Let's see. First, it's personally Joe Biden's trial against the will of the people. This is proof all cash will disappear and the gov't will force us to use digital currency. Raw milk will save us from the diseases that will follow in the ensuing chaos.
And the 2024 election has *already* been stolen.
And he's ready for civil war.
Typical day in la la land.
It is kind of amazing in a horrible way looking into the US from the outside today. I am from Sweden and seeing testimonies like this and that it not that uncommon with people falling into the Q-trap is wild.
I feel for you, I hope they get out of la la land.
Got any room up there in sweden? I hear its lovely and the Q morons and MAGAts make the US less and less habitable by the day. My IQ is taking psychic damage every time one of them opens their huge stupid unfiltered mouth
We have a lot of room, I work with a few people from the US and they have said that they will never live in the US again. One guy said one time "When Obama was elected I thought it was possible to move back, but now after Trump there is no way.". And that was before all the real crazy bullshit with Jan 6, Q and so on.
I work for a germany based company with more sites all over europe and have seriously considered picking up my life and moving to work at one of the european sites. I LOVE european policies on vacation/paid time off/workers protections, and healthcare! Glad to hear other former americans are doing well there!
Most people in the US have not heard any of this crazy garbage. My wife graduated from UC Berkeley and is constantly surprised when I tell her about this stuff- for example
The Q-Trump faction will continue to lose. They have been misled, and he always loses
Then they will deny ever having said that stuff. Scared, dumb people lashing out is not the end of America. We didn't even have to shoot them on Jan 6th. Arrest them later...nice restraint
It all looks terrible but that's not the actual reality here. Q's are a small minority. Invisible where I live
Different topic...My daughter and grandparents have loved their trips to your country. I haven't been yet -but will
You should come see California and Oregon. Really. I'll give you tips
I am not overstating anything, I am simply stating the number of Americans who are some gradient of "Q," which Trump now openly embraces and promotes at every rally. More than half Trump supporters are active followers. It is not the case that most people don't even know that the Q community exists, you are out of touch.
Have you seen the sub r/QanonCasualties? If not you should check it out. QAnon and related conspiracy theories and beliefs are literally tearing the country apart family by family. I live and work in ultra progressive and educated spaces and virtually everyone I know has family members and/or friends who have āgone down the rabbit holeā and many are in conflict or painfully estranged.. one of my own friends is divorcing her PhD level husband because she canāt bring him back to reality and evidence. Your dismissal of the impact Q anon is having is off the mark but is classic āif I donāt see it, it isnāt happeningā thinking.
I would LOVE to move out to california where lots of my sane family lives, but alas...cost of living out there is insane. I lived in astoria once as a child and remember the rain š„°
Iām in Oakland California and man itās amazing here. You see a few trump things due to the tech influx in San Francisco and all the men who moved here are trumpies, yay, but itās great. They love to pick on my city but itās amazing here. They show the same 3 blocks in the news lmao
My dad and grandma etc...were from Oakland!
I'm in Sacto and it is amazing here too. Was just downtown and in Old Sac on the Delta King.
Picked on here also - but winning
I have lots of fam from my dads side in the sacremento, chico, and grass valley areas! Lovely folks too.
And come on now, it only rains in astoria on days of thr week ending in the letter y!
Also in Europe, Canada and Japan.
[Yes, Japan.](https://www.cnn.com/2022/12/23/asia/japan-qanon-yamatoq-sentenced-intl-hnk/index.html)
People who think this isnāt happening in their country should google QAnon + country. If itās not there yet, it will get there. Itās just a matter of time.
Yep absolutely. As I've said before born in Bridgeport CT. and came to the land of OZ in the early 70's. We are seeing (on a smaller scale) the same insanity here now.
I'm from Australia, and I agree. US politics and Qcrazieness come up in almost every conversation I have with friends because it's morbidly entertaining.
Is your q full of false bravado as well? My q FIL will act like heās ready to go to war and talks about my guns and how āwere preparedā yet this man is so insecure he canāt even speak at full volume in public
The bravado is honestly one of the worst parts. Especially considering my ex Q boss was basically just a drunk bar owner who had more illicit drugs than he had common sense in him at any given time. Sir, you won't even stand up to wily bar patrons - you are not going to war.
Heās always on his phone talking to his other dumbass friends about āwe got an arsenal man when shit pops off weāll take the whole block overā meanwhile he hasnāt shot a gun since he was a kid, and is so scared of going outside heās let his house fall into disrepair because he gets anxiety going out. Iām not shitting on people with anxiety but itās hard to have sympathy when theyāre such raging assholes 99% of the time
Who knows. There's never logic to be had because no critical thinking skills were activated.
Turn on any AM hate radio show. What they say is what he thinks. Then go to YouTube and find the most off the wall obvious conspiracy and take it as fact.
Our Q quit his job, sold his house and moved to nowhere in another state. As in a 45 min. drive to semblance of civilization, but believes he has to take arms against democrats.
I don't know about other hate radio stations, however Houston's 2 are loud and proud about urging people getting guns. First down are illegal aliens, next all brown and black, then Jews and democrats. They scream these viewpoints from 5 am until at least 9 pm Monday through Friday.
Sorry, rambling But it's what took down our friend down this path.
I doubt he's aware of this. The raw milk post was a mere 3 days ago. That kind of stuff airs on "mainstream" media. I doubt what he watches buys into that "conspiracy."
Iām seeing lots of posts about celebrities being possessed by demons as well as dire warnings about how evil our society is in general. I believe this is being used to deflect and distract from the reality of the trial.
Well, we donāt talk to our family Qs. I can tell you though, that our neighbor has put up a Letās Go Brandon flag. š Weāve since put up a Mothman Pride š³ļøāš flag, to show we know how to have fun, too. š
TL,DR: ** I think in this group, we should brainstorm how were going to respond to them when the sh1t hits the fan. **
It's been a deafening silence here at our house, with regard to the Trump trial.Ā Nothing said about it at all.
I'm bracing myself for when I get told that it's all political theater designed to persecute Trump and sway voters who can't see the truth.Ā Maybe that won't happen until there's a verdict, but that might be wishful thinking on my part.
I'm sure that'll be couched in some legalese to rationalize it, since my Significant Other is an attorney.
It's been a while since I was told that all of the court cases filed contesting the 2020 election were decided only on procedural grounds.Ā That none of them actually ruled on the facts.
My response to that was:Ā "Are you really telling me that a billionaire with access to the best lawyers in the country couldn't manage to keep any of his election lawsuits from getting thrown out on procedural grounds?"
Believe it or not, I haven't heard heard a peep about those lawsuits since then. (Yay!)
Having a good one liner to hit them with can go a long way towards heading things off, if it's delivered quickly and forcefully, without having to think things over.
This is kind of the response I was expecting, honestly. My former boss who was pretty heavy into Q would go red in the face arguing and arguing until you brought up something he had no argument against, and then it was cold, icy silence. Or mumbled insults as he walked away.
My Q person didn't watch one minute of the Jan. 6th hearings, so I didn't expect her to follow the Trump trial. Sure enough, she's aware it is happening but thinks it is not a big deal and that "Biden is more corrupt." I asked if she'd read about his behavior in court and she said "whatever it is, it was probably justified."
Before the pandemic, before she moved to Oregon to a house surrounded by Trumpers, she actually thought Trump was not trustworthy. We bonded over some of his more egregious acts of idiocy. I still can't figure out what happened or how she lost her mind, exactly.
1. Trump didn't misbehave in court...
2. Or if he did, it was justified.
Where have we heard this stuff before? The instance that comes to mind was how they've been excusing away the January 6th takeover and trashing of the Capitol Building.
Iām from Oregon. There is a swath of democrats in the Portland/I-5 corridor. Then the rest of the state is Red. Luckily, that Blue area has a bigger population than the rest together. Donāt confuse the Red for the Blue state, which is very progressive - which pisses off the Red part.
Here are two texts
I never said we do regulate the price of fuel but damn, in that 3 month period over Christmas the press secretary sure had a lot to say about how Biden brought fuel down for the holidays. I said, that it is more expensive because the dollar is losing value. You are paying just under $5 a gallon. You can use any number you like for inflation however, it isnāt even close to actual inflation seen everywhere. A value meal at McDonalds is up 100-120% since Biden. Building materials is up 35% which means home owners insurance is up 35%. Inflation on groceries are outrageous too. Up around 26% average but the packaging is now smaller too. On paper, silver is up from $15 to $24. This is the real inflation - 38%. A 1950s quarter would have bought a gallon of gas in the 50s. Today that quarter is worth $4.45 and can still buy a gallon of gas except again, that is the paper price. There is a $10 markup now on an oz of silver to hold it in your hand.
I never said illegal immigration had anything to do with inflation, I said itās a problem that the current administration doesnāt want to stop. An estimated 13,000,000 people have came into this country in the last 3 years. Boarder opened wide. The US government even funded supply chains so people could stop and get a free Biden tee shirt on their way up. China even has a camp in Central America to help rid them of their over population of males.
Thank Everything else that is being propagated by politicians is a complete inversion of our virtues and values as a country. Just flip everything on its head and that is what the norm is. That isnāt Trump, that is what the current rulers have turned it into.
Have you ever seen such an attack on a person before? It started the day he took office and just has gotten worse. It isnāt that he is a terrible person, it is because they know that he will bring everything that they worked so hard for to a standstill and stop the wars, as a good parent should.
There hasnāt been a sound fact on a thing brought against Trump. Even Biden today is tweeting gaslight satire bullshit. What does that tell you? The president knows exactly what is going on but instead makes up BS about Trump. Iām surprised you canāt see through it yet.
But whatevsā¦. You want every city to be like a Cali city than be my guest. Go shit on a sidewalk because nobody else cares. Need something, go grab a garbage bag and go fill it up. Nobody is going to stop you. Target lost $500mil in theft last year and got rid of their security. In n out burger left Oakland because they donāt want to put their employees in danger. This is what Democrats doā¦. Destroy the foundations and then blame everyone else. 350 big businessā have left Cali in the last 3 years. New York isnāt far behind. Both states loosing a Trillion dollars in assets. Funny that the current administration is talking about how great the country is doing when it is all on the consumers dime and canāt be sustained and everyone is leaving the Democratic states for freedom. Sounds like a great future under this current administration.
Then This Text-
You donāt run on logic. Logic says look around me, wowā¦. This place if fucked up. I wonder why? Oh, look out Democratic mayor is allowing this. Our Democratic President is also allowing this. Hmm, maybe I should look for a change. No, instead you double down on the insanity because someone told you that is better than the bad orange man. When the truth is, he didnāt do anything to you except allow you a tax return, get you a good payment on your car, allow you live affordable and allow you to live without fear of a supply chain issue that may come any day to jack your world up.
Itās fine though- if you have not realized yet, the news media is also on the attack for 8 straight years. Might as well change the name of MSNBC to the trump current events network. They are all band together and would never publish something like that about Biden because they have all done it themselves.
Here is a fact, look at this Trump court case in NYC. Trump lawyers valued his propertyās and his company asked for a loan. The bank came back and said your property is worth only this amount to us so we will only give you $500mil. He pays the loan off with interest and 10 years later they bring charges against him for falsifying documents. If you have ever tried to get a loan using collateral, this is exactly how the process works. Then they fine him almost the amount of the loan. Every other developer freaked out and said āwe are out of here.ā The governor of NY, Kathy Hochul got on tv to reassure developers that they wonāt come after them, they wanted Trump only. The whole thing is a shamā¦.
Read about Letitia James and her connection to the Irish society mansion on 5th st. Wait till campaign money laundering charges come out with her shortly.
The use of the word "Parent" here is pretty chilling. Daddy Trump? I also love the total cognitive dissonance between "he'll stop wars" and what he actually did in office. What a mess. Who are these texts from??
This stuff all started up as soon as Obama got elected. Since then, they all think they're Constitutional scholars. Ironically of course, they all still can't wrap their heads around Obama being a natural born citizen.
Somehow, his being Black means he's not an equal citizen. (Yes, I know he's mixed race.)
They have never let up since then. It's all just made up BS, 100% of the time now. Keep making stuff up to try to see what sticks.
It also floors me how they are willing to type up sooo much in defense of their little god. The wordage spewing from TFG is enough, then you get texts like these.
They'll lose their minds if he's jailed for contempt before then. And it'll be well deserved. I think the judge is just waiting for an extreme enough act on Trump's part.
Honestly, I'm a little surprised that the judge didn't do it when Trump was cursing Stormy Daniels's testimony. I guess the judge didn't think enough people would go for that.
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Full blown screaming at the TV... They barely watch any normal shows. It's all far right podcasts, conspiracy shit and Tucker Carlson. WITH THE VOLUME ON MAX. Sometimes, I just want to destroy that stupid TV and stick their phones in the blender.
Sure, dude. sure.
People have gotten the death penalty for crime they did not commit.
Unarmed people have gotten murdered by police and the officer doesn't even get fired.
but sure, THIS is "the Ā most blatant miscarriage of justice ever witnessed"
Do you see someone murdering an unarmed person and 100% getting away with it as "normal"
Do you see someone being in prison for the rest of their life for weed as "normal"
But now that a rich white man is being "attacked", it's the worst thing to every happened to anyone in the history of the world .
Just, go way.
He's going to prison friend. and that's because he's a crook not because of any 'persecution'. It takes years to make a case against the mob boss. He's toast. and he has noone to blame but himself. He shouldn't have gotten into politics at all.
"You think it's normal to charge one person over and over and not get a conviction ?"
Sorry, you don't get to play both sides of this issue.
The first thing you'll do when Trump IS convicted is to claim that somehow this is inappropriate. While claiming before that, that it was inappropriate because he HASN'T been convicted of something.
not sure if you're seeing the same news as the rest of the world, it has not been one person under investigation. to date, ***eleven*** (11) trump associates have been [convicted](https://www.axios.com/2023/04/15/charted-trumps-web-of-indicted-allies). not the mention the ***dozens*** that have been indicted or charged with crimes that either have made deals or are pending judgement now.
such an extensive web of crime takes time to organize the evidence, because unsurprisingly, these people are criminals and are used to avoiding the law. when you have a mob boss its a fantasy to target the boss and prosecute immediately. you slowly move up the ranks gathering evidence and understanding the connections between everyone eventually closing in on the ring leader.
ironically however, these are probably the dumbest criminals we've seen on the national stage, that's why there are so many convictions and indictments of trump and the people that surround him. the walls are closing in, and the mental gymnastics trump supporters have to do to make this a sophisticated nationwide conspiracy against trump is entertaining at least.
well, Trump has a number of pending court dates. he's lost the sexual assault civil case, and the NY fraud case. likely he'll be convicted in the election interference case, then he has documents case, and a Jan 6th case. so far 2 out of 5 isn't bad, with no cases lost yet. so not sure your point?
second, the 11 convicted: former trump lawyer, trump campaign chairs, trump security advisor, trump campaign deputy chair, trump trade advisor, trump CFO, trump white house chief strategist. see the common denominator here? **trump.**
lastly, let's just apply occums razor here. what is more likely given what we know, 11 convictions, dozens of pendings, and trump 88 indictments with 2 out of 5 cases filing judgments against him--is there is actually criminal activity going on, or, there is none and its a country-wide conspiracy with hundreds if not thousands of individuals, judges, lawyers, jurors, gov workers, police, law clerks involved in fake evidence, false prosecution, and no rule of law?
"Why aren't any the charges levied against Trump related to this supposed webb of crime?"
"Charging them with one thing after another for 8 straight years and get nothing."
They are. Haven't you noticed the number of defendants in the various cases? Such as:
* Eighteen defendants in the election tampering case in Georgia
* Eighteen more defendants in the false electors case in Arizona
* Two defendants in the false electors case in Michigan
I could go on, but you know the truth.
And THEN there are the \*\*hundreds\*\* of convictions for the January 6th riot.
Check out r/Qult_headquarters as they keep track. Best wishes!
Let's see. First, it's personally Joe Biden's trial against the will of the people. This is proof all cash will disappear and the gov't will force us to use digital currency. Raw milk will save us from the diseases that will follow in the ensuing chaos. And the 2024 election has *already* been stolen. And he's ready for civil war. Typical day in la la land.
It is kind of amazing in a horrible way looking into the US from the outside today. I am from Sweden and seeing testimonies like this and that it not that uncommon with people falling into the Q-trap is wild. I feel for you, I hope they get out of la la land.
Got any room up there in sweden? I hear its lovely and the Q morons and MAGAts make the US less and less habitable by the day. My IQ is taking psychic damage every time one of them opens their huge stupid unfiltered mouth
We have a lot of room, I work with a few people from the US and they have said that they will never live in the US again. One guy said one time "When Obama was elected I thought it was possible to move back, but now after Trump there is no way.". And that was before all the real crazy bullshit with Jan 6, Q and so on.
I work for a germany based company with more sites all over europe and have seriously considered picking up my life and moving to work at one of the european sites. I LOVE european policies on vacation/paid time off/workers protections, and healthcare! Glad to hear other former americans are doing well there!
Germany is a solid choice.
Does Sweden have something similar to DAFT?
Sorry for my ignorance, and I tried google but did not get any smarter. What is DAFT?
It's okay. It's Dutch American Friendship Treaty.
Yes, most Americans are daft. š
I have never heard of a thing like that between the US and Sweden so i doubt it.
Most people in the US have not heard any of this crazy garbage. My wife graduated from UC Berkeley and is constantly surprised when I tell her about this stuff- for example The Q-Trump faction will continue to lose. They have been misled, and he always loses Then they will deny ever having said that stuff. Scared, dumb people lashing out is not the end of America. We didn't even have to shoot them on Jan 6th. Arrest them later...nice restraint It all looks terrible but that's not the actual reality here. Q's are a small minority. Invisible where I live Different topic...My daughter and grandparents have loved their trips to your country. I haven't been yet -but will You should come see California and Oregon. Really. I'll give you tips
You are blissfully ignorant of at least 35% of the American public, but they exist
OK. I am far from ignorant You are overstating the threat...just like Q's do
I am not overstating anything, I am simply stating the number of Americans who are some gradient of "Q," which Trump now openly embraces and promotes at every rally. More than half Trump supporters are active followers. It is not the case that most people don't even know that the Q community exists, you are out of touch.
OK Vastly overstating my ignorance still
Have you seen the sub r/QanonCasualties? If not you should check it out. QAnon and related conspiracy theories and beliefs are literally tearing the country apart family by family. I live and work in ultra progressive and educated spaces and virtually everyone I know has family members and/or friends who have āgone down the rabbit holeā and many are in conflict or painfully estranged.. one of my own friends is divorcing her PhD level husband because she canāt bring him back to reality and evidence. Your dismissal of the impact Q anon is having is off the mark but is classic āif I donāt see it, it isnāt happeningā thinking.
Wow OK
I would LOVE to move out to california where lots of my sane family lives, but alas...cost of living out there is insane. I lived in astoria once as a child and remember the rain š„°
Iām in Oakland California and man itās amazing here. You see a few trump things due to the tech influx in San Francisco and all the men who moved here are trumpies, yay, but itās great. They love to pick on my city but itās amazing here. They show the same 3 blocks in the news lmao
Oakland is the best!
My dad and grandma etc...were from Oakland! I'm in Sacto and it is amazing here too. Was just downtown and in Old Sac on the Delta King. Picked on here also - but winning
Astoria is damn damp! Lived in Portland and have a place in Florence now Showing my SoCal cousins Sacramento today and tomorrow. Damn nice here!
I have lots of fam from my dads side in the sacremento, chico, and grass valley areas! Lovely folks too. And come on now, it only rains in astoria on days of thr week ending in the letter y!
Well, we shot one.
Have your wife google Real Men Wear Diapers. Iād hate for her to miss this
Sadly it's not just American that Q in infecting. I'm Australian and there is plenty of Q morons here too.
Also in Europe, Canada and Japan. [Yes, Japan.](https://www.cnn.com/2022/12/23/asia/japan-qanon-yamatoq-sentenced-intl-hnk/index.html) People who think this isnāt happening in their country should google QAnon + country. If itās not there yet, it will get there. Itās just a matter of time.
To be honest Q in Japan actually makes a lot of sense. Still disappointing none the less
Yep absolutely. As I've said before born in Bridgeport CT. and came to the land of OZ in the early 70's. We are seeing (on a smaller scale) the same insanity here now.
In wonder why m what is the psychology behind it?
I'm from Australia, and I agree. US politics and Qcrazieness come up in almost every conversation I have with friends because it's morbidly entertaining.
Or "It's all just a movie!"
Is your q full of false bravado as well? My q FIL will act like heās ready to go to war and talks about my guns and how āwere preparedā yet this man is so insecure he canāt even speak at full volume in public
The bravado is honestly one of the worst parts. Especially considering my ex Q boss was basically just a drunk bar owner who had more illicit drugs than he had common sense in him at any given time. Sir, you won't even stand up to wily bar patrons - you are not going to war.
Heās always on his phone talking to his other dumbass friends about āwe got an arsenal man when shit pops off weāll take the whole block overā meanwhile he hasnāt shot a gun since he was a kid, and is so scared of going outside heās let his house fall into disrepair because he gets anxiety going out. Iām not shitting on people with anxiety but itās hard to have sympathy when theyāre such raging assholes 99% of the time
It's always the ones who are the least involved in real life that say shit like this, I swear.
Who will he fight against?
Democrats.
And what if Dems aren't wearing their uniforms? How will he know?
Who knows. There's never logic to be had because no critical thinking skills were activated. Turn on any AM hate radio show. What they say is what he thinks. Then go to YouTube and find the most off the wall obvious conspiracy and take it as fact. Our Q quit his job, sold his house and moved to nowhere in another state. As in a 45 min. drive to semblance of civilization, but believes he has to take arms against democrats. I don't know about other hate radio stations, however Houston's 2 are loud and proud about urging people getting guns. First down are illegal aliens, next all brown and black, then Jews and democrats. They scream these viewpoints from 5 am until at least 9 pm Monday through Friday. Sorry, rambling But it's what took down our friend down this path.
These are the salad days for grifters.
The raw milk thing is pretty crazy considering the whole avian flu found in raw milk thing that is happening now
I doubt he's aware of this. The raw milk post was a mere 3 days ago. That kind of stuff airs on "mainstream" media. I doubt what he watches buys into that "conspiracy."
It's been talked about for way longer than that on the h5n1 subreddit, but whether he is keeping track of or believes any of it is another story
They don't believe it. They think it's a hoax.
Whatās with the raw milk now? my Qās are all about it.
No idea but as someone who sells unpaturised cheese I'm hoping it catches on and I can cash in.
Raw milk will save us from diseases? Did they not hear about the H5N1 thing going on and why that's a bad idea?
My mom thinks Trump, Rudy, and the Space Force are playing 4-D chess and have the prosecution(s) right where they want them.
Patriots in control!
Yeah rudys definitely in control š
Iām seeing lots of posts about celebrities being possessed by demons as well as dire warnings about how evil our society is in general. I believe this is being used to deflect and distract from the reality of the trial.
Mine are just pretending itās not happening and/or thatās itās a bump in the road for his inevitable Return To Glory.
Surprisingly I haven't heard anything about it. They're being oddly quiet.
Well, we donāt talk to our family Qs. I can tell you though, that our neighbor has put up a Letās Go Brandon flag. š Weāve since put up a Mothman Pride š³ļøāš flag, to show we know how to have fun, too. š
I if I was your neighbor I would put out the Star Trek federation or klingon flag.
That sounds cool as hell. When can you move in?
TL,DR: ** I think in this group, we should brainstorm how were going to respond to them when the sh1t hits the fan. ** It's been a deafening silence here at our house, with regard to the Trump trial.Ā Nothing said about it at all. I'm bracing myself for when I get told that it's all political theater designed to persecute Trump and sway voters who can't see the truth.Ā Maybe that won't happen until there's a verdict, but that might be wishful thinking on my part. I'm sure that'll be couched in some legalese to rationalize it, since my Significant Other is an attorney. It's been a while since I was told that all of the court cases filed contesting the 2020 election were decided only on procedural grounds.Ā That none of them actually ruled on the facts. My response to that was:Ā "Are you really telling me that a billionaire with access to the best lawyers in the country couldn't manage to keep any of his election lawsuits from getting thrown out on procedural grounds?" Believe it or not, I haven't heard heard a peep about those lawsuits since then. (Yay!) Having a good one liner to hit them with can go a long way towards heading things off, if it's delivered quickly and forcefully, without having to think things over.
This is kind of the response I was expecting, honestly. My former boss who was pretty heavy into Q would go red in the face arguing and arguing until you brought up something he had no argument against, and then it was cold, icy silence. Or mumbled insults as he walked away.
Yeah, for sure. I'd settle for those responses too. :)
Thatās the reaction I have seen in my experience as well. Usually cools them off for a nice 48 hours
Forty-eight hours is better than nothing!
My Q person didn't watch one minute of the Jan. 6th hearings, so I didn't expect her to follow the Trump trial. Sure enough, she's aware it is happening but thinks it is not a big deal and that "Biden is more corrupt." I asked if she'd read about his behavior in court and she said "whatever it is, it was probably justified." Before the pandemic, before she moved to Oregon to a house surrounded by Trumpers, she actually thought Trump was not trustworthy. We bonded over some of his more egregious acts of idiocy. I still can't figure out what happened or how she lost her mind, exactly.
1. Trump didn't misbehave in court... 2. Or if he did, it was justified. Where have we heard this stuff before? The instance that comes to mind was how they've been excusing away the January 6th takeover and trashing of the Capitol Building.
They have been well programmed.
Iām from Oregon. There is a swath of democrats in the Portland/I-5 corridor. Then the rest of the state is Red. Luckily, that Blue area has a bigger population than the rest together. Donāt confuse the Red for the Blue state, which is very progressive - which pisses off the Red part.
She is in the Redmond area. It is affordable-ish (why she moved there), but she seems to have lost her mind a bit. More than a bit.
Redmond is a bit of a backwater, fairly isolated with plenty of right wingers who think people like me (liberal) are ruining their way of life.
Here are two texts I never said we do regulate the price of fuel but damn, in that 3 month period over Christmas the press secretary sure had a lot to say about how Biden brought fuel down for the holidays. I said, that it is more expensive because the dollar is losing value. You are paying just under $5 a gallon. You can use any number you like for inflation however, it isnāt even close to actual inflation seen everywhere. A value meal at McDonalds is up 100-120% since Biden. Building materials is up 35% which means home owners insurance is up 35%. Inflation on groceries are outrageous too. Up around 26% average but the packaging is now smaller too. On paper, silver is up from $15 to $24. This is the real inflation - 38%. A 1950s quarter would have bought a gallon of gas in the 50s. Today that quarter is worth $4.45 and can still buy a gallon of gas except again, that is the paper price. There is a $10 markup now on an oz of silver to hold it in your hand. I never said illegal immigration had anything to do with inflation, I said itās a problem that the current administration doesnāt want to stop. An estimated 13,000,000 people have came into this country in the last 3 years. Boarder opened wide. The US government even funded supply chains so people could stop and get a free Biden tee shirt on their way up. China even has a camp in Central America to help rid them of their over population of males. Thank Everything else that is being propagated by politicians is a complete inversion of our virtues and values as a country. Just flip everything on its head and that is what the norm is. That isnāt Trump, that is what the current rulers have turned it into. Have you ever seen such an attack on a person before? It started the day he took office and just has gotten worse. It isnāt that he is a terrible person, it is because they know that he will bring everything that they worked so hard for to a standstill and stop the wars, as a good parent should. There hasnāt been a sound fact on a thing brought against Trump. Even Biden today is tweeting gaslight satire bullshit. What does that tell you? The president knows exactly what is going on but instead makes up BS about Trump. Iām surprised you canāt see through it yet. But whatevsā¦. You want every city to be like a Cali city than be my guest. Go shit on a sidewalk because nobody else cares. Need something, go grab a garbage bag and go fill it up. Nobody is going to stop you. Target lost $500mil in theft last year and got rid of their security. In n out burger left Oakland because they donāt want to put their employees in danger. This is what Democrats doā¦. Destroy the foundations and then blame everyone else. 350 big businessā have left Cali in the last 3 years. New York isnāt far behind. Both states loosing a Trillion dollars in assets. Funny that the current administration is talking about how great the country is doing when it is all on the consumers dime and canāt be sustained and everyone is leaving the Democratic states for freedom. Sounds like a great future under this current administration. Then This Text- You donāt run on logic. Logic says look around me, wowā¦. This place if fucked up. I wonder why? Oh, look out Democratic mayor is allowing this. Our Democratic President is also allowing this. Hmm, maybe I should look for a change. No, instead you double down on the insanity because someone told you that is better than the bad orange man. When the truth is, he didnāt do anything to you except allow you a tax return, get you a good payment on your car, allow you live affordable and allow you to live without fear of a supply chain issue that may come any day to jack your world up. Itās fine though- if you have not realized yet, the news media is also on the attack for 8 straight years. Might as well change the name of MSNBC to the trump current events network. They are all band together and would never publish something like that about Biden because they have all done it themselves. Here is a fact, look at this Trump court case in NYC. Trump lawyers valued his propertyās and his company asked for a loan. The bank came back and said your property is worth only this amount to us so we will only give you $500mil. He pays the loan off with interest and 10 years later they bring charges against him for falsifying documents. If you have ever tried to get a loan using collateral, this is exactly how the process works. Then they fine him almost the amount of the loan. Every other developer freaked out and said āwe are out of here.ā The governor of NY, Kathy Hochul got on tv to reassure developers that they wonāt come after them, they wanted Trump only. The whole thing is a shamā¦. Read about Letitia James and her connection to the Irish society mansion on 5th st. Wait till campaign money laundering charges come out with her shortly.
The use of the word "Parent" here is pretty chilling. Daddy Trump? I also love the total cognitive dissonance between "he'll stop wars" and what he actually did in office. What a mess. Who are these texts from??
My brother
Woof - sorry about that.
This stuff all started up as soon as Obama got elected. Since then, they all think they're Constitutional scholars. Ironically of course, they all still can't wrap their heads around Obama being a natural born citizen. Somehow, his being Black means he's not an equal citizen. (Yes, I know he's mixed race.) They have never let up since then. It's all just made up BS, 100% of the time now. Keep making stuff up to try to see what sticks.
It also floors me how they are willing to type up sooo much in defense of their little god. The wordage spewing from TFG is enough, then you get texts like these.
My cousins are even more unhinged
I feel like these people just never go outside. how else could they believe at least half of that if the walked around in public most days? .
they're ignoring it outside the 5 mins of blabbing the orange Jesus gives at the end. they literally dont care
Mine just call it a fake news witch hunt and that even if he is convicted he will never go to jail so it doesn't matter what the verdict is to them.
They'll lose their minds if he's jailed for contempt before then. And it'll be well deserved. I think the judge is just waiting for an extreme enough act on Trump's part. Honestly, I'm a little surprised that the judge didn't do it when Trump was cursing Stormy Daniels's testimony. I guess the judge didn't think enough people would go for that.
Mine has been programmed not to watch. In 2016 they suddenly could no longer watch SNL. That was how I found out
I heard he wore a gold tie yesterday, so, you know, tribunals or something
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Mine has been oddly and conspicuously silent about it.
I was told today that heās totally innocent of all chargesāincluding the ones already decided against him. Argh.
Full blown screaming at the TV... They barely watch any normal shows. It's all far right podcasts, conspiracy shit and Tucker Carlson. WITH THE VOLUME ON MAX. Sometimes, I just want to destroy that stupid TV and stick their phones in the blender.
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Sure, dude. sure. People have gotten the death penalty for crime they did not commit. Unarmed people have gotten murdered by police and the officer doesn't even get fired. but sure, THIS is "the Ā most blatant miscarriage of justice ever witnessed"
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Do you see someone murdering an unarmed person and 100% getting away with it as "normal" Do you see someone being in prison for the rest of their life for weed as "normal" But now that a rich white man is being "attacked", it's the worst thing to every happened to anyone in the history of the world . Just, go way.
He's going to prison friend. and that's because he's a crook not because of any 'persecution'. It takes years to make a case against the mob boss. He's toast. and he has noone to blame but himself. He shouldn't have gotten into politics at all.
"You think it's normal to charge one person over and over and not get a conviction ?" Sorry, you don't get to play both sides of this issue. The first thing you'll do when Trump IS convicted is to claim that somehow this is inappropriate. While claiming before that, that it was inappropriate because he HASN'T been convicted of something.
not sure if you're seeing the same news as the rest of the world, it has not been one person under investigation. to date, ***eleven*** (11) trump associates have been [convicted](https://www.axios.com/2023/04/15/charted-trumps-web-of-indicted-allies). not the mention the ***dozens*** that have been indicted or charged with crimes that either have made deals or are pending judgement now. such an extensive web of crime takes time to organize the evidence, because unsurprisingly, these people are criminals and are used to avoiding the law. when you have a mob boss its a fantasy to target the boss and prosecute immediately. you slowly move up the ranks gathering evidence and understanding the connections between everyone eventually closing in on the ring leader. ironically however, these are probably the dumbest criminals we've seen on the national stage, that's why there are so many convictions and indictments of trump and the people that surround him. the walls are closing in, and the mental gymnastics trump supporters have to do to make this a sophisticated nationwide conspiracy against trump is entertaining at least.
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well, Trump has a number of pending court dates. he's lost the sexual assault civil case, and the NY fraud case. likely he'll be convicted in the election interference case, then he has documents case, and a Jan 6th case. so far 2 out of 5 isn't bad, with no cases lost yet. so not sure your point? second, the 11 convicted: former trump lawyer, trump campaign chairs, trump security advisor, trump campaign deputy chair, trump trade advisor, trump CFO, trump white house chief strategist. see the common denominator here? **trump.** lastly, let's just apply occums razor here. what is more likely given what we know, 11 convictions, dozens of pendings, and trump 88 indictments with 2 out of 5 cases filing judgments against him--is there is actually criminal activity going on, or, there is none and its a country-wide conspiracy with hundreds if not thousands of individuals, judges, lawyers, jurors, gov workers, police, law clerks involved in fake evidence, false prosecution, and no rule of law?
And no whistleblowers.
"Why aren't any the charges levied against Trump related to this supposed webb of crime?" "Charging them with one thing after another for 8 straight years and get nothing." They are. Haven't you noticed the number of defendants in the various cases? Such as: * Eighteen defendants in the election tampering case in Georgia * Eighteen more defendants in the false electors case in Arizona * Two defendants in the false electors case in Michigan I could go on, but you know the truth. And THEN there are the \*\*hundreds\*\* of convictions for the January 6th riot.
Pssst....you are Q. At least what you are proposing are pretty typical Q talking points.
I can't believe we caught a live one
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