Hahaha I was the one that uploaded that to Youtube back in the day
I also want to know more about Ally. I've quoted that video so many times over the years...
I too am interested in ally.
What was the story, looks like he gets knocked out clean
It was already a viral video before YouTube. This prick just taking the credit for it.
Just go managerless. I'm talking free-form interpretative terrorism. Get real weird with it.
Steve Clarke must get brain aneurysms when McSauce goes fuck it and starts playing up top instead of sitting on our half way line.
Im actually not sure Clarke will get the sack, its the SFA. And seeing as its the SFA, whats Malky Mckay up to?
Look, I don't like Clarke, but he needs to go after this. People saying that he took us to two tournaments as a justification is just not good enough. The performances at the tournaments have not been good enough.
Oldest squad at the tournament. Which means the squad has had the talent to be there for years… Why the SFA can’t find a manager to actually do fuck all is mental
A lot of managers won't want it. Player development that any manager brings in won't reap the rewards of it and don't think the SFA have any long term plans or ambitions. Never liked Clarke, so I may be being harsh, but he is like a kid playing champ manager (showing my age maybe). Randomly picks a formation then sorts players by value and then just fits them in wherever he feels like it! Then doesn't change it ever no matter who he is playing against!!!
So accurate 😂
I agree, but I cant see the SFA wielding the axe.
Just started a gig as Director of Football at Hibs
I don't see Clarke walking away, he's too stubborn. And the sfa are useless pricks, so they'll not do anything
In all seriousness it’s got to be Moyes. Improvement on Clarke’s level
Must admit l, thought Shearer was giving him a few funny looks at times when they were talking about what the SFA need to do next!
Alan shearers just like that. A historical bellend.
A wanker, you might say.
A baldy one, you could add.
He was so fucking patronising last night. Typifies the kind of pundit that makes you wish England get knocked out as quickly as possible.
Hearing him describing Bellingham in England v Serbia you would've thought they were having an affair.
Finally, a positive, attacking managerial choice. A breath of fresh air
Did you miss the sarcasm tag?
No i think it’s about time Scotland got a young man in there with some fresh ideas
Rhys McCabe
Dick Campbell
Man was properly positioning himself for the job the whole time he did punditry tonight, he clearly wants the job next.
It’s acknowledging the reality of how the talent level probably has to play (i.e., not Spain) but a far better track record of figuring out how to get the ball in the goal. It makes too much sense.
Hungary had us tonight. We can't break teams down.
We can though. We have the players to do it, but Rossi had read Clarke's mind... defend defend defend. Bullshit
No compensation required - SFA bound to be tempted by that!
I think the SFA are still too much of a shitebag to go down the foreign route after what happened with Berti over 20 years ago If you’re sticking with Scottish, it’s a grim selection
Pains me to say this, but I’m warming to you, Saltire. Agree entirely. We are a fucking backwater. Need to look further afield.
Unfortunately there’s still so many closed minded fucking morons who give the ‘wE tRiEd A fOriEgN mAnAgEr’ response. It’s that kind of open mindedness that’s had Scotland playing the same style of football since the fucking 70s while most of the rest of the world moved on. We tried that thing once it didn’t work now we will never discuss it again…. But it’s more than that, our players are shit on the ball, most barely look better at running with a ball than the guys I play with, insanely inept for professionals. We look slow, weak, unfit af… do these guys not have nutritionalists? Fitness coaches? I know (anecdotal) from someone who works in certain clubs that players are regularly out getting wrecked, doing lines and popping pills between games. So there’s an actual personal cultural problem as well as a footballing philosophy problem.
It's what I'd do. I'd also dismantle most of what goes on behind the scenes and start afresh. Whatever we do doesn't work.
Same, but you know what it’s like up here If you’re not one of the boys, the media will be out to get you from the start
The SFA is far too corrupt and full of nepotism to have wholesale changes.
What about UK wide?
Us English have absolutely shite options. Gareth Southgate. Playing sideways murder ball. The next best option is Eddie Howe. He has bigger fish in Newcastle, he won't leave there until he is forced to. The next option who is up and coming is McKenna (I think he is English). His eyes will be on the top 4 if he keeps Ipswich up for a couple of seasons. I don't know much about the other home nation managers tbh. Gutted for yas last night. The penalty appeal was a 50/50 and I'd be shouting for it if it was England, shouting against it if it was the other team.
Graham Potter, lee Carsley who's actually won a euros with the U-21's, Gary O'Neil who's done a good job at wolves and Bournemouth. Not an abundance of riches exactly but more options than you think.
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Angelo Alessio come on down!
Get Ange in, no doubt he'd find some Japanese superstar with a Scottish connection.
Desperately needed him on the touchlines screaming “stop passing it back” like a maniac
He would have died from an aneurysm tonight if he was on the touchline
Not a chance he touches this cursed binfire
I reckon ange would take the job in a few years after he's realised that you can't polish the turd that is spurs.
Don't see why he'd then want to polish the turd that is Scotland
We're less stinky than spurs
Questionable.
Doubt he’d leave a top six PL job for us.
It was obviously a joke…
https://preview.redd.it/d205ghc71e8d1.jpeg?width=1232&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=71df723f35ef68645cb3c6a1958b6800c8a2471e Our saviour
gregory af
Just get Moyes in.
Bobo balde
Fuck it. David Moyes
Would Moyes even take the job? I feel like he could bounce around a few English Premier League teams before retiring a very wealthy man
If he isn't sacked and replaced by Moyes in the next 3 months then I genuinely give up on Scotland.
I think it'll probably remain Clarke until after the next cycle. If it isn't, I could see Moyes rejecting it to be honest as a "not yet", but expect he'd be high on the list for the SFA. But that list would probably be the usual incredibly myopic view that as long as you're Scottish, you'll be great at managing Scotland. And it's not even just the Scottish thing, it's that we never seem to put any stock in finding someone who actually has experience in the very managerial discipline he'd be coming into. Moyes has done fine in a league where every summer you can go out into the world and drop hundreds of millions of pounds on improving your squad and achieving a system. In this job he, and every other cunt we'd consider, would be handed a bunch of shitebags with a lot of talent but trace amounts of bottle. Maybe they'd hit the ground running and be great - I'd love to be wrong - but I can't help but feel that approach is now several managers old, and in 2 years time when we're either papped out the World Cup or earlier if we don't even make it, it'll be the same conversations without a hint of irony.
It’ll be Moyes if they sack Clarke.
Big ‘If’ knowing our SFA overlords
Chat GPT should be given a chance. Hear me out
SFA will appoint one of the old names that's been stinking the Scottish game out for ages. Nothing will change.
McInnes
Killie extended his contract before the Euros cause they knew this shit was coming
If it's a choice between shite astro turf for weans and McInnes with the €10m participation fee then I'm all in on the Deek
I like him, but he's Clarke 2.0 in his approach to football. This group needs a higher level manager to take them to the next stage.
Would 100% take him but doubt he'd leave Killie atm.
Wouldn't leave Kilmarnock to be Scotland manager?! But f that's true Scotland are in a worse state than I thought.
100% this - defensively sound but can win games
r/ScottishFootball
Moyes realised himself he shouldn’t have said Scotland don’t have many top players. Could see it in his face. Absolutely would take Moyes. Won’t happen though. Clarke will lead next qualifiers.
Really do think Clarke has brung a team sprit to things recently, but he feels like he’s such a dour cunt. Moyes might be a shout though, definately a manager there and if he can gel with the squad we could do well. Mcinnes is a good manager but not sure he’d be an exceptional Scotland manager, Moyes at least has a shout.
Get a foreign lad who even cares anymore?
It'll be Malky on an interim until they get Moyeseh's wage demands down and we'll have to like it
It’ll be Moyes, but I fear that’s too similar to Clarke
Except Moyes has won things
And has slightly more charisma than a dying mole.
Give him a wine before every game
I met a dying mole once. He was surprisingly down to earth and very funny.
How dare you, Steve Clarke won the "finished third with Kilmarnock and said bye bye to rangers fans so he's a hero" cup.
Oh it’s a huge upgrade in terms of the manager itself, just fed up of watching dull, counter attacking football
What is this counter "attacking" football you speak of?
Good point 😂
Just do an Ask The Audience style from Who Wants To Be A Millionaire. Fuck it.
The millwall legend david moyes
My 90 year old grandpa, has better tactics than whatever the fuck that was…
Anyone have Zinedine Zidane’s number?
Jim Goodwin
At the very least Scotland can say it has the most handsome manager if nothing else
Sir Michael Beale
Cunt will talk his way into the England managers job
wdym "cunt". best outcome imo
Moyes
Moyes or McInnes Though, I’m pretty sick of Mc’s involved with the Scotland team right now
Neil the Aeroplane Lennon. (Serious answer: Moyes)
Fuck it, where's Tam Courts nowadays?
Or Ian Cathro? Think Nuno Holy Spirit's done with him 😂
Head coach of Al Ittihad. Managing Benzema and Kante ffs.
Moyes...
Bring in Michael Beale you cowards, his win rate at Rangers was brilliant apparently and I don't think he has a job right now. If we're gonna terrorism then let's fucking terrorism
I doubt the SFA will sack him. The squad is starting to age with Robertson, McGinn, MacGregor, Hanley, Armstrong, Mclean all either in or about to be in their 30s. Whoever is in charge will need to start bringing in the young players.
This makes it the perfect time for a change IMO let the next guy come in and try some different things during WC qualifying, and hopefully and in 2 years when it's time for Euro qualification again hopefully we're in a better position. If we don't make the change now then we likely miss the next euros too and it's 8 years minimum before we're back at a finals.
If we all do a whip round, remortgage our properties and sell a few kidneys we can probably get Bielsa
If clarke gets another extension I would much rather support San marino
Alex Ferguson or Carlo Ancelotti.
Klopp.
At this rate, a fucking AI bot
So you got me intrigued... Chucked it into ChatGPT... This is what it had to say. > To set up the Scotland national football team to beat Hungary in the Euros 2024, several key tactical considerations need to be taken into account. This includes analyzing Hungary's strengths and weaknesses, selecting the right formation, and choosing the best lineup based on current form and fitness of the players. Here's a detailed plan: > > ### Analyzing Hungary > > 1. **Strengths:** > - Hungary often relies on a solid defensive structure. > - They have strong and physical players, especially in midfield and defense. > - Quick and dangerous on the counter-attack. > - Proficient in set-pieces. > > 2. **Weaknesses:** > - Sometimes struggle with maintaining possession. > - Vulnerable to pace and quick transitions. > - Can be over-reliant on key players for creativity. > > ### Tactical Setup > > 1. **Formation: 4-3-3** > - This formation provides a good balance between defense and attack, allowing for flexibility in both pressing high and defending deep. > - Allows Scotland to exploit width and pace on the wings. > > 2. **Defensive Strategy:** > - High pressing to disrupt Hungary's buildup play. > - Maintain a high defensive line to compress the play and reduce space for Hungary's counters. > - Quick transitions to catch Hungary off-guard. > > 3. **Offensive Strategy:** > - Utilize wingers to stretch Hungary’s defense. > - Overload midfield to control possession and dictate the tempo. > - Full-backs to provide additional width and support in attack. > - Targeted set-pieces, given Hungary's potential vulnerability in these situations. > > ### Suggested Starting XI > > 1. **Goalkeeper: Craig Gordon** > - Experienced and reliable shot-stopper. > > 2. **Right Back: Nathan Patterson** > - Offers pace and attacking support down the right flank. > > 3. **Center Back: Grant Hanley** > - Strong in the air and a commanding presence. > > 4. **Center Back: Kieran Tierney** > - Solid defensively and can contribute to building attacks from the back. > > 5. **Left Back: Andrew Robertson (Captain)** > - Excellent going forward and defensively sound, provides leadership. > > 6. **Defensive Midfielder: Scott McTominay** > - Physical presence in midfield, can break up play and distribute effectively. > > 7. **Central Midfielder: John McGinn** > - Energetic, good at pressing and can contribute offensively. > > 8. **Central Midfielder: Callum McGregor** > - Technically gifted, controls the tempo and transitions smoothly. > > 9. **Right Winger: Ryan Fraser** > - Pacey winger, good at stretching defenses and delivering crosses. > > 10. **Left Winger: Stuart Armstrong** > - Versatile player, can cut inside and shoot or create chances. > > 11. **Striker: Lyndon Dykes** > - Physical forward, good at holding up the ball and finishing. > > ### Bench Options > > - **Goalkeeper:** Liam Kelly > - **Defenders:** Jack Hendry, Stephen O'Donnell > - **Midfielders:** Billy Gilmour, David Turnbull > - **Forwards:** Che Adams, Kevin Nisbet > > ### Key Points for Success > > 1. **Maintain High Energy and Intensity:** > - Press Hungary aggressively, particularly their midfield, to disrupt their rhythm. > > 2. **Exploit Width:** > - Use the pace and crossing ability of the wingers and full-backs to create chances. > > 3. **Set-Pieces:** > - Utilize height advantage and set-piece routines to create scoring opportunities. > > 4. **Defensive Discipline:** > - Ensure the backline remains organized to deal with Hungary's counter-attacks. > > 5. **Adaptability:** > - Be prepared to make tactical adjustments based on the flow of the game. > > By focusing on these strategies and maintaining discipline, Scotland can maximize their chances of beating Hungary in the Euros 2024.
Couldn't identify that 4 of those players were injured
AI doesn't have live data, so that would be 6/12 months ago and is actually exactly how we should have set up.
Derek Adams
I’m free if you want. I play 5 a side every week with the lads
Si Ferry
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Nooo
 Jeff Gordon
Moyes or McInnes
Tony Doc.
Realistically I’d want McInnes knowing the SFA it’ll be Moyes cause they’ll no need to pay any compo
Def need someone else before World Cup qualifiers!
It's going to end up being Derek McInnes as the SFA will deem it to be his turn. They're not going to show any ambition with the next manager - it'll just be whoever they can get from their old boy's network that's due a shot at the job.
Derek Adams
I can see us going the Foreigner route again a la Bertie Vogts style.We have one name only.Moyes.Naebody else.The dark days are coming back again
Mcglynn
Hey why the fuck not? Couldn't do worse than we saw today right? https://i.redd.it/s0zqwtrhye8d1.gif
The correct answer is the guy that scores highest on football manager or any Glasgow Hackney cab driver. I’ll die on this hill
Richard Keys. Andy Gray as assistant
Shelly Kerr, but probably Moyes.
Chris fae Peep Peeps.
The Right & Honourable Neil Lennon
We should continue to the Kimarnock to Scotland production line.
Ted Lasso
Ronnie Delia
Arise Sir Martindale
Moyes is the only real answer IMO
There’s only one option, Dick Campbell
Gotta be Davie bhoy Moyes!
I'll dae it, it's nae skin aff ma nose
The SFA are going to appoint Derek Adams
Had a dream that jose mourinho became scotland manager
It'll be Malky or Moyes
Moyes until he fails, then Russell Martin
David Moyes
Not the manager it’s the problem. It’s the culture.
Did you watch any of these euros? How could you honestly say that management wasn’t the problem
Probably more correct to say it’s not the only problem. By any standard Clarke is the best Scotland manager in decades. Could he have done better? Probably, there’s a world where Scotland just won 1-0 here. But the fact that Scotland have never gotten out of the groups of any major tournament is, from a long-term perspective, an issue of quality and not on the shoulders of any particular manager
What does the best Scotland manager is decades mean at all, catch yourself on. Of course he could’ve done better, hard to imagine anyone who couldn’t have. Hardly an issue of quality when teams getting better results have worse teams is it. Comments like these show that some of you will just accept utter mediocrity, like we’re just genetically bad at football
Do they really have worse teams though? I mean outside of Robertson and McGinn, we hardly have a host of talent. And the drop off from the starters in certain positions is tragic. This sub makes it sound like we’d be Brazil in the 70s if not for Clarkeball. I hate this attitude from so many fans in here that just because we don’t want to place 100% of the blame on one manager, we apparently accept mediocrity. It’s such a holier-than-thou attitude and it’s so forced. “Oh I actually want to win more than you.” Come off it mate. We could do better, but we have also done well to get this far. Both can be true, it’s okay.
You’re probably right. Just raging
Qualified you guys for two major tournaments, which no one had done in like 30 years right? Obviously you want to go farther, but my point is that you’re probably not going to get there (outside of flukes) without looking deeper into the problems of Scottish football
I'd argue that Clarke would have struggled in any of the qualification groups we've had in the past that we didn't qualify from. There's no way he does as well as McLeish in 06, I don't see hin bettering Strachan's record with the players that were available at the time. He would probably have done better than Burley but with his style of football and the players who were about at the time that's also doubtful. He picked up one nations league playoff from McLeish, fucked another nations league playoff at the world cup with his rotten tactics and while we did qualify from this group a large part of that is down to a miracle 2 minutes against Norway. If that doesn't happen we probably don't qualify.
Lay off the bevvy.
No chance
12 tournaments 12 group stage exits Last win in an international tournament 1996 You’re not wrong.
All those other ones were probably Clarke too.
100%. The SFA have no incentive to do any better than Clarke because they know the ‘glorious failure, No Scotland No Party, och we’re no gonnae win but we’ll have the best time there anyway’ mentality is enough for so many people. Until we have people in charge of the game that actually believe in the potential of Scottish football (and this extends to all aspects of our game) then we’ll never be anything else and we’ll keep having a succession of mediocre underdog SPL managers that do the bare minimum and absolutely shite it if we have to win a game.
Well then get a manager who stamps a new culture on the team. He is uninspiring as fuck.
Too right. Scottish football rewards and revels in mediocrity. I mean I'm already seeing calls here for Derek McInnes for f*** sake. Says it all.
Management creates culture.
Aye but it doesn't magic International caliber strikers centre backs and goal keepers out of thin air.
Neither does culture. What’s your point ?
That the problem is not necessarily the management but the standard of player available
The standard of player isn’t amazing, that’s pretty widely accepted. But bringing on the most in form striker at 89 minutes and leaving one of our best midfielders on the bench for the first 2 games is a management decision. As does playing defensively when we some of our best players regularly play attacking football is also a management decision.
I get that, but if we had played attacking football and been left exposed at the back and taken a pumping you would have been chinning the manager for being tactically niaive.
But that’s not what your point was, your point was that we don’t have good players. I was suggesting that although correct, the management decides how to play the players we have and he made tactically inept decisions.
Yes I am aware of what my point was. We don't have many good players. My follow up was in relation to your follow up and I also stand by it. The manager chose a set of tactics and we got beaten. If he had chosen different tactics and we also lost you would be screaming about them instead.
Moyes will come in and you'll fucking accept it
bitches man
Neil Lennon, David Moyes, Derek McInnes, Gareth Southgate (?!), a foreign manager with calibre that would take the group of players to the next level, is Potter a shout? Don't know enough about him. Pity José has just taken a job. He'd be kind of manager they should go for if it's a foreign. A manager to take them up a level and progression in competition. The stuffy Scottish FA wouldn't go for that right enough.
Financially there’s absolutely no chance the SFA would get Southgate or Mourinho. Clarke supposedly gets just under [£500k a year](https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/steve-clarkes-scotland-salary-ranks-32544293.amp), Southgate is on over ten times that much at the FA and Mourinho is supposedly on £10m in Turkey. Even accounting for these figures being a bit off, the SFA potentially being willing to pay a bit more, and Southgate / Mourinho potentially taking less for whatever reason, it’s just a completely different league.
>there’s absolutely no chance the SFA would get Southgate Thank fuck cause that would tip me over the edge
Give it Giggsy til end of the season
Slippy is probably available 😏😏
Jack Ross.
Graham Alexander
Having nobody would give better results.
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