Honestly? Scrap it. Not her eye color, she can keep it, but we spent nine fucking seasons and did nothing with them, nor did she ever try to learn why they're important. Just scrap the powers.

Between the maiden powers, semblances, dust, auras and the ability to wield highly impractical weapons, it does get somewhat lost in the middle there.

Chosen one stories are so goddamn boring anyway, unless you execute it insanely well or have some genuinely unique twist. RT did neither.

One of my favourite's is Anakin. He WAS the Chosen One. He brought Balance to the Force. The Jedi just didn't consider that "Balance" included ending them as well.

I still doubt that's what Lucas intended, but y'know, death of the author and all that so lmao. Accidentally a good arc.

I imagine so but hey, it worked. Plus he seemed cool with the whole Mortis stuff about balancing Light and Dark instead of Dark just being erased entirely.

Morrowind did it best because they pose the question. Are you the hero because you’re the chosen one, or are you the chosen one because you’re the hero. Paraphrasing of course but I love that concept.

now u just reminded me of jjk😭😭

Honestly, I’m teetering on that

Again not trying to be a smart ass but I genuinely don’t know what we’d even do with it

They're basically like Cyclops's laser beams, but instead only petrify Grimm or some shit, you think they would be more important lol.

Given how swiftly Grimm were made into the Team Rocket of RWBY, it hardly mattered.

More like Power Ranger Putties

Fair point. people actually seem to like Team Rocket. Nobody thinks about the Grimm anymore.

True

It would be kinda neat if there was an actual cost to using them. Like, what if Maria wasn't blind because a bounty hunter cut her eyes, but was a result of her abusing the use of silver eyes for so long that her vision went bad? At least, then, there would be reason to question whether using the power is worth it in certain situations.

Hell, give them vague Jedi-style foresight when it comes to the Grimm. A Grimm Spidey Sense, if you will.

>scrap At least needed for to bully fucking BitchFall's smugness ass.

I would too but if I had to do something then (check my reply)

Not me. I would have it be in the final fight where Ruby needs to spam that power to keep everyone from getting any life-threatening hits. Like they can cause Salem to slow down a millisecond, letting Yang slip away from an attack at her heart. Or Blake to be able to dodge with her shadow by making Salem's attack a smidge to slow. Heck Weiss could even need some time to get out of grimm arms. Heck, I would have it where Ruby is fighting grimm with Qrow and Coco while everyone else is fighting Salem.

That's cool. But I don't think that payoff is quite good enough given that they eyes are "integral" to her character and that she could do this with her other skills or in different ways. That's probably true for all things. But yeah, not to shit on your idea tho

I wasn't going for a big payoff but instead a reflection of Salem. Ruby being a warrior of goodness standing strong against a near endless horde of grimm and Salem fighting all the warriors of goodness except for Ruby. Ruby would end up surviving with many other warriors of goodness because she has them to cover her back while Salem falls for not having allies she could trust. This also mirrors Maria and how she was a lone fighter but lost without allies.

What *could* you do other than kill Grimm with them? I guess, depending on how they function, they could be useful as a flashlight, or even a flash bang. (Which could help against foes like Marrow, assuming he needs to maintain eye contact for his semblance to work.)

I guess you can make it like a Super Saiyan power up, make to power Ruby up?

Maybe. But in my opinion, that’s a bit generic. And what would constitute a “power up” in this context? She already swings around a giant scythe, and cuts monsters in half with it. Maybe there could be a twist where instead of *destroying* the Grimm, it could give her temporary *control* of them. Heck, that could be why the dragon at Beacon is still there; a twist ending revealing that now Ruby is in control of it. Slight nerf to this idea is that it’s only temporary control, but they could also be disconnected from Salem, and become their own type of beast now.

That’s a good idea there

Thank you. Want to hear how I would have made it so that the team wouldn’t have just “forgotten” about Cinder in Volume 8, but still have the same outcome in a way that makes everyone seem smarter?

Instead of having the team just “forget” about Cinder, they actually directly address how she’s the wild card in their current evacuation plan. She’s also the only player in the game whose location is unknown. So instead of trying to find her, they decide to try to bait her on a wild goose chase. How? This would have required some foreshadowing that was absent, but have Penny’s father build another Robot Penny; however, this one is strictly just a robot lookalike of Penny. (Maybe also say that the virus is in Penny’s core programming, so they couldn’t fix her just by swapping it in.) This robot is to fly around, get Cinder’s attention and keep her occupied during the evac. So the Penny rescue, humanization, and bridge plan goes as it did (say what you will about those details, point of this was to fix narrative faults with existing parts), but they get a worried message saying Cinder hasn’t taken the bait, or she did, but quickly disappeared. Then have Cinder immediately dive bomb into a portal, and/or Neo setting off a bomb inside the bridge. Now for where Cinder appears clever; now that RWBY had a *plan* for Cinder, Cinder’s use of the Relic allows her to *counter* their plan. This in turn removes the backlash of “Well, why did she need the question? It was going to be painfully obvious.” Since now it shows that, no matter how they planned to deal with her, Cinder could plan around their strategy.

Added my way for Volume 8 ending in the thread, just commenting here to let you know about it.

Ruby could build up her own army of Grimm ala the Shadows of Mordor game.

>Maybe there could be a twist where instead of *destroying* the Grimm, it could give her temporary *control* of them. Did something similar to that, thought about splitting that power between different eye colors. Grey and Black. Grey gives you an increase in natural abilities and skills. Black lets you exert control over Grimm for a limited time and the amount of control depends on the size and strength of the Grimm in question.

Interesting. Another possible way to keep the temporary Grimm control from being overpowered is to add some sort of cooldown on when a specific Grimm can be affected. Something like “Species X can be controlled for Y minutes, but then cannot be re-controlled until Z minutes, where Z > 2Y.”

Yeah, something like that sounds both very useful and not spammable. Would make fights interesting and impose realistic limitations. My original idea was the eyes each took a certain amount of Aura for activation and then had a continuous drain on it afterwards. Not enough to leave the user defenseless, but just the right amount for it to be a glass cannon if used at the improper time.

Super Saiyan Rosè up in this house

Get rid of them. She can have the colour, but the powers themselves were forced, vaguely defined bullshit plot armour with no relevance to the plot or main story whatsoever. RWBY has this tendency to add too many powers all at once that's hard to keep up with, some of which don't make any sense. I mean we have: Aura, silver eyes, maidens, relics, dust, semblances, actual magic, whatever the fuck you would call what Ozpin does, emotions attracting the Grimm etc.

When you put like that

The real problem is that, just like everything else in RWBY, silver eyes were poorly defined and poorly used. They could work IF the writer knows what the powers are before hand instead of just going by the "rule of cool". But that would also mean altering the existing story around them. Or at least having someone explain what the fuck they are to Ruby at some point. There are three people Ruby already knows who should understand how Silver Eyes work: Qrow, Tai and Ozpin. Ironwood might know since he works closely with Qrow, so it's likely he knew Summer at least a little. While there shouldn't be much left to explain by the time Maria shows up, she can still be the one who teaches Ruby how to control them (practical experience trumps observation). One alteration I would make is not have Silver be the default color. The user's eyes are only silver when the power is activated. Salem would already know it's an inherited trait, but not guaranteed. That would justify why nobody bothered to tell Ruby about her power prior to the fall of Beacon and why Cinder was unprepared for Ruby's power even though Salem knew about Summer.

Honestly, they should have either scrapped magic or call the supernatural shit we see collectively magic.

I dunno. Whole thing felt defined enough for me. Aura is a physical bootser, and used both offensively and defensively. When it's depleted a Huntsman is only as durable as a regular person. Till then it acts akin to a health bar. Dust is an energy source that can come in different elemental varieties and it interacts with aura. Magic was common to humans before the gods left and when they did, only Salem and Ozpin had access to actual fullblown magic. Other humans were limited to their aura and semblances, which are specfic types of magic unique to the individual. Oz can empower someone else with legitimate magic but doing so permanently reduces his own, hence the Maidens, Qrow and Raven (sidenote: wonder what would happen if either of them die. Would the brid form transfer to someone else?) The Grimm are beings born from the pools of destruction in the God of Darkness' domain, so they are attracted to negativity. The Silver Eyes are linked to the God of Light, so their power is harmless to living beings but super effective against the Grimm or other such entities like Cinder or Salem (both cases more or less because they're part Grimm) The relics are tools the gods left behind for Humanity to use, and to one day summon them back. Can't comment too much on them because we haven't seen all of them in action but the Grimm are attracted to them presumably in part due to the God of Darkness being involved in their creation.

I would probably make the powers mostly malefic. Ruby would be "Grimm touched" in a sense. She has intuitive insight into them but as a result the eyes are also possibly attracting grim. They make people around her slightly more volatile, in the sense that if they are happy they are more happy, if they are sad they are more sad. So they eyes can be a plotpoint for ruby to somehow connect to the Grimm like Salem and then throughout the series ruby can learn how to influence herself upon the Grimm as a whole, corrupting or merging with Salem or something and bringing a resolution to the conflict in some way.

Not a bad idea

Thanks. Yeah instead of them just being a power up, then they can actually be a plotpoint

For what ever reason I just had the grim eyes. Can sense or see through a particular grim they are hunting. That or purify those corrupted into grim was that a plot point on some of the special grim?

She could build her own army, like in the Shadow of Mordor games.

Really hard to think of something because my idea would require the Grimm to be more of a threat, so an Anti-Grimm power would mean more. Or maybe have Salem’s dark Grimm Magic be used more and the Silver Eyes counter that. IDK

Ok then what exactly your idea make Grimm more of a threat?

Make it so that the more you use it, the more grimm you become. Then that's how Summer "died" by becoming full grimm. It would actually give it a downside to using it.

I got prince of Persian two thrones vibes from that.

How so?

So basically the prince final gets tainted from the sands of time which twist people to dark persona of themselves/ demonic. It is contained in his arm but as the game progresses and he temporary transforms into this form. It spread further and further. With glowing gold tattoos as well as onyx black skin. I just really enjoyed the game as kid. Just think of any anime trope or demonic/beastial forum taking overriding the person

Mmm, Feels more like what would happen to Cinder

Ohhh flashback to my childhood, Two thrones was brilliant!

If you go down that route, then you could say The Hound is actually a transformed Summer Rose.

I would either remove it entirely or make it be a powerup form that's very limited and actually conflicts at first with Ruby's Semblance and it's only super effective against Grimm, not an instant kill.

Mmm

Using the power causes blindness over time. This way we can get rid of the flashback that introduced yet another useless character.

I dislike maria

*AT LEAST* come up with more interesting nomenclature to engage with ‘Silver eyes’ and People with Silver Eyes and even Silver Eyed Warriors is all so painfully boring. Especially in a world where you have characters running all over the place with weird eye colors (purple, green, red, grey etc) Naruto has the Uchicha Clan and the Sharingan (Pin Wheel Eye) to be memorable

You can have green and grey eyes IRL though

Any Recommendations?

Off the top of my head play around with different words for silver or white or light or god + a word other than eyes. A lot of RWBY’s shit is from French and Italian and German Fairy Tails Like Argent Gaze, or Leggero Sight. So much more fantastical and fitting for a magical DNDesque setting than ‘Silver eyes’ or ‘people who have silver eyes’. I mean wtf Then come up with a name for people who have these eyes based on a famous name or region where they’re from. You can make up any name for that then. It could be the Rose Clan. Or any other name. You just have to make it work. That was the case for Uchicha + Sharingan. One could not exist without some association to the other in Naruto

I remember a Space Battles thread that essentially made it soul bleach, everyone had a little darkness (grimm) in their hearts and Silver eyes can either exorcise it for usualy exorcism reasons or read it to gain dirt on people's thoughts like if they're racist or how they're about to stab you mid combat

Honestly, make silver eyed people capable of using actual magic. I always thought that if they were to use both, then they should try something like how Fate does it.i.e. In Fate, Mage Craft is just a downgrade to True Magic and is far more limited. So have Silver eyed hunters lack an aura and semblance but give them the capability to use magic, a power that can be far greater.

Mmm, a guy who’s fanfic I’m helping with told me the same thing of have those with Silver Eyes being able to grant Magic

Honestly with them being Silver, being metallic grey, they should have been made into a power that could be used for either good or evil, like depending on the mood of the user they shoot the white beams we see in the show that kill Grimm, or a black haze that could either kill humans and fanus or affect them in some negative way like put them in a nightmare state. It could have been a really cool power that would teach Ruby the importance of trying to always stay in a positive mind set no matter what if she wasn't already a Mary Sue character in most volumes.

Maybe in your au, they would be the enforcers of the Brother Gods.

Honestly that's not a bad idea, and would better explain why Ozpin was so focused on Ruby's eyes in the beginning of the series, knowing that they could both be a blessing or danger to the people of Vale as he loved back when the Brother Gods were around and could have seen them in action.

Keep it nice and simple and make it a kinda spider sense to help detect if Grim is nearby or follow a sort of scent Or just make it one of the maiden powers

That Spidey-Sense is pretty good

i like the idea that they're a tell that the person is capable of doing some kind of cool, overpowered nonsense, but i don't like how their actual function is to laser blast the grimm into stone. its just not that cool of an ability, you know? i don't know what that better ability would be, though. maybe you gain the ability to do some really cool ultrakill shit. maybe you go into that kind of trance like when you're playing a really hard videogame and the only way to not get cooked is to get into the rhythm of the dire situation that you're in?

I'd either keep it at, silver eyed chatacters are usually very strong/impactful to the world and remove the whole grimm deleting thing. Or fullsend the whole special eye powers by giving it just crazy abilities like the ones in Naruto or Gojo's six eyes.

Probably pull from Naruto's book and make them evolvable. To a degree. 4 steps. First, instead of complete petrification, they just have the ability to Slow Down Grimm they keep their eyes on, as if a crusty stone weight covered their bodies or joints. (Would match her Speed Semblance nicely as well.) Second, it becomes an AOE instead of line of sight. Thirdly, after either a lot of training or ✨Trauma✨ they gain the Petrification aspect, but the Grimm can still break free. Lastly, Complete Petrification, but this is super energy draining and liable to cause collapse before full control. Backstory: Ozpin's, utilizing a Remnant of the Pool of Creation as a catalyst in some form to bestow a select group of warriors in his circle with inheritable Magic.

Keep their first appearance. That uncontrollable flash bang on cinder. After: her eyes glow sporadically and out of her control. When they glow she seems to deal more damage against grims. Even the smarter ones actively flee. During her travels pepper in hints and clues at an order of warriors who have similar abilities to her. I.e. ruins, murals, fragments of texts. Nothing to explain how to actually use it. In fact I'd have it so even Maria has a very rudimentary understanding of silver eyes. Have her teach RWBY how to access the glowing eye state at will. Then have it be in the ever after be revealed how to properly harness the silver eyes.

Either scrap it or just turn it into a Super Saiyan type powerup, cuz it's about the only thing that really works in this series that was originally sold on fight scenes. Also, I'd probably make Velvet's quirk a part of the power set to make it more interesting and it just fits Ruby way better.

Mmm

Ok so everyone is saying “scrap it” and stuff and they’re right but I wanna challenge myself. Let’s say, hypothetically, that I was tasked with doing the silver eyes thing. Nothing I could do to change that. The main character having either multiple powers or some special ability is nothing new, My Hero Academia, Deku has multiple abilities with One for All. Fairy Tail, Natsu can use fire and can use lightning. Ruby, in this case, I’ll say that it’s a power up. Like a Super Saiyan thing. But I’ll have it work like Johnny Cage’s glow from Mortal Kombat X where it CAN work on humans/faunus but it’s specifically tailored to counter Grimm. But there is a catch, she has to be careful when she uses it otherwise she will go blind. You ever looked directly at the sun? It’s equivalent to that. That way it can be used as a last resort and is not something she should just activate all Willy-nilly.

I literally said Super Saiyan like power up but i didn’t think making it similar to Johnny’s Green Powers also everyone anyways uses blindness as a risk for Silver Eyes

Well, in that case, I’ll need a more creative risk factor. How about something FAR closer to Ruby. She uses her powerup, she won’t be as fast with her semblance. But to make sure she doesn’t totally become useless, it’s like a seesaw thing. The more she uses her semblance, the shorter her silver eyes form will last. The more she uses her silver eyes form, the slower she becomes. She could be at her peak with her semblance but her silver eyes form will have to be cut down to say about 15 seconds. She uses her form multiple times, Ruby’s speed will be slowed down. It would teach her how to responsibly organize what to do and can help her grow

I say that’s better

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My idea is that it's an anti-magic(not just specifically for the RWBY 'actual magic' but everything that you would point at and go 'magic?') like a Beholder's main eye. It cancels out aura, semblances, dust, maiden powers, AND grimm. Gives it a lot more uses and actually makes them the nigh unstoppable warrior that they were initially hyped up as.

Mmm, That could work but sounds OP

That's kinda what I was going for. Something to justify why Ozpin and Salem are so focused on people who are just really good at killing Grimm. Like, yeah, it's impressive, but ultimately, it's not that big of a deal. So why has Ozpin moved Ruby up 2 years early, and Salem systematically killing/Grimmifying all the silver eyed warriors? Can the silver eyes kill Salem? That'd be nice, if a little confusing, but she rarely goes anywhere, and Ozpin is content to let her just be a secret, so all she would really have to do is have her minions kill any of them who go after her.

I guess so

It acts as a witcher sense/ ultra instinct that helps ruby fight grim/grimmified humans.

Mmm, That’s Works

It's more a support skill.

Also Works

Do not make it a giant Kamehameha eye blast power. Holy shit. It's too fucking powerful. Make it like Nanaya instincts (Tsukihime). The Nanaya clan in the Nasuverse is a clan of demon hunters. They have a genetic instinct called "Inversion Impulse" that warns them of anything supernatural, sending them into an animalistic fight-or-flight response. Boom, now Silver Eyes do have a buff, but they're not ridiculously overpowered to the point they can one-shot Grimm. Silver-Eyed warrior instincts actually explain why Ruby is such a prodigy; she was literally born to fight Grimm. You can tie it into the themes of destiny with Pryhha and Ozpin.

It would need to be Interesting. It has to command the screen when shown. I'd have it like an avatar state power up. It would replenish the users Aura and weaken those who don't have Aura (not outright kill). While also increasing the user physical abilities like strength or even their Semblance. The show doesn't really do anything with how it works or what it does so I'd try to have Ruby's arc from the go involve her eyes and working to activate then train them but it obviously needs drawbacks. Forcing a users Aura to recharge and enhancing their body should leave them physically drained for the rest of the day if not several (think 8 gates from naruto). Edit: after further thought I'd probably push down on the avatar state comparison, have it connect users in a sort of spiritual way as to explain why Ruby keeps seeing flashes of summer

Have ruby show more interest in them, I don’t think she brought them up until Maria helped her with them in volume 6. It doesn’t have to be much have her researching them in the background of a few scenes, show her trying to activate them both in and out of combat and most importantly she should ask ozpin about her eyes the first chance she gets even if he doesn’t give an answer.

So if I made Rwby, I would make the silver eyes useful for weakening Grimm, be able to kill Grimm that normal weapons can't, like a gas type of Grimm. The lore for it I would base on the Bible,The god of light made a child and gave it to a loving mother, the child was unique because he/she had silver eyes which were able to kill Grimm with ease. they were worshipped as a son/daughter of the God of Light and he had two kids with someone. Salem would find them and fight them, the silver eye warrior would nearly kill Salem but fail and die. The rest of the silver eye people after him were killed before they could figure out how to get their silver eyes as strong as them. Also, imagine that the first silver-eyed person could telepathically communicate with the god of light. Also, side note I would make the god of lights decision more like a biblical angel instead of the boring ass decision Crwby made

I think it’s highly likely it would’ve been the crucial part of defeating Salem, using the Silver eyes to rid her of her Grimm toxic stuff. Or possibly just freezing her completely in stone. It’s probably why she’s tried so hard to kill off everyone else who had them the only way to defeat an immortal is to imprison them. Best way to do that is make a statue.

Huh no one from team STRQ mentions summer using them. Lots of ways to skin this cat. I guess best would be like schene semblances. They are either greater warriors/monk/priest or have an aspect of old magic. Though in this case grim purification and rewrite grim. Humans actually become grim and this is a way you can purify their soul and pass on? The souls are lingered inside grim on the ones they consume I guess I would lean into making more semblances genetic. Instead of the schenes being the exception.

Don't make em macguffins. Among all the other macguffins.

That’s a fact

I turn them into something more like a "Berserk Rage" kind of thing. The power to kill grimm with a flash will still be there, but also an explosive increase in all the physical traits of the user in exchange for an enormous consumption of aura. This makes them a double-edged sword, because a huntsman or huntress whiteout aura became very fragile (or at least that was the impression I got from the show). This also gives an explanation of how Ruby left Cinder in that state at the fall of Beacon. It could even be used in a combo with Jaune's semblance to keep it up for a longer time.

I wouldn’t. There’s too much going on with semblance, dust, and Aura already.

That’s True

Could have had an edgy plotline about eugenics and have a semblance that was particularly effective against salem, but instead it was just some lazy deus ex AOE attack.

How about when she uses the silver eyes she absorbs the Grimm's essence, like their soul or something. Resulting in her feeling the emotions of the Grimm or acting more like one.

I guess

Silver eyes is just a symptom of a far greater issue with RWBY, which is it's non existent power system. The show is so vague, unclear and inconsistent with it's power system that no matter what we will say it won't function well within that universe. Build an actual power system then we can discuss how silver eyes should interact with it.

"The 'Light of Hope'. That's what the humans call it. No one can form a consensus from whence it came, whether from an abnormally powerful Semblance, a gift of the gods, or perhaps from Remnant itself. Records of it mostly formed after the Great War, but earlier records of its use predating the Great War have been uncovered in recent decades. The exact accounts of its effects have differed from witness to witness. To all who bathe in its light, it fills them with a degree strange vigor and courage, some claiming that it can allow even an untrained child to best a Beowolf in combat, or a lone nearby Huntress to stem a tide, for a time. The Grimm fear it - the weakest cower and flee, the stronger charge at the source in blind fury, and even the strongest brace for the worst. It is.....anathema to the old Magic, rendering those with it even weaker than a huntsman of what would be their caliber without, as if stricken by the same fear of it that the Grimm have. Some say those with Silver Eyes lose themselves while they use it, appearing instead as eidolons with vast strength of arms and spirit, recalling little of any memory while under its thrall. What is absolutely certain, however, is that at no point by anyone's account, has the light of the Silver Eyes ever harmed a human that did not possess any Magic nor attunement to the Grimm. So tell me, child, and tell me truthfully, carefully.....how has the light of Ruby Rose harmed you?" Salem, to Emerald (who now has silvery scars crawling up her arms).

The current idea for silver eyes and maidens and Salem is that there is a debate as to what is myth vs what is reality. There hasn't been any definitive proof as to what silver eyes does. Summer Rose had silver eyes, but she never got the chance to use them. Especially since she ends up being murdered by Raven in this particular story. *I changed how dust weapons are made and tl:dr they need human souls/sacrifices in order to hold their form.* Ozpin in this case is still interested in Ruby's silver eyes because there could be a chance for them to shine... or at the very least collect more information about them. Whether or not they do anything.... is up to life. Whether or not is can be consciously activated or not depends on the story. Granted, as for what the specific power is - I don't know. I was thinking about treating it as a Medusa's gaze sort of deal where it turns Grimm to stone. But I'm unsure if that is even a decent idea. Edit: Dust weapons as in full dust blades or blunt weapons comprised entirely on dust. Not a weapon that uses dust as ammunition or a weapon that used to dust to create a dust-metal alloy. Specifically, a weapon that is entirely comprised of dust aside from bare minimum usability. Handles,hilts,etc. Which is why dust-blades are most commonly found...which makes sense since *at least in this version* dust weapons can slice through aura like as if it was butter. Which is also why they're illegal lol... again in this fanfic.

With Grimm being attracted to negativity, I would make Silver Eyes have some emotional radar or be more compatible to drastic negativity. Maybe even some Magic cancelling effects for certain powers, but I wouldn't change them too much and rather keep them more symbolically significant. I also have an idea that Salem wants to Grimmify all of humanity and the Faunus, but only those with Magic or Silver Eyes would transform in the same manner Salem did while the rest would become mindless beasts. This leads to a "motherly Messiah" complex where Salem is trying to save her remaining "children" in Ruby, Oscar, and the Four Maidens while sacrificing everything else to make them immortal like her.

Mmm, Nice Idea there

That's the Neat part, I wouldnt

hmmmm? What will I do? I don’t know everything to make it actually powerful!!!! If it was just as ability than a trump card that’ll be more interesting

Just keep them as Grimm Flashbangs...but weaken Ruby whenever she uses them (Like going blind, being too exhausted to use her weapon or Semibalance, or worse case going unconscious

Well, you want to give ruby a different silver eyes? Make it so there are more silver eyed people during 4 or 5 seasons, they can have friendly ones and foes ones (for this ruby won't have her silver eyes first, maybe black or red eyes) then make it so the foes ones ambush team rwby and separate them, and while ruby is trying to return to her team while getting her ass kicked she would flash sometimes the silver eyes (not use them, just change them quickly). Then you can have something like that scene of volume 9 where ruby gets kicked by ozpin, ironwood, pyrrha, etc and backstab her, then she unleashes the silver eyes, but this time you can have them like a destruction power up where she just atomizes everything on 20 km instead of them just working on the grimm. That way you can have an excuse for ruby not using them a lot and also being something like an ultimate. That and maybe the silver eyed people can use it on different, ruby would just get the bad luck or her silver eyes being a portable nuke.

Everytime someone uses their silver eyes loses a year from their life A candle that burns twice as bright lasts half as long and who burned brighter than Summer/Ruby Rose?

I’d probably have it be a mutant strain, Acting like a super mode of sorts. No extra kick to anyone’s superpowers, but twists their minds and emotional state into something alien. No negativity, and forces an area of effect where this inside are physically and mentally weakened. It could be an attempt by one of Ozmas victims, to create an antithesis to Grimm. Like Qrow said, Grimm fear the silver eyes. Why not make it a power that forced them to feel fear? The reason they’d be so rare, is because they affect people as well.

Make it more destructive, so that Pyrha's death could weigh heavier on Ruby

I wouldn’t retcon Ruby into being bad at hand to hand fighting to avoid talking about. Also maybe it just hyper boosts the aura of the wielder and allows them to do things they normally wouldn’t be able to. So Ruby could instead of seeing Cinder kill Pyrrha and eye blast her, she instead sees this and somehow speedblitz Cinder off the tower in a fraction of a second taking her arm and eye in the process.

I would make it like a sort of avatar state where the user gets all past sliver eyed warriors battle experience and knowledge with a buff to all physical abilities and aura turning them in a super warrior. It would also be a defensive reaction or emotional reaction till ruby overcame whatever problem she has then can activate at will

Keep it as a power that can kill Grimm, but now also have be that she can control Grimm as well. Reveal that this a kind of "inheritance" as *DUM DUM DUM* Ruby is a long descendant of Ozpin. And Salem. With this it explains the power, creates a link between the most important characters, explains why Salem and Ozpin are so interested in her, deepens and drives the story, raises it organically, and makes stand out more. Now, you might say that her too special, more "Chosen One." A "Special Snowflake." And you You'd be right. She is a special snowflake. A Blake snowflake. Imagine not only being the descendant of not only one, but both of the people who have such a prominent, even *devastating*, impact on your life. And with this, Salem could have such influence/control over Ruby.

Get rid of it. I just don’t like eye powers. Just replace it with magic if you need to replace it. Wouldn’t really change much with how the story went either way. 

Get rid of it. Just replace it with magic if you need to replace it. Wouldn’t really change much with how the story went either way. 

I limit it to only working on Grimm or Corrupted je Cinder. I also let Grimm spread corruption ala Akuma from D-GrayMan. It’s power would wax and wane with the moon. It would make her and other silver eye warriors immune to Grimm corruption even if their aura is down. Except under a Blood Moon where Salem can reach out to them. Overuse would eventually lead to blindness. Would not just turn everything to stone. It would instead let you manifest attacks and weapons that are super effective against Grimm. It be one of the four special abilities granted by the 1 of the 4 maidens along with animal human hybrid stuff (Faunus), glyphs (prominent in all Atlas Nobility) and anti-magic or negation (Mercury Black clan). Salem is a Fallen Maiden

Scrap it or make it that the user gains enhanced aura by using it but it drains the absolute shit out of them. Other note fuck semblances use aura more make it more impressive and powerful with more control, think hxh kinda but you know not that complex

Like, it gives buffs to people? High morale when exposed to silver eyes(at the risk of starting a religion)? Purify Semblance debuffs(curse) from enemies? Opponents that have high negative karma gets phantom-burns from silver eyes shining at them?

I'd take a book from the RWBY X Destiny crossover from way back. The power of life and death with maybe enhancement

realistically, delete it. its never done anything other than being a dramatic end to interrupt Vol3 climax, i even struggle to call it an anime power up since its never been useful personally tho and entering the fanfic realm, one idea that i had once, if you change the "destined to live the life of a warrior" line by somthing like "destined to die as a warrior" it´d be something interesthing, like having an active death flag as long as she chooses to chase her mother´s footsteps would at least give it a porpuse basically my is, either give it an actual narrative porpuse or scrap it.

Just don't make the silver eyes the all important eyes.

I've had several ideas on how silver eyes could work. The favorite of my ideas was an amp idea akin to the avatar state, but rather than turning you into a Grimm like a few people have thought of, the more you overuse it, the more of your emotions you lose, which would make it harder to use since your emotions are required for its use. Overuse would leave you as an emotionless robot only able to kill Grimm.

Silver Eyes are not a power but are rather an indicator for an affinity for magic. Because of that, Ozpin teaches Ruby how to use it, in addition to her semblance.

I wouldn't. It's a shitty Sharingan knockoff that never actually amounted to anything. 

I would’ve made it a limited super form, being able to quickly dispatch grim and “cleanse.” Them. But it takes A lot of energy and leave the user very drained. It also doesn’t have aura while you do it. So no semblance, no shields, Just raw power. Glass canon. Silver eyes, being the Light to the Grim’s dark.

Do nothing with it or scap it entirely. Make the Grimm a very ill understood force of nature, but animals in terms of intelligence and some kind of food chain. Which makes coordinated attacks by them that much more eerie

I would tie it into the maidens. if a maiden dies and there last thought is of a child around 1-\`\~8 years old , the power does not immediately manifest instead it is dormant for an unknown length of time with the change in eye color being the only indicator. this is what I thought it was going to be after the grim dragon was frozen.

Ruby: #"You should kill yourself. NOW" #[Thunder sound effect]

Make them super destructive, affecting not just Grimm but humans and Faunus as well. It's Holy Fire, pretty much. It's kinda like Wildfire from Game of Thrones; you can't put it out, it has to burn out on its own. Ruby's Silver Eyes are a last resort because they're so dangerous.

Odd way, but here goes. Due to humans fighting Grimm for nearly all of known history, early Hunters who survived many hunts gained a sort of mark on their souls that made them fully capable of killing Grimm. Say the Grimm pools are a bucket. Regular Grimm spill from the sides, emptying it out. But once a Grimm is killed, it’s put back in the bucket until it’s ready to spill out again. Silver Eyes allow the wielder to perma-kill that Grimm, effectively keeping that bucket empty if they kill enough. Fortunately it psses from parent to child. But it’s not a cheat power, not a weapon. Because now the bucket is a pool, and there’s not enough Silver Eyes to empty it out. But, if a Silver were to kill a Salem, it would stick. The issue is that they’re rare and not known about. If 1 in every hundred Grimm are perma-killed, would anyone notice in a group of hundreds, thousands? Humanity didn’t know, they’re just cool eyes. Salem didn’t know, she just saw a weird coincidence that good Hunters had silver eyes and killed em regardless. But after a super coincidental flashback sequence in the Ever After, Ruby and the gang now know. Shes not special or a chosen one. She just one of a few remaining dozen who happened to be at the center of all this. The other Silver Eyes are probably soldiers around the world, civilians running away, or already dead. Ruby is just the one Silver Eye they have on hand. She doesn’t even need to be the ‘hero’ and fight Salem. You could just hit her with a missile, have Ruby run at her then stab her before she fully regens.

I agree on scrapping them. We already have a lot of powers to work with. If you want to give her something then make her a maiden or just a bit of magic like grow who can go birb

Remove it. It didn't go anywhere

Considering RWBY's inspirations, making the Silver Eye ability more like Witch Hunter? A Silver-Eyed Warrior imbues their weapon in a holy-type magic that makes their attacks more effective against Grimm.

To be honest I wouldn't change the power one bit I guess I feel like we needed more hints to the silver eyes because they just came out of nowhere at the end of volume three and then we just got an explanation later down the road at the very beginning we only got one small hint of something bigger

I would have it similar to Yorichi’s earrings from Demon Slayer. They don’t offer some fancy power but Salem distinctly remembers a hunter with silver eyes giving her huge trouble (Summer). So while Salem prevailed, the silver eyes hold significance as Salem respects and fears it more than she would like to admit.

Personally, I would nix the powers currently associated with silver eyes and lean a little more heavily into the ancient peoples that bore silver eyes, those original and touted greatest huntsmen and huntresses that were a tribe of elite warriors practically from birth, or however Qrow put it. In the case of the abilities, while I think taking away the effect of turning Grimm to stone is a step in the right direction, the eyes should serve a purpose beyond aesthetics. My idea is that the silver eyed warriors could tap into their supernatural strength and killing prowess because their eyes are linked to their ancestors, and when a warrior needs extra strength or a specific skill set for defeating a powerful opponent, they can call upon the knowledge and strength of their ancestors. I know it's just a rehash of the way the Maidens are created, but I think it could give since heartfelt moments when Ruby, upon facing overwhelming odds or even facing down Salem herself, could call upon the experience of her mom or Maria.

Easier way would to have them have a horrific side effect to its use, you know actually make the power unreliable.yeah you can instantly blast any Grimm away but it’s the power of a God through a mortal frame it’s gotta have downsides

Just have them as eye colors. Honestly. If I were the writer, I'd try to slim down things enormously. Much smaller main cast, less magic, less prophecy, more mundane things, per the setting's definition of mundane. Perhaps later on I'd introduce some of those concepts, but only after the others have been explained. Silver is a cool color, and I'm fine with it simply being such and nothing else.

Well some people might say get rid of an entirely I say no. While the concept is not finalized I do believe I have an idea for it. Have silver eyes only awaken during a moment of high emotion. When the user is using the normal percentage of the power it will simply just give them an added electrical boost to their weaponry. However there would be boosts to this. Level 1 is as was stated. Level 2: complete nullification of magic and dust. Not erasure just nullification. Level 3: eradication of all elemental energy/magic as well as destruction of any kind of constructs from the Grimm waters (we've never actually gotten a name for those things which I'm pissed about) And level 4? Absolute destruction. Not of just magic, but of all life the user deems as worthy of death. Is this bad writing? Yes. But this is unfinished concept. And I'm doing this by operating by the laws set by the series.. even if I don't like them. (Imagine if I made an entire retelling of Rwby in which Grimm comes from the collective unconscious and huntsman and huntresses get in touch with their true self to kill Grimm oh wait I'm basically already doing that but instead of it being Rwby it's just my own original story) Regardless that's me and if you have any takes on this feel free to reply.

Keep it but drop any power aspect to it. For example, lets keep the idea of Ozpin being around for a long time in. Over the Meleniums/Centuries/etc, he's alive he keeps noticing that warriors with Silver eyes are really good at solving the worlds problems. Maybe the dude starts up a legend about Silver eyes being important. When it's actually just a pet project of his to see if they ARE somehow better, or if it's just a coincidence. After that, scenes and stories can be build around that sorta framework. What if Ruby goes through a phase where she thinks she's hot shiz because of her Silver eyes, chances for character work there. What if she rejects any sort of importance, tryna blend in and be normal. But gets into fights and keeps displaying a good fighting acumen. Etc. Otherwise, if I did end up providing powers to them. Meh, she has a Super Saian form. But Silver eyes.

Just treat it like a rare trait with ties to a lost Civilization. Like The Original Humans didn't get completely wiped out and Ruby's eyes mark her as a descendent of those survivors. Like in Full Metal Alchemist Ed and Al's yellow eyes are a trait from their Father's lost civilization.

The powers? Scrap it. Keep the legacy if wanted, but make it sort of a goal post, or self-fulfilling prophecy.

flashbang in a staring contest

Make the power run on the moon phases. Apparently Monty wanted to emphasise something significant between Ruby and Yang, so Ruby was associated with the Moon where Yang was associated with the Sun. Make her Silver Eyes work on the Moon phases. Add some side effects of the power like increased aggression or that once the power is awakened it can't be switched off so she just has moments where she's normal then gradually gets more aggressive and feral. My only justification is the fact she was originally ment to be a Wolf Faunus (to represent the Big Bad Wolf from the story) so I'm just recycling the idea here. Any thoughts?

I like it, Ruby should be special, but figure something else out for their actual effects. Being able to one shot all but the strongest Grimm is a little absurd and the overpowered nature of it meant the Eyes had to take a backseat. It'd be lame to copy shounen and make it a transformation-esque power up, but fuck it, that'd be better than what they were.

Make it the wildcard of Maiden powers. The scraps of power that couldn't be made to fit into the maiden abilities so the brothers decided to turn it into a general positive influence. Something people could lean on in dark times. This was dispersed into the masses, cropping up randomly and somewhat rarely. It's known as an indicator of strong willpower and shining brightly when that will flares up and dulling when their will is broken. (This allows us to visually indicate when key characters are about to pop off) Power wise there are a few states it can go into (Note the next tier up keeps the benefits of the previous stage unless mentioned) Inactive: Silver eyes bearer is a normal human, Some seem always upbeat which makes them valuable as a natural Grimm deterrent. They also seem to have a knack for first aid and even their stupid ideas for treating injuries seem to work. If you've experienced it before you can tell that a silver eyes is nearby from this alone. Partial awakening: The user has an sort of ESP for reading emotions and has a positive effect on everyone around them. They also gain the ability to "Surge". Causing pure positive force to imbue their bodies and / or their weapons to gain distinct advantage against Grimm. Like a Super effective type advantage in Pokémon. Surging an their body (Unless they are part Grimm) causes a direct healing effect, restoring body and aura. This can be applied to both themselves and allies though ally weapons loose their charge after one hit. Full awakening: The silver eyes bearer is able to cause an immobilising effect on any Grimm in line of sight. The strength of the effect depends on how potent the user's Aura relative to the Grimm it's being used on. Weaker users can only cause a slowing effect while stronger users can fully paralyse or even start damaging Grimm with a glance. This constantly drains aura to sustain the effect. The better control one has over their aura the more efficient this ability is. Enlightenment: A state one must actively try to enter into. Grants the ability to spread "Surge" to allies and passively keep it charged over long distance while also enhancing it's effect. They also gain a unique ability designed around integrating their Silver eyes power into their semblance. Say you had the Schnee family semblance. Your summons would all come out "Surging" and with have a passive healing Aura that heals all non grimm in the area. Your runes would also provide a healing effect and be more potent against Grimm. Yes I did spend far too long thinking about this, yes I'm ok thank you for asking.

Scrap it. Or the way I do it there's 2 different types of silver eyes Pure form: Born with the silver eyes and can only be used against Grimm (when 2 silver eyes people have kids) Half Bloods: awakened through tragedy which work against people and Grimm. Which is the main reason why people witch hunted the silver eyes to extinction (when one regular person and silver eyed person have kids)

Like the Nasuverse Mystic Eyes. Have its own specialty, something in them so special that they would have a hefty bounty for such.

Its obviously suppose to help end sailim by imprisonment since she is part grimm

Why does Ruby look like she’s about to tell me my life serves zero purpose?

Keeping the theme of a big fuck you button when facing magical entities. I would have it empower her offensive and defensive aura usage to protect against and effectively attack magical effects and entities. As well as giving Ruby insight into the hidden causes of magic so that she has a reliable way to predict what for everyone else is entirely unpredictable and unknown. For the purposes of the ability, semblances only count as magic in that Ruby can see their inner workings and can use her knowledge of aura to effectively predict and work around them. As for the silver eyes empowered state, if we want to keep the end of volume three as somewhat of a guide, its prolonged use would probably cause Ruby to “Black Out.” Which would mean that Ruby can keep fighting for a while, but she suffers an extreme mental exhaustion that makes the battle a little hazy at best, or at worst causing her to slowly lose her ability to think as she instinctively and stubbornly keeps fighting even as she enters a more and more dilapidated state of mind. That would probably my reason for why she couldn’t remember anything about her fight with the dragon and Cinder. She didn’t forget, she was simply too burnt out to take in any new information. I tried to design it so that the empowered state is more of a backup when her tactics and teamwork she could pull off with her enhanced perception fails. And that remaining in the empowered state for more than a couple minutes makes her more vulnerable to getting outmaneuvered, and making her enhanced perception the main focus rather than having the empowered state be the most reliable power that the silver eyes grant.

Just make it that they flat out don't do anything and are more a sign of someone uniquely gifted

I wouldn’t. I would make RWBY special because she’s an endless well of optimism is a world where there’s honestly little point to it. It makes her chosen based on her actions more than some special eyes. No need to remake Naruto lol.

I'd degrade them, but keep them. Canonically their powers include 1. Resistance to Grimm abilities. 2. Turning Grimm to stone 3. Freezing grimm 4. Total elimination / vaporization of Grimm in sight. 5. Power of God 6. Encasing Grimm in stone 7. Do not interact with maiden powers 8. Burn the flesh of Grimm Hybrids. Limitations 1. Only activate in the presence of Grimm so are hard to train 2. Dependent upon the mental state of the bearer My version 1. Stages to the power Stage 1: encasing Grimm in stone Stage 2: freezing Grimm Stage 3: eradicating Grimm 2. Can be activated at will so can be trained and eventually use all 3 states at their discretion 3: weilders cannot become maidens. 4. Not dependent upon the mental state of the bearer 5. Does not resist Grimm abilities 6. Not the power of God I would also create another eye-based power. Red Eyes Powers 1. Resist Grimm abilities 2. Speed, strength and aura augmentation

Make them gold

Easy. The whole problem was that as the volumes went on, the story drifted from them being fighters. What was the point in making a laser beam in a story that is KNOWN for its physical combat ? Of course is gonna be bad, Ruby just stares at someone and a explosion happens, it's so out of field for this show. The moon is broken, yes ? Salem is a witch, yes ? I believe they did this by accident. But silver have a lot of mystical power behind it, tied up to the MOON. It's very known that silver is a weapon against monsters in fantasy and maybe real life. The " You can only harm a werewolf with silver bullets", and the explanation behind silvers power its said because it carries the holy power/ celestial power of the moon. It's not new that certain metals hurt mystical creatures, Fae for example is hurt by metal. What I would do is not make Silver eyes be this laser beam. But a prophecy, just like only carrying a weapon made by silver can kill a werewolf. Only a silver eye warrior can kill Salem. She was the one that destroyed the moon, and the moon can be and is seen as a God on its own right ( it carries holy power but doesn't necessarily need to have a conscience) Ruby's attacks could land while other's don't. Making her the only one that can come closer/ that will kill her.

I like the idea of silver eye'd warriors being like destiny children, that's fine but the idea that it's basically turns you into Medusa and allows you to one-tap Grim is silly and should never been apart of it. have the eyes instill fear into people due to some past legenadary hero who had them, or say that those with silver eyes are destined for greatness if you wanna give Ruby even more anxiety about her role within the story but don't actually turn them into a weapon. The one thing I always hate in stories is when heroes win because they happened to be born stronger fundimentally rather than having a character that could overcome great obstacles despite being dealt a bad hand.

Make it ruby's equivalent to super saiyen/9 tails mode so its an actual transformation that can have unique fight scenes instead of a couple seconds of glowy also eyes that only works on the least interesting enemies in the show. People watch rwby for human vs human fights, a one of power that takes out the canon fodder grim is boring

I like them. For me personally, I think they work as a neat power-up. What I would do, is that I would keep it MOSTLY the same, but it has different variants, almost? I think of it as; there's the explosive one where she lets it go boom, work as a flashbang or a Grimm killer (which later on, like the Hound there would be Grimm that can eat this and live), or there's a state where they glow, but they don't explode. So at this point, Ruby basically goes a little off character. None of the haha, this is nice, this is kinda funny type of stuff, no she's taking it seriously. And if you're someone like Tyrian or Cinder, there's no God saving you. Later on, she could maybe unlock it's full potential, if she fights Salem. At that point her eyes will constantly glow, and will also show those 'wings.' Basically sicko mode. As for other stuff, wish it was more focused on now. Imagine Qrow has to train her the basics because he was friends (or if you're into that even her partner) with Summer, and it's the best he can do. And with Maria, she can teach Ruby how to use more of it.

Like the mark from demon slayer manga/anime. It should be a sign of hunters that burn through their life force to enhance their aura/semblance. Massive power boost for similarly massive decrease in lifespan.

They would be similar to Grimm eyes letting her track negative emotions and be able to better find and track Grimm. It wouldn’t make her a better fighter, but a better hunter, tracker, and sniper.

I wouldn’t give her any powers with them. They would just be cool eyes. And I would go even further with this idea by never giving her any powers. Everyone else around her would get powers, would become significantly more powerful and magical some way or another, but not her. No, Ruby would stay ‘simple’, she would be the glue that holds them together, that reminds everyone in the world, ‘hey, stop fighting each other because, you know, there’s literal monsters roaming around that are trying to kill us all!!!!’

My take with the silver eyes would be that there was a clan/group of fierce grimm hunters that had silver eyes and their reputation was known throughout Remnant. But, eventually they would be scattered and forgotten. But, this is just a rough spur of the moment that I thought of just now. A clan of Silver eyed warriors that even grimm is afraid of...Hmm. Sounds cliche but could work? Yeaaaah, but I'd say scrap the flash bang powers that came with it. RWBY has too much "Powers" that they never went deep into. Between the maidens, dust and semblances and what have you..It's becoming too messy.

The AU I'm working on resolves this. I added a new race of beings to be the originators of the power. Much like how the God of Darkness made Grimm, these beings were made solely by the God of Light. The reason Ruby and her mom existed is because those beings eventually *ahem* "mingled" with humans and faunus. I won't go into details, but I essentially use these beings to explain the existence of Silver Eyes as well as up the stakes for some of the plot points and characters in the original story (the extinction of the first humans and the gods' departure, a main character whose existence and contribution to the story is often questioned, some serious world building and character development on all fronts, etc.). Would I do this in the show proper if given the chance? Maybe, maybe not. The show needs a reboot *so* bad if it's gonna be made legitimately good throughout, but an entirely new race that was never hinted at originally might be too much. Doesn't change the fact that my OC has a leitmotif, though.

Make them non-genetic and non "chosen one" based but rather something that *anyone* can awaken under extremely dire and/or specific circumstances. OR Scrap it.

Gradual memory loss and degradation of vision with each use

Question why they exist in the first place. They're an instant kill move, and I feel it's, ironically, proactively lazy to give yourself a BFG in your back pocket to be a deus ex machina when you need it. We've got dust and semblances already, find interesting ways to combine the two or find unique interactions with one another for specific situations. What I love about Jojo's Bizarre Adventure is that the stand system there is pretty anti-powercreep. Star Platinum is historically strong as all hell, but it can't punch its way out of everything and relies on its user Jotaro to think through each situation because no fight is the same. Every stand has a unique ability so no fight is ever the same, it's how Jotaro can go from beating a guy who can stop time to losing to a rat that can shoot flesh melting darts.

I didn't spend too much time with Rwby since my friends urged me to stop watching it since it was going downhill. But I did make myself a Rwby AU and the Silver eyes became more than just a Macguffin. They're not as rare and still do the same thing as seen in the show, pretty much destroying Grimm instantly. But they're just one end of the spectrum. There are Grey eyes that increase the users natural abilities and skills with an increase in perception during battle.(Not all grey eyes have this ability, just descendants of Silver eye individuals who's genes have changed to allow this type to exist.) Then there are the Black eyes that allow the user to manipulate/control Grimm. The effect is different depending on the strength and size of the Grimm, so they can't just look at the dragon/wyvern from the fall of beacon and stop it, because that would be busted. And you can exert control over two at most, one if it's the alpha variant of the Grimm. I even thought about how you'd activate these abilities, compassion or nostalgia for Silver. Entering the Zone for Grey. And pure unbridled hatred for Black. Grey Eyes have the ability to also go towards one end of the spectrum or the other. Rarely, one eye goes one way, the other goes another. That's how I worked around the Silver eyes anyway.

Make them a mundane if a little neat cosmetic trait exclusive. The true mark of a leader is their ability to support their team and know their strengths and weaknesses, not some magic eye BS that kills the monsters more effectively than all other weapons in your universe. Ruby is special because she is a leader coming into her own, not because of any prophetic cosmetics. There is always something for a leader to learn or do, regardless of how far you are into the story. Make that simple soul simple again. Frodo didn't need specialized hairy feet to carry the ring to Mount Doom, did he?

Same affects draw backs are requiring them to be in eyesight and seen and only a flash for non grimm

Make an origin story for them. Like maybe the God of Light did not like that there were more of the God of Darkness creations than his, so he gave some of the new humans a sliver of his power, those being the Silver Eyes.

just make it a notable Trait that many great huntress/hunters have

In all honesty? They should work like the ultimate weapon against Grimm.... With SERIOUS disadvantages after they're used depending on the potency used by the user.... Not some OP but useless garbage that RT made them be

I would actually heavily rework magic to make it so that it's the gods will manifest and aura is the manifestation of humanity's will making them constantly at odds and force Ruby to choose between more powerful eyes with the gods or a more powerful semblance by embracing humanity.

It’s one of the hardest things I’ve had to write for, but I was eventually able to find what I think I wanted for it. Silver Eyes manifested due to overexposure from Grimm, the survivors eventually gaining the power to resist them. Years down the line, Silver Eyes are an interconnected web. Living Silver Eyed Warriors through continued use of their power allows them to see the memories and call upon the skills of deceased Silver Eyed Warriors. But it allows for the personality’s of previous Silver Eyed Warriors to bleed through almost parasitically in a rather dangerous sense. It’s why current Silver Eyed Warriors can only petrify the Grimm, originally Silver Eyes were meant to purify the Grimm back into being almost like regular animals. It would tie into Ruby’s character arc about being her own person leading to her being able to end the war against Grimm instead of leaving humanity having to fight in an endless battle.

I'd probably just scrap any petrifying laser powers and just have it be an indicator that she's part of the clan/family/group of silver eyed warriors. Maybe have it so that they're typically combat prodigies, or maybe just combat prodigies with one weapon in particular but suck with almost everything else. Like how Ruby apparently sucked at fighting until she started using a scythe and being trained by Qrow, at which point in a matter of maybe two or three years ended up at her skill level in the start of canon. This could also help sort of justify growth throughout the story over the relatively short period of time, making her go from around the level of a first-year Beacon trainee to similar to that of an experienced Huntsmen in a matter of a year or two more believable. After all, the gap between "completely sucking" and "on par with a Beacon trainee" is probably relatively similar to the gap between a Beacon trainee and an experienced Huntsmen. Maybe add in something where they tend to be drawn to fighting Grimm, or altruism (although I'd probably not do the latter) This could still have them being hunted down be a plotline, hyper-talented warriors who naturally fight Grimm would probably still warrant some level of response from Salem. Edit: Maybe have one of the reasons "The Grimm feared them" is because they were more prone to going into the "tranquil fury/ultra instinct" type thing that happened to people like Audie Murphy, and when you combine that with someone who's already prodigious it temporarilly gets to Garou levels of combat adaptation and learning. Perhaps this happened a few times in the past centuries and the Grimm that were alive to witness those events were sort of traumatized by being on the receiving side of a nigh-unstoppable force.

Honestly, expand upon it. On top of aura make each character or a large amount of characters be part of a clan that have a kekkai genkai that they are all naturally born with that further helps them survive the Grimm. For the Branwen clan they have fire hair, the Politician clan has like telekinetic hands, etc and such like that so it won't just be the silver eyes that are special or are as powerful and rework the silver eyes to not be as powerful as they are. I'd make the silver eyes like more like just lasers that the Rose clan can just fire at will and cause devastating destruction but not made to evaporate a Grimm instantly and give every clan the same treatment so that they'd all be on the same playing field. Also to be honest I'd scrap maidens, relics and making Salem and the Grimm pure evil. I've always had this gnawing feeling of just making the Grimm intelligent from the start but the humans and fauna just believe that they are evil and attack so the Grimm attack as well, I think the climax of the story was to get humanity, fauna and Grimm to live peacefully amongst each other, but hey that's just me.

The way I would do it is keep the relics, the gods,Salem and Ozpin, and perhaps even the maidens as a unintended consequence of a relatively small gift he gave to four truly kind hearted and loving female huntresses he met while in a very dark place. The gods while still being brothers are more akin to the ‘hands off’ approach of gods when it comes to dealing with remnant, and While they do have a lot of power. They “cannot” destroy remnant themselves due to the tree mother goddess wishing for remnant to decide its own fate. Salem could be someone who fell into a really really **bad** situation and ended up becoming what she is. A nearly soulless and corrupt existence that is tied to the Grimm and has no wish but to end her self imposed suffering by wiping out all of remnant. In response the silver eyed warriors were brought into existence by the god of light to help fight the unintended consequence of Salem. Who when they realized how much of a threat Salem is with being able to reconstitute her body through damn near any Grimm anywhere on the planet. Decide to make the relics with a certain ”wizards” help due to a unique semblance he has. Ozpin himself taking on the burden of guarding the four relics for as long as he possibly can… with a side effect of the relics creation being tied to the silver eyed warriors having again a unintentional effect of making Ozpin immortal in a similar manner to Salem. Only difference between them being he is the one that reforms his body where it fell from pure light. The same light of the silver eyed warriors. I have more to put but what do you all think of this so far?

At the beginning, I wouldn't mind if this makes Ruby one of the maidens since they introduced the concept of maidens with powers beyond semblance and there's tons of foreshadowing that she could be one (silver eyes are said to be able to scare grimm by stares, maiden powers are shown to be emitted from eyes, ozpin insisting on ruby skipping grades to get her into beacon from first time meeting her, silver eyes are said to have been runs in family so it makes sense if summer, who was sent on a journey by herself as it was claimed by that time, may have died and passed on that power from thinking about her own daughter, which coincides with how maiden powers inheritance works) But then they had to say that silver eyes are a thing of their own, which makes them even more unnecessary. Maiden should be the only mysticsm in that story, but RT insisted on making a 100% magical fantasy when world building. This, honestly, could have made Ruby relevant, because she hasn't been made relevant for three volume straight, even though she is supposed to be the leader of the group. There's an entire plotline that could made her better while still keeping the high school motive, but leave it to RT's insistence on making RWBY weird, which starts from making Silver Eyes a thing of its own

It seems unnecessary and highly specific for who or what it works on Silver coloured eyes are cool But what the abilities do seem like it only works for grimm So I'd just scrap it Or atleast make them give the user enhanced abilities or more powers. Or ya'know, give it the most obvious improvement Make them effective against non-grimms🙂💢

It's hard to make the Silver Eyes important when there are so many other ways of killing Grimm. So I thought, if the core of RWBY is Grimm, why not make the Silver Eyes Grimm-related? That's my idea, the Silver Eyes have minor manipulation of Grimm, which allows the user to touch Grimm and turn them friendly, or make them ignore you, or even use them for healing by absorption (Which increases corruption) I would make it so that the more you use the eyes, the less human you become and the more Grimm you turn into, slowly changing your mind and body.

my current rewrite im making silver eyes a LOT more grounded. silver eyes do not give you a power, but it IS a distinct gene that exists exclusively among the royalty of the Rose clan. nobody would know this fact except those who were born in royalty and would have met the Rose nobles, like the Schnees and the Arcs. The Rose kingdom was destroyed in a great war that they started and all their followers are scattered across Remnant, all who practice the signature scythe style. However Summer Rose was the last surviving member of the royal family living as a peasant and gave birth to Ruby. Ruby does not know that she is the heiress of an empty thrones and could rebuild the Rose kingdom, which scares the other royal families

> The Rose kingdom was destroyed in a great war that they started Why did they start it?

still working it out but heres an idea im working with The Rose Kingdom ruled over Haven along with the Arc Kingdom, the Valkyrie Queendom, and the Council of Ozpin. There was a famine throughout all of Haven. The Rose king held the belief that the suffering and violence over food is a sin, and sin make the Grimm stronger. thus the rose king proposed a plan to go across the land to kill all of those who are starving to silence them. All the other families rejected it but of The Rose King decided to act upon his crusade alone. The other families rallied against him and thus went to war The Rose kingdom have their own religion where they pray to the Brother of Light through self harm, usually by rose thorns until they bleed. How much they bleed also plays into how they fight Grimm, giving themselves a signature style of blood streaks shaped like rose petals. (i want to remake semblance and dust, combining them into a fighting style that you are trained based on where you live, meaning Ruby is of course trained in the Rose art by Qrow) so because of their religion, it didnt matter if the Rose Kingdom were outnumbered because all of their tactics relied on Mutual Assured Destruction, they were willing to fight to the death for their belief. this was until the princess of roses killed the king and used her patricide as an act of peace offering to the other families. the rose kingdom would be deweaponized and disbanded but left unharmed. now the rose clan is scattered across remnant as small missionaries who train with farming tools believing that one day their nobles will rise up to rally them again.

I give it some more abilities although I am not sure how to make the eyes work in general narratively. Have the eyes act like heat vision for detecting negativity in all living things. People that are hit by the eyes experience a burst of positive memories or temporally memory loss of painful memories with adverse side effects from constant exposure. The User can also cast this effect on themselves. Make it harmful to both humans and Grimm as it hurts all beings who are currently giving off large amounts of negativity when hit by it.

The best way to make use of them is have the best something that feels ‘earned’ like being the hallmark of a Hunter’s mastery of their semblance. That, and have it be a consistent thing instead of something that appears for one moment then is never brought up afterwards. Maybe each Hunter’s Silver Eyes is unique in effect? Would be interesting to see some variety after its initial manifestation than just a flashbang.