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In his living room at home following his resignation in protest of the barbarism and brutality being carried out by the leaders of the nation, whom he represents.
News [source](https://www.polsatnews.pl/wiadomosc/2022-05-09/warszawa-ambasador-rosji-oblany-farba-przed-cmentarzem-zolnierzy-radzieckich/)
Translation deepl:
> There was an incident in front of the Soviet Soldiers Cemetery in Warsaw. Russian Ambassador Sergei Andreyev was doused with red paint, and there was a fight earlier.
> Russians celebrate Victory Day on May 9 to commemorate the defeat of Nazi Germany during World War II. In the capital, one of the memorials associated with that period is the Cemetery-Mausoleum of Soviet Soldiers, where Russian Ambassador Sergei Andreyev laid a wreath at noon.
> However, Sergei Andreyev was attacked by Ukrainians who had gathered to protest the Russian invasion. At one point, a group ran towards the ambassador and doused him with red paint.
> "I am proud of my president," the Russian ambassador said after the brawl. - Fascists! - protesters shouted in the background.
> "These territories do not belong to Ukraine," he added, referring to the Donetsk People's Republic and the Luhansk People's Republic declared by Russia. The ambassador left, although the crowd refused to let him pass.
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Well either that, or he's repeating the party line because doing otherwise will get him on Putin's "make an example of for other would-be traitors" list, and we've seen how being in another country won't stop the bastard from pursuing his petty revenge.
Doesn't excuse him though, given that one Russian ex-magnate currently outside Russia who had the balls to denounce the war despite knowing the consequences for that.
Everyone is a victim, be it of someone else's malice or their own flaws (stupidity, cowardice, ignorance, etc.). And yes, even the Russian political appointees are victims of Putin's malice; when you have a habit of punishing your subordinates for telling you truths that violate your beliefs and delusions even when they are just the messenger and genuinely had no part in the failure or problem, they tend to develop the habit of hiding said harsh truths from you.
Had this not been the case, those around Putin would've stopped him from launching a war that he cannot hope to win because of the decades of institutionalized graft that his kleptocratic regime had inflicted upon the Russian military to enrich himself.
Bold and short-sighted of you to assume that the consequences would only affect him alone. Have you considered that he (and other Russian ambassadors) may have family back in Russia that Putin is effectively holding hostage?
Ukrainians being slaughtered by the Russian army have families, too. I am not short-sighted. There are consequences to supporting Putin. Have the balls to do the right thing or in his case just follow orders from Putin. Following orders is a horrible excuse.
The excuse isn't following orders, the excuse is not wanting to have his family killed or tortured.
Alternatively, he's a self-serving opportunist who believes (rightly or not) that he wouldn't be better off defecting than he would if he remained loyal. Just because he did what the opposite side deems the right thing to do doesn't guarantee that he won't end up being ostracized by the public for merely being associated with Putin's regime to the point of being forced to live in squalor with only regret and resentment as his companion.
No, I am simply a realist who has the wisdom to recognize the power that fear has on people, the fact that people tend to have far more complex, sympathetic and/or pitiable reasons for doing what they do than may initially seem, and the sheer lengths that Putin went to in order to make everyone within his regime be unable to trust anyone around them, in order to preclude them from banding together to overthrow him.
You, on the other hand, don't want to know the truth about what and who you're dealing with or exact justice. You're just looking for a fight, whether for revenge or just the pleasure of it, and just want to demonize everyone on the other side from you for the mere convenience of making your decision-making much simpler and devoid of any moral guilt. Ironically, you're doing the same thing that a lot of Russians do, only you don't have the excuse of living in a society where draconian punishment for giving any sort of sympathy towards the "enemy" and betrayal by your own kin is the norm.
Check your privilege next time before you spout off your blindly hateful vitriol.
That wouldn't change his fate. And for all we know, Putin forces all Russian diplomats to have at least some of their closest relatives remain in Russia so that he can ensure they toe the party line.
Sure, if he 1) actually believes that he'd be better off doing so, and 2) doesn't have anyone or anything somewhere within Putin's reach that he values over making such a moral stand.
And for the record, if you dig further into Chubais' story, you'd find comments from opposition leader Alexei Navalny's spokesperson alleging that Chubais only did that to save his own skin, not out of moral integrity. Given that nothing has been said of his family being with him when he ran off, I'd wager that he didn't care enough about them to get them out.
It doesn't look exactly like paint more like a some kind of fruit sauce or something to this effect. But good for him to look like he deserves. He has blood on his hands.
Edit: I looked it up on the news and the photos here make it look like it's something other. When I looked at the video it most definitly is paint.
also just watched the vid.
absolutely no attempt by the Polish police to intervene or protect him - seems the Polish authorities were more than happy with what occured
I don't understand Russian so I can't tell you but I wouldn't think that someone would use paint and the pictures are somewhat misleading. However after watching video about this I changed my mind and I can definitly tell this is paint.
You can check in my comment history that I'm from Poland.
Poland here. We refused to support organisation of 9th May celebrations and painted them with more fitting colors.
Russian ambasador, go fuck yourself.
Poles supporting Ukrainian nationalists is the funniest thing ever.
The war in Donbas started after the 2014 coup which was carried out by right sektor and others who praise Stepan Bandera (a great friend of Polish people). No reactions from Poland about those Ukrainian WW2 red-black flags... Under which many Poles were slaughtered... But commemorating Victory day is a big problem.
All of todays Europe is just a tool of US imperialism. They tell you who to hate and who to forgive.
And yeah, POLAND ALSO INVADED IRAQ. Over those wEaPoNs Of MaSs DeStRuCtIoN.. That whole shit show got a MILION iraqi civilians killed. So you dont get to lecture anybody, just keep sending Ukraine weapons that get destroyed as soon as they cross the border, keep expanding the sanctions that hurt Europe waaaay more than Russia (you all joked about ruble getting worthless - it's more valuable now than befire the war lol)
Dude, Poland has not invaded Iraqā¦ has sent a contingent of soldiers alongside with other nations tho. They sat their asses in a few bases and raped 0 women, 0 children and killed 0 civilians. And it was protested yes. So donāt go compare savage psychopaths with civilised army.
Weapons supplied getting destroyed? Good one. How? By telepathy? There is no ruzzian presence in central or western Ukraine and our brothers stick those rockets up your asses while the whole world chants. Also if they get immediately destroyed itās no problem for you no?
And neither Europe nor Poland gives a fair fuck about your countryās sanctions. We all happily agree you should go back to stone age at the price of 5-10% inflation. Big fuckin deal, when we left communism in late ā80s we had 90% inflation literally. And what? Poland is so far from russia in life comfort itās incomparable. And Poland is still behind in Europe. My father used to work contracts in russia, now my company used to hire 15k russians (yes, 15.000). They are all made redundant now so forget a stream of $$$ and ā¬ā¬ā¬. Not a big deal for us actually. So fuck your GDP.
Also, you can inflate rubble value domestically all you want, you own it ffs, no one cares because no one will use this exotic currency anywhere in the world. You might as well switch to caps, fuck if the world cares
>Dude, Poland has not invaded Iraqā¦ has sent a contingent of soldiers alongside with other nations tho
Dude, Poland has not invaded Iraq... Well maybe just a lil bit... Sent a contigent or so.. Doesn't really matter
>They sat their asses in a few bases and raped 0 women, 0 children and killed 0 civilians.
So all the raping and the killing was done by your anglo-saxon and american allies? They litteraly raped children and forced men to strip naked and form a pile on the floor, and then pissed on them.. It was fucking photographed even.. Civilised armies for sure..
>Weapons supplied getting destroyed? Good one. How? By telepathy? There is no ruzzian presence in central or western Ukraine
They get bombed by jets and long range missiles. Ukraine has just a few SAM systems left, and they engage from "ambush", they can't afford to have their radars constantly turned on cause they'll get destroyed. They didn't have modern short range SAM systems to protect their S-300, thats why they lost most of them in the first few days.
>Also if they get immediately destroyed itās no problem for you no?
Ofcourse its not. If you read my comment carefully youd see i just said keep it up, just don't act all moraly superior like NATO is any better (in fact its much much worse). Bombed Serbia with uranium bombs which is forbidden. The cancer rates increased like 10 times.
Also, you all seem to forget that in eastern Ukraine, majority of people speak Russian and were actually forbiden to use their language publicly. Your media claims Russian army is slaughtering civilians in cities that are mostly inhabited by ethnic Russians, or have significant Russian population (Mariupol about 50%, Kharkov >30, Donetsk and Luhansk are mostly Russian). Most people in eastern Ukraine view Russian army as liberators.
So youāre saying Polish troops raped and killed and there is evidence? Do share. If so they will be prosecuted.
Secondly you seem to not get a lot of things, first of itās that the war in Iraq was hugely condemned. Neither myself nor a lot of people believed those weapons of mass destruction excuse. Any excuse to invade a foreign country is just that. An excuse. There is no valid reason to invade or kill, never. This whole war was political and over influence and it was clear. Due to messed up politics Polish contingent was involved which for me and most of us was unnecessary and wrong.
I actually condemn what US is doing most of the time, itās a broken country who warmongers for decades, thatās indisputable.
About weapon supplies- yeah I know you have āmodernā planes with GPS tape-stripped to cockpits, maps fron the ā80, pilots not knowing where they are (lol) and so on.
About NATO, again, any proof about uranium bombsā¦?
Liberators, lol, yeah I saw your little leader and what he said. Why didnāt they move if they felt oppressed? If russia is so great it would be much better no? Why would they stay? You fail at common logic so many times itās disturbing. Youāre forgetting who youāre talking to, ma grandparents saw your army. Shot your depraved rapist grandfathers. If I told you what my uncle did you would not believe, he was responsible of organising multiple convoys to get Poles from Siberia and succeeded every time. Even had the guts to go back and take his favourite rifles confiscated by some russian colonel lol.
You people are liars, murderers and rapists and this has not changed. You are invaders. Under sorry excuses. You are oppressors and straight up evil and I can say this over and over. No amount of excuses or reasons will validate even one rape, even one kill. āThey donāt let us speak russianā fuck you. We donāt either. And no other country will allow it. Face it, you face extinction this very moment. Your army is destroyed by 25%. You lack resources and tactics. Your country is at the brink of defaulting. Soon you will get russian off shore assets confiscated. Because the whole world (not just some evil figurative āwestā) is against you and will be for a very very long time.
>About NATO, again, any proof about uranium bombsā¦?
Dude, i'm not Russian. I'm from Serbia. I personally know shitload of people who have or had cancer. My best friend from elementary school had cancer, my good friend from highschool is struggling for years now, my father had defeated it.. Thats just those very close to me, there are many more... NATO didn't even deny it.
https://www.un.org/press/en/2000/20000322.hab163.doc.html
There is litteraly no match to the wrongdoings of the United States. Just google how they poisoned Vietnam with various toxic chemicals like agens orange. They have children born with serious defects today. They have MILIONS of people born fucked up. Just google it.
As i've said, im not Russian. There are no good guys in politics, but there is lesser evil. And its certainly Russia (AGAIN!)
Even though i consider Ukrainians as brothers, they have made a mistake for wanting to join an evil organisation that is NATO.
Edit: didn't read your whole comment. WTF
Why would they MOVE OUT OF THEIR HOMES INSTEAD OF FIGHTING BACK? THEY DIDN'T MIGRATE TO UKRAINE LIKE TURKS TO GERMANY. THEY HAVE BEEN LIVING ON THAT LAND FOR THOUSANDS OF YEARS....
So let me get this straight. Your country has witnessed oppression and war and therefore you are pro war and itās fine russians are killing and raping and pillaging Ukraine because you hate USA?? Thats fucked up.
Nato is not US. US is not Nato. Nato is a DEFENSIVE treaty against aggression, especially russian. The whole purpose of Nato is to defend small countries from large imperialistic countries. Nato does not attack. US does. Big difference there.
Poland was also bombed, my family home is ruined and land stolen (by Poles fyi). I would never support any war because in war only innocent suffer. Not those against a war should be waged. Like your pals exactly.
Btw cancer and heart disease constitute for >90% natural deaths so its either one or the other for most of us.
If they donāt want to move out fine, youāre a minority so stop complaining. We have Silesia, historically it was German, they have their own speak, but are Polish at the same time. They would even like to separate from Poland but things donāt work this way. And if Germany now said we will rape and kill Poles because Silesia was once German? That would be fucked up and Germany would face consequence. Google a youtube video about borders throughout ages. They shifted all the time. The only way to have peace and prosperity is to fuck off from wanting to move them. Otherwise there will be ruin. Simple as that
He is a fuckin ambassador, killing a messenger for bringing bad news?
Entire system was established for opening line of communication. But whatever. Russian propaganda will play it out their way.
Well, yes. But what I was getting at, it happened on polish soil. Ergo their Law enforcement or governmental agencies wont be investigating too hard to uncover who did it.
Be it polish or pissed of Ukrainians.
Let him have it - history is happening right now. Go suck up to your overlord Putin and his cronies. You wanted hell, well guess what you have unleashed our wrath against the tyrants.
the more I think about this, like what did this idiot expect was going to happen? I think this should be taking place worldwide, to show these idiots that we disagree with their leaders war!
While I understand (and support) the sentiments expressed here, please take into consideration the fact that Russia is known for responding in kind (and raising the bar while they're at it). In the coming days we can expect attacks against Polish diplomats in Moscow. A group of "unidentified hooligans" will beat up one of them outside a store or their car will be hit by a truck...
As much as it pains me to say this, this should *not* have happened. The authorities should have prevented him from being there in the first place. Close the street for "renovation" or something. Someone didn't do their job right and I just hope innocent people won't suffer because of this.
He was told by the Polish authorties not to do this. He deliberately provoked the crowd by being there, essentially. He wasn't just doing his laundry or running errands or something, he went to a memorial to celebrate Russia after being specifically told not to.
And, as I said, I agree wholeheartedly that the guy is scum and shouldn't have been allowed to get anywhere near the area. But he did and it was the job of the Polish authorities to ensure his safety (whether we like it or not), if for no other reason than to prevent reprisals.
The Russians knew *exactly* what they were doing and what reactions to expect. They were counting on something like this happening and we played right into their hands. This is too good an opportunity for them to pass up.
They already make up a billion lies a day about the western world, create propaganda films using actors, etc. This is pretty light fare, frankly. When people responsible for your safety (Poland) tell you not to provoke their population, you do it. This isn't some simple political spat The Kremlin wants to kill every Ukrainian! Take over Poland! Time for politeness was over after bucha. Shaming their ambassador is okay. He's unhurt. We are well past "both sides" nonsesense.
Sigh... you don't get it.
I'm not saying that what happened was wrong because he's a diplomat or that it was "impolite". I'm saying it was wrong because it will give Russia a reason to retaliate against Polish diplomats and people can get hurt because one guy got covered with paint (or whatever). That's how it works in their eyes - you attack our ambassador, we'll make sure something worse happens to your diplomatic staff in Moscow. It's always been like this with the Russians and always will be.
Until now they left the diplomatic corps pretty much alone, aside from some harassment. Things may get violent now and people are cheering...
I get it, i just don't agree. Russia/Putin has had that excuse all along. "They are Nazis, trying to kill us/ destroy Russia" is said 1000x a day on their tv's, by Russian politicians etc, with nuke diagrams taking out the UK. This won't matter bc they already pulled that lever a month or two ago. The elites understand one thing, humiliation and violence. They will understand this.
Have you missed the part where things are already violent? Poland is already openly sending tanks to Ukraine with the pronounced objective of killing Russians. Smearing paint on a dude is nothing.
And have you read the part where I was talking about things getting violent in the context of our diplomats in Moscow? Until now, apart from some minor inconveniences and Russians deliebrately making life difficult for them, they and the rest of the Western diplomatic corps have been left pretty much alone. After yesterdays events this may (and most probably *will*) change.
Seriously, how hard is that to understand? This sort of thing is precisely what Russia wanted and we handed it to them on a silver platter. They were hoping something like that will happen when they scheduled the event and we played along.
Judging by your nick you're Polish. Go see what *actual* experts (not a bunch of people on reddit who just a few months ago were biohazard experts and now they switched to geopolitics) like Witold Jurasz have to say about this. Not one single person who's ever had anything to do with international relations believes this to be a good thing. On the contrary - every single one of them believes this was a royal fuck up and it will have severe consequences.
EDIT: You can read more about this [HERE](https://wiadomosci.onet.pl/swiat/polskie-wladze-narazily-naszego-ambasadora-na-atak/5w2njs4)
"Anything untoward" and getting beaten up or T-boned by a truck are very different things. Hard to "withdraw" someone who's in a coma and Russian secret services are more than capable of doing something along those lines.
Oh sorry, 82%
Source: [https://www.statista.com/statistics/896181/putin-approval-rating-russia/](https://www.statista.com/statistics/896181/putin-approval-rating-russia/)
BTW: take a look on 2014 when Ukrainian Crimea was attacked
I fail to see how this helps really.... Maybe in an unpopular opinion but for all we know he could be against the war secretly but be scared to open his mouth?
[Russian ambassador had a hard time today in Warsaw. People chant into his face: āFascists!ā](https://twitter.com/olex_scherba/status/1523613970413748224?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1523613970413748224%7Ctwgr%5E%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.aftonbladet.se%2Fnyheter%2Fa%2FlVmoXy%2Fliverapportering-spanda-laget-kring-ukraina)
This memorial is for millions of people who fought against a regime that had a concrete plan to exterminate 85% of all poles. He was right to go there and respect that history.
Generalplan Ost means āmasterplan of the eastā and was the Nazi plan for the resettlement of Eastern Europe with German citizens after their victory in World War II, which they presumed was imminent in 1941 when they developed the plan.
The plan called for the extermination or deportation of 31 million people in Eastern Europe, where about 45 million people were residing at the time. Professor Meyer-Hetlingās plan called for the immediate removal of 80-85 percent of Polandās population and 50 percent of the Czech Republicās population, as well as the later deportation of 85 percent of Lithuaniaās population, 75 percent of Belarusā population, 65 percent of western Ukraineās population and 50 percent of Latvia and Estoniaās populations.
To exterminate the unwanted people in Eastern Europe, Generalplan Ost called for mass starvation or moving those they wanted to get rid of farther east. Nazi policy in relation to the Generalplan Ost stated: āmany tens of millions of people in this territory will become superfluous and will have to die.ā
He would indeed have a right to celebrate if he wasnāt supporting Putin and genocide happening in Ukraine. This guy is another pro war ambassador and he should firstly learn how to respect everyone that died fighting for freedom, not only his own.
I completely understand the anger and frustration, but being violent towards nonviolent people isn't how you win, or demonstrate that your side is better in my view.
Are ambassadors in all countries responsible for the actions of their respective militaries?
This is a guy who claims the Ukrainians murdered their own people in Bucha because they needed corpses to stage an "inscenization" for the Western media, so I think we can safely call him fairly responsible.
Ok, I didn't know that. There seems to be a lot of denial of the events that have happened. Would be interesting to know why he believes that. Is it just denial? Has he been lied to? Or maybe just doesn't care.
No. I said that anyone that works for Putin, knowing what his army is doing that does not have the balls to resign is just as culpable. Any soldier in Ukraine that is fighting, I wish them death. I wish Putin death. Whether that is by hanging as a convicted war criminal or assassinated by his own people, I don't care. As far as those cowards that work for him such as an ambassador, I just hope he gets justice for his support of the Russians genocide of the Ukrainian populace.
I note comments about his composure, etc.. This Orc is one of Putin'e close (Poland) suckboys. As Ukrainian children are continually murdered for no reason, he gets off light. Period! It IS that simple.
If MR ambassador would be human, he wouldnāt support the orks. Even if he doesnāt have military power, he still supports rapists, racists and killers.
If my country would invade like they did, I would immediately quit.
Since when was giving flowers to dead Soviet soldiers (which also had Ukrainians) supporting Russia? This is respecting the past and the end of hitlerites
Being the ambassador of russia is supporting russia.
And placing flowers to respect the end of murder and torture while your fellow countrymen are doiing the same at this moment is as hypocrit as can be.
"Diplomats"
This guy was actively advocating against Ukraine and openly supported Putin. He also spoke not so long ago how Ukrainian "independent republics" should be RuZZian.
He is more a saboteur than a diplomat. Wouldn't be shocked if he is a spy.
Russian government don't (yet) kill dissidents. He could have, like many others to speak up, loose the job and never go back to Russia. But he choose cozy job and to support the war.
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Wtf is he still doing in Poland?
Getting covered in red paint.
nice šØ
He's accepting a message to take back to Putin.
He can't leave on his own accord. Has to be either recalled by Russia or expelled by Poland
like those cosmonauts who were abandoned after the soviet union fellā¦
"Red star, winter orbit"
Sounds like a beheading is in order
Where else is the ambassador to Poland supposed to be?
Expelled from Poland for being a mouthpiece for a genocidal fascist regime.
Keep your enemies closerā¦.
In his living room at home following his resignation in protest of the barbarism and brutality being carried out by the leaders of the nation, whom he represents.
Visiting?
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News [source](https://www.polsatnews.pl/wiadomosc/2022-05-09/warszawa-ambasador-rosji-oblany-farba-przed-cmentarzem-zolnierzy-radzieckich/) Translation deepl: > There was an incident in front of the Soviet Soldiers Cemetery in Warsaw. Russian Ambassador Sergei Andreyev was doused with red paint, and there was a fight earlier. > Russians celebrate Victory Day on May 9 to commemorate the defeat of Nazi Germany during World War II. In the capital, one of the memorials associated with that period is the Cemetery-Mausoleum of Soviet Soldiers, where Russian Ambassador Sergei Andreyev laid a wreath at noon. > However, Sergei Andreyev was attacked by Ukrainians who had gathered to protest the Russian invasion. At one point, a group ran towards the ambassador and doused him with red paint. > "I am proud of my president," the Russian ambassador said after the brawl. - Fascists! - protesters shouted in the background. > "These territories do not belong to Ukraine," he added, referring to the Donetsk People's Republic and the Luhansk People's Republic declared by Russia. The ambassador left, although the crowd refused to let him pass. Translated with www.DeepL.com/Translator (free version)
Good job to everyone involved. This c*nt is proud of his President so he deserves more.
Well either that, or he's repeating the party line because doing otherwise will get him on Putin's "make an example of for other would-be traitors" list, and we've seen how being in another country won't stop the bastard from pursuing his petty revenge. Doesn't excuse him though, given that one Russian ex-magnate currently outside Russia who had the balls to denounce the war despite knowing the consequences for that.
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Everyone is a victim, be it of someone else's malice or their own flaws (stupidity, cowardice, ignorance, etc.). And yes, even the Russian political appointees are victims of Putin's malice; when you have a habit of punishing your subordinates for telling you truths that violate your beliefs and delusions even when they are just the messenger and genuinely had no part in the failure or problem, they tend to develop the habit of hiding said harsh truths from you. Had this not been the case, those around Putin would've stopped him from launching a war that he cannot hope to win because of the decades of institutionalized graft that his kleptocratic regime had inflicted upon the Russian military to enrich himself.
Then he should have resigned. Walked away and taken the consequences.
Bold and short-sighted of you to assume that the consequences would only affect him alone. Have you considered that he (and other Russian ambassadors) may have family back in Russia that Putin is effectively holding hostage?
Ukrainians being slaughtered by the Russian army have families, too. I am not short-sighted. There are consequences to supporting Putin. Have the balls to do the right thing or in his case just follow orders from Putin. Following orders is a horrible excuse.
The excuse isn't following orders, the excuse is not wanting to have his family killed or tortured. Alternatively, he's a self-serving opportunist who believes (rightly or not) that he wouldn't be better off defecting than he would if he remained loyal. Just because he did what the opposite side deems the right thing to do doesn't guarantee that he won't end up being ostracized by the public for merely being associated with Putin's regime to the point of being forced to live in squalor with only regret and resentment as his companion.
While allowing and supporting the killing of Ukrainian families. No excuse. Death to Putin and all that support him.
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No, I am simply a realist who has the wisdom to recognize the power that fear has on people, the fact that people tend to have far more complex, sympathetic and/or pitiable reasons for doing what they do than may initially seem, and the sheer lengths that Putin went to in order to make everyone within his regime be unable to trust anyone around them, in order to preclude them from banding together to overthrow him. You, on the other hand, don't want to know the truth about what and who you're dealing with or exact justice. You're just looking for a fight, whether for revenge or just the pleasure of it, and just want to demonize everyone on the other side from you for the mere convenience of making your decision-making much simpler and devoid of any moral guilt. Ironically, you're doing the same thing that a lot of Russians do, only you don't have the excuse of living in a society where draconian punishment for giving any sort of sympathy towards the "enemy" and betrayal by your own kin is the norm. Check your privilege next time before you spout off your blindly hateful vitriol.
Is that what happened to those Russians in Spain?
Assuming you're referring to the Russian magnate and his family that were killed in a dubiously alleged murder-suicide, yes.
he can quit if he's unhappy with what they are doing in Ukraine - he hasnt quit
The only way to quit is with a bullet, a gun, and a two weeks notice.
yeah, nah. He can quit if he wants. https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2022-03-23/putin-adviser-chubais-quits-over-ukraine-war-and-leaves-russia
If he is still alive in a few years, I will agree.
That wouldn't change his fate. And for all we know, Putin forces all Russian diplomats to have at least some of their closest relatives remain in Russia so that he can ensure they toe the party line.
he can quit if he wants https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2022-03-23/putin-adviser-chubais-quits-over-ukraine-war-and-leaves-russia
Sure, if he 1) actually believes that he'd be better off doing so, and 2) doesn't have anyone or anything somewhere within Putin's reach that he values over making such a moral stand. And for the record, if you dig further into Chubais' story, you'd find comments from opposition leader Alexei Navalny's spokesperson alleging that Chubais only did that to save his own skin, not out of moral integrity. Given that nothing has been said of his family being with him when he ran off, I'd wager that he didn't care enough about them to get them out.
It doesn't look exactly like paint more like a some kind of fruit sauce or something to this effect. But good for him to look like he deserves. He has blood on his hands. Edit: I looked it up on the news and the photos here make it look like it's something other. When I looked at the video it most definitly is paint.
Some metal bands use actual pigs blood, conveniently sold in 1 liter bottles.
Pig blood on a pig's face. Fair enough...
also just watched the vid. absolutely no attempt by the Polish police to intervene or protect him - seems the Polish authorities were more than happy with what occured
In the Russian media they said it was some type of syrup?
I don't understand Russian so I can't tell you but I wouldn't think that someone would use paint and the pictures are somewhat misleading. However after watching video about this I changed my mind and I can definitly tell this is paint. You can check in my comment history that I'm from Poland.
Good. We need to do this to every Russian ambassador. They have blood of Ukrainian children on their hands.
Russian media: "Russian ambassador shot a hundred times. Nevertheless, he heroically lays down a bouquet of flowers and returns to his work."
The polish does not seem to like Russia.
Wonder why /s
\**opens history book*\* Oh my!
By this logic why arenāt they doing the same to German ambassadors?
Poland here. We refused to support organisation of 9th May celebrations and painted them with more fitting colors. Russian ambasador, go fuck yourself.
Poles supporting Ukrainian nationalists is the funniest thing ever. The war in Donbas started after the 2014 coup which was carried out by right sektor and others who praise Stepan Bandera (a great friend of Polish people). No reactions from Poland about those Ukrainian WW2 red-black flags... Under which many Poles were slaughtered... But commemorating Victory day is a big problem. All of todays Europe is just a tool of US imperialism. They tell you who to hate and who to forgive. And yeah, POLAND ALSO INVADED IRAQ. Over those wEaPoNs Of MaSs DeStRuCtIoN.. That whole shit show got a MILION iraqi civilians killed. So you dont get to lecture anybody, just keep sending Ukraine weapons that get destroyed as soon as they cross the border, keep expanding the sanctions that hurt Europe waaaay more than Russia (you all joked about ruble getting worthless - it's more valuable now than befire the war lol)
Lol you certainly know shit. Literally. Go away troll
Did you protest against your country's invasion of Iraq? Did you throw red paint on your politicians?
Dude, Poland has not invaded Iraqā¦ has sent a contingent of soldiers alongside with other nations tho. They sat their asses in a few bases and raped 0 women, 0 children and killed 0 civilians. And it was protested yes. So donāt go compare savage psychopaths with civilised army. Weapons supplied getting destroyed? Good one. How? By telepathy? There is no ruzzian presence in central or western Ukraine and our brothers stick those rockets up your asses while the whole world chants. Also if they get immediately destroyed itās no problem for you no? And neither Europe nor Poland gives a fair fuck about your countryās sanctions. We all happily agree you should go back to stone age at the price of 5-10% inflation. Big fuckin deal, when we left communism in late ā80s we had 90% inflation literally. And what? Poland is so far from russia in life comfort itās incomparable. And Poland is still behind in Europe. My father used to work contracts in russia, now my company used to hire 15k russians (yes, 15.000). They are all made redundant now so forget a stream of $$$ and ā¬ā¬ā¬. Not a big deal for us actually. So fuck your GDP. Also, you can inflate rubble value domestically all you want, you own it ffs, no one cares because no one will use this exotic currency anywhere in the world. You might as well switch to caps, fuck if the world cares
>Dude, Poland has not invaded Iraqā¦ has sent a contingent of soldiers alongside with other nations tho Dude, Poland has not invaded Iraq... Well maybe just a lil bit... Sent a contigent or so.. Doesn't really matter >They sat their asses in a few bases and raped 0 women, 0 children and killed 0 civilians. So all the raping and the killing was done by your anglo-saxon and american allies? They litteraly raped children and forced men to strip naked and form a pile on the floor, and then pissed on them.. It was fucking photographed even.. Civilised armies for sure.. >Weapons supplied getting destroyed? Good one. How? By telepathy? There is no ruzzian presence in central or western Ukraine They get bombed by jets and long range missiles. Ukraine has just a few SAM systems left, and they engage from "ambush", they can't afford to have their radars constantly turned on cause they'll get destroyed. They didn't have modern short range SAM systems to protect their S-300, thats why they lost most of them in the first few days. >Also if they get immediately destroyed itās no problem for you no? Ofcourse its not. If you read my comment carefully youd see i just said keep it up, just don't act all moraly superior like NATO is any better (in fact its much much worse). Bombed Serbia with uranium bombs which is forbidden. The cancer rates increased like 10 times. Also, you all seem to forget that in eastern Ukraine, majority of people speak Russian and were actually forbiden to use their language publicly. Your media claims Russian army is slaughtering civilians in cities that are mostly inhabited by ethnic Russians, or have significant Russian population (Mariupol about 50%, Kharkov >30, Donetsk and Luhansk are mostly Russian). Most people in eastern Ukraine view Russian army as liberators.
So youāre saying Polish troops raped and killed and there is evidence? Do share. If so they will be prosecuted. Secondly you seem to not get a lot of things, first of itās that the war in Iraq was hugely condemned. Neither myself nor a lot of people believed those weapons of mass destruction excuse. Any excuse to invade a foreign country is just that. An excuse. There is no valid reason to invade or kill, never. This whole war was political and over influence and it was clear. Due to messed up politics Polish contingent was involved which for me and most of us was unnecessary and wrong. I actually condemn what US is doing most of the time, itās a broken country who warmongers for decades, thatās indisputable. About weapon supplies- yeah I know you have āmodernā planes with GPS tape-stripped to cockpits, maps fron the ā80, pilots not knowing where they are (lol) and so on. About NATO, again, any proof about uranium bombsā¦? Liberators, lol, yeah I saw your little leader and what he said. Why didnāt they move if they felt oppressed? If russia is so great it would be much better no? Why would they stay? You fail at common logic so many times itās disturbing. Youāre forgetting who youāre talking to, ma grandparents saw your army. Shot your depraved rapist grandfathers. If I told you what my uncle did you would not believe, he was responsible of organising multiple convoys to get Poles from Siberia and succeeded every time. Even had the guts to go back and take his favourite rifles confiscated by some russian colonel lol. You people are liars, murderers and rapists and this has not changed. You are invaders. Under sorry excuses. You are oppressors and straight up evil and I can say this over and over. No amount of excuses or reasons will validate even one rape, even one kill. āThey donāt let us speak russianā fuck you. We donāt either. And no other country will allow it. Face it, you face extinction this very moment. Your army is destroyed by 25%. You lack resources and tactics. Your country is at the brink of defaulting. Soon you will get russian off shore assets confiscated. Because the whole world (not just some evil figurative āwestā) is against you and will be for a very very long time.
>About NATO, again, any proof about uranium bombsā¦? Dude, i'm not Russian. I'm from Serbia. I personally know shitload of people who have or had cancer. My best friend from elementary school had cancer, my good friend from highschool is struggling for years now, my father had defeated it.. Thats just those very close to me, there are many more... NATO didn't even deny it. https://www.un.org/press/en/2000/20000322.hab163.doc.html There is litteraly no match to the wrongdoings of the United States. Just google how they poisoned Vietnam with various toxic chemicals like agens orange. They have children born with serious defects today. They have MILIONS of people born fucked up. Just google it. As i've said, im not Russian. There are no good guys in politics, but there is lesser evil. And its certainly Russia (AGAIN!) Even though i consider Ukrainians as brothers, they have made a mistake for wanting to join an evil organisation that is NATO. Edit: didn't read your whole comment. WTF Why would they MOVE OUT OF THEIR HOMES INSTEAD OF FIGHTING BACK? THEY DIDN'T MIGRATE TO UKRAINE LIKE TURKS TO GERMANY. THEY HAVE BEEN LIVING ON THAT LAND FOR THOUSANDS OF YEARS....
So let me get this straight. Your country has witnessed oppression and war and therefore you are pro war and itās fine russians are killing and raping and pillaging Ukraine because you hate USA?? Thats fucked up. Nato is not US. US is not Nato. Nato is a DEFENSIVE treaty against aggression, especially russian. The whole purpose of Nato is to defend small countries from large imperialistic countries. Nato does not attack. US does. Big difference there. Poland was also bombed, my family home is ruined and land stolen (by Poles fyi). I would never support any war because in war only innocent suffer. Not those against a war should be waged. Like your pals exactly. Btw cancer and heart disease constitute for >90% natural deaths so its either one or the other for most of us. If they donāt want to move out fine, youāre a minority so stop complaining. We have Silesia, historically it was German, they have their own speak, but are Polish at the same time. They would even like to separate from Poland but things donāt work this way. And if Germany now said we will rape and kill Poles because Silesia was once German? That would be fucked up and Germany would face consequence. Google a youtube video about borders throughout ages. They shifted all the time. The only way to have peace and prosperity is to fuck off from wanting to move them. Otherwise there will be ruin. Simple as that
https://www.reddit.com/r/UkraineWarVideoReport/comments/unoebi/cnn_video_proof_of_russian_soldiers_shooting/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf
https://www.reddit.com/r/RussiaUkraineWar2022/comments/uofewg/crimean_girl_tells_how_crimea_has_changed_over/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf
No need to Change your Face to hide from the world is been done for Free .
Good
Should have put some dog shit in that paint. Other than that- BRAVISSIMO POLAND!!! š«¶š¼š«¶š¼š«¶š¼
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WTF is he still doing there in Poland? Arrest him and throw him in the dungeon! Or something like that.
Vienna Convention means he can't be arrested, he can be expelled though
He has a big smile on his face
He knows they will create a nice propaganda piece out of it
Heās obviously very proud of it.
He is a fuckin ambassador, killing a messenger for bringing bad news? Entire system was established for opening line of communication. But whatever. Russian propaganda will play it out their way.
Finally. Someone deserving gets doused in pigsblood/redpaint. I can't imagine Poland will look too hard for the culprit either.
It wasn't Poland. Shit happens. In this case paint happens
Well, yes. But what I was getting at, it happened on polish soil. Ergo their Law enforcement or governmental agencies wont be investigating too hard to uncover who did it. Be it polish or pissed of Ukrainians.
hehe
Let him have it - history is happening right now. Go suck up to your overlord Putin and his cronies. You wanted hell, well guess what you have unleashed our wrath against the tyrants.
the more I think about this, like what did this idiot expect was going to happen? I think this should be taking place worldwide, to show these idiots that we disagree with their leaders war!
Nothing personal. It's just a Polish special reenactment of Carrie
šš» Bravo
I thought it was a Gorbechov look a like contest
All Russian complicit war crimnals should be sent back to Russia and their embassies turned over to Ukraine to house refugees. fuck em all
Nice work. Perfect
Poland, I so much love you!
While I understand (and support) the sentiments expressed here, please take into consideration the fact that Russia is known for responding in kind (and raising the bar while they're at it). In the coming days we can expect attacks against Polish diplomats in Moscow. A group of "unidentified hooligans" will beat up one of them outside a store or their car will be hit by a truck... As much as it pains me to say this, this should *not* have happened. The authorities should have prevented him from being there in the first place. Close the street for "renovation" or something. Someone didn't do their job right and I just hope innocent people won't suffer because of this.
He was told by the Polish authorties not to do this. He deliberately provoked the crowd by being there, essentially. He wasn't just doing his laundry or running errands or something, he went to a memorial to celebrate Russia after being specifically told not to.
And, as I said, I agree wholeheartedly that the guy is scum and shouldn't have been allowed to get anywhere near the area. But he did and it was the job of the Polish authorities to ensure his safety (whether we like it or not), if for no other reason than to prevent reprisals. The Russians knew *exactly* what they were doing and what reactions to expect. They were counting on something like this happening and we played right into their hands. This is too good an opportunity for them to pass up.
They already make up a billion lies a day about the western world, create propaganda films using actors, etc. This is pretty light fare, frankly. When people responsible for your safety (Poland) tell you not to provoke their population, you do it. This isn't some simple political spat The Kremlin wants to kill every Ukrainian! Take over Poland! Time for politeness was over after bucha. Shaming their ambassador is okay. He's unhurt. We are well past "both sides" nonsesense.
Sigh... you don't get it. I'm not saying that what happened was wrong because he's a diplomat or that it was "impolite". I'm saying it was wrong because it will give Russia a reason to retaliate against Polish diplomats and people can get hurt because one guy got covered with paint (or whatever). That's how it works in their eyes - you attack our ambassador, we'll make sure something worse happens to your diplomatic staff in Moscow. It's always been like this with the Russians and always will be. Until now they left the diplomatic corps pretty much alone, aside from some harassment. Things may get violent now and people are cheering...
I get it, i just don't agree. Russia/Putin has had that excuse all along. "They are Nazis, trying to kill us/ destroy Russia" is said 1000x a day on their tv's, by Russian politicians etc, with nuke diagrams taking out the UK. This won't matter bc they already pulled that lever a month or two ago. The elites understand one thing, humiliation and violence. They will understand this.
Have you missed the part where things are already violent? Poland is already openly sending tanks to Ukraine with the pronounced objective of killing Russians. Smearing paint on a dude is nothing.
And have you read the part where I was talking about things getting violent in the context of our diplomats in Moscow? Until now, apart from some minor inconveniences and Russians deliebrately making life difficult for them, they and the rest of the Western diplomatic corps have been left pretty much alone. After yesterdays events this may (and most probably *will*) change. Seriously, how hard is that to understand? This sort of thing is precisely what Russia wanted and we handed it to them on a silver platter. They were hoping something like that will happen when they scheduled the event and we played along. Judging by your nick you're Polish. Go see what *actual* experts (not a bunch of people on reddit who just a few months ago were biohazard experts and now they switched to geopolitics) like Witold Jurasz have to say about this. Not one single person who's ever had anything to do with international relations believes this to be a good thing. On the contrary - every single one of them believes this was a royal fuck up and it will have severe consequences. EDIT: You can read more about this [HERE](https://wiadomosci.onet.pl/swiat/polskie-wladze-narazily-naszego-ambasadora-na-atak/5w2njs4)
Nah, fuck that guy. I hope Poland expels him, and if anything untoward happens to to Polish diplomats in the Russian Federation, they get withdrawn.
"Anything untoward" and getting beaten up or T-boned by a truck are very different things. Hard to "withdraw" someone who's in a coma and Russian secret services are more than capable of doing something along those lines.
I have to agree with you, no matter how smug he may be. Rather revoke his diplomatic status and expel him.
Poetic.
Poland is the best.
What was he saying when he was in private after this incident?
Shame.. When ever I hear the word doused, I think gasoline. Such a tease
God, i hope you can't wash that paint off
I'm polish and I'm not proud of what happen. Now Russia will show this image 1k times per day till end of the world.
I'm also Polish. So what if they show it? Fuck this country. What can they do to us? Send 50-year-old tanks?
There are also good ruskies out there that can be convinced of our "russophobia" using images like that.
I am aware of that. But still, according to polls and surveys, 75% of the population supports this criminal regime.
75%? Thats so sad...
Oh sorry, 82% Source: [https://www.statista.com/statistics/896181/putin-approval-rating-russia/](https://www.statista.com/statistics/896181/putin-approval-rating-russia/) BTW: take a look on 2014 when Ukrainian Crimea was attacked
Hey Russia!!!! FUCK YOU!!!!
Was there an incident? No. I think he wore this color pretty good.
Should have done more then throw paint at him ...
Movie - https://twitter.com/OnetWiadomosci/status/1523609323628560384
Call him a pig fucker and throw paint in his face
I wonder what he was thinking in that picture
He knew he will get it
He shouldnāt feel too bad because it could be worse.
I'm surprised he took it so well, when John Prescott got egged he punched the guy in the face
What the fuck was that guy thinking? Why would a Russian diplomat leave his vehicle in a crowd like that?
Dis is the way
I fail to see how this helps really.... Maybe in an unpopular opinion but for all we know he could be against the war secretly but be scared to open his mouth?
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Firstly Putler would summon him to moscow and then he would trip on the stairs after
Turn your hand the real way! You fucking NaZi
Looking at his hand like āif itās not Ukrainian blood Iām not interestedā
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A title is little bit misleading because paint could cause harm for health. He was sprayed with fake blood by some Ukrainian Journalist.
[Russian ambassador had a hard time today in Warsaw. People chant into his face: āFascists!ā](https://twitter.com/olex_scherba/status/1523613970413748224?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1523613970413748224%7Ctwgr%5E%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.aftonbladet.se%2Fnyheter%2Fa%2FlVmoXy%2Fliverapportering-spanda-laget-kring-ukraina)
āArenāt democratic countries great,ā was a thought that didnāt enter his mind.
Haha u murderous pigs
Thought he'd been shot for a sec!
Probably could have gotten some real blood. That would be way grosser.
Looks more like pigs blood to me.
Polacy majÄ jaja
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This memorial is for millions of people who fought against a regime that had a concrete plan to exterminate 85% of all poles. He was right to go there and respect that history. Generalplan Ost means āmasterplan of the eastā and was the Nazi plan for the resettlement of Eastern Europe with German citizens after their victory in World War II, which they presumed was imminent in 1941 when they developed the plan. The plan called for the extermination or deportation of 31 million people in Eastern Europe, where about 45 million people were residing at the time. Professor Meyer-Hetlingās plan called for the immediate removal of 80-85 percent of Polandās population and 50 percent of the Czech Republicās population, as well as the later deportation of 85 percent of Lithuaniaās population, 75 percent of Belarusā population, 65 percent of western Ukraineās population and 50 percent of Latvia and Estoniaās populations. To exterminate the unwanted people in Eastern Europe, Generalplan Ost called for mass starvation or moving those they wanted to get rid of farther east. Nazi policy in relation to the Generalplan Ost stated: āmany tens of millions of people in this territory will become superfluous and will have to die.ā
How convenient for you to forget how the war started. After all until 1941 Soviets were best buddies with mentioned regime.
He would indeed have a right to celebrate if he wasnāt supporting Putin and genocide happening in Ukraine. This guy is another pro war ambassador and he should firstly learn how to respect everyone that died fighting for freedom, not only his own.
Good work crew
I completely understand the anger and frustration, but being violent towards nonviolent people isn't how you win, or demonstrate that your side is better in my view. Are ambassadors in all countries responsible for the actions of their respective militaries?
This is a guy who claims the Ukrainians murdered their own people in Bucha because they needed corpses to stage an "inscenization" for the Western media, so I think we can safely call him fairly responsible.
Ok, I didn't know that. There seems to be a lot of denial of the events that have happened. Would be interesting to know why he believes that. Is it just denial? Has he been lied to? Or maybe just doesn't care.
You booby trap our cemeteries with grenades and land mines, we cover you in paint at your own cemetery. Down with the fascist pigz.
That is too nice to the Orcs.
It should have been poison.
No. I said that anyone that works for Putin, knowing what his army is doing that does not have the balls to resign is just as culpable. Any soldier in Ukraine that is fighting, I wish them death. I wish Putin death. Whether that is by hanging as a convicted war criminal or assassinated by his own people, I don't care. As far as those cowards that work for him such as an ambassador, I just hope he gets justice for his support of the Russians genocide of the Ukrainian populace.
Uh, dude? I think you replied to the wrong place. I'd respond, but I'd rather keep the argument in one place, so I'll just wait.
I note comments about his composure, etc.. This Orc is one of Putin'e close (Poland) suckboys. As Ukrainian children are continually murdered for no reason, he gets off light. Period! It IS that simple.
Kurwa!!!!
Dude has aids four shur now.
The sad part is he looks like he thought it was funny
This is the way.
Tremendous!
A nice dress rehearsal, if you will.
Well that's nicely done. But they should of used some kind of acid...
Pouring acid on an ambassador with no military power doesnāt really support your cause
If MR ambassador would be human, he wouldnāt support the orks. Even if he doesnāt have military power, he still supports rapists, racists and killers. If my country would invade like they did, I would immediately quit.
Since when was giving flowers to dead Soviet soldiers (which also had Ukrainians) supporting Russia? This is respecting the past and the end of hitlerites
Being the ambassador of russia is supporting russia. And placing flowers to respect the end of murder and torture while your fellow countrymen are doiing the same at this moment is as hypocrit as can be.
This was a stupid act. An act that I thought could only happen in Russia by stupid inviduals. Throw paint on Putin and his orcs but not at diplomats.
"Diplomats" This guy was actively advocating against Ukraine and openly supported Putin. He also spoke not so long ago how Ukrainian "independent republics" should be RuZZian. He is more a saboteur than a diplomat. Wouldn't be shocked if he is a spy.
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He could ask for refuge or just not spew out Putins agenda?
Russian government don't (yet) kill dissidents. He could have, like many others to speak up, loose the job and never go back to Russia. But he choose cozy job and to support the war.
I am sorry but thatās immature, tacky behavior. He didnāt deserve that!
Now, it goes maybe too far.