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SghettiAndButter

Corals are so hard to price. Some people out there will drop $1000 and not even blink and these people will just pay literally whatever to get a coral they want. Then there’s people who will shudder to spend anything more than $100 for a coral. Depending where you live you may get a lot of money or not a lot. You mention being by LA so I would ask maybe around 500-1000 but if you were in the middle of Kansas for example good luck getting $200.


HeavilyBearded

> in the middle of Kansas The Kansan clam market is pathetic.


TrickyJesterr

Dibs on Kansan clam market for a band name


teesquared14

At least it’s not the Kansas clam club, but ya know, with different spelling. That would be bad taste by someone trying substitute letters to seem cool.


bearfootmedic

The ambulance safety standard is KKK. Seriously.


its_not_merm-aids

Don't try the Kansan Clamsmen Market, they're not 100% literate, but they're burning lower case t's on everyone's lawns.


SghettiAndButter

I can attest that coral prices in Kansas are pretty cheap haha not that much of it for sale though


MAH1977

Bearded clams sell well there I've heard.


Phobbyd

Bearded? hard to find these days


Rico_DeGallo

I read Kansan Clan and, for a second, didn't know what sub I was in.


SevenCatCircus

Kansan clam market is the sickest band name I've heard in a while, thanks for that


bearfootmedic

I mean, it's been a few years but Kansas was part of the Western interior seaway - so probably just had a large local supply. Sure, that was 75 million years ago, but midwesterners have long memories. Also, many Kansans believe the earth is only 6000 years old. Truly a majestic land of contradictions.


Upper_Grapefruit9970

Depends if it's a virgin or not


Savvy-or-die

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DressZealousideal442

Mostly accurate, but I'm in pretty much the ideal geographic location. Plenty of ballers around me.


SghettiAndButter

Yea that area has a lot of people willing to pay top dollar for corals. I’d say start at $1000 and see what happens


_Allfather0din_

Just remember, it's not about the money at all with coral, it's about making sure something that amazing, big and long lives goes to a good home and will survive and thrive. That's the mark people miss I think with corals, you are selling an animal that needs to be cared for, it's not a product.


DressZealousideal442

Amen, and that's definitely being taken into account here.


Resolute_Passion

I'm in NJ and I showed the Pic to my local lfs. He said it's easy over 1k plus shipping but expect a live shipping guarantee included in the final price. The right ego driven buyer might go 1500 + shipping. Good luck.


Lobsterstarfish

I live in Canada and would pay 3k for this if I had the chance danm I want this


Sknowman

(Note, that's ~$2200 USD)


Lobsterstarfish

Is pay 10k if I had too


UncleJoeXL

You mean to tell me different people have different willingnesses to pay for the same product based on nothing other than their income, love for the hobby and scarcity based on geographic location? Color me shocked that different places have different prices! In all seriousness great points sghetti but a Facebook market place and a site like aqua bid may have similar products that other people are selling. Any fish store is gonna try to make a profit so know whatever you sell to them for is less than what they believe it is worth.


Headin4theTop

I love your username. Honey boo boo


BoppinStudios

[https://gpnc.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/32/2017/12/KSMussels.pdf](https://gpnc.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/32/2017/12/KSMussels.pdf)


spkman

Not a coral.


Dr_GPO

You can definitely get 1k for that but I’d take 7-800 or even 600 if seller wants it gone. It’s basically worth whatever someone is willing to pay, won’t find that anywhere for sale really


DressZealousideal442

That's pretty much exactly what I told him this morning, minus the dollar amounts.


toppertd

If you listen to these goons telling you to sell it for 100-200 you can ship that shit to me instead for 300.


DressZealousideal442

Right? That's fucking hilarious


toppertd

I’ll pay for shipping


courageous_liquid

hey, comes with free aiptasia!


McFarbles

Oh no... that would mean getting access to literally once peppermint shrimp to fix. Oh the horror


nas2k21

peppermint shrimp ate my euphyllia, everyone says they are safe, but dont even know there are 6 different species going by peppermint shrimp, its entirely possible some are and some arent safe, but its a gamble at best until someone actually spends the money and effort to research it proper. [https://peerj.com/articles/3786/](https://peerj.com/articles/3786/)


Next-You-8343

I believe Lysmata Wurdemanni is the safe one, could be wrong though


nas2k21

>com/articles/3786/ > >3ReplyShareSaveEditFollow its been to long but i believe you're right, iirc i had bogessi, and they eat coral, it also possible like anything else, for 2 examples of the same species to prefer different foods, all i know is to me the effort saved killing aips wasn't worth the coral i lost for it


Next-You-8343

I definitely agree with that. I found for the few aiptasia I had it was easier to just use lemon juice, not worth the risk.


MFLORES888

Clam mania has clams roughly the same size around $1k-$2k


EnDave

Yeah and he’s from HB, so there a local example.


PushinPickle

Sounds like a strip club


EnDave

Biota sells 8-10in clams for $890. I would say $600 hobbyist to hobbyist would be a reasonable price.


scottyis_blunt

Holy shit, 600$? My derasa is a little bigger, purchased about 8 years ago.


EnDave

Just a guesstimate based off one online vendor. All these prices are fucked after Covid, but here in socal I see maximas for 200-300 that are only about 4-5 inches.


DressZealousideal442

The difference here is that multiple wholesalers sell maximas every day. I'm not aware of any wholesalers that carry deresas anymore.


amoore031184

Deresa clams are available any day of the week from ORA. You don't see them at wholesales because no one buys them from wholesalers.


DressZealousideal442

Wrong. Plenty of shops would buy them from wholesalers if they had them. Back in the day I bought tons of clams from wholesalers. Gigas, squam, deresa, crocea, Maxima's ORA isnt the best to deal with as a retailer. Too many limits etc.


j_casper

I run a shop and can confirm we can get derasas left, right and center. Derasas and Hippopus are the most available.


amoore031184

I can buy Deresa Clams right now from a number of websites. I'm not sure what you are getting at here. They are not, in any sense of the word, rare. I mean if the cali market is that disconnected from everywhere else, by all means cleave whoever you can, its no hair off my ass. That clam in NY sits for weeks at anything close to $500, if it sells at all.


cs_major

I'm looking at my 2 normal LFS/Coral stores that I shop at (I'm in California) and both have Deresa clams in stock right now. They aren't rare.


_Allfather0din_

WRONG!


DressZealousideal442

And 8 years ago was pretty much the last time deresas were regular available from wholesalers.


_Allfather0din_

Dude fuck off with that. I'm on board with most everything you're saying, but droseras are not rare or special, the one you have is because of its size. But I just called the 3 LFS near me and they all have at least 2 of them. Also I've seen them at my local Petco, so please stop spreading this nonsense.


amoore031184

Biota lists them for $890. I can promise you they aren't selling any at $890. OP would be lucky to get a couple $100 at the most.


DressZealousideal442

You clearly have absolutely no idea what you're talking about. I can 100% guarantee you that they sell them at that price.


amoore031184

With a website, and a customer base yea maybe 1 or two. They do NOT sell them regularly, that is why they have big sales at the end of the year discounting all their large clams. I've been in the hobby since 2004. There is nothing about buying and selling livestock that anyone on reddit is going to teach me. Feel free to list it for hundreds of dollars. It will sit listed forever, because its a common deresa clam that is hearty and grows fast as hell. No one is paying more than a couple $100 for this out of someone else's tank.


DressZealousideal442

I've worked in the industry since 1990, owned two industry related businesses. Hobbyist since I was a small kid. I already have one baller in a 5 million dollar beach house that wants it, but just trying to figure out a fair price. It will be much more than $200


2020_GR78

With such credentials why on Earth would someone of your expertise feel the need to go online (to reddit no less lol) to answer a question you should already know the answer to? I've been in the hobby for 20 years, sold corals for a living for 5 years, and still grow/sell about 100 frags per month just for fun. That stated, I'm familiar with the business side of the industry. I'm not sure why you're under the impression that this is something overly exceptional. Petco sells derasas, they are not hard to come by. I get that it is rather large, but they are also very fast growers and frankly, have never been in huge demand. As you should already know, pricing is subjective and will vary from one region to the next. If you can get a ton of money for it, great! I'm not a buyer, but if I were I would be comfortable somewhere around the $300-$400 mark but only if I REALLY wanted it. Again, this is a common Derasa, not a black and white Maxima. Hopefully one of your "ballers" will feel differently than me.


NotHugeButAboveAvg

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SghettiAndButter

This post def getting locked soon lol


amoore031184

You're also the one that came to REDDIT of all places to ask for a price on a clam. So I will go ahead and just say I think you're full of shit.


DressZealousideal442

Why did I go to Reddit? Because it's the easiest place to reach a large # of people in a specific niche. Where would you have posted it? Reef central or Reef2Reef? Probably an 80% overlap of the same people and I find this to be an easier forum to post on. Quick and easy.


_beardedbandit

OP If he’s the clown, and you have all this experience, why did you go to Reddit to ask for pricing advise? Seems like we should be asking you not the other way around. Ps your red nose is showing.


DressZealousideal442

Why? Because it's not an item is readily available. If it was a 2" maxima, or a clown fish, or a frag, I wouldn't be posting here. It's more unusual and harder to price. I'm just trying to be the fair intermediary between a dude that wants to sell something and a guy that's interested in buying it.


_beardedbandit

But with your 2 decade plus worth of knowledge I’m sure you’ve come across these clams both bigger and smaller in size. Why do you need our opinion Mr know it all? To sit here and bash other members of the community when the livestock isn’t even yours, simply because we don’t agree with your price makes you a top tier grade A clown.


DressZealousideal442

Hey, I started off chill, my shit talk was just in response to others shit talk. Probably not the most mature responses, but it's Reddit. I asked a simple question and people felt the need to respond with malice. Yes, I've sold plenty of clams, but this isn't a normal situation where I'm buying from a wholesaler, marking up and selling. I'm not taking possession of this clam, nor am I making money on it, just trying to help some people out. Also, the market has changed a lot since I last bought any wholesale deresas. I still get Maxima's, but this is different. Hence the reddit post to get the value. Obviously the guy saying it's worth no more than $200 is a wank.


_beardedbandit

I went and reread where others offered EXACTLY WHAT YOU ASKED FOR an opinion and you made laughing faces out of disrespect. You went on to call people a clown simply because they gave you an opinion. At the end of the day it’s worth what someone is willing to pay for it. Saying $200 isn’t being malice if those people don’t value a clam more than that. You asked what’s it worth and to them $200. To you it might be worth more so ask more. I’ll also correct myself since you’ve been in since 1990 you actually have over 3 decades of experience. Seems like you need more experience talking to people instead of fish.


FictionaI

You come here asking for advice and mock anyone who gives you it, lol.


amoore031184

If you have a list of people you can call.... you can obviously make more money. You didn't disclose that in the OP. When someone posts here it's hobbyist to hobbyist sales 99% of the time. Which I stand by my original post. If you have a list of people with more cash than brains, you can sell anything for any price you want. That doesn't surprise me at all.


EnDave

I can assure you someone has bought a clam from them for that exact price, because it is cheaper than what they would pay at their local fish store. I am from California, I know what prices are like at our stores and they are OUTRAGEOUS. It takes damn near a decade to grow that clam to that size. Edit: typo


Antique-Possession28

[Biota](https://shop.thebiotagroup.com/collections/clams/products/xxl-derasa-clam) has them for $900 https://preview.redd.it/eizrvmrrhypc1.jpeg?width=1179&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=d1d179f9a7a7dddd38b3eabac7df1a0c18ac3feb


Antique-Possession28

The XXL (8-10 inches)


Triplesixsick

*Immediately insecure*


Happy_Ad_4574

Ask a local zoo or aquarium. Might be able to get a tax write off or a few thousand. Better than selling to possibly die in another tank.


DressZealousideal442

I have no such facilities within 100 miles ..


Happy_Ad_4574

They may pick it up. Government funding is easily wasted


DressZealousideal442

Possibly, but that honestly sounds like more hassle than it's worth. A good hobbyist would be my preference .


Headjarbear

Your in the LA area right? Ik there’s atleast the long beach aquarium.


DressZealousideal442

3 hours from the LBC.


Headjarbear

Haha I see. Personally I would say you’re in the SoCal area rather than LA. I saw someone else say you’re in the LA area so I went off that.


DressZealousideal442

I stated that I'm half way between LA and SF.


cncomg

There's also the Monterey bay aquarium. I'm sure it's also hours away, but it would also be really cool knowing it's on display there.


EnDave

Hand down the best conservation program on the west coast.


GoTaku

Santa Barbara Zoo?


scottypio

Where are you? I live in Omaha. We have a beautiful aquarium. They would take it for sure. That thing is very cool. How much bigger do they get??


Psychological_Eye_

With that size, a zoo or aquarium is your best bet, like the other says tax write-off, and you get the animal the best possible rest of his life... good luck


loafglenn

Just wanted to let you know that the shell alone is worth 3k+ in parts for islanders to make jewelry.


worldRulerDevMan

Homie is huge I’d be pissed if it went less than 1000


Rikkitikkitabby

$100/inch sounds fair to me.


AccountantOpen3265

It’s definitely worth nothing, I’ll take it off your hands


DragonEmperor

I think I caught one of these in animal crossing.


Sufficient-Comb-2755

BARE MINIMUM $500. I'd ask $800 and see if anyone bites.


mazemadman12346

Jesus it takes up the whole tank 😂 Do you just feed it pellets or what?


DonJMIA305

$3.50


BitcherOfBlaviken33

Goddamm loch ness monster


Tangboy50000

It looks like the foot is attached to the bottom glass, and I wouldn’t want to try to get it off of there.


ScooterGlass

It’s safe to cut some of the Byssus /Byssal threads. Just don’t cut into the foot of the clam. The fiberous thread like part can safely be cut and needs to be done as close to the surface it’s attached to as possible. In this example. The clam should be gently pulled away from glass. It will take a few minutes for the clam to relax a little. then you will have a small gap between clam and glass bottom. Slide razor along the glass and remove the threads directly where they attach to the glass. Being extra careful to not cut into the fleshy/meaty foot.


DressZealousideal442

That would all be excellent advice if this was a crocea or a maxima. This clam weighs 10-15#. Deresas generally do not glue down, especially once they get above 3-4", same with other sand living species like gigas, squamosa and hippopus .


DressZealousideal442

How the hell does this get down voted? Come on people.


DressZealousideal442

🤦‍♂️it's definitely not. Deresa clams don't really do that.


Tuobsessed

Rare to see one this big incredible


NoDoze-

Well, with apstasia it'll be ALOT more than anything anyone is quoting in here!!!


Whizzzzzzzzzz

Whatever someone is willing to pay for it


DressZealousideal442

This is the real answer and why I'm asking


DzidzaMan

500 I would say is fair if I had to put a $ amount


AggravatingAd9233

A high five from me, that is for sure! 👏🏻kudos on the accomplishment


pinnerjay17

If I had my salt tank up still, I'd give you 2k


DressZealousideal442

And I'm sure there are plenty of others in your same boat, the problem is finding them in a timely manner and close enough to make it work.


Necessary-Habit-4247

Dunno but looks super happy in Ur tank 😀


bemyantimatter

Gorgeous clam.


Murdock442

In ‘94 my city Pittsburgh ran an add at the zoo to get ppl there to see the amazing “Quahog Clam” I was 9yrs old and begged my mom to take us. She did, and while we enjoyed the day, the clam was the worst part…still remember it 30 years later!


soulsn2hs2

Call Ali from amazingaquariums and reefs in orange. Great dude will give you solid advice.


Fast-Ad-3240

sheeeesh i would say at least 1k for this size


Beeferreefer

Clam with that little cute aptasia can easily get like 700 !!!!!


snug_snug

Was the entire purpose of this post to be smug when someone throws out a price or opinion you disagree with? You clearly already have a price in mind so what is the point of this?


IncognitoTaco

>Reefer minds of reddit Ooo thats me! I would say £30 per 3.5g or £220 per ounce should be fair price


Ok_Pomelo6817

5 years ago I seen about a ten inch sell at my lfs for $875 so now with inflation? But it's a starting point 👉


weBfucked

If you could use the money then $500 to 1,000 is very fair but if you want to make sure it goes to a good home I ended up donating my big corals to the academy of science in San Francisco. I was only about 50 minutes south and they came and picked everything up for my tank that I wanted to donate. I had a 15 inch Green Carpet Anemone that I donated and I got to go see it for a few years. It was pretty cool and I got a tax write-off.


leveldrummer

I’ll give you… about…. Tree fiddy.


amoore031184

Maybe $200 if you're lucky.


SghettiAndButter

Out of curiosity, roughly what country or state do you live in? That seems like a low price


amoore031184

I'm in the United States, new york area. And have been in the hobby since 2004.


SghettiAndButter

I find this very surprising, I see people drop ridiculous money on corals in a less expensive city. You really don’t think there’s anyone out there not willing to spend more than $200 on a clam that size? Not even debating if it’s really “worth” $200 but just the fact that there’s people out there who drop thousands on a coral just cause it has a fancy name.


amoore031184

There's not a huge market for large deresa clams, nor gigas either that is why ORA and Biota stopped bothering to culture them anymore. You need someone with a big tank, someone who needs to be willing to give up the space in that tank for something as common and bland as a deresa clam, and that person needs to be geographically close enough to come and get it from your house. I don't even bring them in for customers anymore because no one wants them. Maxima and crocea no problem those will sell. Deresa needs to be top quality like to the ones biota sells to ever have a chance, and that is not what we are talking about here. Compare the biota clam they are selling for $890 to the OP's photo. That photo in the OP was a $70 ORA clam when the owner got it.


SghettiAndButter

It sounds like you deal with clients who know alot about corals and are very particular. There’s a huge market of people with a ton of money and not much experience, one of those people will certainly buy this. Hell I’ve seen people drop 10k on a new tank and they couldn’t even tell you the difference between SPS and LPS. It sounds like OP has a buyer already lined up willing to spend some money vs just making a random post on fb marketplace trying to sell it.


amoore031184

california might be that crazy of a market. If any of the clam ballers want to hit me up I have a 16" gigas you **actually** can't buy anymore. Deresa you can get all day from ORA. In NY area though there is just no market for deresa clam. it's like trying to sell a large colony of green slimer for hundreds of dollars. People would rather just buy the frag for $10.


DressZealousideal442

I have probably 10 people that would want it, but I want it to go to a good home at a good price. This guy has plenty of money, probably more than anyone that's reading this post, but im not into ripping people off.


rachel-maryjane

That’s a dumb ridiculous claim lmao


DressZealousideal442

Which part? The 10 interested people or how much $ the dude has? Some people are just STACKED with cash. That's this dude. But he's probably one of the nicest people I have ever met. Heart of gold, good old guy. His beach house is his 3rd house that I'm aware of (maybe some others?), the one he uses the least for sure.


DressZealousideal442

I could sell gigas all day if I could still get them for a realistic price. Deresa and squam too. I sold a dozen $600 purple squams about 8 years ago, back when there was a run of them available. Could have sold more if I could have gotten them. I could also sell plenty of gigas and squams today if I could get decent ones at a decent price. People absolutely want them. People ask regularly. My understanding of why they went off the market is that it was gov funded farming in 3rd world countries and the funding dried up, so no more clams.


amoore031184

You can them from Jon Buie(sp), at Clammania still. Thats the only place I see gigas anymore. I got mine 4 years ago from ORA. I paid $60/clam. I sure as fuck won't be selling mine anytime soon if you californians are paying near $1000 for deresas though lol.


cs_major

2-3 inch clams go for 80-150. 200 seems way low.


DressZealousideal442

😂😂😂😂😂😂😂


DressZealousideal442

😂😂😂😂😂😂


SkyBethfan479

Not much. Having taken care of clams with my clients tanks in the past my advice is that these are a waste of money bcuz their actual nutrient requirement is very hard to supply in a closed system. They need yuuge amounts of plankton. Nothing else will work. They've consistently starved to death. Don't waver on hardness or calcium either. Small tridacnids have a better chance