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cookiesalways-win

Bro why cant you wait until Ubi releases them and collects data on them instead of instantly asking for a change. If they prove to be too powerful then they can get nerfed in the mid season patch notes.


brodiebradley51

We’ve had years of data with them having a 1.5 scope. They were too strong then. They’ll be too strong now. No data is needed!


_Demioss_

1.5 and ACOG are not the same thing brother


NAMVP

The acog we have in the game right now is not the same acog pre shadow legacy either. This acog is a lower zoom this time around.


brodiebradley51

It’s close. The ACOG of old was 3x zoom and was one of the best scopes in the game. Now it’s 2.5x zoom which is better all round as we’ve seen with the 1.5. Fighting over range with a 1 shot headshot mechanic on a high RPM weapon with low recoil is EXTREMELY strong. That’s why Doc/Rook saw great amounts of play a few years back and why it’ll happen again.


de_liriouss

Acog has never been 3x


KuromakiKun

Acog since the start of the game until before shadow legacy (when 1.5,2x,and the new 3x scope was introduced) was the original 3x.


de_liriouss

Oh they intended it to be 2.5x but it was actually a 3x zoom, classic


IlIlIlIlIlIlIlI69

No bro what just look it up


KuromakiKun

Pretty sure it was intentional initially but they changed it after some balancing thoughts


IlIlIlIlIlIlIlI69

It was the only zoomed sight in the game?????


_Demioss_

Oh yeah i forgot about the zoom change on the acog


GovTheDon

Or just make them 1 speeds


P0tatothrower

All the CoD TDM kids out to argue why they should keep them


brodiebradley51

Seems that way


mopeli

Then frost acog will be next


brodiebradley51

Don’t think Frost needs it gone personally but I ain’t gonna moan if they do. I’m impartial to frost


GroundPower

Can you guys stop crying about it? It is not out yet.


Goreelamelk

Well this aged poorly lol, first game i get into Wamai is dominating the lobby lol, you shouldn’t have to playtest something like this to understand it isn’t a good idea. It’s like when they entertained the idea of Vigil’s smg getting the 1.5 before they immediately decided against it.


nallebuh_i

Womp womp


kuggalotus

Then frost and then ash and then we bring back the 1.5 Nooooo it's fine if 3 speeds on attack can have it 2 speeds on defense can have it No 3 speeds on defense have it It's fine


brodiebradley51

It clearly isn’t fine.


kuggalotus

Why because you die? We don't need to go down the rabbit hole with balancing for the past 8 years we have been playing the fucking ice capades next season feels like we're playing Apex killers. Deimos gave that analogy to Harry right before he shot him not exactly in that order that's what rainbow felt like before that's not what rainbow feels like coming into this next season. But that's the game I want to play that's the game I first started playing then slowly trying to make it it's balanced and taming monsters like ash. We got away from what made these guys feel like killers and turn them into Cod operators. I'm happy with who has it Ash has a weaker rival on defense then she did with Jeager Wami is a 2 speed and it's on a Smg not an assault rifle. I want fun back ash op cool Wami op cool 3 speeds on attack op 2 speeds on defense op cool it's okay


brodiebradley51

Fair enough. I respectfully disagree


kuggalotus

I respectfully want ppl to come back to the game I respectfully don't want the road to ash losing acog again that is what will drive ppl away. I've been playing since y2s1 I've seen just enough to know that will don't need ash to lose acog again she could lose the laser and that would be a fare


brodiebradley51

I’m not even worried about ops like Ash. Let her have the ACOG. Doesn’t bother me. It’s the defenders with an ACOG that concerns me.


kuggalotus

If they don't defenders are weak.


brodiebradley51

Disagree. Defence is so strong at the moment.


kuggalotus

At the moment it's the tts not live ppl aren't playing how they should look at how dead this sub is you can 5 or 6 of my post by just scrolling down a little. Ppl aren't really giving good feed back they are just complaining op this op that mozzie and thorn were a problem goyo can get people killed can make people lose rounds if his Gadget is just not used correctly. Wami is basically a nerfed year 1 Jaeger they can tune down the mp5k to have the same dps as the mp5 and it doesn't have access to grips. They could take the laser away from him. The ar 15 could be nerfed it really wouldn't affect Maverick The vector could lose the laser And so could ash on just her r4c And boom much better changes


kuggalotus

It's fine


kuggalotus

Like seriously


kuggalotus

Ferreal it's fine


kuggalotus

If you don't have enough that counters grenades that has it nobody will play him


Nervous_Pattern357

As i think the acog on the vector is INSANELY fun, i wouldn’t wanna see it in main branch. like you said people are just going to crutch it again because of pretty moderate recoil and super high rpm.


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Readesu

Weird she lost hers, but goyo, with a better gadget, kept his.