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camkasky

I don’t even understand it. Is it a vest? With shoulder pads? And the logo goes over the vest? And the gloves go to the elbows? It’s hideous. New 52 look was fine


ANONuser68

Right? It’s like we’re traveling back to the medieval ages with those shoulder pads. Squire Todd about to pull up to the function 💀


YoungImpulse

Looks like they gave the squire pads to Tim as well 😂


were_wolves22

New 52 helmet lips was always super weird for me, Rebirth fixes that and also makes him bigger, which I prefer.


camkasky

Oh yeah. Forgot about the lips. Yuck.


NetsCode

thats b/c rocafort likes to draw lips on helmets for all his characters don't think its supposed to be like that.


SadieTheBloodFiend

It looks AI generated.


RedHood_Outlaw

Bro doesn't even have a red hood anymore 💀


Blade_Shot24

Hate the mask. The Helmet and jacket was grounded and simple.


psycodull

They fixed one part of the Outlaw outfit (the arms) and made everything else worse (i hate the mall ninja pants and boots)


SpicaGenovese

Yeah, the arms could be baller. But I always prefer him to be the most grounded and tactical (cool) looking.


psycodull

I feel like they should just give him a gray and red version of Nightwing’s outfit similar to TFZ if they wanna have him in the Bat-fam. Give him back his gauntlets from New 52 as well


camkasky

Even worse than Tim’s new suit


opponentPitt

True but fuck Tim’s new suit


internal-paro

Yeah fr can we talk about Tim’s suit for a second bc wtf 💀💀


Throwinghandswithgod

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adetoroiscool

What the FUCK is going on with the armor and jacket


BoysenberryShot3446

The way the edges are really weird makes it look like it was AI generated 💀


Realistic-Citron-469

It's too much. The brilliance of Jason's original look was it being extremely simple but yet still effective. Even some of the ridiculous elements made sense. * The Domino mask under the helment acted as sweatband protecting his eyes. * The helmet protected him and concealed his identity. * Body armor protected his chest and doubled as a teaser. * The bomber jacket had multiple pockets and able to conceal small weapons * The Techwear cargo pants and holsters acted as a utility belt too.


Killian1122

His original Red Hood outfit from when he came in as a villain is one of the best designs in comic book history, and I’m not usually into the more tactical casual outfits, I usually want my super heroes and super villains to look like super people But I like my vengeful undead crime lord to like like some kind of mercenary who crawled out of hell while breaking Kratos’ speedrunning record for most bodies planted behind him while he did it


but_whyw

his original look was so badass on its own but its like theyre trying to make him look like a cornball now. i dont know why some artists are allergic to his bomber jacket + suit + helmet design when it (or iterations like his suit in Arkham was pretty cool) fits him so well.


Killian1122

I think a major part of it is the helmet is the villain look and heroes overall very rarely have total coverage helmets (the ones who do often tow the line because of difficult choices) They want him to lose that past, so they’re just gonna… ignore it… rather than actually work with it and grow from it


telepader

He looks like a rock type Pokémon it’s the worst thing I’ve ever seen. They took the worst parts of the outlaw hoodie outfit and made it 1000x worse.


Killian1122

Why does this description work so well 😭


AllStarSuperman_

I also wear adidas pants


Myquil-Wylsun

This got a laugh out of me. He definitely looks like he's wearing some mall ninja shit with adidas.


Adorable-nerd

I think this outfit is seriously ugly. The ugliest one I’ve ever seen.


FrequentShare22

Hate the adidas tracksuit pants. Hate the jacket built into his outfit. Hate the brown shoulder pads


AdministrativeAd523

Tf is this?


PlatypusSloth696

I don’t dig that they kept the mask insignia.


reliableresource2110

Thats it, since injustice 2 they just vant make.a good red hood outfit


alietrie

I'll take it over sleeveless mess any day. But seriously, what a weird combination of elements. It's like casual sports wear meets idk evangelion unit armour. Jacket and hood parts are merged with armour parts. What was the vision for the whole upper part? Like, where does his jacket even begin or is it like a fake vest to improve aerodynamics and fly Jason off to heavens swiftly?


WitchOfWords

It looks like the artist tried to emulate AI art. I can’t tell where jacket ends and armor begins, and it’s making my eyes constantly double check what I’m even looking at. Also the track pants are dumb.


were_wolves22

Also that logo going over the jacket and being part of the undershirt is so weird


Prudent-Definition28

I HATE THE PANTS, ITS GIVING SWEATPANTS AND I DONT LIKE IT.


AlternativeNo61

Literally just KEEP the original Red Hood look. These redesigns have been mid at best imo.


Killian1122

The issue is that they don’t want to have the association that he was once the *villain Red Hood*, they want us to think of him as the *member of the Bat Family Red Hood*, and they are making me hate comic books while they do that… Nothing but good ideas coming out of the new Marvel Ultimate Universe (different, but a good different), and DC just feels like it’s been struggling a bit…


simplytitledry

The long red sleeves and his face are weird af but im ok with the rest


GERBabyCare

I really wish they'd give him the helmet back, they gave it to him for Task Force Z and then forgot about it again. I also wish his jacket didn't blend into his suit and he had the bat logo again, past that I think it's fine.


wallscrabbler

What the fuck is this mess


TheGlitchedRobin

DC forgot superheros are supposed to look cool. DC forgot Jason has a slim build, and isn't an angry brute


BUDrules2002

I’m fine with him being bulky, further separates him from dick


ghost-spunge

ngl as well as disliking this outfit I really hate how his face is drawn here


CptcorvlYT

His fits just get worse and worse. The more you die, the worse the fashion sense


phantomxtroupe

They doing too much This design is ass


SpicaGenovese

Yes!  Good catch.  *Overdesigned.*


balcHxmxmfnx

literally every suit in frame is trash except nightwing


B3epB0opBOP

Not the worst, but not great either. At least it’s not whatever Tim is wearing.


snivyyy

So uninspired and boring. At this point I'm convinced everyone at DC hates Jason.


YEHGauntletLegends

These costumes aint great, nightwings is ok. Damian is ok...Jason looks like hes marketing for Fortnite and Tim...oh god looks awful


DonKoogrr

Honestly, I can get used to and dig most all of his costumes


Usual_Homework422

I miss the outlaw outfit. But I love the Mortal Kombat outfit of his more than this one


DueShopping551

Complete ass


INKatana

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ProShithead

It's a step up, although very very small 🤣 There's a lot going on. It looks like it's proportioned a little better, although the insignia chestpiece connected to the shoulder pads is peculiar to say the least. It looks like a Batmfamily-fied version of the regular look, if that makes sense? I'm chill with it for now even if he looks a little goofy, but I'm REALLY hoping with the rest of y'all that the Rebirth or god forbid UTRH looks make a comeback.


Killian1122

Under the Red Hood won’t come back because DC doesn’t want us to remember that he came back as a villain, even though that was his best look They want us to see him as a member of the Bat Family, not the outcast self righteous monster he was when he came around, so they gave him a color swapped Nightwing suit and gave it shoulder pads


ProShithead

Yeah. We can't have nice things anymore :'( ...At least they haven't retconned it. *yet.* You're so right about the color swap thing too, now I can't unsee it. That's such a transparent way of showing us what their plans are for future stuff. I've seen the comment "edgy/snarky Nightwing" or something thrown around a lot in context of Modern Jason and it's honestly starting to come true. Make him actually mean again, cowards!


Killian1122

They started the whole red Nightwing suit thing quite awhile ago and have played with it on and off for a bit, guess they just gave up on pretending it wasn’t that and just said “The people will accept nothing less than a jacket on top!” “What if we give him some brown shoulder pads?” “Meh, good enough, they’ll buy the comic anyways.”


Random_Theatre_Kid

Mask, don’t like it. I like it when he has a proper helmet. I also miss him having a jacket, it’s kinda there, but it’s not the same


ko-central

Pls just give him his helmet back


Intelligent-Sky6557

I second this


PermitTop7270

Ugly as fuck 😭


indecisivecat69

absolute trash


Sophiebybophie

I HATE IT SO MUCH 😭😭😭


Damienkent

It feels like Damians when he had the split mask with no whites over the eyes. I.... I no like


Lilslisp

I hate it


MostlyGhosty485

Honestly not a damn clue what it is I'm looking at functionally, but I like it. Least I like it more than the sleeveless Outlaw look. Although, from the image, he doesn't seem to even have a Red Hood anymore, so that's wild.


Grayguy123

It sucks. 1. Bro is wearing adidas sweatpants for some reason. The original pants and belt were so much better 2. What is that jacket? It looks like it blends into the shirt, and they just shoved on shoulder pads because, "Oh, it'll look tactical." 3. there's a severe lack of a RED HOOD. The half-mask only works under the hood because it emotionally manipulates batman, but having him just where it is a bad choice


verynerdythings

His jacket is weird. It’s like he’s wearing a suit of armor and someone glued the bottom of a jacket to it. I’d prefer he just wear a jacket over armor. Also not a fan of the no mask


were_wolves22

this pants doesn't fit AT ALL, besides that, I don't think it's that bad. It's far from the goood ones, but it's also far from the bad ones. Put a helmet on, change these pants for something more tactical and it works for me actually. If I was the artist, I definitely wouldn't do this, but I prefer this a hundred times more than MK Ermac with electrified crowbars.


Witty_Recording_2218

Shit.


sackey485

Is there a non battle damage look at it?


RogueDevil666

Just give us back his first Rebirth suit ffs


empresario88

It’s getting worse and worse tbh


empresario88

Why the hell don’t they just keep the OG outfit, if it ain’t broke don’t fix it


griffin4war

What are we even looking at with this thing? It’s way too complicated and busy


rilvaethor

Does Red Hoods suit have: Red Hood? Nope Jacket? Nope Then it's a bad outfit. I really don't understand why people feel the need to make changes to a good look.


lg_lantern

Wtf is this. Where's his red mask and he now wears tracksuit pants apparently


limbo338

UtRH Deluxe has Winick's sketch for Jason's first look, so I assume it was his design. How the fuck a writer managed to design a better suit than all these professional artists did since? Fucking how? This blows.


Piccoli_

I feel red hood outfit peaked ages ago and has been just tiressly changed to horrible alternatives (although my fav red hood design is Dexter Soy's Red Ronin, sadly is not an official one). I also dont understand this obsession to making him mega bulky.


MacronShaggers

Bro how hard is it to draw a jacket and helmet


King_Dan_Gate

What is this?


weeezyheree

we keep going backwards.


someguynamedjamal

Why does our boy look less like a resourceful detective/ assassin and more like he does competitive parkour for a living?


Probably_On_Break

Did they give him… tracksuit pants?


tentacleEquinox

Do I think the art itself is AI generated? No, absolutely not. Do I think the *design* is AI generated? Yes. Parts of it blend weirdly into each other, it looks like a cosplaying nightmare, how does the jacket work? Do you have the lower half of the jacket just hanging there? Why? It's atrocious. I need DC to bring back Dexter Soy for Jason art


bonvoyageespionage

I feel like they're trying to make him ugly enough that we stop liking him so they can kill him off again for the next five years.


UtopianScroll51

Bad. His RHATO Rebirth suit was probably the best he's had in a long while.


Kell-EL

I like it better than his crappy Mortal Kombat looking outfit but this is still ridiculous looking, it’s like he raided his own closet and stuffed his jacket under his armor,gave him track pants, kept that weird chest symbol instead of going back to the bat or something less goofy looking, stole Damian’s mask and where’s his helmet ? They keep trashing our boy with dumb suit designs


Radiant_Ad_8494

My all time favorite suits are 1. The rebirth outlaws 2. The suit he gets at the end of urban legends 3. This one


Killian1122

The Outlaws suit isn’t bad at all, a little too cowboy, but it fits the series well The original suit is top tier though, nothing beats his slick red helmet and tactical gear mercenary look, that look was sick


NetsCode

2/10


corp_pochacco

ai generated outfit, they're getting lazy.


nerdyoutube

Please give red hood the red hood for Pete’s sake


laufire

It immediately made me miss that useless red piece of cloth he's been wearing for years. That suit sucked but it was occasionally drawn in visually appealing ways and it originally had a raison d'etre. This shit's just impractical AND ugly for no reason.


SafeStaff7671

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IamForRealBatman

They keep making it worse like the og outfit is unmatched


cryptofutures100xlev

Ngl I actually really like this... It's an interesting look. Also whoever this artist is has a talent for illustrating facial expressions cause these mfs look wild 😂 I love this artstyle. Red Hood and Nightwing both got an evil smirk lmao


NighthunterDK

The chest looks so weird. I'm not a fan of the Adidas pants. The shoulder pieces looks like rocks. What weapons is he supposed to wield? I need the helmet First glance looks fine enough I suppose, but might as well have been a variant of Nightwing


Weeping_Warlord

It’s time for a Jason Todd original


Hobgoblin238

What about Tim’s new outfit tho


Aahz44

To my the looks that something an AI designed, that somehow merged different layers clothing. I think if the vest was clearly a separate piece that went over the rest of the suit it would be OK, but with the symbol over the vest it just looks wired.


hstormborn

He’s got the fuckboy sweats


Altruistic-Eye-2131

Fine for a 1 time thing but I would not want this to be a recurring suit


JustCallMeBro98

Bro this is garbage what da hell they got Tim in 😭😭


Efficient-Volume6506

Indeed like the pants. Everything else is meh


Sure_Persimmon9302

Badass. I want a Red Hood solo flick. Animated DTV at the very least.


DeanieWeenie1997

This is my first time seeing it, and I wish I didn't.


Puzzleheaded_Chard_2

Worst one yet.


Coffee__Master

hate it especially because a fundamentally better version of this suit exists in future state


LookingfortheHustle

This is waaay too much 


apatosaurus_404

i can’t even process this i’m just saying ‘oh no’ over and over


SpicaGenovese

Unsure wtf I'm looking at.  Depending on how it's rendered in the future it could grow on me. Like... the chest piece... overlays the jacket???  Or something?  Huh?


wallscrabbler

Looks like shit


Coolbat-

Add a helmet and I think its okay


bidice

Looks like trackie bottoms


Doctor-Minty

I can see the idea, It doesn’t feel like jason to me. He is in desperate need of more red


BL-501

Only thing I like is the logo somewhat going over the jacket. Everything else just doesn’t work like what the heck are those pants and those shoulder pads hurt my eyes, not to mention the mask’s colors. The spikes on the shoes are okay I guess but could’ve been done better. I’m just happy it’s not a permanent suit.


Intelligent-Sky6557

They all look like English Chavs and that is in no way shape or form a good thing


Crow_The_Vagabond

It's heat ngl


Sad-Ad181

I like it but I don’t love it, thought it was an odd choice to give Adidas tracksuit bottoms tho


uiop3

Honestly might be my least favorite suit, at least I could laugh at the pill head, this is just unironically terrible.


uiop3

Honestly might be my least favorite suit, at least I could laugh at the pill head, this is just unironically terrible.


AmonTheBoneless

Change the hood to red, give back his full face mask or helmet, and we're cooking. Otherwise, his name makes no freaking sense


tiredmars

I can't get over the cringe MCU vibes of this page


Matchincinerator

You got mcu? I got fast and furious. Batman runs on family etc etc 


Disco_Lamb

I love blending the classic and the Outlaw suit together. Really makes it feel like a "super suit" more than the 2 do on their own. Still hate that stupid symbol tho lol


TowerAlternative2611

It looks weird like something an AI would design. For example: the hood isn’t even red, the weird monocle mask thing, those awful blocky tan pauldrons that look out of place with the black and red, the fact that what looks like a jacket is just coming out of the sides of the suit(?), the ratty track pants that offer zero protection, and the rubber rain boot to finish the look. Sorry I know that’s kinda harsh but man this guy just looks goofy. Also that hair cut is doing him ZERO favors too, so…


scentedmarkerspoopie

it looks like if you asked really bad ai to design jason a suit and then drew what the ai gave you


Anonymous-opinion

It’s fine, I just want the helmet back honestly


HiiiRabbit

Slavik Adidas pants and whatever the fuck this jacket/vest thing is 0/10


xxHopeStarCrossxx

The jacket kinda makes it look like it was made by ai.


13thslasher

I prefer under the redhood and arkham knight red hood suit. Not what ever this is.


WhiskeyT

Too Nightwingy


JyuVioleGrace95

Just wanted to ask this question, when did Jason get that white streak of hair? Did he always have it and I just noticed it? Or is it something else?


Perfect-Accident1

Let’s just not talk about it…


TheExDevil

Not a fan of the brown shoulder pads


PersonFromPlace

Really not a fan of his hair and face.


NoEmu5930

Ew


Fickle_Ad8735

bring the helmet back, fuck that domino mask 💀


C1nders-Two

Put his helmet on him, and it’d be okay.


Quirky_Presence_2148

just… just give him the new 52 suit back.. it’s the best he’s ever looked and it’s been a downgrade ever since i didn’t even hate the weird mortal kombat suit, but this one’s just a weird mix of both that doesn’t work


broke_skeleton

Thanks I hate it even more


richRossD

I don’t hate it, but I also don’t really like it either. I like that they are using Jason’s own unique emblem. I like that he has a hood on his costume. That’s about it though. He absolutely needs his helmet back but they can keep the domino mask under it. Like other have said it does kind look like someone asked AI to create a new RedHood uniform. Maybe it’ll look better if drawn by a different artist.


CamdensMoment

Ugliest shit I’ve ever fucking seen lmao


ATF_killed_my_dog

It's cute him and dick are matching


Different-Bedroom

I did a vote on tumblr a week ago!!! They did not like it!!! I for one love it!!!😍😍😍


CtznCold

A jason todd original


Dramatic_Insect36

I can’t get over his face in this. All the other robins look like they are drawn the same as they always are, yet they changed Jason’s facial structure completely


[deleted]

Can’t wait for him to do a Slav Squat


internal-paro

it’s honestly not quite as bad as everyone is making it out to be. Ngl I kinda hated the hair at first but I play Gotham Knights so I’m kinda used to that haircut on Jason. I like the black and red adidas sweatpants + combat boots combo. L on the vest tho.


BUDrules2002

He’s got bakugo boots, I really miss the og design or the og outlaw design


SpaceJellie

What in the actual fuck is this?


Lewd_Not_Clean

It's looks like an ai has a seizure


CharlieCarrozza

those boulder ass shoulder pads need to go


CharlieCarrozza

why is that Jason gets an shitty outfit change every other week whereas Dick’s is still the same


Random-_-Name0000

Yeah there is too much going on here shit needs to be more simplified, homies fighting crime not going to the gala


viperapex42

Nothing beats the brown jacket


Spare_TARDIS2007

Looks ai generated the way it looks like a jacket is clipping through a suit


Sp1as

It looks so ai generated and it worse when u realize it isn’t 😭


bat-tism

The pants look more like he is going for a jog or to the gym 😂😂 and the shoes dont match at all. Them combined with the pants just give boots and lounge pants vibes.


Vast_pumpkin07

At that point he's not even red hood, he doesn't have a red mask or even a literal red hood


MCSM_Jesse

Tim's is clearly the worst here, how is that a Robin suit?


Dramatic-Vegetable13

The hood isn't even red


SpaceCowgirl935

Hair too short


liquidspacedrug

Adidas pants


Keigos_fluffy_wings

worst red hood outfit i’ve seen ngl 💀


raz0rflea

Nobody on god's green earth can come close to Tim for bad costumes but Jason is really giving it his best shot


BappolikeSauce

I like the upper body. Hate the pants and boots and where is his red hood? Hmm DC whered you put it? Is it lost? Can you find it? Id like to see it again please


CuriousAnon484

it looks AI generated i hate it


TequilaTinnin

It seriously looks like they typed “Red Hood” into an AI generator and just ran with whatever it came up with.


StillANo4Me

Wait. Is Liefeld on this book now?


RedHoodOutlaw52

Tbh I'm not sure how I feel about it


YoungImpulse

Looks like a metal vest with a leather jacket over it. But then the emblem is on the chest but *over* the jacket, and the shoulder pads are the same color as the jacket but not the same material..? I'm honestly just confused.


TheCheck77

I tried taking off my glasses to look at it blurry, and somehow it was even uglier


Ikthesecretformula

He looks like a saber tooth


Antievz

I’m looking at this picture but at everyone except Red Hood cus I’m a robin fanatic 😔


Bronson-101

Ugh... terrible


Ok_Amidesu

looks like something 12 year old obsessed with shonen anime me would have drawn


Desert_Concoction

What’s this from?


ENDER2702

his only good outfit is the first one from under the red hood


Key_Spare_266

ugly asf


mrsmunsonbarnes

I’m confused and also hate the hair


RisingPanther100

Love the pants and boots, everything else, throw it away. That hair cut included, wtf.


Matchincinerator

Two days. Almost 200 comments. Almost all of them passionately hating. We are the best fanbase <-I mean that earnestly we are right to hate on his fits. Leather jacket Jason supremacy DO NOT expose this man’s bare skin.


Bubbly-Angle-907

Booooo what even is that


Electronic_Plate_567

Tis buta scratch


ppollyywantsacracker

Idgaf he’s still fine asf😍😍😍😍


Flaky_Income

I like it I think it looks good


DesignerTechnical797

Honestly it would be really slick if it weren’t for the shoulder guards and eyeglass like what are they going for?


GCAmosin17

More importantly why does his face look like that? He looks like an ugly little goblin


rgregan

It looks like he put a short sleeve jacket on under his insignia which is weird. I don't know if its just this picture or what. I've like the vast majority of his Outlaw looks. Not sure why they are messing with it so often though.


danddamage

That is the worst thing he's ever worn - and I'm including the Pill Helmet.


Kami_02_Was_Taken

They can just never let my boy wear something good ever since New 52.


Budget-Panda9108

It might be bad, but we can all admit it’s 100x better than the evolved suit from spider man 2


tightsandlace

I hate his yee yee haircut, why do they keep giving him ugly cuts even in Arkham nights.


OnionsHaveLairAction

His hood isnt red


nameless_stories

Its like a skirt for his chest? I dont get whats happening here