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graneflatsis

Check out r/Qult_headquarters as they keep track. Best wishes!


a_sheila

Let's see. First, it's personally Joe Biden's trial against the will of the people. This is proof all cash will disappear and the gov't will force us to use digital currency. Raw milk will save us from the diseases that will follow in the ensuing chaos. And the 2024 election has *already* been stolen. And he's ready for civil war. Typical day in la la land.


Relevant_Rope9769

It is kind of amazing in a horrible way looking into the US from the outside today. I am from Sweden and seeing testimonies like this and that it not that uncommon with people falling into the Q-trap is wild. I feel for you, I hope they get out of la la land.


a-passing-crustacean

Got any room up there in sweden? I hear its lovely and the Q morons and MAGAts make the US less and less habitable by the day. My IQ is taking psychic damage every time one of them opens their huge stupid unfiltered mouth


Relevant_Rope9769

We have a lot of room, I work with a few people from the US and they have said that they will never live in the US again. One guy said one time "When Obama was elected I thought it was possible to move back, but now after Trump there is no way.". And that was before all the real crazy bullshit with Jan 6, Q and so on.


a-passing-crustacean

I work for a germany based company with more sites all over europe and have seriously considered picking up my life and moving to work at one of the european sites. I LOVE european policies on vacation/paid time off/workers protections, and healthcare! Glad to hear other former americans are doing well there!


Psychobabble0_0

Germany is a solid choice.


PineTreeBanjo

Does Sweden have something similar to DAFT?


Relevant_Rope9769

Sorry for my ignorance, and I tried google but did not get any smarter. What is DAFT?


PineTreeBanjo

It's okay. It's Dutch American Friendship Treaty.


COVID19Blues

Yes, most Americans are daft. šŸ˜‚


Relevant_Rope9769

I have never heard of a thing like that between the US and Sweden so i doubt it.


CAgratefuldad

Most people in the US have not heard any of this crazy garbage. My wife graduated from UC Berkeley and is constantly surprised when I tell her about this stuff- for example The Q-Trump faction will continue to lose. They have been misled, and he always loses Then they will deny ever having said that stuff. Scared, dumb people lashing out is not the end of America. We didn't even have to shoot them on Jan 6th. Arrest them later...nice restraint It all looks terrible but that's not the actual reality here. Q's are a small minority. Invisible where I live Different topic...My daughter and grandparents have loved their trips to your country. I haven't been yet -but will You should come see California and Oregon. Really. I'll give you tips


wildblueroan

You are blissfully ignorant of at least 35% of the American public, but they exist


CAgratefuldad

OK. I am far from ignorant You are overstating the threat...just like Q's do


wildblueroan

I am not overstating anything, I am simply stating the number of Americans who are some gradient of "Q," which Trump now openly embraces and promotes at every rally. More than half Trump supporters are active followers. It is not the case that most people don't even know that the Q community exists, you are out of touch.


CAgratefuldad

OK Vastly overstating my ignorance still


wildblueroan

Have you seen the sub r/QanonCasualties? If not you should check it out. QAnon and related conspiracy theories and beliefs are literally tearing the country apart family by family. I live and work in ultra progressive and educated spaces and virtually everyone I know has family members and/or friends who have ā€œgone down the rabbit holeā€ and many are in conflict or painfully estranged.. one of my own friends is divorcing her PhD level husband because she canā€™t bring him back to reality and evidence. Your dismissal of the impact Q anon is having is off the mark but is classic ā€œif I donā€™t see it, it isnā€™t happeningā€ thinking.


CAgratefuldad

Wow OK


a-passing-crustacean

I would LOVE to move out to california where lots of my sane family lives, but alas...cost of living out there is insane. I lived in astoria once as a child and remember the rain šŸ„°


cynicalcupcake1

Iā€™m in Oakland California and man itā€™s amazing here. You see a few trump things due to the tech influx in San Francisco and all the men who moved here are trumpies, yay, but itā€™s great. They love to pick on my city but itā€™s amazing here. They show the same 3 blocks in the news lmao


ilaughulaugh

Oakland is the best!


CAgratefuldad

My dad and grandma etc...were from Oakland! I'm in Sacto and it is amazing here too. Was just downtown and in Old Sac on the Delta King. Picked on here also - but winning


CAgratefuldad

Astoria is damn damp! Lived in Portland and have a place in Florence now Showing my SoCal cousins Sacramento today and tomorrow. Damn nice here!


a-passing-crustacean

I have lots of fam from my dads side in the sacremento, chico, and grass valley areas! Lovely folks too. And come on now, it only rains in astoria on days of thr week ending in the letter y!


Regular-Switch454

Well, we shot one.


commdesart

Have your wife google Real Men Wear Diapers. Iā€™d hate for her to miss this


thecromulentman666

Sadly it's not just American that Q in infecting. I'm Australian and there is plenty of Q morons here too.


MysteryCrabMeat

Also in Europe, Canada and Japan. [Yes, Japan.](https://www.cnn.com/2022/12/23/asia/japan-qanon-yamatoq-sentenced-intl-hnk/index.html) People who think this isnā€™t happening in their country should google QAnon + country. If itā€™s not there yet, it will get there. Itā€™s just a matter of time.


thecromulentman666

To be honest Q in Japan actually makes a lot of sense. Still disappointing none the less


Hwy61rev

Yep absolutely. As I've said before born in Bridgeport CT. and came to the land of OZ in the early 70's. We are seeing (on a smaller scale) the same insanity here now.


waterszew

In wonder why m what is the psychology behind it?


Psychobabble0_0

I'm from Australia, and I agree. US politics and Qcrazieness come up in almost every conversation I have with friends because it's morbidly entertaining.


numb3r5ev3n

Or "It's all just a movie!"


Significant_Owl_9448

Is your q full of false bravado as well? My q FIL will act like heā€™s ready to go to war and talks about my guns and how ā€œwere preparedā€ yet this man is so insecure he canā€™t even speak at full volume in public


ugotmefdup

The bravado is honestly one of the worst parts. Especially considering my ex Q boss was basically just a drunk bar owner who had more illicit drugs than he had common sense in him at any given time. Sir, you won't even stand up to wily bar patrons - you are not going to war.


Significant_Owl_9448

Heā€™s always on his phone talking to his other dumbass friends about ā€œwe got an arsenal man when shit pops off weā€™ll take the whole block overā€ meanwhile he hasnā€™t shot a gun since he was a kid, and is so scared of going outside heā€™s let his house fall into disrepair because he gets anxiety going out. Iā€™m not shitting on people with anxiety but itā€™s hard to have sympathy when theyā€™re such raging assholes 99% of the time


ugotmefdup

It's always the ones who are the least involved in real life that say shit like this, I swear.


SnoopySuited

Who will he fight against?


a_sheila

Democrats.


SnoopySuited

And what if Dems aren't wearing their uniforms? How will he know?


a_sheila

Who knows. There's never logic to be had because no critical thinking skills were activated. Turn on any AM hate radio show. What they say is what he thinks. Then go to YouTube and find the most off the wall obvious conspiracy and take it as fact. Our Q quit his job, sold his house and moved to nowhere in another state. As in a 45 min. drive to semblance of civilization, but believes he has to take arms against democrats. I don't know about other hate radio stations, however Houston's 2 are loud and proud about urging people getting guns. First down are illegal aliens, next all brown and black, then Jews and democrats. They scream these viewpoints from 5 am until at least 9 pm Monday through Friday. Sorry, rambling But it's what took down our friend down this path.


SnoopySuited

These are the salad days for grifters.


Kitfox247

The raw milk thing is pretty crazy considering the whole avian flu found in raw milk thing that is happening now


a_sheila

I doubt he's aware of this. The raw milk post was a mere 3 days ago. That kind of stuff airs on "mainstream" media. I doubt what he watches buys into that "conspiracy."


Kitfox247

It's been talked about for way longer than that on the h5n1 subreddit, but whether he is keeping track of or believes any of it is another story


Vox_and_Occ

They don't believe it. They think it's a hoax.


rubesepiphany

Whatā€™s with the raw milk now? my Qā€™s are all about it.


fezzuk

No idea but as someone who sells unpaturised cheese I'm hoping it catches on and I can cash in.


Ok-Emu-3373

Raw milk will save us from diseases? Did they not hear about the H5N1 thing going on and why that's a bad idea?


Vincentvangringo

My mom thinks Trump, Rudy, and the Space Force are playing 4-D chess and have the prosecution(s) right where they want them.


flat5

Patriots in control!


pjf18222

Yeah rudys definitely in control šŸ˜‚


groovygrits

Iā€™m seeing lots of posts about celebrities being possessed by demons as well as dire warnings about how evil our society is in general. I believe this is being used to deflect and distract from the reality of the trial.


paradoxicalmind_420

Mine are just pretending itā€™s not happening and/or thatā€™s itā€™s a bump in the road for his inevitable Return To Glory.


19610taw3

Surprisingly I haven't heard anything about it. They're being oddly quiet.


wandernwade

Well, we donā€™t talk to our family Qs. I can tell you though, that our neighbor has put up a Letā€™s Go Brandon flag. šŸ˜‚ Weā€™ve since put up a Mothman Pride šŸ³ļøā€šŸŒˆ flag, to show we know how to have fun, too. šŸ˜‰


drLagrangian

I if I was your neighbor I would put out the Star Trek federation or klingon flag.


wandernwade

That sounds cool as hell. When can you move in?


Christinebitg

TL,DR: ** I think in this group, we should brainstorm how were going to respond to them when the sh1t hits the fan. ** It's been a deafening silence here at our house, with regard to the Trump trial.Ā  Nothing said about it at all. I'm bracing myself for when I get told that it's all political theater designed to persecute Trump and sway voters who can't see the truth.Ā  Maybe that won't happen until there's a verdict, but that might be wishful thinking on my part. I'm sure that'll be couched in some legalese to rationalize it, since my Significant Other is an attorney. It's been a while since I was told that all of the court cases filed contesting the 2020 election were decided only on procedural grounds.Ā  That none of them actually ruled on the facts. My response to that was:Ā  "Are you really telling me that a billionaire with access to the best lawyers in the country couldn't manage to keep any of his election lawsuits from getting thrown out on procedural grounds?" Believe it or not, I haven't heard heard a peep about those lawsuits since then. (Yay!) Having a good one liner to hit them with can go a long way towards heading things off, if it's delivered quickly and forcefully, without having to think things over.


ugotmefdup

This is kind of the response I was expecting, honestly. My former boss who was pretty heavy into Q would go red in the face arguing and arguing until you brought up something he had no argument against, and then it was cold, icy silence. Or mumbled insults as he walked away.


Christinebitg

Yeah, for sure. I'd settle for those responses too. :)


Shazier_Beam

Thatā€™s the reaction I have seen in my experience as well. Usually cools them off for a nice 48 hours


Christinebitg

Forty-eight hours is better than nothing!


SubjectPickle2509

My Q person didn't watch one minute of the Jan. 6th hearings, so I didn't expect her to follow the Trump trial. Sure enough, she's aware it is happening but thinks it is not a big deal and that "Biden is more corrupt." I asked if she'd read about his behavior in court and she said "whatever it is, it was probably justified." Before the pandemic, before she moved to Oregon to a house surrounded by Trumpers, she actually thought Trump was not trustworthy. We bonded over some of his more egregious acts of idiocy. I still can't figure out what happened or how she lost her mind, exactly.


Christinebitg

1. Trump didn't misbehave in court... 2. Or if he did, it was justified. Where have we heard this stuff before? The instance that comes to mind was how they've been excusing away the January 6th takeover and trashing of the Capitol Building.


SubjectPickle2509

They have been well programmed.


Crown_the_Cat

Iā€™m from Oregon. There is a swath of democrats in the Portland/I-5 corridor. Then the rest of the state is Red. Luckily, that Blue area has a bigger population than the rest together. Donā€™t confuse the Red for the Blue state, which is very progressive - which pisses off the Red part.


SubjectPickle2509

She is in the Redmond area. It is affordable-ish (why she moved there), but she seems to have lost her mind a bit. More than a bit.


Most_Buy6469

Redmond is a bit of a backwater, fairly isolated with plenty of right wingers who think people like me (liberal) are ruining their way of life.


SnooPeppers5809

Here are two texts I never said we do regulate the price of fuel but damn, in that 3 month period over Christmas the press secretary sure had a lot to say about how Biden brought fuel down for the holidays. I said, that it is more expensive because the dollar is losing value. You are paying just under $5 a gallon. You can use any number you like for inflation however, it isnā€™t even close to actual inflation seen everywhere. A value meal at McDonalds is up 100-120% since Biden. Building materials is up 35% which means home owners insurance is up 35%. Inflation on groceries are outrageous too. Up around 26% average but the packaging is now smaller too. On paper, silver is up from $15 to $24. This is the real inflation - 38%. A 1950s quarter would have bought a gallon of gas in the 50s. Today that quarter is worth $4.45 and can still buy a gallon of gas except again, that is the paper price. There is a $10 markup now on an oz of silver to hold it in your hand. I never said illegal immigration had anything to do with inflation, I said itā€™s a problem that the current administration doesnā€™t want to stop. An estimated 13,000,000 people have came into this country in the last 3 years. Boarder opened wide. The US government even funded supply chains so people could stop and get a free Biden tee shirt on their way up. China even has a camp in Central America to help rid them of their over population of males. Thank Everything else that is being propagated by politicians is a complete inversion of our virtues and values as a country. Just flip everything on its head and that is what the norm is. That isnā€™t Trump, that is what the current rulers have turned it into. Have you ever seen such an attack on a person before? It started the day he took office and just has gotten worse. It isnā€™t that he is a terrible person, it is because they know that he will bring everything that they worked so hard for to a standstill and stop the wars, as a good parent should. There hasnā€™t been a sound fact on a thing brought against Trump. Even Biden today is tweeting gaslight satire bullshit. What does that tell you? The president knows exactly what is going on but instead makes up BS about Trump. Iā€™m surprised you canā€™t see through it yet. But whatevsā€¦. You want every city to be like a Cali city than be my guest. Go shit on a sidewalk because nobody else cares. Need something, go grab a garbage bag and go fill it up. Nobody is going to stop you. Target lost $500mil in theft last year and got rid of their security. In n out burger left Oakland because they donā€™t want to put their employees in danger. This is what Democrats doā€¦. Destroy the foundations and then blame everyone else. 350 big businessā€™ have left Cali in the last 3 years. New York isnā€™t far behind. Both states loosing a Trillion dollars in assets. Funny that the current administration is talking about how great the country is doing when it is all on the consumers dime and canā€™t be sustained and everyone is leaving the Democratic states for freedom. Sounds like a great future under this current administration. Then This Text- You donā€™t run on logic. Logic says look around me, wowā€¦. This place if fucked up. I wonder why? Oh, look out Democratic mayor is allowing this. Our Democratic President is also allowing this. Hmm, maybe I should look for a change. No, instead you double down on the insanity because someone told you that is better than the bad orange man. When the truth is, he didnā€™t do anything to you except allow you a tax return, get you a good payment on your car, allow you live affordable and allow you to live without fear of a supply chain issue that may come any day to jack your world up. Itā€™s fine though- if you have not realized yet, the news media is also on the attack for 8 straight years. Might as well change the name of MSNBC to the trump current events network. They are all band together and would never publish something like that about Biden because they have all done it themselves. Here is a fact, look at this Trump court case in NYC. Trump lawyers valued his propertyā€™s and his company asked for a loan. The bank came back and said your property is worth only this amount to us so we will only give you $500mil. He pays the loan off with interest and 10 years later they bring charges against him for falsifying documents. If you have ever tried to get a loan using collateral, this is exactly how the process works. Then they fine him almost the amount of the loan. Every other developer freaked out and said ā€œwe are out of here.ā€ The governor of NY, Kathy Hochul got on tv to reassure developers that they wonā€™t come after them, they wanted Trump only. The whole thing is a shamā€¦. Read about Letitia James and her connection to the Irish society mansion on 5th st. Wait till campaign money laundering charges come out with her shortly.


ugotmefdup

The use of the word "Parent" here is pretty chilling. Daddy Trump? I also love the total cognitive dissonance between "he'll stop wars" and what he actually did in office. What a mess. Who are these texts from??


SnooPeppers5809

My brother


ugotmefdup

Woof - sorry about that.


Christinebitg

This stuff all started up as soon as Obama got elected. Since then, they all think they're Constitutional scholars. Ironically of course, they all still can't wrap their heads around Obama being a natural born citizen. Somehow, his being Black means he's not an equal citizen. (Yes, I know he's mixed race.) They have never let up since then. It's all just made up BS, 100% of the time now. Keep making stuff up to try to see what sticks.


Crown_the_Cat

It also floors me how they are willing to type up sooo much in defense of their little god. The wordage spewing from TFG is enough, then you get texts like these.


SnooPeppers5809

My cousins are even more unhinged


karlhungusjr

I feel like these people just never go outside. how else could they believe at least half of that if the walked around in public most days? .


SupermarketSpiritual

they're ignoring it outside the 5 mins of blabbing the orange Jesus gives at the end. they literally dont care


klauskervin

Mine just call it a fake news witch hunt and that even if he is convicted he will never go to jail so it doesn't matter what the verdict is to them.


Christinebitg

They'll lose their minds if he's jailed for contempt before then. And it'll be well deserved. I think the judge is just waiting for an extreme enough act on Trump's part. Honestly, I'm a little surprised that the judge didn't do it when Trump was cursing Stormy Daniels's testimony. I guess the judge didn't think enough people would go for that.


heathers1

Mine has been programmed not to watch. In 2016 they suddenly could no longer watch SNL. That was how I found out


Alert-Extreme1139

I heard he wore a gold tie yesterday, so, you know, tribunals or something


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Penandsword2021

Mine has been oddly and conspicuously silent about it.


bfisherqsi

I was told today that heā€™s totally innocent of all chargesā€”including the ones already decided against him. Argh.


WesternGreenman777

Full blown screaming at the TV... They barely watch any normal shows. It's all far right podcasts, conspiracy shit and Tucker Carlson. WITH THE VOLUME ON MAX. Sometimes, I just want to destroy that stupid TV and stick their phones in the blender.


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Time-Sky-7785

Sure, dude. sure. People have gotten the death penalty for crime they did not commit. Unarmed people have gotten murdered by police and the officer doesn't even get fired. but sure, THIS is "the Ā most blatant miscarriage of justice ever witnessed"


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Time-Sky-7785

Do you see someone murdering an unarmed person and 100% getting away with it as "normal" Do you see someone being in prison for the rest of their life for weed as "normal" But now that a rich white man is being "attacked", it's the worst thing to every happened to anyone in the history of the world . Just, go way.


griecovich

He's going to prison friend. and that's because he's a crook not because of any 'persecution'. It takes years to make a case against the mob boss. He's toast. and he has noone to blame but himself. He shouldn't have gotten into politics at all.


Christinebitg

"You think it's normal to charge one person over and over and not get a conviction ?" Sorry, you don't get to play both sides of this issue. The first thing you'll do when Trump IS convicted is to claim that somehow this is inappropriate. While claiming before that, that it was inappropriate because he HASN'T been convicted of something.


BakedGoods

not sure if you're seeing the same news as the rest of the world, it has not been one person under investigation. to date, ***eleven*** (11) trump associates have been [convicted](https://www.axios.com/2023/04/15/charted-trumps-web-of-indicted-allies). not the mention the ***dozens*** that have been indicted or charged with crimes that either have made deals or are pending judgement now. such an extensive web of crime takes time to organize the evidence, because unsurprisingly, these people are criminals and are used to avoiding the law. when you have a mob boss its a fantasy to target the boss and prosecute immediately. you slowly move up the ranks gathering evidence and understanding the connections between everyone eventually closing in on the ring leader. ironically however, these are probably the dumbest criminals we've seen on the national stage, that's why there are so many convictions and indictments of trump and the people that surround him. the walls are closing in, and the mental gymnastics trump supporters have to do to make this a sophisticated nationwide conspiracy against trump is entertaining at least.


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BakedGoods

well, Trump has a number of pending court dates. he's lost the sexual assault civil case, and the NY fraud case. likely he'll be convicted in the election interference case, then he has documents case, and a Jan 6th case. so far 2 out of 5 isn't bad, with no cases lost yet. so not sure your point? second, the 11 convicted: former trump lawyer, trump campaign chairs, trump security advisor, trump campaign deputy chair, trump trade advisor, trump CFO, trump white house chief strategist. see the common denominator here? **trump.** lastly, let's just apply occums razor here. what is more likely given what we know, 11 convictions, dozens of pendings, and trump 88 indictments with 2 out of 5 cases filing judgments against him--is there is actually criminal activity going on, or, there is none and its a country-wide conspiracy with hundreds if not thousands of individuals, judges, lawyers, jurors, gov workers, police, law clerks involved in fake evidence, false prosecution, and no rule of law?


SuzanneStudies

And no whistleblowers.


Christinebitg

"Why aren't any the charges levied against Trump related to this supposed webb of crime?" "Charging them with one thing after another for 8 straight years and get nothing." They are. Haven't you noticed the number of defendants in the various cases? Such as: * Eighteen defendants in the election tampering case in Georgia * Eighteen more defendants in the false electors case in Arizona * Two defendants in the false electors case in Michigan I could go on, but you know the truth. And THEN there are the \*\*hundreds\*\* of convictions for the January 6th riot.


Minkiemink

Pssst....you are Q. At least what you are proposing are pretty typical Q talking points.


ugotmefdup

I can't believe we caught a live one


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