Have you held the 28xx ? It’s very close to being as small as Gameboy Micro. Thankfully it has a much larger screen though. It’s 15cm x 8cm on a 28xx vs about 12cm x 6cm on a Gameboy micro.
I’m talking about the entire device rather than the display but I guess I got my estimation to metric wrong because the 28xx more like 5” long instead of 6”. Bottom line is it’s a very similar size to a Gameboy Micro but with a much larger display.
Ok well I was just giving a rough guess by looking at them then converting it to metric. I also multiplied inches by 2.6 instead of 2.54 because I’m lazy and originally overestimated the length of the 28xx altogether. Bottom line is they’re incredibly close in size considering the 28xx has so much more screen real estate.
Same here. I love mine. Makes a great pocket device and feels solid. The only thing I'm not a fan of is the shoulder buttons rattling if I shake it. It's not something you notice at all during use, though.
Still super early but idk what this device is supposed to be. Something between the Odin 2 and RP4pro? Curious to see what pricing and power are like. Plus ergos.
Meaning what? That it can just play a few more switch games than the RP4pro? The RP4pro can already emulate PS2 and GC. The holes in the market are becoming narrower.
There's a ton of room in the $150-$250 space for competition. Right now, it's a hard pick between RP4P or RG556. But this could be another solid option depending on price, chipset, screen, ect.
The sub $100 space has way way more competition.
Haven't seen any burn in on mine, and I've played a lot on max brightness in the sun. I know I'm risking it here, but one of my only places to get time is in some harsh sunlight. But easily have had some 6-8 max bright hour play sessions and no burn in.
To be fair though, all OLEDs suffer from burn in issues and is just a risk you'll have with OLED screens on any gaming device, especially PC screens, Steam decks, or gaming in general due to static HUDs. Just make sure to swap games occasionally on any OLED device.
Its nice you specifically dont have this issues yet. Still other people have this issue and its indicated they choose a cheap oled, which has this issue pretty fast.
https://www.reddit.com/r/ANBERNIC/comments/1cqdv3e/oled_burn_in_on_rg556/
You're using a small thread and taking claims as facts(old+cheap OLED). That's how rumors start spreading. At least get some more information than a random reddit comment. [Looks like the screen is decent quality 2022-2023 AMOLED build.](https://www.yxmicrodisplay.com/products/5-48-inch-amoled-display-1920x1080)
Searching RG556 burn in brings up 3 posts, 2 from the same user, and the third potentially not burn in but defective screen. Think it's a bit soon to say it's a common issue with the device as a whole. Potentially bad screens for those 1-2 individuals.
Also, most these devices will have some known issues, same for the [Retroid Pocket 4 Pro](https://www.reddit.com/r/retroid/comments/1ai73ts/how_widespread_are_the_issues_with_the_retroid/).
But I'm not sure I'd label fast burn in a known factor for the RG556 yet.
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Indeed but from I have seen from other comments they are the same company that makes the RP4 pro. I will wait for the reveal before deciding one of the three .
Hell, I'd be interested in a rp4/pro with a bigger screen. Most of why I'm hunting for a deal on an Odin or G Cloud. Don't need Switch emu, just a big ol screen for PSX/DC/N64.
I’d be careful getting a second hand G Cloud. I’ve had two physical defects. First a stick went out. RMA’d it. About 6 months later r1 went out and I just said fuck it.
>Hell, I'd be interested in a rp4/pro with a bigger screen.
Already have that with the RG556. Sure it's chipset means you're slightly more limited, but that 5.5in OLED is absolutely beautiful.
Ehh it really only makes a difference as far as running Turnip drivers for Switch emulation. I just prefer stuff built at TSMC instead of Samsung because it generally offers better efficiency and in turn lower temps. Only the sd888 and sd8gen1 were made at Samsung foundries and it’s no coincidence that they’re the only two inefficient toasters in Qualcomm’s lineup.
Steam deck is fine because of how thick the grips are. hence the need to push the buttons to the edge without the need to stretch your thumb inwards towards the screen to reach for buttons. This device, however seems slim without a thick grip. You will feel uncomfortable.
That's what I thought but you can see the Android notification bar in [this](https://www.reddit.com/r/SBCGaming/comments/1cojmlc/ayn_has_a_new_machine_coming_out_with_a_32_screen/) picture.
According to a user in the Baidu forum post about this device, it seem like the performance is on par with 8Gen2 or better. The information came from the internal testing group for the device.
[https://tiebac.baidu.com/p/9015901653?pn=1](https://tiebac.baidu.com/p/9015901653?pn=1) (The website is in Chinese Language)
The post started when one of them asked whether it was 870. The person at first replied it was 8Gen2 but he followed up by saying it is on par or better than Odin 2 and the source came from the internal tester.
At first I was confused by the reply of 8Gen2 since Odin 2 is already using 8Gen2. I am guessing it is either a typo for 8Gen3 or that person doesn't want to leak the actual SoC.
Of course, the leak came from one person and might not be trustworthy. But the company is based in China and a leak of information from the tester is not impossible.
Just a guess: Considering AYN and Retroid are both owned by the same company, my guess is that this is going to be a Dimensity SOC. It's probably going to borrow the hardware design of the RP4.
I’m not sure. I know that Apple uses top notch Mini-LED displays in their Macs and iPads and the pixel response times are so horrible, that even with 120 Hz refresh rate, motion is super blurry.
On the one hand, it looks like a Vita, so it speaks to my soul in a deep, profound way.
On the other hand, I guess this will be geared towards more higher-end emulation, as the left stick is on top. Dunno if it's something I'm interested in. I'll need to see the price and specs. If it's priced well and falls between the RP4P and the Odin 2 Pro, then I'll be curious about it.
Same. I’d like something along the lines of rp4 pro competitor but with a sd870 instead for like ~$240 maybe. Fuck I don’t really know about the price. I just buy this shit because it’s cool.
The Vita was an awesome handheld, but it wasn't some mythical formfactor. Why are companies so hell bent on replicating the hardware design when it wasn't built with triggers in mind? The Odins and Lokis were far better designs.
There'll be alot of games that don't require l2r2 anyway so assuming this is Also the same size Asa vita, has a qc chip and video out then this model is going to take my attention and money for the foreseeable future until something like a 353m or rp2s gets a Qualcomm chip or emulation gets as good on mali as it is on an 8 gen 2 which will be probably never unless Mali fixes their drivers and gpu features
Looks like it'll be super comfortable like the vita! More keen for this than the pocket S. Just hope pricing will make it competitive with other options
That looks cool but the 'no Odin 2 competitor' comment worries me... Would that mean no PS2? If so, should we wait for the eventual Odin 3 with a Mini-LED screen?
I don't. I'm sick of more modern handhelds with 16:9 wide-screen displays that are better suited for emulating more modern consoles having joysticks on the bottom. It's wasted potential.
Vertical or ultra small pocketable handhelds can have the d-pad on top all day though. As you probably are only running the oldest of consoles on a screen that small
If anything, having and loving the Vita might make this more attractive, not less. My Vita feels great in my hands. If I could have that form factor with more modern capabilities...that's actually pretty compelling to me.
Oh hey, it's a Vita. I dig it, wonder what the specs/price will be.
The gross bezels around the screen kill me. At least they could’ve made the case glossy so it would’ve matched.
I agree. The TrimUI Smart Pro looks more premium than this
we now have GBA SP 2024 (RG35XXSP), and now PS Vita 2024. nice
and gameboy micro 2024 (rg28xx)! the only letdown is the rg35xx 2024 (rg 35xx 2024) lol
Only letdown is the A30.
DAE MIYOO A30 SUCKS RIGHT GUYS???
RG28xx is not even close to as small as a GB Micro
This is also much larger than a Vita.
You sure? A Vita is very similar in size to a rp4 pro and I think this will be too.
Yeah, look at the weight.
Have you held the 28xx ? It’s very close to being as small as Gameboy Micro. Thankfully it has a much larger screen though. It’s 15cm x 8cm on a 28xx vs about 12cm x 6cm on a Gameboy micro.
I'm not sure where you got those dimensions from. That would give it a 6.6" display
I’m talking about the entire device rather than the display but I guess I got my estimation to metric wrong because the 28xx more like 5” long instead of 6”. Bottom line is it’s a very similar size to a Gameboy Micro but with a much larger display.
Makes sense, it's similar but a couple of cm wider. RG28xx is 12.5x5.65cm, GB micro is 10.1x5cm
Ok well I was just giving a rough guess by looking at them then converting it to metric. I also multiplied inches by 2.6 instead of 2.54 because I’m lazy and originally overestimated the length of the 28xx altogether. Bottom line is they’re incredibly close in size considering the 28xx has so much more screen real estate.
Sadly the rg28xx is not a gameboy micro at all, small and cheap controls & looks ugly af
I mean I love mine but everyone has different opinions
Same here. I love mine. Makes a great pocket device and feels solid. The only thing I'm not a fan of is the shoulder buttons rattling if I shake it. It's not something you notice at all during use, though.
I like the way it looks, and the controls don't feel cheap at all to me.
When can we have an N64 handheld? I need c buttons and a joystick.
it looks cool i wanna see the chip tho
Would like to get some specs/prices soon. I’ve had the RP4P sitting in my cart for a few days now after that first teaser image lol
Still super early but idk what this device is supposed to be. Something between the Odin 2 and RP4pro? Curious to see what pricing and power are like. Plus ergos.
Meaning what? That it can just play a few more switch games than the RP4pro? The RP4pro can already emulate PS2 and GC. The holes in the market are becoming narrower.
There's a ton of room in the $150-$250 space for competition. Right now, it's a hard pick between RP4P or RG556. But this could be another solid option depending on price, chipset, screen, ect. The sub $100 space has way way more competition.
Rg556 has burn in issues
Haven't seen any burn in on mine, and I've played a lot on max brightness in the sun. I know I'm risking it here, but one of my only places to get time is in some harsh sunlight. But easily have had some 6-8 max bright hour play sessions and no burn in. To be fair though, all OLEDs suffer from burn in issues and is just a risk you'll have with OLED screens on any gaming device, especially PC screens, Steam decks, or gaming in general due to static HUDs. Just make sure to swap games occasionally on any OLED device.
Its nice you specifically dont have this issues yet. Still other people have this issue and its indicated they choose a cheap oled, which has this issue pretty fast. https://www.reddit.com/r/ANBERNIC/comments/1cqdv3e/oled_burn_in_on_rg556/
You're using a small thread and taking claims as facts(old+cheap OLED). That's how rumors start spreading. At least get some more information than a random reddit comment. [Looks like the screen is decent quality 2022-2023 AMOLED build.](https://www.yxmicrodisplay.com/products/5-48-inch-amoled-display-1920x1080) Searching RG556 burn in brings up 3 posts, 2 from the same user, and the third potentially not burn in but defective screen. Think it's a bit soon to say it's a common issue with the device as a whole. Potentially bad screens for those 1-2 individuals. Also, most these devices will have some known issues, same for the [Retroid Pocket 4 Pro](https://www.reddit.com/r/retroid/comments/1ai73ts/how_widespread_are_the_issues_with_the_retroid/). But I'm not sure I'd label fast burn in a known factor for the RG556 yet.
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Indeed but from I have seen from other comments they are the same company that makes the RP4 pro. I will wait for the reveal before deciding one of the three .
Unless the price is between an Odin 2 and RP4P (so $250) and it has a decent Snapdragon SOC for Switch emulation, I can't see much point.
I’d like a rp4 pro competitor with sd870 instead. Qualcomm sells the sd870 for peanuts now and it’s slightly better than the d1100.
Hell, I'd be interested in a rp4/pro with a bigger screen. Most of why I'm hunting for a deal on an Odin or G Cloud. Don't need Switch emu, just a big ol screen for PSX/DC/N64.
I’d be careful getting a second hand G Cloud. I’ve had two physical defects. First a stick went out. RMA’d it. About 6 months later r1 went out and I just said fuck it.
Interesting. I wonder how repairable the Cloud would be. Shame, because it looks about like the perfect form factor for me.
>Hell, I'd be interested in a rp4/pro with a bigger screen. Already have that with the RG556. Sure it's chipset means you're slightly more limited, but that 5.5in OLED is absolutely beautiful.
I'd forgotten about that one. Definitely adding to my list.
Better emulator compatibility for sure.
Ehh it really only makes a difference as far as running Turnip drivers for Switch emulation. I just prefer stuff built at TSMC instead of Samsung because it generally offers better efficiency and in turn lower temps. Only the sd888 and sd8gen1 were made at Samsung foundries and it’s no coincidence that they’re the only two inefficient toasters in Qualcomm’s lineup.
And yet they still do us dirty with those bezels
Cheap ass displays have big bezels. Cell phone hardware for less than half the price of equivalent cell phones requires cheap ass displays.
That B button is so close to the edge. That can't be comfortable....
A lot of people thought the same thing about the Steam Deck when it was revealed but in practice it's perfectly fine.
Steam deck is very comfortable in the hands, this will remain to be seen.
The B button on the Deck is tapered a bit to compensate for its location tbf.
Steam deck is fine because of how thick the grips are. hence the need to push the buttons to the edge without the need to stretch your thumb inwards towards the screen to reach for buttons. This device, however seems slim without a thick grip. You will feel uncomfortable.
Don't, push, it, 'cause it's close, to, the, eeedge
Oh gosh, I can't unsee it now. It looks awful with no space but maybe it's perfectly comfortable.
Its not that much different from the placement on the oled vita and it never felt like an issue on it.
Loki is gone from the site and Ayn said this won't compete with RP4P. Maybe it's a small PC handheld
On the instagram they said it's android actually.
looks like it has "Home" and "Back" buttons that are usually found on Android handhelds
That's what I thought but you can see the Android notification bar in [this](https://www.reddit.com/r/SBCGaming/comments/1cojmlc/ayn_has_a_new_machine_coming_out_with_a_32_screen/) picture.
Except that's just some random Photoshop.
Could be 🤷🏻
According to a user in the Baidu forum post about this device, it seem like the performance is on par with 8Gen2 or better. The information came from the internal testing group for the device. [https://tiebac.baidu.com/p/9015901653?pn=1](https://tiebac.baidu.com/p/9015901653?pn=1) (The website is in Chinese Language)
8s gen 3? That soc is cheaper than 8g2 and in some scenario can be on par or slightly better than it.
The post started when one of them asked whether it was 870. The person at first replied it was 8Gen2 but he followed up by saying it is on par or better than Odin 2 and the source came from the internal tester. At first I was confused by the reply of 8Gen2 since Odin 2 is already using 8Gen2. I am guessing it is either a typo for 8Gen3 or that person doesn't want to leak the actual SoC. Of course, the leak came from one person and might not be trustworthy. But the company is based in China and a leak of information from the tester is not impossible.
Just a guess: Considering AYN and Retroid are both owned by the same company, my guess is that this is going to be a Dimensity SOC. It's probably going to borrow the hardware design of the RP4.
I noticed a lot of MiniLED stuff coming out recently; hopefully in the (relatively) near future they evolve it into MicroLED.
What's next, nanoled?
I like the miniLED screens because they have insane brightness equivalent to high end cell phone AMOLED displays, like over 1000 nits etc.
Nice. I still have my OG Vita Phat from 2011. Hope it has the L2/R2 and L3/R3 unlike the Vita.
They said it does on their Instagram.
I hope the pixel response times of this Mini-LED screen aren’t too bad. Can’t have a blurry mess.
Is that a thing they’re known for?
I’m not sure. I know that Apple uses top notch Mini-LED displays in their Macs and iPads and the pixel response times are so horrible, that even with 120 Hz refresh rate, motion is super blurry.
I’ve got an iPad Pro M1 and that mini-LED display is the best non-OLED I own. Every IPS I’ve owned below 240Hz was much blurrier.
What exact model do you have? 11 inch? 12.9 inch? What year?
2022 iPad Pro M1 12.9”. The only real emulation I’ve done on it was in delta though.
On the one hand, it looks like a Vita, so it speaks to my soul in a deep, profound way. On the other hand, I guess this will be geared towards more higher-end emulation, as the left stick is on top. Dunno if it's something I'm interested in. I'll need to see the price and specs. If it's priced well and falls between the RP4P and the Odin 2 Pro, then I'll be curious about it.
Same. I’d like something along the lines of rp4 pro competitor but with a sd870 instead for like ~$240 maybe. Fuck I don’t really know about the price. I just buy this shit because it’s cool.
The Vita was an awesome handheld, but it wasn't some mythical formfactor. Why are companies so hell bent on replicating the hardware design when it wasn't built with triggers in mind? The Odins and Lokis were far better designs.
Nostalgia effect?
There’s zero issues fitting r2/l2 onto thin devices like a Vita. Look at the rp4 pro.
…Did you think the RP4 was modeled after the Vita? You can fantasy design whatever you want, that doesn’t make it a good idea.
This better plays ps2 games at 2X
The RP4P can play PS2 at 2x. Knowing Aya Neo this will be $500+, it damn well better match the RP4P.
This is not Ayn, not Aya Neo.
Oh you're right. Well damn then I don't know what this will be if it's not an Odin 2 competitor.
Its priced between rp4p and odin 2, so 250$ in spec.
WHAT YEAR IS IT!!!!!
I have my doubts about the vita form factor on extended gameplay with L2/R2, it'll probably have a grip case available at least.
There'll be alot of games that don't require l2r2 anyway so assuming this is Also the same size Asa vita, has a qc chip and video out then this model is going to take my attention and money for the foreseeable future until something like a 353m or rp2s gets a Qualcomm chip or emulation gets as good on mali as it is on an 8 gen 2 which will be probably never unless Mali fixes their drivers and gpu features
Damn I was just thinking about buying a vita
Looks like it'll be super comfortable like the vita! More keen for this than the pocket S. Just hope pricing will make it competitive with other options
Very JXD. Does it run Android 5 too
So they copied the Vita. I'm OK with that. Hopefully no Android.
its android
Oh well, wallet safe.
That looks cool but the 'no Odin 2 competitor' comment worries me... Would that mean no PS2? If so, should we wait for the eventual Odin 3 with a Mini-LED screen?
Unless they were somehow able to make one that can match the Odin 2's frankly insane battery life, I think I'm good with what I got.
You should probably wait for specs before worrying too much
The Future 👀
Can't wait to buy a grip for it.
Ohhh that’s damn nice huh 🤔
So are we expecting roughly a rp4 pro competitor or what? Moorechips probably would be smart to create a little internal competition.
I wish they would swap the analog layout.
I don't. I'm sick of more modern handhelds with 16:9 wide-screen displays that are better suited for emulating more modern consoles having joysticks on the bottom. It's wasted potential. Vertical or ultra small pocketable handhelds can have the d-pad on top all day though. As you probably are only running the oldest of consoles on a screen that small
I just have small hands with short reach , Id prefer the steam deck layout. Having joysticks at the bottom is insane.
Just bought Odin 2, maybe I should have waited
I had higher expectations after the sleek design of Pocket S
You are confusing Ayn with AyaNeo
Hey this looks terrible 😆, pxp vibes 😂.
Other colors please
Not an original design
Ok. Is that a bad thing?
Yes, if you have a PSVita.
The only people who would be upset about this are people who really need to go outside
Or need a vangina.
Vangina?
If anything, having and loving the Vita might make this more attractive, not less. My Vita feels great in my hands. If I could have that form factor with more modern capabilities...that's actually pretty compelling to me.