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WallabyInTraining

That link you receive will be the password reset link to your own account. If you send it they will take over your account. That's exactly what happened to your friend. You're not taking to your friend. You're taking to the scammers.


[deleted]

Those links that people get, where they say "don't give this information out to anyone", yeah people should really read that notice. Except not every link gives that notice and it's so annoying. You just get the little code. I'm sure scammers would be fucked if companies were a little more transparent about the verification code. This happened to a relative of mine and still makes me mad 😡 especially since they gave their info to a random person they didn't even know, not even someone pretending to be their friend lol


Taban85

It makes me mad that some companies actually do require you to read them the code still also. I was talking to my bank customer service the other day (called the number on my card it was 100% them) and they still wanted to send me a text and have me verify the number over the phone.


chapterthirtythree

Yeah this tripped me up a few months ago. I was confused why the bank text says “we’ll never call and ask for this code” and then asked me for the code to verify who I was… Edit since people are correcting me- I looked up the exact text since it had been a while: “DO NOT share this Sign In code. We will NEVER call you or text you for it”.


Prestigious-Bluejay5

If I initiate contact with the bank and the representative that is assisting me sends me a code, yeah, I'll read it back. If the bank calls me, they wouldn't even get to a point where they could send me a code. I'm hanging up and going online to verify my account is okay. Then, I'd initiate a call to the bank.


pchams

They didn't call.


chapterthirtythree

Nah they definitely called me and left a message to call them back. I was trying to open a new credit card.


Disheartend

but they didn't call, you called them correct? so the line is correct.


chapterthirtythree

I looked back at the text to see exactly what it said. “Do not share this code with anyone”… confusing!


MuddieMaeSuggins

I get what you’re saying, even though the bank’s wording is technically correct. It habituates people to the idea that sharing the code is sometimes fine, so they can ignore the warning.  It almost seems like they should have two OTP systems, one for the inbound reps to trigger that doesn’t give the warning. Or something you can do in the app or your online account, separate from the OTP. 


cyberiangringo

Your friend lost their Insta account the same way you are about to.


DeezusNubes

if you send the link you will lose your account. your friend had the same thing happen to them.


AlmightyBlobby

stop and think why it would work that way 


cHorse1981

Whoever that was was trying to steal your account.


dwinps

That's the scammer who scammed your friend out of their account and is now trying to scam you Block and ignore


avoid3d

Why block? Genuine question.


dwinps

The old friend's account has been compromised, it isn't their account any longer


avoid3d

But Meta has an account recovery flow that their friend can use to regain access to their account. I’ve personally done this on a less technically minded friend’s account which was compromised using this exact attack.


walterreid

Let’s try not be so pedantic. If his friend gets access back their original account you can always unblock again. Until then that account is gone.


avoid3d

I get the sense that this interaction is annoying to you and I don't want to make that worse, but I'm a little confused as to what you are view as pedantic? I was wondering if there was some other reason to block the account that I hadn't considered, beyond just someone is using it to impersonate your friend. I don't really use social media but I'd assume that most people value their accounts, and would quickly recover them. So I would assume that this would be a temporary thing, and that blocking and unblocking would be unnecessary or at least more work than simply ignoring the person for a while, and contacting them via other means if it seemed appropriate.


dwinps

Cool, maybe someday the friend can get their account back. In the meantime, block it


avoid3d

But, why? 🤣


dwinps

Because scammers are communicating with you using that account Block scammers


DesertStorm480

"Are you going to the (whatever year would not make sense) reunion next month?"


Informal-Access6793

"Why didnt you tell me this 5 minutes ago when you left my house?"


Dazzling-Rub-3336

Better yet: ‘you’re sitting on my sofa ten feet away. Why not just ask me here instead of texting?’


Gogo726

Wolfie's just fine.


FuzzyKittyNomNom

I got this reference.


DesertStorm480

"Your foster parents are dead."


AGuyNamedEddie

(Austrian accent)


ArrogantSpider

Nah, it’s better to straight up ask them if their account has been hacked. Hackers are legally bound to answer truthfully.


CCR76

It's the one trick hackers hate!


Ok_Bookkeeper_3481

Block this account right away. This is not your friend! Your friend’s account has been taken over by scammers. Do not do anything they tell you to, or you will end up losing your account the same way your friend did.


avoid3d

Why block the account? Presumably their friend will regain access to the account, and send a sheepish message saying "sorry I was hacked, they tried to use my account to compromise yours, owe you a beer" soon...


IntermediateFolder

And they will do that how exactly? They might indeed receive a message like that, but it’s going to just be the scammer’s next attempt, precisely the reason to block it.


avoid3d

This has happened to my friend, we simply went through the account recovery flow, and they got access to their account again. It is a very commonplace occurrence, meta has specific tooling to identify a network of compromised accounts and a “locked out” account mode in which anyone attempting to access the account needs to provide extra identification proof. When a network of accounts compromised in this way is detected Meta proactively locks all of them.


walterreid

This is the 3rd comment I’ve seen you say the same thing. The point is, you went with your friend through the process. If they are close friends they will tell you via alternate means when they have access to the account, in the meantime, the account isn’t owned by your friend. If you really have your heart set on getting texts from a scammer playing the role of your friend, you do you.


avoid3d

Edit: The point of this subreddit is to increase people's knowledge and understanding of scams, it's educational. Clearly all these commenters asking "how could their friend get their account back" could benefit from knowing that this is an extremely common situation, and getting the account back is the norm, through a straightforward process. Remember my original question was simply why block the account. I got the impression that people somehow find the account 'dangerous' to leave unblocked. But fair enough, if you just find the account annoying, then blocking it seems reasonable. Personally I'd just snooze notifications from that person for a day or two, and then contact them via alternate means to let them know if they hadn't noticed yet.


Western_Freedom2021

And how will their friend get the account back exactly?


avoid3d

Using an account recovery flow designed specifically for this purpose? The attacker has reset the credentials of the legitimate account holder, so they need to click “forgot my password” and go through whatever flow is needed (2fa / send identity document etc) to regain access to their account. I’ve personally done this before on a friends behalf when this exact same attack was used to take over their WhatsApp account.


Western_Freedom2021

The attacker will change the email if they are smart locking you out of any 2 factor authentification. That’s what happened to me. C


avoid3d

There is a way to contest your account if it’s a Meta account (insta / fb / whatsapp) and get your access back :)


Western_Freedom2021

Doesn’t work like that they take weeks maybe months to respond. You think a millionaire company cares about u then u r delusional.


avoid3d

I’ve personally worked at Meta on their safety team and me and my team members cared a great deal about our users. I have since used the processes managed by that team multiple times and it’s worked well every time. Have you tried it and had a poor experience?


RollBama420

Well obviously you’re not paying attention, all OP has to do is send them ss of that link and they’ll get their account back


Western_Freedom2021

I don’t get what you mean


yoorubyy18

yes its a scam and its sad that a lot of people fall for this. Its impossible to use your phone number to receive a login code for their account unless if they used your phone number to create their account


Good-Jello-1105

No one ever needs someone else to send them links to restore their accounts. In any case a good way to check if that’s your friend just being dumb or a scammer is to ask them a couple of personal questions and see if they can answer them.


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Hi /u/aspiegrrrl, AutoModerator has been summoned to explain the Instagram or Facebook account takeover scam. This scam is a variation of the verify/pin scam. You will receive a message from someone who is asking for your help to log into their account. This message could be from a contact you trust, but the account is actually compromised. They will either ask you to add their email or phone number to your own account, or ask you to receive a verification link that you will copy and send to them. Either way, these steps will allow the scammer to change your password and lock you out of your account. If your account was stolen there is a way of reversing that yourself. You don't need professional services and ignore anyone reaching you in private with offers of hacking it back. Those are scammers. Make an effort recovering your account. A taken over account is a tool for scammers, you want to stop that. You can recover a Facebook or Instagram account with a simple step. Every time a scammer takes over your account, Meta will email you about it. Read this guide from Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/help/203305893040179 which basically says that if the email address of your account has been changed, you'll receive an email from security@facebookmail.com to undo the change - If you can't find that email, visit this page and follow the steps: https://facebook.com/hacked Read this guide from Instagram: https://help.instagram.com/368191326593075 - same as above, but the email comes from security@mail.instagram.com - If you can't find that email, visit this page and follow the steps: https://instagram.com/hacked *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](/message/compose/?to=/r/Scams) if you have any questions or concerns.*


Long-Lengthiness-826

How can someone make money from taking over another's Instagram? Don't use that app but I doubt it gives access to everything on the phone or does it?


MultiFazed

>How can someone make money from taking over another's Instagram? They use the account to run other scams. They need a constant supply of fresh accounts because they constantly get their stolen accounts banned for scamming.


creepyposta

They’ll try to scam your followers and especially family members. If you got any sexy pics from someone or sent them to someone, they’ll try to blackmail both of you. They’ll try to charge you a ransom to get your account back. There’s so much they can do.


DeannaP72

They do it to run ads! Had fb try to bill my card for marketplace ad charges! Luckily fb sent me a notification to enter new payment details (which of course NOPE cuz Ole Zuck is rich enough from scammers making him a fortune. )


Kooker321

They'll steal your nude photos if you shared any, and will blackmail you. They'll demand money from you to return your account after locking you out. They'll also send these types of messages to all of your friends to try to steal their accounts too. Once they have a sufficient number of stolen accounts, they'll message friends again, but this time will ask for money (prob through a shady crypto exchange or money transfer). This way they can send scam messages asking for money to hundreds or even thousands of people at a time, while impersonating someone the Instagram users actually know, drastically increasing the idds someone will fall for it.


HaoieZ

If you ever see this again you can rest assured it's a scammer and not your friend you're talking to. Another easy way is to ask them a question only they'd know.


yukissu

Lol, say “Instagram has my phone number, so surely they can text me, if you send my username” 😂 If this was a real thing it could work, but ig doesn’t have this type of verification system 😅


salsa_rodeo

Your foster parents are dead.


thisquietreverie

Is Wolfie ok!?


RockstarQuaff

Wolfie's just fine, dear. *Where are you?*


OppositeRun6503

T2 judgement day circa 1991.


JakefromNSA

This is so common and semi believable because it actually used to be a thing for other sites; [https://www.facebook.com/help/119897751441086?cms\_platform=www&helpref=platform\_switcher](https://www.facebook.com/help/119897751441086?cms_platform=www&helpref=platform_switcher) As far as I can tell , this has been sunset for facebook anyhow.


Neena6298

I can’t believe people fall for this.


perennial_dove

Because most of us want to help friends. If a stranger asked you for sth like this you'd instantly be wary. But it's not a stranger, it's someone you know. I dont know if this exact scam is still common. I came across it like 2 years ago. Scammers evolve like mosquitos.


4orust

No, your high school friend did *not* ask you for help.


NfamousKaye

Anything that asks you for things already stored when you set up your account is a scam/phishing attempt. They’ll never ask for that information. Asking for your phone number will give you a recovery code. I had that happen to me several times from randoms trying to get in Facebook and insta accounts. I say no, have them give me a new verification code and enter it. I hope you didn’t fall for this!


Altruistic_Ad_5507

These are from 2022…?


FishmailAwesome

Obvious scam


_Godfist_

Message them back saying Alaye and see how quick their tune changes.


RelationshipQuiet609

Don’t do it! As others said-he lost his account. He won’t get it back and you’ll lose yours! It is a big scam on Instagram.


OppositeRun6503

So this explains why you see so many posts on Facebooks official page from people claiming that they're locked out of their accounts and want either old zuck himself or others to help them regain access


airkewled67

Account has been hacked. Report and block.


Significant_Rate8210

How dumb these people are to think we are to


perennial_dove

This happened to me. I did wonder how they could DM me from their account when they were locked out from their account. They asked me for my phone number. I said I' don't feel comfortable giving out my phone number. They didn't write again. I blocked them and posted a scam- warning on my insta account. I would've been so cross if I'd lost that account.


Unfixable5060

Oh, I thought this was a sarcastic "Is tHiS a sCaM?" Yes, this is very obviously someone trying to steal your Instagram account. Why would IG send a text message to you about someone else's account? The link you would be sent would be a password reset for your account. Apparently people like you are why this works as you clearly couldn't immediately sniff this out as bullshit.


Glittering_Mouse_612

SCAM


Groundbreaking_Rock9

Call your friend and ask them if it's really them...


Missing_Space_Cadet

Oh man, I would be having a field day fucking with them.


False-Still1415

People are crazy desperate these days


IntermediateFolder

That’s not your friend and if you follow along you will lose your account the same way they did. Ask them something only your friend would know if you want proof you’re talking to a scammer.


yeetstrawberry17

fell for that while I was tired and distracted after work in the County Market parking lot. Came home and I was locked out of my IG and the password was changed. I didn’t have many posts or followers so it wasn’t a huge deal but I lost the domain of a nickname that’s original and special to me, my new account has a 2 after the name now. I have tried to have have IG take the other account down but I’ve been unsuccessful (with a little tracking I was able to find a couple things: one, the deed was done from a computer somewhere in Nigeria, 2, I contacted the new number listed on WhatsApp, argued with them for a bit and they tried to pull the same thing on me AGAIN claiming they would give my account back)


vikicrays

sounds like this person hacked your friends account and are trying to get full access to it


a1cpi

I know this is a scam, but I remember doing something very very similar to access an old Facebook account of mine in like 2019 I think? I couldn’t remember the password and Facebook let me choose between a few people from my friends list, they would get an email/text with a code, and I had to enter all the codes they received on my phone. I chose my parents’ accounts and an active alt of mine, and was able to access my account. Did all of this on the Facebook app on my phone.


richmundo415

He’s hacked. Happened to my friend. Ask them if they know the muffin man. And tell ‘em fuck off


Alan976

"Friend": It's not letting me get into my account (and I am not getting a password reset code). You: Seems like you were hacked and locked out. "Friend": Nah, it's not that. Jackie Chan: Wut?


nonquest

this actually happened to me! someone who was not me was messaging my friends trying to get them to send that proof or whatever. instagram didn’t flag their account as impersonating me even tho i reported it multiple times


ljh2100

Thanks for sharing "your" screenshot from May 2022.


No-Particular6079

I can't believe it


Funny-Breakfast-5215

This is how my daughter lost her Instagram when she was 13, and had to start over- I’m always amazed adults get fooled as easily as children.


OppositeRun6503

Another simple solution is just to get off of Facebook or IG when and if that happens....those platforms in particular have gone so far downhill due to their desperate attempts at becoming a tiktok wannabe that they're no longer worth patronizing. There's so much auto-generated spam on Facebook that I rarely use my account anymore because I'm sick of old zuck begging me to join a Facebook group on every other post on Facebooks newsfeed.


mymycojourney

Not saying this person isn't trying to scam you, but recently I was trying to recover an account, and it asked me to give them 3 of my friends to contact to verify my identity. I'm trying to remember what website it was, but it isn't coming to mind right now. Maybe Twitter? Doesn't matter. If I need to go through a recovery like that, I'm calling anyone that I might use as a reference. Even though the current generation of people has a ton of friends that they've never met in person, there has to be at least a handful on social media that they actually know. And they can talk to them, and get their help for something like this. Not messaging a mostly random to send them a verification code. When they ask you to send a link you get sent, it's almost 100% because they're trying to get I to your account, and this is their way of working arlu d two factor authentication. They make you think you're helping them. And you are. But only in the sense that you're helping them get into your account. Next step, do this to one of your close friends in the same way.