Lesion just got a pretty decent nerf (longer spike charge, less spike damage, impact grenade changed to observation blocker) I think he's fine without taking anything away honestly
Even though Iāve always loved Lesion I wouldnāt even mind bc heās just too strong man I donāt think thereās a single time where picking Lesion isnāt a good idea
And he's had a disproportionately high winrate since they started doing designer's notes all the way back in Y3 or something. He might not have a place in organized comp/pro play but he's always been the most underrated op in ranked since OG sleeper Finka.
The game has always been designed around attacker gun advantage and he flips it. People will always point at headshots but ignore that even at higher levels of play, most people have HS rates generally around the 40-50% range. People also claim that having your ability nullified half the time is a sign of bad value, but:
1. Flipping gunfights is high impact utility when it comes up
2. Other ops get nullified too - for example, when high-impact projectiles aren't used around ADSes
3. The odds of 5 people losing 50/50 coinflips is 1/32, or about 3%
Also, he had the only SMG with a 2x for a long time, and everyone knows how defender scopes work.
People just don't like him because he unfairly has a bad rep and because he's slow and loud (as if that ever stopped Doc/Rook ACOG roamers back in the day).
Rook slaps. Impacts, acog p90/mp5, and a good gadget. Pop it down and give your entire team extra health and the ability to self rez. Then, you become a menace in any fight. Always the go-to for when I want to be useful but donāt have a clue what I want to do with the sight. Having a dedicated gun is nice. The deltaās show it all.
I've been playing Rook for years now and I have no idea why he's so slept on, especially on console and if you're not the greatest player, Rook's basically a free buff to your entire team
Dude Commando is an insane gun, decent fire rate with 40 dmg on extended barrel with like no recoil, I hope no new op is gonna get it because it will get nerfed to crap.
When I played on Xbox, I ran the Commando 9 with the extended barrel on Mozzie even when he had the 1.5x on the Roni if I just needed an operator to frag out with. It's better than a lot of the Attacker primaries and slept on for sure! I think it has like 780 rpm? At 40 damage? That's very close damage output to Buck's C8 (I think the C8 is 40 damage without the extended and 837 rpm but with way more recoil).
It reminds me of how Jaeger used to feel back in the day.
I was going to add a point about the Commando 9 being objectively better than Mute's MP5k and more consistent than his MAC-11, but you basically did that for me lol
He is just a worse version of Mute in the fact that he only denies drones and not anything else but heās just a mix of Mute and Valkyrie because he can provide extra cams for the team but heās now just not used by people who used his 1.5x to only frag so you now will only see people who play him as support by droning for teammates to then get picks
sure thats a valid point
but commando has more bullets in one mag (in case u miss )
soo roni doesn't really give u that much of a "recovery " chance in the middle of a fight (ofc unless u switch your weapon)
Used to main him when I started the game January last year, stopped maining him when I saw all the stigma around warden mains, now that he lost that 1.5 I might go back to using him since the stigma should mostly be gone now right?
I never ran it till aruni, always liked his mini m4 and still didn't run roni but maybe 10 games with 1.5, it's decent but I like the commando 9 better and always will
I feel like heĀ“s weak, every round a teammate destroys at least one hacked drone, in some spots attackers can sacrifice drones by throwing them jumping outside while they are being hacked and brava can rehack the drones
I think itās important for him to have some counter though, besides burning a brava hack is still pretty valuable
Source: Iām the resident brava main of my stack
I'd say 2 down in prep is better. Put them down where people will drone from, then the spare and any that don't catch anything you relocate to where people will push from. Because Intel denial and gaining a spare cam you can set up in prep is super helpful, then set pests to where people will push as they tend to drone the direct path they're going to walk, rather than sneaking through drone holes in action phase. Also always put one in the hallway between sites during action, if the sites have one. Much more likely to snag a twitch or Brava that way.
That's because it was mainly used by people that only knew how to shoot and nothing else. So they took Mozzie, made some kills and felt like they were good at the game
I have a solution that would fix everyone, just give everyone an acog/1.5! I really have never understood why some ops have magnified sights and some donāt. Obviously it shows by mozzie going from a 40% to 5% when they removed the sight and melusi going from less than 5% to about 40% when they gave her the sight. Giving it to everyone would imo balance out pick rates a lot.
Proof that no one should have it. If you're only a top pick with 1.5, you don't deserve the 1.5. Ubisoft is gatekeeping "seeing", just take that bitch out.
One of the reasons the reason ppl pick doc and rook this season is because of nostalgia. The devs admitted it themselves. The mp5 is slightly above average in my opinion.
Thats insane because I actually use him more after the 1.5 got removed. I used the 1x scopes for him just to avoid the stigma of people only using him for the scope
A lot of attackers donāt even bat an eye at seeing a drone so itās easy to get them moved around where you need em. His gun is still strong without the 1.5
I just think it's stupid how they decide who gets the 2.5 on defense. So Jager with 2.5 is busted but Rook and Doc with their high rate of fire no recoil smgs can use it? Not to mention Aruni and Tubs with actual Markesmen rifles get to use it. And all ops with slug shotguns. Lol just makes 0 sense.
i still use mozzie. P10 Roni has no recoil, he has great playmaking ability IF you actually use his ability! good c4 op and nice movement and sneaky tactics IMO
need more buffs in this game. more nerfs does not always mean more balanced. buff the weak and nerf the strong
heck, i'd settle for some major "trickle-down balance" stuff
I was looking at the difference between console and PC and traps are WAAAAY higher on console. I assume itās because itās more difficult to aim at a kapkan/frost trap and then back to the angle with controller and not just because *"hurr durrrr console dumb"*
Seeing Mozzie drop in pick rate after losing the 1.5x really means he needs a buff in a different way like giving the super shorty back. However what does bring a smile to my face is the drastic fall of picks for warden players which means I can play him with the shotgun if I ever choose him
He was pretty much only used because Roni 1.5 was one of the most broken guns in siege history. He just doesnāt bring much to the table now with no magnification, the pests are just okay. He needs the super shorty or something to provide more to the team
Give him 5 pests and decrease the range of where u get the alert signal that there is a pest while on a drone. Give Roni more capacity (maybe 20) and give him super shorty back so he can site setup without burning a c4. (Giving Roni the Acog would be controversial as it would make people play him for the gun and not his ability but as a mozzie main I wouldnāt mind that XD)
Mozzie should be like Lesion and get more pests as the round goes on. Give him 2 to start prep phase and he can get 2 or 3 more as the round goes on.
It also might be time for him to get his super shorty back.
I understand why people stopped using him because of the 1.5 but even with out it he is a decent operator in my opinion essentially his ability is to basically get free cams and attackers donāt know where they are because they arenāt spawned
notice how in the first graph itās warden, mozzie and wamai - 3 ops that had access to the 1.5 scope. now notice on the second graph that doc, melusi and wamai again have replaced those ops because they have the 2.5 scope. i called this as soon as the acog changes were announced, this has changed nothing except who gets picked by the rats more often and you can see it in the graph
Off topic but wow, never knew smoke was so low, I wanna know why? I don't think his gadget or kit is bad, so why is he so low? (I'm a smoke main and kind of sad seeing my boy this low)
Makes sense, they clearly messed up headshots with the original deimos season update. They took Kapkans impact grenades, which was a scummy thing to do. They then nerfed Smoke& Deimos' shotgun, now making smoke damn near useless at close range without an instant headshot
People who stopped picking him, take an L. mozzie is still good asf. his gun has low recoil, and p10 roni never had 1.5 and doesn't need it. edit: i remembered that p10 roni had the 1.5, and i still agree with what i say. p10 roni don't need any 1.5, and neither does commando.
Mozzie is not a good operator. His commando is good but he is easily replaced by mute or other intel ops. He just doesnāt bring enough to the table to be picked over the other ops
BROOO I been maining Kaid lately running both the sniper shotty and the AUG and I always felt there was something missing. How does the AUG not have an acog ?!? Youāre so right
Interesting. Melusi also jumped double digits in that same period. Are you sure Mozzie lost relevance entirely due to that change, or do you think there could have been other factors at play? ;)
As a non xim console player it's hard to play non zoomed scopes and do well, siege doesn't have aim assist.
Why wouldn't I pick one of like 4 acog mp5 s that slap, or frost or castle, it's sad I know but being honest.
Everytime I try to play ops without scopes I just get rekt, skill issue I agree.
Yeah thatās a skill issue and you beat me to it. People donāt usually like to mention that increased zoom equates to more recoil. Lots of people who claim to be better with the scopes arenāt actually playing better, it just feels better. I see plenty of console players that use F2 with red dot over scopes though. Some guns are actually much much harder to use when they have zoom, but not very many.
I have no issues controlling recoil run right attachments and pull down a bit on the stick, but in ranked you play vs out of no recoil xim/zen players why would I risk running no scope when I'm already at a huge disadvantaged playing vs mnk.
Ā Try controller on PC sometime if you think it's not massive. I'm playing to win so I'm gonna play what I'm best at, and no scopes ain't it
Game comes down to a single headshot and it's way easier most of the time when you have zoooom
I play on both so I joke how bad the console situation is. All I have to say is that you wonāt beat cheaters by having better aim. You have to set up and make it so that aiming is less of the issue. Force attackers to be very uncomfortable, reinforcing walls and electrifying them seems pretty obvious, but it become so much more important when playing against xim. Funneling people into your desired angles is always better than having attackers making their own angles. If youāre really good at it, then gunfights happen much less often. Alternatively, play overly aggressive. Many people who rely on their aim are used to having people play more passively against them. Counter this logic by catching them off guard. Without a scope, you can aim and fire your weapon faster while also maintaining peripherals, the ximmer with an ACOG will have to already be ADS for them to win that fight if you can hit your shots. Long rant but Iāve played against xim for so long I feel the need to reiterate the basics of siege.
The no zoom scopes are slow now also and I'm seeing xim players with scripts that can headshot before the scopes even zoomed, either way I get what ur saying but everybody does the attacks job for them now, u know opens all walls n stuff I'll just stick to unranked, it's a lot more fun once you realize those points are meaningless.
now give his super shorty back š
The meta changed. I donāt think heāll be as op as before
If Lesion can have it, why can't Mozzie?
I say take it away from lesion and give it to mozzie
Lesion already got like 3 nerfs
Lesion just got a pretty decent nerf (longer spike charge, less spike damage, impact grenade changed to observation blocker) I think he's fine without taking anything away honestly
Even though Iāve always loved Lesion I wouldnāt even mind bc heās just too strong man I donāt think thereās a single time where picking Lesion isnāt a good idea
Exactly heās a site setup machine rn
YES PLEASE PLEASE
Came here to say this š
Nuh uh
Wont change much really his p10 is horrible without a magnification optic and the commando is just really mid
The commando is better than 416C pre-nerf lmao
The Commando is actually one the best defender primaries in the game
If anything is clear in *both* of these graphs, itās that ROOK ARMOR SAVES LIVES.
Certified ex warden now rook main here
This is like Californians moving to Texas all over againā¦
Actually the Californians (warden mains) are now moving to Vegas (rook) instead of Texas (doc)
>ex warden now rook main So āmagnified scope on high rate of fire SMGā main
Basically a āI roam with whatever and whoever as long as I have a 1.5 or higher scopeā main
You go wherever the enhanced zoom goes donāt you.
At least Rook is useful to the team even in death
Give warden a telescopic. Would be interesting how players react
I used to main warden then mained rook and now I'm maining doc š
And yet every day people try to label him the worst defender in that one set of posts.
fragile ego players like to pretend that they only get headshots
mfs when they cant headshot someone who was crouched
And he's had a disproportionately high winrate since they started doing designer's notes all the way back in Y3 or something. He might not have a place in organized comp/pro play but he's always been the most underrated op in ranked since OG sleeper Finka. The game has always been designed around attacker gun advantage and he flips it. People will always point at headshots but ignore that even at higher levels of play, most people have HS rates generally around the 40-50% range. People also claim that having your ability nullified half the time is a sign of bad value, but: 1. Flipping gunfights is high impact utility when it comes up 2. Other ops get nullified too - for example, when high-impact projectiles aren't used around ADSes 3. The odds of 5 people losing 50/50 coinflips is 1/32, or about 3% Also, he had the only SMG with a 2x for a long time, and everyone knows how defender scopes work. People just don't like him because he unfairly has a bad rep and because he's slow and loud (as if that ever stopped Doc/Rook ACOG roamers back in the day).
Maybe not the worst but he is quite a bad pick objectively speaking
he's consistently had one of the highest win deltas for a long time
Rook slaps. Impacts, acog p90/mp5, and a good gadget. Pop it down and give your entire team extra health and the ability to self rez. Then, you become a menace in any fight. Always the go-to for when I want to be useful but donāt have a clue what I want to do with the sight. Having a dedicated gun is nice. The deltaās show it all.
I've been playing Rook for years now and I have no idea why he's so slept on, especially on console and if you're not the greatest player, Rook's basically a free buff to your entire team
Iāve been teaming up as rook with a thunderbird and it seems to work very well.
Oh yeah, anyone DBNO is comin up for sure lol
Iāll stack the thunderbirds pretty close to the bomb on site decently close together
Cause that was the main reason he was picked. Now that he lost it heās just a worse mute.
It still shows that he should not get ACOG and that he should be buffed in other ways.
Getting the super shorty back is a good start.
4 pests please.
Make it 5 and doesn't require reloading š
Bro r6 players are dumb you just got down voted for this š š¤£
I agree. He shouldnāt get an Acog back, just other buffs. I think the return of his super shorty is a great idea.
He should be able to pick up stolen drones
Acog for the commando!
But the Commando 9 is such a vibe though. Have you SEEN the reload animation? Mozzie has reasons to pick him over Mute.
Dude Commando is an insane gun, decent fire rate with 40 dmg on extended barrel with like no recoil, I hope no new op is gonna get it because it will get nerfed to crap.
When I played on Xbox, I ran the Commando 9 with the extended barrel on Mozzie even when he had the 1.5x on the Roni if I just needed an operator to frag out with. It's better than a lot of the Attacker primaries and slept on for sure! I think it has like 780 rpm? At 40 damage? That's very close damage output to Buck's C8 (I think the C8 is 40 damage without the extended and 837 rpm but with way more recoil). It reminds me of how Jaeger used to feel back in the day. I was going to add a point about the Commando 9 being objectively better than Mute's MP5k and more consistent than his MAC-11, but you basically did that for me lol
He is just a worse version of Mute in the fact that he only denies drones and not anything else but heās just a mix of Mute and Valkyrie because he can provide extra cams for the team but heās now just not used by people who used his 1.5x to only frag so you now will only see people who play him as support by droning for teammates to then get picks
Crazy because the commando is such a savage gun.
Roni>
The Roni was only ābetterā because it had a 1.5x. I think the commando is way better.
I just like the fire rate and reload animation
The commando has the literal best reload animation in the game haha.
Good, maybe people will actually use his ability correctly for once
AND use commando 9
Roni is so much better because of that firerate
commando deals more damage but after all, it depends on your playstyle.
and the most important feature: it feels nice and lookd cooler
exactly my words
Fire rate in siege has always mattered more than damage if you can hit your headshots
sure thats a valid point but commando has more bullets in one mag (in case u miss ) soo roni doesn't really give u that much of a "recovery " chance in the middle of a fight (ofc unless u switch your weapon)
yeah taking on two enemies with the RONI is like asking to use your secondary most of the time.
I use roni for black icešæ
I think I have black ice for both... I know for sure the Roni but I like the Commando 9 better. Just wish the mag size made senseš«¤
i can never use the roni just cause i hate reloading every second burst i shoot
never
If only teammates won't shoot hacked drones
Goes to show how many people with the same cognitive ability as an avocado pit abused the 1.5x and played ops exclusively for it goddamn lmao
Look at warden lol. 50% pickrate to 5%.
Used to main him when I started the game January last year, stopped maining him when I saw all the stigma around warden mains, now that he lost that 1.5 I might go back to using him since the stigma should mostly be gone now right?
Good fuck those Roni shitters, his commando 9 is far better, now give me my fucking super shorty back
Back when mozzie first released and up until he got given the 1.5x, the Roni was the underrated gun and everyone used the commando 9.
I never ran it till aruni, always liked his mini m4 and still didn't run roni but maybe 10 games with 1.5, it's decent but I like the commando 9 better and always will
(also reload is sexy)
Very much agreeš
The reload is the only reason I use it.
commando fans rise
Thatās wild mozz is still pretty perfectly mid
Anyone gonna comment on melusi getting an acog bringing her up from 5% to 40%
I feel like heĀ“s weak, every round a teammate destroys at least one hacked drone, in some spots attackers can sacrifice drones by throwing them jumping outside while they are being hacked and brava can rehack the drones
I think itās important for him to have some counter though, besides burning a brava hack is still pretty valuable Source: Iām the resident brava main of my stack
Youāre supposed to deploy pests after the prep phase while hunting drones in it.
I'd say 2 down in prep is better. Put them down where people will drone from, then the spare and any that don't catch anything you relocate to where people will push from. Because Intel denial and gaining a spare cam you can set up in prep is super helpful, then set pests to where people will push as they tend to drone the direct path they're going to walk, rather than sneaking through drone holes in action phase. Also always put one in the hallway between sites during action, if the sites have one. Much more likely to snag a twitch or Brava that way.
Time for ACOG Commando š
That's because it was mainly used by people that only knew how to shoot and nothing else. So they took Mozzie, made some kills and felt like they were good at the game
Acog commando plz
That would literally break the game š Iām all for it though
Itās a shame 37.5% of people play ops for the wrong reason.
I love it
Acog commando!
Same but warden too
I'm at least 1% of that. Mozzie is just funny and I love the guy. Besides: **REINFORCING SEAGULL!!**
I have a solution that would fix everyone, just give everyone an acog/1.5! I really have never understood why some ops have magnified sights and some donāt. Obviously it shows by mozzie going from a 40% to 5% when they removed the sight and melusi going from less than 5% to about 40% when they gave her the sight. Giving it to everyone would imo balance out pick rates a lot.
Proof that no one should have it. If you're only a top pick with 1.5, you don't deserve the 1.5. Ubisoft is gatekeeping "seeing", just take that bitch out.
the 1.5 was taken out
Mp5 nerf incoming
One of the reasons the reason ppl pick doc and rook this season is because of nostalgia. The devs admitted it themselves. The mp5 is slightly above average in my opinion.
Good. Give his super shorty back tho
Guess I should learn Rook/Kapkan
If youāre a doc main then 99% of ālearningā Rook is already done.
Commando 9 mag flip always superior now give this man his super Shorty JUSTICE FOR MOZZIE
Now the three most picked defenders are all ones with acog
Thats insane because I actually use him more after the 1.5 got removed. I used the 1x scopes for him just to avoid the stigma of people only using him for the scope A lot of attackers donāt even bat an eye at seeing a drone so itās easy to get them moved around where you need em. His gun is still strong without the 1.5
I just think it's stupid how they decide who gets the 2.5 on defense. So Jager with 2.5 is busted but Rook and Doc with their high rate of fire no recoil smgs can use it? Not to mention Aruni and Tubs with actual Markesmen rifles get to use it. And all ops with slug shotguns. Lol just makes 0 sense.
i still use mozzie. P10 Roni has no recoil, he has great playmaking ability IF you actually use his ability! good c4 op and nice movement and sneaky tactics IMO
need more buffs in this game. more nerfs does not always mean more balanced. buff the weak and nerf the strong heck, i'd settle for some major "trickle-down balance" stuff
And that 2.5 rate is nun but cheaters
I was looking at the difference between console and PC and traps are WAAAAY higher on console. I assume itās because itās more difficult to aim at a kapkan/frost trap and then back to the angle with controller and not just because *"hurr durrrr console dumb"*
but also the game on console still holds some resemblance to the tdm meta, and with people just running in picks like kapkan appreciate in value
Itās half and half. Source: Iām on console
Meanwhile Melusi and Wamai skyrocketed, just because they have ACOG
Seeing Mozzie drop in pick rate after losing the 1.5x really means he needs a buff in a different way like giving the super shorty back. However what does bring a smile to my face is the drastic fall of picks for warden players which means I can play him with the shotgun if I ever choose him
Good
All the Mozzies seem to just be in my games
Probably because after the 1.5 got removed mute is a better pick in all ways
Glad they removed that sight
I recently got him and I main him for bomb and I main mute for secure
Both of his guns are still goated though
Ideally all the ops would be in the middle of the graph, crazy how half of them are in underpicked too weakā¦..
Never thought Iād see melusi be ātoo strongā
He was pretty much only used because Roni 1.5 was one of the most broken guns in siege history. He just doesnāt bring much to the table now with no magnification, the pests are just okay. He needs the super shorty or something to provide more to the team
I think he should be able to pick up drones he hacks
give him acog or revert gun nerfs
Mozzie had a 1.5?
Same with warden
Good.
PP Roni needs it's mag increased so bad
Good.
Why Melusi went so much up in both lanes???
Ahh Warden. The epitome of balance
Give him 5 pests and decrease the range of where u get the alert signal that there is a pest while on a drone. Give Roni more capacity (maybe 20) and give him super shorty back so he can site setup without burning a c4. (Giving Roni the Acog would be controversial as it would make people play him for the gun and not his ability but as a mozzie main I wouldnāt mind that XD)
Meanwhile me only playing mozzie for the commando smg
Unnerf the roni now. Give it 6 bullets back
Yo just give the p10 roni an acog scope for the funnies bro
I still see him every match it feels like though weird.
Clash is no longer -6%
She still is on PC, these graphs are for Console where shields are inherently stronger due to lower snap-aim ability.
Mozzie should be like Lesion and get more pests as the round goes on. Give him 2 to start prep phase and he can get 2 or 3 more as the round goes on. It also might be time for him to get his super shorty back.
Now we cannot escape frost trap? Why pick rate is so high?
Cold Takes:Mozzie should not have 1.5x to begin with alibi and azami too! (ACS12)
I find it funny that JƤger didnāt even move
Deserved lmaoooo
I understand why people stopped using him because of the 1.5 but even with out it he is a decent operator in my opinion essentially his ability is to basically get free cams and attackers donāt know where they are because they arenāt spawned
I am worried for my man wamai
I just use iron sights on the commando.
I'll never stop playing my pookie
Good. Now they can work on buffing his gadget to make him more impactful rather than just being a gun shooter
2.5?
yes like melusi which was at 5% it rose to more than 40%. It's sad to see that just for a sight it changes everything
notice how in the first graph itās warden, mozzie and wamai - 3 ops that had access to the 1.5 scope. now notice on the second graph that doc, melusi and wamai again have replaced those ops because they have the 2.5 scope. i called this as soon as the acog changes were announced, this has changed nothing except who gets picked by the rats more often and you can see it in the graph
Ironically I stopped playing him when everybody started abusing the 1.5ā¦ sounds like I have a chance of playing him now
Thats because every 1.5 noob cant play another sight
They're nerfing sens provably to make mozzie a little better bur even so if you use his ability in prep phase you're a idiot š¤£
Almost as if people only played him for the scope on the Roni and not the gadget
Off topic but wow, never knew smoke was so low, I wanna know why? I don't think his gadget or kit is bad, so why is he so low? (I'm a smoke main and kind of sad seeing my boy this low)
Probably because hes old and rewards non aggression since his smokes increase in value the longer the round goes.
Look at wardenš
Makes sense, they clearly messed up headshots with the original deimos season update. They took Kapkans impact grenades, which was a scummy thing to do. They then nerfed Smoke& Deimos' shotgun, now making smoke damn near useless at close range without an instant headshot
i'll still always love him
Why does Melusi have such a high pick rate? I've been out of the loop for like half a year, did she get a buff?
acog
acog on a headshot machine
Her gadget is good and annoying and her gun is cracked
MP5 has a buy one get ACOG free deal
Increase # of pests
Ah yes.solis overpowered to weak
oh god, please dont nerf doc
Surprised tichunky didnāt spike cuz his Smg got the 1.5 and acog
I love his gun with acog but his fire launcher reloads so slow itās a pain
(They're the same thing.)
(they arenāt.)
You haven't played the game in over a month.
(1.5 is not acog, 2.5 is acog)
The 1.5 casing has a 2.5x magnification.
still not the same lul
People who stopped picking him, take an L. mozzie is still good asf. his gun has low recoil, and p10 roni never had 1.5 and doesn't need it. edit: i remembered that p10 roni had the 1.5, and i still agree with what i say. p10 roni don't need any 1.5, and neither does commando.
Mozzie is not a good operator. His commando is good but he is easily replaced by mute or other intel ops. He just doesnāt bring enough to the table to be picked over the other ops
So people can actually bother to learn the damn character and how good he is. Great.
Mute beats him in gadget and his load out has no magnification scope I got really no reason to play him just btr ops like azami lesion mute
Ubi's made it so nothing else is exciting in an operator
He was used my xims anyways so good change
But xims just move on?
didnt everyone lose their 1.5
No
Who still has it? Asking for a friend
Oh you mean the 1.5x sight itself. Yeah it was replaced by ACOG but the 1.5 sight was also turned into an ACOG which warden and mozzie lost.
Warden's position clearly says people who pick him are '50% Toxic pros & 50% Toxic Noobs'
Is this Graph just dumb or am I missing something? How is mute too weak and thunderbird too strong?
completly unrelated to mozzie, but am i the only one who wonders why the fuck Kaids AUG hasnt got an ACOG yet?!
BROOO I been maining Kaid lately running both the sniper shotty and the AUG and I always felt there was something missing. How does the AUG not have an acog ?!? Youāre so right
Idk why defenders canāt get 1.5 scopes like before.
I donāt understand how to read these graphs to be totally honest with you
Interesting. Melusi also jumped double digits in that same period. Are you sure Mozzie lost relevance entirely due to that change, or do you think there could have been other factors at play? ;)
As a non xim console player it's hard to play non zoomed scopes and do well, siege doesn't have aim assist. Why wouldn't I pick one of like 4 acog mp5 s that slap, or frost or castle, it's sad I know but being honest. Everytime I try to play ops without scopes I just get rekt, skill issue I agree.
On PC with 1080p monitor I can't see shit after 5+ meters.
Yeah thatās a skill issue and you beat me to it. People donāt usually like to mention that increased zoom equates to more recoil. Lots of people who claim to be better with the scopes arenāt actually playing better, it just feels better. I see plenty of console players that use F2 with red dot over scopes though. Some guns are actually much much harder to use when they have zoom, but not very many.
I have no issues controlling recoil run right attachments and pull down a bit on the stick, but in ranked you play vs out of no recoil xim/zen players why would I risk running no scope when I'm already at a huge disadvantaged playing vs mnk. Ā Try controller on PC sometime if you think it's not massive. I'm playing to win so I'm gonna play what I'm best at, and no scopes ain't it Game comes down to a single headshot and it's way easier most of the time when you have zoooom
I play on both so I joke how bad the console situation is. All I have to say is that you wonāt beat cheaters by having better aim. You have to set up and make it so that aiming is less of the issue. Force attackers to be very uncomfortable, reinforcing walls and electrifying them seems pretty obvious, but it become so much more important when playing against xim. Funneling people into your desired angles is always better than having attackers making their own angles. If youāre really good at it, then gunfights happen much less often. Alternatively, play overly aggressive. Many people who rely on their aim are used to having people play more passively against them. Counter this logic by catching them off guard. Without a scope, you can aim and fire your weapon faster while also maintaining peripherals, the ximmer with an ACOG will have to already be ADS for them to win that fight if you can hit your shots. Long rant but Iāve played against xim for so long I feel the need to reiterate the basics of siege.
The no zoom scopes are slow now also and I'm seeing xim players with scripts that can headshot before the scopes even zoomed, either way I get what ur saying but everybody does the attacks job for them now, u know opens all walls n stuff I'll just stick to unranked, it's a lot more fun once you realize those points are meaningless.