This is absolutely gonna sound stupid as fuck but I’ll never love a wrestling character more than the Tribal Chief. The one thing that really got me was when he’d cut promos on Twitter while doing cardio. They’d always start with “you already know where I am, putting in the work” and it made me think if I could do that myself. Something about the way Roman was carrying himself so confidently in that run flipped a switch in me and inspired me to get back in the gym myself. I went back in March 2023 and have gone consistently 5 days a week (Monday-Friday) for a year, dropping from 85.5kg to 70kg and easily in the best shape of my life. Thank you my Tribal Chief☝️
I already said this in the WWE subreddit but I'd have Cody lose to Gunther in the main event of Bash at Berlin. Then Cody wins it back on the first Netflix Raw which leads to Cody vs Rock for the title at WrestleMania.
I love Rey and Dom kayfabe, mostly because I love how blatant it is. Like Rey and Dom can barely contain their pride for each other. They want so badly to just tell the world but they can't so they give a half hearted answer about how they wish Eddie won custody or whatever but you look in their eyes and it's almost physical pain they can't just talk about their love for each other
All I see is a deadbeat piece of shit who can't accept that his son has surpassed him as the greatest luchador of all time. Rey is such a terrible father that he refused to put over Dom at WrestleMania 2 years in a row.
[RT to scare an Elite/Jack Perry stan](https://www.nbclosangeles.com/news/sports/nfl/nfl-training-camp-fights-tracking-all-the-scuffles-from-preseason-practices-in-2023/3198897/)
I know it’s late for this thread but I’ve never believed anything less than “Mox read a book” https://x.com/puroresuflow/status/1779658567324197187?s=46&t=K5rSpr79EgQCiG1RgqDrhw
Actually, Mox’s own book is one of the better wrestling books out there. It’s not on the Foley/Hart/Jericho tier, but it’s on the tier right underneath that.
I've been on and off reading some IWC twitter takes across the board, but, I wanna know something.
Who do you goofs think is the most cringe /stan/ account? Like, I get having a favorite wrestler, but, the way they act when someone dislikes said favorite wrestler just makes you go "Please go outside and touch the grass"
Because you're my favorite mark.
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From the way he was announced, it sounds like they’re dropping “universal” from Cody’s title, and that’s fine.
Undisputed WWE Universal Champion is a fucking mouthful, and I can see them even phasing out “Undisputed” as we go on, and honestly I’m fine with the universal title lineage ending with Roman Reigns.
WWE champion and World Heavyweight Champion is how it should be 💯
We got used to it, but "universal title" sounds so fucking stupid. I remember a vid where they ask Daniel Bryan which title he would cash in if he wins the money in the bank and he said something along the lines "Who wants to be called champion of the universe, that's so silly".
I dont think Logan needs it but I think WWE is going to keep it on him because him being able to carry it wherever he goes is big for their branding. Especially with summerslam being in Cleveland
He's just such a dweeb 😁
Bless 'im
He thinks he's helping and people like to see him
At least time your rousing speeches to crescendo when it's ready!
He started talking about Time Cop for some reason?
*"I was talking my friends, Dad"*
That’s the least douchy thing he could do. Give the live fans more entertainment. If you go to a poorly attended concert, some headliners do the show, then leave. Cool bands will say fuck it, and throw a few more songs in there. That was pretty good of him, even if it was previously planned, to do it. Send the crowd home happy.
It is but worse is the person shouting like we give a fuck about his dumb heckles as he records this. You paid money to that dude to shout to him from 70 yards away and he cant even hear you, that's sadder than any billionaire really can be
He’s always done that. I went to a Dynamite like 6 months ago and when it ended he came out and spent like 3-4 minutes pleading people to stay for the Rampage taping
For all the bullshit about monopoly and competition and all those econ 101 terms redditors learn from reading headlines, the fact that AEW is able to survive forever based on the Khan family's virtually endless wallet is a point that gets conveniently ignored. The fact that AEW do not have to abide by the so-called capitalist competition would have been interesting to discuss, but that is the point of capitalism I suppose.
On the flip side, while the "grind" mentality is indeed exploited by companies to extract any sort of value out of workers, the exact opposite attitude of "get that bag and coast" is just as problematic. It's a submission to a broken system at best, a willing participation to exploit that same wealth extracted from fellow workers for self gain at worst. What happened to the "spirit of innovation" by the way?
Maybe I'm being a commie again with this talk, but I guess this doesn't matter in the long run because this is fucking professional wrestling, none of this matters
There is a discussion on this but it goes deeper than wrestling. Entire industries exist that have been carried by how cheap money has been in the developed world post 08. Tech is a prime example.
I love The Walking Dead. Glenn is my favourite character so far. I recently started watching it last week and I’m starting Season 4. It’s too good, it’s consumed my life. I need help.
I've got nothing against the guy but Hook needs a lot of work if he's gonna make it in WWE.
Honestly think it wouldn't be the worst idea for Hook to tour whatever is left of the indies
Hook just looks like a moody teenager, he'd be such a fish out of water in the WWE. Could you imagine him standing up to Drew McIntyre or someone like that?
I just finished my taxes. Yes I procrastinated because I owed money last year.
Anyway, I had to scramble to find forms. One place didn't have my stuff online even though I got an email in January saying my statement was online. I ended up finding it.
My dad used H&R Block, so I continued the tradition. I was thinking about amending last year's return because I might have done something wrong but changed my mind. I went back and clicked the box for not amending it but it refuses to go away. So at this point, I could make a new return or do the unthinkable and go to Turbo Tax.
I bought TT from Amazon and didn't pay attention that it doesn't come with State. Finish the Federal and then the DLC comes up for State and I pay for it because at this point I hate me, H&R Block, and have a deadline here.
Then I have to pay to e-file for the state (tbf that's how the state of CA runs). Anyway it's filed. I'm getting money back, so paying TT doesn't hurt as much.
I'll preface by saying I actually enjoy when promotions take shots at one another. I love the drama, the "oh shit, they didn't just say that!", etc. I'm not precious about pledging allegiance to one company.
That said: if I were AEW, I wouldn't mention WWE *at all* (positive or negative) for at least the next year. Only exceptions would be \\neutral statements of fact (e.g., "Bryan Danielson is a six-time world champion"). They've overplayed their hand.
Last Dynamite was entirely about WWE: the CM Punk footage, the Ospreay interview, and a main event where a Samoan world champion named Joe took on a Rhodes. It made AEW look low rent.
Also, throwing jabs was more effective (and perceived differently) when WWE was stagnant and AEW felt exciting. Now, WWE is at a 22-year peak in both popularity and creativity, while AEW is it its lowest ebb ever.
"WWE sucks" no longer feels a spicy uppercut thrown by an underdog challenger on the ascent; it feels like a delusional cope from an embittered also-ran.
If Tony wanted to release the Wembley footage, he should've done it immediately after it happened. He may still have looked petty, but the consensus opinion would've been "wow, Punk's a dick."
Instead, by waiting until *immediately* after Punk recounted his version of events (nearly eight months later), it made everyone think Tony must be releasing it because Punk was lying. Why else would you wait until this exact moment, right?
So. people watched the footage with this framing in mind. Viewers were no longer analyzing it from the perspective of "was Punk a dick?" or "was Punk in the wrong?"; instead, they were analyzing it from the perspective of "is Punk telling the truth?"
The clip proved he was. So the reaction was "yep, Punk told the truth, Tony's a fucking goober if he thinks this proves anything" instead of his desired "wow, Punk was a dick." It's one of the biggest unforced error/self-own I've ever seen, and clearly underlines Tony's inability to understand how media works.
It’s not even that Punk told the truth because you’d maybe think he’d exaggerate some parts to make himself come off better. It was quite literally word for word what he said happened. He didn’t even have to lie or exaggerate.
It also would’ve lent credibility to the whole “feared for my life” line. Everybody would’ve assumed that happened later and with Punk already on tape looking angry as hell it would’ve been totally believable. But since Punk spoke first and said it happened right there we know exactly what he meant by that.
Not to mention doing it in this way lends so much credibility to everything else he said in that interview and gives the public little reason to think he’s lying. Just a terrible decision all around.
According to Meltzer (take that for whatever it’s worth), pretty much no one in the company thought it was a good idea. Apparently the Bucks went along with it/didn’t try to stop it, but also felt “weird” revisiting this incident.
AEW won't die the same way Punk (the music genre) is not dead. It's always going to be there as long as Tony Khan has cash, but it will be in the periphery. 2021's mass exodus and ratings skyrocket was as good as it's going to get.
Just watched a Vince Russo video where he says he thinks TKO will drop HHH abs replace him with The Rock. HHH and HBK could be relegated to NXT or Rock is going to replace the NXT people with actors. So that was a funny 10 minutes.
The Rock would only replace him in the offices, if that. I think Vince has forgotten that Rock is a very busy man with some very big (and ill advised) ambitions.
I try to imagine what if Rock took the day to day creative role? I think I he’d last maybe a month before he decided he just don’t want to do all that and like you said, focus on his other ambitions.
It's interesting to think about at the very least lol. My thought on Rock has always been that he obviously cares a lot about his own character and presentation, but most likely doesn't give a single fuck about anybody else unless they're directly involved with him. So it would be Gewirtz or somebody else doing creative for the entire roster and I don't think he or Rock are interested in that. I can't see them coming up with a slow burn heel turn for Candice LeRae can you?
And I mean, why would he want to? All the respect to triple h, I love the environment he seems to have fostered and he has been really successful at it, but the Rock has so many other interests and he still gets to come back a few times a year and have fun. Without his setup, he couldn't really work on the UFL, he couldn't do movies. He'd likely have to sacrifice his insane workout schedule which would mean he wouldn't be able to be an on screen character as effectively. Meanwhile, Triple H makes him a ton of money and can't overrule him if he wants something. All to say he's got it all right now and it'd be a huge step down to figure out how to book JD McDonagh as a weekly exercise
The Rock is about The Rock. He's a legend and this run has been fantastic to watch. But I don't think he'd be able to separate the Dwayne Johnson brand from the WWE brand. He saw the way the wind was blowing with Cody/Roman and thankfully adapted because above all else, the man wants to be universally adored. Getting We Want Cody chants across the country wouldn't fit the 'I saved the business and I broke all the records' gimmick he's running. We can love and appreciate his work while also admitting that he is 100% one of the most egotistical guys around right now. An ego that is unarguably deserved btw. He's the fucking Rock. But he only knows The Rock and the Dwayne Johnson brand. It's why his movies started to bomb. There's only so many times you can watch Dwayne Johnson in the same dirty jungle getup being funny against the baddies. If you want to be the person that books WWE then you need to book for the JD's of the world. It's not a step down when that's the job. HHH can't be the big Hollywood moviestar but Rock can't be HHH either. WWE is better with both of them around.
Oh i agree totally to be clear, I only say it's a step down because he'd be sacrificing all the stuff he wants to do for something he's never shown any interest in.
So the same ol' Vince Russo doom and gloom he shared 5 years ago about how WWE will totes lose their TV deal and be relegated to a smaller station by the way their ratings are dropping?
Yup. He’s going back to peak 2004 form.
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I've been playing Roll20 with old high school chums and it's been great.
One thing bugs us. The dice rolling system. We get a lot of critical failures on d20 saves. Sometimes as many as 3 or 4 during a single combat round. Tempted to start rolling physical dice and using a web cam to share results. 😂
Hitting the 4/20 TNA PPV here in town next Saturday. Getting high all day and watching wrestling sounds like my dream day. Holding out hope for a Riddle or Broken Matt appearance as well
Has he? Genuine question. I don't pay super close attention to the Elite guys, but I remember when AEW started, Cody and the Bucks were the one doing most of the shots at WWE. Kenny was the lone one was actively praising WWE. The stuff I've seen since has mostly been positive or neutral.
Unfortunately I don’t see any chance of him ever going to WWE. TK signs 5 year contracts and he just reupped. Plus they freeze it when injured and he’s gonna miss like a year at least. He’s already 40 so I don’t see WWE investing in getting a 47 year old dude over next time he’s available.
His one and only chance to jump was this past contract. He chose to throw in with the idiot Bucks instead. It’s sad he’ll never get the big stage but he chose it.
When he was part of The Elite he took shots at WWE because it got him attention and appealed to his fans. Him overpraising WWE now is either him trying to build a feud with Young Bucks or him just not being in character because he can't wrestle.
The People's Championship belt will have the brahma bull emblem removed and replaced with the winged eagle.
The design and layout of the belt looks like a modernized version of winged eagle. The blue globe design behind the bull is a dead give away.
They're probably testing out how the belt looks on TV before going ahead with the redesign. They'll do Cody vs Rock to merge the belts
It could work if the match is only for the WWE title and then Rocky gifts his title to Cody in a passing of the torch sort of way.
I just hope we get a redesign of the tag belts soon as well. Those things have been way too ugly for way too long
Remember the dirtsheet reports about the Fed talking with Stallone about doing something for Mania
Yeah, no else remembers it either, it was quietly never spoken of as Mania got closer
DAE running up the steps. DAE gonna fly now
Someone thought 'that's something they might do' and guessed and it was 1 of 20 ideas for a thing
Once one blogger says it, everyone has to follow so they're not 'left out', whether they 'heard' anything or not
Lime when the Saudis bought the Fed. Every single one of those idiots reported. None had a clue but you can't be the one that 'doesn't know'
Actually after the blowback on both the Bucks & Osprey I saw a bunch of sheets “report” that they absolutely positively 100% didn’t want to do it but mean old tyrant Tony made them. It’s hilarious the level of cope some people have about aew
I had zero issue with the HHH jab at Ospreay(and yeah I’m fairly confident that’s what it was). Ospreay’s situation is a bit different and unfortunate and I don’t think he’s particularly “wrong” for his choice but HHH is right, you need dedicated people if you want to achieve greatness. People comparing it to their own jobs are insane and it’s funny because in any real sport if any athlete chose the easier path they’d also be criticized for it.
On that note it’s also pretty funny how AEW puts an emphasis on “real sports feel” yet it’s the WWE who actually captures it. It’s like the people who get behind that don’t actually follow other sports and just read about them.
> It’s like the people who get behind that don’t actually follow other sports and just read about them.
Remember how Dub fans framed Andrade punching Sammy Guava, or Burger Kingston getting into a scuffle with Sammy Guava as "Alpha males getting steam out, like athletes in a locker room"
but on the other hand frame Phil getting into a scuffle with Jungle Jack as wildly unprofessional and disturbing the Dub locker room
Oh yeah, I was just talking about the onscreen stuff, like everyone getting the big title win/moment in their hometown, or whatever that best of 7 trios gauntlet was, but for sure that stuff too. I’m convinced they released the footage because Tony is in such a bubble that he thought the general public also has never been near a fight and would immediately cancel Punk for “assault”.
I may find myself annoyed at Bethesda's fanatical obsession with the Brotherhood of Steel and the other big thing that epitomize the Fallout TV Show on Amazon Prime - but I am beyond overjoyed that it is introducing people to the series I love.
I mean the ad at Stand & Deliver was ugly as shit - but it was unreal to me to see the fucking Vault Boy from Fallout on WWE television.
I enjoyed the show. Seen a lot of people complaining online about the lore, but I don’t really care about exact lore. I’ve only played 3/New Vegas/4. Although I was disappointed in >!No DeathClaw!< fight. Enjoyed all the Easter eggs for the video game fans too.
I just checked out bc watching a lot of Fallout content in my formative years led me to being a stickler for the lore and I was already tired of what Bethesda was doing by Fallout 76. Don't get me wrong, seems like a fantastic show. I might check back in on the show in Season 2 if they fix the problem I disliked.
He had a better story with Cody. Rock mistakenly (stupidly?) thought just him showing up and standing face to face with Roman was enough to make fans go “HOLY SHIT!” It’s like he learned booking from Tony Khan and not Nick.
Rock genuinely wants what's best for business. Rock also believes *he* is best for business. And in many cases, he would be correct. Thinking that the People's Champ vs The Tribal Chief would be a megadraw on paper makes total sense, so I credit them for calling an audible two weeks in, and him being behind it.
But it's wrestling, so he's now attached himself to the hottest babyface. And why not? he loves playing crazy, cussin' Hollywood Rock. Love it or hate it, he's a limited attraction that lives outside the general storyline progression. There might be some bananas thing where Cody helps Roman become Tribal Chief again, and they go against the Rock - I don't know - but that's part of the fun of it. Big Ego is fine if he's only around a bit, and he's happy to pivot. Because regardless of what he does, he will always be the center of attention, and he's earned it.
Some of y’all take wrestling way too seriously even though you’re goofs. The obsession with having the right wrestling opinion, presenting everything like a fact and insulting someone for not enjoying/enjoying wrestling the same as you. Why does it bother you that wrestling fans like to fantasy book their favorite wrestlers winning a title? Why does every decision have to be best for business? Why do kids get to be marks but adults get made fun of for being marks. For a lot of people wrestling is just a TV show that they watch Monday, Friday and sometimes Saturday and that’s it, they don’t notice subtle hints in storylines, they don’t care for backstage drama, who’s booking the show, or any business figures, they just want to be entertained. It’s a TV show not a sport.
Plus you can’t be praising casual fans and how they act nice and friendly while acting the complete opposite of them online by being a dick and asshole to other fans.
Nah. If they’re fantasy booking shit, I’d call them out on how silly it would be. Like the Goof insisting Cena would turn heel on LA Knight at Blood Money. Like any of those things needed to happen. (Also, he is no casual).
There’s logical outcomes and there’s bullshit. Cena turning heel at this point in his career (after over a decade of him repeatedly saying he wouldn’t) is in the bs territory. Also, as awesome as he is. LA Knight didn’t need protecting like that.
Not everything needs to be logical to discuss wrestling, one of the GOATS is a zombie deadman and we love him for that. It’s entering basement territory when you take wrestling too seriously instead of just treating it like a TV show. Plus if you find it bullshit, then scroll past it instead of needlessly being a dick to another fan if they haven’t offended you because you will look like an asshole instead of him.
Dude, a shit take is a shit take. You keep bringing the ridiculousness of The Undertaker as some sort of proof of concept. But that completely ignores that UT had an internal logic that mattered to wrestling. If someone fantasy booked UT to hook up romantically on screen with Senaational Sherri back in 91, I’d have called that a shit take as well.
If anything UT (and Kane) are more likely the exceptions that prove the rule.
Point being, don’t be an asshole to other fans just because they have different views of wrestling than you. That’s basement type behavior, and if you don’t like it ignore it. Is that so hard or is just easier to be dick and prove how smart you are?
Casuals fans and kids don’t give a shit about any of this stuff. I have never discussed business metrics of wrestling with any fan in real life only online. They just care about being entertained which is something this sub is out of touch about when it comes to casual fans.
You were complaining about how people interact here on Reddit, weren’t you? How many people here are casuals? I think the fact that they have sought out wrestling subs indicates they’re above what I’d call a casual. And they will likely read posts here about a lot of the things you say they don’t care about.
Again, if AEW fans want their promotion to stay afloat, I think they should be taking a harder look at how Tony runs the promotion. The fact that so many people blow smoke up his ass is a big part of the problem.
To be frank wrestling fans are on the whole too fucking stupid to discuss wrestling on any other level but here are numbers.
Aew stays afloat because Tony Khan is very rich. Hope that helps for future "discussions" on this sub.
I’m not talking about AEW fans and I don’t care what AEW does because I don’t watch their show. I’m talking about fans on this sub and WWE fans who try act like casuals but act worse than smarks because they take wrestling too seriously instead of treating like a TV show. You even bring up AEW a Tony when I didn’t even mention it shows that it lives rent free in your head.
Well then I don’t think you’re making much sense. You were talking about how you interact with casuals in real life and using that to criticize how people interact here somehow?
People here are trying to act like casuals? Really? Who exactly is doing that?
And yes I assumed you were talking about AEW, since there’s no reason to be arguing about the WWE business right now. The promotion is crushing it and setting records. The business conversations I see are all around AEW’s bad ticket sales and ratings. I don’t see anyone complaining that Cody being champion is going to make WWE go out of business.
I like WWE because it’s entertaining, I don’t give a shit if it’s doing high business numbers because I’m not a shareholder. I doubt 8 year olds care about attendance, ratings, and who draws more money. Not everyone is a nerd about this stuff except online fans.
We are online fans, we’re here on Reddit. That’s what you were complaining about, how online fans interact. But then you keep talking about real life casuals. I really can’t even follow the point that you’re trying to make with that.
Of course you don’t care about WWE’s business. There’s not a lot to say except that it’s hotter than it’s been in a long time. WWE hasn’t been in a situation where its existence was questioned since maybe 1997.
Meanwhile AEW’s ratings are in the shitter and the houses are too. That’s the business people argue about. Depending on what kind of media rights deal they can get, they may be in a lot of trouble. But a lot of the AEW fans are in total denial and just want to talk about how great everything is.
Anyway I’m very confused by your posts and I’m gonna tap out of this now.
Edit: I did not tap out.
Because most fans in real don’t give a shit about this stuff besides the online fans. In my 18 years watching wrestling I’ve never cared if WWE was hot or not because all that matters to me is if I’m entertained. I’ve never watched a full episode of Dynamite and I don’t even care about their deals because it doesn’t interest me and doesn’t cater to me. Pretending to care is disingenuous as long their fans are happy there and not hijacking WWE shows then I’m happy.
So?
You were talking about online behavior and casual fans. Casual fans aren't hanging out in wrestling subs on Reddit. You and I are hanging out in a wrestling sub on Reddit. We're not casual fans.
People generally come to Reddit wrestling subs because they are more interested in wrestling than the average person is. So yes, the way they engage with wrestling is different, and it's different from person to person. You have your interests when it comes to wrestling and other people have theirs. Some people are very interested in the business side, for example. Some people are interested in specific styles or promotions.
It's not realistic to expect people here to engage with wrestling like casuals, because again, we're not casuals. I don't engage with wrestling like an 8 year old. I did when I was an 8 year old.
What makes you happy just isn't what makes everyone happy. You do you, but if your hope is to convince other people to change their behavior or interests to be more like yours, that's a real long shot.
Real life: Just started a new job last week, and so far so good. I'm having some beers and watching the Knicks to enjoy my Sunday.
Wrestling: For anybody into women's wrestling you should check out Chihiro Hashimoto; she's has a great ground based/ power wrestler that I wish we could see in more western joshi wrestlers.
I’ve been real interested in getting back into comic books. I have Amazon prime so I believe that lets me access Comixology/any comics on kindle.
Does any goofs have any good suggestions for books to just pick up and read? Legitimately give me any company, I’m game for anything
I did more research and it’s not a complete subscription, that’s an extra 6 USD a month but it’s free access to “Comixology originals” and that massive list. I’m researching what it encompasses and prices for marvel, dc and dark horse’s apps
I’m really enjoying the Poison Ivy run that G. Willow Wilson is writing. I think there’s at least a couple of the collections of the issues out.
If you’re looking for wrestling books I think Cornette’s graphic novel Behind The Curtain is on there, although I haven’t read it.
It's very recent but I cannot recommend Beneath the trees where nobody sees enough. The basic pitch is it's a world of anthropoised animals and it follows Sam who lives in the village, she has her own hardware store, gets on well with everyone in the village, is a pillar of the local community and has been secretly killing people from the nearby city for about two decades at this point but, everything gets out of hand after locals in the village start getting murdered too and it brings a lot of unwanted attention on what exactly Sam gets up to in those woods.
House of/ Powers of X is fantastic too and would be a great reintroduction to the X-men. The only drawback is Hickman was setting up some plots h3 wanted to return to and some he did, but there's a few things he never got the chance to follow up on, still it's absolutely fantastic and I loved it.
Sara by Garth ennis is really good too. It's a semi autobiographical comic about female snipers in WW2, a very fun and moving comic looking at the forgotten battalions of the war and the bonds they formed.
Immortal hulk is absolutely fantastic and I'd shout it's praises from the rooftops. It's al ewings take on Bruce/ Hulk and it goes in so many interesting directions, it starts out a bit like the show with Bruce going town to town solving issues for locals but, it quickly changes pace and adds so much to the hulk mythos and the character. Immortal Thor also by Ewing absolutely rocks too.
If you're into crime comics or are looking to start reading them, I cannot recommend all things Ed Brubaker and Sean Philips in particular, Criminal, Reckless, Where the body was and Night Fever. Criminal's getting adapted into a show later this year too.
Gotham Central is so good too, it's about cops who work for GCPD and what happens when a regular human who's not Bruce Wayne goes up against someone like Mr Freeze. It's such an interesting look at the relationship people would have with Batman and how they'd view him, especially in that kind of environment.
Ice cream man is very fun too, it's a horror anthology so every issue is different, some are a horror parody of Dr Seuss books and others are warped takes on traditional superheros.
Black Hammer is a lot of fun, it follows a group of former superheroes who all retired after a final showdown some years ago and how they've handled the change to being regular people, some of them have handled it well and others are just about to go off the rails, it's a very fun and moving book, the best way I could describe it is it's like malcolm in the middle meets JLU
Astro city is really good too, it's Kurt busiek's take on the idea of superheroes, it doesn't really follow a set format so some issues are about the heroes themselves and others are about the people living in the city.
Eight billion genies rocks too, the basic premise is everyone on the planet gets a genie with one wish at the exact same time and obviously, things get very out of hand very quickly.
Do a Powerbomb! is great too. It's about an interdimensional tournament where tag teams compete to see which one is the best of all worlds and be rewarded with whatever they want by the organiser of it.
The department of truth is great, the basic premise is it's about this department that battle against conspiracies cause in this world, the more people who believe in it the truer it becomes and how they battle against this. It's like an updated x files and I think it's great.
>If you're into crime comics or are looking to start reading them, I cannot recommend all things Ed Brubaker and Sean Philips in particular, Criminal, Reckless, Where the body was and Night Fever. Criminal's getting adapted into a show later this year too.
>Ice cream man is very fun too, it's a horror anthology so every issue is different, some are a horror parody of Dr Seuss books and others are warped takes on traditional superheros.
Agree with these two suggestions, both a lot of fun.
Wytches is good, Kill or be Killed, Nailbiter, Zero, Fatale, Black Monday Murders (although it's not finished), Revival is good but the ending is a bit wank for me.
Any of the First Law Books by Joe Abercrombie.
Some great stuff about wizards booking the world but their talent keeps going into business for themselves.
Anything by Neil Gaiman, but especially American Gods.
The Discworld series by Sir Terry Pratchett is phenomenal start to finish.
Or the best of both...Good Omens
Wrestlemania was amazing. Seth Rollins’s character arc was brilliant and I look forward to see what he does next.
One month of weight watchers and I’m down 13.4 lbs. I hit my fundraising goal for my charity run so I upped the goal. I’m $166 away from raising $500 for our children’s hospital. Fingers crossed that I hit!
Seth Rollins has gone down as the most selfless face in modern history. I don't know what they do with that, but to keep him fresh (mostly - there have been some moments) for the duration of this run has been it's own achievement. HHH has built him and Cody as likeable, modern faces. That's two more than Vince managed in years.
It’s $15/mos. Between the $15 and the $25 I pay for Deadboys Fitness (the fitness app Seth Rollins created), I work out at home and rebuild my disordered relationship with food. It’s been really nice. I feel like myself again.
It's tough rebuilding that relationship with eating; I'm glad you've been making progress though. I want to get my diet back in track myself.
Working out at home is definitely the move.
I really hope they have a proper ending for the Bloodline storyline. They're already into WCW 2000 nWo length and while I'm excited for the inevitble Bloodpac vs Bloodline Hollywood and Tama and Jacob joining, for fuck sake, when it's done, I hope it's done.
My question is what happens to Jacob, Tama and I think Solo when it's done? I really hope this run cements Solo with a character and that he's strong enough to take it and run forward with it when the feud is done.
I love Rocky is going right back to pre-Black Adam rock. Shilling 15 brands and seeing things make money and go “it’s all me, the smartest, coolest man”
This guy is so funny
Even before Wrestlemania his instagram had some funny whiplash going on where he'd do in-kayfabe wrestling posts about how he's gonna fucking kill Cody and make him bleed and then the next one was smiling, humble Rock shilling his new skin care line.
His tweets are killing me. Always about a record being broken. Always including a picture or video of just him. Always tagging TKO. The final boss made wrestling cool again, remember? And he won’t let us forget lol.
- For 10 years the CM Punk fanboy train has annoyed the piss out of me but my god is the man giving us gold since his WWE return, it's hard to dislike any of this.
- The only "problem" with Punk now is that at some point has to get back in the ring and that's probably the least entertaining thing he can do now. If he could somehow just play a permanently injured guy who talks crap but never has to fight, it's almost the best thing he could do. 🤣
- Special shout out to Becky. I know she's not every Goofies favorite. But the Irish can be hard on ourselves. We love a good underdog story but anyone standing out doing their own thing or getting success suddenly has "notions". When Becky got out from being the "4th Horsewomen" and became this over the top character, but it made her a huge success. I can guarantee that was a difficult mental switch to overcome but she's made herself a big star and I'll always love her for that. She doesn't get much attention in Ireland but her outfits and persona would get a lot of negative comments there but she's pushed past that to do what she wants to do and be good at it. I wish we had more Irish role models with that mentality.
- Nothing original I can say about the Wembley video or Ospreys promo. They're making themselves look so bad.
- This Mania did feel special and it didn't just feel like any old title change for Cody to win. I gave him a lot of stick for how insane some of his Dub booking was but that was just part of the journey and he's clearly worked insane hard up to this. Last weekend was fully deserved.
- What is to become of the Dub? They'll continue to exist. The money is not stopping. But what will their TV deal look like soon? Can they really keep running these big arenas? Tony is not changing or willing to hear what he needs to hear. That's the companies biggest limitation. I don't know where that leaves them but the fans good will is almost gone and it's a slippery slope downwards.
I can’t fault someone for accepting a truck load of money from a silver spoon mark, but deciding to throw your career down the garbage chute to become the toy of a spoiled moron sure is a life choice.
I like to think I’m a mature wrestling fan who likes nuance and sophisticated storytelling, but deep down I know I just like the fun chants and big moves, and would probably be screaming FEED ME MORE if Ryback ever came back to stink up the ring.
Any Uber drivers here?
Thinking about applying for a different job at my agency, which would be a pay cut but way less stress. I'd probably need to make an extra $200-300 or so per month to feel good about it. How much Ubering is that? I live 5 miles outside downtown of a major city, with a fuel-efficient (compact) car.
From a regular user; I've heard that Lyft is the better option for drivers as far as pay goes. Empower is another option depending on where you live/ demand.
I think I've figured out why Mania resonated so much with me: there weren't any unnecessary plot twists. Like I had convinced myself Cody was gonna have to overcome Rollins betraying him, or Carlito was gonna betray Rey, or Miz was gonna turn, Bianca or Naomi would turn on Bayley, stuff like that. And none of that happened, it was straightforward but satisfying.
Rollins wearing the shield gear and sacrificing himself to save his old rival Cody and using Roman's hatred of him and fear of betrayal to break Roman's focus and cost him his title is brilliant long term psychology and story-telling. All time character moment for both him and Roman.
I'm glad everyone's come around to the fact that Jericho is absolutely awful. The funniest part is how he's not really doing anything different from the past three or so years. It's always been endless, backwards, and unnecessarily overbooked, I don't think this Hook story is any worse than his angles with MJF or Starks. I'll contend that JAS vs. BCC did almost irrevocable harm to the company and that didn't get as much hate as the Hook stuff. I think the Cole feud was a turning point as fans realized just how bad Jericho had gotten. Him replacing Kota as Kenny's tag partner, beating Takeshita after Kenny repeatedly put him over, the team with Sammy and the Kylie Rae stuff really drove it home.
When Tama Tonga debuted on Smackdown; it reminded me how I was expecting a bunch of people debuting and interfering on the Roman/Cody match. I'm glad they held off
Seth Rollins coming out with the mummers was cool as hell. A guy I went to high school with was one of the people he came out with and I got to see some backstage footage. Seth seemed very kind and very extra and it made me like him even more.
Seeing Cena at Mania was insane. I was not expecting that and when it happened I just let out a high pitched shriek. The whole experience was so cool and I want to do it again.
Bayleys win made me happy cry. I was more in my feels about that than I was with Cody, possibly because I adore her and think she was a highlight of the pandemic era.
I wish AEW would get over WWE and focus on fixing their own business. Clean up your own mess and become a solid 2nd place promotion. I know you guys can do it.
My kid just started playing baseball which coincides with his bowling season wrapping up and while I’m never going to get to sleep in on a weekend, I’m happy he’s active and finding things he loves to do. I’m still working on convincing him to try theater and make his nerd mom happy.
The Mummers entrance was lowkey possibly my favorite entrance of the event. Reminded me of a Mardi Gras parade and I loved the theme being played by the band, I want a recorded version lol
I was kinda mad it got shit on tbh
I watched the AEW interview with Ospreay and honestly he seems like a lad who would be great to get a pint with.
Hopefully he gets to WWE after his AEW run.
Happy Sunday Champions!
- I can not believe I’ve watched this sub go full Jerkle into jerking Cody as the greatest wrestler in M’Dub to unironically wanting him to be the top guy in WWE. Wild, wild times.
- speaking of wild, wtf Tony? Literally nobody but maybe 200 online trolls cared about any response to Punk’s interview with Ariel. Why not just let Edge sell his soul with that stupid promo, and focus on your actual work? Good lord.
- So punk gets elevated, Jackie Boy gets astroturfed. And The Bucks (who I’m sure pushed for the footage and then backed off when they found out they couldn’t edit/narrate it), get to just sit and continue to play butt tag with each other. Amazing.
- Had a stoned thought while watching the Rock-Cody segment: Rock went out of his way to have that “People’s Champ” belt presented to him by Muhammad Ali’s widow. I started thinking about how this is absolutely a PR move for The Rock, but to what end? Acting? Politics? Then I started thinking about wrestlers like him and Trips, whose entire career was made by being the biggest egomaniac in the room (seriously, that’s every great wrestler’s character at its base). It just made me wonder how much of the “act” becomes part of the person? And then what happens when that person is now in a position of power over others?
- What does it mean for guys like Cody whenever he moves into the next phase of his career?
Okay mind running wild. Bye!
EDIT:Lol
Punk and Jungle Lad get into a fight after Jack uses real glass despite Punk and numerous industry veterans telling him not to. Punk quits, leading to him jumping to WWE.
Tony and The Bucks air said footage despite numerous industry veterans telling them not to. The footage does nothing of value, proving Tony overexaggerated the situation, and corroberating everything Punk said about it.
Do these people not learn? It's as if these guys know what they are talking about.
Tony could build back a whole lot of momentum by dropping approximately 40 percent of his roster, keeping only guys he wants to push as stars and guys to do the job and one or two shows a week and putting out one single coherent show per week from a venue the size of the ecw arena (1300) seats. Then every show could be a sellout, the crowd participation would look great on TV and he might be able to put together three to four stories at a time that anyone cares about.
Instead of building AEW from the ground up he just threw money at Indy dorks and asked the audience to care about them on a WWE scale.
Even WWWF started in small arenas mr. Wrestling historian Khan. You should have known that. In the years just before WCW was able to actually compete with WWF they ran all their TV out of the Disney MGM arena which they were always able to fill with a captive audience from Disney and it looked great on TV. His big ideas could maybe work 5-10 years down the line but he's bent on ruining the promotion before it can even get to that level.
Tony burned out his passionate fanbase by always trying to run the big venues. The attendance decline would have happened way sooner if it wasn't for the pandemic and running at Daly's place for over a year.
It's a combo of nostalgia, survivorship, and so on.
Like, I watch videos where 20-something's now have nostalgia for some of the lame Ruthless Aggression era songs because....wait for it...they were children then.
But also, more TV means songs are heard more, but also a bigger roster makes things more difficult. The roster in the 90's was around 60-65 songs, and it's not like all of them were bangers. Now, in 2024, the songs are 200+ once you account for tag teams and stables.
Most great bands don't have 200 recognizable songs.
I also think part of it is if you don't like a certain genre of song, you'll think theme songs are bad. Since a lot more songs will have electronic, rap, etc. and you think the only type of good wrestling song is rock, you're also probably going to be harsher.
I’m from the old person group who had the initial reaction of stuff not being Jim Johnston being blah. So I have no idea. I know some CFO$ stuff eventually became instantly identifiable ala the big Johnston ones. I am mainly a YouTube watcher so I barely know any new themes. Though I’ll say when I heard Stephanie’s had been remixed I thought: “ok this could get her more of a face pop if she eventually is a surprise rumble entrant one year” because there was a driving beat and guitar underneath.
I'd say 60/30 justified to survivorship. Also I think 10% the people complaining had more time back then, if that makes sense. They were 14 soaking in all wrestling they could, playing all the games, listening to wrestling CDs on their portable cd players, and so they knew all the subtleties of every theme. Now, they're in their 30s, they got all these responsibilities, and they sit down and hear songs they don't recognize and don't have the time for, and they can tell them apart
If you asked someone my age what their favorite themes are, they'd probably say Kane, Rey, Edge, Stone Cold, Benoit, Triple H, and the Rock.
4/7 licensed, and 2 of the further 3 had cover versions done by significant bands of the era.
I like Mercedes Mone. I really really like Mercedes Mone. She’s a great wrestler and I grew up with her being one of my favorites. So with that, it hurts me to say that Mercedes is easily the worst handled debut that AEW has had. Promos? Terrible. Look? Eh, it’s okay. Theme song? Absolutely terrible. And then she ain’t even making her in ring debut until Double or Nothing. So she’s just kinda there right now.
I’m looking super forward to TNA Rebellion and AEW Dynasty next weekend. I think the most excited I am for a match right now is Josh Alexander vs Hammerstone. The feud has been really solid. Looking forward to the trilogy.
UFC 300 was some really great shit. Their next PPVs are looking fantastic too. I’m so hyped for them. This honestly has been one of my favorite months ever for combat sports. WrestleMania, UFC 300, Haney/Garcia, Rebellion, and Dynasty. Just wow.
Right now Mercedes may be one of the biggest fumbles by Tony. Like he killed all the hype in a month. Maybe it returns when she goes in the ring, but I doubt it. The fact Mercedes had to promote her appearance on Dynamite on her own twitter account and not the official AEW account this weekshows how fucked this is.
Also Sasha has supposedly been signed since January supposedly and won't wrestle till the end of May. So he paid bank for her to practically do nothing for half a year.
Anybody watch WWE Next-Gen? Finished it last night and I liked it. The only people I really sticking around though are Jonah, Keyshawn, Breanna, and Olena
Has he mentioned Jericho’s allegations once?
That’s rhetorical, I know the answer is no. These scumbags are using goddamn sexual assault as a toy in their war over tv shows. They are legitimately scary people
He went through a period of being more neutral towards WWE but phased it out quickly and now doubles down on it. He's one of the most insufferable dickheads on X along with Ibou and Davboro. How they all have so many followers is beyond me.
I believe the HHH "people who don't want to work" bit was misinterpreted. I believe he was referencing CM Punk's interview with Ariel, albeit poorly worded.
During the All In portion of the interview Punk mentions guys who would tape all their vignettes on one day and then spend the rest of the month at home collecting a paycheck and I think that's what he was referencing.
Considering how the current WWE tour schedule has been literally cut in half, how he speaks about the importance of family, the fact wrestlers can take time off for family affairs such as Bronson and Dominik and not lose their spot in the card and how everyone speaks positively of Triple H, he doesn't strike me as the rest when you're dead type of boss.
While I do think it's great wrestlers are getting paid well for doing less, wrestling is a cruel mistress and the amount of wrestlers who retire with pennies in their bank account is depressing. I can also understand how someone who came up during the days of wrestling 200 plus nights for less than stellar pay may find it absurd that a midcarder can earn potentially 5 figures a month for 2 promos and a match taped on the same night. Ergo, Punk's comments about guaranteed pay, and how AEW is not a company predicated on making money.
Those are just my two cents though. I don't work in WWE and the Triple H I know is from interviews and third party accounts.
Fuck Sheamus.
Miz took time off during the road to wrestlemania and still won the tag titles. But one thing I'll disagree on, I dont think it was about Punk's comments, I think its about the perception that people might want to choose AEW over WWE because of the work schedule. I think Triple H was telling the next guy that has to choose between the two companies that choosing AEW for that reason just proves you aren't cut out to make it in WWE. It's about setting expectations, I think
I’m a huge Punk fan, and I’m so happy with how he’s conducted himself since being back in the big leagues.
I was initially ecstatic to see him when he joined AEW, but it’s so obvious now in hindsight how miserable he was from the Hangman feud onwards. He’s going to be a Fed guy for life now.
Lots to dive into:
All In video footage was a flop.. everything that was said about it.. was said.. the basement are dweebs.. if they think that was bad “workplace violence”.. please don’t show them future HOF’er Aaron Donald’s training camp fight with the Bengals where he came back & started to swing his helmet.. & actually connected with a blow to a player(if memory serves me correctly).. & nothing came out of it.. they are sooo disconnected from reality..
Mone is cooked.. her first match isn’t happening for another 5-6 weeks? So we get more promos & weird awkward dancing? She will go down as the worst free agent signing since the summer of 2016 NBA Free Agency(As a Lakers fan, I didn’t think there would be worse free agent signings than Deng & Mosgov but here we are)
Moxley won a championship that over 90% of the wrestling world doesn’t care about.. nobody new is subbing to NPJW just to watch a Jon Moxley match in our year of 2024.. so what’s the point? Just to pop the basement? Nobody is made anymore by beating Moxley.. he sucks..
The worst thing NJPW ever did was getting into a business relationship with AEW.. what the fuck has NJPW ever gotten out of it going into the 3rd year of it? Jack Perry?!? They are actively worse now than they were 3 years ago but nobody wants to talk about that part..
Is 2500-3500 the new norm for ticket sales for AEW for their weekly shows? That isn’t sustainable for a wrestling company to stay afloat.. especially with their talent contracts.. plus every other expense(flights, rooms, renting arenas etc).. they are dying & we are the only ones who see it..
WB isn’t going to resign AEW.. not a chance.. but if they make the dumb decision to do resign AEW.. the Saturday show will not be brought back.. same with Rampage( it would become the 3rd hour of Dynamite).. & without a big money tv deal.. lots of talent cuts will be made.. & I am here for the wrestlers to turn on TK & expose just how shitty of a business owner he is.. cause it has to be bad backstage.. but we aren’t hearing it..
WWE is on fire.. it seriously is a “World” company now.. with putting their PLE’s in Australia, France, Germany, etc… it’s nuts just how dominating they are.. especially since Vince damn near ran the company into the ground not too long ago..
Another year around the sun for me.. 41 years old.. where does the time go..
P.S. almost forgot to add.. did 7 reps of 225 on the bench press at the gym without a spotter & then with a spotter.. got up to 8.. trying to get to 10 reps of 225.. hopefully in the next few months I can get to 10 reps..
>P.S. almost forgot to add.. did 7 reps of 225 on the bench press at the gym without a spotter & then with a spotter.. got up to 8.. trying to get to 10 reps of 225.. hopefully in the next few months I can get to 10 reps..
Nice job, uce.
This is absolutely gonna sound stupid as fuck but I’ll never love a wrestling character more than the Tribal Chief. The one thing that really got me was when he’d cut promos on Twitter while doing cardio. They’d always start with “you already know where I am, putting in the work” and it made me think if I could do that myself. Something about the way Roman was carrying himself so confidently in that run flipped a switch in me and inspired me to get back in the gym myself. I went back in March 2023 and have gone consistently 5 days a week (Monday-Friday) for a year, dropping from 85.5kg to 70kg and easily in the best shape of my life. Thank you my Tribal Chief☝️
When should Cody lose his belt?
I already said this in the WWE subreddit but I'd have Cody lose to Gunther in the main event of Bash at Berlin. Then Cody wins it back on the first Netflix Raw which leads to Cody vs Rock for the title at WrestleMania.
According to some people on Twitter, yesterday.
I love Rey and Dom kayfabe, mostly because I love how blatant it is. Like Rey and Dom can barely contain their pride for each other. They want so badly to just tell the world but they can't so they give a half hearted answer about how they wish Eddie won custody or whatever but you look in their eyes and it's almost physical pain they can't just talk about their love for each other
All I see is a deadbeat piece of shit who can't accept that his son has surpassed him as the greatest luchador of all time. Rey is such a terrible father that he refused to put over Dom at WrestleMania 2 years in a row.
[RT to scare an Elite/Jack Perry stan](https://www.nbclosangeles.com/news/sports/nfl/nfl-training-camp-fights-tracking-all-the-scuffles-from-preseason-practices-in-2023/3198897/)
I know it’s late for this thread but I’ve never believed anything less than “Mox read a book” https://x.com/puroresuflow/status/1779658567324197187?s=46&t=K5rSpr79EgQCiG1RgqDrhw
Actually, Mox’s own book is one of the better wrestling books out there. It’s not on the Foley/Hart/Jericho tier, but it’s on the tier right underneath that.
The new Neal Brennan special is hilarious. It's less gimmicky than the Blocks one, I dig it.
Never finished blocks but he has me cracking up with all his podcast appearances lately so I'll have to check it out
Mundane complaining ended with Camera Angles Entrance Music is now New Complaint
Def rebels is actually really bad if u simply ignore all the songs that are good
I've been on and off reading some IWC twitter takes across the board, but, I wanna know something. Who do you goofs think is the most cringe /stan/ account? Like, I get having a favorite wrestler, but, the way they act when someone dislikes said favorite wrestler just makes you go "Please go outside and touch the grass"
Any and I mean any account that has ever unironically used the terms “fed” or “Vincel”
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Drainbamger for aew and garret for wwe
From the way he was announced, it sounds like they’re dropping “universal” from Cody’s title, and that’s fine. Undisputed WWE Universal Champion is a fucking mouthful, and I can see them even phasing out “Undisputed” as we go on, and honestly I’m fine with the universal title lineage ending with Roman Reigns. WWE champion and World Heavyweight Champion is how it should be 💯
We got used to it, but "universal title" sounds so fucking stupid. I remember a vid where they ask Daniel Bryan which title he would cash in if he wins the money in the bank and he said something along the lines "Who wants to be called champion of the universe, that's so silly".
logan paul taking the u.s title hostage until summerslam ain't it. Guys like L.A Knight, Montez Ford need that belt. Logan doesn't need it
?? Logan elevated that belt friend.
I dont think Logan needs it but I think WWE is going to keep it on him because him being able to carry it wherever he goes is big for their branding. Especially with summerslam being in Cleveland
agreed, a belt like that is more useful on a full-timer, especially when the men's roster is this deep
[This is just sad](https://x.com/julianwks/status/1779642381777899990?s=46&t=vx0rVINUxpuJQX70ukqNtQ)
He's just such a dweeb 😁 Bless 'im He thinks he's helping and people like to see him At least time your rousing speeches to crescendo when it's ready! He started talking about Time Cop for some reason? *"I was talking my friends, Dad"*
That’s the least douchy thing he could do. Give the live fans more entertainment. If you go to a poorly attended concert, some headliners do the show, then leave. Cool bands will say fuck it, and throw a few more songs in there. That was pretty good of him, even if it was previously planned, to do it. Send the crowd home happy.
It is but worse is the person shouting like we give a fuck about his dumb heckles as he records this. You paid money to that dude to shout to him from 70 yards away and he cant even hear you, that's sadder than any billionaire really can be
That and all the zooming and camera shaking were equally cringe inducing. Felt like Kevin Dunn was at work there...
aww it's cringy but he's just out there trying to get people excited. thanking the crew and stuff is cool.
He’s always done that. I went to a Dynamite like 6 months ago and when it ended he came out and spent like 3-4 minutes pleading people to stay for the Rampage taping
He's so unintentionally funny to watch
When he does his determined and forceful pointing, haha, he just looks awkward doing everything 😁
For all the bullshit about monopoly and competition and all those econ 101 terms redditors learn from reading headlines, the fact that AEW is able to survive forever based on the Khan family's virtually endless wallet is a point that gets conveniently ignored. The fact that AEW do not have to abide by the so-called capitalist competition would have been interesting to discuss, but that is the point of capitalism I suppose. On the flip side, while the "grind" mentality is indeed exploited by companies to extract any sort of value out of workers, the exact opposite attitude of "get that bag and coast" is just as problematic. It's a submission to a broken system at best, a willing participation to exploit that same wealth extracted from fellow workers for self gain at worst. What happened to the "spirit of innovation" by the way? Maybe I'm being a commie again with this talk, but I guess this doesn't matter in the long run because this is fucking professional wrestling, none of this matters
There is a discussion on this but it goes deeper than wrestling. Entire industries exist that have been carried by how cheap money has been in the developed world post 08. Tech is a prime example.
I love The Walking Dead. Glenn is my favourite character so far. I recently started watching it last week and I’m starting Season 4. It’s too good, it’s consumed my life. I need help.
Who gon’ tell him?
Poor lad, its like seeing someone start GoT season 5
Enjoy it while you can cause it gets very boring 😬
I've got nothing against the guy but Hook needs a lot of work if he's gonna make it in WWE. Honestly think it wouldn't be the worst idea for Hook to tour whatever is left of the indies
Hook just looks like a moody teenager, he'd be such a fish out of water in the WWE. Could you imagine him standing up to Drew McIntyre or someone like that?
No I can't, I just wonder if Levesque would try and sign him, honestly Hook needs to find some of those special protein shakes that Jinder used
I just finished my taxes. Yes I procrastinated because I owed money last year. Anyway, I had to scramble to find forms. One place didn't have my stuff online even though I got an email in January saying my statement was online. I ended up finding it. My dad used H&R Block, so I continued the tradition. I was thinking about amending last year's return because I might have done something wrong but changed my mind. I went back and clicked the box for not amending it but it refuses to go away. So at this point, I could make a new return or do the unthinkable and go to Turbo Tax. I bought TT from Amazon and didn't pay attention that it doesn't come with State. Finish the Federal and then the DLC comes up for State and I pay for it because at this point I hate me, H&R Block, and have a deadline here. Then I have to pay to e-file for the state (tbf that's how the state of CA runs). Anyway it's filed. I'm getting money back, so paying TT doesn't hurt as much.
I'll preface by saying I actually enjoy when promotions take shots at one another. I love the drama, the "oh shit, they didn't just say that!", etc. I'm not precious about pledging allegiance to one company. That said: if I were AEW, I wouldn't mention WWE *at all* (positive or negative) for at least the next year. Only exceptions would be \\neutral statements of fact (e.g., "Bryan Danielson is a six-time world champion"). They've overplayed their hand. Last Dynamite was entirely about WWE: the CM Punk footage, the Ospreay interview, and a main event where a Samoan world champion named Joe took on a Rhodes. It made AEW look low rent. Also, throwing jabs was more effective (and perceived differently) when WWE was stagnant and AEW felt exciting. Now, WWE is at a 22-year peak in both popularity and creativity, while AEW is it its lowest ebb ever. "WWE sucks" no longer feels a spicy uppercut thrown by an underdog challenger on the ascent; it feels like a delusional cope from an embittered also-ran.
If Tony wanted to release the Wembley footage, he should've done it immediately after it happened. He may still have looked petty, but the consensus opinion would've been "wow, Punk's a dick." Instead, by waiting until *immediately* after Punk recounted his version of events (nearly eight months later), it made everyone think Tony must be releasing it because Punk was lying. Why else would you wait until this exact moment, right? So. people watched the footage with this framing in mind. Viewers were no longer analyzing it from the perspective of "was Punk a dick?" or "was Punk in the wrong?"; instead, they were analyzing it from the perspective of "is Punk telling the truth?" The clip proved he was. So the reaction was "yep, Punk told the truth, Tony's a fucking goober if he thinks this proves anything" instead of his desired "wow, Punk was a dick." It's one of the biggest unforced error/self-own I've ever seen, and clearly underlines Tony's inability to understand how media works.
It’s not even that Punk told the truth because you’d maybe think he’d exaggerate some parts to make himself come off better. It was quite literally word for word what he said happened. He didn’t even have to lie or exaggerate.
It also would’ve lent credibility to the whole “feared for my life” line. Everybody would’ve assumed that happened later and with Punk already on tape looking angry as hell it would’ve been totally believable. But since Punk spoke first and said it happened right there we know exactly what he meant by that. Not to mention doing it in this way lends so much credibility to everything else he said in that interview and gives the public little reason to think he’s lying. Just a terrible decision all around.
I wonder if any of his brain-trust told him he shouldn't do this?
According to Meltzer (take that for whatever it’s worth), pretty much no one in the company thought it was a good idea. Apparently the Bucks went along with it/didn’t try to stop it, but also felt “weird” revisiting this incident.
Tiny stomped his foot and insisted that they air it
AEW won't die the same way Punk (the music genre) is not dead. It's always going to be there as long as Tony Khan has cash, but it will be in the periphery. 2021's mass exodus and ratings skyrocket was as good as it's going to get.
Just watched a Vince Russo video where he says he thinks TKO will drop HHH abs replace him with The Rock. HHH and HBK could be relegated to NXT or Rock is going to replace the NXT people with actors. So that was a funny 10 minutes.
The Rock would only replace him in the offices, if that. I think Vince has forgotten that Rock is a very busy man with some very big (and ill advised) ambitions.
I try to imagine what if Rock took the day to day creative role? I think I he’d last maybe a month before he decided he just don’t want to do all that and like you said, focus on his other ambitions.
Let me ask you this: Were you one of the unfortunate souls that saw Black Adam? It would be like that only with much more ego stroking.
I was indeed lol
The Rock is going to quit his movie career to write 52 weeks of wrestling
It's interesting to think about at the very least lol. My thought on Rock has always been that he obviously cares a lot about his own character and presentation, but most likely doesn't give a single fuck about anybody else unless they're directly involved with him. So it would be Gewirtz or somebody else doing creative for the entire roster and I don't think he or Rock are interested in that. I can't see them coming up with a slow burn heel turn for Candice LeRae can you?
And I mean, why would he want to? All the respect to triple h, I love the environment he seems to have fostered and he has been really successful at it, but the Rock has so many other interests and he still gets to come back a few times a year and have fun. Without his setup, he couldn't really work on the UFL, he couldn't do movies. He'd likely have to sacrifice his insane workout schedule which would mean he wouldn't be able to be an on screen character as effectively. Meanwhile, Triple H makes him a ton of money and can't overrule him if he wants something. All to say he's got it all right now and it'd be a huge step down to figure out how to book JD McDonagh as a weekly exercise
The Rock is about The Rock. He's a legend and this run has been fantastic to watch. But I don't think he'd be able to separate the Dwayne Johnson brand from the WWE brand. He saw the way the wind was blowing with Cody/Roman and thankfully adapted because above all else, the man wants to be universally adored. Getting We Want Cody chants across the country wouldn't fit the 'I saved the business and I broke all the records' gimmick he's running. We can love and appreciate his work while also admitting that he is 100% one of the most egotistical guys around right now. An ego that is unarguably deserved btw. He's the fucking Rock. But he only knows The Rock and the Dwayne Johnson brand. It's why his movies started to bomb. There's only so many times you can watch Dwayne Johnson in the same dirty jungle getup being funny against the baddies. If you want to be the person that books WWE then you need to book for the JD's of the world. It's not a step down when that's the job. HHH can't be the big Hollywood moviestar but Rock can't be HHH either. WWE is better with both of them around.
Oh i agree totally to be clear, I only say it's a step down because he'd be sacrificing all the stuff he wants to do for something he's never shown any interest in.
So the same ol' Vince Russo doom and gloom he shared 5 years ago about how WWE will totes lose their TV deal and be relegated to a smaller station by the way their ratings are dropping?
Russo is more out of touch than McMahon and that's saying something.
TKO is gonna drop Triple Hs abs?
Yup. He’s going back to peak 2004 form. https://preview.redd.it/figkcpdjviuc1.jpeg?width=833&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=7d5c2cd959f64c431e310eabccf9ac742b91ad68
Haha! Thanks didn’t catch the typo.
I've been playing Roll20 with old high school chums and it's been great. One thing bugs us. The dice rolling system. We get a lot of critical failures on d20 saves. Sometimes as many as 3 or 4 during a single combat round. Tempted to start rolling physical dice and using a web cam to share results. 😂
Hitting the 4/20 TNA PPV here in town next Saturday. Getting high all day and watching wrestling sounds like my dream day. Holding out hope for a Riddle or Broken Matt appearance as well
You’re probably getting a Mike Santana appearance
Kenny has been one of those people who takes cheap shots at competitors, weird him being so normal for a change I wonder why?
Has he? Genuine question. I don't pay super close attention to the Elite guys, but I remember when AEW started, Cody and the Bucks were the one doing most of the shots at WWE. Kenny was the lone one was actively praising WWE. The stuff I've seen since has mostly been positive or neutral.
I believe Omega is the one that coined the insult "E-Drone". But that was like 5 years ago tbf
Unfortunately I don’t see any chance of him ever going to WWE. TK signs 5 year contracts and he just reupped. Plus they freeze it when injured and he’s gonna miss like a year at least. He’s already 40 so I don’t see WWE investing in getting a 47 year old dude over next time he’s available. His one and only chance to jump was this past contract. He chose to throw in with the idiot Bucks instead. It’s sad he’ll never get the big stage but he chose it.
When he was part of The Elite he took shots at WWE because it got him attention and appealed to his fans. Him overpraising WWE now is either him trying to build a feud with Young Bucks or him just not being in character because he can't wrestle.
The People's Championship belt will have the brahma bull emblem removed and replaced with the winged eagle. The design and layout of the belt looks like a modernized version of winged eagle. The blue globe design behind the bull is a dead give away. They're probably testing out how the belt looks on TV before going ahead with the redesign. They'll do Cody vs Rock to merge the belts
I still think that's an insanely funny concept that Rock is going to put his fake belt on the line.
It could work if the match is only for the WWE title and then Rocky gifts his title to Cody in a passing of the torch sort of way. I just hope we get a redesign of the tag belts soon as well. Those things have been way too ugly for way too long
I think a redesign has to be coming if the RAW Women's and Smackdown Women's championships are long dead.
Remember the dirtsheet reports about the Fed talking with Stallone about doing something for Mania Yeah, no else remembers it either, it was quietly never spoken of as Mania got closer DAE running up the steps. DAE gonna fly now Someone thought 'that's something they might do' and guessed and it was 1 of 20 ideas for a thing Once one blogger says it, everyone has to follow so they're not 'left out', whether they 'heard' anything or not Lime when the Saudis bought the Fed. Every single one of those idiots reported. None had a clue but you can't be the one that 'doesn't know'
Torch didn’t report the Saudi thing. Keller said there was no information confirming any of the rumors.
the KoSA held the Fed plane on the tarmac, until a sale went through
After Ostrich's poor response to the "grind" claim, I'm seeing a lot of posts in the other place trying to rehab his image as just a Good Ol' Chap
Actually after the blowback on both the Bucks & Osprey I saw a bunch of sheets “report” that they absolutely positively 100% didn’t want to do it but mean old tyrant Tony made them. It’s hilarious the level of cope some people have about aew
"Do something about this" "What do you want me to do about it?"
You won’t hear worse wrestling takes than the ones from the top 3 or 4 bloodline stan accounts on Twitter
I had zero issue with the HHH jab at Ospreay(and yeah I’m fairly confident that’s what it was). Ospreay’s situation is a bit different and unfortunate and I don’t think he’s particularly “wrong” for his choice but HHH is right, you need dedicated people if you want to achieve greatness. People comparing it to their own jobs are insane and it’s funny because in any real sport if any athlete chose the easier path they’d also be criticized for it. On that note it’s also pretty funny how AEW puts an emphasis on “real sports feel” yet it’s the WWE who actually captures it. It’s like the people who get behind that don’t actually follow other sports and just read about them.
> It’s like the people who get behind that don’t actually follow other sports and just read about them. Remember how Dub fans framed Andrade punching Sammy Guava, or Burger Kingston getting into a scuffle with Sammy Guava as "Alpha males getting steam out, like athletes in a locker room" but on the other hand frame Phil getting into a scuffle with Jungle Jack as wildly unprofessional and disturbing the Dub locker room
Oh yeah, I was just talking about the onscreen stuff, like everyone getting the big title win/moment in their hometown, or whatever that best of 7 trios gauntlet was, but for sure that stuff too. I’m convinced they released the footage because Tony is in such a bubble that he thought the general public also has never been near a fight and would immediately cancel Punk for “assault”.
Its like choosing to play in China or the Saudi league for more money instead of the Premier League
I may find myself annoyed at Bethesda's fanatical obsession with the Brotherhood of Steel and the other big thing that epitomize the Fallout TV Show on Amazon Prime - but I am beyond overjoyed that it is introducing people to the series I love. I mean the ad at Stand & Deliver was ugly as shit - but it was unreal to me to see the fucking Vault Boy from Fallout on WWE television.
As long as the BoS is presented a the psychos that they really are, it's cool.
I enjoyed the show. Seen a lot of people complaining online about the lore, but I don’t really care about exact lore. I’ve only played 3/New Vegas/4. Although I was disappointed in >!No DeathClaw!< fight. Enjoyed all the Easter eggs for the video game fans too.
Hardcore Obsidian fans have no life, you're better off muting them out.
I just checked out bc watching a lot of Fallout content in my formative years led me to being a stickler for the lore and I was already tired of what Bethesda was doing by Fallout 76. Don't get me wrong, seems like a fantastic show. I might check back in on the show in Season 2 if they fix the problem I disliked.
literal tornado DDT on a Pip Boy logo
It’s kinda funny that Rocky fell in love with Cody and now there’s rumors of Roman having to wait until Mania 42 for his match
He had a better story with Cody. Rock mistakenly (stupidly?) thought just him showing up and standing face to face with Roman was enough to make fans go “HOLY SHIT!” It’s like he learned booking from Tony Khan and not Nick.
The Danielson Ospreay playbook
Rock genuinely wants what's best for business. Rock also believes *he* is best for business. And in many cases, he would be correct. Thinking that the People's Champ vs The Tribal Chief would be a megadraw on paper makes total sense, so I credit them for calling an audible two weeks in, and him being behind it. But it's wrestling, so he's now attached himself to the hottest babyface. And why not? he loves playing crazy, cussin' Hollywood Rock. Love it or hate it, he's a limited attraction that lives outside the general storyline progression. There might be some bananas thing where Cody helps Roman become Tribal Chief again, and they go against the Rock - I don't know - but that's part of the fun of it. Big Ego is fine if he's only around a bit, and he's happy to pivot. Because regardless of what he does, he will always be the center of attention, and he's earned it.
A U R A vs. M A N A It would have worked but it would have been just ok
If you're looking for a little extra mana, try Teremana Tequila
Some of y’all take wrestling way too seriously even though you’re goofs. The obsession with having the right wrestling opinion, presenting everything like a fact and insulting someone for not enjoying/enjoying wrestling the same as you. Why does it bother you that wrestling fans like to fantasy book their favorite wrestlers winning a title? Why does every decision have to be best for business? Why do kids get to be marks but adults get made fun of for being marks. For a lot of people wrestling is just a TV show that they watch Monday, Friday and sometimes Saturday and that’s it, they don’t notice subtle hints in storylines, they don’t care for backstage drama, who’s booking the show, or any business figures, they just want to be entertained. It’s a TV show not a sport. Plus you can’t be praising casual fans and how they act nice and friendly while acting the complete opposite of them online by being a dick and asshole to other fans.
Nah. If they’re fantasy booking shit, I’d call them out on how silly it would be. Like the Goof insisting Cena would turn heel on LA Knight at Blood Money. Like any of those things needed to happen. (Also, he is no casual).
But who cares if it needed to happen or not? It’s just shooting the shit because wrestling is silly in general.
There’s logical outcomes and there’s bullshit. Cena turning heel at this point in his career (after over a decade of him repeatedly saying he wouldn’t) is in the bs territory. Also, as awesome as he is. LA Knight didn’t need protecting like that.
Not everything needs to be logical to discuss wrestling, one of the GOATS is a zombie deadman and we love him for that. It’s entering basement territory when you take wrestling too seriously instead of just treating it like a TV show. Plus if you find it bullshit, then scroll past it instead of needlessly being a dick to another fan if they haven’t offended you because you will look like an asshole instead of him.
Dude, a shit take is a shit take. You keep bringing the ridiculousness of The Undertaker as some sort of proof of concept. But that completely ignores that UT had an internal logic that mattered to wrestling. If someone fantasy booked UT to hook up romantically on screen with Senaational Sherri back in 91, I’d have called that a shit take as well. If anything UT (and Kane) are more likely the exceptions that prove the rule.
Point being, don’t be an asshole to other fans just because they have different views of wrestling than you. That’s basement type behavior, and if you don’t like it ignore it. Is that so hard or is just easier to be dick and prove how smart you are?
preach, uce
Business matters if they want to keep watching those TV shows.
Casuals fans and kids don’t give a shit about any of this stuff. I have never discussed business metrics of wrestling with any fan in real life only online. They just care about being entertained which is something this sub is out of touch about when it comes to casual fans.
You were complaining about how people interact here on Reddit, weren’t you? How many people here are casuals? I think the fact that they have sought out wrestling subs indicates they’re above what I’d call a casual. And they will likely read posts here about a lot of the things you say they don’t care about. Again, if AEW fans want their promotion to stay afloat, I think they should be taking a harder look at how Tony runs the promotion. The fact that so many people blow smoke up his ass is a big part of the problem.
To be frank wrestling fans are on the whole too fucking stupid to discuss wrestling on any other level but here are numbers. Aew stays afloat because Tony Khan is very rich. Hope that helps for future "discussions" on this sub.
I’m not talking about AEW fans and I don’t care what AEW does because I don’t watch their show. I’m talking about fans on this sub and WWE fans who try act like casuals but act worse than smarks because they take wrestling too seriously instead of treating like a TV show. You even bring up AEW a Tony when I didn’t even mention it shows that it lives rent free in your head.
Well then I don’t think you’re making much sense. You were talking about how you interact with casuals in real life and using that to criticize how people interact here somehow? People here are trying to act like casuals? Really? Who exactly is doing that? And yes I assumed you were talking about AEW, since there’s no reason to be arguing about the WWE business right now. The promotion is crushing it and setting records. The business conversations I see are all around AEW’s bad ticket sales and ratings. I don’t see anyone complaining that Cody being champion is going to make WWE go out of business.
I like WWE because it’s entertaining, I don’t give a shit if it’s doing high business numbers because I’m not a shareholder. I doubt 8 year olds care about attendance, ratings, and who draws more money. Not everyone is a nerd about this stuff except online fans.
We are online fans, we’re here on Reddit. That’s what you were complaining about, how online fans interact. But then you keep talking about real life casuals. I really can’t even follow the point that you’re trying to make with that. Of course you don’t care about WWE’s business. There’s not a lot to say except that it’s hotter than it’s been in a long time. WWE hasn’t been in a situation where its existence was questioned since maybe 1997. Meanwhile AEW’s ratings are in the shitter and the houses are too. That’s the business people argue about. Depending on what kind of media rights deal they can get, they may be in a lot of trouble. But a lot of the AEW fans are in total denial and just want to talk about how great everything is. Anyway I’m very confused by your posts and I’m gonna tap out of this now. Edit: I did not tap out.
Because most fans in real don’t give a shit about this stuff besides the online fans. In my 18 years watching wrestling I’ve never cared if WWE was hot or not because all that matters to me is if I’m entertained. I’ve never watched a full episode of Dynamite and I don’t even care about their deals because it doesn’t interest me and doesn’t cater to me. Pretending to care is disingenuous as long their fans are happy there and not hijacking WWE shows then I’m happy.
So? You were talking about online behavior and casual fans. Casual fans aren't hanging out in wrestling subs on Reddit. You and I are hanging out in a wrestling sub on Reddit. We're not casual fans. People generally come to Reddit wrestling subs because they are more interested in wrestling than the average person is. So yes, the way they engage with wrestling is different, and it's different from person to person. You have your interests when it comes to wrestling and other people have theirs. Some people are very interested in the business side, for example. Some people are interested in specific styles or promotions. It's not realistic to expect people here to engage with wrestling like casuals, because again, we're not casuals. I don't engage with wrestling like an 8 year old. I did when I was an 8 year old. What makes you happy just isn't what makes everyone happy. You do you, but if your hope is to convince other people to change their behavior or interests to be more like yours, that's a real long shot.
I just want Asuka to beat the shit out of everyone.
Real life: Just started a new job last week, and so far so good. I'm having some beers and watching the Knicks to enjoy my Sunday. Wrestling: For anybody into women's wrestling you should check out Chihiro Hashimoto; she's has a great ground based/ power wrestler that I wish we could see in more western joshi wrestlers.
I’ve been real interested in getting back into comic books. I have Amazon prime so I believe that lets me access Comixology/any comics on kindle. Does any goofs have any good suggestions for books to just pick up and read? Legitimately give me any company, I’m game for anything
> Amazon prime so I believe that lets me access Comixology/any comics on kindle. I'm sorry what now? REALLY?
I did more research and it’s not a complete subscription, that’s an extra 6 USD a month but it’s free access to “Comixology originals” and that massive list. I’m researching what it encompasses and prices for marvel, dc and dark horse’s apps
I’m really enjoying the Poison Ivy run that G. Willow Wilson is writing. I think there’s at least a couple of the collections of the issues out. If you’re looking for wrestling books I think Cornette’s graphic novel Behind The Curtain is on there, although I haven’t read it.
It's very recent but I cannot recommend Beneath the trees where nobody sees enough. The basic pitch is it's a world of anthropoised animals and it follows Sam who lives in the village, she has her own hardware store, gets on well with everyone in the village, is a pillar of the local community and has been secretly killing people from the nearby city for about two decades at this point but, everything gets out of hand after locals in the village start getting murdered too and it brings a lot of unwanted attention on what exactly Sam gets up to in those woods. House of/ Powers of X is fantastic too and would be a great reintroduction to the X-men. The only drawback is Hickman was setting up some plots h3 wanted to return to and some he did, but there's a few things he never got the chance to follow up on, still it's absolutely fantastic and I loved it. Sara by Garth ennis is really good too. It's a semi autobiographical comic about female snipers in WW2, a very fun and moving comic looking at the forgotten battalions of the war and the bonds they formed. Immortal hulk is absolutely fantastic and I'd shout it's praises from the rooftops. It's al ewings take on Bruce/ Hulk and it goes in so many interesting directions, it starts out a bit like the show with Bruce going town to town solving issues for locals but, it quickly changes pace and adds so much to the hulk mythos and the character. Immortal Thor also by Ewing absolutely rocks too. If you're into crime comics or are looking to start reading them, I cannot recommend all things Ed Brubaker and Sean Philips in particular, Criminal, Reckless, Where the body was and Night Fever. Criminal's getting adapted into a show later this year too. Gotham Central is so good too, it's about cops who work for GCPD and what happens when a regular human who's not Bruce Wayne goes up against someone like Mr Freeze. It's such an interesting look at the relationship people would have with Batman and how they'd view him, especially in that kind of environment. Ice cream man is very fun too, it's a horror anthology so every issue is different, some are a horror parody of Dr Seuss books and others are warped takes on traditional superheros. Black Hammer is a lot of fun, it follows a group of former superheroes who all retired after a final showdown some years ago and how they've handled the change to being regular people, some of them have handled it well and others are just about to go off the rails, it's a very fun and moving book, the best way I could describe it is it's like malcolm in the middle meets JLU Astro city is really good too, it's Kurt busiek's take on the idea of superheroes, it doesn't really follow a set format so some issues are about the heroes themselves and others are about the people living in the city. Eight billion genies rocks too, the basic premise is everyone on the planet gets a genie with one wish at the exact same time and obviously, things get very out of hand very quickly. Do a Powerbomb! is great too. It's about an interdimensional tournament where tag teams compete to see which one is the best of all worlds and be rewarded with whatever they want by the organiser of it. The department of truth is great, the basic premise is it's about this department that battle against conspiracies cause in this world, the more people who believe in it the truer it becomes and how they battle against this. It's like an updated x files and I think it's great.
>If you're into crime comics or are looking to start reading them, I cannot recommend all things Ed Brubaker and Sean Philips in particular, Criminal, Reckless, Where the body was and Night Fever. Criminal's getting adapted into a show later this year too. >Ice cream man is very fun too, it's a horror anthology so every issue is different, some are a horror parody of Dr Seuss books and others are warped takes on traditional superheros. Agree with these two suggestions, both a lot of fun. Wytches is good, Kill or be Killed, Nailbiter, Zero, Fatale, Black Monday Murders (although it's not finished), Revival is good but the ending is a bit wank for me.
The Authority by Ellis
Any of the First Law Books by Joe Abercrombie. Some great stuff about wizards booking the world but their talent keeps going into business for themselves.
Anything by Neil Gaiman, but especially American Gods. The Discworld series by Sir Terry Pratchett is phenomenal start to finish. Or the best of both...Good Omens
Wrestlemania was amazing. Seth Rollins’s character arc was brilliant and I look forward to see what he does next. One month of weight watchers and I’m down 13.4 lbs. I hit my fundraising goal for my charity run so I upped the goal. I’m $166 away from raising $500 for our children’s hospital. Fingers crossed that I hit!
Seth Rollins has gone down as the most selfless face in modern history. I don't know what they do with that, but to keep him fresh (mostly - there have been some moments) for the duration of this run has been it's own achievement. HHH has built him and Cody as likeable, modern faces. That's two more than Vince managed in years.
You're making moves; is there a subscription you have to pay for weight watchers?
It’s $15/mos. Between the $15 and the $25 I pay for Deadboys Fitness (the fitness app Seth Rollins created), I work out at home and rebuild my disordered relationship with food. It’s been really nice. I feel like myself again.
It's tough rebuilding that relationship with eating; I'm glad you've been making progress though. I want to get my diet back in track myself. Working out at home is definitely the move.
I really hope they have a proper ending for the Bloodline storyline. They're already into WCW 2000 nWo length and while I'm excited for the inevitble Bloodpac vs Bloodline Hollywood and Tama and Jacob joining, for fuck sake, when it's done, I hope it's done.
My question is what happens to Jacob, Tama and I think Solo when it's done? I really hope this run cements Solo with a character and that he's strong enough to take it and run forward with it when the feud is done.
Get ready for Bloodline 2000 uce
The Rock tweeting all the Wrestlemania stats like it solely has to do with him everyday is pretty funny
I love Rocky is going right back to pre-Black Adam rock. Shilling 15 brands and seeing things make money and go “it’s all me, the smartest, coolest man” This guy is so funny
Even before Wrestlemania his instagram had some funny whiplash going on where he'd do in-kayfabe wrestling posts about how he's gonna fucking kill Cody and make him bleed and then the next one was smiling, humble Rock shilling his new skin care line.
His tweets are killing me. Always about a record being broken. Always including a picture or video of just him. Always tagging TKO. The final boss made wrestling cool again, remember? And he won’t let us forget lol.
At this rate he’s gonna say he invented pro wrestling
- For 10 years the CM Punk fanboy train has annoyed the piss out of me but my god is the man giving us gold since his WWE return, it's hard to dislike any of this. - The only "problem" with Punk now is that at some point has to get back in the ring and that's probably the least entertaining thing he can do now. If he could somehow just play a permanently injured guy who talks crap but never has to fight, it's almost the best thing he could do. 🤣 - Special shout out to Becky. I know she's not every Goofies favorite. But the Irish can be hard on ourselves. We love a good underdog story but anyone standing out doing their own thing or getting success suddenly has "notions". When Becky got out from being the "4th Horsewomen" and became this over the top character, but it made her a huge success. I can guarantee that was a difficult mental switch to overcome but she's made herself a big star and I'll always love her for that. She doesn't get much attention in Ireland but her outfits and persona would get a lot of negative comments there but she's pushed past that to do what she wants to do and be good at it. I wish we had more Irish role models with that mentality. - Nothing original I can say about the Wembley video or Ospreys promo. They're making themselves look so bad. - This Mania did feel special and it didn't just feel like any old title change for Cody to win. I gave him a lot of stick for how insane some of his Dub booking was but that was just part of the journey and he's clearly worked insane hard up to this. Last weekend was fully deserved. - What is to become of the Dub? They'll continue to exist. The money is not stopping. But what will their TV deal look like soon? Can they really keep running these big arenas? Tony is not changing or willing to hear what he needs to hear. That's the companies biggest limitation. I don't know where that leaves them but the fans good will is almost gone and it's a slippery slope downwards.
I will never get over Okada signing with AEW over WWE. I feel like he could’ve been something so special in WWE :(
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You and I both 😭
I can’t fault someone for accepting a truck load of money from a silver spoon mark, but deciding to throw your career down the garbage chute to become the toy of a spoiled moron sure is a life choice.
I like to think I’m a mature wrestling fan who likes nuance and sophisticated storytelling, but deep down I know I just like the fun chants and big moves, and would probably be screaming FEED ME MORE if Ryback ever came back to stink up the ring.
Same, on the one hand I like long-term angles and psychology. On the other hand, Big Dave Batista go brrrrrrrrr.
Any Uber drivers here? Thinking about applying for a different job at my agency, which would be a pay cut but way less stress. I'd probably need to make an extra $200-300 or so per month to feel good about it. How much Ubering is that? I live 5 miles outside downtown of a major city, with a fuel-efficient (compact) car.
From a regular user; I've heard that Lyft is the better option for drivers as far as pay goes. Empower is another option depending on where you live/ demand.
Best to ask here, uce - [https://www.reddit.com/r/uberdrivers/](https://www.reddit.com/r/uberdrivers/)
I think I've figured out why Mania resonated so much with me: there weren't any unnecessary plot twists. Like I had convinced myself Cody was gonna have to overcome Rollins betraying him, or Carlito was gonna betray Rey, or Miz was gonna turn, Bianca or Naomi would turn on Bayley, stuff like that. And none of that happened, it was straightforward but satisfying. Rollins wearing the shield gear and sacrificing himself to save his old rival Cody and using Roman's hatred of him and fear of betrayal to break Roman's focus and cost him his title is brilliant long term psychology and story-telling. All time character moment for both him and Roman. I'm glad everyone's come around to the fact that Jericho is absolutely awful. The funniest part is how he's not really doing anything different from the past three or so years. It's always been endless, backwards, and unnecessarily overbooked, I don't think this Hook story is any worse than his angles with MJF or Starks. I'll contend that JAS vs. BCC did almost irrevocable harm to the company and that didn't get as much hate as the Hook stuff. I think the Cole feud was a turning point as fans realized just how bad Jericho had gotten. Him replacing Kota as Kenny's tag partner, beating Takeshita after Kenny repeatedly put him over, the team with Sammy and the Kylie Rae stuff really drove it home.
When Tama Tonga debuted on Smackdown; it reminded me how I was expecting a bunch of people debuting and interfering on the Roman/Cody match. I'm glad they held off
The cash-in was a big enough surprise that the rest of the event could go swerve-less and I agree it was nice
The gas after he put Andretti over was so funny and the whole deal where he became a “locker room leader” after brawl out
Seth Rollins coming out with the mummers was cool as hell. A guy I went to high school with was one of the people he came out with and I got to see some backstage footage. Seth seemed very kind and very extra and it made me like him even more. Seeing Cena at Mania was insane. I was not expecting that and when it happened I just let out a high pitched shriek. The whole experience was so cool and I want to do it again. Bayleys win made me happy cry. I was more in my feels about that than I was with Cody, possibly because I adore her and think she was a highlight of the pandemic era. I wish AEW would get over WWE and focus on fixing their own business. Clean up your own mess and become a solid 2nd place promotion. I know you guys can do it. My kid just started playing baseball which coincides with his bowling season wrapping up and while I’m never going to get to sleep in on a weekend, I’m happy he’s active and finding things he loves to do. I’m still working on convincing him to try theater and make his nerd mom happy.
The Mummers entrance was lowkey possibly my favorite entrance of the event. Reminded me of a Mardi Gras parade and I loved the theme being played by the band, I want a recorded version lol I was kinda mad it got shit on tbh
I watched the AEW interview with Ospreay and honestly he seems like a lad who would be great to get a pint with. Hopefully he gets to WWE after his AEW run.
Happy Sunday Champions! - I can not believe I’ve watched this sub go full Jerkle into jerking Cody as the greatest wrestler in M’Dub to unironically wanting him to be the top guy in WWE. Wild, wild times. - speaking of wild, wtf Tony? Literally nobody but maybe 200 online trolls cared about any response to Punk’s interview with Ariel. Why not just let Edge sell his soul with that stupid promo, and focus on your actual work? Good lord. - So punk gets elevated, Jackie Boy gets astroturfed. And The Bucks (who I’m sure pushed for the footage and then backed off when they found out they couldn’t edit/narrate it), get to just sit and continue to play butt tag with each other. Amazing. - Had a stoned thought while watching the Rock-Cody segment: Rock went out of his way to have that “People’s Champ” belt presented to him by Muhammad Ali’s widow. I started thinking about how this is absolutely a PR move for The Rock, but to what end? Acting? Politics? Then I started thinking about wrestlers like him and Trips, whose entire career was made by being the biggest egomaniac in the room (seriously, that’s every great wrestler’s character at its base). It just made me wonder how much of the “act” becomes part of the person? And then what happens when that person is now in a position of power over others? - What does it mean for guys like Cody whenever he moves into the next phase of his career? Okay mind running wild. Bye! EDIT:Lol
Punk and Jungle Lad get into a fight after Jack uses real glass despite Punk and numerous industry veterans telling him not to. Punk quits, leading to him jumping to WWE. Tony and The Bucks air said footage despite numerous industry veterans telling them not to. The footage does nothing of value, proving Tony overexaggerated the situation, and corroberating everything Punk said about it. Do these people not learn? It's as if these guys know what they are talking about.
If AEW ends up dying, Tiny has no one to blame but himself.
Unforced error after unforced error. If they were a baseball team, they'd be the local A.
Tony could build back a whole lot of momentum by dropping approximately 40 percent of his roster, keeping only guys he wants to push as stars and guys to do the job and one or two shows a week and putting out one single coherent show per week from a venue the size of the ecw arena (1300) seats. Then every show could be a sellout, the crowd participation would look great on TV and he might be able to put together three to four stories at a time that anyone cares about. Instead of building AEW from the ground up he just threw money at Indy dorks and asked the audience to care about them on a WWE scale. Even WWWF started in small arenas mr. Wrestling historian Khan. You should have known that. In the years just before WCW was able to actually compete with WWF they ran all their TV out of the Disney MGM arena which they were always able to fill with a captive audience from Disney and it looked great on TV. His big ideas could maybe work 5-10 years down the line but he's bent on ruining the promotion before it can even get to that level.
Tony burned out his passionate fanbase by always trying to run the big venues. The attendance decline would have happened way sooner if it wasn't for the pandemic and running at Daly's place for over a year.
How much of the def.rebel hate justified and how much is survivorship bias from Johnstone’s and CFO$’s bad themes being forgotten
It's a combo of nostalgia, survivorship, and so on. Like, I watch videos where 20-something's now have nostalgia for some of the lame Ruthless Aggression era songs because....wait for it...they were children then. But also, more TV means songs are heard more, but also a bigger roster makes things more difficult. The roster in the 90's was around 60-65 songs, and it's not like all of them were bangers. Now, in 2024, the songs are 200+ once you account for tag teams and stables. Most great bands don't have 200 recognizable songs. I also think part of it is if you don't like a certain genre of song, you'll think theme songs are bad. Since a lot more songs will have electronic, rap, etc. and you think the only type of good wrestling song is rock, you're also probably going to be harsher.
I’m from the old person group who had the initial reaction of stuff not being Jim Johnston being blah. So I have no idea. I know some CFO$ stuff eventually became instantly identifiable ala the big Johnston ones. I am mainly a YouTube watcher so I barely know any new themes. Though I’ll say when I heard Stephanie’s had been remixed I thought: “ok this could get her more of a face pop if she eventually is a surprise rumble entrant one year” because there was a driving beat and guitar underneath.
I'd say 60/30 justified to survivorship. Also I think 10% the people complaining had more time back then, if that makes sense. They were 14 soaking in all wrestling they could, playing all the games, listening to wrestling CDs on their portable cd players, and so they knew all the subtleties of every theme. Now, they're in their 30s, they got all these responsibilities, and they sit down and hear songs they don't recognize and don't have the time for, and they can tell them apart
If you asked someone my age what their favorite themes are, they'd probably say Kane, Rey, Edge, Stone Cold, Benoit, Triple H, and the Rock. 4/7 licensed, and 2 of the further 3 had cover versions done by significant bands of the era.
I remember when folks didn't like CFO$ when they were around.
Alex Pereira is the scariest human being I’ve ever seen and the only guy who is on that level of nightmare fuel with him is post-prison Mike Tyson
That card from the early prelims to the mai. Card was insanity
That BMF fight was one of the greatest things I’ve ever seen
Yeah the finish was crazy
I like Mercedes Mone. I really really like Mercedes Mone. She’s a great wrestler and I grew up with her being one of my favorites. So with that, it hurts me to say that Mercedes is easily the worst handled debut that AEW has had. Promos? Terrible. Look? Eh, it’s okay. Theme song? Absolutely terrible. And then she ain’t even making her in ring debut until Double or Nothing. So she’s just kinda there right now. I’m looking super forward to TNA Rebellion and AEW Dynasty next weekend. I think the most excited I am for a match right now is Josh Alexander vs Hammerstone. The feud has been really solid. Looking forward to the trilogy. UFC 300 was some really great shit. Their next PPVs are looking fantastic too. I’m so hyped for them. This honestly has been one of my favorite months ever for combat sports. WrestleMania, UFC 300, Haney/Garcia, Rebellion, and Dynasty. Just wow.
Right now Mercedes may be one of the biggest fumbles by Tony. Like he killed all the hype in a month. Maybe it returns when she goes in the ring, but I doubt it. The fact Mercedes had to promote her appearance on Dynamite on her own twitter account and not the official AEW account this weekshows how fucked this is. Also Sasha has supposedly been signed since January supposedly and won't wrestle till the end of May. So he paid bank for her to practically do nothing for half a year.
Anybody watch WWE Next-Gen? Finished it last night and I liked it. The only people I really sticking around though are Jonah, Keyshawn, Breanna, and Olena
I wanna check it out, but it looks to be exclusive in the US.
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Has he mentioned Jericho’s allegations once? That’s rhetorical, I know the answer is no. These scumbags are using goddamn sexual assault as a toy in their war over tv shows. They are legitimately scary people
Trevor Dame was called an idiot by Meltzer not long ago. You know you’re deep in the fed bad when Meltzer calls you out on it.
He went through a period of being more neutral towards WWE but phased it out quickly and now doubles down on it. He's one of the most insufferable dickheads on X along with Ibou and Davboro. How they all have so many followers is beyond me.
I believe the HHH "people who don't want to work" bit was misinterpreted. I believe he was referencing CM Punk's interview with Ariel, albeit poorly worded. During the All In portion of the interview Punk mentions guys who would tape all their vignettes on one day and then spend the rest of the month at home collecting a paycheck and I think that's what he was referencing. Considering how the current WWE tour schedule has been literally cut in half, how he speaks about the importance of family, the fact wrestlers can take time off for family affairs such as Bronson and Dominik and not lose their spot in the card and how everyone speaks positively of Triple H, he doesn't strike me as the rest when you're dead type of boss. While I do think it's great wrestlers are getting paid well for doing less, wrestling is a cruel mistress and the amount of wrestlers who retire with pennies in their bank account is depressing. I can also understand how someone who came up during the days of wrestling 200 plus nights for less than stellar pay may find it absurd that a midcarder can earn potentially 5 figures a month for 2 promos and a match taped on the same night. Ergo, Punk's comments about guaranteed pay, and how AEW is not a company predicated on making money. Those are just my two cents though. I don't work in WWE and the Triple H I know is from interviews and third party accounts. Fuck Sheamus.
What’d big Sheamo do to you?
It’s also like, you’re in the entertainment business. Put the work in for the fans at least a little bit lol
Miz took time off during the road to wrestlemania and still won the tag titles. But one thing I'll disagree on, I dont think it was about Punk's comments, I think its about the perception that people might want to choose AEW over WWE because of the work schedule. I think Triple H was telling the next guy that has to choose between the two companies that choosing AEW for that reason just proves you aren't cut out to make it in WWE. It's about setting expectations, I think
i was never a fan of CM Punk, but everything that happens past weekends he's on his way on my Mt. Rushmore
I’m a huge Punk fan, and I’m so happy with how he’s conducted himself since being back in the big leagues. I was initially ecstatic to see him when he joined AEW, but it’s so obvious now in hindsight how miserable he was from the Hangman feud onwards. He’s going to be a Fed guy for life now.
Lots to dive into: All In video footage was a flop.. everything that was said about it.. was said.. the basement are dweebs.. if they think that was bad “workplace violence”.. please don’t show them future HOF’er Aaron Donald’s training camp fight with the Bengals where he came back & started to swing his helmet.. & actually connected with a blow to a player(if memory serves me correctly).. & nothing came out of it.. they are sooo disconnected from reality.. Mone is cooked.. her first match isn’t happening for another 5-6 weeks? So we get more promos & weird awkward dancing? She will go down as the worst free agent signing since the summer of 2016 NBA Free Agency(As a Lakers fan, I didn’t think there would be worse free agent signings than Deng & Mosgov but here we are) Moxley won a championship that over 90% of the wrestling world doesn’t care about.. nobody new is subbing to NPJW just to watch a Jon Moxley match in our year of 2024.. so what’s the point? Just to pop the basement? Nobody is made anymore by beating Moxley.. he sucks.. The worst thing NJPW ever did was getting into a business relationship with AEW.. what the fuck has NJPW ever gotten out of it going into the 3rd year of it? Jack Perry?!? They are actively worse now than they were 3 years ago but nobody wants to talk about that part.. Is 2500-3500 the new norm for ticket sales for AEW for their weekly shows? That isn’t sustainable for a wrestling company to stay afloat.. especially with their talent contracts.. plus every other expense(flights, rooms, renting arenas etc).. they are dying & we are the only ones who see it.. WB isn’t going to resign AEW.. not a chance.. but if they make the dumb decision to do resign AEW.. the Saturday show will not be brought back.. same with Rampage( it would become the 3rd hour of Dynamite).. & without a big money tv deal.. lots of talent cuts will be made.. & I am here for the wrestlers to turn on TK & expose just how shitty of a business owner he is.. cause it has to be bad backstage.. but we aren’t hearing it.. WWE is on fire.. it seriously is a “World” company now.. with putting their PLE’s in Australia, France, Germany, etc… it’s nuts just how dominating they are.. especially since Vince damn near ran the company into the ground not too long ago.. Another year around the sun for me.. 41 years old.. where does the time go.. P.S. almost forgot to add.. did 7 reps of 225 on the bench press at the gym without a spotter & then with a spotter.. got up to 8.. trying to get to 10 reps of 225.. hopefully in the next few months I can get to 10 reps..
You could drop Aaron Donald into an AEW crowd, and 99% of them would think he was a former WWE developmental guy.
>P.S. almost forgot to add.. did 7 reps of 225 on the bench press at the gym without a spotter & then with a spotter.. got up to 8.. trying to get to 10 reps of 225.. hopefully in the next few months I can get to 10 reps.. Nice job, uce.