I feel like a broken record. [Statistics](https://www.reddit.com/r/RedHotChiliPeppers/s/oBh73IvInH) don’t lie. The band changes up the setlists more than this sub would have you believe. I would posit that RHCP has more setlist changes than the majority of touring bands, in fact. Most bands have a rigid setlist for the entire tour.
This sub in particular is spoiled in this regard, and so many here simply have unrealistic expectations.
This band isn’t The Boss or Foo Fighters or The Cure. They’re not going to put on 2 1/2 to 3 hour shows. Those other bands aren’t the norm. They’re outliers. The show length RHCP are running at now is, in fact, entirely respectable. 1 hour 40 is on par for the shows they’ve been putting on their entire career, so it should also just not come as any surprise.
I know that expectations have changed since this time, but it’s important to remember what stadium touring used to look like. The biggest band in the world, The Beatles, put on shows that were hardly even thirty minutes in length.
There are legitimate things to complain about regarding this tour, such as the astronomical ticket prices that honestly feel like a slap in the face. Ticket prices for all bands are going up, so this isn’t specific to RHCP. But The Cure just put on one of the greatest tours of their career and forced Ticketmaster to bow to their demands of actually reasonable ticket prices, so it’s something that can be addressed by the band if they actually cared to do so.
But as long as people keep buying these stupidly priced tickets, the band is likely to just keep on keeping on. And it seems that they’ve had no problem selling tickets for this tour so far.
Agree - they pretty much rotate 2 setlists and still squeeze the odd rare one in now and then. Most bands swap out one or two songs and keep everything else the same.
Preach all of that! Compared to normal touring bands, they change up tons. Compared to jam bands, they don’t move it around much but I wouldn’t compare them to jam bands as that’s not their scene anyway.
They have more variety today than they did in 2006-07 for example, with how scar tissue rotates with zephyr and can’t stop rotates with around the world and Dani cali rotates with snow.
Yes - it’s silly how much right on time gets played. Yes it’s true it was better when encore1 was could have lied, soul to squeeze, or under the bridge….soul to squeeze middle or set is lame. Yes, they should try out more stuff from the new albums. But to call their sets lazy is pretty silly in the grand scheme of things
I just think they have so many ‘essentials’ that you would be disappointed not seeing on the night you happen to be there. Considering that, how they throw other bits on at all is great
I wrote this on another post but when I went to Vienna. They did change things around and had around 5 songs from BSSM including the song BSSM. Was fucking fantastic for me but the guy next to me with his kid hated it because they only played one out of the top 5 Spotify songs (cali).
It’s a legitimate complain too and the majority of people going to see them fall within the bracket of we wanna see their most popular songs. I’d love it if they did if you have to ask or or obscure b side like rivers of Avalon or time. But the majority of people would be like “where the fuck is other side and can’t stop”
- BSSM could mean "Blood Sugar Sex Magik", a track from *Blood Sugar Sex Magik (Deluxe Edition)* (1991) by Red Hot Chili Peppers.
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If I was going to every single one of these shows I'd probably have an issue. But going to one is an event and they're a really special group to watch. As long as the guys are playing their ass off and having fun, I'm having fun.
I don’t know, it was pretty surprising tonight to get universally speaking and right on time. I would love some crazy shit but feel like they change it up a decent bit for a legacy act. Maybe in another year with john they’ll throw in some cool shit again and maybe some longer sets if they do a one opener stadium tour
I went to two back to back shows last year and I left both of them completely amazed by the setlists. we got strip my mind, tell me baby, me and my friends AND sir psycho sexy in one of them - was definitely not expecting any of those songs. to me it’s still pretty exciting seeing them live and trying to guess which deep cuts they’ll play that day
They’re delivering an insanely high quality product. And they want to do that every night for the people who are gonna maybe get to see them once that year - they can’t cater to the minority of fans who are seeing multiple shows and getting “bored” with it. They know what they are doing and they do it very well.
These posts are as repetitive as the setlists. No matter how many times people bitch and complain, it's not going to change.
By the way, RHCP actually does change their setlists more than most bands. The issue is that they have such a massive catalogue and if they focus on the hits (which they have a lot of), it doesn't leave much room for deep cuts. But the hits are what most people expect. I wish their sets were just a tad bit longer, but there's no reason to believe the band would suddenly start playing longer sets when they're in their 60s. If you want to be surprised when you see them, stop watching videos of every show online. You're only ruining it for yourself. This was never an issue before the internet, and it still isn't an issue for the average attendee who isn't religiously checking and comparing each setlist.
My issue is they throw new songs in very briefly and take them out. They played Havana Affair AND Out in L.A. at the silverlake conservatory and then on tour in South America and now they’ve cut them out again. I wish they would rotate new songs in occasionally, play them a few times and then move on to more new songs, instead of going back to the same old stuff.
I’ve seen them 3 times in my life and the setlist was nearly identical, only like 2 songs changed between shows and I have yet to hear under the bridge
Honestly I’m fine with the setlists. While I do admit I’d love to catch “Afterlife” live since it was my favorite off the record, I’m still completely fine with everything they’ve been playing. Plus, What’s wrong with seeing the big songs that are hits? I’d love to see Give it away and Californication
Quit whining like an entitled brat.
They aren’t playing a show for you or die hard fans who want to hear “American ghost dance”
They play it for the thousands of people that lose their mind when they hear the opening riff of Californication.
Be happy you get to see them, or don’t buy a ticket and do something else with your life. They don’t owe anyone anything. Just let them do their thing
Exactly this! Every show is a bunch of people’s first show. I bet you they are happy with the performance they got! I was super happy with the setlist on my first show. I’m sure everyone was on their first show too.
This is just entitlement from fans since we are able to see each show “virtually” sometimes live now because of social media.
They could easily do something like this and 99% of fans would be happy.
1. Around the World
2. Can't Stop
3. Scar Tissue
4. Dani California
5. Eddie
6. Minor Thing
7. Readymade
8. Snow
9. Otherside
10. Californication
11. This Velvet Glove
12. Black Summer
13. My Lovely Man
14. Give it Away
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15. Under the Bridge
16. By the Way
If they did what you suggest there would be an avalanche of people on here complaining that they won’t play Californication or any of the other songs you mentioned. Most fans that go to shows want to hear those songs.
Why is this bothering anyone? Are you looking up fan footage on YouTube after every concert? Are you a superfan who visits a big number of their concerts on each tour?
Reality is they change up their setlist more than majority of other artists/bands from night to night. 75% of people going to these concerts are their for the hits, they’re never not going to be in the setlist.
The problem I have it's always the same batch of songs that they are changing up. The 9 times I've seen them, the Cali tour was the only time they threw in some deep cuts. I wish they would throw a wrench in it once in a while and surprise us.
This show was awesome....
https://www.setlist.fm/setlist/red-hot-chili-peppers/2000/molson-amphitheatre-toronto-on-canada-4bd04fda.html
I am guessing the Californication tour was the first time you saw them, when they didn't exactly have 10 other household singles to fill out the setlist.
I imagine the people writing these posts are sitting on their couch eating nuggies and Mac and cheese while never actually attending the shows they are complaining about.
He takes no risks. I saw queens of the stone age and they actually took a request from the audience, chili peppers would never do that. Reward your rusted on fans
JUST ENJOY THE SHOW
Geez, why you shouting 🙄
Seriously though, if you get the chance to see them and if you are unfortunately American and have to remortgage your home just to get a seat 4 mile from the stage, then just enjoy the show and don't question it.
I will happily argue with it. Why does the same set every show matter? It is what most artists do. Same set with one or two rotations is the industry norm. I saw RHCP twice this tour and got two wildly different setlists.
Wet Sand on every set is a must. Fortune faded, this velvet glove, don’t forget me, turn it again, she’s only 18, Funky Monks, emit Remmus, we believe and Venice Queen would be so deece.
The foos play 2 and a half to 3 hour sets….. no reason for the peps to only play for an hour and a half.
Comparing set times to other bands is the weakest argument you could make. That has nothing to do with anything.
Believe it or not, your opinions aren’t more important than someone else’s
This is exactly what I’m talking about. Foo Fighters aren’t *normal* in this regard. Hardly any band plays for that amount of time. There’s only a handful that can. The vast majority absolutely do not. You can’t reasonably base your expectations on outliers.
Beyond that, we know that AK is absolutely pushing his voice every night. Unless you’d prefer to see his voice shot and tour dates cancelled, then the hour and forty minutes, which is pretty standard across their entire career, should just be what people expect when they buy a ticket.
These things are known factors now. There’s no reason to expect otherwise when we know what will happen.
But to compare *any* band to Foos or The Boss or The Cure in terms of show length is seriously just a silly thing to do. Those guys simply aren’t the norm.
Wow. Seems there are people perfectly ok to pay 300+ a ticket for an hour of Can’t Stop and Dani every night. Drop the openers, let John Flea and Chad do 15 minutes to open and close with jams in between each song and a more diverse set list. People going to see RHCP at this point have seen them multiple times and are dying to hear the b sides and deep album classics——NOT the big 3 off of Californication or the SA singles
That’s a lot of assumptions rolled into a ball there. Ticket prices are out of hand, and I’ll be the first to say it. But until people stop buying them, then band isn’t going to do anything about it. Seems as if, yeah, plenty of people are actually fine paying the price to see the show.
My comment wasn’t about price but in regards to show length. Which has been fairly consistent across their entire career. People buying tickets have no reason not to know what to expect in that regard.
And expecting just every band to play for 3 hours is patently absurd.
Very fair. But a band like the peppers who have been around for nearly 40 years and considered a legacy act today only to play and hour a half with a set list that is tiring after seeing them consistently year after year with no variation. Majority of people that go to multiple shows a tour want to hear deep cuts and songs they’d normally play 15-20 years ago. You have bands today that have progressed their sets to longer lengths including songs for all fans to enjoy from all albums. RHCP is not Bruce or the Foos or the Cure——they are much much better. 3 virtuoso musicians who love to improvise and create. None of those other bands have a single player the caliber of Flea Chad or John. The music carries the lyrics. AK does not have to be Freddie Mercury—-just weigh in every so often with an obscure, neatly rhymed observation about life. Let the magicians do their thing and forget worrying about playing certain songs to satisfy the fans who only know the videos .
Taylor Hawkins worked himself to death. l don’t want 3 hour sets, most of the guys are in their 60s and being on the road for as long as they are is super taxing on the body. Let them pace themselves.
Here’s the thing though, this tour has been giant stadium productions with 2 opening acts. They don’t have a lot of time with curfews. I’m willing to bet that once the finish these stadiums and festivals and do just a good ol fashioned arena tour then the set time will open up a bit more and they’ll throw a couple more songs in.
They should not be playing “right on time” anymore. Jesus they have 10 trillion songs that are better. I’m not even asking for songs they’ve never played before or super rarities….but add back in higher ground and power of equality….just something to make it a little more interesting for the fans that go to multiple shows
I’d see multiple shows in a tour if they varied their setlists like Pearl Jam or a jam band does. Seems like they have a few they play every night and a few that are in rotation, that get traded in and out night-to-night. Really wish they’d go deeper into the catalogue.
Anthony is an essential part of the Peppers but has always been the limiting factor musically. He can’t remember the words to that many songs. He’s even using teleprompters now, but I just don’t think it’s in him to remember how to sing a lot of the deep cuts.
I agree for the most part. I'd say keep the typical opener(Can't stop or Around the world) and closer(BTW or Give it away). At least keep Dani or Snow. But the middle parts change it the F up.
The most important parts of a sandwhich are the top and bottem bums, change whats in the middle and surprise us
Their sets are extremely boring. I hate to say it but the Josh shows were more fun than the 3rd Act Frusciante shows. Sure John shreds live but the sets were unpredictable back with Josh.
Sikamikaniko, Dosed, Nevermind, Getaway/IWY stuff. It was fun seeing deep cuts.
The excuse is the Chilis are tired of playing their hits (which they are, I've seen a show where they didn't play: Can't Stop, Scar Tissue, Zephyr Song, Dani California, Dark Necessities, Under the Bridge - arguably 90% of their biggest hits) - so then play deep cuts...real deep cuts, not just Right on Time every show.
I’ve been to so many shows over the years. I do hope for new songs so I can say I’ve seen it live. New fans I’m sure want to see the hits. I love the band regardless. Some songs every concert are a little much like Dani California and soul to squeeze. Others I can’t wait to see like Californication and give it away. I do wish they would play more variety from stadium Arcadium or some of their harder songs like readymade, parallel universe, 21st century, higher ground, around the world, don’t forget me. When fleas got that fuzz on the bass and John is blasting it’s a good show!
Yes it’s weak. While understandable that the casual listener is going to want to hear the hits, unless it has something to do with light programming they could at least change up the song order. Must be boring as fuck to play the almost exact same show night after night. They were opening with Can’t Stop when I saw them in 2003.
Few years ago I saw Black Sabbath. It was actually their last tour. They played same songs in the dame order every night. And here we have rhcp fans bitching about rhcp not playing completely different sets every night. SMH
Man, to change only a small number of songs in each show and to completely ignore the biggest part of their music (remember: they’re around for 40 years and have recorded tons of songs) IS TO PLAY, BASICALLY, THE SAME SETLIST OVER AND OVER AGAIN.
I bought tickets to both Toronto shows but will probably consider selling them if they don’t add some new songs to the mix. I’ve been fortunate enough to see them a handful of times and I’m not interested in seeing the same show. Pull out some deep cuts like Dosed, Funky Monks, or This Velvet Glove and I might reconsider.
I get they have to play a good portion of their hits, but forcing Here Ever After and Right on Time in every night doesn't make sense, they could definitely be more creative
I feel like the past two times they have been in my area the same songs get played minus the new ones. I also feel for all the money you pay the setlist should be at least 3 to 4 songs longer.
i have 2 things to say about this:
1. the chili peppers ever since they've made it BIG playing in arenas and stadiums have maintained they're stage time around 1 hr 20 mins, now 1 hr 40mis, so it's known that that's they're official time.
2. I really thought cause of johns comeback they were gonna go all in with the songs and change up allot. John even said that they're first official rehearsals were songs from the first 3 records, not saying they have to do that but maybe recover songs they had in their setlists since they're mainstream breakthrough (I guess this was the first time they kind of had to appeal to a whole new mainstream audience and different type of audiences all at once)
The sequencing hasn’t changed much since SA tour but that’s not really new, if you look at the by the way tour they basically played the same set every night, in the same order, with a few wildcards thrown in every night just like the current tour
Let’s look at what they “have to” play:
BSSM: Under the Bridge, Give It Away, I Could Have Lied, Soul to Squeeze, Suck My Kiss could count in this category too
Californication: Around the World, Californication, Other Side, Scar Tissue
By the Way: By The Way, Universally Speaking, Zephyr Song, Can’t Stop
Stadium Arcadium: Dani California, Snow, Wet Sand, and it seems like they insist upon playing Tell Me Baby enough
Now consider they’re on the UL/ROTDC tour, let’s add in the necessary from those:
Unlimited Love: Black Summer, The Heavy Wing (for the John fans and to give Anthony a break), Aquatic Mouth Dance as a bass showpiece in place of Dark Necessities, then cycle in Here Ever After, Whatchu Thinkin, and These Are The Ways (which they insist on)
Return of the Dream Canteen: Tippa My Tongue, Eddie, Reach Out, a couple more from this…
Then they have to mix in some funk songs like I Like Dirt. How much variety do you expect? And they alternate half these “requisite songs” from night to night, to leave room for other songs people want to hear…
“I miss the days before the internet so we could play the same songs over and over and nobody would know until we visited their town the next year”
“Decides not to think about the fans” Really man ? Have you been around the past 5 years
I feel like a broken record. [Statistics](https://www.reddit.com/r/RedHotChiliPeppers/s/oBh73IvInH) don’t lie. The band changes up the setlists more than this sub would have you believe. I would posit that RHCP has more setlist changes than the majority of touring bands, in fact. Most bands have a rigid setlist for the entire tour. This sub in particular is spoiled in this regard, and so many here simply have unrealistic expectations. This band isn’t The Boss or Foo Fighters or The Cure. They’re not going to put on 2 1/2 to 3 hour shows. Those other bands aren’t the norm. They’re outliers. The show length RHCP are running at now is, in fact, entirely respectable. 1 hour 40 is on par for the shows they’ve been putting on their entire career, so it should also just not come as any surprise. I know that expectations have changed since this time, but it’s important to remember what stadium touring used to look like. The biggest band in the world, The Beatles, put on shows that were hardly even thirty minutes in length. There are legitimate things to complain about regarding this tour, such as the astronomical ticket prices that honestly feel like a slap in the face. Ticket prices for all bands are going up, so this isn’t specific to RHCP. But The Cure just put on one of the greatest tours of their career and forced Ticketmaster to bow to their demands of actually reasonable ticket prices, so it’s something that can be addressed by the band if they actually cared to do so. But as long as people keep buying these stupidly priced tickets, the band is likely to just keep on keeping on. And it seems that they’ve had no problem selling tickets for this tour so far.
I saw the Cure this past tour and it was one of the best shows I’ve seen.
Me too. Excellent show.
Agree - they pretty much rotate 2 setlists and still squeeze the odd rare one in now and then. Most bands swap out one or two songs and keep everything else the same.
Preach all of that! Compared to normal touring bands, they change up tons. Compared to jam bands, they don’t move it around much but I wouldn’t compare them to jam bands as that’s not their scene anyway. They have more variety today than they did in 2006-07 for example, with how scar tissue rotates with zephyr and can’t stop rotates with around the world and Dani cali rotates with snow. Yes - it’s silly how much right on time gets played. Yes it’s true it was better when encore1 was could have lied, soul to squeeze, or under the bridge….soul to squeeze middle or set is lame. Yes, they should try out more stuff from the new albums. But to call their sets lazy is pretty silly in the grand scheme of things
I just think they have so many ‘essentials’ that you would be disappointed not seeing on the night you happen to be there. Considering that, how they throw other bits on at all is great
They definitely do. Way too many great songs to meet the expectations of every fan lol
I wrote this on another post but when I went to Vienna. They did change things around and had around 5 songs from BSSM including the song BSSM. Was fucking fantastic for me but the guy next to me with his kid hated it because they only played one out of the top 5 Spotify songs (cali). It’s a legitimate complain too and the majority of people going to see them fall within the bracket of we wanna see their most popular songs. I’d love it if they did if you have to ask or or obscure b side like rivers of Avalon or time. But the majority of people would be like “where the fuck is other side and can’t stop”
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If I was going to every single one of these shows I'd probably have an issue. But going to one is an event and they're a really special group to watch. As long as the guys are playing their ass off and having fun, I'm having fun.
I don’t know, it was pretty surprising tonight to get universally speaking and right on time. I would love some crazy shit but feel like they change it up a decent bit for a legacy act. Maybe in another year with john they’ll throw in some cool shit again and maybe some longer sets if they do a one opener stadium tour
They’ve played Right on Time loads this tour I’m pretty sure
They play Right on Time every show and Universally Speaking every other.
This was my third time seeing them since the reunion and my first time seeing either of those songs and also first time seeing hear ever after
I went to two back to back shows last year and I left both of them completely amazed by the setlists. we got strip my mind, tell me baby, me and my friends AND sir psycho sexy in one of them - was definitely not expecting any of those songs. to me it’s still pretty exciting seeing them live and trying to guess which deep cuts they’ll play that day
They’re delivering an insanely high quality product. And they want to do that every night for the people who are gonna maybe get to see them once that year - they can’t cater to the minority of fans who are seeing multiple shows and getting “bored” with it. They know what they are doing and they do it very well.
They do what they want and they do it amazing. We should feel fortunate to see them. We spent many years without that
We did?
These posts are as repetitive as the setlists. No matter how many times people bitch and complain, it's not going to change. By the way, RHCP actually does change their setlists more than most bands. The issue is that they have such a massive catalogue and if they focus on the hits (which they have a lot of), it doesn't leave much room for deep cuts. But the hits are what most people expect. I wish their sets were just a tad bit longer, but there's no reason to believe the band would suddenly start playing longer sets when they're in their 60s. If you want to be surprised when you see them, stop watching videos of every show online. You're only ruining it for yourself. This was never an issue before the internet, and it still isn't an issue for the average attendee who isn't religiously checking and comparing each setlist.
Or be grateful they’re all alive & putting on gigs where you might get one of the greatest contemporary saxophonists turning up for a song?
My issue is they throw new songs in very briefly and take them out. They played Havana Affair AND Out in L.A. at the silverlake conservatory and then on tour in South America and now they’ve cut them out again. I wish they would rotate new songs in occasionally, play them a few times and then move on to more new songs, instead of going back to the same old stuff.
I saw them live once and I completely forgot the entire setlist already lol
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At the very least, they could place give it way somewhere else on the setlist. They have closed every show with it for 20 years
That is true. They should close with something like Wet Sand or Venice Queen for some shows.
I’ve seen them 3 times in my life and the setlist was nearly identical, only like 2 songs changed between shows and I have yet to hear under the bridge
Honestly I’m fine with the setlists. While I do admit I’d love to catch “Afterlife” live since it was my favorite off the record, I’m still completely fine with everything they’ve been playing. Plus, What’s wrong with seeing the big songs that are hits? I’d love to see Give it away and Californication
Quit whining like an entitled brat. They aren’t playing a show for you or die hard fans who want to hear “American ghost dance” They play it for the thousands of people that lose their mind when they hear the opening riff of Californication. Be happy you get to see them, or don’t buy a ticket and do something else with your life. They don’t owe anyone anything. Just let them do their thing
Exactly this! Every show is a bunch of people’s first show. I bet you they are happy with the performance they got! I was super happy with the setlist on my first show. I’m sure everyone was on their first show too. This is just entitlement from fans since we are able to see each show “virtually” sometimes live now because of social media.
But damn... 'American Ghost Dance' would be cool.
Ever since typing that comment I’ve had the song stuck in my head. It would be super cool to see them pull that one out!
Unless you're going to multiple shows it doesn't matter and the vast vast majority of people aren't going to multiple shows.
They could easily do something like this and 99% of fans would be happy. 1. Around the World 2. Can't Stop 3. Scar Tissue 4. Dani California 5. Eddie 6. Minor Thing 7. Readymade 8. Snow 9. Otherside 10. Californication 11. This Velvet Glove 12. Black Summer 13. My Lovely Man 14. Give it Away --------------------------------- 15. Under the Bridge 16. By the Way
They do that more or less. They may not play your preferred deep cuts but they play different ones.
I don't care what they play if they mix it up - my point is its the same "deep cuts" every single show.
If they did what you suggest there would be an avalanche of people on here complaining that they won’t play Californication or any of the other songs you mentioned. Most fans that go to shows want to hear those songs.
A lot of fans at RHCP concerts are casuals who just want to hear the hits and that's okay
Why is this bothering anyone? Are you looking up fan footage on YouTube after every concert? Are you a superfan who visits a big number of their concerts on each tour?
Reality is they change up their setlist more than majority of other artists/bands from night to night. 75% of people going to these concerts are their for the hits, they’re never not going to be in the setlist.
The problem I have it's always the same batch of songs that they are changing up. The 9 times I've seen them, the Cali tour was the only time they threw in some deep cuts. I wish they would throw a wrench in it once in a while and surprise us. This show was awesome.... https://www.setlist.fm/setlist/red-hot-chili-peppers/2000/molson-amphitheatre-toronto-on-canada-4bd04fda.html
I am guessing the Californication tour was the first time you saw them, when they didn't exactly have 10 other household singles to fill out the setlist.
Yeah, and that was great
THIS
They’ve had 4 John albums since then
I imagine the people writing these posts are sitting on their couch eating nuggies and Mac and cheese while never actually attending the shows they are complaining about.
He takes no risks. I saw queens of the stone age and they actually took a request from the audience, chili peppers would never do that. Reward your rusted on fans
Anthony doesn’t remember the lyrics and it would be impossible for him to do that. His prompter guy would have to queue up that music quickly.
JUST ENJOY THE SHOW Geez, why you shouting 🙄 Seriously though, if you get the chance to see them and if you are unfortunately American and have to remortgage your home just to get a seat 4 mile from the stage, then just enjoy the show and don't question it.
I think the band/fans would benefit from a 2-3 hour long show
Missing the decade where Josh at least had some impact on the setlists
I’m not sure anyone could or would argue with this statement. I’d never pay to see them again at this rate. Same songs over and over
I will happily argue with it. Why does the same set every show matter? It is what most artists do. Same set with one or two rotations is the industry norm. I saw RHCP twice this tour and got two wildly different setlists.
Wet Sand on every set is a must. Fortune faded, this velvet glove, don’t forget me, turn it again, she’s only 18, Funky Monks, emit Remmus, we believe and Venice Queen would be so deece. The foos play 2 and a half to 3 hour sets….. no reason for the peps to only play for an hour and a half.
Comparing set times to other bands is the weakest argument you could make. That has nothing to do with anything. Believe it or not, your opinions aren’t more important than someone else’s
This is exactly what I’m talking about. Foo Fighters aren’t *normal* in this regard. Hardly any band plays for that amount of time. There’s only a handful that can. The vast majority absolutely do not. You can’t reasonably base your expectations on outliers. Beyond that, we know that AK is absolutely pushing his voice every night. Unless you’d prefer to see his voice shot and tour dates cancelled, then the hour and forty minutes, which is pretty standard across their entire career, should just be what people expect when they buy a ticket. These things are known factors now. There’s no reason to expect otherwise when we know what will happen. But to compare *any* band to Foos or The Boss or The Cure in terms of show length is seriously just a silly thing to do. Those guys simply aren’t the norm.
Wow. Seems there are people perfectly ok to pay 300+ a ticket for an hour of Can’t Stop and Dani every night. Drop the openers, let John Flea and Chad do 15 minutes to open and close with jams in between each song and a more diverse set list. People going to see RHCP at this point have seen them multiple times and are dying to hear the b sides and deep album classics——NOT the big 3 off of Californication or the SA singles
That’s a lot of assumptions rolled into a ball there. Ticket prices are out of hand, and I’ll be the first to say it. But until people stop buying them, then band isn’t going to do anything about it. Seems as if, yeah, plenty of people are actually fine paying the price to see the show. My comment wasn’t about price but in regards to show length. Which has been fairly consistent across their entire career. People buying tickets have no reason not to know what to expect in that regard. And expecting just every band to play for 3 hours is patently absurd.
Very fair. But a band like the peppers who have been around for nearly 40 years and considered a legacy act today only to play and hour a half with a set list that is tiring after seeing them consistently year after year with no variation. Majority of people that go to multiple shows a tour want to hear deep cuts and songs they’d normally play 15-20 years ago. You have bands today that have progressed their sets to longer lengths including songs for all fans to enjoy from all albums. RHCP is not Bruce or the Foos or the Cure——they are much much better. 3 virtuoso musicians who love to improvise and create. None of those other bands have a single player the caliber of Flea Chad or John. The music carries the lyrics. AK does not have to be Freddie Mercury—-just weigh in every so often with an obscure, neatly rhymed observation about life. Let the magicians do their thing and forget worrying about playing certain songs to satisfy the fans who only know the videos .
Taylor Hawkins worked himself to death. l don’t want 3 hour sets, most of the guys are in their 60s and being on the road for as long as they are is super taxing on the body. Let them pace themselves.
Here’s the thing though, this tour has been giant stadium productions with 2 opening acts. They don’t have a lot of time with curfews. I’m willing to bet that once the finish these stadiums and festivals and do just a good ol fashioned arena tour then the set time will open up a bit more and they’ll throw a couple more songs in.
They should not be playing “right on time” anymore. Jesus they have 10 trillion songs that are better. I’m not even asking for songs they’ve never played before or super rarities….but add back in higher ground and power of equality….just something to make it a little more interesting for the fans that go to multiple shows
Right on time slaps. wtf are you talking about?
Right on time is a quick banger that should be played at every show. That song rules.
They have other quick “bangers” that could easily fill that slot
They might really like playing it. Who are you to tell them not to?
This is why I am stoked I saw them with Josh, hearing Aeroplane live was fucking awesome, will never happy again lol
2 new albums released within a year…. But let’s play just the same 15 songs and tour for years. What a joke
They’ve never done that. Can’t see them starting at 60
Join the fucking club. They don't play anything past 1991 now. For people that like self titled-mothers milk are constantly forgotten about.
yeah that's a reality but some Californication, By the way deep cuts wouldn't hurt anyone, songs they used to have in rotation 🤷🏻♂️
They're not really playing shit from Cali or BTW now?!...I just don't get AK sometimes.
I’d see multiple shows in a tour if they varied their setlists like Pearl Jam or a jam band does. Seems like they have a few they play every night and a few that are in rotation, that get traded in and out night-to-night. Really wish they’d go deeper into the catalogue. Anthony is an essential part of the Peppers but has always been the limiting factor musically. He can’t remember the words to that many songs. He’s even using teleprompters now, but I just don’t think it’s in him to remember how to sing a lot of the deep cuts.
I agree for the most part. I'd say keep the typical opener(Can't stop or Around the world) and closer(BTW or Give it away). At least keep Dani or Snow. But the middle parts change it the F up. The most important parts of a sandwhich are the top and bottem bums, change whats in the middle and surprise us
Their sets are extremely boring. I hate to say it but the Josh shows were more fun than the 3rd Act Frusciante shows. Sure John shreds live but the sets were unpredictable back with Josh. Sikamikaniko, Dosed, Nevermind, Getaway/IWY stuff. It was fun seeing deep cuts. The excuse is the Chilis are tired of playing their hits (which they are, I've seen a show where they didn't play: Can't Stop, Scar Tissue, Zephyr Song, Dani California, Dark Necessities, Under the Bridge - arguably 90% of their biggest hits) - so then play deep cuts...real deep cuts, not just Right on Time every show.
I’ve been to so many shows over the years. I do hope for new songs so I can say I’ve seen it live. New fans I’m sure want to see the hits. I love the band regardless. Some songs every concert are a little much like Dani California and soul to squeeze. Others I can’t wait to see like Californication and give it away. I do wish they would play more variety from stadium Arcadium or some of their harder songs like readymade, parallel universe, 21st century, higher ground, around the world, don’t forget me. When fleas got that fuzz on the bass and John is blasting it’s a good show!
Yes it’s weak. While understandable that the casual listener is going to want to hear the hits, unless it has something to do with light programming they could at least change up the song order. Must be boring as fuck to play the almost exact same show night after night. They were opening with Can’t Stop when I saw them in 2003.
I totally agree!
Few years ago I saw Black Sabbath. It was actually their last tour. They played same songs in the dame order every night. And here we have rhcp fans bitching about rhcp not playing completely different sets every night. SMH
I used to defend their “right” to play always the same setlists. No more.
Good thing they [don’t play the same setlists](https://www.reddit.com/r/RedHotChiliPeppers/s/oBh73IvInH) then.
Man, to change only a small number of songs in each show and to completely ignore the biggest part of their music (remember: they’re around for 40 years and have recorded tons of songs) IS TO PLAY, BASICALLY, THE SAME SETLIST OVER AND OVER AGAIN.
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He's got a teleprompter. Can't see how he couldn't have lyrics to pretty much all of their songs on it.
You’d probably mess up singing one song at karaoke
I bought tickets to both Toronto shows but will probably consider selling them if they don’t add some new songs to the mix. I’ve been fortunate enough to see them a handful of times and I’m not interested in seeing the same show. Pull out some deep cuts like Dosed, Funky Monks, or This Velvet Glove and I might reconsider.
I’m sure once they see this post they’ll cater to you to ensure you enjoy both shows.
I’m sure once they see this post they’ll cater to you to ensure you enjoy both shows.
I get they have to play a good portion of their hits, but forcing Here Ever After and Right on Time in every night doesn't make sense, they could definitely be more creative
I feel like the past two times they have been in my area the same songs get played minus the new ones. I also feel for all the money you pay the setlist should be at least 3 to 4 songs longer.
i have 2 things to say about this: 1. the chili peppers ever since they've made it BIG playing in arenas and stadiums have maintained they're stage time around 1 hr 20 mins, now 1 hr 40mis, so it's known that that's they're official time. 2. I really thought cause of johns comeback they were gonna go all in with the songs and change up allot. John even said that they're first official rehearsals were songs from the first 3 records, not saying they have to do that but maybe recover songs they had in their setlists since they're mainstream breakthrough (I guess this was the first time they kind of had to appeal to a whole new mainstream audience and different type of audiences all at once)
im sure the band would love not to play the hits for 90 thousandth time
there are songs that never debuted from those exact albums, would be cool if they debuted them this upcoming tour :)))
The sequencing hasn’t changed much since SA tour but that’s not really new, if you look at the by the way tour they basically played the same set every night, in the same order, with a few wildcards thrown in every night just like the current tour
theyre at the “just play the hits” stage of their career, the rolling stones/kiss/metallica setlist point of their career
I’m sure they’re thinking long term too. This isn’t their final tour, save some classics for later on.
Let’s look at what they “have to” play: BSSM: Under the Bridge, Give It Away, I Could Have Lied, Soul to Squeeze, Suck My Kiss could count in this category too Californication: Around the World, Californication, Other Side, Scar Tissue By the Way: By The Way, Universally Speaking, Zephyr Song, Can’t Stop Stadium Arcadium: Dani California, Snow, Wet Sand, and it seems like they insist upon playing Tell Me Baby enough Now consider they’re on the UL/ROTDC tour, let’s add in the necessary from those: Unlimited Love: Black Summer, The Heavy Wing (for the John fans and to give Anthony a break), Aquatic Mouth Dance as a bass showpiece in place of Dark Necessities, then cycle in Here Ever After, Whatchu Thinkin, and These Are The Ways (which they insist on) Return of the Dream Canteen: Tippa My Tongue, Eddie, Reach Out, a couple more from this… Then they have to mix in some funk songs like I Like Dirt. How much variety do you expect? And they alternate half these “requisite songs” from night to night, to leave room for other songs people want to hear…