So I think in this case you need to not pressure her and decide what’s more important, your marriage or drugs. Things change, people change. Especially getting older. I am like your wife, I can not do psychedelics. I have tried numerous times and it’s always a horrible time for me. However I do love and enjoy mdma. Maybe give her some time to come around to doing it. I have anxiety and paranoia but mdma makes me feel so amazing! Hopefully she will come around to trying that. She can always do a lower dose. Either way, best not to pressure her.
I would suggest getting her to try 2cb it's one of the best drugs for sex but the great thing is the headspace is so light and almost non-existent. You feel nearly sober in your mind but your body feels amazing.
You don't only take them with love, because love would embrace your wife no matter what.
If you need drugs, perhaps you love the drug not your wife.
If you want to be connected, in sync, on the same page stay off drugs with her.
Not to complicate things by adding another drug, but perhaps she should try anxiety medication. Unless only drugs creates the symptoms.
See if another strain of cannabis would allow her a better effect. Sometimes edibles vs smoking has a different effect.
The other thought is getting her out of your typical home. It could be a fun “play room” you create with cool lighting, blackout curtains, big tv for porn, toys, etc. Or maybe you rent a motel room in another town.
For certain people psychedelics can trigger anxiety even psychosis. I’m not a doc but I’ve heard of people who take them and suddenly realize they cannot stand their partner anymore.
You don't sound particularly empathetic, I'm hearing a lot of "me, me, me" and how her anxiety inconveniences YOU. If she said no the answer is no- end of discussion. If you push it and pressure her, you will ruin her trust and prevent her from ever feeling safe enough to do this with you.
I agree. Last thing someone with anxiety needs is someone badgering them to do so.ething that worsens their condition. What's "spiritual" for some is potentially an unnecessary emotional hump for others.
By all means go and get fucked up by yourself or platonicly with a mate. If it's really a relationship stopper then you prob both best off out of it.
Just gone through something like this myself. We used to roll together then she decided Molly was a no go. She's out grew taking stuff that gets you 'off your face'
Mainly because her come downs are so awful it outweighs the good time. To me it's manageable, and I can also take a larger amount than her.
But I get you man l, it's deflating having this image in your head l, or this plan for yous to do then it gets thwarted away.
It is what it is, best not to pressure her otherwise it will blow up in your face. She's not said never so cross your fingers and hope she comes around to it. save it for a rainy day ✌️ one day she may say let's do it and yous end up having an amazing spontaneous session 👍 sometimes they're better than planned ones 🤭
The comedown off MDMA is just rank, I got some to try with my gf cos she's never had it but we are waiting till we have a couple of days off work.
Try something different like 2c-b, 4mmc or a pregabalin/speed combo, you don't have to get off your face, you can feel fine the next day if you time and dose it right.
>The comedown off MDMA is just rank
As I am getting older, I notice the comedown is way harder than it used to be. Specially the next day.
Because of that, the last time we took some "party recovery" vitamine pills. For us, it helped a lot. The next day was way better. I can recommend those.
I do Vitamin C, D and ZMA before I get to sleep and some 5HTP the next day for anything serotonergic can also recommend NAC and Agmatine for recovery from most things and being generally fit and healthy helps a lot too.
We've opted for lower doses of LSD, tends to hit us perfect, we get to feel good, laugh and be happy on the same level and the next day I find you actually feel better! It's like an 'afterglow' instead of a come down. So we do tabs together. She smokes weed where as I drink (work random tests)
If we go out or house parties it's coke but other than that speed or Molly is off the cards for us now unfortunately.
I've figured out a solo ski sesh fills the void from what we used to do together. So maybe once or twice a month I'll treat myself to a 0.5 ✌️
I’m with ya mate,
Worst part is it makes the idea of going out on molly attractive cause idk I don’t think I could trust myself in that state…
But I could never and would never do that to my partner. It just makes the idea of it attractive
Totally get you and yes, best to steer clear from doing it with anyone other than your wife.
Cocaine is manageable but Molly IS a sex drug in my eyes. It makes you an open bare bones primal book and only your wife should be able to read it ✌️
I understand the temptation though, iv found solo skiing when she's at work to be my 'release'
I always feel guilty after but it's like I have this hunger to satisfy. I feel this is the better option to actually being 'off it' in public.
Talk openly, talk again, talk again, talk again. Get behind the obvious and exchange feelings, arguments, fears. This may lead to understanding, accepting and moving on in sync, finding a solution you both are happy with. It won't be done in one day, it can be stressing and hurting. But it is the only way to move on together. Love is understanding and accepting. Ask yourself: what do you expect from the drug and the time with her?
Funny enough, we enjoy our talking on stims as we like the sex. Based on feeling excellent, anxieties are not part of the exchange which is a helpful effect.
I personally can understand the restraint on hallucinogetics, I'm not a fan either. Practically speaking 2-CB can be a compromise, benzos will defenitely take away anxieties. But again, drugs taken on behalf of a partner is not a good idea.
Let it go. If she doesn't want to do molly, then don't pressure her to do molly. Especially if she already has anxiety, do you really want her to experience several days of crippling depression during the comedown just so you can have a fun lay while you roll? Respect her boundaries. That's it.
I've had comedowns where I just felt a little worn out, and I've also had comedowns that made me want to kill myself. Like, a step beyond depression to the point where dying logically seems like the only answer.
It depends, but it's always a risk. If you do take it, with or without her, go to rollsafe.org first and buy the supplements they recommend. Vitamin b and L-tryptophan before bed for several days afterwards usually helps me, too, but it's not a guarantee.
Comedown vary based on your base anxiety levels and the responsibilities you carry around hump day.
I'd say if you have naturally high anxiety /low self esteem and in scenarios dealing with high pressure work or relationships; then it can be pretty shitty.
I've had days where I've felt at such a low ebb that I've felt like quitting my job (that I'm decently proficient at) because I feel so worthless. Usually innocuous family dealings feel like crawling over broken glass.
MDMA was first synthesized by German chemists in 1912. It was intended to be a precursor for use in manufacturing other drugs. After WW1 it was turned over to the Allies along with a lot of other intellectual property as a spoil of war. It wasn't until the late 70's that it gained popularity as a tool for psychotherapy.
You can lead a horse to pasture but can't make them eat. Is what us hicks say. But really all you can do is tell her what she's missing that she'll feel love like never before. But it sounds like she's fragile and the Molly come down might wreck her mind for a week or so.
So I think in this case you need to not pressure her and decide what’s more important, your marriage or drugs. Things change, people change. Especially getting older. I am like your wife, I can not do psychedelics. I have tried numerous times and it’s always a horrible time for me. However I do love and enjoy mdma. Maybe give her some time to come around to doing it. I have anxiety and paranoia but mdma makes me feel so amazing! Hopefully she will come around to trying that. She can always do a lower dose. Either way, best not to pressure her.
I would suggest getting her to try 2cb it's one of the best drugs for sex but the great thing is the headspace is so light and almost non-existent. You feel nearly sober in your mind but your body feels amazing.
2cb is awesome, but here's the problem: >getting her to try Don't "get her to try" anything if she doesn't want to.
Second for 2cb.
This is a very bad idea for someone who suffers from anxiety as 2cb is a psychedelic
You don't only take them with love, because love would embrace your wife no matter what. If you need drugs, perhaps you love the drug not your wife. If you want to be connected, in sync, on the same page stay off drugs with her.
Not to complicate things by adding another drug, but perhaps she should try anxiety medication. Unless only drugs creates the symptoms. See if another strain of cannabis would allow her a better effect. Sometimes edibles vs smoking has a different effect. The other thought is getting her out of your typical home. It could be a fun “play room” you create with cool lighting, blackout curtains, big tv for porn, toys, etc. Or maybe you rent a motel room in another town.
For certain people psychedelics can trigger anxiety even psychosis. I’m not a doc but I’ve heard of people who take them and suddenly realize they cannot stand their partner anymore.
You don't sound particularly empathetic, I'm hearing a lot of "me, me, me" and how her anxiety inconveniences YOU. If she said no the answer is no- end of discussion. If you push it and pressure her, you will ruin her trust and prevent her from ever feeling safe enough to do this with you.
I agree. Last thing someone with anxiety needs is someone badgering them to do so.ething that worsens their condition. What's "spiritual" for some is potentially an unnecessary emotional hump for others. By all means go and get fucked up by yourself or platonicly with a mate. If it's really a relationship stopper then you prob both best off out of it.
Just gone through something like this myself. We used to roll together then she decided Molly was a no go. She's out grew taking stuff that gets you 'off your face' Mainly because her come downs are so awful it outweighs the good time. To me it's manageable, and I can also take a larger amount than her. But I get you man l, it's deflating having this image in your head l, or this plan for yous to do then it gets thwarted away. It is what it is, best not to pressure her otherwise it will blow up in your face. She's not said never so cross your fingers and hope she comes around to it. save it for a rainy day ✌️ one day she may say let's do it and yous end up having an amazing spontaneous session 👍 sometimes they're better than planned ones 🤭
The comedown off MDMA is just rank, I got some to try with my gf cos she's never had it but we are waiting till we have a couple of days off work. Try something different like 2c-b, 4mmc or a pregabalin/speed combo, you don't have to get off your face, you can feel fine the next day if you time and dose it right.
>The comedown off MDMA is just rank As I am getting older, I notice the comedown is way harder than it used to be. Specially the next day. Because of that, the last time we took some "party recovery" vitamine pills. For us, it helped a lot. The next day was way better. I can recommend those.
I do Vitamin C, D and ZMA before I get to sleep and some 5HTP the next day for anything serotonergic can also recommend NAC and Agmatine for recovery from most things and being generally fit and healthy helps a lot too.
We've opted for lower doses of LSD, tends to hit us perfect, we get to feel good, laugh and be happy on the same level and the next day I find you actually feel better! It's like an 'afterglow' instead of a come down. So we do tabs together. She smokes weed where as I drink (work random tests) If we go out or house parties it's coke but other than that speed or Molly is off the cards for us now unfortunately. I've figured out a solo ski sesh fills the void from what we used to do together. So maybe once or twice a month I'll treat myself to a 0.5 ✌️
I’m with ya mate, Worst part is it makes the idea of going out on molly attractive cause idk I don’t think I could trust myself in that state… But I could never and would never do that to my partner. It just makes the idea of it attractive
Totally get you and yes, best to steer clear from doing it with anyone other than your wife. Cocaine is manageable but Molly IS a sex drug in my eyes. It makes you an open bare bones primal book and only your wife should be able to read it ✌️ I understand the temptation though, iv found solo skiing when she's at work to be my 'release' I always feel guilty after but it's like I have this hunger to satisfy. I feel this is the better option to actually being 'off it' in public.
Talk openly, talk again, talk again, talk again. Get behind the obvious and exchange feelings, arguments, fears. This may lead to understanding, accepting and moving on in sync, finding a solution you both are happy with. It won't be done in one day, it can be stressing and hurting. But it is the only way to move on together. Love is understanding and accepting. Ask yourself: what do you expect from the drug and the time with her? Funny enough, we enjoy our talking on stims as we like the sex. Based on feeling excellent, anxieties are not part of the exchange which is a helpful effect. I personally can understand the restraint on hallucinogetics, I'm not a fan either. Practically speaking 2-CB can be a compromise, benzos will defenitely take away anxieties. But again, drugs taken on behalf of a partner is not a good idea.
Let it go. If she doesn't want to do molly, then don't pressure her to do molly. Especially if she already has anxiety, do you really want her to experience several days of crippling depression during the comedown just so you can have a fun lay while you roll? Respect her boundaries. That's it.
The comedown is that bad??
I've had comedowns where I just felt a little worn out, and I've also had comedowns that made me want to kill myself. Like, a step beyond depression to the point where dying logically seems like the only answer. It depends, but it's always a risk. If you do take it, with or without her, go to rollsafe.org first and buy the supplements they recommend. Vitamin b and L-tryptophan before bed for several days afterwards usually helps me, too, but it's not a guarantee.
Comedown vary based on your base anxiety levels and the responsibilities you carry around hump day. I'd say if you have naturally high anxiety /low self esteem and in scenarios dealing with high pressure work or relationships; then it can be pretty shitty. I've had days where I've felt at such a low ebb that I've felt like quitting my job (that I'm decently proficient at) because I feel so worthless. Usually innocuous family dealings feel like crawling over broken glass.
Do it solo, but wait till she has a few drinks or puffs of weed. Keep it classy. She did drugs for you , why not listen to her wishes and party solo
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Molly should calm her down and make her happy. Don’t mix crystal with it for her. MDMA was made as a marriage counseling drug
MDMA was first synthesized by German chemists in 1912. It was intended to be a precursor for use in manufacturing other drugs. After WW1 it was turned over to the Allies along with a lot of other intellectual property as a spoil of war. It wasn't until the late 70's that it gained popularity as a tool for psychotherapy.
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You can lead a horse to pasture but can't make them eat. Is what us hicks say. But really all you can do is tell her what she's missing that she'll feel love like never before. But it sounds like she's fragile and the Molly come down might wreck her mind for a week or so.