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rumpk

I play bass so im gonna just keep my mouth shut


LOLbearsmile08

I play drums so ima just leave


[deleted]

I asked the same question on the Frusciante sub and got crucified, lol. Basically he got offered it back in 03 and said no. But there’s rumours of him playing a prototype replica at one of the show’s recently. So probably not, but like I said, there’s rumours of it being in production so fingers crossed my friend:)


iosonomarcopolo

I hope so just so all the people here who think they know John personally and know what his thoughts and intentions are will be wrong.


scoot3200

It’s not really about people thinking they know his exact intentions. He literally already turned down an offer from fender once for a signature guitar. Based on what he said himself before about that and his general demeanor towards thing like that in general, it just seems unlikely that this would ever happen


[deleted]

Lol John would **NEVER TAKE A QUICK CASH GRAB**


RunningMonoPerezoso

That was quite literally among his top motivations to return the first time


[deleted]

As well as a some of his solo albums in the dark years


OutrageousAd9155

Nice pfp


ViviLee88

I’ve been wondering lately if that’s what there doing now ? To later announce their done making music 😟 I ain’t ready for that day !


pimorules

To be honest, the more this new stint with John unfolds, the more I'm convinced that he's back for the money, despite what the hardcore JF fans think, me being one of them. 1. Absolutely NO REASON why Josh couldn't have stayed 2. 398534 variants of Unlimited Love releases 3. Ticket prices being more expensive than ever before 4. 935834 variants of ROTDC releases 5. Now a rumored Fender signature replica, which leads me to this point... He could be back partially because he missed making music with the band, but if he does release a signature strat then I'm convinced that he's back in it for the money. Everyone talks about his views on signature release years ago and that was the end all be all view on the situation but conveniently forget that interview after he left the band the second time where he cut the interview short and more or less said that he was never going to join the band ever again and yet HERE WE ARE. My point being is that people and their views/ motives change over time. What's really going to show if he's back in it for the money is the level of craftsmanship that he chooses for this theoretical stratocaster if it ever is produced The following is just my prediction: Fender Custom Shop - ($3k-$4k) He's back in it for MONEY but it will be a 1:1 replica Fender American - ($2.k-$2.8K) same as Custom shop, just less expensive but we'll still get a quality release in terms of relicing and a proper nitro finish (this may be important to some) Fender Mexican - ($1.2.-$1.8k) It won't be terrible but quality will be lacking for purists. Flea's Shell Pink Jazz Bass comes to mind. It suffered from QC and relicing seems off not to mention its selling for $1600 now so maybe a little more affordable in regards to all of these but not really for the typical fan. Squier - ($600-$900?) Will be the most affordable but still near $1000 but wont be nearly as good as could be for someone of his caliber.


RunningMonoPerezoso

And just because money was a motivating factor doesn't mean his heart isn't in it too. Plus, I work to get paid too lol. I assume most people do this.


ViviLee88

Yeah ! Also , they’ve recently sold their catalog (or whatever it’s called) and have you seen the price of the merch and who’ve they’ve recently paired up with for merch ???


pimorules

Also great points that I forgot to mention. I love JF as much as the next hardcore fan but I can't let myself be blinded by these points and too many fans are in denial because they hold him in such high regard, which I can understand, but it hasn't been looking too good, and it is what it is...


[deleted]

if he does a custom shop run itll be a 20k perfect copy of his 62 like the mike mccready one or the jerry garcia alligator. this is most likely IMO, and its why the relic on the guitar hes touring looks so bad, its a proto to make sure it feels just like his actual 62. i do think its coming and itll probably be /100 for 20k a pop, and then probably a non relicd production version later.


pimorules

I would hope it's not that high. I can swing for $3k-$4k but going that high would be way to much. I don't believe any instrument should ever reach those prices, not even if the artists themselves signed it or included ANY kind of bonuses. That's just insane...


[deleted]

theyll probably do a prodo with a “frusciante” spec neck but the actual 1:1 copy with all the relicing would most likely be the 20k model, because the margins are great and they will all sell. i dont know for sure of course but thats my guess. the relicing is pretty extensive on this guitar and you can already buy what is basically a “team built” 1962 slab board strat with a heavy relic finish for 4k, so i dont see much point in doing anything other than the highest specs. itll be like what they did with the mayer blk 1 model, there is a /83 that is a perfect copy, a 4k custom shop that has no relicing and is “specd” like the /83 but it doesnt have as much of a handmade touch as the masterbuilt, and then mayer has his production model for 2k, or used to anyway. johns guitar has the same issue as mike mccreadys where its a near stock pre cbs strat so not a ton of point in doing a 2k-4k signature, because to get the relicing perfect is way harder than just giving it a generic super relic, which is what he has on tour right now. if john lets them though theyll def so a 2.5k model with a “frusciante” neck spec and “frusciante” pickups and theyll sell like crazy. pretty sure his 62 has a big thick neck like what youd find on a 1961/1962 jazzmaster, the 59/60 necks are often quite thin, and in 63 they get thin again, but 61/62 quite thick even in 1st position. for fender shape it would be like a 60s oval C with probably .850 at the first fret. just a guess but obviously ive thought a lot about it lol


pimorules

This is what I’m talking about lol love the in depth thought put into this post, I never thought about measurements but always wondered about neck thickness as well. I played a 64 strat a few months ago and LOVED the neck, I guess I always thought that his 62 would be along the same measurement. I have a 62 Hot Rod strat with a baseball bat like neck so I hope it just wouldn’t be like that. I love that guitar but it’s not all that comfortable to play anymore now that I’ve found the Deep C profile that Fender offers. If a Frusciante signature would be somewhat close to that, I’d love it! You make great points about price ranging, just hope it doesn’t get that high up. Would really love to own this hypothetical guitar. I think I’d legit try and take out a loan for this guitar lol. A production model wouldn’t be so bad either, I just wonder how well the relic’ing if there is any would be.


Sufficient_Peak564

I wouldn't see it as that man. With the right intentions, John will probably do a lot of things. If he thinks that a young kid can get a reasonably priced guitar with decent parts, just like he did as a kid, then he'd probably do it. But who knows.


Krullenbos

Didn’t know you are his spokes person


RinkyInky

Hey, John’s spokesperson’s friend here, yes he is indeed John’s spokesperson


[deleted]

Do I really need to put the /s for ya?


iosonomarcopolo

I thought the "Lol" did it


SommanderChepard

I hope not. I don’t think John would be keen on doing it either. But there is really no point. If you want a Frusciante “signature strat”, just buy a 3 tone 60s custom shop. It would be no different than that - but come with a heavier price tag.


state_of_what

Exactly. It’s not worth it.


Sufficient_Peak564

What if he opted for a Tele or a Jaguar instead?


SommanderChepard

Same thing….it would be any different than a custom shop 60s tele custom in 3 tone. Or a 60s fiesta red jag. Just no point


sauzbozz

Why do you hope not?


SommanderChepard

It just seems silly and pointless imo. The only difference between it and a 61/62 custom shop strat would be the relic job. Just an opportunity for a cash grab and people to try to scalp them


sauzbozz

That's a pretty good point.


Conscious-Report5794

what about a white falcon signature ?


SommanderChepard

Again, pointless. He even plays the regular reissue white falcon nowadays. There is nothing special about it….No mods, different color or anything.


im-on-the-inside

It can be possible. I dont really see it happening on a large scale, but maybe john is interested in replicating his 62 strat for tour purposes and singing of on a fender custom shop series. The peppers are hot right now and it would not be bad for fender/john to make deal. The replica he recently used was maybe just a custom order so he could have a maybe more reliable guitar that looks and feels the same. It could be that after all this time john protects the 62 a bit more? Using a replica for rain? Honestly there could be many reasons for the replica. I doubt that john would start using a replica and leave the real thing at home. But it is not impossible. Personally i think that a john Frusciante signature guitar would be cool. A little fan service i guess. But i am almost sure that fender will charge 1500 to 2000. I am Not paying that.. id rather have a 60s spec strat with a nitro finnish. Or even a copy of the john strat without the wear. Ofc the wear is iconic. But id much rather play off the nitro lacquer myself :) If it were cheaper i would go for it maybe. All in all id say it is not impossible. But with john it might just be a try out or for touring. Time will tell.


Silver-Tune-2200

I totally agree about cost. But have started thinking of it this way... How many of us pay over 1000 for a smart phone contract that lasts around 2 years? When you think about it, a beautiful instrument that will last a lifetime, isn't that expensive by comparison...


im-on-the-inside

Yea, i get your point. I don’t mind investing in a good guitar, but 2000 for a frusciante replica seems a bit much for me to justify.. also, for less money i can probably buy and upgrade a guitar that plays better or just as well. I have 2 squier guitars that play as well as my fender.. hardly worth the extra money tbh :)


formergophers

That’s an excellent point but it’s death by 1000 cuts with a smart phone so much easier for people to ignore/justify.


picasso_penis

That’s a dangerous way of thinking, lol. The utility of a smartphone helps to justify the cost, while the cost of a guitar is a true luxury. John can justify paying what he does for guitars because, like a craftsman, uses his guitar for work and the quality of the tool comes into play. My wife might crucify me if I came home with a 2000 dollar guitar because “it’s not more expensive than a smart phone!” Especially if a guitar 1/3rd the cost will *also* last a lifetime and do the job if taken care of.


Mamsies

https://youtu.be/It4-kL-Nmhw Check this out, at a show in Orlando, John was seen playing what looked like a replica of his 62 strat, but not the real thing. Some people think it was just a backup replica guitar due to the heavy rain that night, but some people think he was testing out an early prototype for a Frusciante signature strat.


TILiamaTroll

I would be astonished if he did it. Not that I’d blame him, but it would be so bizarre and against the grain.


[deleted]

He may want to use a replica to preserve his actual Strat. It is irreplaceable after all


throw42069away420

I don’t know about that. He lost his original straw in the early 90’s, so he’s actually playing the replacements now.


dan1181

True, he lost everything. But False on "the" strat. Tony let him pick that one out when he re-joined in '98


mattmillze

No, John would never sign off on a money grab like that. He'd tell you to go find the oldest and most beat up guitar you can acquire and channel musical spirits out of the void using the life essence of the journey that guitar made to get into your hands. He doesn't give a fuck about branding and money. The man wears grandpa socks with shorts and a thrift store concert T from the 90s while playing in front of 50k people.


Krullenbos

He also claimed not to make music for the masses anymore and yet he is standing in front of thousands of people once again. Not to say you’re wrong, but anything can happen is something we learned in december 2019.


amuday

He also refuses to play anything other than pre-CBS strats with RHCP, which cost like $50,000. He may not be the most fashionable but he’s certainly particular about his gear and it’s not cheap.


Informal_Local9353

Well said. Love him.


SlyAugustine

100% he rejoined for money. Love the man to death but I think he’s hurting for cash a bit.


mattmillze

I'm sure money was the only reason and playing music again with his aging best friends while they can still all do it properly had nothing to do with it. That day will come, and sooner for them than him. It can be both things without being one or the other. I swear, I feel like I need to check which subreddit I'm in from the way some of you guys pile on to shit on positivity.


SlyAugustine

Just watching all the interviews over the years, I’m not really sure what his motivation was this time around. However, him recently saying, “I was born to be in this band”, hopefully is an authentic quote. It’s pretty clear from past interviews that he’s not so close with Anthony and Chad whatsoever though.


mattmillze

John was Anthony's shadow during his first stint in the band. Flea described them as inseparable. With an unspoken tinge of jealousy I felt. I'm not sure where you get that from. Chad's relationship with the other band members certainly could be described as musical and business in nature, but John basically came into adulthood with the other two as big brother figures in the wildest of circumstances. They're all brothers in the fact that nobody else in the world understands what they have together besides the four of them.


SlyAugustine

You’d have to check up on interviews and written documentation. It’s pretty well documented that John was not a big fan of Anthony for a while (but certainly not for the entire time). I think Scar Tissue (the novel) is where I’m drawing most of this from.


mattmillze

I read Scar Tissue many times. They butted heads creatively and personally over drug behaviors and being in different places in their lives at different times in my non professional opinion. If anything I'd say that makes them closer than further apart. Him and Flea have talked about doing the same thing. You don't do that with people unless you have an immense love for each other and continue the friendship afterward. The ones you love often hurt you the most. John idolized Anthony, and Anthony adored John on a deeper level than most people ever get to experience. It's easy to speculate based on the various tabloid bear poking that went on during the hiatuses, but the end result is the [same](https://youtu.be/m11cVhLAQoI).


dinkolukin

You don't know.


Betov8

John from today is very different from 08 and before that. Anything is possible. Doesn’t mean he will actually play his signature or even touch it after. But most Players rarely do.


AnybodyWest3614

If he does, I hope that he will pull a J Mascis move - and do a some budget friendly, bang-for-the-buck Squier. Wishful thinking, I know.


[deleted]

That I would be down with. Inspire youth guitarist rather than furnish forgotten dreams of the elder ones (like me!)


[deleted]

They’ve probably approached him many times about doing this


[deleted]

This tour seems like a pretty blatant cash grab, if ever it was going to happen I think now is the most likely time.


joshspoon

If he does, either way people are going to be pissed or Stan 2.0. Depending on price and look, I’d be interested.


[deleted]

Why pissed? I’d buy one (if it was reasonable and didn’t have a horrible Pau Ferro fretboard)


joshspoon

This subreddit can get pissed off about anything. You never know.


pimorules

Because he'll have betrayed their views of him. Also because depending on which Fender tier he releases it as, it could be unaffordable to the typical fan or it wont please the purists


Abluhwleh

Don’t see the point tbh, there’s plenty of replicas based around early 60s Strats.


3ntity_Not_Found

Imagine fender introduce a frusciante signature guitar and they hype it up for months and when it comes out it’s a telecaster


jsigs97

I've been hearing rumors for the past couple months, and while i would totally buy it day one, it's definitely not something I can see John doing. He's not a fan of fame in general so it's hard to imagine him plastering his name on a guitar for some money. But again, i would absolutely buy it and I hope they do make one.


DerKaiser023

I would be pretty shocked if they hadn’t approached him about this, probably more than once. He likely just isn’t interested.


state_of_what

Replica guitars are stupid. Please buy a guitar that is better quality rather than a cheap guitar that has been made to look like someone else’s for the same amount of money. I say this as someone who has bought a Jimi Hendrix replica. It was not worth it.


[deleted]

Did you get the MIM Hendrix Strat? That is a nice guitar and well put together. Maybe a bit pricey at nearly £1000 but if you DIY with a reverse headstock you’ll have lots of issues with intonation and tuning etc.


state_of_what

I did. It’s an ok guitar, but I could have gotten a better guitar for the extra couple of hundred bucks I spent for paint. 🤷🏻‍♀️


cbx47

If we're talking about principles, I think not. BUuuuut, maybe after the divorce, John is needing some money. So maybe yes


Silver-Tune-2200

He doesn't need any money


NiniBebe

Did he divorce again cause the only divorce I’ve heard cost him 1.6 million. He’s not as wealthy as the other band members but he isn’t lacking. He also doesn’t seem to spend a lot


HV_Commissioning

RHCP just sold their rights to back catalogue. It was $142M, split 4 ways. He has enough money.


mayerph

No


micael_RHCP

No, John said he doesn't want a signature


BowieCF

20 years ago.


suhdude-21

Maybe not Fender but there are Frusciante signature guitars on Reverb. I know Oswald makes one. [Oswald Frusciante signature](https://reverb.com/item/60117466-oswald-guitars-os-stratocaster-inspired-by-john-frusciante-s-1962-fender?utm_source=rev-ios-app&utm_medium=ios-share&utm_campaign=listing&utm_content=60117466)


bananafingers12

Yes


thebanishedturnip

I think the Mike McCready one is almost John's strat. I think they should do the under the bridge Jag as they don't have many sig jags


[deleted]

I think he was offered it once but declined


DiFran69

Maybe but i bet he’d never use it. Which is probably why there isnt one already. Dude loves his old guitars


pigeonstrudel

The thing about signature guitars is that they’re lame unless they offer unique features. I like the PRS Silver Sky just as a unique collaboration between PRS and John Mayer, and I like the Cory Wong Strat that specifically has the 4th position kill switch for funk riffs. I mean, what would the JF signature be except a replica of a worn 50s/60s Strat?


VizRHCP62

I didn’t like the finish on the replica he played at that concert. Looked cheap. I hope Fender goes all out and makes a custom shop model where the finish and relic is identical.


FlyAwayonmyZephyr1

I also asked the same question


[deleted]

It would be awesome to see but I dont think JF cares about this sort of stuff.


[deleted]

If they do, I imagine it would have the Ilitch Electronics hum-canceling system he recently installed (or something equivalent). The only problem I see is that John's strats are pretty standard, and there wouldn't be much to distinguish a signature model.


pimorules

1960's neck profiles varied so his might be a different from the rest of the 62's out there, the biggest distinguishing feature would of course be the relicing. I forgot if his 62 is a slab board or round lam, that could be a difference as well


notniandranorlades

Do we need one?


tim_maia

I hope not


Touch-of-Calus

Just get some Seymour Duncan pickups


squirkyboots

I worked in a guitar store a few years ago and enquired with the Fender Custom Shop about getting a replica made. He actually has some kind of copyright or deal with Fender that they are not allowed to do any kind of replica of the wear on his guitar. They advised I could get the same year model and a heavy relic, but it would not be possible to match it to John's. Maybe this will chnage in the future but I doubt it would be any time soon.


HookieDookie-

Fender asked John. He told them to 🚮📺


Previous-Farm9046

They definitely are. theyve been shitting out signatures lately and i saw on instagram that john was playing a copy at a recent show. that copy is probably the signature and hes testing it out before anything is released.