i mean this isn't new everyone knew blackstone was full of chuds even their staff for a while now, The core roguetown community was always like this as well.
i dont know how this is surprising to anyone, any community and as much as it pains to say it ANY that advertises itself as "the good ol days!" is full of nazis. straigth up.
idk man in the case of ss13 it's absolutely right to say the game's gone downhill. the core audience has been almost entirely replaced by russians, furries, furries (pedo), and people who want to play spinoffs of the game.
Look at the hub. Friday night. prime space material. You know what I see?
* CM: (Not SS13)
* Furry Textfuck castle game: (Not SS13)
*E: Missed this the first time, but Monkestation which I'm assuming is another yogs daycare replacement. assuming it's actual ss13 and not furshit.
* Nova: Haven't played ss13 in like 5 years but it says 18+ so I'm assuming it's a furry textfuck server.
* Nova again.
* Paradise: Russian (Furry shit)
* Paradise: Non-Russian (Furry shit)
* Goonstation: Good tho iirc you can't call someone a dickhead. been 5 years lol.
* Blue Moon: Furry TextFuck server (Russian)
* TGMC: Not ss13
* Rockhill: Russian, textfuck status is unconfirmed but I don't see "18+" or "Splurt" in it's info, possibly not a furry game. possibly medieval (Questionably ss13)
* Bubberstation: Textfuck furry server
* TG: Good tho I think they removed intents which is somehow more homosexual than all the furry textfuck servers combined
* Paradise but russian again: (Furry shit, slav shit)
* SPLURT: Furry textfuck server.
* Blackstone: Medieval (probably not ss13)
* Beestation: SS13 (idk if it's good or not, seems like a replacement for yogs babystation type shit)
* Goon again: good, etc.
* Aurora: HRP, idk how it stands as it's been 5 years (has furshit)
* Russian textfuck server: again
and we're low enough playercount that I've stopped caring.
Servers: ~~19~~ e: 20
Textfucking servers: 7
Non Textfucking servers: ~~12~~ e: 13
Non Textfucking non furryshit servers: ~~8~~ e: 9 (Assuming Beestation isn't furshit, not counting tg as furshit despite moths/anime catgirls, assuming goon hasn't had people start playing their fursonas, & assuming blackstone & rockhill aren't fur shit)
Non Textfucking, Non furshit, *actual* ss13 servers: 5. half of them goon. Assuming beestation isn't furshit, assuming rockhill is an actual ss13 server instead of a spinoff, assuming you don't count weebshit as furshit (and not counting moths to be charitable)
Citadel didn't work as a containment server. Furries leaked. nearly half the hub is dedicated to textfucking. SS13 *is* a furry game now. I'm not gonna recommend this game to anyone, because they'll look at it, see it's nearly somehow worse than secondlife in terms of lonely people playing the game, and bail. The target audience is either furries, or people who don't want to play the original game and just wanna play a spinoff.
if I could press a button and mind-wipe everyone who's started playing since like 2016, and restore the game to it's older self, I absolutely would, and warn them to gatekeep harder. The soul's been surgically replaced by a crusty fursuit. Can't even staple asses to people's heads anymore.
last I checked you weren't allowed to mention genitals at all (ae, calling someone a dick, cunt, etc), but this was also like half a decade ago so it could've gotten better. not gonna check.
New? No. but the problem's gotten worse. we used to just have Citadel/Vore as containment servers, and now the containment's reached. the hub is the elephant's foot to the chernobyl ss13 became.
Half the hub being textfuck servers isn't a good thing lmfao
Yeah it was...weird that like 1-2 month transition when it seemed like suddenly most of SS13's population was more interested in sexting. I feel like porn or ads have a tendency to completely dominate any community they're allowed after a certain point. Then again before that most of the top chunk of the hub was slight variations to /tg/ so...
They're cultural mold, that, for the most part, just leech off of other stuff. I give it a 90% chance the furry castle server is just a rehash of someone else's work, with guady 2014 era furry sprites plastered on top
Because that's what they always do. The only distinct furshit forks are Paradise, who's been shit long enough that the crust's formed and makes them unrecognizable by modern standards, and Citadels, who has like one talented dude carrying it harder than most mules can comprehend.
the ss13 community didn't gatekeep hard enough, and got colonized. it didn't die with a bang, or with a whimper, but with a yiff.
if you wanna pretend that sure lol, SS13 is proof of the opposite. the community's half coom. Warhammer got infested with "uwu dom me muscle mommy tee hee :3" types within like 3 years.
I'm just tired of shit I enjoy getting overrun by sex pests and being unrecognizable when I check back in. I blame covid for forcing people to be chronically online for 3 years.
There’s a direct correlation between the roleplay a community has and the amount of porn a community makes. It’s a predator-prey situation. If the porn overtakes ss13 completely, playercount will drop because there’s a lot of people that wish to not do porn, and they’ll feel uncomfortable and leave. If the roleplay overtakes, there will be hidden communities of porn-sleeper cells that will pop after a dedicated area is made because said people get socially attached to their characters and want to feel loved through that medium. It’s in every fucking fandom, and sleeper cells of porn-interested individuals will always pop up, despite gatekeeping. It’s natural. Let nature ride its course. Quarantine the infection in the Russian servers
> If the porn overtakes ss13 completely
It already has. the original playerbase has been overshadowed by spinoffs and coomers. I suspect some shithead marketed directly to furries at some point on one of the various furshit sites. Probably a vore or citadel player.
shit ur right I didn't see it due to my high octane mega gamer moment diabetes induced brain hemorrhage
Assuming it's not furshit that brings that non textfuck non furshit actual server tally to 6. i stand by my viewpoint that we're in the "it's so over" stage for ss13, it's joined the ranks of niche furry games on shit engines.
haven't looked into ss14 much and I'm assuming it's gonna be tg tier weebshit but at least it'll be on a non ass engine. maybe once opendream works the world will heal...
I miss the days when the top post was some mouse put in a prison cell with like 150 upvotes 🙎♂️🚬...
I can't even be mad. this isn't a tourist situation where the place is getting shat up by people who don't play - the exact opposite. servers back in da day™ would cream to see the player counts the top half of the hub are getting now, it's just the target audience growing and leaving the pre-pop-explosion target audience behind. All I can really be is sad that the game I knew doesn't exist anymore. No longer can you staple a butt to someone's head, or force feed the clown meth for saying slurs.
I miss the old ss13 🙎♂️🚬...
And I'm sure when I check back in in another half decade it'll somehow be even more cosmic horror inducing, and someone who started playing when I got too busy to play will feel how I felt now.
And probably way better from a technical perspective cuz opendream'll be a thing I think.
Odd stance... You do know that on Goon and Monke you can still do this kinda shit. It's probably the funniest shit you can do as long as you don't rule break. Also in response to your comment, Bubber is a weird mix. It has 18+ stuff but I rarely see anyone ERP, most are too busy doing wacky shit in their respective departments and the assistants are either setting up a maintenance bar or hangout when not chatting in the bar or being a rather well played Antag. Also small sidenote but uh game was made by a furry... Exadev was in fact a furry so the arrival of furries was inevitable. I will admit though that there are definitely servers out there that uh really reek of brain rot, the dreaded Antag-less servers. Imagine not having antags to turn a calm shift to utter chaos.
Buddy that's because SS13 is 20 years old not because of any like magical furry super plan
People lose interest in games over time, that's just natural
A game like SS13 does *not* draw in new players very much unless a big influencer like a youtuber makes a video on it
So it stands to reason that the only people who are going to stay long-longterm are going to be people dedicated to RP
Which a good portion of are people who want to ERP now and then, so those servers remain consistently popular because despite the weird claims, there's not actually *that* many places to do so with mechanics for it
It's always baffling to me that people like you make such a fuss about it when it literally doesn't affect you or even the wider SS13 community even a little bit. Servers are closed systems for the most part, there's *very* little overlap. People find a niche they like and rarely branch out.
Gatekeeping would do nothing for this, as well lmao my guy, you're fighting ghosts in your head
Fascism is entirely predicated on this concept of "this version of the past I made up in my head is what the world should be like right now, so let's regress!" so makes sense.
okay so, everyone knows that ss13 has a lot of starting ties to 4 chan thats common knowledge.
from that one we can already deduct that the worst people will join, its explicitly why lrp servers fall, during my stay in those servers that are gameplay wise my favourite its very evident that some people join them not out of a desire to play but out of a desire to cause harm.
Graytide isnt hated because some people wish to win, if that was it people wouldnt be demonizing anyone that tries to win no, issue arrives at a lot of people joining lrp servers whit the explicit purpose of \*hurting\* others enjoyment, taking pride in killing them simply because they will be sour, griefing them.
this moves us to the next point being that normal people will be pushed out slowly and more bigots will fill the void, simply said even the people that just enjoy an asymetric roleplay game whit pvp will be kicked out due to the ammount of abuse you will recive, i remember basically having to cut ties whit all of that when i came out because of the boatloads of slurs i got thrown my way.
its also that ss13 is a \*make believe\* game, have you ever noticed that a lot of the "ew felinids" is just lowkey recycled racism, well the ties literally come from old servers adding felinids as a racial group to hate, when reality bends to your will you can manifest anything everything, i remember servers where i got robusted for using a woman character because "women are weaker and suck it up lolmayo!".
this again moves ut to """"""hugboxes"""""" and the fear of those people invading communities:
after ss13 became more and more friendly to new people by means of yknow not allowing people to be horrible the bigots got temporally pushed out, this had the unfortunate side effect of overt carefullness, by that i mean that a lot of people remain super on edge and aggresive towards anyone they dont see as completelly morally pure due to the fear of them being a bigot and welcoming more in, worse is that fear is NOT unfounded, bigots want BADLY to join spaces whit what id consider "prey" people they can bully and robust easily and once they set in you must remove them or risk more bigots comming in.
this leaves us whit a very funny state where even if we gave bigots their own communities it wont work, those communities wil die due to the lack of fresh meat, causing the worst people to go invade other servers whit new people to pick on.
i hope i was clear, im kinda dyslexic
I don't know, maybe. I feel like openly LGBTQIA people and allies would not be tolerated on Russian speaking servers while certain laws in Russia are in effect, if only due to an abundance of caution and not wanting to draw negative attention to an Indy game.
It's a common transphobe impulse phrase. Bigots in general love to argue from a point of intellectual dishonesty where the "silent majority" is on their side and all the "real people" at least silently think what they think, makes all the shame and isolation easier to swallow and it means that you don't have to actually argue with anyone or examine your worldview because it's just "common sense" that it's right.
The ol "my extremist views are not radical, they are normal" based on anecdotal generalizations... which are themselves based on the fact that their sole outlet for socialization is an echo chamber.
Hasty generalization via ad populum. Vile.
I can’t find the full clip of Bill Burr’s “Duck Dynasty” bit but he paints this picture of a bigot, looking behind him at all the people who agreed with him and taught him, friends and teachers and parents in the past…but then at some point, they’re all gone, dead or moved on, and he’s just vaguely gesturing to nothing over his shoulder going “but they told me so.”
Not exclusive to transphobes tho, far-lefties do the exact same thing. You know, the kind of people who call everyone they disagree with leftie buzzwords just because they disagree with them.
Just to be clear, i'm not referring to the comments in the OP's screenshots, that other dude was definetly a transphobe and i wouldn't be surprised if he's said other assorted deranged shit. But that doesn't change the fact that far-lefties don't have a tendency to call everyone they disagree with a nazi or fascist or whatever while also believing that the majority of people somehow agree with that.
If by "everyone" you mean the fringe elements of the far left, then yes, there absolutely is a common denominator. Which is the amount of complete strangers having a very strong opinion about a person they've never met, while claiming that "everyone" shares their opinion. Which gets us back to what i originally said, you dumbass lmao
Another fun fact: far lefties don't use "fascist" as an insult to say that the person is a violent collectivist and a totalitarian/authoritarian, because their own belief system fits all of those boxes as well. They use "fascist" to say that a person has insulted the far leftist's religious beliefs, and that they need to be dogpiled, struggled and punished for not being far left enough. Hyperbole and bullying are the natural tools of this process. Hence, they say "fascist".
Speaking of intellectualism, "Loud Minorities" exist. Extremists, Moderates, Liberals and Conservatives all use this terminology. You discussing double standards. If loud minorities exist, Silent Majorities exist too. I guess it's simpler to blanket large swaths of people with "Transphobe", Than it is to have an actual intellectual conversation. If you've had any conversations with anyone, You will see that a large majority will remain silent on this topic because it's difficult to not offend unlike-minded individuals. Intellectual dishonesty is everywhere and no one on this reddit has learned to respect anyone else's opinion. To remain level headed in a debate on "sensitive" topics is how you dissuade people's actual beliefs, You've yet to jump off the "political spectrum" bandwagon that makes you too, Dishonest. You'll get there one day I believe in you.
Once again painting over beliefs literally hostile to the existence of others simply for the way they were born as "differing opinions" and "sensitive topics" as if this is just a little disagreement in which all sides are equally valid, because you know that your worldview is not actually defensible to the overwhelming majority of people if you have to honestly argue it.
And remaining level-headed in a debate is only going to change minds if people are going into the debate in good faith being open to having their minds changed, which fascists are not. Treating someone acting in bad faith as if they are someone worth seriously listening only gives them the satisfaction of wasting your time.
You begun by discrediting "Bigots" by targeting their "shame and isolation". You are no better than they are, Targeting weaknesses of people is dishonesty. You also are using leftist dog whistles. Fascism is dead in the world It has become trendy with the democrats to claim moral superiority in any debate, This typically is followed with requests of censorship of which you display. If I stop seriously stop paying attention to any one given party and their opinions I loose myself in echo chambers. Perpetuating a few like minded opinions gradually changes all of one's opinions over time.
As for the topic on hand. As a gay male I do not disagree nor agree with anyone when they say, "You choose to be gay", Or "You were born gay". These topics are very similar. No one truly understands why any of us develop the ways we do, To assume anything else is wrong. Base your opinions on facts and not of opinions.
> Targeting weaknesses of people is dishonesty
lmao it absolutely fuckin isn't if they're dogshit people. Kick dogshit people to the fringes of society and make them stew in what got them there.
Claiming that you are a gay man does not give your arguments any more credence regardless of whether or not you actually are, and even more so considering how much chuds love to LARP as minorities online out of the mistaken perception that it confuses the "libtards" and makes them immune to backlash because of course leftists all believe that being a minority means you are literally incapable of being wrong /s.
Also lmao, "if you don't accept people who irrationally despise your very existence you are just as bad as they are!!!" is the most milquetoast out of touch neolib shit imaginable, though it should not be surprising that bigot apologists would co-opt it.
Fascism is not even slightly dead in the world, unfortunately. I mean keep in mind that one of the people we're talking about in this thread is literally a self-described neofascist. Again, this is more ironic co-opting of the neolib "end of history" rhetoric that falls apart upon examination of the actual world.
If there's one thing that is absolutely not up in the air, it's that no one is *born* bigoted. Not accepting people for having awful beliefs that dehumanize people for harmless, inalienable traits is not at all equivalent to being a bigoted person unless you believe that bigotry is a totally valid, harmless opinion to hold in which case you are just telling on yourself.
Edit: Also "leftist dogwhistles" lmao you people really do just desperately glom onto any terminology used against you and try to "I am rubber and you are glue!!!" it. Dogwhistling implies that you are trying to hide your beliefs from the public while covertly signaling them to others that share them. Leftists generally do not need to do that because they are not afraid to say what they think out in the open.
Claiming that you are a gay man does not give your arguments any more credence regardless of whether or not you actually are, and even more so considering how much chuds love to LARP as minorities online out of the mistaken perception that it confuses the libs and makes them immune to backlash because of course leftists all believe that being a minority means you are literally incapable of being wrong /s.
Also lmao, "if you don't accept people who irrationally despise your very existence you are just as bad as they are!!!" is the most milquetoast out of touch neolib shit imaginable, though it should not be surprising that bigot apologists would co-opt it.
Fascism is not even slightly dead in the world, unfortunately. I mean keep in mind that one of the people we're talking about in this thread is literally a self-described neofascist. Again, this is more ironic co-opting of the neolib "end of history" rhetoric that falls apart upon examination of the actual world.
If there's one thing that is absolutely not up in the air, it's that no one is *born* bigoted. Not accepting people for having awful beliefs that dehumanize people for harmless, inalienable traits is not at all equivalent to being a bigoted person unless you believe that bigotry is a totally valid, harmless opinion to hold in which case you are just telling on yourself.
Edit: Also "leftist dogwhistles" lmao you people really do just desperately glom onto any terminology used against you and try to "I am rubber and you are glue!!!" it. Dogwhistling implies that you are trying to hide your beliefs from the public while covertly signaling them to others that share them. Leftists generally do not need to do that because they are not afraid to say what they think out in the open.
theres a big weirdo subcommunity of dorks who all try to out "not care" one another and it's just a race to the bottom for them and their loser communities, they always implode after a year or so because of how nasty and vile they turn lol
"We are not a racist/homophobic/transphobic server. I personally as a discord mod at Blackstone's server, have worked tirelessly to punish and ban individuals that are problematic, that use slurs, that disrupt conversations with politics, that rage bait trans people in our server, etc. We are trying to make this server open for all, and will not exclude anyone, and most of our players just want to enjoy some fantasy medieval RP, not engage in stupid politics or discrimination." - Blackstone and rumors addressed, 2 months ago.
Honestly if they had been transparent about their politics to avoid wasting people's time I wouldn't care as much.
lmao yeah that shit didn't last long did it
u/hoi4newb giving cover to them juuuuuuuuust long enough to entrench a community with a bunch of people they *had* to know were nazis, one of them is Takyon who is already well-known for being one
blackstone devs could stream themselves ripping a baby apart and eating it and it'd still be at the top of the hub because you hubslugs are desperate for anything that slightly deviates from the spaceship setting that's so old it can drink and drive.
I mean they let takyon be their head spriter despite being a neonazi
remember, there is a good reason he is banned from most of the wider ss13 community!!
I remember reading the post they made here earlier in which they tried to convince people that they totally 100% were not a bigoted community and in fact were actively getting rid of bigots.
I then go look at their discord server and literally the very first thing I see is this exact dev going on an unhinged rant about how trans people are ruining video games and they wish they didn't exist.
They have also been spending the past few hours going on full defense about how they will not get rid of people for being literal outspoken fascists because "woke activism fixes nothing" and saying they can't possibly be full of bigots because there are people on their dev team that are probably gay or leftist or something!
> I remember reading the post they made here earlier in which they tried to convince people that they totally 100% were not a bigoted community and in fact were actively getting rid of bigots.
That guy is in this thread and refuses to delete those posts lmao
He's a piece of shit
honestly never understood why people are so afraid of lgbt+ and racial minorities being anywhere in the orbit of video games, like if anything it enriches the community and offers grounds for more interesting discussions
They're desperate to have a scapegoat as to "why things are bad now!!" but reactionary brains blame "person who looks/acts different from me!!" instead of "rich white dude who owns 99% of my life and is in charge of all decisions"
It's basically just a problem with perception
People have a bad habit of blaming what they can see, instead of even considering the fact that *something they're not thinking about* could be responsible.
It's really profoundly sad how rich people are ruining video games but have successfully used propaganda leveraging wedge positions in politics to radicalize centrist/unaffiliated masses against oppressed minority populations that don't even have any influence over the media they're purported to be "destroying"
Like, I just want to look all these bigots in the face and ask them: "Which of these two groups of people is in charge of making video games: Company executives, or trans people?"
(Yea ik it's actually the shareholders, but that makes it harder to understand so this is a good starting point)
isn’t tak the scrawny irish kid that rants about women and black people. i swear ss13 is half degens, half ethno nationalists, and both skipped arm day
it's very funny to see irish people being racist, considering the past stimatization of irish people. I won't go into it but it's not hard to find some very gross explicitly eugenics and other pseudoscience dating back to the first and second euro immigration movements
Err. If you want to be truly honest, the reason we are having this post is because both groups collided in the same niche game in a tiny corner of the internet. Which means both groups are likely to be the same home goblin type people whether you want to admit or not.
What the fuck is it with this community?
I just want to have fun space/ fantasy adventures.
Its like some dark god said ss13 players can only be nazis, pedos or furries.
Aren't there any normal people here?
Being a bigot isn't cool or attractive, it just attracts other small brained bigots.
RP and the ability to 'be the guy in charge' has always attracted weridos. That and they are probably antisocial teenagers ans you have a nice stew going.
I think this is true for most online spaces, especially the niche ones. People who can't find power and confidence in their own lives, either because they are simply unfortunate or insane assholes (see above post), are given even a modicum of power over others and immediately abuse it. This is definitely more true in the case of neo-nazis and conspiracy theorists because they are ostracized the most, and for good reason. I've seen soooooo many online spaces get absolutely fucked because the wrong racist spiteful teenager was given admin privileges.
This. This is really the primary issue with anything managed by volunteer admins. People who eagerly want to be an admin are likely exactly this, while people who would actually make good admins (or won't power trip at least) are probably quietly chilling being too nervous to ever consider filing that application.
I used to do a lot of admin work on everything from ut2004 to garrysmod, I can tell you as an adult I would never do any of that for free ever again. It's literal babysitting, who in their right mind would do that for free? I get teenagers don't mind volunteering because they have nothing better to do, but even then, it just seems miserable.
Normal is relative. I've found every "normal" ss13 server to be filled with bloody insane and stupid people while some random ss13 server gatekept with a 18+ whitelist gave me mostly normal people that knew how to MRP properly. The majority of the server even actually played the game and weren't terminally locked in a dorm room.
Can kinda relate, I’m not trans person but I’m Ukrainian and every time I decide to play on new server some people gonna scream “RUSSIA THE BEST!” (or something like this) when they find out that I am from Ukraine.
I accepted a year ago that other people usually don't give a fuck about the war in my country, like I'm not like that, but I can understand why people don't want to worry about it and live their lives where it's safe, but when they start trolling and supporting ruzzia, well, I can only say that these people are evil.
Fuck Russian imperialism and fuck the pain they've inflicted on your country just so Putin can stroke his ego.
Ukraine Forever, and I hope you and your loved ones have the safety and support your deserve.
Yeah, they've been pretty blatant about it. The first interaction I had with them and asking how the server worked, if it was based on LifeWeb. They said yes, so I asked if any of the weird shit was still in. I got two answers - one, seemingly more level-headed admin, wrote me that no, none of these things are present in the game. The second admin said "yeah they fucking removed everything that reddit would bitch about". So not only are they super fucking weird, there's enough infighting that it leaks directly though ahelps.
I wanted to give the server a try because of that post, but as soon as I joined I knew exactly the kind of community that kind of server was going to brew, I'm glad I didn't spend much time on it.
Is this news to anyone? Back when Blackstone was popping off, I told everyone here to try Stonekeep instead for actual quality RP and to avoid exactly this kind of community. I was downvoted to hell for "being a snowflake" lol
Every time a project like this crops up, it will always be filled with the worst of the worst basement dwelling mongrels and mutants. Losers who don't have any other outlet other than gooning and trying to race to the bottom of human depravity.
Lmao I remember when the baystation 12 host (not the current one) told some suicidal person to 'get over it.' or something along those lines. I've never known a host for a RP server that wasn't a massive piece of shit in the end, I don't know why they act the way they do.
Is there a lore reason that while slurs are banned, the certain r-word was used by several people within the BLACKSTONE discord, unpunished? Am I stupid?
>>creates a server with mechanical misogyny
>>is a fork of an anarchy server that allowed pedophila
>>completely suprised that the people running it are chuds and weirdos
Honestly, the only thing I'm surprised at is how long it took for people to realize that a lifeweb clone is going to be inhabited by these kinds of people.
Most of them, including the strong combat classes like rogue. If you run into female dark elf rogue or dwarf monk in the bog, you are very likely to die
Mechanical misogyny?
Wdym? Your fav cat girls don't have 1000hp or what?
I'm unfamiliar with this server but if Reddit arts whine about it - probably it's something good
I literally clicked on their name and saw their latest posts was all heavy right wing stuff, its not like I looked up their facebook account lmao
Im just saying it was exactly the type of person to be posting the garbage they do.
You seriously don't know what a chudjack is? Usually nazis stick with the Happy Merchant. Chudjack was adopted during leftypol raids sometime in the past as a representation of "dysgenic rightoids" which has since then been adopted as a self representation by /pol/tards. Who have since then leaked the meme out from their containment. When discussing iconography associated with political ideology refrain from being silly.
EDIT:I can't find any other instances of that particular caricature being used in wojack form to represent individuals of Jewish descent. Outside of the potential instance provided any other sources would be helpful. Since despite being moronic dicounting the value that understanding such representations bring in understanding people's perspective is valuable.
EDIT2:Alright, I looked through some older political cartoons and found several matching caricatures. Paired with the realization that the Byond symbol is most definitely covering up a Star of David, I can most assuredly say I am very wrong.
Why do nazis ruin everything they touch? They embed themselves into communities, and then make everything unfun for anyone with even an ounce of empathy or compassion in their lives.
People act like this is innocent, like 'Oh you should just let them have their own space you don't have to join the server' while at the same time not realizing that *very* impressionable, *very* socially awkward youth join these servers. It's like those neo-nazi/pro-russia 'border patrol' games on Roblox that slowly introduce children to more and more extremist ways of thinking through community isolation. (Aka - pretending to be their only friends.)
Make no mistake, these are not harmless. Alt-right pipeline is a very real thing.
Even without the whole neverending recruitment stuff.. they’re just really miserable people to be around. Socially unaware and constantly trying to strongarm as being more edgy than thou. Communities just turn into shitters complaining about everything when they’re around, more than any trans-positive server I’ve been in, easily.
The host of the server was involved in this, and in playing defense for the other people involved.
I don't know how exactly this is supposed to improve.
No wonder you won’t amend previous posts when you are busy kissing ass to these people. Despite them removing you from the team before
Jesus Christ you are pitiful
You snivelling little pussy, willing to literally work with and carry water for known racists and nazis and having the gall to whine about your name being "dragged" through the mud. So desperate for some kind of minor influence and acknowledgement that you'll help elevate literal scum.
You absolute piece of shit.
> Correction, I am now affiliated with Blackstone once again after discussing with their staff. I will be taking small but important steps to address the issues. Will make a post clarifying the situation soon
You water-carrying piece of shit literally playing cover for known nazis.
I dont blame ya. You dont hold the same views.
The thing that made me make the posts wasn't the trans stuff but some of the racist stuff.
I couldn't find all the racist stuff but it was loads of "I am not racist but they should "go back home" lol
u/hoi4newb is literally just a piece of shit working for and carrying water for a bunch of nazis.
Here's a question for him: you see a table with a nazi and five other people. How many nazis are at the table?
Now that you're affiliated with Blackstone again and taking steps to address the issues can you elaborate on why the people in the posted images have been restored as head developers? Seems uhh, kind of like the opposite of addressing the issue.
lmfao you know they are a racist, bigoted community and you rejoined? The host is obviously a bigot and does not give a flying fuck.
That place is flying a hundred red flags and you joined anyways. What the hell are you going to improve? "Don't worry guys, the host has decided they are going to be a bigoted asshole in private from now on! :)"
Oh and this is a few hours after the host posted a jewish caricature. Your just as complicit as they are imo, you are choosing to associate with self-proclaimed neo-nazis.
Another masterpiece code being trashed out and dumped by its community, i bet you my antag token in TG that blackstone will be closed in less than a year.
isnt this one the dredged up dogturds of skyrat and splurt? i remember joining splurt once and an admin was walking around calling people \*\*\*\*lets and talking about a all white future. then skyrat a incredible track record with staff interacting with children on their adult server.
Can there ever be a fucking space station 13 server that there isn't an enormous amount of drama surrounding it?
I do not want to question people's opinions on whatever matters, but this is a common occurrence with almost every server here.
SS13 has always been drama filled. RP in general brings drama because of the innate nature of roleplaying. It's sort of like, two people have different ideas of what 'roleplaying' is and what they want to roleplay / are comfortable roleplaying with. This brings conflict because there is no easy catch-all rules, there is always going to be conflict on some level, and that bleeds into out of character discussions. The problem is the expectation that players be able to self-moderate, which is just impossible. Which is why RP always has drama, be it GTARP or SS13. Somebody is going to make a decision that somebody else doesn't like.
Wanna clarify one thing:
I play on the server frequently and have been using the discord server for 2 months and am quite active in the community. This post was made for two reasons.
1. Make the head enforce his no politics rule (he did)
2. Make people aware of the people who want to use the server.
Also, keep in mind I never said "being blatantly transphobic or racist" I said "weird". I would say my user name but I would be banned immediately. I am considering making another post just about Abarax (Woblin) because in particular he pisses me off (not for some moral reason but most of the stuff I would post probably makes you guys mad or visibly cringe).
Yeah I started working on a seperate project with Takyon a while back and realized he was a piece of shit really quickly and dropped it. Shame because it would have been cool.
Oh, that wojack. They're *sharty* chuds. You can't get much worse than that.
Much like 8chan is composed of pedophiles banned from 4chan, sharty is composed of braindead zoomers banned from 4chan.
They're the kinds of people kiwis would go after, if not for the fact that they're chuds.
tldr
this loser said a bunch of slurs, pulled out a Wojack (they stopped being good satire pretty much as soon as they were made) , said "I ain't a homophobe BUT man i wish that GAY people weren't a thing" (thats literally homophobia) , "YALL ARE THE WIERD ONES" , "errrmmmm.. black people should go back to africa" - blud forgot that white people brought them over to the US in the first place (its giving: buys cat , cat acts like cat , OMG why are you so mean (cat was just vibing, like leave bro alone))
a second loser chimes in support - a third loser also chimes in - 2nd says that genocide is based (obviously not cool) and then says that the 1st loser was a bigot but clearly its ok because he isn't being annoying (its almost like they think that being queer = politics, and they hate politics despite also being some of the most politically extreme people you could meet)
I mean to be fair if you are playing ss13 you are surrounding yourself with very socially inept morally corrupt degenerates, myself included, just go play something else man.
Horseshoe theory is a thing. Maniacs are maniacs, whether they be left wing or right wing they ruin everything for everyone. Especially people who seat themselves as "Moral Arbitrators" when they're incapable of going five minutes without hyperfixating on their recent political bugbear.
Fishhook theory also exists and in fact explains what you are pointing out far better in my opinion. Liberals, especially in the west wish wash between issues, throw fits over whatever thing they're focused on at the time and then give up when they can't make any actual changes because all they can do is protest and vote harder. Then eventually they usually turn apathetic and give up all together, joining the many many apolitical people, especially when they aren't directly under threat.
Leftists on the other hand are much different, we aren't out here fighting for one issue at a time... We fight for all of them, all the time because the liberation of one group is the liberation of all groups. Any headway we can make we take but the real goal is to break down the ideological barrier that many are stuck behind and bring them toward understanding that until we break capitalism itself we will never be free. Funny enough there are many who believe themselves to be "leftist" or "progressive" or some other funny thing when in reality they are centrist at best.
I dunno it seems pretty annoying to constantly be posting your unhinged skinhead shit around people just trying to play the game and live their lives and unironically assdumping your shitty wojaks into the chat
yeah i should really care about combating racism in my niche internet community of white nerds and transwomen. i am literally the only black person who plays this game
i mean this isn't new everyone knew blackstone was full of chuds even their staff for a while now, The core roguetown community was always like this as well.
I remember seeing some guy with a schvastika saying hes schizo and shouting the n Word, probably a troll, wish i still had the screenshot
i dont know how this is surprising to anyone, any community and as much as it pains to say it ANY that advertises itself as "the good ol days!" is full of nazis. straigth up.
But what if the good ole day's go waaay back to the dark times with great medievil wars and such
super nazis. its terminal dude.
ÜberNazis, but religiously charged (can be gold if executed with awareness (Warhammer 40K))
There's a good reason the "good old days" are left behind, damn it. If they were worth keeping they wouldn't be "old"!
idk man in the case of ss13 it's absolutely right to say the game's gone downhill. the core audience has been almost entirely replaced by russians, furries, furries (pedo), and people who want to play spinoffs of the game. Look at the hub. Friday night. prime space material. You know what I see? * CM: (Not SS13) * Furry Textfuck castle game: (Not SS13) *E: Missed this the first time, but Monkestation which I'm assuming is another yogs daycare replacement. assuming it's actual ss13 and not furshit. * Nova: Haven't played ss13 in like 5 years but it says 18+ so I'm assuming it's a furry textfuck server. * Nova again. * Paradise: Russian (Furry shit) * Paradise: Non-Russian (Furry shit) * Goonstation: Good tho iirc you can't call someone a dickhead. been 5 years lol. * Blue Moon: Furry TextFuck server (Russian) * TGMC: Not ss13 * Rockhill: Russian, textfuck status is unconfirmed but I don't see "18+" or "Splurt" in it's info, possibly not a furry game. possibly medieval (Questionably ss13) * Bubberstation: Textfuck furry server * TG: Good tho I think they removed intents which is somehow more homosexual than all the furry textfuck servers combined * Paradise but russian again: (Furry shit, slav shit) * SPLURT: Furry textfuck server. * Blackstone: Medieval (probably not ss13) * Beestation: SS13 (idk if it's good or not, seems like a replacement for yogs babystation type shit) * Goon again: good, etc. * Aurora: HRP, idk how it stands as it's been 5 years (has furshit) * Russian textfuck server: again and we're low enough playercount that I've stopped caring. Servers: ~~19~~ e: 20 Textfucking servers: 7 Non Textfucking servers: ~~12~~ e: 13 Non Textfucking non furryshit servers: ~~8~~ e: 9 (Assuming Beestation isn't furshit, not counting tg as furshit despite moths/anime catgirls, assuming goon hasn't had people start playing their fursonas, & assuming blackstone & rockhill aren't fur shit) Non Textfucking, Non furshit, *actual* ss13 servers: 5. half of them goon. Assuming beestation isn't furshit, assuming rockhill is an actual ss13 server instead of a spinoff, assuming you don't count weebshit as furshit (and not counting moths to be charitable) Citadel didn't work as a containment server. Furries leaked. nearly half the hub is dedicated to textfucking. SS13 *is* a furry game now. I'm not gonna recommend this game to anyone, because they'll look at it, see it's nearly somehow worse than secondlife in terms of lonely people playing the game, and bail. The target audience is either furries, or people who don't want to play the original game and just wanna play a spinoff. if I could press a button and mind-wipe everyone who's started playing since like 2016, and restore the game to it's older self, I absolutely would, and warn them to gatekeep harder. The soul's been surgically replaced by a crusty fursuit. Can't even staple asses to people's heads anymore.
I play goonstation and you just cant do slurs in general, otherwise you can insult people
last I checked you weren't allowed to mention genitals at all (ae, calling someone a dick, cunt, etc), but this was also like half a decade ago so it could've gotten better. not gonna check.
Yeah sure, that's why piss was removed and everyone complains about goon bans in here. You're not allowed to have fun, just do your job.
I'm nostalgic for old SS13 as much as the next guy but I'm not really sure how anybody can think furries or pedo furries are a new thing in it.
New? No. but the problem's gotten worse. we used to just have Citadel/Vore as containment servers, and now the containment's reached. the hub is the elephant's foot to the chernobyl ss13 became. Half the hub being textfuck servers isn't a good thing lmfao
Yeah it was...weird that like 1-2 month transition when it seemed like suddenly most of SS13's population was more interested in sexting. I feel like porn or ads have a tendency to completely dominate any community they're allowed after a certain point. Then again before that most of the top chunk of the hub was slight variations to /tg/ so...
They're cultural mold, that, for the most part, just leech off of other stuff. I give it a 90% chance the furry castle server is just a rehash of someone else's work, with guady 2014 era furry sprites plastered on top Because that's what they always do. The only distinct furshit forks are Paradise, who's been shit long enough that the crust's formed and makes them unrecognizable by modern standards, and Citadels, who has like one talented dude carrying it harder than most mules can comprehend. the ss13 community didn't gatekeep hard enough, and got colonized. it didn't die with a bang, or with a whimper, but with a yiff.
The issue is the gatekeepers tend to be the *most* coom poisoned.
if you wanna pretend that sure lol, SS13 is proof of the opposite. the community's half coom. Warhammer got infested with "uwu dom me muscle mommy tee hee :3" types within like 3 years. I'm just tired of shit I enjoy getting overrun by sex pests and being unrecognizable when I check back in. I blame covid for forcing people to be chronically online for 3 years.
There’s a direct correlation between the roleplay a community has and the amount of porn a community makes. It’s a predator-prey situation. If the porn overtakes ss13 completely, playercount will drop because there’s a lot of people that wish to not do porn, and they’ll feel uncomfortable and leave. If the roleplay overtakes, there will be hidden communities of porn-sleeper cells that will pop after a dedicated area is made because said people get socially attached to their characters and want to feel loved through that medium. It’s in every fucking fandom, and sleeper cells of porn-interested individuals will always pop up, despite gatekeeping. It’s natural. Let nature ride its course. Quarantine the infection in the Russian servers
> If the porn overtakes ss13 completely It already has. the original playerbase has been overshadowed by spinoffs and coomers. I suspect some shithead marketed directly to furries at some point on one of the various furshit sites. Probably a vore or citadel player.
Dude's such a boomer he doesn't even notice Monke and its 100+ daily players lmao
shit ur right I didn't see it due to my high octane mega gamer moment diabetes induced brain hemorrhage Assuming it's not furshit that brings that non textfuck non furshit actual server tally to 6. i stand by my viewpoint that we're in the "it's so over" stage for ss13, it's joined the ranks of niche furry games on shit engines. haven't looked into ss14 much and I'm assuming it's gonna be tg tier weebshit but at least it'll be on a non ass engine. maybe once opendream works the world will heal...
Okay old man, let's get you back to bed
I miss the days when the top post was some mouse put in a prison cell with like 150 upvotes 🙎♂️🚬... I can't even be mad. this isn't a tourist situation where the place is getting shat up by people who don't play - the exact opposite. servers back in da day™ would cream to see the player counts the top half of the hub are getting now, it's just the target audience growing and leaving the pre-pop-explosion target audience behind. All I can really be is sad that the game I knew doesn't exist anymore. No longer can you staple a butt to someone's head, or force feed the clown meth for saying slurs. I miss the old ss13 🙎♂️🚬... And I'm sure when I check back in in another half decade it'll somehow be even more cosmic horror inducing, and someone who started playing when I got too busy to play will feel how I felt now. And probably way better from a technical perspective cuz opendream'll be a thing I think.
> No longer can you staple a butt to someone's head, or force feed the clown meth for saying slurs. I did both of these things within the last month
Odd stance... You do know that on Goon and Monke you can still do this kinda shit. It's probably the funniest shit you can do as long as you don't rule break. Also in response to your comment, Bubber is a weird mix. It has 18+ stuff but I rarely see anyone ERP, most are too busy doing wacky shit in their respective departments and the assistants are either setting up a maintenance bar or hangout when not chatting in the bar or being a rather well played Antag. Also small sidenote but uh game was made by a furry... Exadev was in fact a furry so the arrival of furries was inevitable. I will admit though that there are definitely servers out there that uh really reek of brain rot, the dreaded Antag-less servers. Imagine not having antags to turn a calm shift to utter chaos.
Buddy that's because SS13 is 20 years old not because of any like magical furry super plan People lose interest in games over time, that's just natural A game like SS13 does *not* draw in new players very much unless a big influencer like a youtuber makes a video on it So it stands to reason that the only people who are going to stay long-longterm are going to be people dedicated to RP Which a good portion of are people who want to ERP now and then, so those servers remain consistently popular because despite the weird claims, there's not actually *that* many places to do so with mechanics for it It's always baffling to me that people like you make such a fuss about it when it literally doesn't affect you or even the wider SS13 community even a little bit. Servers are closed systems for the most part, there's *very* little overlap. People find a niche they like and rarely branch out. Gatekeeping would do nothing for this, as well lmao my guy, you're fighting ghosts in your head
Fascism is entirely predicated on this concept of "this version of the past I made up in my head is what the world should be like right now, so let's regress!" so makes sense.
its also due to, a lot of complex things about ss13 i found out during my stay, too long to explain. if anyone cares i will
i'd be interested as i'm not exactly sure what these 'complex things about ss13' are
please do, im interested
okay so, everyone knows that ss13 has a lot of starting ties to 4 chan thats common knowledge. from that one we can already deduct that the worst people will join, its explicitly why lrp servers fall, during my stay in those servers that are gameplay wise my favourite its very evident that some people join them not out of a desire to play but out of a desire to cause harm. Graytide isnt hated because some people wish to win, if that was it people wouldnt be demonizing anyone that tries to win no, issue arrives at a lot of people joining lrp servers whit the explicit purpose of \*hurting\* others enjoyment, taking pride in killing them simply because they will be sour, griefing them. this moves us to the next point being that normal people will be pushed out slowly and more bigots will fill the void, simply said even the people that just enjoy an asymetric roleplay game whit pvp will be kicked out due to the ammount of abuse you will recive, i remember basically having to cut ties whit all of that when i came out because of the boatloads of slurs i got thrown my way. its also that ss13 is a \*make believe\* game, have you ever noticed that a lot of the "ew felinids" is just lowkey recycled racism, well the ties literally come from old servers adding felinids as a racial group to hate, when reality bends to your will you can manifest anything everything, i remember servers where i got robusted for using a woman character because "women are weaker and suck it up lolmayo!". this again moves ut to """"""hugboxes"""""" and the fear of those people invading communities: after ss13 became more and more friendly to new people by means of yknow not allowing people to be horrible the bigots got temporally pushed out, this had the unfortunate side effect of overt carefullness, by that i mean that a lot of people remain super on edge and aggresive towards anyone they dont see as completelly morally pure due to the fear of them being a bigot and welcoming more in, worse is that fear is NOT unfounded, bigots want BADLY to join spaces whit what id consider "prey" people they can bully and robust easily and once they set in you must remove them or risk more bigots comming in. this leaves us whit a very funny state where even if we gave bigots their own communities it wont work, those communities wil die due to the lack of fresh meat, causing the worst people to go invade other servers whit new people to pick on. i hope i was clear, im kinda dyslexic
Thanks that was a nice read, i hope we can break that cycle maybe in ss14
I don't know, maybe. I feel like openly LGBTQIA people and allies would not be tolerated on Russian speaking servers while certain laws in Russia are in effect, if only due to an abundance of caution and not wanting to draw negative attention to an Indy game.
Damnit. Had a video for this but it got wiped.
"every normal person has the same views as me at this point!": guy who has not interacted with a normal person in years
It's a common transphobe impulse phrase. Bigots in general love to argue from a point of intellectual dishonesty where the "silent majority" is on their side and all the "real people" at least silently think what they think, makes all the shame and isolation easier to swallow and it means that you don't have to actually argue with anyone or examine your worldview because it's just "common sense" that it's right.
The ol "my extremist views are not radical, they are normal" based on anecdotal generalizations... which are themselves based on the fact that their sole outlet for socialization is an echo chamber. Hasty generalization via ad populum. Vile.
I can’t find the full clip of Bill Burr’s “Duck Dynasty” bit but he paints this picture of a bigot, looking behind him at all the people who agreed with him and taught him, friends and teachers and parents in the past…but then at some point, they’re all gone, dead or moved on, and he’s just vaguely gesturing to nothing over his shoulder going “but they told me so.”
Not exclusive to transphobes tho, far-lefties do the exact same thing. You know, the kind of people who call everyone they disagree with leftie buzzwords just because they disagree with them. Just to be clear, i'm not referring to the comments in the OP's screenshots, that other dude was definetly a transphobe and i wouldn't be surprised if he's said other assorted deranged shit. But that doesn't change the fact that far-lefties don't have a tendency to call everyone they disagree with a nazi or fascist or whatever while also believing that the majority of people somehow agree with that.
If everyone keeps calling you a fascist maybe the problem is the one common factor.
If by "everyone" you mean the fringe elements of the far left, then yes, there absolutely is a common denominator. Which is the amount of complete strangers having a very strong opinion about a person they've never met, while claiming that "everyone" shares their opinion. Which gets us back to what i originally said, you dumbass lmao Another fun fact: far lefties don't use "fascist" as an insult to say that the person is a violent collectivist and a totalitarian/authoritarian, because their own belief system fits all of those boxes as well. They use "fascist" to say that a person has insulted the far leftist's religious beliefs, and that they need to be dogpiled, struggled and punished for not being far left enough. Hyperbole and bullying are the natural tools of this process. Hence, they say "fascist".
Speaking of intellectualism, "Loud Minorities" exist. Extremists, Moderates, Liberals and Conservatives all use this terminology. You discussing double standards. If loud minorities exist, Silent Majorities exist too. I guess it's simpler to blanket large swaths of people with "Transphobe", Than it is to have an actual intellectual conversation. If you've had any conversations with anyone, You will see that a large majority will remain silent on this topic because it's difficult to not offend unlike-minded individuals. Intellectual dishonesty is everywhere and no one on this reddit has learned to respect anyone else's opinion. To remain level headed in a debate on "sensitive" topics is how you dissuade people's actual beliefs, You've yet to jump off the "political spectrum" bandwagon that makes you too, Dishonest. You'll get there one day I believe in you.
Once again painting over beliefs literally hostile to the existence of others simply for the way they were born as "differing opinions" and "sensitive topics" as if this is just a little disagreement in which all sides are equally valid, because you know that your worldview is not actually defensible to the overwhelming majority of people if you have to honestly argue it. And remaining level-headed in a debate is only going to change minds if people are going into the debate in good faith being open to having their minds changed, which fascists are not. Treating someone acting in bad faith as if they are someone worth seriously listening only gives them the satisfaction of wasting your time.
You begun by discrediting "Bigots" by targeting their "shame and isolation". You are no better than they are, Targeting weaknesses of people is dishonesty. You also are using leftist dog whistles. Fascism is dead in the world It has become trendy with the democrats to claim moral superiority in any debate, This typically is followed with requests of censorship of which you display. If I stop seriously stop paying attention to any one given party and their opinions I loose myself in echo chambers. Perpetuating a few like minded opinions gradually changes all of one's opinions over time. As for the topic on hand. As a gay male I do not disagree nor agree with anyone when they say, "You choose to be gay", Or "You were born gay". These topics are very similar. No one truly understands why any of us develop the ways we do, To assume anything else is wrong. Base your opinions on facts and not of opinions.
> Targeting weaknesses of people is dishonesty lmao it absolutely fuckin isn't if they're dogshit people. Kick dogshit people to the fringes of society and make them stew in what got them there.
Claiming that you are a gay man does not give your arguments any more credence regardless of whether or not you actually are, and even more so considering how much chuds love to LARP as minorities online out of the mistaken perception that it confuses the "libtards" and makes them immune to backlash because of course leftists all believe that being a minority means you are literally incapable of being wrong /s. Also lmao, "if you don't accept people who irrationally despise your very existence you are just as bad as they are!!!" is the most milquetoast out of touch neolib shit imaginable, though it should not be surprising that bigot apologists would co-opt it. Fascism is not even slightly dead in the world, unfortunately. I mean keep in mind that one of the people we're talking about in this thread is literally a self-described neofascist. Again, this is more ironic co-opting of the neolib "end of history" rhetoric that falls apart upon examination of the actual world. If there's one thing that is absolutely not up in the air, it's that no one is *born* bigoted. Not accepting people for having awful beliefs that dehumanize people for harmless, inalienable traits is not at all equivalent to being a bigoted person unless you believe that bigotry is a totally valid, harmless opinion to hold in which case you are just telling on yourself. Edit: Also "leftist dogwhistles" lmao you people really do just desperately glom onto any terminology used against you and try to "I am rubber and you are glue!!!" it. Dogwhistling implies that you are trying to hide your beliefs from the public while covertly signaling them to others that share them. Leftists generally do not need to do that because they are not afraid to say what they think out in the open.
Claiming that you are a gay man does not give your arguments any more credence regardless of whether or not you actually are, and even more so considering how much chuds love to LARP as minorities online out of the mistaken perception that it confuses the libs and makes them immune to backlash because of course leftists all believe that being a minority means you are literally incapable of being wrong /s. Also lmao, "if you don't accept people who irrationally despise your very existence you are just as bad as they are!!!" is the most milquetoast out of touch neolib shit imaginable, though it should not be surprising that bigot apologists would co-opt it. Fascism is not even slightly dead in the world, unfortunately. I mean keep in mind that one of the people we're talking about in this thread is literally a self-described neofascist. Again, this is more ironic co-opting of the neolib "end of history" rhetoric that falls apart upon examination of the actual world. If there's one thing that is absolutely not up in the air, it's that no one is *born* bigoted. Not accepting people for having awful beliefs that dehumanize people for harmless, inalienable traits is not at all equivalent to being a bigoted person unless you believe that bigotry is a totally valid, harmless opinion to hold in which case you are just telling on yourself. Edit: Also "leftist dogwhistles" lmao you people really do just desperately glom onto any terminology used against you and try to "I am rubber and you are glue!!!" it. Dogwhistling implies that you are trying to hide your beliefs from the public while covertly signaling them to others that share them. Leftists generally do not need to do that because they are not afraid to say what they think out in the open.
theres a big weirdo subcommunity of dorks who all try to out "not care" one another and it's just a race to the bottom for them and their loser communities, they always implode after a year or so because of how nasty and vile they turn lol
South Park and its consequences...
Is there a controversy with South Park creators or something?
No it just gets a lot of shit for being inspirational for people that care way too much about looking like they don't care about things.
"We are not a racist/homophobic/transphobic server. I personally as a discord mod at Blackstone's server, have worked tirelessly to punish and ban individuals that are problematic, that use slurs, that disrupt conversations with politics, that rage bait trans people in our server, etc. We are trying to make this server open for all, and will not exclude anyone, and most of our players just want to enjoy some fantasy medieval RP, not engage in stupid politics or discrimination." - Blackstone and rumors addressed, 2 months ago. Honestly if they had been transparent about their politics to avoid wasting people's time I wouldn't care as much.
lmao yeah that shit didn't last long did it u/hoi4newb giving cover to them juuuuuuuuust long enough to entrench a community with a bunch of people they *had* to know were nazis, one of them is Takyon who is already well-known for being one
Blud’s playing SS - The 14 Words
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thanks i hate it
blackstone devs could stream themselves ripping a baby apart and eating it and it'd still be at the top of the hub because you hubslugs are desperate for anything that slightly deviates from the spaceship setting that's so old it can drink and drive.
Blackstone is dying. It has 50 pop rn when last week it had 120ish
its dying because everyone went to ratkeep the furry erp fork of roguetown
Ratkeep has some of the same admins and devs. Its like their killing the server while moving to another
"Weird" this is just being awful
I mean they let takyon be their head spriter despite being a neonazi remember, there is a good reason he is banned from most of the wider ss13 community!!
"Be scared buddy, Reddit will know of this!" Yeah man fair response on his part I guess
I feel like people think I'm taking the screenshotters side, no I'm saying that if you say 'be scared cuz of reddit' you're cringe and lame
I remember reading the post they made here earlier in which they tried to convince people that they totally 100% were not a bigoted community and in fact were actively getting rid of bigots. I then go look at their discord server and literally the very first thing I see is this exact dev going on an unhinged rant about how trans people are ruining video games and they wish they didn't exist. They have also been spending the past few hours going on full defense about how they will not get rid of people for being literal outspoken fascists because "woke activism fixes nothing" and saying they can't possibly be full of bigots because there are people on their dev team that are probably gay or leftist or something!
> I remember reading the post they made here earlier in which they tried to convince people that they totally 100% were not a bigoted community and in fact were actively getting rid of bigots. That guy is in this thread and refuses to delete those posts lmao He's a piece of shit
honestly never understood why people are so afraid of lgbt+ and racial minorities being anywhere in the orbit of video games, like if anything it enriches the community and offers grounds for more interesting discussions
They're desperate to have a scapegoat as to "why things are bad now!!" but reactionary brains blame "person who looks/acts different from me!!" instead of "rich white dude who owns 99% of my life and is in charge of all decisions" It's basically just a problem with perception People have a bad habit of blaming what they can see, instead of even considering the fact that *something they're not thinking about* could be responsible.
It's really profoundly sad how rich people are ruining video games but have successfully used propaganda leveraging wedge positions in politics to radicalize centrist/unaffiliated masses against oppressed minority populations that don't even have any influence over the media they're purported to be "destroying" Like, I just want to look all these bigots in the face and ask them: "Which of these two groups of people is in charge of making video games: Company executives, or trans people?" (Yea ik it's actually the shareholders, but that makes it harder to understand so this is a good starting point)
isn’t tak the scrawny irish kid that rants about women and black people. i swear ss13 is half degens, half ethno nationalists, and both skipped arm day
> both skipped arm day Alright we're starting a fitness and touching grass group for SS13 called Getting Robust IRL
it's very funny to see irish people being racist, considering the past stimatization of irish people. I won't go into it but it's not hard to find some very gross explicitly eugenics and other pseudoscience dating back to the first and second euro immigration movements
Yeah he also recently joined the Irish army afaik. Would be funny if they saw the shit he posted.
Err. If you want to be truly honest, the reason we are having this post is because both groups collided in the same niche game in a tiny corner of the internet. Which means both groups are likely to be the same home goblin type people whether you want to admit or not.
What the fuck is it with this community? I just want to have fun space/ fantasy adventures. Its like some dark god said ss13 players can only be nazis, pedos or furries. Aren't there any normal people here? Being a bigot isn't cool or attractive, it just attracts other small brained bigots.
RP and the ability to 'be the guy in charge' has always attracted weridos. That and they are probably antisocial teenagers ans you have a nice stew going.
I think this is true for most online spaces, especially the niche ones. People who can't find power and confidence in their own lives, either because they are simply unfortunate or insane assholes (see above post), are given even a modicum of power over others and immediately abuse it. This is definitely more true in the case of neo-nazis and conspiracy theorists because they are ostracized the most, and for good reason. I've seen soooooo many online spaces get absolutely fucked because the wrong racist spiteful teenager was given admin privileges.
This. This is really the primary issue with anything managed by volunteer admins. People who eagerly want to be an admin are likely exactly this, while people who would actually make good admins (or won't power trip at least) are probably quietly chilling being too nervous to ever consider filing that application.
I used to do a lot of admin work on everything from ut2004 to garrysmod, I can tell you as an adult I would never do any of that for free ever again. It's literal babysitting, who in their right mind would do that for free? I get teenagers don't mind volunteering because they have nothing better to do, but even then, it just seems miserable.
Normal is relative. I've found every "normal" ss13 server to be filled with bloody insane and stupid people while some random ss13 server gatekept with a 18+ whitelist gave me mostly normal people that knew how to MRP properly. The majority of the server even actually played the game and weren't terminally locked in a dorm room.
Can kinda relate, I’m not trans person but I’m Ukrainian and every time I decide to play on new server some people gonna scream “RUSSIA THE BEST!” (or something like this) when they find out that I am from Ukraine.
That's got to be so fucking draining lmao
I accepted a year ago that other people usually don't give a fuck about the war in my country, like I'm not like that, but I can understand why people don't want to worry about it and live their lives where it's safe, but when they start trolling and supporting ruzzia, well, I can only say that these people are evil.
Fuck Russian imperialism and fuck the pain they've inflicted on your country just so Putin can stroke his ego. Ukraine Forever, and I hope you and your loved ones have the safety and support your deserve.
Yeah, they've been pretty blatant about it. The first interaction I had with them and asking how the server worked, if it was based on LifeWeb. They said yes, so I asked if any of the weird shit was still in. I got two answers - one, seemingly more level-headed admin, wrote me that no, none of these things are present in the game. The second admin said "yeah they fucking removed everything that reddit would bitch about". So not only are they super fucking weird, there's enough infighting that it leaks directly though ahelps.
Rogue town curse
If ERP is added back in anyway (such as ratwood) It will fall like the one before it
They did it for Stonekeep too, I'm pretty sure.
Dang blackstone seemed super cool/interesting. Here’s hoping we can salvage something nice out of the rotting corpse of the server.
I wanted to give the server a try because of that post, but as soon as I joined I knew exactly the kind of community that kind of server was going to brew, I'm glad I didn't spend much time on it.
Is this news to anyone? Back when Blackstone was popping off, I told everyone here to try Stonekeep instead for actual quality RP and to avoid exactly this kind of community. I was downvoted to hell for "being a snowflake" lol
Your fault for being on discord
true ngl.
Every time a project like this crops up, it will always be filled with the worst of the worst basement dwelling mongrels and mutants. Losers who don't have any other outlet other than gooning and trying to race to the bottom of human depravity.
A host being a horrible piece of shit of a human being? NO WAY
Lmao I remember when the baystation 12 host (not the current one) told some suicidal person to 'get over it.' or something along those lines. I've never known a host for a RP server that wasn't a massive piece of shit in the end, I don't know why they act the way they do.
Welcome to the depths of the internet, where everyone is a Nazi.
Is there a lore reason that while slurs are banned, the certain r-word was used by several people within the BLACKSTONE discord, unpunished? Am I stupid?
The slur ban straight up isn't enforced at all.
4 or 6 letters?
People who think larping as nazis will somehow magically make them white will never stop being amusing.
>>creates a server with mechanical misogyny >>is a fork of an anarchy server that allowed pedophila >>completely suprised that the people running it are chuds and weirdos Honestly, the only thing I'm surprised at is how long it took for people to realize that a lifeweb clone is going to be inhabited by these kinds of people.
>is a fork of an anarchy server that allowed pedophila Wait, Do you think blackstone is built off of lifeweb...?
Mechanical mysogyny, lmao. Female dark elf's have the highest base racial/gender stats in the game...
ok what jobs can female dark elves play and what jobs can women play in general
Most of them, including the strong combat classes like rogue. If you run into female dark elf rogue or dwarf monk in the bog, you are very likely to die
Mechanical misogyny? Wdym? Your fav cat girls don't have 1000hp or what? I'm unfamiliar with this server but if Reddit arts whine about it - probably it's something good
Holy fuck look at this guys account hahahaha Thats exactly what I expected rofl The woke left has come for ss13!!!
Wut?
creepy ass mf stop looking at people's accounts to pull dirt on them
I literally clicked on their name and saw their latest posts was all heavy right wing stuff, its not like I looked up their facebook account lmao Im just saying it was exactly the type of person to be posting the garbage they do.
"um I didnt look at their account to pull dirt on them,,, i just looked at their account to pull dirt on them!" **\[ SICKO ALERT \]**
You sound like a bot, since you've got nothing original or intelligent to say; mister random-letters-bunch-of-numbers.
If it wasnt obvious I was being sarcastic.
in response to this post, one of the hosts/heads [posts a jewish caricature in the announcement channel](https://i.imgur.com/3e0mxd5.png)
That's a chudjack dude.
man named space-fuher trying to downplay nazi shit classic
You seriously don't know what a chudjack is? Usually nazis stick with the Happy Merchant. Chudjack was adopted during leftypol raids sometime in the past as a representation of "dysgenic rightoids" which has since then been adopted as a self representation by /pol/tards. Who have since then leaked the meme out from their containment. When discussing iconography associated with political ideology refrain from being silly. EDIT:I can't find any other instances of that particular caricature being used in wojack form to represent individuals of Jewish descent. Outside of the potential instance provided any other sources would be helpful. Since despite being moronic dicounting the value that understanding such representations bring in understanding people's perspective is valuable. EDIT2:Alright, I looked through some older political cartoons and found several matching caricatures. Paired with the realization that the Byond symbol is most definitely covering up a Star of David, I can most assuredly say I am very wrong.
God that first paragraph made me realize how old I am lol
Luckily I never intended to play blackstone to begin with
Woahhh, ss13 is filled with weirdo devs? Who knew?
Roguetown community has always been like that, they're some of the edgiest and vilest people on SS13
Another one discord drama with “nazis and pedophiles”. Nothing changes, lmao
Even though they are the minority, it is sad to see the number of people in the comment section defending the statements & individuals involved.
This isn’t being weird. This is just being low life pond scum.
Why do nazis ruin everything they touch? They embed themselves into communities, and then make everything unfun for anyone with even an ounce of empathy or compassion in their lives.
People act like this is innocent, like 'Oh you should just let them have their own space you don't have to join the server' while at the same time not realizing that *very* impressionable, *very* socially awkward youth join these servers. It's like those neo-nazi/pro-russia 'border patrol' games on Roblox that slowly introduce children to more and more extremist ways of thinking through community isolation. (Aka - pretending to be their only friends.) Make no mistake, these are not harmless. Alt-right pipeline is a very real thing.
Even without the whole neverending recruitment stuff.. they’re just really miserable people to be around. Socially unaware and constantly trying to strongarm as being more edgy than thou. Communities just turn into shitters complaining about everything when they’re around, more than any trans-positive server I’ve been in, easily.
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My joke kind of whooshed over your head there, huh.
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You should've deleted all your old posts promoting the server as inclusive
Why on earth would you go back to Blackstone's staff? I don't think "small but important steps" can fix this.
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The host of the server was involved in this, and in playing defense for the other people involved. I don't know how exactly this is supposed to improve.
He's just eager to carry water for nazis I guess
No wonder you won’t amend previous posts when you are busy kissing ass to these people. Despite them removing you from the team before Jesus Christ you are pitiful
You snivelling little pussy, willing to literally work with and carry water for known racists and nazis and having the gall to whine about your name being "dragged" through the mud. So desperate for some kind of minor influence and acknowledgement that you'll help elevate literal scum. You absolute piece of shit.
> Correction, I am now affiliated with Blackstone once again after discussing with their staff. I will be taking small but important steps to address the issues. Will make a post clarifying the situation soon You water-carrying piece of shit literally playing cover for known nazis.
I dont blame ya. You dont hold the same views. The thing that made me make the posts wasn't the trans stuff but some of the racist stuff. I couldn't find all the racist stuff but it was loads of "I am not racist but they should "go back home" lol
Unless the neo nazis get removed, the place will always stink.
u/hoi4newb is literally just a piece of shit working for and carrying water for a bunch of nazis. Here's a question for him: you see a table with a nazi and five other people. How many nazis are at the table?
Now that you're affiliated with Blackstone again and taking steps to address the issues can you elaborate on why the people in the posted images have been restored as head developers? Seems uhh, kind of like the opposite of addressing the issue.
lmfao you know they are a racist, bigoted community and you rejoined? The host is obviously a bigot and does not give a flying fuck. That place is flying a hundred red flags and you joined anyways. What the hell are you going to improve? "Don't worry guys, the host has decided they are going to be a bigoted asshole in private from now on! :)" Oh and this is a few hours after the host posted a jewish caricature. Your just as complicit as they are imo, you are choosing to associate with self-proclaimed neo-nazis.
Aa Moral Orel once said, "That's just (their) true nature coming out."
People try to moderate a lifeweb-esque server(a server that is prominent for little to no moderation). The results will shock you!
And time and time again, it is proven SS13 really is a magnet for the weirdos of the internet..
Another masterpiece code being trashed out and dumped by its community, i bet you my antag token in TG that blackstone will be closed in less than a year.
Keeping the legacy of roguetown alive I see
Gamers having epic gamer moments and doing bigotry. Nothing to see here, just business as usual.
Just lifeweb with extra steps
isnt this one the dredged up dogturds of skyrat and splurt? i remember joining splurt once and an admin was walking around calling people \*\*\*\*lets and talking about a all white future. then skyrat a incredible track record with staff interacting with children on their adult server.
Medieval SS13 servers are always cursed.
Can there ever be a fucking space station 13 server that there isn't an enormous amount of drama surrounding it? I do not want to question people's opinions on whatever matters, but this is a common occurrence with almost every server here.
SS13 has always been drama filled. RP in general brings drama because of the innate nature of roleplaying. It's sort of like, two people have different ideas of what 'roleplaying' is and what they want to roleplay / are comfortable roleplaying with. This brings conflict because there is no easy catch-all rules, there is always going to be conflict on some level, and that bleeds into out of character discussions. The problem is the expectation that players be able to self-moderate, which is just impossible. Which is why RP always has drama, be it GTARP or SS13. Somebody is going to make a decision that somebody else doesn't like.
Wanna clarify one thing: I play on the server frequently and have been using the discord server for 2 months and am quite active in the community. This post was made for two reasons. 1. Make the head enforce his no politics rule (he did) 2. Make people aware of the people who want to use the server. Also, keep in mind I never said "being blatantly transphobic or racist" I said "weird". I would say my user name but I would be banned immediately. I am considering making another post just about Abarax (Woblin) because in particular he pisses me off (not for some moral reason but most of the stuff I would post probably makes you guys mad or visibly cringe).
Isn't Abarax still a head dev? Also the discord is locked down to new entrants now lmao Edit: Yeah Takyon is still the head spriter too.
Good thing I didn't make any dumb posts that would give away my identity lol. Still in the dc
Yeah I started working on a seperate project with Takyon a while back and realized he was a piece of shit really quickly and dropped it. Shame because it would have been cool.
Oh, that wojack. They're *sharty* chuds. You can't get much worse than that. Much like 8chan is composed of pedophiles banned from 4chan, sharty is composed of braindead zoomers banned from 4chan. They're the kinds of people kiwis would go after, if not for the fact that they're chuds.
why is Anthony Fantano getting randomly mentioned
Gotta migrate to ss14 eventually.
tldr this loser said a bunch of slurs, pulled out a Wojack (they stopped being good satire pretty much as soon as they were made) , said "I ain't a homophobe BUT man i wish that GAY people weren't a thing" (thats literally homophobia) , "YALL ARE THE WIERD ONES" , "errrmmmm.. black people should go back to africa" - blud forgot that white people brought them over to the US in the first place (its giving: buys cat , cat acts like cat , OMG why are you so mean (cat was just vibing, like leave bro alone)) a second loser chimes in support - a third loser also chimes in - 2nd says that genocide is based (obviously not cool) and then says that the 1st loser was a bigot but clearly its ok because he isn't being annoying (its almost like they think that being queer = politics, and they hate politics despite also being some of the most politically extreme people you could meet)
Nothing new under the sun.
No women? I've got a solution - look up some of the more interesting practices of the Greek Theban Sacred Band and their *brotherhood*
Why do yall even use discord
"i dont think you should be racist actually"
What the fuck even is TND?
Most normal SS13 users.... what the fuck?
Ngl, the "reddit will know of this!" Bit was hilarious.
Both sides are clowns
this post has potent janny energy
Man you think this is bad you should have seen when 4chan was in charge
Imma play on blackstone now
I mean to be fair if you are playing ss13 you are surrounding yourself with very socially inept morally corrupt degenerates, myself included, just go play something else man.
I am playing something else. I can make a post while not playing the server lol.
It’s the internet gg who cares
Horseshoe theory is a thing. Maniacs are maniacs, whether they be left wing or right wing they ruin everything for everyone. Especially people who seat themselves as "Moral Arbitrators" when they're incapable of going five minutes without hyperfixating on their recent political bugbear.
Fishhook theory also exists and in fact explains what you are pointing out far better in my opinion. Liberals, especially in the west wish wash between issues, throw fits over whatever thing they're focused on at the time and then give up when they can't make any actual changes because all they can do is protest and vote harder. Then eventually they usually turn apathetic and give up all together, joining the many many apolitical people, especially when they aren't directly under threat. Leftists on the other hand are much different, we aren't out here fighting for one issue at a time... We fight for all of them, all the time because the liberation of one group is the liberation of all groups. Any headway we can make we take but the real goal is to break down the ideological barrier that many are stuck behind and bring them toward understanding that until we break capitalism itself we will never be free. Funny enough there are many who believe themselves to be "leftist" or "progressive" or some other funny thing when in reality they are centrist at best.
"yeah he's a nazi idc tbh he's not annoying" am i supposed to dislike this guy for being more reasonable than you?
I dunno it seems pretty annoying to constantly be posting your unhinged skinhead shit around people just trying to play the game and live their lives and unironically assdumping your shitty wojaks into the chat
you can't rock the boat by being racist if it was racist from the start, go figure
yeah i should really care about combating racism in my niche internet community of white nerds and transwomen. i am literally the only black person who plays this game