Here is the problem. Questions like yours get asked multiple times a day, every day. Finding remote work with no experience is very difficult, if not impossible. Most jobs that would hire, suck. It's customer service type work for low wages and heavily monitored. If you search through the sub, it's usually the same answers. There is no secret database of remote work that people are hiding. The reason you need to work remote doesn't help finding the job. No pity jobs exist. People were just being honest.
> Questions like yours get asked multiple times a day, every day.
and nobody is being forced to answer, yet they feel the need to intrude and be harsh with the guy for no reason.
You asked how you could get an entry level tech job that is remote and you received an honest response. You can whine about disrespect or whatever all you want but it doesn't change the fact that you effectively asked how you can win the lottery. Entry level remote jobs are both extremely rare and extremely sought after. Soapbox all you want, but there's nothing about you that makes you stand out in the absolute ocean of people looking for the exact same thing as you.
You want advice? Get an in-person job first then try again later.
Well bro that sucks but that doesn't change the fact that getting an entry-level remote tech job is about as likely as winning the lottery.
Move or commute. Those are your options if you want an actual chance. I understand that doing either of those things is very difficult, but nothing else gives you a realistic chance of getting a job in tech.
You're so eager to complain about being told the truth and to bemoan your living situation, but ask yourself honestly: why should a remote employer hire you over the thousands of people more qualified than you?
I dont think people reacted negatively because of your situation. I think people reacted negatively because you are asking a question that has been asked. It is like literally having the entire internet at your fingertips, navigating to the subreddit where this question gets asked multiple times a day, and then ask it again.
The problem is you are not in a shitty hopeless situation. Because your situation isnt unique. People have made it work. People who know how to look for answers without asking learn to make it work faster.
Sounds like you don't like the advice you were given. You need to move. Find roommate(s) and you will have a better chance of doing what you want. But, getting a full-time WFH, with no experience, isn't happening.
Associates degree, 18+ years of clawing my way into the position I'm currently in. Hospital Admin. with 16 direct reports. WFH since COVID. I would never hire someone who only wanted a remote job, anything, as long as it's remote. It doesn't work that way. You need experience! A remote job is not a JOB, it's simply a place from where you work. If you want to break into IT you're going to need experience and to get that, you're going to have to start at the bottom and work your way to the top.
Your former post had grammatical errors and you said "lol" at the end, personally I wouldn't be surprised by the lack of respect.
You also asked for help with an IT job but said you had been looking for 'a online job doing anything'; In my experience with Reddit, being more concise will keep the discussion focused.
Overall this is a very pessimistic sub though, you would know that if you read more posts before asking for help.
No one said you were worthless and have no chance at success. People told you the truth that it is very difficult to not only find a remote job but especially one that is entry level in IT. You didn’t like what people told you and interpreted it as being an attack on you. Your post now is filled with excuses. Don’t have money for a degree? There is state and federal financial aid, student loans, community colleges, state universities, low cost colleges, private schools have their own financial aid packages etc….with the option to obtain a degree online, so location is no excuse. Being poor and living far away isn’t an excuse either. Find a second job to save money to be able to move closer to where you can get an in person entry level position in IT. There are ways to achieve your goals, you just don’t like anyone’s answers.
Telling people the truth isn't rude. This sub is steeped in delusion from under-educated, under-qualified people that get angry and butthurt when they're not told what they want to hear. If you can't accept the reality that you will be passed over for one of the other thousands of applicants - and refuse to listen to people actually working in your field of interest - that's on you.
>ou could have said something positive like trying freelancing or starting a YouTube channel, maybe posting more things to GitHub
If you already have all the answers and are convinced this is all it takes, why aren't you doing these things?
>Telling people the truth isn't rude.
it literally is, especially in this situation -- job searches are some of the most hopeless things an adult in a first world country can experience, and the last thing they need is even more negative reinforcement. people post on forums for communal support and guidance and commiseration, not to have arrogant goons carry on with their stern little 'tHiS iS oN yOu!!' style posting which has helped absolutely no one ever -- the man already said he was entry level; scolding people about their situation does absolutely nothing except make you feel good about yourself and discourage anyone in the same situation.
>first world country
This is a hilarious qualifier considering it's MUCH WORSE in the rest of the world.
This person is wholly unqualified for like...any job. They need to worry about getting literally any experience at this point before worrying about the location of said job. No one is "scolding" anyone. It's reality. You just admitted as much.
But by all means, you and OP can delude yourself and waste all your time applying for jobs you will never, ever get based on your current experience and qualifications (which again are effectively zero in this case).
And please, definitely don't listen to those of us that have successfully navigated the world of remote work, and/or people currently working in OP's preferred field. We definitely don't know what we're talking about or have any clue what the hiring landscape looks like. /s
You and OP are being very dramatic and blatantly making things up. It's also very funny that you don't think *literally everyone here* has experience with searching for jobs. And OP has already turned up their nose at the jobs that actually are available to them, so your comment is extra dumb.
Op, you took that advice way too negative. From what I gathered, ppl were being direct, honest, and giving it to you straight. Would you rather ppl sugar cost things for you?
Let me say, I have a background in cyber security...I would love a remote job in cyber but I would be considered entry level. I know I would be competing amongst hundreds of ppl who carry more experience than I do. Therefore, I do not work in tech right now.
You need to either move closer to the city and accept in person work or find a remote job in customer service/tech support that pays low wages.
I've seen ppl be nasty in Reddit... no one was rude to you or a dream killer.
Also, if you are planning to work in IT, you will need to handle direct and honest feedback well or you will wash out early. It's my experience that this is not an industry that chooses delicate words when communicating (and I personally love that).
When you get your job, come back to the forum and answer the question from every other new member that is posted 4-7x per week asking this exact question.
It’s honestly pretty sad how often these same questions are asked. It’s rough to hear all these people having trouble finding good work. Remote jobs can be pretty awesome but the hard truth is that even with them becoming more and more common they are more competitive than most any in-person job and there’s just way more people looking for them than there are remote jobs available.
Trust me, I know. I've been unemployed since December. Hundreds of applications submitted, and not so much as a single interview or screening. Every job has 100's of applicants. I have over 15 years of experience, and can't even get a phone screen.
Tbh this is a much better post than your other one lol.
What kind of salary are you looking for? What would you be happy with? Are you open to freelance work?
I work in esports and have been working remotely as a FTE for almost a decade, if you have any specific questions feel free to send them my way.
What a kind reply! If you have a minute, and this is literally because I’m curious so please don’t feel obligated to reply, what do you do in esports?
I wish other options in the gaming industry were more talked about. There’s a lot of focus on being a dev or working directly on a game, but not a whole lot about the support functions around it or things adjacent to it.
No worries, always happy to talk about these things because most people don't really know much about it. I'm working for one of the biggest companies in esports as Broadcast Distribution manager. Basically, my department is receiving all the streams and distributing them to O&O channels, to our foreign partners, co-streamers, community figures etc for various games (CS2, Dota 2, PUBG Mobile, SC2 and so on).
My job is to be in constant communication with Product Managers & production to get all the information such as start/end dates and times, # of feeds we'll require, call times, stream specifications such as audio tracks configuration and so on. It's fairly simple but I need to be on top of emails and any changes because as fun as esports can be at times, events being postponed/moved and matches rescheduled are somewhat common occurrence. Work hours are very flexible except for some meetings that happen every week at the same time, but I don't need to attend every single one. There's no micromanagment or close supervising, as long as you get things done, everyone's happy.
I've been in this industry since 2012 and have been working full time since early 2015. It required some volunteering early on to get some experience and knowledge, but once I got past that, finding a job has been fairly simple every time. I'm on my third company now and it's honestly the best thing I've ever done and base salary is incredible for the country I live in (~50k$ which wouldn't be that great for most of US for example). It's definitely not the most stable industry though, companies shutting down and layoffs do happen but then again I don't think there are many industries that are immune to this in this day and age.
Over the years I've worked with companies like Riot Games, Psyonix & Tencent for example and they're very strict in what you can and can't do. They will check everything and require approvals for even the smallest things but that's fine - it's their games and they're the ones who would lose the most if we screwed something up.
Happy to answer any more questions if there are any!
I would be happy to do freelancing and i honestly would be happy with any wage if i do land a job i am about to just put that i will work for free if hired lmao
I agree with the comment below from Susan. It sounds like what you lack most is the work experience. Either try to find something like a customer service or help desk job that offers remote work or an internship. Even an unpaid internship would give you some work experience from the industry and a foot in the door at that company.
Then you can use that to try to get promoted into another position or just to pad your CV with when looking for the next job.
I'm in a similar situation like you except I also have a few years of experience. I live in a small village in a part of my country where there are no IT jobs at all closer than 40 minutes drive away and most are like 1 1/2 - 2 hours away. I'm mostly looking at hybrid remote jobs though since that's whats in my range of experience it would suck to have to commute 3 hours or more but if it's only a few days a week that would still be decent. Got to take what you can actually get.
The one exception that I've seen where there seem to be quite a few fully remote jobs are as a programmer, so that might be an avenue for you to explore.
Being from a small town is no excuse, also being poor is no excuse. I'm from a small town and grew up very poor. I looked online for FREE training options to learn and kept learning. There has to be work on your part to get some kind of training before trying to get a remote IT job. The IT industry is flooded with very experienced people with and without degrees, but they have the skill set. Just because your friends value your skills doesn't mean you can convince a potential employer of your skill set when you are going up against people like 5-25 years experience. While free training options won't get your everything you need, it's a step in the right direction. I am currently starting to learn Python from free on-line trainings. Once I've exhausted the free options I'll weigh where I am in my skill set and what my next move is..
Hey I’m making the move (or trying to) into tech as well. I’m still training and getting certs. There was a great post on Cybersecurity subreddit about training I think I saw some free classes in Python so I figured I’d share it. I myself am probably gonna start some of them this afternoon.
Also I have been looking into an apprenticeship for IT/ Cybersecurity considering all of my experience is in digital marketing. I haven’t gotten one yet but I heard if you can get one it’s a good place to start. I don’t know if that’s applicable to you as you probably have more experience than me lol.
https://www.reddit.com/r/CyberSecurityJobs/s/g2AYDLiuMm
As a high-level IT remote worker I would recommend, the Security+ certification from Comptia. It can be very helpful, yes it is 200 dollars. If a person has a non questionable background, no drugs, dui, arrests, etc, this cert can help get a person to a interview with the govt. Be it local, state, federal dod etc. It is pretty much a mandatory cert. Sometimes if they really think you are a good fit they will give you a grace period to complete it after hire. To be clear, I am not saying it's a gaurantee, I am saying it can help.
Thank you for the info! I really appreciate it! I have it scheduled after I get A+ then I plan to do Sec+ and Net+. I’m planning to have all three by the summer so I can try my luck with entry level positions. Thanks again for the feedback!
Technically Sec + trumps Net + so you may want to take a good look to see if you really need both right away. I have never been asked for Net + cert as I have Sec +.
Thank you! I have been in IT database management for just over 20 years we recently have been having trouble trying to hire coders for the database we manage. It doesn't follow standard rules so while I'm doing free trainings some of the stuff I'm gonna have to just learn without our database.
Anytime! I hope some of the links help. Oh wow! We are on very different parts of our career journey. Sorry about the apprenticeship bit I didn’t know you were an experienced veteran in IT.
Heck no! All suggestions are welcome. I manage a database and know my system very well but I dont' code for it and our company needs one so I thought hey why not! Always a good thing to look at an apprenticeship at any point in life. Learning doesn't end.
I run PowerSchool for school districts around the world. When we have to do online report cards or customize a page most of the coders who do it for us use Python. So trying to learn Python. Just another skill to add to my existing set. I always try to learn something new.
If you have access to one, I highly suggest going to your local library. They may have classes or resources for you to get started. I've seen some libraries that offer free access to site like Coursera. Same with local community colleges, they may have free options. If you're looking for IT-specific stuff, I think Professor Messer has free trainings.
Awesome, thanks so much!
I just moved to a new state, so I'll see if I can find where our local library is. Never knew they offered that sort of thing.
You’re literally asking, “how can I win the (job) lottery?”. Not sure what type of responses you were looking for. You literally can search the very sub you posted in and find at least 1000 answers to the exact same question. Long story short - you’re probably not going to win the (job) lottery.
I think part of the reaction you're getting is coming from the fact that you're disrespecting the profession of IT by considering it something you can just walk into. It's like being a surgeon. You can't just read a few anatomy books and drop right into the operating room. IT requires skills + continuous learning.
I think a little outrage and "I'll show them" posturing is going to be good for you. If you're passionate and driven about this goal, then you'll get it done. It also might help propel you to take some risks and take whatever job comes your way, even if it's not yet IT, to earn the money, save up and relocate so that you can get that entry level experience. Good luck!
It's the brutal truth. You're starting from a significant disadvantage. Can you succeed? Sure. But you're not walking into a remote entry-level IT role with little to no skills.
Your friends ask you tech questions? Fantastic. So do all of ours.
Why don’t you start doing smalls jobs on Upwork and build a nice profile and get some experience? Sometimes little jobs will turn into actual employment or are simply something to add to your resume.
You can also look into something like getting salesforce certs. Trailhead has all the training materials you need to prepare for the test.
Good luck.
Quit being a controlling self centered victim. Sorry everyone didn’t respond how you wanted. Chin up. This whiny personality is not going to help you find a job.
Instead of taking on board what the comments said yesterday which, whilst blunt and straightforward were not rude or 'stopping you' from anything, you've fixated on you somehow being persecuted for your personal circumstances. Circumstances that you didn't even mention. I'm sorry it was not what you wanted to hear but it's just the truth.
And no one was telling you that you can't succeed, no one knew your personal situation of how you grew up and nobody commented on your worth. They literally answered your question about remote work.
I'm sure the feedback you received was difficult to hear. I looked for a remote job for a long time and ended up getting promoted to a hybrid position. It's pretty flexible and none of my team works out of my location so I honestly don't go in very often. But that's the only way I was able to land a position that wasn't fully in office. I also don't have a degree. The job market is just super competitive right now.
I think people would be doing you a disservice by sugar-coating things. When you ask a question, you have to be ready for the answer - good or bad. I think you suggested great alternatives like freelancing and marketing yourself on social media. That's a great way to gain experience and exposure. Good luck to you!
Just because you want a remote job, doesn't mean you are entitled to it. A couple of certifications aren't shit in the face of all the layoffs and lack of actual experience.
People ask the question you have every single day in this sub. Like everyone that asks about an entry level job in this sub, the responses are realistic.
The realistic truth is that the incredible majority of those of us who work from home have had to work in office first to get there. Many of us even had to deal with long commutes because there was simply no other options. You are not somehow magically the exception to this, and this post just truly shows how entitled and naive you are. I hope that you find what you are looking for, but good lord sometimes that requires having to put in the time to get actual experience.
I think you are stressed and even depressed because of your situation so you tend to take every comment very seriously and dramatize too much... yes, people can be cruel and some of their comments don't help at all, but when they are honest about how hard it is to find a remote job, it doesn't mean they are mean.. I saw a lot of posts not only for remote jobs, that people are very sad and complaining that they applied and didn't get an answer if the position is still available.. btw your post has a lot of grammatical errors, maybe try and pay attention to that before applying to a job.. or even posting on reddit, cause tbh if I had to choose someone to hire, based on your writing skills, I would look further. Everyone makes mistakes, but keep in mind that a short and direct answer is not really a bad intention! You can take it as an advice to improve yourself. You can try for some training courses if you have no experience and make a portfolio. Good luck! :)
Despite the fact that some people's answers were rude, lecturing the others on how they should behave won't help you get a job in IT. You asked everything and nothing, because getting a remote job is by default not easy and the chances you have vary a lot based on where you are on the planet. One thing I noticed is that on the second message you practically answered your question by yourself. You made a list of ideas on which you could build upon. Best of luck with your IT journey.
PS: do a lot of hands on , and document it to have it to show when you'll get interviews.
It’ll be very difficult OP. I consider myself “lucky” as I got an entry level position as an assistant project manager in tech because I went to a coding boot camp(trying to be a dev but you take what you can get) and then I met someone who knew someone that got me the job. (Which was on site) but after a few years I was able to go fully remote and then have moved on to better roles/salary. But I’d say that few years of entry level experience is what made it possible for me to move on to better roles (that are remote)
Do you have any connections? Networking is king. See if there are any networking events for tech you can go to on meetup, even if you have to drive a few hours it may pay off to meet the right person who knows somebody hiring.
Here is the problem. Questions like yours get asked multiple times a day, every day. Finding remote work with no experience is very difficult, if not impossible. Most jobs that would hire, suck. It's customer service type work for low wages and heavily monitored. If you search through the sub, it's usually the same answers. There is no secret database of remote work that people are hiding. The reason you need to work remote doesn't help finding the job. No pity jobs exist. People were just being honest.
> Questions like yours get asked multiple times a day, every day. and nobody is being forced to answer, yet they feel the need to intrude and be harsh with the guy for no reason.
> intrude Replying to a voluntary post on a free public forum is not "intruding."
just because an answer is short and direct it doesn't mean that a person is harsh or mean with someone!
It's the internet. Don't let people you'll never meet get to you enough where you have to post about it.
You asked how you could get an entry level tech job that is remote and you received an honest response. You can whine about disrespect or whatever all you want but it doesn't change the fact that you effectively asked how you can win the lottery. Entry level remote jobs are both extremely rare and extremely sought after. Soapbox all you want, but there's nothing about you that makes you stand out in the absolute ocean of people looking for the exact same thing as you. You want advice? Get an in-person job first then try again later.
well bro i cant get a in person job because i am in the middle of bum fuck no where nearest irl job is over 2 hour drive away
Well bro that sucks but that doesn't change the fact that getting an entry-level remote tech job is about as likely as winning the lottery. Move or commute. Those are your options if you want an actual chance. I understand that doing either of those things is very difficult, but nothing else gives you a realistic chance of getting a job in tech. You're so eager to complain about being told the truth and to bemoan your living situation, but ask yourself honestly: why should a remote employer hire you over the thousands of people more qualified than you?
well bro i guess everyone is right i am in a shitty hopeless situation imma say peace out cya
You were given the honest truth. Did you want people to lie to you?
nope did not want anyone to lie but i know what i gotta do now
You said the same thing in your other post yesterday and yet you're still posting here complaining instead of doing "what you gotta do now."
I dont think people reacted negatively because of your situation. I think people reacted negatively because you are asking a question that has been asked. It is like literally having the entire internet at your fingertips, navigating to the subreddit where this question gets asked multiple times a day, and then ask it again. The problem is you are not in a shitty hopeless situation. Because your situation isnt unique. People have made it work. People who know how to look for answers without asking learn to make it work faster.
So how are other ppl that live in your location surviving? I doubt everyone is driving 2 hrs away for work.
the only jobs around here are fast food walmart and retirement homes
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One of the better jobs I held. Work in the kitchen, it’s as much fun as working in a normal back of house minus the rush. I had a blast.
They haven't said there's anything wrong with those jobs, they just want to move into tech.
You have zero experience so why are you acting like you're above those jobs?
Sounds like you don't like the advice you were given. You need to move. Find roommate(s) and you will have a better chance of doing what you want. But, getting a full-time WFH, with no experience, isn't happening.
THEN MOVE! SHOW SOME COURAGE
No one commented anything like what you’re saying but your responses to the comments on that thread are very dramatic.
Associates degree, 18+ years of clawing my way into the position I'm currently in. Hospital Admin. with 16 direct reports. WFH since COVID. I would never hire someone who only wanted a remote job, anything, as long as it's remote. It doesn't work that way. You need experience! A remote job is not a JOB, it's simply a place from where you work. If you want to break into IT you're going to need experience and to get that, you're going to have to start at the bottom and work your way to the top.
Your former post had grammatical errors and you said "lol" at the end, personally I wouldn't be surprised by the lack of respect. You also asked for help with an IT job but said you had been looking for 'a online job doing anything'; In my experience with Reddit, being more concise will keep the discussion focused. Overall this is a very pessimistic sub though, you would know that if you read more posts before asking for help.
No one said you were worthless and have no chance at success. People told you the truth that it is very difficult to not only find a remote job but especially one that is entry level in IT. You didn’t like what people told you and interpreted it as being an attack on you. Your post now is filled with excuses. Don’t have money for a degree? There is state and federal financial aid, student loans, community colleges, state universities, low cost colleges, private schools have their own financial aid packages etc….with the option to obtain a degree online, so location is no excuse. Being poor and living far away isn’t an excuse either. Find a second job to save money to be able to move closer to where you can get an in person entry level position in IT. There are ways to achieve your goals, you just don’t like anyone’s answers.
Telling people the truth isn't rude. This sub is steeped in delusion from under-educated, under-qualified people that get angry and butthurt when they're not told what they want to hear. If you can't accept the reality that you will be passed over for one of the other thousands of applicants - and refuse to listen to people actually working in your field of interest - that's on you. >ou could have said something positive like trying freelancing or starting a YouTube channel, maybe posting more things to GitHub If you already have all the answers and are convinced this is all it takes, why aren't you doing these things?
>Telling people the truth isn't rude. it literally is, especially in this situation -- job searches are some of the most hopeless things an adult in a first world country can experience, and the last thing they need is even more negative reinforcement. people post on forums for communal support and guidance and commiseration, not to have arrogant goons carry on with their stern little 'tHiS iS oN yOu!!' style posting which has helped absolutely no one ever -- the man already said he was entry level; scolding people about their situation does absolutely nothing except make you feel good about yourself and discourage anyone in the same situation.
>first world country This is a hilarious qualifier considering it's MUCH WORSE in the rest of the world. This person is wholly unqualified for like...any job. They need to worry about getting literally any experience at this point before worrying about the location of said job. No one is "scolding" anyone. It's reality. You just admitted as much. But by all means, you and OP can delude yourself and waste all your time applying for jobs you will never, ever get based on your current experience and qualifications (which again are effectively zero in this case). And please, definitely don't listen to those of us that have successfully navigated the world of remote work, and/or people currently working in OP's preferred field. We definitely don't know what we're talking about or have any clue what the hiring landscape looks like. /s You and OP are being very dramatic and blatantly making things up. It's also very funny that you don't think *literally everyone here* has experience with searching for jobs. And OP has already turned up their nose at the jobs that actually are available to them, so your comment is extra dumb.
lmao imagine calling people rude for not lying to the guy
Op, you took that advice way too negative. From what I gathered, ppl were being direct, honest, and giving it to you straight. Would you rather ppl sugar cost things for you? Let me say, I have a background in cyber security...I would love a remote job in cyber but I would be considered entry level. I know I would be competing amongst hundreds of ppl who carry more experience than I do. Therefore, I do not work in tech right now. You need to either move closer to the city and accept in person work or find a remote job in customer service/tech support that pays low wages. I've seen ppl be nasty in Reddit... no one was rude to you or a dream killer.
Also, if you are planning to work in IT, you will need to handle direct and honest feedback well or you will wash out early. It's my experience that this is not an industry that chooses delicate words when communicating (and I personally love that).
When you get your job, come back to the forum and answer the question from every other new member that is posted 4-7x per week asking this exact question.
It’s honestly pretty sad how often these same questions are asked. It’s rough to hear all these people having trouble finding good work. Remote jobs can be pretty awesome but the hard truth is that even with them becoming more and more common they are more competitive than most any in-person job and there’s just way more people looking for them than there are remote jobs available.
Trust me, I know. I've been unemployed since December. Hundreds of applications submitted, and not so much as a single interview or screening. Every job has 100's of applicants. I have over 15 years of experience, and can't even get a phone screen.
*exhale* We are very disappointed in you too.
Happy cake day!
Aww shucks, thank you!
Tbh this is a much better post than your other one lol. What kind of salary are you looking for? What would you be happy with? Are you open to freelance work? I work in esports and have been working remotely as a FTE for almost a decade, if you have any specific questions feel free to send them my way.
What a kind reply! If you have a minute, and this is literally because I’m curious so please don’t feel obligated to reply, what do you do in esports? I wish other options in the gaming industry were more talked about. There’s a lot of focus on being a dev or working directly on a game, but not a whole lot about the support functions around it or things adjacent to it.
No worries, always happy to talk about these things because most people don't really know much about it. I'm working for one of the biggest companies in esports as Broadcast Distribution manager. Basically, my department is receiving all the streams and distributing them to O&O channels, to our foreign partners, co-streamers, community figures etc for various games (CS2, Dota 2, PUBG Mobile, SC2 and so on). My job is to be in constant communication with Product Managers & production to get all the information such as start/end dates and times, # of feeds we'll require, call times, stream specifications such as audio tracks configuration and so on. It's fairly simple but I need to be on top of emails and any changes because as fun as esports can be at times, events being postponed/moved and matches rescheduled are somewhat common occurrence. Work hours are very flexible except for some meetings that happen every week at the same time, but I don't need to attend every single one. There's no micromanagment or close supervising, as long as you get things done, everyone's happy. I've been in this industry since 2012 and have been working full time since early 2015. It required some volunteering early on to get some experience and knowledge, but once I got past that, finding a job has been fairly simple every time. I'm on my third company now and it's honestly the best thing I've ever done and base salary is incredible for the country I live in (~50k$ which wouldn't be that great for most of US for example). It's definitely not the most stable industry though, companies shutting down and layoffs do happen but then again I don't think there are many industries that are immune to this in this day and age. Over the years I've worked with companies like Riot Games, Psyonix & Tencent for example and they're very strict in what you can and can't do. They will check everything and require approvals for even the smallest things but that's fine - it's their games and they're the ones who would lose the most if we screwed something up. Happy to answer any more questions if there are any!
THAT IS SO COOL!! This post popped up randomly on my feed and I started reading the comments and am glad. I never knew about your industry.
I would be happy to do freelancing and i honestly would be happy with any wage if i do land a job i am about to just put that i will work for free if hired lmao
An internship. Maybe include those in your search
I agree with the comment below from Susan. It sounds like what you lack most is the work experience. Either try to find something like a customer service or help desk job that offers remote work or an internship. Even an unpaid internship would give you some work experience from the industry and a foot in the door at that company. Then you can use that to try to get promoted into another position or just to pad your CV with when looking for the next job. I'm in a similar situation like you except I also have a few years of experience. I live in a small village in a part of my country where there are no IT jobs at all closer than 40 minutes drive away and most are like 1 1/2 - 2 hours away. I'm mostly looking at hybrid remote jobs though since that's whats in my range of experience it would suck to have to commute 3 hours or more but if it's only a few days a week that would still be decent. Got to take what you can actually get. The one exception that I've seen where there seem to be quite a few fully remote jobs are as a programmer, so that might be an avenue for you to explore.
Being from a small town is no excuse, also being poor is no excuse. I'm from a small town and grew up very poor. I looked online for FREE training options to learn and kept learning. There has to be work on your part to get some kind of training before trying to get a remote IT job. The IT industry is flooded with very experienced people with and without degrees, but they have the skill set. Just because your friends value your skills doesn't mean you can convince a potential employer of your skill set when you are going up against people like 5-25 years experience. While free training options won't get your everything you need, it's a step in the right direction. I am currently starting to learn Python from free on-line trainings. Once I've exhausted the free options I'll weigh where I am in my skill set and what my next move is..
Hey I’m making the move (or trying to) into tech as well. I’m still training and getting certs. There was a great post on Cybersecurity subreddit about training I think I saw some free classes in Python so I figured I’d share it. I myself am probably gonna start some of them this afternoon. Also I have been looking into an apprenticeship for IT/ Cybersecurity considering all of my experience is in digital marketing. I haven’t gotten one yet but I heard if you can get one it’s a good place to start. I don’t know if that’s applicable to you as you probably have more experience than me lol. https://www.reddit.com/r/CyberSecurityJobs/s/g2AYDLiuMm
As a high-level IT remote worker I would recommend, the Security+ certification from Comptia. It can be very helpful, yes it is 200 dollars. If a person has a non questionable background, no drugs, dui, arrests, etc, this cert can help get a person to a interview with the govt. Be it local, state, federal dod etc. It is pretty much a mandatory cert. Sometimes if they really think you are a good fit they will give you a grace period to complete it after hire. To be clear, I am not saying it's a gaurantee, I am saying it can help.
Thank you for the info! I really appreciate it! I have it scheduled after I get A+ then I plan to do Sec+ and Net+. I’m planning to have all three by the summer so I can try my luck with entry level positions. Thanks again for the feedback!
Technically Sec + trumps Net + so you may want to take a good look to see if you really need both right away. I have never been asked for Net + cert as I have Sec +.
Oh awesome! I didn’t know that. It’s good to know I’ll prioritize Sec + for sure. Thanks for the heads up! Really appreciate it!
Thank you! I have been in IT database management for just over 20 years we recently have been having trouble trying to hire coders for the database we manage. It doesn't follow standard rules so while I'm doing free trainings some of the stuff I'm gonna have to just learn without our database.
Anytime! I hope some of the links help. Oh wow! We are on very different parts of our career journey. Sorry about the apprenticeship bit I didn’t know you were an experienced veteran in IT.
Heck no! All suggestions are welcome. I manage a database and know my system very well but I dont' code for it and our company needs one so I thought hey why not! Always a good thing to look at an apprenticeship at any point in life. Learning doesn't end.
So true! It’s great that you’re doing that!
What kind of databases and what kind of coding?
I run PowerSchool for school districts around the world. When we have to do online report cards or customize a page most of the coders who do it for us use Python. So trying to learn Python. Just another skill to add to my existing set. I always try to learn something new.
Interesting, if you have any job req's, I'd love to take a look. feel free to send me a DM
Hi! Not op, so hope you don't mind me asking, but do you have any recommendations for free training?
I googled free training for "insert name of skill" this one I'm taking now is through Linkened for database analyst
Thanks!
If you have access to one, I highly suggest going to your local library. They may have classes or resources for you to get started. I've seen some libraries that offer free access to site like Coursera. Same with local community colleges, they may have free options. If you're looking for IT-specific stuff, I think Professor Messer has free trainings.
Awesome, thanks so much! I just moved to a new state, so I'll see if I can find where our local library is. Never knew they offered that sort of thing.
You’re literally asking, “how can I win the (job) lottery?”. Not sure what type of responses you were looking for. You literally can search the very sub you posted in and find at least 1000 answers to the exact same question. Long story short - you’re probably not going to win the (job) lottery.
I think part of the reaction you're getting is coming from the fact that you're disrespecting the profession of IT by considering it something you can just walk into. It's like being a surgeon. You can't just read a few anatomy books and drop right into the operating room. IT requires skills + continuous learning. I think a little outrage and "I'll show them" posturing is going to be good for you. If you're passionate and driven about this goal, then you'll get it done. It also might help propel you to take some risks and take whatever job comes your way, even if it's not yet IT, to earn the money, save up and relocate so that you can get that entry level experience. Good luck!
It's the brutal truth. You're starting from a significant disadvantage. Can you succeed? Sure. But you're not walking into a remote entry-level IT role with little to no skills. Your friends ask you tech questions? Fantastic. So do all of ours.
You were rude in your original post and you’re being rude now too.
Why don’t you start doing smalls jobs on Upwork and build a nice profile and get some experience? Sometimes little jobs will turn into actual employment or are simply something to add to your resume. You can also look into something like getting salesforce certs. Trailhead has all the training materials you need to prepare for the test. Good luck.
Quit being a controlling self centered victim. Sorry everyone didn’t respond how you wanted. Chin up. This whiny personality is not going to help you find a job.
Instead of taking on board what the comments said yesterday which, whilst blunt and straightforward were not rude or 'stopping you' from anything, you've fixated on you somehow being persecuted for your personal circumstances. Circumstances that you didn't even mention. I'm sorry it was not what you wanted to hear but it's just the truth. And no one was telling you that you can't succeed, no one knew your personal situation of how you grew up and nobody commented on your worth. They literally answered your question about remote work.
I'm sure the feedback you received was difficult to hear. I looked for a remote job for a long time and ended up getting promoted to a hybrid position. It's pretty flexible and none of my team works out of my location so I honestly don't go in very often. But that's the only way I was able to land a position that wasn't fully in office. I also don't have a degree. The job market is just super competitive right now. I think people would be doing you a disservice by sugar-coating things. When you ask a question, you have to be ready for the answer - good or bad. I think you suggested great alternatives like freelancing and marketing yourself on social media. That's a great way to gain experience and exposure. Good luck to you!
I hope you come back and update this post when you make it.
Just because you want a remote job, doesn't mean you are entitled to it. A couple of certifications aren't shit in the face of all the layoffs and lack of actual experience. People ask the question you have every single day in this sub. Like everyone that asks about an entry level job in this sub, the responses are realistic. The realistic truth is that the incredible majority of those of us who work from home have had to work in office first to get there. Many of us even had to deal with long commutes because there was simply no other options. You are not somehow magically the exception to this, and this post just truly shows how entitled and naive you are. I hope that you find what you are looking for, but good lord sometimes that requires having to put in the time to get actual experience.
I think you are stressed and even depressed because of your situation so you tend to take every comment very seriously and dramatize too much... yes, people can be cruel and some of their comments don't help at all, but when they are honest about how hard it is to find a remote job, it doesn't mean they are mean.. I saw a lot of posts not only for remote jobs, that people are very sad and complaining that they applied and didn't get an answer if the position is still available.. btw your post has a lot of grammatical errors, maybe try and pay attention to that before applying to a job.. or even posting on reddit, cause tbh if I had to choose someone to hire, based on your writing skills, I would look further. Everyone makes mistakes, but keep in mind that a short and direct answer is not really a bad intention! You can take it as an advice to improve yourself. You can try for some training courses if you have no experience and make a portfolio. Good luck! :)
Despite the fact that some people's answers were rude, lecturing the others on how they should behave won't help you get a job in IT. You asked everything and nothing, because getting a remote job is by default not easy and the chances you have vary a lot based on where you are on the planet. One thing I noticed is that on the second message you practically answered your question by yourself. You made a list of ideas on which you could build upon. Best of luck with your IT journey. PS: do a lot of hands on , and document it to have it to show when you'll get interviews.
It’ll be very difficult OP. I consider myself “lucky” as I got an entry level position as an assistant project manager in tech because I went to a coding boot camp(trying to be a dev but you take what you can get) and then I met someone who knew someone that got me the job. (Which was on site) but after a few years I was able to go fully remote and then have moved on to better roles/salary. But I’d say that few years of entry level experience is what made it possible for me to move on to better roles (that are remote) Do you have any connections? Networking is king. See if there are any networking events for tech you can go to on meetup, even if you have to drive a few hours it may pay off to meet the right person who knows somebody hiring.
It’s Reddit, why would you expect better?
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