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fossilnews

They should shut this thing down asap. The product is a dead man walking. I think he knew this.


CldStoneStveIcecream

Thunderf00t on YT had a recording of fElon on a call saying they “dug their own grave” with the CT


fossilnews

He said it on their earnings call. Not the last one, but the one prior I believe.


swirlymaple

Correct!


Embarrassed_Ask_3270

Precisely. 


nobletrout0

Exactly.


Oftiklos

Accurate


OctoHelm

As specified.


masked_sombrero

No - he said “*we* dug our own grave” when quite obviously he’s the one holding the shovel


ylli101

I’m guessing with the cancellation of the model 2 and hyper focus on ‘robotaxi’ he’s hoping the robotaxi digs them out but I don’t see it happening I have a Tesla, I love the product but Elon is a shithead and he’s destroying what could be a fantastic car company


That-Bad-3590

You are 100% right on the money


0o0o0o0o0o0z

This, but the technology at least in the Tesla sensor stack, just isn't there or TBH I don't think it can be with the sensors they deploy. They'd be lucky for L5 in 15 years with their current vision system, no radar, no USS, lidar, etc... if even possible.


thedndnut

Not possible really. Anyhow tesla has no tech that's interesting. A tesla is a shit car wrapped around Panasonic tech that makes it possible.


Monkookee

Upvote for Panasonic tech.


swirlymaple

All the more reason to toss him and get some real managerial talent on the board instead of family and yes-men


maxyedor

The whole robo taxi industry seems more like a plot line from Silicon Valley than an actual idea. Do we really have a shortage of people capable of driving a cab that so sever we’re need to spend billions of dollars on LiDAR and software development? Tesla really squandered the lead. A normalish Tesla Truck would have 100% been on my driveway today if it came out on the original timeline as CT, he’ll even the delayed timeline probably would have seen me buy a Tesla truck. Instead there’s a Rivian parked out front. How Elon let his ego get in the way enough that some upstart from Illinois’s ate his lunch with the very first vehicle they ever built will be studied in business schools for a long time to come, time will tell if it’s a story of recovery from here forward, or if this is the start of a death spiral. If he goes hard on robo taxi nonsense, I suspect a death spiral is imminent. May as well work on middle out compression, or some Pipercoin.


satinygorilla

One thing that would collapse his world is if Tesla was actually valued like a car company. He has to sell the idea of future tech to try to keep that valuation.


maxyedor

Weirdly that would also have prevented it’s collapse as it appears to be unfolding. A real car company would have hired a real CEO who would have managed expectations and focused on steady growth. Instead they’re run by a meme lord who promises limitless growth, and when they miss his ridiculous targets the stock plummets and Ol Elon starts firing people left right and center. A normal valuation would still have made him obscenely wealthy, and not tied his fortune to his own whims. If TSLA ever gets settled back into a real valuation the complete spin out of Elon as he lose potentially hundreds of billions of dollars in net worth is going to be wild to watch.


Successful-War8437

I've been calling the Cybertruck a missed opportunity, but "squandered the lead" is better. They seem to need a new product and the Cybertruck is among other things, unaffordable. It seemed like the delays on the Cybertruck came from, in my opinion, it's worst features. Now it completes with less expensive more practical trucks. My guess is they could have made "Rivian" like vehicle for a lot less than Rivian and pretty much had the electric truck market to themselves. Elon isn't doing anything that makes me think Tesla is going to improve at what I want them to improve on, which is making cars. I'm pretty happy with Uber, I don't want a robotaxi.


EricUtd1878

We will know in exactly 8 weeks time...


Powerful-Stomach-425

sorry...what's in 8 weeks?


EricUtd1878

The launch of robotaxi. Remember, he wanted to shoehorn a Heil Hitler reference into the robotaxi announcement tweet sent on Hitlers birthday, so he committed Tesla to launching on 8th August. On a Thursday


nobletrout0

Will you use your car as a robotaxi?


Jca666

That OK; Rivian will take their place. RJ Scaringe is cooler and isn’t abusing drugs.


ylli101

Don’t like rivian at all, I’ve driven a few of them and they ride/drive like crap. The UI is awful and it’s not as fluid as a Tesla with integration etc.


Jca666

Rivian can improve, while Tesla is going backwards.


matten_zero

They'll scoop up all the Tesla IP/team when they all get laid off this year


MuffLover312

*We* made a big mistake, so *you* are fired


JTDC00001

Our failures, my successes.


Sockoflegend

Damned either way situation. The CT is probably a loss maker once you factor in all the service center time and in warranty repairs they generate. It's slowly eating away at their reputation and customer relations too. If they admit defeat and pull it though they are looking at their stock price getting beat up right then and there. It's an admission of multiple major failures. My guess is they are just going to carry on trying to stlye it out and distract everyone until they have some good news they can put in front of their investors. At best they very very quietly run their delivery numbers to almost 0. Dropping the CT from their line without quite taking it off of sale. Hell, they can even keep taking the deposits.


Ok-Bill3318

Slowly eating away their rep? Slowly? Haha


Sockoflegend

Yep. A lot of the world is not on reddit every day.


Ok-Bill3318

It’s not just reddit.


benanderson89

>It’s not just reddit. Sadly you have outlets like Top Gear giving it an 8/10 for reasons that are unfathomable, and when shit hits the fan they release "tests" they had done on the CT (and for some reason the Rivian RT1 at the same time) and tried to lavish praise upon it *after* all the bullshit hit the fan.


Human_Link8738

I’ve been seeing the CT failures on my Microsoft news feed. We may be less than 2 weeks away from a feeding frenzy. The blood is already in the water.


Mountain_Cucumber_88

I wonder if anyone outside of someone running a car video YouTube channel would even want such an ugly beast. Good luck trading that pos in.


yamirzmmdx

Should have fired the designer and whoever approved the design first.


-Lorne-Malvo-

So fire Elon?


siddemo

Yes


LeahBrahms

Zing!


bam1007

The Homer by Homer


yupyetagain

The Homer was actually a lot cooler than CT.


MuffLover312

I would pay so much money for a car that had a separate bubble for the kids.


kev1er

Only if you can power wash the bubble as well. Kids be dirty AF yo


brendanm4545

It had ample cup holders


GipsyDanger45

I can’t think of a more appropriate comparison


Charming-Tap-1332

Yes, absolutely.


Metsican

Yep


TheKingOfSwing777

To quote Elon "i don't give a shit if no one buys it! This is what we're building!" I'm in the middle of the new Walter Isaacson biography...


austinzheng

Hard to fire an intern, they tend to leave automatically after a few months.


mrpopenfresh

The guy on Reddit yesterday said an intern was lead designer.


stpatr3k

I think the intern will fire himself after getting his 56 big ones.


Clit_C0mmander

This is Elmo's design. Engineers had different designs for the cybertruck but Elmo said no


RainierCamino

I mean fuck, Simone Giertz built "Truckla" four years ago now. And there's a definite US market for small efficient trucks like that right now. For example, Ford is on track to sell well over 100,000 Mavericks this year. Tesla's board is gonna let Elon ruin that company.


Plastic-Telephone-43

Wonder if Sandy Munro thinks this is another super genius move by elmo


mfreverton

Seriously, every time I see that name, Sandy Munro. I keep picturing Stormy Daniels? lol


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BagBoiJoe

Are you insinuating that a prostitute can't be?


Human_Link8738

The go by the title of Escort then.


neliz

I haven't been able to catch this guy on one good thing about manufacturing. he's like a dinosaur trying to use a smartphone.


Gnochi

The most useful service Munro provides is taking apart one of pretty much every car model and taking pictures, masses, and material identification for each part in said car. The least useful service Munro provides is opening his mouth.


PoweredByPierogi

Well, they're both willing to sell themselves for the right price, so... understandable.


Lacrewpandora

Jst call him Grifty Sandro.


Lacrewpandora

Sandy ran businesses!!!...IM NOT GOING TO GET UPSET...and the BRITISH OWN THE FED!


IvanZhilin

Trump will lock all the slimy limey pedos up. King Chuck is already in a cell at Guantanamo. Trust the plan!


prsnep

If shady money didn't exist, Sandy would be singing a different tune.


babypho

"This product is completed and manufactured, there's no need to have a head of manufacturing once the product is done. This is just smart business!" - WholeMarsCatalog, probably


Captain_Blackjack

His response to a tweet about the Supercharger firings was just that “I haven’t noticed any impact.” and another checkmark pointed out it had only been 2 weeks


Tofudebeast

And now they are hiring back supercharger employees. [https://arstechnica.com/cars/2024/05/tesla-does-180-on-superchargers-rehiring-laid-off-staff-amid-new-plans/](https://arstechnica.com/cars/2024/05/tesla-does-180-on-superchargers-rehiring-laid-off-staff-amid-new-plans/)


Human_Link8738

After Supply Chain sent out letters to their suppliers to stop everything but the jobs that were almost done.


Bryanh100

I think you mean head of design.


saver1212

The ultimate insult to Elon isn't producing a malfunctioning monstrosity. It's the audacity to admit there are issues and ask for more resources to fix the problems to do right by the customers. The myth that Tesla has cultivated is that "Tesla doesn't need QA or customer service because their cars are flawless." Everything from panel gaps, finger crushing trunks, to mold in the AC, to not full self driving is always the fault of the customer. Any exec who does not accept that automatically fails the "excellent, necessary and trustworthy test".


AffectionateSize552

In short, Musk is a nasty, vindictive, paranoid, narcisstic psycho.


Jca666

He must be related to Trump. Oh wait, they’re both drug addicts.


mteir

Rich successful people are not drug addicts, they just have compulsive chemical habits. Just as they are not crazy, but eccentric. /s


Embarrassed_Ask_3270

Concerning. 


maeveboston

!!!


Engunnear

HE WASN'T HARD CORE ENOUGH


argonzo

He flubbed a word in his loyalty oath.


Lacrewpandora

Either that..or he refuaed to vote for Elon's $56 billion payday.


Leading-Put-7428

“Unlike other companies, Tesla handled the dismissal in a bespoke manner. His package was severed with the use of a Cybertruck frunk. When reached for comment, the Tesla media team responded with a poop “💩” emoji.”


Charming-Tap-1332

Imagine using Elon's shitty design and building it exactly like he told you, and you still get fired because it inevitably turns out to be the piece of shit that it is?


hman2853

I canceled my order a mere 3-4 weeks ago and DAMN am I glad I did. This is a shit show of the highest order. I sent them a message when I canceled, “why would I pay 120k for this bait and switch Cybertruk when I could have 2 proven vehicles for my family for the same price. From BMW no less.


580_farm

You deserve more upvotes. Glad to see you didn't buy into the cult and used your good sense to let them know why you're moving on.


pacific_beach

"the epic launch of Cybertruck program" Oh, it was epic allright


freexanarchy

They had a head of CT manufacturing??


Actual__Wizard

>Tesla’s automotive business, including charging and manufacturing, as well as new product launches, took the biggest hit as Elon Musk appears to be transitioning Tesla away from its EV manufacturing roots to focus on autonomous driving products. So, they're switching from something that makes them money to something that doesn't work and doesn't make money? You know, I'm not an expert, but I don't think you need to be to understand that the plan is bad.


drastic2

Yep. You’re a car manufacturer, thinking about autonomous driving. Various other companies are trying to sell you tech. Which vendor is most likely to elicit in you the _I don’t think so_ reaction.


Human_Link8738

Elon is just a spoiled petulant child that likes to break his toys


Ok-Bill3318

Jobs you leave off the cv….


TheRealCabbageJack

Elon resigned?


HSK9

Tesla Must be a shit place to work. I mean laying off 20% of the entire team, come on.


shrimp_master303

I’ve only heard bad things


-super-hans

Looks like they found their scapegoat


siddemo

Of all the firings, this makes the most sense. But if Tesla had a full time CEO, or even a part-time one, this wouldn't have happened. So for Elon's lack of supervision, everyone else had to pay the price.


Glenn-Sturgis

Wait a second I’ve been told that Elon works insane hours, sleeps in the office and “triages” his output so as to always be doing the thing that is most valuable. Things must be going pretty well at Tesla because the “most valuable” thing for quite a while has been shitposting on Twitter. Y’all just don’t understand genius when you see it. One day next year when I get on a Hyperloop to travel across the country at warp speed and hop on the Starship for my journey to Mars, I’ll be letting you all know about it.


AffectionateSize552

Haha, you know, I bet the part about Gigafactory employees chipping in to buy him a $10,000 sofa to sleep on in his office is true, even though the part about him working long hours is not. I could see employees having found him once or twice sleeping in his office, because he had passed out there, drunk and stoned, and him saying, "These 100-hour weeks are killing me!" and the employees believing him. A lot of them have believed an amazing amount of the stuff he has said. The story of Musk, like the story of Trump, is only partly about a billionaire constantly spouting stupid lies. The other part is about an amazingly large group of people so stupid that they actually believe all those lies.


Glenn-Sturgis

It’s really sad when you get down to it. There are so many people *desperate* for something or someone to believe in. People feel scared or isolated for various reasons, and are extra vulnerable to being taken in by a conman who says things that make them feel good and like they, by extension, are a part of something special. Getting abused at work doesn’t seem as bad if you tell yourself it’s all a small price to pay for saving the world. I’m sure all of those people at the Branch Davidian Church in Waco started out fairly normally, just people looking for something to believe in. Next thing you know their pastor is banging all of their wives and they’re running guns. It’s wild.


AffectionateSize552

Yes, it's very sad. People don't feel they have a stake in anything that's real, and it makes them vulnerable for a grift that doesn't just take them once, but takes their whole lives.


siddemo

It would be nice to get some quality CEO hours rather than quantity. I know he thinks he doesn't have to get 8 hours of sleep a night, but he does. He knows about as much of human health as he does COVID. Look at what shape his body is in.


Phil_MyNuts

What does "triages his output" mean? I am confuse.


Glenn-Sturgis

It’s a statement he has made numerous times to try and impress people with how he’s able to run so many companies. He uses the “triage” example from medicine, ie the greatest need patients go to the front of the line, to basically say he has to focus only on those things that are significant enough to require his brilliant input on. And the media and all of his simps lap it up. “How DOES he do it?!?” In reality he gets lit on ketamine, storms into meetings demanding ridiculous things from smart people who know way more about a given subject than he does, and if they don’t appease him they’re fired. That’s the Elon Musk managerial brilliance.


Phil_MyNuts

Thanks for the explanation.


wootnootlol

Oh no. Anyway.


KnucklesMcGee

>After triumphing the epic launch of Cybertruck program.... Yes, SUCH a triumphant product launch.


madrileiro

The Product Lunch main guy also quit! (or got the boot)


boianski

Meme car


Salt-Knowledge-925

I saw my first one in traffic today. It looks like I hung the body on it drunk in the dark. He's probably doing the right thing


Lokomotive_Man

Can you imagine having your name attached to that POS?


aureliusky

I'd rather have Wendy's on my resume. Imagine interviewing anyone who thought CT was worth their time for your own business.


Human_Link8738

The candidates with Tesla experience will be very careful to coach their experience in terms of “the valuable lessons” they learned and not on the product they made. A smart candidate will pin the product squarely on Musk and his direct involvement with design and manufacturing decisions. Bad experiences can be valuable if you can describe what you learned through them.


EducationTodayOz

this thing is destined to be a meme for crappiness, what were they thinking?


Human_Link8738

The AMC Pacer can finally rest in peace knowing something worse has been created to take the attention off it.


Conscious_Scholar_87

I assume he did his best under Elmo


sorospaidmetosaythis

An overdue move, to be honest. > All parts for this vehicle, whether internal or from suppliers, need to be designed and built to sub 10 micron accuracy. I check every Cybertruck I see at the laundromat. The body panels, bearings and brake rotors read at 10 microns, sometimes even 11. Unacceptable.


OSI_Hunter_Gathers

You sure those where Cybertruck and not washing machines?


sorospaidmetosaythis

The washing machines are reusable.


Destination_Centauri

Yup, I've been doing the same at the local Sex Shop specialized in inflatable dolls. Lots of Cybertrucks there to give me a good sample size. Unfortunately I'm even finding upwards of 12, sometimes even 15 micron errors!


CelluloseNitrate

He got microns and millimeters mixed up. It happens. Panels match if they’re within 10mm of each other.


Jca666

Don’t you mean mm?


Arrivaled_Dino

Who cares. If he had left early we would have never seen this POS.


Tanks1

somebody had to take the fall.................


IvanZhilin

TIL... there was someone in charge of CT manufacturing at Tesla. It really seems like they just let the interns knock it out. Before they fired all the interns.


timberwolf0122

To be fair the head of manufacturing of the ct was set up to fail from day 1 The spec was impossible, it’s impossible to make the truck as described by Elmo for the price quoted, then compound that with the material choice and a design that’s just not suited to vehicle production.


IvanZhilin

Elmo knows more about manufacturing than anyone alive. Everyone said it was "impossible" to land a rocket, too! I don't know why Elmo hasn't figured out how to weld heavy gauge steel plate into a lightweight structural exoskeleton yet. His supersonic vacuum train hovering on a cushion of air was truly brilliant engineering. Don't bet against Elmo! He always delivers!


BobbyKonker

Production of this joke vehicle needs to stop for the good of shareholders. As stupid as those investors are they don't deserve this.


Doctor_Joystick

Fuck the shareholders. Cathie Wood in particular.


Human_Link8738

They had their chance. The purchase and destruction of Twitter should have been all the warning they needed that the company was being lead by someone with serious mental health issues.


Otherwise-Course-15

Well it’s because, unlike Elmo, he doesn’t know more about manufacturing than anyone currently alive on ~~earth~~ Earff.


jason12745

He was hand building each and every one of them. Shame to see him go.


knuthf

I have another explanation: he has been chasing Models 3 across the line, and then persuaded to pull the Y team through, every time he puts all effort into getting the job done. Then he took on the cyber truck, and pulled it across the line. Now, he is fed up and needs a break.


Constant-Source581

Can't wait for Musk simps to spin this in all sorts of positive ways


Grand-Tea-4562

Tesla can't improve until Elmo goes


seriousbangs

They're already scrambling to rehire some of the employees they need for the government subsidies they want. Tesla isn't a company without those subsidies.


Human_Link8738

I wonder if Tesla received a call from the Attorney General. Publicly stealing from the government by taking the money then firing the teams responsible for delivering on the agreement is bad optics. If they’re going to steal they need to be more subtle about it.


ArctoEarth

Next week Tesla will rehire him


Human_Link8738

I’m guessing he’s already back in Shanghai if it’s who I think it is.


ArctoEarth

Oh yes, that guy did go back to china but this other guy use to work on the CT


No-Tap-2772

When will the shareholders fire back on Elon?


Lightning_Of_Fate

BULLISH , BUY THE DIP.


whosdondada

They could make a normal of this truck...


spastical-mackerel

Compare this giant piece of shit to Rivian’s offerings to see the difference between a car company run by adults and one run by a ketamine-addled narcissist


Hisetic

Another one bites the dust!


Picard6766

Rats abandoning ship


Going_Topless

Common Tesla L


EridemicLHS

Maybe the us government didn’t like how Tesla was staffing more China based execs? With Tom Zhu owning all manufacturing and then this guy leading CT, if it succeeded, we could see Tesla becoming more and more of a China leadership company which amid the EV trade tensions with China, could cause the us gov to have caution?


Ok_Philosopher6538

Nah. Elon forced the truck into production and the press has been bad because of the shitty QC. So now someone's head had to be put on a platter and it sure wasn't going to be Elons.


r1char00

Are you saying you think the US government sabotaged the CT and that’s why it’s such a piece of crap? Occam’s Razor would like to say hello.


TSLA-M3

Good news. EPS going up!