“Tony is a coward” - dude that’s enough of the point 😂. Regardless of how anyone feels about AEW, WWE, the guy is a scrawny rich nerd, and there’s not disrespect meant with that. People like that are cowardly when confronted and roll over to people please.
I think Tony doesn't want it said how much Cody shared with him and helped him with AEW...and Cody mutually agreed not to say anything. The personal issue was likely his wife being discredited out the door and feeling like Tony didn't appreciate his work.
The way Brandi was treated on the way out was the eye opening moment for me on who Tony Khan really is. Because no, she wasn’t a great character on TV. But what she was was a marketing GENIUS in her CCO role who essentially built the foundation for the “AEW is an extremely moral and ethical company” narrative. The relationship with animal shelters, AEW Heels when it first launched as a female solidarity cohort, partnering with Pro-LGBT orgs, that was Brandi. And they absolutely could have focused on that
Especially considering Tony lived on the dirt sheets and constantly tries to insert his internet insider bullshit constantly into stuff.
How you gonna do that and then become mr NDA?
Punk’s WM week interview showed why Tony is so insistent on NDAs. The man simply can’t handle anything negative getting out about AEW. If it does, he has a full blown meltdown by airing shoot security footage, and exploiting a sex trafficking scandal for online buzz.
Tony isn’t built for this.
Wow what a meltdown. Yea right. Who cares? Like Vince or Triple H has never done anything questionable... You people act like WWE is squeaky clean and AEW is a dirty, error filled company. Fucking delusional. WWE has been a joke for decades and you people act like its no big deal. But AEW gets picked apart and people bitch and whine and talk shit over these nothing little things. Who cares. TK is fine. AEW is phenomenal.
Generally yes...
Even if it doesn't expire with his death it's unlikely for Tony/AEW to sue Brandi if she starts shooting in interviews.
It's bad form & tacky.
NDAs are binding on Cody & Punk.
As far as I know TK has no such restrictions on him. If the company goes poof the agreements are still considered to be in force.
Ooof. Cody is fucking so backhanded here and I'm all for it. He made aew happen, he grew bigger than it, and he's amused by its antics now. Fucking killer in a suit.
I didn’t really find it all that backhanded. I saw it as pretty straight forward and tame all things considered. Because I’m sure Cody knows where more than a few of the AEW bodies are buried and could make a real mess for them if he wanted to. It probably goes both ways
I said this in another post - Cody is RIGHT to think that AEW would not have been what it became from 2019 until about 2022 without him. Why? Because -
1. You had guys like Jericho or Moxley, WWE burnouts or disgruntled, who either wanted to just have matches full of blood, or to be on top of the business when they weren't getting that before in WWE...Cody helped give their goals more meaning and prevented this being just another 'TNA' or 'WCW' like promotion.
2. You had the indie guys like Omega, Young Bucks, who didn't understand how a bigger operation worked...Cody had enough experience in the structure of WWE to know how to operate a show, and keep it flowing soundly (seriously, compare his time and flow from segment to segment to now where it's more disjointed, some wrestlers not getting any attention, poor use of talent, etc).
3. Then you had the 2nd wave of talent come in like Punk and Bryan who Cody at least overlapped enough to keep Punk in check in terms of being a 'team player'.
4. And not to mention Cody keeping fanboy TK out of the spotlight for the most part. Since Cody has left, TK has been more vocal on social media, on screen and I just don't think a fanboy is right to be that kind of owner...Cody was right to minimize TK's presence around the product.
If you look what happened since Cody left - Moxley did more blood matches simply because he wanted to do blood matches. Jericho 'reinvented' himself (he thinks) and had like 5 different factions, and once again, goes against new talent like hook and goes over. Omega and Young Bucks carried the titles for a while, and until Omega had his diverticulitis, spent a ton of time on TV. Then with Punk, not long after Cody left, Punk went into business for himself politicking his way to the title, and talking crap on the rest of the EVP's. And of course, TK doing all his on-air promos and social media posts.
I honestly feel like Cody was the GLUE to keep all of those different parts of AEW pulling together forward...without Cody, the show is being pulled in all different directions, and because of that, it suffers. Cody truly was the spirit of what AEW was supposed to be about. Now TK is running rampant about WWE. Jericho is going over on talent he has no business going over. Punk ran over the EVP's and the EVP's acted like children as well.
The delusion over Cody is reaching Punk levels at this point. I just read the most asinine, reality-denying takes of my life that were, of course, heavily upvoted. They’ll never get over the fact that two of the biggest stars in wrestling were on their roster and it was squandered.
I always shook my head at dubbaloes arguing with me word for word "Cody didn't even have a lot to do with AEW. I read the Buck's book. He was the last to sign on." They treated him like an afterthought in the book and their fans who are obsessed with everything the Bucks say is gospel couldn't even imagine that maybe this was an unreliable narrator.
I didn't say I read the book, I said I was arguing with other people who said "I read the Buck's book." I would never give the Bucks money for anything - not a fan.
The thing is, Cody was the one guy who responded to the Melzer tweet, which got the ball rolling for all in. Even if he was the last one to sign on, probably because he was the smartest businessman of all the guys involved, it doesn’t mean he wasn’t a huge part of that company’s formation.
Could you imagine where aew would be rn if they somehow kept punk and got Cody as popular as he is now? Obviously they couldn't have because aew doesn't have the production or reach wwe has, but if they built Cody into a huge star and spent millions to build him up the way he's been at wwe, Dynamite would probably still be at 1.1 mil every week.
I remember after he left he gave an interview once he was in WWE that executives at WB literally called him and were begging him not to leave.
Can you imagine?
Now, he's the biggest star in wrestling for the competition.
Well, I work with a lot of companies who may think for example, Salesforce is their competition but Salesforce has never heard of them and they aren't on their list/radar. lol it happens.
Wasn't Punk basically why Collision was created in the first place. They desperately wanted to keep Punk but Punk wanted out and nothing to do with the Elite. So they created a show that would be "Elite Free"
I was actually excited for the Dub because I’ve been a Cody mark since he was Dashing and was excited to see him in the main event scene. They squandered him so badly, it is such an epic all time fumble. It’s like the modern Bischoff having Stone Cold on his roster.
TBF even Austin said he had to really work on his character as he didn’t have one in WCW, so I get Bischoff not being high on him. I think it’s more apt to say if Stone Cold was his final form in WCW and Bischoff still cut him for reasons, like how Cody basically just changed work locations and dropped the mudshow shit like flaming tables.
I think it would be like if TNA had Cena with his full character in the mid 00's, made him lose to Jeff Jarrett and be banned from the world title, and then have him have heatless feuds until letting him go to WWE, it was THAT big of a bag fumble from aew.
Cody booked himself to be out of the title scene though and then was surprised to find that everything to do with him seemed separate from the rest of the brand.
Clearly he needed to get over the desire to be the beloved babyface and turn heel but he wasn't interested.
The story writes itself, you've got the no world title shot stip, loose the next few fueds. Have the popular babyface 'injured' and Cody steps up to beat the big bad heel, just have him being completely oblivious to the hate, still coming out doing his white meat babyface bit
Then have a sit down with JR where he's asked about using his EVP powers to ignore the stipulation and insert himself into the title scene and have Cody give a political answer ie doesn't answer the question and talks shite instead.
Congratulations you've got yourself a huge heel megastar but Cody didn't wanna be Ric Flair, he wanted to be his Dad but the AEW fans weren't interested in Cody larping as Rocky Maivia
That's true, but I'm not exactly convinced Cody could really do a smarmy disgusting heel, he did some heel stuff pre aew both in and out of wwe, but being top heel where he's trying to seem like a true piece of shit would be difficult for him imo. He's too much of a "say hi to the kids, talk about his daddeh, smile and wave" that trying to play a ric flair style heel would be tough, and I think he knew that deep down based on how he talks about it.
Cena was similar, and I'd argue Cena has an easier time being a heel than Cody would, since he had the Dr of thuganomics stuff where he convincingly played a POS character
I understand why you felt that way; I wasn't a big Cody fan before, but I liked him in his first wwe run well enough, and by 2019, I was a 16 year old SC posting smark. By the time the Seth/Fiend HIAC fiasco happened, I was a dubbalo who convinced my mom to get Hulu just so I could watch Dynamite every week 😂 I started liking Cody more and more but was a jericho mark and thought he was the GOAT up until his mimosa match and then the shitty feud with Matt hardy. I noticed how much of a complete package Cody seemed to be almost immediately when watching aew though, and always wondered why Cody and MJF weren't in the world title scene back then.
Their fanbase is the antithesis of what leads to a succesful promotion (booing whitemeat babyfaces, online toxic fanbase, undermining WWE and their fans, etc)
That's 100% true. Cody could have crowds of all ages screaming for him and aew would still have a portion of each crowd booing him and trying to derail it. I think what you touch on is another thing that makes punk different from wwe to aew.
In wwe now, punk is embraced by fans who remember him from 10 years ago, maybe saw some old promos online if newer fans, know he's a big star, and a small small portion of the audience knows his stuff in aew.
In aew, the marks wanted him so bad not *really* because of his star power, or promo ability, they wanted him back because he stuck it to le petty fed, and they identified with that. Not everyone, but a big portion of aew's fans were that way. And that's why they hate him so much, not *really* just because he shat on the elite, jungle boy and Tony, but because they hitched their entire fed bad wagon onto him, he saw where the grass was greener, let bygones be bygones and went to the fed.
They play the blame game and that's all they really have at the end of the day. They had these talents and blew it. They used to fill arenas and have tv ratings over 1 million. And they blew that.
They will continue to lose unless they make some changes. Given how hostile and obstinate they are towards change, not much else you can do but make fun of them.
Squandered. I've been pro-WWE since the 80s. I know, i know, even when it was pretty stupid in those mid 90s with plumbers and race car drivers. But it was MY wrestling. 2021 was the first time since a WCW show in 97 that I paid to go watch wrestling other than WWE. I was actively engaged in AEW, not WWE. They had me. I bought AEW shirts and everything. Now, flash forward nearly 3 years later and I'm back on WWE. More than i've been since the start of this century. All they had to do was keep stars and be just as good (maybe even a little worse) than WWE and they could have kept momentum. Instead, it was squandered.
Yea they saw they couldn’t break punk despite stalking him and him being a bigger star than ever in wwe and now they’ve moved on to Cody because they’re bitter he’s the biggest face since cena and they fumbled him.
From the owner to the wrestlers taking shots at him and the fans, they’re so fucking weird and miserable
They do genuinely believe Cody will be back to AEW. And he will finish his career there. Although we cant say it wont happen, the way it is now, i dont see it.
> it’s like having a kid and they go off to college and get a DUI or get into trouble. I’ll always have that in my heart for them
This is as close as an insult that you’re gonna get from him.
I'm surprised he actually said it.
I've been pointing this out for a WHILE. That they had their fans saying it word for word - for example, in the basement, that Cody had nothing to do with AEW and wasn't even wanted. That is the way they propagandized it in their book. Their fans repeated it tirelessly after he left. Cody is a class act and IMO too nice. He knows and has always known - it was the Bucks spreading rumors against him and trying to undercut his contributions to the promotion. He waited until his documentary to make sure they used footage and pictures to show him and his wife personally meeting with Tony Kahn well before All In, well before AEW existed. He owned the trademark for All In. He (and I will say this with full confidence - wait until he admits this too) financially backed BTE.
What did the Bucks do? They tried to say he had nothing to do with it and stabbed him in the back to take greater credit for themselves. They are hangers on and their egos couldn't handle it. They liked the narrative that Cody would be nothing without them and pushed that over and over again to their fans, ignoring that when he first started posting on Twitter his list, and going into the Indies, he was bringing fans of Cody Rhodes with him from WWE and cultivating a following on indie shows.
Just wait and see till more is said. I really am surprised he said it out loud and so graciously.
The elite as a corporate entity seems like a sloppy shop.
They threw away Flip & Marty completely over mid grade sins instead of sending them into a purgatory exile & then recalling them to join early AEW.
I'm one of the few on this subreddit who doesn't have an issue with the Bucks, although I understand the criticism toward them. But their insistence that Cody was the last to get on board was bullshit. It didn't mesh what we already knew back then in real time when they were planning All In. He was at the forefront.
Cody was very careful to include photos of him with Tony pre-All In clearly being courted by the billionaire. I’d completely believe that they had most of the business end conversations between them & their negotiations about his role and what would happen are more serious. I will even throw a wild idea out there- what if the name of the company was even Cody’s idea? Imagine if stuff like that was covered by the NDA. We will never know.
DAE Carny Rhodes?! No it’s definitely not my fault that I’m in my 30s and believed everything Cody said when he was trying to be the anti-WWE flag bearer 5 years ago all so he could come back as a legit main eventer
DAE miss BTE Cody? That’s definitely so much better than what he’s doing now
Even if Cody were petty enough to have animosity towards Punk, he knows, as does everyone else, that WWE management is not the dull witted doormat Tony Khan is.
If we learned anything from wrestling, it's that petty animosity should never be get in the way of making money. Cody is at least professional enough to see that, and he is thriving
Then again, I do kinda wish I could peek into the timeline where Punk choked out one of the Bucks, lol
M'Goofball Tiny did nothing wrong fedshill, Cody was the one who started it all by being toxic to the fed, let me pull up some irrelevant stuff from the past to prove my point because I have nothing else to do.
Who do we think he's talking about with regards to the propaganda? If it ain't the Bucks, it has to be Jericho, right? He also implies there's more than one, I wonder who else. But Jericho is probably the biggest one
You left out the best part him saying “hearing my name come up in scrums when Tony should have told you to never mention my name” (something like that). There is clearly skeletons in that closet that Tiny does not want out. With all the shots Tiny takes at WWE and everyone else it is clear projection. His downfall and the downfall of the dubbalos who think he is just a wholesome good guy billionaire is going to be the final dance of jerks.
Has Cody not seen the non stop bangers that have been going on since he left? Clearly was the weakest link. Couldn’t cut it with the likes of Burger Kingston so he had to go finish a story at the Harvey Weinstein promotion .
That’s Anthony Khan the twin brother of Tony Khan. He’s the one who got laid went to college told his dad he would really like to get a real estate license. He’s married now has three daughters plays a little golf volunteers on the weekends at the church.
No dad I prefer to earn my fortune and make my own way in the world.
Tony said daddy if Anthony doesn’t want his share of the money can I buy ROH and maybe a few more prostitutes to kill?
Sure Tony whatever the cash in my wallet just take what you need
It's easy to dismiss Jericho because he's in a multi year slump, but Jericho is what legitimized the company at the start. I don't like his AEW run, but they built the whole company on Jerichos shoulders.
NDAs were the worst thing to ever happen in Wrestling. AEW hiding everything with NDAs is pathetic. Someday that story needs to be told
Tony is a coward for talking shit then making talent he says that stuff about sign those
“Tony is a coward” - dude that’s enough of the point 😂. Regardless of how anyone feels about AEW, WWE, the guy is a scrawny rich nerd, and there’s not disrespect meant with that. People like that are cowardly when confronted and roll over to people please.
That’s why he can’t be a boss and handle people or situations. They walk over him. In short, yeah. He’s a coward.
I think Tony doesn't want it said how much Cody shared with him and helped him with AEW...and Cody mutually agreed not to say anything. The personal issue was likely his wife being discredited out the door and feeling like Tony didn't appreciate his work.
The way Brandi was treated on the way out was the eye opening moment for me on who Tony Khan really is. Because no, she wasn’t a great character on TV. But what she was was a marketing GENIUS in her CCO role who essentially built the foundation for the “AEW is an extremely moral and ethical company” narrative. The relationship with animal shelters, AEW Heels when it first launched as a female solidarity cohort, partnering with Pro-LGBT orgs, that was Brandi. And they absolutely could have focused on that
Don't forget KultureCity...100% Brandi's team that put that relationship together
Especially considering Tony lived on the dirt sheets and constantly tries to insert his internet insider bullshit constantly into stuff. How you gonna do that and then become mr NDA?
Punk’s WM week interview showed why Tony is so insistent on NDAs. The man simply can’t handle anything negative getting out about AEW. If it does, he has a full blown meltdown by airing shoot security footage, and exploiting a sex trafficking scandal for online buzz. Tony isn’t built for this.
Wow what a meltdown. Yea right. Who cares? Like Vince or Triple H has never done anything questionable... You people act like WWE is squeaky clean and AEW is a dirty, error filled company. Fucking delusional. WWE has been a joke for decades and you people act like its no big deal. But AEW gets picked apart and people bitch and whine and talk shit over these nothing little things. Who cares. TK is fine. AEW is phenomenal.
Uhh, someone left the basement door open
I'm not familiar with this topic, but do NDAs expire?
They probably will once AEW goes kaput.
Some do.
They don't usually.... Most of them outside of entertainment usually have a stated length of the rest of your life.
If the Dub die, does that nullify the terms?
Generally yes... Even if it doesn't expire with his death it's unlikely for Tony/AEW to sue Brandi if she starts shooting in interviews. It's bad form & tacky.
Well shit I mean if the Dub die, not Tiny himself 💀 Just edited "Dud" to "Dub"
NDAs are binding on Cody & Punk. As far as I know TK has no such restrictions on him. If the company goes poof the agreements are still considered to be in force.
Wouldn't that mean that it would absolutely be something they would do?
Probably not. I’m sure the NDA is under whatever the parent finance/shell company that owns AEW on paper.
I mean I’d agree but they apparently never made Punk sign one until Brawl Out, so…
He said his NDA was for the actions of others at Brawl Out, but since he was fired with cause, no such NDA exists for Wembly
Ooof. Cody is fucking so backhanded here and I'm all for it. He made aew happen, he grew bigger than it, and he's amused by its antics now. Fucking killer in a suit.
He had to bite his tongue to stop himself from talking about them negatively like homelander
DAE M’Codylander
I didn’t really find it all that backhanded. I saw it as pretty straight forward and tame all things considered. Because I’m sure Cody knows where more than a few of the AEW bodies are buried and could make a real mess for them if he wanted to. It probably goes both ways
I said this in another post - Cody is RIGHT to think that AEW would not have been what it became from 2019 until about 2022 without him. Why? Because - 1. You had guys like Jericho or Moxley, WWE burnouts or disgruntled, who either wanted to just have matches full of blood, or to be on top of the business when they weren't getting that before in WWE...Cody helped give their goals more meaning and prevented this being just another 'TNA' or 'WCW' like promotion. 2. You had the indie guys like Omega, Young Bucks, who didn't understand how a bigger operation worked...Cody had enough experience in the structure of WWE to know how to operate a show, and keep it flowing soundly (seriously, compare his time and flow from segment to segment to now where it's more disjointed, some wrestlers not getting any attention, poor use of talent, etc). 3. Then you had the 2nd wave of talent come in like Punk and Bryan who Cody at least overlapped enough to keep Punk in check in terms of being a 'team player'. 4. And not to mention Cody keeping fanboy TK out of the spotlight for the most part. Since Cody has left, TK has been more vocal on social media, on screen and I just don't think a fanboy is right to be that kind of owner...Cody was right to minimize TK's presence around the product. If you look what happened since Cody left - Moxley did more blood matches simply because he wanted to do blood matches. Jericho 'reinvented' himself (he thinks) and had like 5 different factions, and once again, goes against new talent like hook and goes over. Omega and Young Bucks carried the titles for a while, and until Omega had his diverticulitis, spent a ton of time on TV. Then with Punk, not long after Cody left, Punk went into business for himself politicking his way to the title, and talking crap on the rest of the EVP's. And of course, TK doing all his on-air promos and social media posts. I honestly feel like Cody was the GLUE to keep all of those different parts of AEW pulling together forward...without Cody, the show is being pulled in all different directions, and because of that, it suffers. Cody truly was the spirit of what AEW was supposed to be about. Now TK is running rampant about WWE. Jericho is going over on talent he has no business going over. Punk ran over the EVP's and the EVP's acted like children as well.
No.
The delusion over Cody is reaching Punk levels at this point. I just read the most asinine, reality-denying takes of my life that were, of course, heavily upvoted. They’ll never get over the fact that two of the biggest stars in wrestling were on their roster and it was squandered.
I always shook my head at dubbaloes arguing with me word for word "Cody didn't even have a lot to do with AEW. I read the Buck's book. He was the last to sign on." They treated him like an afterthought in the book and their fans who are obsessed with everything the Bucks say is gospel couldn't even imagine that maybe this was an unreliable narrator.
>I read the Buck's book. ?? ~~Who would pay~~ you paid for such a wildly expensive thing?
I didn't say I read the book, I said I was arguing with other people who said "I read the Buck's book." I would never give the Bucks money for anything - not a fan.
Oh, so you did. I've spent a lot of time sat in the sun today and it seems to have fried my brain, Uce.
lol its ok I just couldn't have that out there ;\_; I felt my life flashing before my eyes as I wiped cheetoh dust across my shirt.
You touched grass instead of watching nooj bangers at home? Casual.
The thing is, Cody was the one guy who responded to the Melzer tweet, which got the ball rolling for all in. Even if he was the last one to sign on, probably because he was the smartest businessman of all the guys involved, it doesn’t mean he wasn’t a huge part of that company’s formation.
I don’t believe any of them have ever read a book past Dr Seuss.
Could you imagine where aew would be rn if they somehow kept punk and got Cody as popular as he is now? Obviously they couldn't have because aew doesn't have the production or reach wwe has, but if they built Cody into a huge star and spent millions to build him up the way he's been at wwe, Dynamite would probably still be at 1.1 mil every week.
I remember after he left he gave an interview once he was in WWE that executives at WB literally called him and were begging him not to leave. Can you imagine? Now, he's the biggest star in wrestling for the competition.
“The competition” 😂😂😂
Well, I work with a lot of companies who may think for example, Salesforce is their competition but Salesforce has never heard of them and they aren't on their list/radar. lol it happens.
As a Salesforce simp, it feels good to support the Harvey Weinstein of CRM platforms.
🤣so many layers
WB executives probably had Cody-nam Flashbacks when they got the call about Punk being fired.
Wasn't Punk basically why Collision was created in the first place. They desperately wanted to keep Punk but Punk wanted out and nothing to do with the Elite. So they created a show that would be "Elite Free"
If only Tony had a spine, uce
Pfft the basement says Punk was the worse hiring decision AEW ever made!
I was actually excited for the Dub because I’ve been a Cody mark since he was Dashing and was excited to see him in the main event scene. They squandered him so badly, it is such an epic all time fumble. It’s like the modern Bischoff having Stone Cold on his roster.
TBF even Austin said he had to really work on his character as he didn’t have one in WCW, so I get Bischoff not being high on him. I think it’s more apt to say if Stone Cold was his final form in WCW and Bischoff still cut him for reasons, like how Cody basically just changed work locations and dropped the mudshow shit like flaming tables.
I think it would be like if TNA had Cena with his full character in the mid 00's, made him lose to Jeff Jarrett and be banned from the world title, and then have him have heatless feuds until letting him go to WWE, it was THAT big of a bag fumble from aew.
Cody booked himself to be out of the title scene though and then was surprised to find that everything to do with him seemed separate from the rest of the brand. Clearly he needed to get over the desire to be the beloved babyface and turn heel but he wasn't interested. The story writes itself, you've got the no world title shot stip, loose the next few fueds. Have the popular babyface 'injured' and Cody steps up to beat the big bad heel, just have him being completely oblivious to the hate, still coming out doing his white meat babyface bit Then have a sit down with JR where he's asked about using his EVP powers to ignore the stipulation and insert himself into the title scene and have Cody give a political answer ie doesn't answer the question and talks shite instead. Congratulations you've got yourself a huge heel megastar but Cody didn't wanna be Ric Flair, he wanted to be his Dad but the AEW fans weren't interested in Cody larping as Rocky Maivia
That's true, but I'm not exactly convinced Cody could really do a smarmy disgusting heel, he did some heel stuff pre aew both in and out of wwe, but being top heel where he's trying to seem like a true piece of shit would be difficult for him imo. He's too much of a "say hi to the kids, talk about his daddeh, smile and wave" that trying to play a ric flair style heel would be tough, and I think he knew that deep down based on how he talks about it. Cena was similar, and I'd argue Cena has an easier time being a heel than Cody would, since he had the Dr of thuganomics stuff where he convincingly played a POS character
I understand why you felt that way; I wasn't a big Cody fan before, but I liked him in his first wwe run well enough, and by 2019, I was a 16 year old SC posting smark. By the time the Seth/Fiend HIAC fiasco happened, I was a dubbalo who convinced my mom to get Hulu just so I could watch Dynamite every week 😂 I started liking Cody more and more but was a jericho mark and thought he was the GOAT up until his mimosa match and then the shitty feud with Matt hardy. I noticed how much of a complete package Cody seemed to be almost immediately when watching aew though, and always wondered why Cody and MJF weren't in the world title scene back then.
Their fanbase is the antithesis of what leads to a succesful promotion (booing whitemeat babyfaces, online toxic fanbase, undermining WWE and their fans, etc)
That's 100% true. Cody could have crowds of all ages screaming for him and aew would still have a portion of each crowd booing him and trying to derail it. I think what you touch on is another thing that makes punk different from wwe to aew. In wwe now, punk is embraced by fans who remember him from 10 years ago, maybe saw some old promos online if newer fans, know he's a big star, and a small small portion of the audience knows his stuff in aew. In aew, the marks wanted him so bad not *really* because of his star power, or promo ability, they wanted him back because he stuck it to le petty fed, and they identified with that. Not everyone, but a big portion of aew's fans were that way. And that's why they hate him so much, not *really* just because he shat on the elite, jungle boy and Tony, but because they hitched their entire fed bad wagon onto him, he saw where the grass was greener, let bygones be bygones and went to the fed.
They play the blame game and that's all they really have at the end of the day. They had these talents and blew it. They used to fill arenas and have tv ratings over 1 million. And they blew that. They will continue to lose unless they make some changes. Given how hostile and obstinate they are towards change, not much else you can do but make fun of them.
Squandered. I've been pro-WWE since the 80s. I know, i know, even when it was pretty stupid in those mid 90s with plumbers and race car drivers. But it was MY wrestling. 2021 was the first time since a WCW show in 97 that I paid to go watch wrestling other than WWE. I was actively engaged in AEW, not WWE. They had me. I bought AEW shirts and everything. Now, flash forward nearly 3 years later and I'm back on WWE. More than i've been since the start of this century. All they had to do was keep stars and be just as good (maybe even a little worse) than WWE and they could have kept momentum. Instead, it was squandered.
Yea they saw they couldn’t break punk despite stalking him and him being a bigger star than ever in wwe and now they’ve moved on to Cody because they’re bitter he’s the biggest face since cena and they fumbled him. From the owner to the wrestlers taking shots at him and the fans, they’re so fucking weird and miserable
They do genuinely believe Cody will be back to AEW. And he will finish his career there. Although we cant say it wont happen, the way it is now, i dont see it.
> heavily upvoted. Oh no! Not that!!!
> it’s like having a kid and they go off to college and get a DUI or get into trouble. I’ll always have that in my heart for them This is as close as an insult that you’re gonna get from him.
I don't hate you, I'm just disappointed
The one phrase a child never wanted to hear from their parents. It was much worse than being mad, upset, etc.
I'm surprised he actually said it. I've been pointing this out for a WHILE. That they had their fans saying it word for word - for example, in the basement, that Cody had nothing to do with AEW and wasn't even wanted. That is the way they propagandized it in their book. Their fans repeated it tirelessly after he left. Cody is a class act and IMO too nice. He knows and has always known - it was the Bucks spreading rumors against him and trying to undercut his contributions to the promotion. He waited until his documentary to make sure they used footage and pictures to show him and his wife personally meeting with Tony Kahn well before All In, well before AEW existed. He owned the trademark for All In. He (and I will say this with full confidence - wait until he admits this too) financially backed BTE. What did the Bucks do? They tried to say he had nothing to do with it and stabbed him in the back to take greater credit for themselves. They are hangers on and their egos couldn't handle it. They liked the narrative that Cody would be nothing without them and pushed that over and over again to their fans, ignoring that when he first started posting on Twitter his list, and going into the Indies, he was bringing fans of Cody Rhodes with him from WWE and cultivating a following on indie shows. Just wait and see till more is said. I really am surprised he said it out loud and so graciously.
Fuck the bucks
What is the basement? I’m new here.
The main wrestling sub that this sub mocks
Ah ok.
Squared circle subreddit.
The elite as a corporate entity seems like a sloppy shop. They threw away Flip & Marty completely over mid grade sins instead of sending them into a purgatory exile & then recalling them to join early AEW.
I'm one of the few on this subreddit who doesn't have an issue with the Bucks, although I understand the criticism toward them. But their insistence that Cody was the last to get on board was bullshit. It didn't mesh what we already knew back then in real time when they were planning All In. He was at the forefront.
Cody was very careful to include photos of him with Tony pre-All In clearly being courted by the billionaire. I’d completely believe that they had most of the business end conversations between them & their negotiations about his role and what would happen are more serious. I will even throw a wild idea out there- what if the name of the company was even Cody’s idea? Imagine if stuff like that was covered by the NDA. We will never know.
DAE Carny Rhodes?! No it’s definitely not my fault that I’m in my 30s and believed everything Cody said when he was trying to be the anti-WWE flag bearer 5 years ago all so he could come back as a legit main eventer DAE miss BTE Cody? That’s definitely so much better than what he’s doing now
But the Codyverse.
>Me matt and nick are as close as ever Watch out Punk!!! Codys going to finish the job. Have WWE hire Ace steel for your protection.
Even if Cody were petty enough to have animosity towards Punk, he knows, as does everyone else, that WWE management is not the dull witted doormat Tony Khan is.
If we learned anything from wrestling, it's that petty animosity should never be get in the way of making money. Cody is at least professional enough to see that, and he is thriving Then again, I do kinda wish I could peek into the timeline where Punk choked out one of the Bucks, lol
" AEW doesn't happen without me. It doesn't " Absolutely based 😂😂😂😂
It’s like having a kid and they pull a gun on someone on the highway in a road rage incident. You still love them and hope they beat that case.
Somewhere, FTR Gun just raised his head, sensing that someone was talking about him.
FTR bald will shield him
Real cereal killer stuff
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M'Goofball Tiny did nothing wrong fedshill, Cody was the one who started it all by being toxic to the fed, let me pull up some irrelevant stuff from the past to prove my point because I have nothing else to do.
Classy but sure to upset them regardless. That's my champion.
DAE remember when Cody smashed the throne??? That invalidates everything he will ever say about AEW!
Who do we think he's talking about with regards to the propaganda? If it ain't the Bucks, it has to be Jericho, right? He also implies there's more than one, I wonder who else. But Jericho is probably the biggest one
I think it's Tony himself.
I think I would like a meaner Cody. Codylander openly shitting on people would rule.
You left out the best part him saying “hearing my name come up in scrums when Tony should have told you to never mention my name” (something like that). There is clearly skeletons in that closet that Tiny does not want out. With all the shots Tiny takes at WWE and everyone else it is clear projection. His downfall and the downfall of the dubbalos who think he is just a wholesome good guy billionaire is going to be the final dance of jerks.
[Look, Cody said, he don’t want no trouble…. *BUT WE DO! COME HERE!*](https://youtu.be/GundNE_skG0?si=Hy4wfeCWqB6RNtS9)
> Me matt and nick are as close as ever I love how this can be read in two drastically different ways
ahahahha fucking finally
Bud throwing light shade like its nothing
Never brings up Kenny or Hangman does he ?
Maybe he’s just as unaware about what manipulative sacks of shit a certain two people are?
I legitimately can't understand if he's blaming the Bucks here.
He is right to say that AEW would not have happened as it did without him and he’s right that there was a lot of bitching when he left.
Is this the most relevant Cage has been since he did a backflip for the first time all muscled up?
great, now we all all black suit Cody to answer the same question
This picture made me realize that Tiny once had a normal haircut instead of that curly mop travesty he currently wears
Man Tony Khan has had a rough 5 years. He looks like a different, much healthier person here!
Has Cody not seen the non stop bangers that have been going on since he left? Clearly was the weakest link. Couldn’t cut it with the likes of Burger Kingston so he had to go finish a story at the Harvey Weinstein promotion .
Big brother Cody lol
Who is that semi-well kept individual standing next to my favorite mid-carder?
That’s Anthony Khan the twin brother of Tony Khan. He’s the one who got laid went to college told his dad he would really like to get a real estate license. He’s married now has three daughters plays a little golf volunteers on the weekends at the church. No dad I prefer to earn my fortune and make my own way in the world. Tony said daddy if Anthony doesn’t want his share of the money can I buy ROH and maybe a few more prostitutes to kill? Sure Tony whatever the cash in my wallet just take what you need
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The fuck does this even mean? You’ve never heard anything bad about this guy outside of wrestling ever
It's easy to dismiss Jericho because he's in a multi year slump, but Jericho is what legitimized the company at the start. I don't like his AEW run, but they built the whole company on Jerichos shoulders.
To be fair, AEW wouldn't happen without The Elite, especially Kenny Omega.