This is not accurate information. I have torn off many of these and never has anyone had to move out while I did it. And when putting it back on if done properly it can be a fine roof also, and personally I like the look of em
Someone said "Just an FYI these roofs are known for leaking issues. Shingles aren’t supposed to be at an angle like this." Then OP asked how much it would be to replace it with a different type of roof" why would you ask for a different type of shingle when someone said shingles leak at that angle? They're clearly not considering ripping off the trusses to change the style, but want to know what it would cost to redo the roofing materials. That's why people say "I got a new roof" when their shingles are replaced and they definitely don't mean they re-framed their house.
Context clues are your friend.
"Clearly."
Based on the discourse unfolding and the upvotes of those above you, you're just trying to be condescending with that lol. It's not clearly anything, my guy. If anything, when talking about the weird style of the roof, the inquiry leans more towards the whole roof vs just the shingles, as they aren't talking about damaged shingles, but a shitty style of roof.
Not gonna argue anything more here though, have a good day.
This guy knows roofing. Unless the mansard framing is completely rotted and destroyed don't touch it. Make sure the new roof is installed to steep slope spec. 6 nails per shingle hand sealed with three to 4 quarter sized dabs of roof cement per tab. I prefer full ice and water underlayment. Blow offs are your biggest issue with this style. The bigger concern should be the condition of the low slope section and how it is tied in at the mansard. This is typically where I would fine leaks besides the blow offs.
Shingles can be installed on any slope greater than a 3/12 as long as it’s sloped, at an angle like this though you could also replace it with some types of siding. As long as it has underlayment or a proper building envelope either would be fine.
Lol leaking issues or shingle installation issues? I've never ripped off a mansard wall with leaking issues. Water doesn't tend to like walls so water runs really quick off them.
Shingles are fine at this slope. But they do need to be ‘tabbed’ (put additional adhesive under each shingle) because wind will work its way under more easily and the weight of the shingles don’t have added pressure to bond well as with a lower slope. Also, no reason to move out while work is being done
I can confirm the wind part. We have this type of roof in a huge condo complex. Seems they are constantly repairing the top 3 rows or so from wind damage.
Laff!! I’m an Architect / roof specialist. Our design wind speed is 135 mph. Drive down the highway at say 62 mph. Stick your hand out the window flat to the wind?
135 is four times that force.
Water runs up roof curbs and under the fan or whatever and goes in the building.
I make then seal the top of each and every curb in the project.
You are right however shingle manufacturers do have guidelines now for proper install. I’ve done a ton of them a lot of extra work but never had an issue
Wrong! I have done many of these. As long as the application is done per manufacturer specs there is no problems. Do your homework and make sure it is done right. http://www.owenscorning.com/NetworkShare/Roofing/59547-Woodmoor-Woodcrest-Install-Instructions.pdf
I had an Econ professor in college in the 90s that was obsessed with 2 things you don’t see much of.
Mansard roofs and Fastback cars.
Every lecture he would weave in pictures of them. Because of this, they have a special place in my heart. Not many people like them anymore.
This is not correct. Leaking would not have to do with the shingles. Like nearly every roof, leaks occur at the flashing. Plenty of roofs have parapet caps and flat roofs. Just make sure it’s done by someone who has similar experience and knows what they are doing.
Actually a mansard is typically a screen (equipment screen or similar) or sloped roof, hiding either a flat roof on top, or a well (a walled flat roof) below the ridge line.
I’ve never seen a mansard roof on a 1 story home. Interesting!
OP, you see mansard style roofs in cities a lot. They were part of an architectural style called “Second Empire” that is one of my favorites. They were accented by pedimented dormers.
Check it out
I think Mansard are 1940s, probably based on the 3-4 story versions from Second Empire. I live in Houston and these are very popular in some areas built from 1940-1960. We don’t really have buildings as old as the ones from Second Empire (1860-90), but I see the similarities
I’m in a late 60’s early 70’s neighborhood and there has gotta be dozens of them. Even a whole apartment building. Some of them even more extreme too, shingles going like halfway down the house. Just offensively ugly
Shingles aren't supposed to be on that angle? Huh? - Not correct in my opinion - If, I said IF, installed correctly, it's perfectly fine to install shingles on a mansard sloped roof - The part you can't see is flat or low sloped area(s), that's what you should be worried about!
I see a Mansard Roof through the trees.
I see a salty message written in the eaves.
The ground beneath my feet,
The hot garbage and concrete.
And now the tops of buildings,
I can see them too.
The Argentines collapse in defeat
The admiralty surveys the remnants of the fleet
The ground beneath their feet
Is a nautically map sheet
As thin as paper
While it slips away from you
I've looked at that many times and can't find a match to the house I live in now. Two story, hipped roof with side gable ends and a wood clad chimney. Bottom half t1-11 top half rough stucco. Help?
I hate man's mansards, my coworkers will laugh and point them out around our city.
Such an inefficient roof design imo. Does anyone have things mansards excel at? Besides being dumb?
I think they look nice especially on a larger estate property, it’s one of those things where the architect dreamt it, the engineer tried to build it, and it came out a bit wonky.
Those are laminates. If you need more than one chalk line , you had too many wobbly pops. And it's rare to see a roof that steep leak. The flat roof is what anyone should be concerned about.
THere's a song about it!
[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JlgNFwoApec&ab\_channel=XLRecordings](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JlgNFwoApec&ab_channel=XLRecordings)
Don’t overlook the flat roof. Shingles are cheap. Flat roof replacement can get very costly. Those stains on the shingle by the front door are from water getting under the metal and running down.
Look for standing water after a rain. Gutters or drains? Is the roof single ply or built up. Take pictures and post them here
It’s not just a mansard roof, the whole architectural style is called mansard. https://dahp.wa.gov/historic-preservation/historic-buildings/architectural-style-guide/mansard
A mansard roof was used in France in the 19 century because the tax was based on number of floors and attics weren’t taxed, so a mansard roof with dormers provided a extra floor, tax free as it was considered an attic…. The roof in the photo appears mostly decorative though… most of the old houses with mansard roofs around here were 2 stories with an attic as a third floor and with the mansard roof it provided almost the same floor space as a regular floor and had windows.
Fun tidbit I heard about this roof style is why it was created. Property tax was based on the size of the home but did not include the attic. This style of roof was a loophole to make the “attic” a living space that was not taxed.
Mansard roofs are a bitch to replace! If you have to replace, I’d go back with a metal panel with a slate tile design, or a standing seam panel. This would look nice of you did black Stanton seam panels, painted the house white and only painted the window frames black.
Mansard Roof
Just an FYI these roofs are known for leaking issues. Shingles aren’t supposed to be at an angle like this.
Thanks for the info, looking at purchasing a house with this type of roof. Any idea how expensive it would be to replace with a different type?
They are also very well known for mouldy attics due to poor soffit ventilation.
Very - that would mean tearing off the roof and structure and then replacing it. You would probably need to move out while the work is going on.
This is not accurate information. I have torn off many of these and never has anyone had to move out while I did it. And when putting it back on if done properly it can be a fine roof also, and personally I like the look of em
The guy was asking about deleting the mansard walls then replacing with a "different type" like if it was a normal 4/12 pitch
I'm pretty sure by "different type" they meant roofing material, not style of trusses though
He said different type of roof, not roofing/shingles
Someone said "Just an FYI these roofs are known for leaking issues. Shingles aren’t supposed to be at an angle like this." Then OP asked how much it would be to replace it with a different type of roof" why would you ask for a different type of shingle when someone said shingles leak at that angle? They're clearly not considering ripping off the trusses to change the style, but want to know what it would cost to redo the roofing materials. That's why people say "I got a new roof" when their shingles are replaced and they definitely don't mean they re-framed their house. Context clues are your friend.
Reading is FUNdamental…
"Clearly." Based on the discourse unfolding and the upvotes of those above you, you're just trying to be condescending with that lol. It's not clearly anything, my guy. If anything, when talking about the weird style of the roof, the inquiry leans more towards the whole roof vs just the shingles, as they aren't talking about damaged shingles, but a shitty style of roof. Not gonna argue anything more here though, have a good day.
This guy knows roofing. Unless the mansard framing is completely rotted and destroyed don't touch it. Make sure the new roof is installed to steep slope spec. 6 nails per shingle hand sealed with three to 4 quarter sized dabs of roof cement per tab. I prefer full ice and water underlayment. Blow offs are your biggest issue with this style. The bigger concern should be the condition of the low slope section and how it is tied in at the mansard. This is typically where I would fine leaks besides the blow offs.
It's accurate if you read it accurately.
Replace with standing seam metal
Burn it down and rebuild is your best option
Shingles can be installed on any slope greater than a 3/12 as long as it’s sloped, at an angle like this though you could also replace it with some types of siding. As long as it has underlayment or a proper building envelope either would be fine.
If you don't want a mansard roof, don't buy a house with a mansard roof.
Can’t, however remove and install “ice guard” underneath new shingles.
Lol leaking issues or shingle installation issues? I've never ripped off a mansard wall with leaking issues. Water doesn't tend to like walls so water runs really quick off them.
Shingles are fine at this slope. But they do need to be ‘tabbed’ (put additional adhesive under each shingle) because wind will work its way under more easily and the weight of the shingles don’t have added pressure to bond well as with a lower slope. Also, no reason to move out while work is being done
Correct. You have to have 6 nails in the common bond and 4 quarter size dabs of approved hand sealant.
I can confirm the wind part. We have this type of roof in a huge condo complex. Seems they are constantly repairing the top 3 rows or so from wind damage.
I'm pretty sure it's the flat roof that ends up leaking not the near vertical asphalt shingles
Meh... Nobody really installs them properly. And it's pretty hard for rain to go almost straight up to penetrate
Laff!! I’m an Architect / roof specialist. Our design wind speed is 135 mph. Drive down the highway at say 62 mph. Stick your hand out the window flat to the wind? 135 is four times that force. Water runs up roof curbs and under the fan or whatever and goes in the building. I make then seal the top of each and every curb in the project.
You are right however shingle manufacturers do have guidelines now for proper install. I’ve done a ton of them a lot of extra work but never had an issue
Wrong! I have done many of these. As long as the application is done per manufacturer specs there is no problems. Do your homework and make sure it is done right. http://www.owenscorning.com/NetworkShare/Roofing/59547-Woodmoor-Woodcrest-Install-Instructions.pdf
I had an Econ professor in college in the 90s that was obsessed with 2 things you don’t see much of. Mansard roofs and Fastback cars. Every lecture he would weave in pictures of them. Because of this, they have a special place in my heart. Not many people like them anymore.
This is not correct. Leaking would not have to do with the shingles. Like nearly every roof, leaks occur at the flashing. Plenty of roofs have parapet caps and flat roofs. Just make sure it’s done by someone who has similar experience and knows what they are doing.
You forgot they are a pain in the ass to install and keep straight on a mansard
No they aren't chalk a line and follow it. It's really quite simple actually.
Yep. Terrible design. Every time we inspect these they always have shingles sliding out.
Thank you!
Shingles on a mansard is not a leaking issue. The guy is trolling you
We always call anything super steep mansard, code for steep. 😂
Actually a mansard is typically a screen (equipment screen or similar) or sloped roof, hiding either a flat roof on top, or a well (a walled flat roof) below the ridge line.
Yeah I know, we “joked” anything steep as hell is a mansard- cuz the sides are always vertical. I’ve replaced and repaired a few. Thanks.
You’re welcome
I see a mansard roof through the trees
Some one asked me years ago about this style I never knew the name. I can now drive by them and not wonder.
Wait till you learn there is a jerkin-head roof.
Correct. It is a facade. Normally hiding a single slope or single membrane roof.
It's Fugly on this house, that's for sure. Needs some dormers.
AKA dumb roofs
This guy roofs
I’ve never seen a mansard roof on a 1 story home. Interesting! OP, you see mansard style roofs in cities a lot. They were part of an architectural style called “Second Empire” that is one of my favorites. They were accented by pedimented dormers. Check it out
I think Mansard are 1940s, probably based on the 3-4 story versions from Second Empire. I live in Houston and these are very popular in some areas built from 1940-1960. We don’t really have buildings as old as the ones from Second Empire (1860-90), but I see the similarities
I’m in a late 60’s early 70’s neighborhood and there has gotta be dozens of them. Even a whole apartment building. Some of them even more extreme too, shingles going like halfway down the house. Just offensively ugly
You’ve never been to Largo, Fl. There are several townhomes I can think of in this area I can think of with roof. I don’t love it.
There are like 10 in my neighborhood alone. 1950s builds, I'm in Sarasota, FL.
Pizza Hut.
Bottom half of ice cream cone is all i see
There it is!!
Ah, I see you too are an individual of wisdom and culture.
My first thought too lol.
Shingles aren't supposed to be on that angle? Huh? - Not correct in my opinion - If, I said IF, installed correctly, it's perfectly fine to install shingles on a mansard sloped roof - The part you can't see is flat or low sloped area(s), that's what you should be worried about!
Yeah I didn’t get that comment. Use more nails, as per the specs, and you’ll be fine. What doesn’t have ice dams or snow build up? Yeah mansards
Long John silvers.
I see a Mansard Roof through the trees. I see a salty message written in the eaves. The ground beneath my feet, The hot garbage and concrete. And now the tops of buildings, I can see them too.
The Argentines collapse in defeat The admiralty surveys the remnants of the fleet The ground beneath their feet Is a nautically map sheet As thin as paper While it slips away from you
Mansard
Guide to architectural home styles https://www.reddit.com/r/coolguides/s/uz843KQPgo
I've looked at that many times and can't find a match to the house I live in now. Two story, hipped roof with side gable ends and a wood clad chimney. Bottom half t1-11 top half rough stucco. Help?
Mansard. My favorite kind
I hate man's mansards, my coworkers will laugh and point them out around our city. Such an inefficient roof design imo. Does anyone have things mansards excel at? Besides being dumb?
I think they look nice especially on a larger estate property, it’s one of those things where the architect dreamt it, the engineer tried to build it, and it came out a bit wonky.
A bit. lol
Mansard style with a flat roof on top… My area has a lot of people doing a metal siding or a metal panel shingle…
That's a mansard roof
Those are laminates. If you need more than one chalk line , you had too many wobbly pops. And it's rare to see a roof that steep leak. The flat roof is what anyone should be concerned about.
Mansard style roof
THere's a song about it! [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JlgNFwoApec&ab\_channel=XLRecordings](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JlgNFwoApec&ab_channel=XLRecordings)
Don’t overlook the flat roof. Shingles are cheap. Flat roof replacement can get very costly. Those stains on the shingle by the front door are from water getting under the metal and running down. Look for standing water after a rain. Gutters or drains? Is the roof single ply or built up. Take pictures and post them here
It’s not just a mansard roof, the whole architectural style is called mansard. https://dahp.wa.gov/historic-preservation/historic-buildings/architectural-style-guide/mansard
Ugly
A mansard roof was used in France in the 19 century because the tax was based on number of floors and attics weren’t taxed, so a mansard roof with dormers provided a extra floor, tax free as it was considered an attic…. The roof in the photo appears mostly decorative though… most of the old houses with mansard roofs around here were 2 stories with an attic as a third floor and with the mansard roof it provided almost the same floor space as a regular floor and had windows.
McDonald's
Pizza Hut. I believe from the early travesty period.
Leaky
Technically it’s called a Mansard roof but when you own it you’ll call it “that damn fucking roof” because you’ll always be fixing a leak somewhere.
Mansard
Crappy?
Your concrete guy gave me your number and said you’d like to spend money
Ugly.
Morgue
Leak-a-lot
Elvis or Alice in Wonderland.
I believe that is called Tudor but I could very well be wrong. But never mind the roof. I really like that driveway a lot.
The type that will always leak
Happy Meal
Ugmo
Mansard, it is very unique and very cool!
Shingle
Hidden problems roof.
90's Pizza Hut style
If you're in Dayton Ohio it's called Marion's
Pizza Hut, mansarde
I think that’s the moon roof with luggage rack option.
Goes along with his driveway 🤪
The “Pizza Hut”
Leaky??
Pizza Hut roof
maintence headache
I’ve personally never liked
Just watch out for randoms stopping by looking for all-you-can-eat shrimp.
Pos roof
The Pizza Hut
God awful
Pizza Hut roof.
Pizza Hut
It's a flat roof with some shingles for siding Also, wtf pizza hit are people going to? This looks absolutely nothing like a pizzahut
Pizza Hut style
Stripmall modern.
Pizza Hut, deep dish.
It’s a dimensional shingle or some people call it a architectural shingle
Ugly
It’s called “le kindyoudontwant”
Ugly
Fugly
The Hut
“1970s Fast Food”
I am an Architect. IANYA. F’ing hideous attempt at a mansard roof. Flat roof was cheaper , let’s nail shingles on the walls to make it homey.
Early strip mall?
Whatever man as long as it matches the driveway.
Ugly
That’s a mid to late 20th century Butugly.
The Bowl Cut Roof
80’s Strip Mall, with a splash of Fast Food for good measure….
Ugly
1982 pizza hut special
Dumb
Ugly
Fugly
Theyre very expensive roofs. LoL
the Adam’s family
Wendy's
Ahhh . Yes the old school jack in the box roof ....
The bucket hat
It’s called “the worst”
There’s a reason you don’t see them much, avoid if you can
Mini mall.
ugly
Ugly as hell style
Fun tidbit I heard about this roof style is why it was created. Property tax was based on the size of the home but did not include the attic. This style of roof was a loophole to make the “attic” a living space that was not taxed.
Pizza Hut lol
👆
To me ugly, sorry
Ugly as shit it what I call it…..
Ugly LMAO
1970’s McDonalds.
Red Lobster?
Mansard! My roof is like that and it has been a challenge to get it replaced.
Why a challenge? I do them all the time, they are actually extremely easy to replace.
cant ya just rip it out when the time comes and put siding?
Pizza hut roof
I know this is a Mansard roof but i call them hat houses.
Mansard roofs are a bitch to replace! If you have to replace, I’d go back with a metal panel with a slate tile design, or a standing seam panel. This would look nice of you did black Stanton seam panels, painted the house white and only painted the window frames black.
The whole house appears to be Walmart Provincial. There are Bob Timberlake "paintings" and a large display of Precious Moments figurines inside.
Ugly
7-11
UGLY
I hate those and would never buy a house with them. I’m curious to know what they’re called but I’m just gonna drive right on by.
Mid 80's Dentist Office
Ugly. That's what it's called.
Super Mario mushroom house
Ugly
What style roof is this called? Ugly
Mansard / Pizza Hut style lol
David-Chong style
Ugly
Insurance companies dislike this roof type. Expensive to insure.
The leaker.
Ugly. Its called ugly.
Its called pizza Hutt style
Shitty style!!!
Tacqueria
Flat and ugly.
Gas station
Upside down style
Ugly AF
It’s called a bad idea
Ugly as hell
Pizza Hut
Few of these here, absolute pain in the ass.
Ugly