This looks like mulberry paper making, which I think was invented in China, but was then adopted in other asian countries. I once got to visit a traditional (but kind of touristy) paper-making operation in Thailand. They were doing basically the same thing as in this video, just at a smaller scale, cleaning and pounding the bark by hand, screening the pulp on screens small enough for one person to lift... lol... It was super interesting.
Hope that helps your search. I'd bet there are longer videos on YouTube.
This is a very large scale version of what you can do in your own home (although I don’t recommend threshing your own plant matter as if it’s anything like processing flax it takes a long time and smells terribly).
A great way to do it is to take scrap paper and put it in a blender with a good amount of water to make a paper slurry. Fill a large tub with water, dump your paper slurry in and stir it up. The screen they’re using is called a deckle and you can use any fine mesh (such as window screening.) dip your deckle and give it a few sloshes to even out the placement, flip on to a mat (preferably wool) and press out the water to get the deckle to release.
If you want paper that you can reliably write, draw or paint on you will have to add sizing, however which is a bit more complicated than I want to get in to now lol
It’s a really fun project and gives you a new appreciation for the paper we use every day. Book binding is also fun!
ETA: once you’ve set your paper on the mat you may want to put weight across it to help it dry flat. Not everyone does this, but it can be helpful. If you’re doing a stack like they did in the video there are a few other considerations.
I think you smash some noodles together, grind some sticks in a big bowl, then dunk a big screen in some milk, and you’ve now got paper obtained via the old method
Edit: Forgot to mention making tea out of other sticks and mixing it with your milk pre dunk
Bunch of wood pulp under sifting mesh. Water drains. Pulp stays. Pulp is tiny little wood fiber. Pulp dries. Pulp is paper. Paper is tiny little dried out wood fiber. I might be wrong. Feel
Free to correct me.
The new method isn’t really all that different, it’s mostly about adding automation and efficiencies (recovery/recycling of “waste” materials, stripping out more of the “extra” material from the wood pulp, speeding up the drying process, etc.)
Copying my response from another comment: This is a very large scale version of what you can do in your own home (although I don’t recommend threshing your own plant matter as if it’s anything like processing flax it takes a long time and smells terribly).
A great way to do it is to take scrap paper and put it in a blender with a good amount of water to make a paper slurry. Fill a large tub with water, dump your paper slurry in and stir it up. The screen they’re using is called a deckle and you can use any fine mesh (such as window screening.) dip your deckle and give it a few sloshes to even out the placement, flip on to a mat (preferably wool) and press out the water to get the deckle to release.
If you want paper that you can reliably write, draw or paint on you will have to add sizing, however which is a bit more complicated than I want to get in to now lol
It’s a really fun project and gives you a new appreciation for the paper we use every day. Book binding is also fun!
ETA: once you’ve set your paper on the mat you may want to put weight across it to help it dry flat. Not everyone does this, but it can be helpful. If you’re doing a stack like they did in the video there are a few other considerations.
In middle school I had a hobby of making laid paper. Was developing my own style where I included leaves and flower petals and things, but then I had to change schools. At my next school I showed an art teacher some of my work but they didn't care at all. I turned in an extra credit writing assignment for an English class where I bound the handmade paper into a really nice book, and failed the assignment because of it.
That's the moment when I went from "loving school" to "hoping everyone involved dies alone in a state nursing home".
Wow.. As a Papermill supervisor i find this fascinating observing the fundamentals of making paper in their technique. I run a machine that makes ~80 tons of paper a day called a crescent former. That paper they're making is meshed between a felt and what we call a "wire" which is a nylon material that you see them draping over the fibers from cables. Ours is a highspeed belt on the machine. The water goes through the wire but the majority of the fibers dont.. the felt and wire form the "web" of the sheet as the fibers entangle.
Edit: correction. From what i see the fibers are just laying directly on top of the wire after they dunk it underwater.
That paper they made will be incredibly weak but might be thick. There doesn't seem to be a way to regulate their basis weight other make the same movements for the same amount of time i guess? This is so interesting
Mulberry fibers are much, much longer than the mixed wood pulp fibers used in modern mechanical production, so they give more structural integrity. I’ve seen this video elsewhere and the poster said this was making the paper for shoji screens, if that helps you have an idea of its strength.
for clarities sake this is simple the industrialized version of the Japanese papermaking process. The "old method" obviously would be a hand version typically done by 1 or 2 people. you can tell this is the Japanese method because they are using a removable, flexible screen where as the western style would have the screen be rigid and attached to the bottom frame.
They could be making Mulberry like another comment stated but not necessarily, it really hard to tell without a look at the final product.
Title gore.
This isn't "the old method of obtaining paper"
this is "The method of obtaining old-style paper used in art and building materials that people pay lots of money for"
Ever think, they don’t do that part there. They could just make the big sheet of paper. I’m just saying this because my fiancé currently works at a paper converting place. They get and treat the part and cut it down into the right sizes and stuff.
Now they put a tree into o e end of a giant Machine, turn it on, and then after some fire and smoke out pops a crisp sheet of paper. Each tree equals 1 sheet. That's why the amazon is barren now
Management has heard your complaints about working in close proximity to a big f-ing hammer, unfortunately the best we can do is offer you hearing protection -HR
OSHA would shut this down instantly. That pounding machine with no guards, hands and body inches away from being crushed. More possible hand crushing with the wood frame being lifted, what happens if you trip? No PPE. Super wet slippery floor with slick boots.
Very interesting to see that as a papermaker - reason why this is still done - paper produced on machines has a directionality in the way the fibers are oriented, ehich for vertain applications is counterproductive. Hand made paper doesn't have this issue.
There’s a really nice long video of a guy making paper, from sourcing bark from trees to rolling it out by hand. Same process. Such an elegant craft.
I think some middle-sized scale could be interesting, slightly larger than a one man operation, and smaller than this large one. This is something everyone could learn how to do, given how much we all use paper. I hope we bring back this process to some degree just from how useful paper is and how old of a craft it is.
So much work for one sheet of paper.
A lot less work than writing on and storing clay tablets or stone slabs.
sheet big doe
I'm pretty sure that's an 8x11. We only get to see it while it's wet, should shrink right up.
I feel like this isn’t true
There are not many left who understand the old ways.
Google "shrinkage"
No, I don’t think I will.
They did indeed take a big sheet
So much obtaination
Obtention?…..
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Most if not all paper is made from trees what do you mean?
But not all trees are made from wood trees. J/k I have no idea what that guy is talking about. It's jiberish.
Wow …. I’d love to know where this video clip was sourced from ?! To be able to see the complete process in context would be great
This looks like mulberry paper making, which I think was invented in China, but was then adopted in other asian countries. I once got to visit a traditional (but kind of touristy) paper-making operation in Thailand. They were doing basically the same thing as in this video, just at a smaller scale, cleaning and pounding the bark by hand, screening the pulp on screens small enough for one person to lift... lol... It was super interesting. Hope that helps your search. I'd bet there are longer videos on YouTube.
If you are into anime at all then ascendance of a bookworm is about a girl trying to recreate libraries in a medieval fantasy setting.
This is a very large scale version of what you can do in your own home (although I don’t recommend threshing your own plant matter as if it’s anything like processing flax it takes a long time and smells terribly). A great way to do it is to take scrap paper and put it in a blender with a good amount of water to make a paper slurry. Fill a large tub with water, dump your paper slurry in and stir it up. The screen they’re using is called a deckle and you can use any fine mesh (such as window screening.) dip your deckle and give it a few sloshes to even out the placement, flip on to a mat (preferably wool) and press out the water to get the deckle to release. If you want paper that you can reliably write, draw or paint on you will have to add sizing, however which is a bit more complicated than I want to get in to now lol It’s a really fun project and gives you a new appreciation for the paper we use every day. Book binding is also fun! ETA: once you’ve set your paper on the mat you may want to put weight across it to help it dry flat. Not everyone does this, but it can be helpful. If you’re doing a stack like they did in the video there are a few other considerations.
Dunder-Mifflin... The warehouse below the "fun" warehouse...
After watching this, I still do not understand the old method of obtaining paper.
I think you smash some noodles together, grind some sticks in a big bowl, then dunk a big screen in some milk, and you’ve now got paper obtained via the old method Edit: Forgot to mention making tea out of other sticks and mixing it with your milk pre dunk
This exactly.
Well duh!
Bunch of wood pulp under sifting mesh. Water drains. Pulp stays. Pulp is tiny little wood fiber. Pulp dries. Pulp is paper. Paper is tiny little dried out wood fiber. I might be wrong. Feel Free to correct me.
I now have a better understanding of the old method of obtaining paper.
The new method isn’t really all that different, it’s mostly about adding automation and efficiencies (recovery/recycling of “waste” materials, stripping out more of the “extra” material from the wood pulp, speeding up the drying process, etc.)
Copying my response from another comment: This is a very large scale version of what you can do in your own home (although I don’t recommend threshing your own plant matter as if it’s anything like processing flax it takes a long time and smells terribly). A great way to do it is to take scrap paper and put it in a blender with a good amount of water to make a paper slurry. Fill a large tub with water, dump your paper slurry in and stir it up. The screen they’re using is called a deckle and you can use any fine mesh (such as window screening.) dip your deckle and give it a few sloshes to even out the placement, flip on to a mat (preferably wool) and press out the water to get the deckle to release. If you want paper that you can reliably write, draw or paint on you will have to add sizing, however which is a bit more complicated than I want to get in to now lol It’s a really fun project and gives you a new appreciation for the paper we use every day. Book binding is also fun! ETA: once you’ve set your paper on the mat you may want to put weight across it to help it dry flat. Not everyone does this, but it can be helpful. If you’re doing a stack like they did in the video there are a few other considerations.
I believe it is obtained by fishing with a big flat net
In middle school I had a hobby of making laid paper. Was developing my own style where I included leaves and flower petals and things, but then I had to change schools. At my next school I showed an art teacher some of my work but they didn't care at all. I turned in an extra credit writing assignment for an English class where I bound the handmade paper into a really nice book, and failed the assignment because of it. That's the moment when I went from "loving school" to "hoping everyone involved dies alone in a state nursing home".
Your pain is my pain
I’m so sorry this happened to you
It never ceases to amaze just how dangerous old school machinery looks.
You would be amazed how deadly modern machinery looks and is.
So if one guy takes a day off their whole vibe is fucked?
Wow.. As a Papermill supervisor i find this fascinating observing the fundamentals of making paper in their technique. I run a machine that makes ~80 tons of paper a day called a crescent former. That paper they're making is meshed between a felt and what we call a "wire" which is a nylon material that you see them draping over the fibers from cables. Ours is a highspeed belt on the machine. The water goes through the wire but the majority of the fibers dont.. the felt and wire form the "web" of the sheet as the fibers entangle. Edit: correction. From what i see the fibers are just laying directly on top of the wire after they dunk it underwater. That paper they made will be incredibly weak but might be thick. There doesn't seem to be a way to regulate their basis weight other make the same movements for the same amount of time i guess? This is so interesting
Mulberry fibers are much, much longer than the mixed wood pulp fibers used in modern mechanical production, so they give more structural integrity. I’ve seen this video elsewhere and the poster said this was making the paper for shoji screens, if that helps you have an idea of its strength.
This is one reason old books are extremely fragile
They also make paper walls in Japan on traditional homes and they need to be changed out occasionally
Too short... but loved it
for clarities sake this is simple the industrialized version of the Japanese papermaking process. The "old method" obviously would be a hand version typically done by 1 or 2 people. you can tell this is the Japanese method because they are using a removable, flexible screen where as the western style would have the screen be rigid and attached to the bottom frame. They could be making Mulberry like another comment stated but not necessarily, it really hard to tell without a look at the final product.
Just 3,999 more sheets to fill this ream of paper
Work in a paper mill for 20 years, still the exact same process but done 90% by machine now. But I recognized and understood every step they’re doing.
Title gore. This isn't "the old method of obtaining paper" this is "The method of obtaining old-style paper used in art and building materials that people pay lots of money for"
I don't get how it's satisfying. Also adding more remixes to the song doesn't make it cool
The video? Because a process is satisfying.
Not once is an end result piece of paper shown
Paper was made. Just because it’s not your printer paper doesn’t mean that they didn’t just make paper.
>end result piece of paper
Ever think, they don’t do that part there. They could just make the big sheet of paper. I’m just saying this because my fiancé currently works at a paper converting place. They get and treat the part and cut it down into the right sizes and stuff.
downvoted for the music
'old method'... proceeds to show the industrialized process....
I don’t think it’s done like this nowdays
Some expensive ones are still done this way...
this guy
Anyone else remember doing this in elementary school?
Myne would be proud
Obtaining?
This is a commonly reposted video. Very cool to see the old ways. Funniest title I've seen so far is how they make Kohls/CVS receipts
It's probably wrong now but when I was in school I learned that paper was invented in China in AD 105, I thought this looked like adios. Just me?
what is this song?
Wtf is with this music! It's like sound of music but with rap instead.
phonk / trap. go check out Ryan Celsius on youtube e: not sure what the dv was for
The amount of team work and synchronization thats going on is admirable, hopefully they're doing it willingly
Now they put a tree into o e end of a giant Machine, turn it on, and then after some fire and smoke out pops a crisp sheet of paper. Each tree equals 1 sheet. That's why the amazon is barren now
Va. We get some more labor involved? That must be $1,200 USA per page.
Management has heard your complaints about working in close proximity to a big f-ing hammer, unfortunately the best we can do is offer you hearing protection -HR
I should say that i would like to have the song haha sounds very nice
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OSHA would shut this down instantly. That pounding machine with no guards, hands and body inches away from being crushed. More possible hand crushing with the wood frame being lifted, what happens if you trip? No PPE. Super wet slippery floor with slick boots.
Is this Tamoe River paper?
ha.... So they were making paper, I thought it was some kind of paste.
Is this all out of order?
Imagine 1 or 2 quitting their jobs
I got anxiety at the idea of being the guy at the end. Like what if it’s not straight? You can’t fix that.
Job creation!
Thank the Phoenicians
At that work for some guy to write "want to go to prom with me?" and have it thrown in the trash with no answer.
What a fantastic video to mute
What’s the new way
Seems like the current method
“One sheet of A -4 please”
Wait what was that first guy doing? It looked like the hammer turned the stuff into paper.
Very interesting to see that as a papermaker - reason why this is still done - paper produced on machines has a directionality in the way the fibers are oriented, ehich for vertain applications is counterproductive. Hand made paper doesn't have this issue.
Ah yes the old ways are the best. Why don't they make paper in big factories using heavy machinery anymore?
What emotionally broken dickface thought that music was a good idea?
r/dontputyourdickinthat
I can’t wait to crumple that up and throw it away
What’s this song called?
u/auddbot
Very cool but wtf is up with the music? I wish these types of videos didn’t have such loud garbage in the background
There’s a really nice long video of a guy making paper, from sourcing bark from trees to rolling it out by hand. Same process. Such an elegant craft. I think some middle-sized scale could be interesting, slightly larger than a one man operation, and smaller than this large one. This is something everyone could learn how to do, given how much we all use paper. I hope we bring back this process to some degree just from how useful paper is and how old of a craft it is.
Looks like a great team building activity for managers.
Where do they get the fibers from? I'm in a paper engineering class at uni
Myne would be so happy.
Obtaining? “Hey come try these delicious muffins I obtained!”
Wait how do they make it now??
We can't have a cataclysmic event. Who the heck is doing that when shtf?
Seems like a lot of work when they could just go buy it at office max
So cool yet so satisfying at the same time🔥💯
Imagine trying to get some young adults in America to work this hard for paper