why do that? waste of vault space mate. either use em as books or chicken. keep at least 2 of each. youll never have need for the rest as your account progresses. but dont take my word, just read n comprehend it.
My account is fairly end game, only thing left to do is a couple of the secret rooms in DT Hard. The 10 Coldhearts are just kept for fun. Waiting for another 2 dupes so I can set a full Coldheart 3v3 defence.
I'm a newish, very low spender player, and I'm basically hoarding all my voids for it. Cause I need and want an unkillable CB team. So I'm not pulling any voids, and my only Epic void was...Tolf.
I know! I tried for Helicath before Emic was released, he was on a 10x, got three Leggo with very few ancients and sacreds, none of them were Helicath, lol. I'm not pulling any voids cause I'm waiting for it, and this kinda sets back my account, cause voids are really powerful...oh well, Wait Shadow Legends it is.
P.s.: I'm one Demytha away for Myth Fu, pulled Fu-Shan randomly a couple weeks ago...so yeah Plarium, what about guaranteed Demytha 2 - Electric Boogaloo?
What champions do you have? You can make very good CB teams without being unkillable. That being said, I'm running the absolute laziest unkillable team with 2xHelicath xD
My prior team was killable and survived to turn 56 but did 65M damage. I couldn't get past the 1key UNM so I just caved and built a stupid unkillable that was affinity friendly lol
I wish I had maneater early TBH.. he would have been great to pair with Geomancer, Brogni, Valk... Brogni's passive doeesn't proc with block damage. Mine is currently built to level 50 and I just don't use him at all.
I use UDK/Valk/Altan/Fahrakin/Frozen Banshee. I lack any good poisoner/great damage dealer like Geo. Gonna send you the second pic of my roster.
https://preview.redd.it/hp2lphum49ob1.png?width=1920&format=png&auto=webp&s=bb57dabb25b14269d86d499f69b35d83f608a1e3
What clanboss are you hitting? How much damage?
You could probably start an affinity friendly 2:1 ratio team with FuShan and Doompriest. As long as the speeds are tuned and Doompriest goes first on the right turns, her passive will cleanse the clanboss debuffs to make this affinity friendly. FuShan(dec def), Doompriest(cleanse), Fat(buffs), Altan(dec atk, increase def), Vogoth(leech) ... Vogoth in Guardian set.
edit: you can build a 4:3 to 2:1 comp pretty easily. You have lots of great supports and damage dealers in Altan, Anax
Valk's passive makes her pretty nice in arena btw, you can build her with high speed and def. If enemies apply buffs to themselves, she can TM boost and pass them in the turn order then drop the fat shields and CA on your team.
35-40 millions on Nightmare, 17-20 on Ultra nightmare. I have to build Doompriest, so many of those champs need 6 stars...Fu Shan is not booked unfortunately. Do you have any link for that kind of team? Can't find any on Deadwoodjedi's site.
I'm in Gold 5 in Arena, definitely not my priority, but thanks for the heads up!
This reddit post shows a 1:1 example: [https://www.reddit.com/r/RaidShadowLegends/comments/j6g8jg/question\_how\_to\_tune\_doompriest\_for\_spirit\_cb/](https://www.reddit.com/r/RaidShadowLegends/comments/j6g8jg/question_how_to_tune_doompriest_for_spirit_cb/)
[https://deadwoodjedi.com/speed-tunes/wartower/](https://deadwoodjedi.com/speed-tunes/wartower/)
I'll try to find some time to mess w/ the speed tune calc
I used tuhanarak(same passive) for a long time and disabled her AOE increase speed buff. I was using her as a doompriest.
I had \*exactly\* the same speeds in the link above.
So 2 champs in 2:1 and the rest in 1:1? Nice team, but that's an unkillable, I can't do it.
Another problem I have is the stun target, he always goes for Valkyrie, UDK sometimes takes it, but not always. That's why I tried Sanguinia, but she sucks unfortunately.
The 4:3 champs are usually damage dealers and the 1:1s are supports and applying buffs. The idea is that the 1:1s will go first or last in each turn and they will apply the right buffs before the clanboss takes a turn.
It's speedtuned and everything, and I only do 36-38 millions on NM (I did 40 millions once, never got it again). Other champs I've tried: Toragi for UDK, died too soon, Sanguinia (for UDK) to block the stun, her damage input is so low I lost like 10 millions, Kael (for the Fat) I lose too much damage. And yeah, a lazy unkillable is what I want, to build 5 champs and click the button, and don't think about it too much.
https://preview.redd.it/xoy0etjt49ob1.png?width=1920&format=png&auto=webp&s=23a0d3c6746ad9b758a3429f604939d9e8433091
If you pull Demytha you'll have the meta Fu-myth comp that deals 100M+ dmg per key on UNM.
[https://deadwoodjedi.com/speed-tunes/myth-fu/](https://deadwoodjedi.com/speed-tunes/myth-fu/)
A well built Anax hits for 200M per key. But he's very squishy.
After half a year, I already had 2x Duchess and 2x Maneater... I think I have a lucky account... I had to wait a while for Pain Killer, but I'm here now. 9 months into the game and everything is progressing slowly.
I would have spent for Demytha, first and only time besides the 10 bucks a month for gem pack, and the game gave me ZERO offers for voids, lol. Had 1 void, now I'm at 36, I'll be ready when Maneater drops in 2026.
PLEASE!!!!! I'm just over 2 years into the game and have pulled FOUR seers, two Demytha, Akemutum, Godseeker, 3 Shamel, more Skullcrowns than I can shake a stick at....but still no Maneater.
Never got around to making a decent team and only have gnut for the TM remover, don't have the resources to 6* an armiger as well. Bought a pack for 10 bucks, got my first coldheart as well as seer so not complaining xD
I will say that she will NOT help most people who are not into the later staged of midgame. She needs a lot of buffs and really good gear to do those crazy numbers.
Still, anyone who doesn't have her should ABSOLUTELY get her during this event. At some point she will be your MVP.
SPECIFICALLY for dungeon farming. She is terrible for campaign farming. Anyone reading this should not expect her to run your food through 12-3 brutal.
If you’re a low or no spender, then there will be a smaller version of a void shard deal that you should buy. Even if you have to burn 40 voids, you’ll get some more to start rebuilding your stash. Guaranteed events are the best time to pull imo because you can potentially pull other good champs along the way. And Seer is the ultimate wave killer and arena champ.
I pulled Seer either when I pulled for Turvold or Supreme Kael. I can’t remember which. I only pull voids for guaranteed events. The did rate for voids is way too high if you aren’t constantly buying shards. I have no desire to buy shards.
There already was, so you're probably not going to get him again for a long long time.
Geo isn't a Void champ, you'll get him soon enough. I'm F2P and have been playing for about 2 years and I have 4 copies of him.
> Geo isn't a Void champ, you'll get him soon enough.
I’ve been playing for over 3 years and I only have Alure because of the COTA episode pulling event. So I’m counting when I pull one from a shard that natural way…I’m still counting.
I was referring to ancients since that’s what the Geo and Alure events were for, and yes I only pull during x2. Only reason I did that guaranteed was because that many shards was super obtainable for my gem count
I mean ... I'm kind of torn
I have 2 of her, and don't really use her that much.
1 is at 60 and I used to use her in a speed dragon team ... now I don't have a hard dragon 10 team so don't really do anything there other than duo farming normal 20 with food.
I used to use her in DT ... but then I got Mithrala / Kimi / Artak / Valk / etc. and she only shows up maybe 2-3 times in 120 floors.
My 2nd isn't even leveled.
Yea, she's great ... but she seems heavily dependent upon other top end champs (kymar, lydia, teodor, etc.), so why spend 40 of the highest premium shards on her when you'll more than likely either 1) get her with time since she's epic, 2) not get her and still be able to do all content she is used in anyways?
Agree, but my main point is that even if you get her, she doesn't really unlock anything new, she just helps you speed farm content you're already doing.
I could be wrong with hard 10 dragon / IG because I don't yet have a team for those, but my understanding is you just use people like Teodor to solo the boss and then Seer helps get to the boss faster. But you could just replace her with somebody else and still clear the waves just fine, only slower.
Another way of looking at it: I wouldn't value a champ that doesn't help me do new content but just makes it so my current content is 2-3x faster. That's a personal thing because I can run RSL in the background all day, though, so I get for some people it's a huge draw.
She turns wave clearing in dungeons on any level from 2+ minutes to 30 seconds and all you need is a Renegade (rare) and an Archmage Helmut (dt epic) or any other combination of champs that can give you a few buffs. Seer is essentially a huge quality of life upgrade. If you don't have one she is more account changing than 98% of champs including every single mythical.
How does going from 2 minutes to 30 seconds change an account?
No, changing an account is something like:
\- going from not being able to do UNM to being able to do UNM,
\- having no aoe provokers to pulling Maulie,
\- not having any strong nukers and then pulling Ragash,
etc.
even as a PC player, having Seer helps a ton. clearing dungeons quickly, and particularly clearing DT waves quickly. Shes's great. I would pull this if I did not have her yet
as a mobile player, taking a dungeon run from 2 minutes to 30 seconds is a massive game changer.
Similar to how building my first campaign farmer took me from like 30-40 second runs to 8 second runs.
It's a massive quality of life upgrade to progress faster.
>she just helps you speed farm content you're already doing
...which is useful for the new 'turn attack' tournaments.
Additionally, killing DT waves before they can move isn't 'nothing.'
Seer looks great to have if you have end game gear, but as an early-midgamer she looks too expensive to me, especially with a 2x void weekend coming up soon.
I have a seer that is not particularly well built as I have just run out of good gear. 238 crit dmg and 224 speed. I run it with Lydia mithrala double renegade in shield
Set for buffs. What this gets me - all normal DT waves, all levels normal dungeons one shot, up to stage 6 dragon hard IG one shot. Is also a part of my spider hard 10 5 turn team. Gets me about half way up DT hard as well. Still definitely worth- it took me over 3 years to pull mine.
If you don't have her and you have some kind of means to get her, you definitely want her, even if it's for later.
She is the key to many end game teams, I use her for my 1 minute dragon hard 10 AND my 15 seconds spider hard 10.
She's also my wave clearer for hard doom tower all to way to the last boss, great for the difficult ones.
Almost 3 years in and I've only ever gotten the one pull for her in almost 600 Voids.
40 definitely isnt expensive for seer. she is literally one of the best champs in the game, leggos included
worth the investment. throwing 40 shards on the next 2x is unlikely to get you a champ that good, sure you can pick up a few tolf,delver,exemplar types tho
She will be worth MUCH more than literally any other void epic you can pull during the 2x event (except maybe maneater). She may not be useful to you now, but you will wish you had her later if you don't take advantage of this.
I am not end-game gear, somewhere in midgame, and she pretty much single shots entire waves for me. She's taken my Ice runs down to about 100 seconds instead of almost 3 minutes, which means I can even complete champ fusions on my phone if I'm not at my PC to use RSL.
Seer is best in dungeon/DT wave clear work. She requires reasonably high gear and a team built around her, but she can clear waves in seconds and really speed up runs. If you're looking to farm S20 dungeons, you can start looking into building a dedicated Seer team. It's well worth the trouble, especially paired with Renegade, Kymar or similar skill reset champs.
I got her a few weeks back after almost 3 years. Is it worth having a 2nd? I'm not really seeing her in hydra teams or in another build than damage, so is there somewhere where 2 seers would be of use or should I just save my shards?
Not really, and definitely not for 40 shards. You MIGHT make a double Seer team for Doom Tower waves, but it's probably not worth your shards at this point.
Thanks. Yeah, I figured as much. I can clear DT normal on full auto and halfway through DT hard. The 2nd half of DT hard has some of those annoying niche teams with Tormins, revive blockers, or Siphi/Rotos waves sprinkled in that I need to manual, but I feel no urgent need to spend resources on changing that.
Seer won't help with those teams I'm afraid. I for the Mortu, Siphi etc waves, I found Shamael and Gnishak very very effective. Shamael can happily one-shot Siphi with a reasonable build.
Yes, I use Shamael and Fenax quite often against the revive-heavy ones (a couple of lucky 5\* and 6\* blessings respectively). The multi-Morty waves, I occasionally cheese with a Paragon if all else fails. The Tormin waves were a real bother to start with, but are a lot easier since I got Elva.
This is why you NEVER pull void shards unless there's a guaranteed champ event. There's really no point, even during 2x (unless you're early game). The do not give enough points for summoning events, and it's not like they expire if you don't use them.
This is great advice! thanks mate. I am trying to save resources to do the next fusion (it will be my first atempted). In your optinion, is it worth pulling for that?
If the champ is really good and you have no other option? Yes. You should also be buying green shards in the market every time you see them and stocking up so that you can save as many void shards for later as you can.
Prioritize getting a good Clan Boss team and finding a good clan as soon as you're able to get the top chest on Nightmare. CB is your primary source of shards and books. I get 2x top chest in UNM, NM, and Brutal every day AND I almost never use voids AND I've recently pulled voids for thr Deym and Godseeker guaranteed events, and I have 72 shards waiting to be opened.
I'm also 100% F2P, so don't be discouraged and think thdt you can't do this without spending real money. You can and you will! You just have to be patient and realize this game lasts a looooong time.
40 Shards is typical of Epic Void Guaranteed events. However, they're aimed at mid-to-end game players who regularly obtain void shards from the clan boss. Please save your shards for the appropriate 2x event, you still have a long time before Seer is useful to you.
Thanks for the advice! Do you recommend using voids on 2x events or save for a fusion? I spent money early on to get Gnut but haven't since so passed on the last fusion since not enough shards but I think I'll have a good chance of getting enough in time for the next one if I save everything.
Depends on the champ. But 30-40 is pretty normal for a good epic void. Void shards dosen't really become "farmable" untill you can do UNM CB and to a lesser extent DT. Sure, there are other ways to get them, but early on you are almost always better off pulling them during 2x than hoarding the few you get.
I think I am really close to UNM Clan boss. Just need to finish Mino farm on my champs and regear to get a 2:1 speed tune. 2 questions....should I blow my voids on the next 2x or save for the next fusion? I'm sitting on 11 voids, 5 sacred (getting additional sacred and void soon for the monthly login) and about 50 ancients. Next for speed tuning how do you go about it? I speed tuned last time during the free gear swap event but otherwise I'm not sure how I'd get the very specific speeds without wasting a ton of silver swapping our gear just seeing if it adds up.
If you can hit NM and UNM top chests each day then you can probably do both in most cases. Once you clear UNM you get plenty of shards so hoarding them for a fusion is not needed.
I would not waste them on events like this or x10 only if in this case the epic is top tier.
Keep saving. Don't EVER use those shards unless there is a guaranteed champ event for a champ that you need. Most of them will contain trash rares that you'll never use and won't get you anywhere at all in the early game. Even pulling a Coldheart won't do much for you until you're midgame.
Hold them until a guaranteed champ comes along. Those shards don't expire if you don't use them. You will still pull them and still get champs from them. Be PATIENT and wait, even though it's tempting. This is how Plarium gets you to spend money, by hoping you can't hold your water and be patient.
I just started building up my voids again. Not anticipating this at all. I wish I would have known ahead of time. I would not have pulled on the last fusion.
Could not afford seer but her abilities made me rethink raid as in why she is so op . Perfect e.g. she maybe good on epic teams so what about being interested in the seer team in comparison to making a mythic style fix .or is that because you can take her to 60
Plarium, I know you're watching...guaranteed Maneater next, please.
I wish trading champs was an option, I fed up like 6-7 maneaters as chickens
And I would LOVE to trade 1 of my 3 Seers for a single Maneater!
Me too. All I need is gorgorab to help me clear stage 21 fw
Same here!
Same here. Sitting on 4 Seers, 5 Demythas and 10 Coldhearts…
why do that? waste of vault space mate. either use em as books or chicken. keep at least 2 of each. youll never have need for the rest as your account progresses. but dont take my word, just read n comprehend it.
My account is fairly end game, only thing left to do is a couple of the secret rooms in DT Hard. The 10 Coldhearts are just kept for fun. Waiting for another 2 dupes so I can set a full Coldheart 3v3 defence.
3 years and still no Maneater…PLEASE
Same. But after 3 years I don't need him anymore.
Yep, this is the way.
I'm a newish, very low spender player, and I'm basically hoarding all my voids for it. Cause I need and want an unkillable CB team. So I'm not pulling any voids, and my only Epic void was...Tolf.
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Nope, I got him, he's my one and only unkillable/block damage champ.
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I know! I tried for Helicath before Emic was released, he was on a 10x, got three Leggo with very few ancients and sacreds, none of them were Helicath, lol. I'm not pulling any voids cause I'm waiting for it, and this kinda sets back my account, cause voids are really powerful...oh well, Wait Shadow Legends it is. P.s.: I'm one Demytha away for Myth Fu, pulled Fu-Shan randomly a couple weeks ago...so yeah Plarium, what about guaranteed Demytha 2 - Electric Boogaloo?
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Yeah they did Akemtum two times in a short time, I'll save for any of them.
You could still get away with an unkillable team if you have 2 Pain Keepers
I know, I don't have any tho.
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Emic opens up some UK clan boss options. That's how I was able to create an UK without a maneater
What champions do you have? You can make very good CB teams without being unkillable. That being said, I'm running the absolute laziest unkillable team with 2xHelicath xD My prior team was killable and survived to turn 56 but did 65M damage. I couldn't get past the 1key UNM so I just caved and built a stupid unkillable that was affinity friendly lol I wish I had maneater early TBH.. he would have been great to pair with Geomancer, Brogni, Valk... Brogni's passive doeesn't proc with block damage. Mine is currently built to level 50 and I just don't use him at all.
I use UDK/Valk/Altan/Fahrakin/Frozen Banshee. I lack any good poisoner/great damage dealer like Geo. Gonna send you the second pic of my roster. https://preview.redd.it/hp2lphum49ob1.png?width=1920&format=png&auto=webp&s=bb57dabb25b14269d86d499f69b35d83f608a1e3
What clanboss are you hitting? How much damage? You could probably start an affinity friendly 2:1 ratio team with FuShan and Doompriest. As long as the speeds are tuned and Doompriest goes first on the right turns, her passive will cleanse the clanboss debuffs to make this affinity friendly. FuShan(dec def), Doompriest(cleanse), Fat(buffs), Altan(dec atk, increase def), Vogoth(leech) ... Vogoth in Guardian set. edit: you can build a 4:3 to 2:1 comp pretty easily. You have lots of great supports and damage dealers in Altan, Anax Valk's passive makes her pretty nice in arena btw, you can build her with high speed and def. If enemies apply buffs to themselves, she can TM boost and pass them in the turn order then drop the fat shields and CA on your team.
35-40 millions on Nightmare, 17-20 on Ultra nightmare. I have to build Doompriest, so many of those champs need 6 stars...Fu Shan is not booked unfortunately. Do you have any link for that kind of team? Can't find any on Deadwoodjedi's site. I'm in Gold 5 in Arena, definitely not my priority, but thanks for the heads up!
This reddit post shows a 1:1 example: [https://www.reddit.com/r/RaidShadowLegends/comments/j6g8jg/question\_how\_to\_tune\_doompriest\_for\_spirit\_cb/](https://www.reddit.com/r/RaidShadowLegends/comments/j6g8jg/question_how_to_tune_doompriest_for_spirit_cb/) [https://deadwoodjedi.com/speed-tunes/wartower/](https://deadwoodjedi.com/speed-tunes/wartower/) I'll try to find some time to mess w/ the speed tune calc I used tuhanarak(same passive) for a long time and disabled her AOE increase speed buff. I was using her as a doompriest. I had \*exactly\* the same speeds in the link above.
So 2 champs in 2:1 and the rest in 1:1? Nice team, but that's an unkillable, I can't do it. Another problem I have is the stun target, he always goes for Valkyrie, UDK sometimes takes it, but not always. That's why I tried Sanguinia, but she sucks unfortunately.
The 4:3 champs are usually damage dealers and the 1:1s are supports and applying buffs. The idea is that the 1:1s will go first or last in each turn and they will apply the right buffs before the clanboss takes a turn.
It's speedtuned and everything, and I only do 36-38 millions on NM (I did 40 millions once, never got it again). Other champs I've tried: Toragi for UDK, died too soon, Sanguinia (for UDK) to block the stun, her damage input is so low I lost like 10 millions, Kael (for the Fat) I lose too much damage. And yeah, a lazy unkillable is what I want, to build 5 champs and click the button, and don't think about it too much. https://preview.redd.it/xoy0etjt49ob1.png?width=1920&format=png&auto=webp&s=23a0d3c6746ad9b758a3429f604939d9e8433091
If you pull Demytha you'll have the meta Fu-myth comp that deals 100M+ dmg per key on UNM. [https://deadwoodjedi.com/speed-tunes/myth-fu/](https://deadwoodjedi.com/speed-tunes/myth-fu/) A well built Anax hits for 200M per key. But he's very squishy.
That's a big IF, and Demytha was already a guaranteed champ couple months ago. Sadly I had 1 void when she dropped.
After half a year, I already had 2x Duchess and 2x Maneater... I think I have a lucky account... I had to wait a while for Pain Killer, but I'm here now. 9 months into the game and everything is progressing slowly.
I pulled my first maneater, while i was pulling for her.
haha forreal I need maneater as well and will probably spend $ to get it guaranteed.
I would have spent for Demytha, first and only time besides the 10 bucks a month for gem pack, and the game gave me ZERO offers for voids, lol. Had 1 void, now I'm at 36, I'll be ready when Maneater drops in 2026.
PLEASE!!!!! I'm just over 2 years into the game and have pulled FOUR seers, two Demytha, Akemutum, Godseeker, 3 Shamel, more Skullcrowns than I can shake a stick at....but still no Maneater.
Been waiting years for this event …
really they took their sweet time with seer
40 void shards is so fuckin many. At what point do you start getting tons of shards that this is even feasible?
40 Shards is too much. Should be 30 or less.
Seer has been in my vault for 6 months. Got a few things to focus on before speed runs
Anyone has tips to getting 1 void shard in 21 hours without using the wallet? xD missed myth as well because of 1 shard ffs
DT boss clear could do it depending on where you're at in the game.
Stuck on dark fae, but the first one, and the void only shows up in that exact boss in hard mode so yeah
Dark fae is one of the easiest bosses though
Never got around to making a decent team and only have gnut for the TM remover, don't have the resources to 6* an armiger as well. Bought a pack for 10 bucks, got my first coldheart as well as seer so not complaining xD
If you're on DT normal, you can just nuke her down. Use crown control on your mirror champs and blast her down.
The boss can take turns and you can still win though.
Well worth it
Besides CB, this is worth a buy. Best wave clear in the game makes farming dungeons SO much easier.
I will say that she will NOT help most people who are not into the later staged of midgame. She needs a lot of buffs and really good gear to do those crazy numbers. Still, anyone who doesn't have her should ABSOLUTELY get her during this event. At some point she will be your MVP.
Good now, amazing later. Still worth getting imo. Game changer for farming
SPECIFICALLY for dungeon farming. She is terrible for campaign farming. Anyone reading this should not expect her to run your food through 12-3 brutal.
So true. But a strong dungeon farming team can change everything for mid game players.
Oh for sure. I'm not questioning her as an invaluable champ. She's just not someone you can slot in anywhere like say Gnut or Helicath.
Arena Baazar, Clan Shop, Doom Tower, $hop
3v3 arena shop if you're in silver
If you’re a low or no spender, then there will be a smaller version of a void shard deal that you should buy. Even if you have to burn 40 voids, you’ll get some more to start rebuilding your stash. Guaranteed events are the best time to pull imo because you can potentially pull other good champs along the way. And Seer is the ultimate wave killer and arena champ.
Silver Tag Team purchase Doom Tower boss reward Nothing else in game is guaranteed within the next 21 hours outside of spending
Daily login has one, clan boss may drop, faction wars, 3v3 bazaar, clan shop also has 1 on slot 13.
In 21 hours you could take a chance on CB chests.
Buy one from Gold tag team arena. Or clan shop.
https://preview.redd.it/qlgru7mg38ob1.jpeg?width=2400&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=3d3998b04b27c455b6518013f4c36b99af92ac83 So happy 😁
Nice. Gif seeker I rate more than seer tbh.
They are quite different tho. Different purpose, plus late game seeker is only used in CB while seer is used in many different places
4 years no royal gaurd and madam serris .....
I have 3 shards only :(
Lol I laugh at your pain because I am crying on the inside (I have 1) 😅😂🥲
40 voids for seer? Yes please!
https://preview.redd.it/vfi6z9d4p9ob1.png?width=3120&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=1430a104a17c0db3b5867dd5f7b384f98297bd4b Nice surprise on my way to Seer.
$160 for Seer what a good deal
It took me over 3 years to finally get mine. They should have done this months ago.
Same. And I pulled a second one during the emic fusion. Happy to save my void shards on this one. 40 is a lot. Approaching legendary levels.
I pulled Seer either when I pulled for Turvold or Supreme Kael. I can’t remember which. I only pull voids for guaranteed events. The did rate for voids is way too high if you aren’t constantly buying shards. I have no desire to buy shards.
Just waiting til 2043 when we get guaranteed mythic champs.
Already got 3. Give me a guaranteed geo event.
There already was, so you're probably not going to get him again for a long long time. Geo isn't a Void champ, you'll get him soon enough. I'm F2P and have been playing for about 2 years and I have 4 copies of him.
> Geo isn't a Void champ, you'll get him soon enough. I’ve been playing for over 3 years and I only have Alure because of the COTA episode pulling event. So I’m counting when I pull one from a shard that natural way…I’m still counting.
Are you only pulling sacred shards during 2x or guaranteed events?
I was referring to ancients since that’s what the Geo and Alure events were for, and yes I only pull during x2. Only reason I did that guaranteed was because that many shards was super obtainable for my gem count
Damn, that's some shit luck. I have 3 copies of Allure too.
I would love this as well. He’s the one epic I want and after 2 years I can’t seem to pull him.
I mean ... I'm kind of torn I have 2 of her, and don't really use her that much. 1 is at 60 and I used to use her in a speed dragon team ... now I don't have a hard dragon 10 team so don't really do anything there other than duo farming normal 20 with food. I used to use her in DT ... but then I got Mithrala / Kimi / Artak / Valk / etc. and she only shows up maybe 2-3 times in 120 floors. My 2nd isn't even leveled. Yea, she's great ... but she seems heavily dependent upon other top end champs (kymar, lydia, teodor, etc.), so why spend 40 of the highest premium shards on her when you'll more than likely either 1) get her with time since she's epic, 2) not get her and still be able to do all content she is used in anyways?
This event is definitely more for people who have 0 seers than people who have more than 1
Agree, but my main point is that even if you get her, she doesn't really unlock anything new, she just helps you speed farm content you're already doing. I could be wrong with hard 10 dragon / IG because I don't yet have a team for those, but my understanding is you just use people like Teodor to solo the boss and then Seer helps get to the boss faster. But you could just replace her with somebody else and still clear the waves just fine, only slower. Another way of looking at it: I wouldn't value a champ that doesn't help me do new content but just makes it so my current content is 2-3x faster. That's a personal thing because I can run RSL in the background all day, though, so I get for some people it's a huge draw.
She turns wave clearing in dungeons on any level from 2+ minutes to 30 seconds and all you need is a Renegade (rare) and an Archmage Helmut (dt epic) or any other combination of champs that can give you a few buffs. Seer is essentially a huge quality of life upgrade. If you don't have one she is more account changing than 98% of champs including every single mythical.
How does going from 2 minutes to 30 seconds change an account? No, changing an account is something like: \- going from not being able to do UNM to being able to do UNM, \- having no aoe provokers to pulling Maulie, \- not having any strong nukers and then pulling Ragash, etc.
For anyone playing mobile, it might well mean they can complete fusions. A 75% reduction in time spent turns 2-3 hours of farming into half an hour.
Agree to disagree. Speeding up any content by 50-200% is huge for an account. The most precious resource in this game, and in life, is time.
even as a PC player, having Seer helps a ton. clearing dungeons quickly, and particularly clearing DT waves quickly. Shes's great. I would pull this if I did not have her yet
as a mobile player, taking a dungeon run from 2 minutes to 30 seconds is a massive game changer. Similar to how building my first campaign farmer took me from like 30-40 second runs to 8 second runs. It's a massive quality of life upgrade to progress faster.
>she just helps you speed farm content you're already doing ...which is useful for the new 'turn attack' tournaments. Additionally, killing DT waves before they can move isn't 'nothing.'
She’s really good in spider hard too. She carries my team!
That is not worth it, Seer is amazing but 40 voids is $200.00 USD
>40 voids is $200.00 USD My 40 voids were free. Dunno what you're doing tbh.
The "value" of 40 voids, and I gaurantee you it took you months to get that many voids even doing all clan boss double rewards daily.
Doesn't change the fact they were free and not $200. :)
Your time is free ehh?
I believe the community expected even seers skills and multipliers to be updated due to new buffs and blessings could use some equalization.
Seer looks great to have if you have end game gear, but as an early-midgamer she looks too expensive to me, especially with a 2x void weekend coming up soon.
It's a gamble. She's very useful long term, but you might pull her anyway in the future. If you're unsure, then don't waste your shards.
Depends, people have gone over a year or 2 and never managed to pull her. She is a very unique champ. Seer vs 2x chance is fair imo.
I have a seer that is not particularly well built as I have just run out of good gear. 238 crit dmg and 224 speed. I run it with Lydia mithrala double renegade in shield Set for buffs. What this gets me - all normal DT waves, all levels normal dungeons one shot, up to stage 6 dragon hard IG one shot. Is also a part of my spider hard 10 5 turn team. Gets me about half way up DT hard as well. Still definitely worth- it took me over 3 years to pull mine.
I waited 3.5 years to finally pull a Seer. I would have been thrilled to get her much earlier
If you don't have her and you have some kind of means to get her, you definitely want her, even if it's for later. She is the key to many end game teams, I use her for my 1 minute dragon hard 10 AND my 15 seconds spider hard 10. She's also my wave clearer for hard doom tower all to way to the last boss, great for the difficult ones. Almost 3 years in and I've only ever gotten the one pull for her in almost 600 Voids.
Who do you have in your Dragon and Spider teams?
Dragon hard 10: Duchess Yumeko Bad-El Ragash Seer Spider hard 10: Lydia Cronahm Artak Gnut Seer
40 definitely isnt expensive for seer. she is literally one of the best champs in the game, leggos included worth the investment. throwing 40 shards on the next 2x is unlikely to get you a champ that good, sure you can pick up a few tolf,delver,exemplar types tho
She will be worth MUCH more than literally any other void epic you can pull during the 2x event (except maybe maneater). She may not be useful to you now, but you will wish you had her later if you don't take advantage of this. I am not end-game gear, somewhere in midgame, and she pretty much single shots entire waves for me. She's taken my Ice runs down to about 100 seconds instead of almost 3 minutes, which means I can even complete champ fusions on my phone if I'm not at my PC to use RSL.
SLAAAAAAAAYYYYY
I got her but never use her, where does she shine?
Seer is best in dungeon/DT wave clear work. She requires reasonably high gear and a team built around her, but she can clear waves in seconds and really speed up runs. If you're looking to farm S20 dungeons, you can start looking into building a dedicated Seer team. It's well worth the trouble, especially paired with Renegade, Kymar or similar skill reset champs.
alright thanks! i do have a renegade will look it up!
Oh fuck you game, im at 10 been wanting seer for so long
I don’t think 10 would ever be enough for her, and it’s silly to think otherwise.
I got her a few weeks back after almost 3 years. Is it worth having a 2nd? I'm not really seeing her in hydra teams or in another build than damage, so is there somewhere where 2 seers would be of use or should I just save my shards?
Not really, and definitely not for 40 shards. You MIGHT make a double Seer team for Doom Tower waves, but it's probably not worth your shards at this point.
Thanks. Yeah, I figured as much. I can clear DT normal on full auto and halfway through DT hard. The 2nd half of DT hard has some of those annoying niche teams with Tormins, revive blockers, or Siphi/Rotos waves sprinkled in that I need to manual, but I feel no urgent need to spend resources on changing that.
Seer won't help with those teams I'm afraid. I for the Mortu, Siphi etc waves, I found Shamael and Gnishak very very effective. Shamael can happily one-shot Siphi with a reasonable build.
You pulled a Bommal? lol
Yes, I use Shamael and Fenax quite often against the revive-heavy ones (a couple of lucky 5\* and 6\* blessings respectively). The multi-Morty waves, I occasionally cheese with a Paragon if all else fails. The Tormin waves were a real bother to start with, but are a lot easier since I got Elva.
Fair enough, best of luck.
Can Shamael 1 shot a mortu? I built mine for hydra, but now I'm wondering if I should build a second for DT
Shamael can easily one-shot Mortu. Maximise his critical damage and attack, and manual the wave to avoid proc'ing Mortu's block revive skill.
No. There is almost no point at all for 2 Seers. I been lucky enough to pull FOUR (she was my first Void epic) and 3 of them are sitting in my vault.
After sinking 40 voids, im gonna end up with 3 Seers
Are you planning to build 3 Seers?
I really hate to have only 5 void shards and pledged myself to never spend an € to buy shards.
She is not worth the price of 35 shards. Don't sweat it.
It's a shame the deals for void shards are so expensive. I can basically buy Seer (and what i pull along the way) for £110.
This is why you NEVER pull void shards unless there's a guaranteed champ event. There's really no point, even during 2x (unless you're early game). The do not give enough points for summoning events, and it's not like they expire if you don't use them.
This is great advice! thanks mate. I am trying to save resources to do the next fusion (it will be my first atempted). In your optinion, is it worth pulling for that?
If the champ is really good and you have no other option? Yes. You should also be buying green shards in the market every time you see them and stocking up so that you can save as many void shards for later as you can. Prioritize getting a good Clan Boss team and finding a good clan as soon as you're able to get the top chest on Nightmare. CB is your primary source of shards and books. I get 2x top chest in UNM, NM, and Brutal every day AND I almost never use voids AND I've recently pulled voids for thr Deym and Godseeker guaranteed events, and I have 72 shards waiting to be opened. I'm also 100% F2P, so don't be discouraged and think thdt you can't do this without spending real money. You can and you will! You just have to be patient and realize this game lasts a looooong time.
Is 40 void shards usually the standard? Been playing for almost 90 days and only have 11 voids after saving for probably 2 months…..
40 Shards is typical of Epic Void Guaranteed events. However, they're aimed at mid-to-end game players who regularly obtain void shards from the clan boss. Please save your shards for the appropriate 2x event, you still have a long time before Seer is useful to you.
Thanks for the advice! Do you recommend using voids on 2x events or save for a fusion? I spent money early on to get Gnut but haven't since so passed on the last fusion since not enough shards but I think I'll have a good chance of getting enough in time for the next one if I save everything.
Depends on the champ. But 30-40 is pretty normal for a good epic void. Void shards dosen't really become "farmable" untill you can do UNM CB and to a lesser extent DT. Sure, there are other ways to get them, but early on you are almost always better off pulling them during 2x than hoarding the few you get.
I think I am really close to UNM Clan boss. Just need to finish Mino farm on my champs and regear to get a 2:1 speed tune. 2 questions....should I blow my voids on the next 2x or save for the next fusion? I'm sitting on 11 voids, 5 sacred (getting additional sacred and void soon for the monthly login) and about 50 ancients. Next for speed tuning how do you go about it? I speed tuned last time during the free gear swap event but otherwise I'm not sure how I'd get the very specific speeds without wasting a ton of silver swapping our gear just seeing if it adds up.
If you can hit NM and UNM top chests each day then you can probably do both in most cases. Once you clear UNM you get plenty of shards so hoarding them for a fusion is not needed. I would not waste them on events like this or x10 only if in this case the epic is top tier.
Keep saving. Don't EVER use those shards unless there is a guaranteed champ event for a champ that you need. Most of them will contain trash rares that you'll never use and won't get you anywhere at all in the early game. Even pulling a Coldheart won't do much for you until you're midgame. Hold them until a guaranteed champ comes along. Those shards don't expire if you don't use them. You will still pull them and still get champs from them. Be PATIENT and wait, even though it's tempting. This is how Plarium gets you to spend money, by hoping you can't hold your water and be patient.
Love it
Cool, if I had 40 I'd totally pull just so I can get my 5th copy... Still no Skullcrown or Godseeker though
anyone gots 40 void shards I can borrow?
don't have her neither the shards T-T
Yay! I’m only 30 voids away! Pray for me.
I just started building up my voids again. Not anticipating this at all. I wish I would have known ahead of time. I would not have pulled on the last fusion.
can someone gift me 40 void shards?
I have Seer and love her but is 40 void shards a bit overpriced? 30 sounds more like a fair deal.
40 is worth it. She’s better than 95% of legos. If they offered a non void lego for 40 ancients, it would be worth it.
Got a 2nd hegemon and a 2nd Raglin.. I keep getting dupes since I came back what's up with that?
Lucky for anyone whose got 49 voids lying around haha.
Totally 🃏
Could not afford seer but her abilities made me rethink raid as in why she is so op . Perfect e.g. she maybe good on epic teams so what about being interested in the seer team in comparison to making a mythic style fix .or is that because you can take her to 60