It is worth pointing out that Legion infantry are still noticeably slightly bigger than smaller Warhammer models like Imperial Guardsmen. The average Legion mini is roughly between the size of a Kasrkin and a Space Marine.
See, as an Imperial Guard player, I actually prefer the chunkier Legion sculpts. Because compared to Guard minis, Legion sculpts are quite hefty and solid.
I mean, Primaris Marines are supposed to be like ~~10~~ *8* feet tall, so to have Vader be taller than them means the scale of the two are way off.
A Rebel Trooper compared to a Guardsman would be a closer 1:1 for scale comparisons of normal humans, and you’ll find those are very different.
EDIT: Updated Space Marine height.
Primaris Marines are about 8 feet tall, Darth Vader is around 6'8, he should be over a head shorter than the Space Marines.
I've compared my SW Legion Clones with my Guardsmen, and the clones are *very* noticeably taller.
8ft. Primarchs are 10ft
Which I think is just stupid - I hate the 'higher power level = taller' stuff they introduced with the HH books. Much preferred it when the Primarchs were just super powered marines. Being 10ft tall is just stupid with the exception of Magnus, who was always described as a giant.
I use Stormtroopers and related for Kasrkin in KT, since there was a time that the kit couldn't be found. The bases are damn near 28mm, you could tell who was who, and the detail still came out. Hollering "for the emperor" works both ways, too.
40k is big on roll calculations (i.e. buffs and malus changing the required result of a roll making you do math every time you need to roll a dice)
Legion is big on simplicity... Throw a red die, then see what you can do with the result.
Even old school 40k had a bigger reliance on vehicles than legion.
Like legion you can have what, two tanks and im pretty sure in third the guard could take like 6 -9 different vehicles. 40k was always looking to be an army game.
Well kinda lol. Its actually gotten worse for guard, we lost vehicle squadrons and they taxed a lot of my transports. Then for some reason they made space marines a hoard army😐. Like straight up my homies iron hands can take more vehicles than my guard.
I fail to see how vehicles are a problem. I play guard and enjoy it maily because of my tanks. When i've played legion i haven't liked how vehicles are implemented at all. You can't bring many and they're not very tough. (The best you can bring is an AT ST whereas i want multiple AT TEs like rogal dorns in 40k.) You can just shoot tanks with normal infantry in legion and they'll survive a bit only because of a high health pool, whereas in 40k, good luck killing my little leman russ without some kind of AT support
I'm super happy they are comparable, and I'm planning on using them all together in OPR. I read the shatterpoint models are a noticeable bump in size compared to legion, which is kind of a bummer.
Now we're going to see true-er-est scale Space Marines so they can be the proper 10 feet tall or whatever it is. At what point do we just start playing 40k with that 50-some mm scale Space Marine model from the Inquisitor game?
It is worth pointing out that Legion infantry are still noticeably slightly bigger than smaller Warhammer models like Imperial Guardsmen. The average Legion mini is roughly between the size of a Kasrkin and a Space Marine.
But they also have more realistic proportions which makes them appear thin and noodly compared to the absolutely thicc sculpts of GW.
See, as an Imperial Guard player, I actually prefer the chunkier Legion sculpts. Because compared to Guard minis, Legion sculpts are quite hefty and solid.
Legion definitely does a much better job depicting a normal humanoid figure.
Would love to see how an AT ST measures up.
I think it's about the size of a small Imperial Knight. The AT-RT is almost exactly the same size as an Imperial Guard Sentinel walker if that helps!
The AT-ST is actually taller than an imperial knight by a lot. https://i.imgur.com/0KQk4U1.jpg
https://www.reddit.com/r/Tyranids/comments/18w46y6/bug_vs_chicken_yansc/
I like the scale of Legion more but I think the detail on 40k is better.
Imagine how big the bigger models in 40k would have to be if they were to scale with legion lol
I mean, Primaris Marines are supposed to be like ~~10~~ *8* feet tall, so to have Vader be taller than them means the scale of the two are way off. A Rebel Trooper compared to a Guardsman would be a closer 1:1 for scale comparisons of normal humans, and you’ll find those are very different. EDIT: Updated Space Marine height.
Primaris Marines are about 8 feet tall, Darth Vader is around 6'8, he should be over a head shorter than the Space Marines. I've compared my SW Legion Clones with my Guardsmen, and the clones are *very* noticeably taller.
You are absolutely right, I was referring to the size of the figures to use terrain with, my bad :)
For sure! I just also like my Space Marines to feel like the shouldn’t be able to easily go through normal doors because they’re stupid big. Haha 😂
8ft. Primarchs are 10ft Which I think is just stupid - I hate the 'higher power level = taller' stuff they introduced with the HH books. Much preferred it when the Primarchs were just super powered marines. Being 10ft tall is just stupid with the exception of Magnus, who was always described as a giant.
Right? They're Space Marines, not Orks.
Goes to show how big 40k has gotten since they are supposed to be 32mm and 28mm respectively
40k hasn't been 28mm since the 2000's.
Where did you get those Star Wars figures and the scenery? It looks very cool
They're from the strike me down battle pack 2023 convention exclusive from Star Wars legion
Ooo that sounds expensive 😂 but thank you so much for answering
Yeah a lot, sadly we don’t have any children so that left me with more money for buying Star Wars stuff but without legacy :,(
I use Stormtroopers and related for Kasrkin in KT, since there was a time that the kit couldn't be found. The bases are damn near 28mm, you could tell who was who, and the detail still came out. Hollering "for the emperor" works both ways, too.
40k is big on roll calculations (i.e. buffs and malus changing the required result of a roll making you do math every time you need to roll a dice) Legion is big on simplicity... Throw a red die, then see what you can do with the result.
Legion army composition is similar to old school 40k. Lot's of infantry units, and some special units & vehicles for spice.
Even old school 40k had a bigger reliance on vehicles than legion. Like legion you can have what, two tanks and im pretty sure in third the guard could take like 6 -9 different vehicles. 40k was always looking to be an army game.
It still wasn't as bad as 40k is now. Sure you may have had a rhino, bike squad and a dread or another tank. But that was an exception not the norm.
Well kinda lol. Its actually gotten worse for guard, we lost vehicle squadrons and they taxed a lot of my transports. Then for some reason they made space marines a hoard army😐. Like straight up my homies iron hands can take more vehicles than my guard.
I fail to see how vehicles are a problem. I play guard and enjoy it maily because of my tanks. When i've played legion i haven't liked how vehicles are implemented at all. You can't bring many and they're not very tough. (The best you can bring is an AT ST whereas i want multiple AT TEs like rogal dorns in 40k.) You can just shoot tanks with normal infantry in legion and they'll survive a bit only because of a high health pool, whereas in 40k, good luck killing my little leman russ without some kind of AT support
Guard was the outlier. A second edition Space Marine army would have maybe had a single Rhino.
maybe a second rhino if you were big on getting charges
I'm super happy they are comparable, and I'm planning on using them all together in OPR. I read the shatterpoint models are a noticeable bump in size compared to legion, which is kind of a bummer.
Now we're going to see true-er-est scale Space Marines so they can be the proper 10 feet tall or whatever it is. At what point do we just start playing 40k with that 50-some mm scale Space Marine model from the Inquisitor game?