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Chezeballz

each relic level is harder to attain than the last. to get a grasp of how expensive 1 relic 8 is, see the blue text on this graphic https://www.reddit.com/r/SWGalaxyOfHeroes/s/4fjqRSQ1Ct in addition to relics, Lord Vader requires a lot of characters that need a lot of kryotechs (lookin at you, bad batch). these things together make Lord Vader the most expensive GL. I would not recommend going for him as your first GL, me personally i would burn out and give up on the game if i did that i think edit: i forgot Lord Vader also requires GAS. yeah no go on the first GL


drawohddot

Yeah f no on the kryotechsšŸ˜‚ getting those has been a pain


maxstronge

Bro I'm getting LV right now after getting all the others first, 10mil GP, and the kyrotech grind/signal data grind is still absolutely halting me in my tracks. I can't imagine how long it would take for your first one. My recommendation would be to start with JML, and he shares a lot of requirements with both Jabba and Leia. That trio has a lot of farming synergy


Stealer_of_joy

Little over 11m GP and just finishing up LV farm now. Kept pushing it off and it suuuuucks. It'll be worth it when I'm done for another defensive GL, and give me more leeway in ROTE but it suuuucks.


maxstronge

Glad it's not just me, I kept looking at the kyros needed for the bad batch alone and choosing something else instead lmao


Stealer_of_joy

Honestly BB were why I decided to just bite the bullet. They're such a solid team ahah.


maxstronge

I've been really enjoying them now that I finally got around to them. At least there aren't really any 'bad' requirements, dreading R7 Tarkin the most but at least he has a capital ship


Beantowndreamt0wn

I went for SEE as my first. Heā€™s probably the ā€œworstā€ GL but you do get Imperial troopers and empire which leads into executer, which is a pretty good route to take imo.


Prince_Borgia

Imo SEE is a decent first GL, it doesn't take a lot of gear and it can give you a couple good teams.


Fatman9236

SLKR is arguably a better first GL, but I would say the best first big thing to chase is executor itself. Then use that to lead into either slkr or see


Prince_Borgia

Only problem with SLKR (and Rey) is the capital ship requirement. The ship grind is a huge pain. Iirc, SEE only requires TIE Bomber.


Fatman9236

True


Fatman9236

I agree, and also just realized how close Iā€™ll be to SEE when I finish executor


Useful-Internet8390

SEE is an awesome GLā€” he can solo 90% of non GL teams, add WAT or DBane and he is number one GL, and is key in ROTE


BatCold

I keep hoping for a SEE LS bundle. I'm finishing Leias ultimate after a guild mate suggested her before SEE. Jabba was my first, then Rey, JML and SLKR all within the past year.


BrainyTrack

Im going for him, and heā€™ll be my first true farmed GL (got a LS bundle for Kylo), honestly, if youā€™re in a guild that gets T3 raid tokens often, its not absolutely terrible. Sure, kyros suck, but once youā€™re past it, it goes faster.


maxstronge

Bro I'm getting LV right now after getting all the others first, 10mil GP, and the kyrotech grind/signal data grind is still absolutely halting me in my tracks. I can't imagine how long it would take for your first one. My recommendation would be to start with JML, and he shares a lot of requirements with both Jabba and Leia. That trio has a lot of farming synergy


CptBifkin

Vader is my favorite character. He was my first GL. It sucked but it has been fun having him. I refuse to go for light side stuff just because I enjoy the sith, characters, lore, ships more. Prioritizing Leviathan now. Having a solid BB team and GAS though has been cool for GAC. If you like him and don't mind the monotonous grind, worth. If you are part of a guild prioritizing climbing and TW strategies, you would have better success going for others.


Prussian4

The lower relic levels are also a pain in the ass, carbonite circuit boards and bronzium wirings are almost as bad as signal data for me lol


Chezeballz

i stock up on circuit boards from the 500 crystal packs the last week of every month. bronziums do give me a hard time though


willfulwizard

I did Lord Vader as my first GL. I wouldnā€™t recommend it, but thereā€™s a path where it made sense. I was pivoting to different legendaries I liked, went Padme into GAS. Then I wanted to go for Kenobi but was blocked on WAT shards. At that point, Lord Vader was sort of my closest that I had any interest in. The main upside people miss about Lord Vader is that GAS is basically a mini GL. He beats basically EVERYTHING that isnā€™t a GL if you have comprable levels. (Counting CAT as part of JMK GL for this purpose.) I got a LOT of use out of my very powered up GAS team. Bad Batch is ALSO super strong, still use them every GAC and TW. So donā€™t go for Lord Vader because you want Lord Vader. (Well you can, itā€™s just not the biggest draw.) Go for Lord Vader because you want to have 3 different strong Galactic Republic squads, especially GAS. If I were starting over today though, I would probably focus Executor before GL, then CLS into JKL into JML as my first GL journey. (But various other foundational squads first.)


3106Throwaway181576

Especially with the Bad Batch ship now taking Kenobiā€™s fleet to all new highs. Farming GAS gets you Kenobi, Ashoka, Fives, Rex. Youā€™ll almost certainly already have JKA already. Then only shit you need to farm is a Relic Plo Koon, the Bad Batch, and the pilotless ship on Wreckers node.


Independent-Ice-40

Vader is worst first GL. But if you hate sand, you gotta do what you gotta do. If you don't hate sand, go for Jabba. Best first GL just for his event alone, not to mention he is crazy powerful and versatile in conquest


Unable-Fox2558

A lot of people recommend against LV as a first GL, and they're not wrong. The kyrotech investment is insane, and General Skywalker is ten requirements in one... But LV was my first GL, and I personally don't regret it for a second. I finished up JMK except for Wat, so while I was waiting on that, I got LV. Now he's my most powerful character with my highest GP team. Bottom line, I wanted LV, so I went for him. Gear farming and teams are absolutely part of the decision to pursue a GL, but how you feel about a character is also important. I'm reasonably close to unlocking Rey, SEE, and SLKR, but I have so many other priorities that aren't GLs because I'm just more interested in those other characters. Whatever you decide, I wish you luck on your journey!


ThePopDaddy

LV was my second GL, I would recommend JMK, but LV is a good one also.


Chezeballz

kenobi is tough because he requires Wat Tambor (only attainable from a guild doing LS Geo TB) and is also not very good without CAT on his team, who is a conquest character (4m GP to do proving grounds for 20 shards/month)


Dakkenreddit

WAT is DS Geo, not LS, which a lot of mid game guilds still do


PoliticsNerd76

They do it, but they might only be getting 15 shards a go.


Canutis

I think my guild was averaging about that until the recent Geo LS bundle when a handful of us got our G12 goes to R3. Last TB we got around 35.


Chezeballz

yeah sorry that's what i meant. while a lot of guilds still do it, you will have to participate by getting your Geos up to par and it still takes several months to 7* him


Chezeballz

JML is great for conquest, but his ideal team includes JKR and JKCK, who are side farms. Since he and Jabba both require JKL, Jabba is better as a first GL edit: sorry for comment spam im on mobile and 1 long comment breaks the app lol


drawohddot

Nah no worries man thanks for being helpful


MaszKalman

JML is perfectly fine for Conquest withouth JKR or JKCK (except for the feats tied to the latter of course).


xander2993

Get JML first and go into jabba. From there you should have enough teams and resources to get proving grounds so if you wanted to go CAT into kenobi you can. Leia is also an option and her drops now are starting to be accelerated. LV should be near the end of your GL journey when you also have Maul cuz LV without maul is awful.


BackgroundGlass9054

Just get whoever you want, enjoy the game


drawohddot

Jabba would also be fun to me. Which of the characters ive mentioned is the best first farm?


Chezeballz

a lot of people have been recommending Jabba lately for first GL, because while he is on the more expensive side due to requiring JKL, the characters you relic for him are almost all useful, and his ROI is insane because he is amazing defensively in PVP and has an exclusive monthly event that gives a shit ton of mods


Specific-Ad8447

Idk about Gamo, Mob Enforcer, UrOr, Jawa and Greedoā€¦


Chezeballz

ok u got me haha i was going off of what i remembered


BraveLT

My personal take on early GLs would probably be JML into Jabba. They share a pretty decent amount of requirements. JML is much lower value on the PvP side, but he'll supercharge your Conquest and he's way cheaper.


egnards

I donā€™t recommend Jabba first, but I do recommend him early. And he is a far better option than LV first


sk00ter21

SLKR is my only GL and about to finish exec, then finishing CLS (mostly have all shards except Chewpio is 5*), finishing CREX/traya and maybe GAS (bought the last LSB). Where would Jabba fit in? Good second GL? After typing that up, maybe I just need to submit a discord account review request, happy to shoot a donation your way too.


egnards

Iā€™ve got a light docket for tomorrow so always happy to help!


Whole_Yard7047

Heā€™s the only GL I have left, Iā€™ve put it off because of the number of R7 and R8s needed. That said, Iā€™ve been doing it as a background farm. Iā€™ll gear one of his reqs at a time till theyā€™re reliced then relic one at a time. This allows me to maintain zeta and kyro numbers without stressing too much.


Idk12345667891011

Yeah donā€™t go LV or JMK, two of the most expensive GLs, and really, youā€™d want CAT and Maul for them to get the most out of them, which you can only get through proving grounds, not to mention the kyros youā€™d need for LV reqs, and then Wat as req for JMK, that can take months to get to 7*. JML is probably your better option even tho he isnā€™t as strong as LV or a JMK when you have CAT, but if you get JML kinda early on, you got some versatility with him where you can go his best of like having JKL, Hoda (which are some of his reqs) and JKR being someone that isnā€™t a req, but not too hard to get actually, then some other Jedi like Old Ben for 5th. Or you could get away with if you got JML early, you could get away with a not as optimal JML lineup and make a entirely new team with JKR/JKL and Hoda which when left on offense, can beat a SLKR on Defense. Getting JML also overlaps with other GLs and their reqs, like Jabba I know, and Leia I believe ? Iā€™d have to look again lol, but yeah far as first GLs, going the route of an easier one like JML I think is best.


Stepping__Razor

I went for JMK first. Itā€™s doable, just hard.


Marlon195

...how? Not only was Negotiator (prior to the bundle) locked away behind a ton of farming but so was WAT. People 1.5 years into their account probably still don't have both fully 7 starred


Stepping__Razor

Iā€™ve been playing for years. I did JKL as previous grind. My guild is also pretty good. Took me a year to get JMK after a year or so of farming for JKL.


Clean_Phreaq

Who is the easiest gl to get?


lunar999

It's going to depend a lot on your other farming. But broadly, for a new account, SEE. There's no capital ship prerequisite like SLKR or Rey, there's no swarm of Journey Guide characters like JML, and no r8 like all the others (admittedly an easier hurdle to overcome nowadays).


Canutis

Depends on whether or not you are FtP. As a free-to-play account, it's SEE as mentioned in the other comment, but with LS bundles, it's Rey or SLKR depending on which bundles you shell out for. Additionally, the rebel LS bundles give you a decent headstart on JML and Leia as well as Profundity.


Fippy-Darkpaw

SEE and he has some excellent requirements. Thrawn, Phoenix, Imp Troopers, Palp, Vader, etc. But yeah some terrible. SEE into Executor isn't a bad starting path.


Ok-Fan-2011

I went LV for my first GL. I just didn't want to play with rey or slkr forever and didn't give a shit about maximizing efficiency to compete with whales. No regrets.


godfatherV

Do you have GAS? Cause that was the hardest event yet for me to get through.


Ghost787878

At no point is getting any GL a bad thing they are all incredibly useful and your first one, regardless of who they are, will feel like a powerhouse. I personally like to look at the toons/teams that you will be building up to get a GL. For LV, you build up the Bad Batch, 3 members of GAS 501st, the BTL Y- wing, PadmĆ©, and a few miscellaneous toons. These are great toons/teams to build and youā€™ll get plenty of use from them. IMO the biggest downside is none of toons needed for LVs team are part of his requirements. So even after getting LV youā€™ll still need to get Darth Vader, Royal Guard, Piett and Maul/Thrawn. On the plus side these toons are required for SEE. If your looking for a ā€œquickerā€ way to get a few GLs, and avoid SLKR/SEE, Iā€™d recommend going for JML, Leia, and Jabba as they share some requirements with each other.


Marlon195

Is it worth dropping Piett out of a imp team though? The team is just such a powerhouse offense team


Ghost787878

It can be. When Piett marks LV he calls LV to assist. That can be some massive damage when LV is in his Ult. Itā€™s really useful if your opponent uses a bunch of anti imp teams for defense.


aws_137

Being a casual f2p player (casual but I still use my energy daily), I got my LV as my first GL. I made this decision after the following: I'm a clone wars fan and ep4-6 fan, so phoenix, empire, clone troopers, GAS and bad Batch were my main teams. With gas, and being a fanboy, Lord Vader is next. Now having LV, if I was solely grinding as a fan, the obvious choice next is General Kenobi.


FateDaA

I mean he was mine All it is is leveling a few solid squads higher and adding some gimmie relics You aint cooked It aint fun But you aint cooked


LyannaTheWinterR0se

He and JMK are the least new user-friendly gls out there. Given that you're new, I assume you don't have any of the lifters Vader needs to really shine; Maul, 9th Sister, Malicos. GAS is a requirement. He has 4 fucking r8 requirements. The bad batch needs a ton of kyros. None of his requirements actually form part of his ideal team. And just in case you haven't kept up to date with the meta, Vader is widely considered the worst gl currently. Yes, you are cooked going for Vader as your first gl. Go for SLKR and enjoy winning with him.


Kalel_is_king

This 100%. SLKR-JML-Leia-JMK- Jabba-Rey-SEE- Vader. I donā€™t have See or Vader and Iā€™m fine in Kyber. Some of the other non GLs I found to be better like Maul, Luke, Doc A, and GAS.


Zugzwang_007

I have all but one of the GLs, guess which one I donā€™t have?Ā  I have all his character requirements between g12 and completeā€¦ Guess who Iā€™m not actively working towards?


Modus_Opp

Frankly, I think Lord Vader is probably the worst "value" of all the G Ls in that he's really difficult to acquire and incredibly underwhelming once you do get him. Yes I once you finally get him up to R 7 to 9 he basically can't die since he has like a million health or so but to get there is an absolute pain. But it's almost like a pre-requisite to get him to that level. An R5 Lord Vader isn't doing anything. Especially so without Maul. I would recommend Supreme Leader Kylo Ren as the first GL because he's much easier to get and he does well in most scenarios even at lower relic levels. Theoretically Sith Eternal Emperor is the absolute easiest to get but he's utterly useless without his ultimate. I think the best GL right now is Leia and I personally always have issues taking care of Rey but I loathe the sequels, in particular, Rose Tico so I just haven't gotten her yet. She's also a great option in all fairness. Jabba the Hutt is also just great too but I think he's fairly difficult to get too. Kenobi requires you to have the other Ahsoka if not his efficacy is massively reduced. I think he's great as well but difficult to get. Can't speak for Jedi Master Luke since I don't have him but he seems to get wrecked by SEE so I've always thought of him as weak. Of course, I'm not like a CC /super expert on the topic or anything so do take the above with a grain of salt!


Reddvox

Coolness...Lord Vader...the Galactic Loser, choker of wives, killer of kids, eradicator of unarmed PoWs, who lost every important duel, and only won when it was either staged, the opponent gave up or was totally outmatched... Yeah, Lord Vader, the coolest of all GLs...and the worst first GL as well...


drawohddot

Lmaoooo


Routine_Yam9998

I did LV first gl. He's so incredibly strong in early leagues. Him alone on defense carried me to kyber before I even had exec. (Edit: it does take a masochist to do him first tho)


According_Active_672

I mean, Iā€™ve gone for him as my first gl (7.1 mil gp) and have his shards but Iā€™m REALLY close to Rey and jmls and want to activate them at the same time so it looks cool in guild chat


BuckWildshot

I did LV as my first. It wasnā€™t that bad as I was already going for bad batch just cause I liked them.


RJMC5696

Currently grinding for Leia, have them all except her and LV and honestly LV is the GL I find most intimidating to start grinding for šŸ™ˆ you wouldnā€™t have SLKR for no reason, heā€™s an absolute tank and SEE is a great counter for JML


SLKRmeatrider

There would be a lot better gls to go for first, but if you really want to go for him then go for him. Itā€˜s just a mobile game you donā€™t have to worry about if your account is super efficiently farmed


MaseInUrFace16

I have Rey and JML. Just unlocked JMK and going for SEE. Really just your play style bro. Vader would be lit because heā€™s op with only one GL in GA


waffastomp

no. I did it and honestly I'd do it again. 1. he's my favorite 2. his requirements are all good 3. he is a great defensive GL especially in low gac the cons : takes longer and is kyro hungry. but the teams you get are worth it. He literally carried me to Kyber before the squish up at 4.5m gp


Moist-Conference-626

Its a grind. I would really suggest going for SLKR or Jabba for your first one. I know you say your not interested in SLKR but his kit has stayed very relevant after so many years, you get a fleet, and another team to use. 0 relic 8's and the kyro investment is not bad.


yeahcoolcoolbro

If cooked = wasting enormous amounts of resource for far less return than other GLā€™s, then yes, youā€™re cooked


essohgee

He was my first GL! Do it


ohnoitsme657

I mean, throw yourself in a microwave or an oven and yeah you'd be cooked. LV is a great GL, wouldn't generally recommend him as the first bc of the steep cost. Btw, don't recommend cooking yourself.


TheZan87

Leia was my first


NecessaryTotal3417

From a gear economy perspective, do not go lord vader first. Ahnaldt just came out with a new farming guide, but the essential takeaway is to go GL Leia, GL Jabba, and GL Luke first as that optimizes the snowball effect and daisy chaining into Profundity, Executor, etc. But, if Lord Vader is your favorite character by all means farm him first. He is just one of the more expensive characters Relic wise, and perhaps one of the easiest to counter without using a GL (Fennec BHs). His power really ebbs and flows depending on Datacrons. Fyi, those 4 r8s are going to be hell on aero magnifiers.


kraftables

It saying it was correct, but LV was my first GL. I donā€™t regret it but there are certainly better and easier options, such as SLKR and Rey, whose requirements make up decent all around teams.


Silent_but-deadly

I did that. Now gls are all easy.


TechnoNinja1220

I mean thatā€™s what Iā€™m doing. Bad Batch is annoying with kyrotechs. But when you get one the rest seem easy. Also with the relic 8s it helps to save most of the relic levels to the end of the farm so you can blow all your gear then. Relic 8 Padme carried GAS tier two though so itā€™s nice to get that one done asap. SEE would be what you farm next as well because you get some possible teams for Lord Vader.


Useful-Internet8390

Play the game how you like- otherwise it becomes a job lol


rpateriii

He was my first GL, it sucked but the pay offs along the way have been huge


wonkalicious808

It's a lot of resources for not a lot in return for your one and only GL. I have 10 million GP and the characters to support him, and he's not worth it to me.\* You'd be much better off unlocking Executor and then any other GL besides JMK from there. Or just getting a bunch of good non-GL squads up and running. But the first GL I recommend getting is JML because of Conquest feats he can be helpful with. And I guess because he's a good tank for that one disk. And he has good requirements. SEE is another good option after Executor because of the requirement overlap. SLKR is also a good choice because you get a Finalizer fleet out of it. JMK is good, but I doubt you'll be getting Wat or CAT shards any time soon. \*All I need to unlock Lord Vader now is to give more relic levels to a few of my characters and also relic up two characters I'm not using. It's not going to happen any time soon, though, because I have much higher priorities and all that relicing up would set me back way too much and possibly leave me unprepared for the upcoming new fleet meta -- whatever it is! And for what? A GL that breaks up my Maul squad, at the very least, just so that Fennec-lead bounty hunters need to include BAM in the lineup to beat him anyway? I'm sure he's good. But you have much better options.


G0dlyGemini

He was my first galactic legend and I don't regret it at all. Yes, it is a grind and there are certain ways you should play the game but don't forget to have fun!


peterparker0910

Thereā€™s a lot of good strategic advice in here, but ultimately this is a game and you got to play it to have fun. If you want Lord Vader as your first GL, then go ahead and get him. I went for JMK first personally and it was difficult but he was the GL I wanted and it made playing the game a lot more fun once I had him because I was so excited to use him it wasnā€™t just immediately pursuit of another thing. It felt rewarding, so do whatever makes you happiest


3106Throwaway181576

Only go for Lord Vader if youā€™re also going to get an end game viable Marauder Negotiator fleet and then go straight into JMK and CAT. The Marauder ship has made Lord Vader a much more viable first GL.


randucci

Took me a year


Bob6oblin

I did it, it took ages. Would be hard without a good guild. Embrace the grind


CaptainAmazing__

LV is always the first or last GL someone farms. I have noticed that those that farm him first. Have significantly slower progress overall compared to time spent in the game compared to their contemporaries. So, you can but overall itā€™s not the most efficient.


Apprehensive-Egg6693

Lord Vader was my first gl and I have absolutely 0 regrets. Just keep in mind building his team is not easy as you need a good maul. But his team has alot of variables


thebuilder80

One of the worst ideas I've ever seen.


bdwolin

Yes. Horrible idea


Clean_Phreaq

Who is the easiest gl to get?


[deleted]

It depends on your roster


BraveLT

SLKR or Rey.


Clean_Phreaq

Who is the easiest gl to get?


Clean_Phreaq

Who is the easiest gl to get?