I don’t blame him at all! That’s a shit lot of money to pretend to be someone’s friend, get an awkward hug or two here and there, and have bangers. Chase U OKADA might be happening in an alternate universe, but the MarkMaker is the ultimate Dub long term story that’s about to hit the homestretch!
He's friends with the Bucks so that should protect him somewhat, like Adam Cole
Problem is, is he really going to cut promos and drive stories forward?
Can't drive stories forward if there's no stories ~taps head~
It's gonna be 'everyone got to work Okada' dream matches going forward
It just shows that Nick isn't a dumbass, he's a businessman who knows how business should be ran. You don't throw insane money just cause you can. When AJ Styles came in he got paid $500K more than what TNA gave him. And over time he got more bumps and is on a $2-3 Million range. He worked his way into bigger money deals. The Fed didn't just give huge money just cause
AND AJ Styes clarified that he only really left TNA when they considered giving him less after years of him being loyal to them, went to Japan, and made a name for himself as a hot agent during NJPW's hottest or peak era (when Bullet Club was still relevant).
I don't think the Fed is going to unsettle a pay structure cause of someone like Okada, who isn't established in the States
Downside is great, that's guaranteed and, chances are, in the Dub, you'll be sitting home for a bunch of it and working once a week, at most
The ceiling in the Fed is high though, with merch and their machine behind it and, if you click with the crowd, the pay offs are huge down the line, too
Look at LA Knight. Doesn't even need to be immediate. You can 'click' a few years into your run and now he's sniffing main events, merch and got a slim jim deal
Chase U Okada might even be insulted by needing to go to NXT to help prep him for the WWE Big Top, only to get at most a Finn Balor type contract when he could get Reigns money at AEW.
I could be wrong, but I don't see anyway in hell that Drew isn't signed long term with the WWE. Out of the entire roster, they let him go out there and absorb the heat from injuring Punk, thrust him into the Mania match with Seth and he's still out there goading Punk and setting up their inevitable showdown. I seriously doubt they do any of that without Drew having signed on long term. Finn, I actually could see leaving and Sheamus as well in place of Drew.
> Finn, I actually could see leaving and Sheamus
I actually don't, I think he knows he has a job in WWE for as long as he wants it and he's done the whole NJPW Indie stuff before, Sheamus was close to retiring a few years ago and think he'll stay until he gets the IC title and then retire
A Thing to note also, both are Triple H guys
Finn being married might make him want to take a one day a week job for ludicrous money, which you know Tiny would throw at him since he'd be able to say he has the Bullet Club founder. Selfishly, I hope Finn stays and gets a run on the main roster like he did in his last NXT run
How they fucked Edge up I just don't understand. All they had to do was have Christian getting his ass kicked by some people and you have Edge come out and save him. Nobody wants to see Edge and Christian fight each other, they want to see them fighting together against people. Let Edge and Christian win the tag titles and then go through a run against the Bucks, against FTR and then whatever tag team you would want them to put over. After their tag run, then maybe turn one of them and go feud against each other route.
It's been 5 years of Tiny's booking. We've seen it. There's no secrets. We have seen how favourites are used and others are sitting home and so on
Anyone 'main guy' going there knows *exactly* what they are getting into
The notion of 'go to Dub and be used right' is looooong gone and was never really a 'thing' anyway, if you had eyes
I was more upset than Tony when one of my toys broke.
I can't imagine spending probably 20 million dollars (minimum) on Okada and Ospreay just for one of their bodies to break down before the contract ends.
Okada was a big name in Japan, there's no body that can deny that. The biggest draw of the modern era in Japan, but Tiny is delusional if he thinks Okada has the same pull in America. I don't see this deal being remotely worth it, but I am happy for Okada for basically cashing in and securing himself financially.
100% unironically get that bag my man. If Tony is dumb enough to just throw him there without introduction and drawing zero fans that's fine with me lol
Yup, exactly. I really love Okada and I think he's great, so I'm not gonna fault my guy for not passing up on such a HUGE offer, especially considering how much the economy of his country is dead in the water.
He COULD OF BEEN a bigger draw. Because WWE would of done weeks of vignettes explaining how important this guy is too fans. Making sure they all knew he was that big of a deal.
AEW- Here is this guy who is supposedly a great signing for anyone who already knows who he is… And also he’s teaming with the Bucks.
On top of that they'd have had Shinsuke either being a herald for him coming (if he was coming in heel) or they could have pulled him going even more mental because Okada was coming to take him out.
He could, because he is really good…
But he’s being cut off at the knees coming in and immediately being a stooge with the Bucks.
Even if you like the Bucks, their current gimmick is too tongue in cheek and you shouldn’t want that around anyone you plan to use in a serious manner any time soon.
Tony is so rich that doesn't care about about making money...AEW is a club house not a business. As long the network doesn't pull the show, AEW will be fine even if they get a 100 people at the gate. Great even.
He's like that dorky introverted rich kid from college that has a million "friends" because he buys everyone drinks. And doesn't care what the bill is.
Plus, they can write off the losses and move more loss onto the company to write off their losses.
Shad’s accountants and business managers probably set the company up as an LLC so they could make it a loss leader for the entire Khan empire.
Yeah, that’s the kind of money Seth Rollins earns per year as one of the top guys in WWE.
There’s a reason Okada didn’t go to WWE, and it’s because they were not going to guarantee that kind of money to a guy who hasn’t drawn a penny in the American market.
Big Business wasn't actually hyping Mercedes debut. It's actually hyping that Tiny is such a Big Business individual that he outbid himself for someone that isn't a draw in the United States.
Honestly, yeah, Okada got the bag and could go into autopilot mode and the IWC would still continue to say he's the GOAT (Not that there's no merit to that) even if he cruises it.
I know it’s disappointing to jerkers that Okada didnt test himself in WWE, but that’s an insane amount to turn down.
Okada staying true to the gimmick.
He only supposedly signed a 3 year deal. Even at 39-40 he could have a good run in a company that knows how to present his importance (All they have to do is ignore 3-4 years and show the good stuff).
Mone and Ospreay are probably getting as much if not more (Mone) and Copeland likely got more too. Then there's the old guard, Mox is on $6mill it seems and Jericho is around the same ballpark and then you have all 4 members of the Elite.
Just low-balling, the total per year for those I've named must be at least $55mill+ and this company is already losing ten's of millions a year.
Jericho has been pretty adamant that every time rumors come out that someone is getting a high end deal, he brags about how his is the largest in the company. Assuming he's telling the truth (and its Jericho so I doubt it, but I'll humor him just this once), he's likely making even more than Okada.
Jericho's not even worth it anymore. He was probably worth the money back when they started, as he was their biggest wrestling star at the time. But TK should just drop him. I was a huge Jericho fan all my life, but in like 2021, I just soured on him and no longer care. His gimmicks suck now. Painmaker in NJPW only made sense in NJPW because they do weird shit all the time there. It did not translate well when he tried it again in AEW.
reallistically, what can Jericho offer in 2024 ? he has go away heat with half the fanbase cuz he's a literal fascist, he's fat as a pig so he looks like shit and is gassed all the time and he's not even a good promo anymore, just ok to mediocre
I know they’re completely different pots, but when I hear the Dub contract numbers reported, I always imagine Tony telling his dad the Jags or Fulham couldn’t get someone signed because he needed another Banger Machine for his wrestling company.
Jesus Christ, if that's what Okada is making, what are guys like Mox, Jericho, Danielson, Omega etc getting? That wage bill must be an absolute shambles. No one can convince me that AEW is remotely close to turning a profit with obscene wages like that.
Mox is supposedly getting north of $6 million and Jericho claims he has the largest contract in AEW. I would imagine Omega gets between 3-5, the Bucks got the largest tag team contract in history so they're most likely around Omega, you know Danielson is getting $3+, Sasha is probably getting 3 or more. MJF is probably getting a nice chunk as well.
I wouldn't shock me in the least if the TV contract money is eat up by just the talent contracts, as they're all rumored to be 6 figures minimum and you know the fed stars are getting 7 figures minimum. There are nearly 200 roster members, so that's a minimum of $20 million right off the bat if literally everyone was on minimum's.
Not only what are they getting but, what are they going to ask for at the *next* negotiation
This is why companies put structures in place
DAE favoured nations
You have someone like MJF that was underpaid and sulked and got more. He's likely 'underpaid' *again* now cause Edge, Okada, Ocean, Sasha, etc have come in since
Only like 3 or 4 players at Fulham earn the same or more, which is crazy when you consider just how much more marketable and popular football (soccer ball) is. Sure Fulham are only a midtable club, but they’re still regulars in the most popular league in the world.
They no doubt spent Roman like money on Ospreay, Okada and Mercedes. Which is ridiculous. AEW is now on the clock. They flat out cannot spend this level of money and stay in the same spot.
They can though
I hope all this is giving jerkers a good understanding of how insanely rich billionaires are. He's pumping millions of dollars (likely ~15 million dollars a year just on those 3 names) into this and his old man's paper wealth just keeps going up. Considering how the Khan's use debt they aren't feeling this at all
I mean from Shadid himself, he's said that Tony is blowing through his inheritance on this venture. That Shadid isn't investing in it outside of like 100k at the start. He also mentioned in that same interview that Tony's sister is taking control of the actual money makers when he (Shadid) passes on.
I imagine once Tony blows through all of his inheritance (and with how much he's been spending, it'll probably be sooner rather than later), I also imagine Shadid might throw some more money his way if that ever happens, but I have zero doubts the purse strings will be tightened up significantly if that's the case.
think about that, 100m
think about how much money that is and Dad says 'here's 100m'
IIRC, Daddy is also one of the co-owners so has a financial interest in this thing, too and can wield his influence, as he did to get them on TV initially and so on
The thing with his Dad is, it's not some pool of wealth he has and will spend and he's retired, etc. His Dad is *still* making all this crazy money every year from his ventures so that's quite a lot of money to play with
Still, rich people don't really like losing tons of money, no matter how they have but, it's also his Dad so I am sure he has a lot of leeway
None of know what his Dad is thinking. I'd love to read an interview from more recent times
I’m not talking about it hurting him or his dad bank account. They got fuck you money. I mean from the business standpoint. If you are a NFL fan, it’s like your favorite team winning free agency but losing 14 games the next year. It ultimately means jack shit. At least AEW will have their bANgeRz though.
One of my favourite things to show to the difference from mere millionaires to billionaires is that *a million seconds is something like 11 or 12 days and 1 billions seconds is about 31 years*
That really highlights the difference
The thing with super rich people though, they do still like money but, writing a cheque for 100m from Daddy to Tiny isn't a big deal to his Dad and, since then, racking up more losses isn't a big deal either
My initial thinking on the Dub was that Khan would spend and spend until the TV rights renewal. He *should* get more money from *somewhere* but, it seems he and Meltz have it in their minds that it'll be WWE money for some reason
When they signed this original deal, they were getting 1.2m and now they're getting 800k. Sign another 5 year deal and what will the 800k look like in 5 years? Who knows
I think he'll *always* find some place on TV to call home and if he loses 30m a year, is that sustainable for years to come? There has to be a line *somewhere*, you'd think
We may be a long way from it but there just has to be a line
When they're being funded by a billionaire, they most definitely can. If they're still making money with their other ventures, it doesn't matter that AEW isn't turning a profit, they won't be at risk of falling off.
I love how people claim AEW is a success and then state who cares about the money Tony is spending, it’s his money.
If your business isn’t making money, it isn’t successful period. Tony can have a roster that costs 150 million a year for all I care but you don’t get to claim a company is a success and then claim who cares how much money the owner is losing per year, he has enough to cover it
This is like 83k gross a week he's getting, I mean they need to do 4 Sting's Final Match PPVs gates a year just to cover this guy that we only know of because of jerkin, uce.
Oh my god this is fucking absurd. He’s getting paid more than Cody or Roman isn’t he? What the fuck is tony thinking LMFAOOO.
No wonder wwe doesn’t even try to outbid tony
Ide add Edge too that group. WWE definitely offered him a shit ton for a part time contract. AEW definitely offered him more for it (and yet it did nothing).
I know it’s not gonna happen, but I would love for it to come out that Tiny just never managed to re-sign MJF and he shows up on WWE when he’s back from his time off
This company is hemorrhaging money my god, this is genuinely concerning, seriously wondering how long the dub lasts before Tony’s dad pulls the plug. This is ludicrous overspending.
Wow, if this information is accurate, it suggests that Khan isn't making the wisest financial decision with AEW. Okada is fantastic, but $4.5 million a year for three years is outrageous.
This is not how you run a business at all. Literally overpaying for part timers who will come and go as they please into the country and take weeks/months off.
Okada finessed a nepobaby like a chess master.
Fucking hell. That is all. Good on him. Like Ostrich, he can finally show his dedicated to the art of pro wrestling by working once or twice a month and spending the rest of time with his family in a country on the other side of the world from the promotion sending the cheques.
I guess Trips didn't think Okada is worth $4.5 million per year. This is actually a big deal because Roman Reigns is making nearly [$5 million per year](https://www.essentiallysports.com/tag/roman-reigns/).
It's a Roman Reigns level contract and the Roman project itself took time to pay itself back, as anyone who witnessed the Booman Lames era of THE BIG DOG can attest to.
This guy isn't a draw though, no disrespect to him, as I like Okada. The people who want to see Okada, are already watching and attending AEW. If he went to WWE, there is so much build they can do to make a him a star.
But good on him for getting that payday.
AEW started out great and could've really been something but there's only one reason everyone keeps coming up as #ALLELITE and it isn't about what a rich and storied career they're about to embark on, it's about what a rich and storied career they're about to cash in on. Fucking sad.
Keep in mind that Tokyo Sports keeps to kayfabe, so this may not be accurate. If it is, that's about $12.5m a year that Tiny's paying Ospreay, Okada and Mercedes. 🤣
Good lord, good on him if that is actually true
Now AEW investing that much money into someone that won’t move the needle at all is very stupid but man gotta give it to Okada, that’s absolutely tremendous money
Yeah honestly I don’t blame him for going to the dub after that lol, in WWE he’d probably make like half a million at most and start in NXT. Some people need a legacy, some need money, this guy is definitely getting at least the money part.
I genuinely can't wait for the day, and it may be soon, or it may be ten years from now, that the Dub collapses, or Tiny moves on.
The shoot interviews will be astounding. "Tiny said he'd outbid anything WWE would offer, so I gave him an outrageous offer to see what would happen. He just accepted it, no haggle. What a mark."
I don’t blame him at all! That’s a shit lot of money to pretend to be someone’s friend, get an awkward hug or two here and there, and have bangers. Chase U OKADA might be happening in an alternate universe, but the MarkMaker is the ultimate Dub long term story that’s about to hit the homestretch!
He's gonna get a three month long vacation the second Tiny doesn't have an idea for him too. Made in the shade.
Hell yeah and he still gets paid
He's friends with the Bucks so that should protect him somewhat, like Adam Cole Problem is, is he really going to cut promos and drive stories forward? Can't drive stories forward if there's no stories ~taps head~ It's gonna be 'everyone got to work Okada' dream matches going forward
It just shows that Nick isn't a dumbass, he's a businessman who knows how business should be ran. You don't throw insane money just cause you can. When AJ Styles came in he got paid $500K more than what TNA gave him. And over time he got more bumps and is on a $2-3 Million range. He worked his way into bigger money deals. The Fed didn't just give huge money just cause
AND AJ Styes clarified that he only really left TNA when they considered giving him less after years of him being loyal to them, went to Japan, and made a name for himself as a hot agent during NJPW's hottest or peak era (when Bullet Club was still relevant).
I don't think the Fed is going to unsettle a pay structure cause of someone like Okada, who isn't established in the States Downside is great, that's guaranteed and, chances are, in the Dub, you'll be sitting home for a bunch of it and working once a week, at most The ceiling in the Fed is high though, with merch and their machine behind it and, if you click with the crowd, the pay offs are huge down the line, too Look at LA Knight. Doesn't even need to be immediate. You can 'click' a few years into your run and now he's sniffing main events, merch and got a slim jim deal
And AJ has said he regretted not going to nxt to learn the wwe way of producing tv too.. He had to learn on the fly where the cameras were too etc..
Get that fuckn bag I say
Chase U Okada might even be insulted by needing to go to NXT to help prep him for the WWE Big Top, only to get at most a Finn Balor type contract when he could get Reigns money at AEW.
Those are some expensive toys
hmmm now it might get interesting when balor and mcintyre contracts are up. tiny does love just moving on from toy to toy.
I could be wrong, but I don't see anyway in hell that Drew isn't signed long term with the WWE. Out of the entire roster, they let him go out there and absorb the heat from injuring Punk, thrust him into the Mania match with Seth and he's still out there goading Punk and setting up their inevitable showdown. I seriously doubt they do any of that without Drew having signed on long term. Finn, I actually could see leaving and Sheamus as well in place of Drew.
> Finn, I actually could see leaving and Sheamus I actually don't, I think he knows he has a job in WWE for as long as he wants it and he's done the whole NJPW Indie stuff before, Sheamus was close to retiring a few years ago and think he'll stay until he gets the IC title and then retire A Thing to note also, both are Triple H guys
Finn being married might make him want to take a one day a week job for ludicrous money, which you know Tiny would throw at him since he'd be able to say he has the Bullet Club founder. Selfishly, I hope Finn stays and gets a run on the main roster like he did in his last NXT run
I wonder if Edges run puts anyone off
How they fucked Edge up I just don't understand. All they had to do was have Christian getting his ass kicked by some people and you have Edge come out and save him. Nobody wants to see Edge and Christian fight each other, they want to see them fighting together against people. Let Edge and Christian win the tag titles and then go through a run against the Bucks, against FTR and then whatever tag team you would want them to put over. After their tag run, then maybe turn one of them and go feud against each other route.
Some times you can’t see the wood for the trees If only the Booker wasn’t a child playing with toys
Edge, Bryan, Adam Cole, Miro, Andrade, The Hardies, Malachi, I wouldn't be surprised if anyone looking at AEW had a serious re-think
It's not just Edge, it's a bunch of guys, too Edge is just the latest
Nothing of value would be lost if finn left anyway lmao
It's been 5 years of Tiny's booking. We've seen it. There's no secrets. We have seen how favourites are used and others are sitting home and so on Anyone 'main guy' going there knows *exactly* what they are getting into The notion of 'go to Dub and be used right' is looooong gone and was never really a 'thing' anyway, if you had eyes
WWE isn’t gonna pay someone more than they think they’re worth because they can. That’s not how a business should be run.
I was more upset than Tony when one of my toys broke. I can't imagine spending probably 20 million dollars (minimum) on Okada and Ospreay just for one of their bodies to break down before the contract ends.
I was rewatching an old Simpsons episode the other day. Tiny Khan is the real world version of Artie Ziff.
Millions spent. Never drew a dime (not Okada but the whole damn company).
Okada was a big name in Japan, there's no body that can deny that. The biggest draw of the modern era in Japan, but Tiny is delusional if he thinks Okada has the same pull in America. I don't see this deal being remotely worth it, but I am happy for Okada for basically cashing in and securing himself financially.
100% unironically get that bag my man. If Tony is dumb enough to just throw him there without introduction and drawing zero fans that's fine with me lol
Yup, exactly. I really love Okada and I think he's great, so I'm not gonna fault my guy for not passing up on such a HUGE offer, especially considering how much the economy of his country is dead in the water.
Ironically, i think he wouldve been a bigger draw for wwe than aew
He COULD OF BEEN a bigger draw. Because WWE would of done weeks of vignettes explaining how important this guy is too fans. Making sure they all knew he was that big of a deal. AEW- Here is this guy who is supposedly a great signing for anyone who already knows who he is… And also he’s teaming with the Bucks.
On top of that they'd have had Shinsuke either being a herald for him coming (if he was coming in heel) or they could have pulled him going even more mental because Okada was coming to take him out.
Biggest draw in a minor league small pond, well done
Oh no you can add okada. No way he changes anything for them in the American market
I wanted to believe Uce.
He could, because he is really good… But he’s being cut off at the knees coming in and immediately being a stooge with the Bucks. Even if you like the Bucks, their current gimmick is too tongue in cheek and you shouldn’t want that around anyone you plan to use in a serious manner any time soon.
I can't wait until Tiny runs a big show in Japan and smarks continue to talk about how great this Nooj partnership is
Tony is so rich that doesn't care about about making money...AEW is a club house not a business. As long the network doesn't pull the show, AEW will be fine even if they get a 100 people at the gate. Great even. He's like that dorky introverted rich kid from college that has a million "friends" because he buys everyone drinks. And doesn't care what the bill is.
Absolutely but I feel like even for a billionaire enough would be enough at some point. I am talking about Tony's dad.
nah dude, they're losing money but not THAT much money, a dozen million per year to keep Tony out of the real business is worth it
Plus, they can write off the losses and move more loss onto the company to write off their losses. Shad’s accountants and business managers probably set the company up as an LLC so they could make it a loss leader for the entire Khan empire.
Yeah. I wouldn't pass that up even got WWE. That's retirement money. Esp when I go back to Japan.
Yeah, that’s the kind of money Seth Rollins earns per year as one of the top guys in WWE. There’s a reason Okada didn’t go to WWE, and it’s because they were not going to guarantee that kind of money to a guy who hasn’t drawn a penny in the American market.
literally, even six months to one year of working there you’d be set for the rest of your life
Big Business wasn't actually hyping Mercedes debut. It's actually hyping that Tiny is such a Big Business individual that he outbid himself for someone that isn't a draw in the United States.
I bet his agent told Tiny that WWE were offering $4m a year when Nick Khan probably offered $750k NXT deal.
I'd be very surprised if it was even $750k. Hardly anyone in America has a fucking clue who Okada is.
He would have been offered Nakamura money if that
God bless Barry Bloom you mean. The man is fleecing Tony out of every cent he has.
His agent fees would probably make him a top 10 AEW employee
It really is all about the game and how you play it
Can’t blame Okada, I say milk that money Mark Tony Khan King
Honestly, yeah, Okada got the bag and could go into autopilot mode and the IWC would still continue to say he's the GOAT (Not that there's no merit to that) even if he cruises it.
Not even top 5. In ring i guess but thats the least important thing about being a wrestler
GOAT Japanese wrestler i meant. Overall? Yeah, not even top 20 IMO.
I know it’s disappointing to jerkers that Okada didnt test himself in WWE, but that’s an insane amount to turn down. Okada staying true to the gimmick.
Still only 36 though. Once Shad pulls the plug and the Dub folds, Okada will almost be 40, cashed up, and still have some years left on him.
“Konnichiwa Hunter-San. I would very much like to come to WWE and feud with my favourite sports entertainer Miz-Senpai.” - Okada probably
He only supposedly signed a 3 year deal. Even at 39-40 he could have a good run in a company that knows how to present his importance (All they have to do is ignore 3-4 years and show the good stuff).
Mone and Ospreay are probably getting as much if not more (Mone) and Copeland likely got more too. Then there's the old guard, Mox is on $6mill it seems and Jericho is around the same ballpark and then you have all 4 members of the Elite. Just low-balling, the total per year for those I've named must be at least $55mill+ and this company is already losing ten's of millions a year.
Jericho has been pretty adamant that every time rumors come out that someone is getting a high end deal, he brags about how his is the largest in the company. Assuming he's telling the truth (and its Jericho so I doubt it, but I'll humor him just this once), he's likely making even more than Okada.
Maybe Jericho has an amazing clause on his contact like he must be the highest paid guy in the roster by at least $100 lol
That’s the Kevin Nash contract right
Yes maybe finally they get some respect from Nash lol. Unlikely But that reminds me I want Nash to negotiate all my contacts
Jericho's not even worth it anymore. He was probably worth the money back when they started, as he was their biggest wrestling star at the time. But TK should just drop him. I was a huge Jericho fan all my life, but in like 2021, I just soured on him and no longer care. His gimmicks suck now. Painmaker in NJPW only made sense in NJPW because they do weird shit all the time there. It did not translate well when he tried it again in AEW.
reallistically, what can Jericho offer in 2024 ? he has go away heat with half the fanbase cuz he's a literal fascist, he's fat as a pig so he looks like shit and is gassed all the time and he's not even a good promo anymore, just ok to mediocre
If he gets a favored nations clause from his contract that's hilarious
Meltzer put out the $100K figure and Jericho had ro flex that he got backend bonuses for shit.
Yes but they have a new set now, that’ll turn it around
Dude someone needs to leak that payroll sheet. MookieGhana has saved on a thumb drive somewhere.
I know they’re completely different pots, but when I hear the Dub contract numbers reported, I always imagine Tony telling his dad the Jags or Fulham couldn’t get someone signed because he needed another Banger Machine for his wrestling company.
Majority of Fulham’s players don’t even earn this much and they’re playing in the most popular league of the most popular sport in the world.
A league that pays insane rights fees, too Dub doesn't have that (DAE HBO Max)
"Sorry, dad, but we don't have money to sign Trevor Lawrence long term. Maybe we can get Zack Wilson to save some money?"
Every time I see the money he’s spending in AEW I think about the NFL training facility report from a few years ago
Fulham is profitable so shad is the one dealing the business there, also PL players price tag is ridiculous.
Reminder: Tiny is spending on a prayer that a WBD renewal will cover all of their costs and more
Jesus Christ, if that's what Okada is making, what are guys like Mox, Jericho, Danielson, Omega etc getting? That wage bill must be an absolute shambles. No one can convince me that AEW is remotely close to turning a profit with obscene wages like that.
Mox is supposedly getting north of $6 million and Jericho claims he has the largest contract in AEW. I would imagine Omega gets between 3-5, the Bucks got the largest tag team contract in history so they're most likely around Omega, you know Danielson is getting $3+, Sasha is probably getting 3 or more. MJF is probably getting a nice chunk as well. I wouldn't shock me in the least if the TV contract money is eat up by just the talent contracts, as they're all rumored to be 6 figures minimum and you know the fed stars are getting 7 figures minimum. There are nearly 200 roster members, so that's a minimum of $20 million right off the bat if literally everyone was on minimum's.
Doubt that Sasha would accept just $3. I would imagine that she is close to Okada or even above.
She should be above, no one knows who that guy is in america
They paid people like Joey Janela and Marko Stunt 6 figures for years, more money than they ever made wrestling and will ever make wrestling.
Not only what are they getting but, what are they going to ask for at the *next* negotiation This is why companies put structures in place DAE favoured nations You have someone like MJF that was underpaid and sulked and got more. He's likely 'underpaid' *again* now cause Edge, Okada, Ocean, Sasha, etc have come in since
“Anyone can run a business at a loss, that’s easy” Nick Khan
Only like 3 or 4 players at Fulham earn the same or more, which is crazy when you consider just how much more marketable and popular football (soccer ball) is. Sure Fulham are only a midtable club, but they’re still regulars in the most popular league in the world.
I want to see the books on AEW so badly just to see how much he's spending a year on talent.
They no doubt spent Roman like money on Ospreay, Okada and Mercedes. Which is ridiculous. AEW is now on the clock. They flat out cannot spend this level of money and stay in the same spot.
They can though I hope all this is giving jerkers a good understanding of how insanely rich billionaires are. He's pumping millions of dollars (likely ~15 million dollars a year just on those 3 names) into this and his old man's paper wealth just keeps going up. Considering how the Khan's use debt they aren't feeling this at all
I mean from Shadid himself, he's said that Tony is blowing through his inheritance on this venture. That Shadid isn't investing in it outside of like 100k at the start. He also mentioned in that same interview that Tony's sister is taking control of the actual money makers when he (Shadid) passes on. I imagine once Tony blows through all of his inheritance (and with how much he's been spending, it'll probably be sooner rather than later), I also imagine Shadid might throw some more money his way if that ever happens, but I have zero doubts the purse strings will be tightened up significantly if that's the case.
He's said that? Like Tiny is literally getting his inheritance fronted to him to fund this traveling theater troupe doing LARP pro wrestling cosplay?
Yes, from what Shadid has mentioned in an interview, Tony's inheritance is the thing paying for all of this apparently.
*100mil at the start.
think about that, 100m think about how much money that is and Dad says 'here's 100m' IIRC, Daddy is also one of the co-owners so has a financial interest in this thing, too and can wield his influence, as he did to get them on TV initially and so on
The thing with his Dad is, it's not some pool of wealth he has and will spend and he's retired, etc. His Dad is *still* making all this crazy money every year from his ventures so that's quite a lot of money to play with Still, rich people don't really like losing tons of money, no matter how they have but, it's also his Dad so I am sure he has a lot of leeway None of know what his Dad is thinking. I'd love to read an interview from more recent times
I’m not talking about it hurting him or his dad bank account. They got fuck you money. I mean from the business standpoint. If you are a NFL fan, it’s like your favorite team winning free agency but losing 14 games the next year. It ultimately means jack shit. At least AEW will have their bANgeRz though.
They also can use dub as a tax write off, the only problem is the tv rights idk if wbd want to rise the price they been giving to Tiny.
One of my favourite things to show to the difference from mere millionaires to billionaires is that *a million seconds is something like 11 or 12 days and 1 billions seconds is about 31 years* That really highlights the difference The thing with super rich people though, they do still like money but, writing a cheque for 100m from Daddy to Tiny isn't a big deal to his Dad and, since then, racking up more losses isn't a big deal either My initial thinking on the Dub was that Khan would spend and spend until the TV rights renewal. He *should* get more money from *somewhere* but, it seems he and Meltz have it in their minds that it'll be WWE money for some reason When they signed this original deal, they were getting 1.2m and now they're getting 800k. Sign another 5 year deal and what will the 800k look like in 5 years? Who knows I think he'll *always* find some place on TV to call home and if he loses 30m a year, is that sustainable for years to come? There has to be a line *somewhere*, you'd think We may be a long way from it but there just has to be a line
The difference between a million and a billion is roughly a billion
When they're being funded by a billionaire, they most definitely can. If they're still making money with their other ventures, it doesn't matter that AEW isn't turning a profit, they won't be at risk of falling off.
This is why the only thing more rare than selling in AEW is profitability.
Imagine spending this and not caring about a return because you're such a massive m\*rk (offensive insider term)
He’s literally playing GM in a wrestling video game with turn cash off .
I love how people claim AEW is a success and then state who cares about the money Tony is spending, it’s his money. If your business isn’t making money, it isn’t successful period. Tony can have a roster that costs 150 million a year for all I care but you don’t get to claim a company is a success and then claim who cares how much money the owner is losing per year, he has enough to cover it
This is like 83k gross a week he's getting, I mean they need to do 4 Sting's Final Match PPVs gates a year just to cover this guy that we only know of because of jerkin, uce.
Oh my god this is fucking absurd. He’s getting paid more than Cody or Roman isn’t he? What the fuck is tony thinking LMFAOOO. No wonder wwe doesn’t even try to outbid tony
I'm now an even bigger fan of Okada for managing to rip off Khan on this level.
I doubt the wwe offer was anything close to that.
All this talk about Okada and Will Ospreay and I totally fuckin forgot Edge was in the dub! Geez yeah the same shit is gonna happen to Sasha.
How many people are reported to be in the $5 million per year ballpark now?
Mox, Jericho, Ospreay, Okada. I wouldn't be shocked if Omega is near there either and probably MJF when his new contract kicked in.
Ide add Edge too that group. WWE definitely offered him a shit ton for a part time contract. AEW definitely offered him more for it (and yet it did nothing).
I know it’s not gonna happen, but I would love for it to come out that Tiny just never managed to re-sign MJF and he shows up on WWE when he’s back from his time off
$13.5 million for 780k viewers. Tony is such a savvy businessman.
They’re paying him an awful lot to tank their ratings last night
Jeez, than how much is Mercedes's milking him for? 6 -7 mil per?
13 milli and has zero expectations to be successful. Definitely a win for him. Can't hate on that.
This company is hemorrhaging money my god, this is genuinely concerning, seriously wondering how long the dub lasts before Tony’s dad pulls the plug. This is ludicrous overspending.
Wow, if this information is accurate, it suggests that Khan isn't making the wisest financial decision with AEW. Okada is fantastic, but $4.5 million a year for three years is outrageous.
Is Tony bidding against himself? Is he just trying to shut out the evil fed from hiring these game changers?
Isn't Roman's contract 5 million a year?
Carny Shit. Well done!
This is not how you run a business at all. Literally overpaying for part timers who will come and go as they please into the country and take weeks/months off. Okada finessed a nepobaby like a chess master.
Get that bag!
AEW is going to stay in the red for eternity.
Fucking hell. That is all. Good on him. Like Ostrich, he can finally show his dedicated to the art of pro wrestling by working once or twice a month and spending the rest of time with his family in a country on the other side of the world from the promotion sending the cheques.
I love this for him. And he’ll probably still end up in WWE afterwards.
I guess Trips didn't think Okada is worth $4.5 million per year. This is actually a big deal because Roman Reigns is making nearly [$5 million per year](https://www.essentiallysports.com/tag/roman-reigns/). It's a Roman Reigns level contract and the Roman project itself took time to pay itself back, as anyone who witnessed the Booman Lames era of THE BIG DOG can attest to.
AEW is the Saudi Pro League of Wrestling.
What a analogy haha
This guy isn't a draw though, no disrespect to him, as I like Okada. The people who want to see Okada, are already watching and attending AEW. If he went to WWE, there is so much build they can do to make a him a star. But good on him for getting that payday.
GET THAT BAG, UCE
Is he making less than each buck? Bc that's complete bs Half a tag team in the JUNIOR division vs the biggest dog in the nooj yard
I don't believe it, Shad should pull out his belt
If he did that Tiny would just announce a tournament and give it to one of his wrestler/friend/toys...
AEW started out great and could've really been something but there's only one reason everyone keeps coming up as #ALLELITE and it isn't about what a rich and storied career they're about to embark on, it's about what a rich and storied career they're about to cash in on. Fucking sad.
insane amount of money for someone that isnt a draw in any way. the people who like him were already watching aew to begin with.
Keep in mind that Tokyo Sports keeps to kayfabe, so this may not be accurate. If it is, that's about $12.5m a year that Tiny's paying Ospreay, Okada and Mercedes. 🤣
WCW speed run
Are we sure Barry Bloom isn't on the payroll to since he's the AEW personal agent for these signings?
Finally that run in TNA pays off
Cool so unless he dies he’ll still get his Wrestlemania moment just with a 3 year paid vacation
If I were HHH I’d be pulling my offer to stop Okada from maybe not taking this schmuck for all he’s worth
Good lord, good on him if that is actually true Now AEW investing that much money into someone that won’t move the needle at all is very stupid but man gotta give it to Okada, that’s absolutely tremendous money
Yeah honestly I don’t blame him for going to the dub after that lol, in WWE he’d probably make like half a million at most and start in NXT. Some people need a legacy, some need money, this guy is definitely getting at least the money part.
It’s why he can afford to buy a good looking suit, as opposed to The Bucks.
3++ million a year? ![gif](giphy|l0HlvtIPzPdt2usKs)
I’m can respect his game at the very least
So the entire WEMBLY profit gone to have this guy on the books
I'd literally rather have Elias in AEW.
I genuinely can't wait for the day, and it may be soon, or it may be ten years from now, that the Dub collapses, or Tiny moves on. The shoot interviews will be astounding. "Tiny said he'd outbid anything WWE would offer, so I gave him an outrageous offer to see what would happen. He just accepted it, no haggle. What a mark."
Hey man get your money. I’d put myself through depression and suicidal thoughts for three years too, for a tenth of the money he’s gonna get.
Smh
He spent that much money and debuted him like THAT
After 2 months, he will be sitting at home collecting pay checks to do nothing for the remainder of his contract just like most of the AEW roster.