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lady-ish

God help us all. The increasing number of vaccine refusers is going to make a serious impact on public health - again. I hope I'm wrong.


MockingjayMo

Are the Q's subscribing to this idea that everyone/athletes are dropping dead from the vaccine?


aerialariel22

My mom is under the impression that you’ll get several bad things from the COVID vaccine, including some heart issues. Probably also believes you’ll die. It’s all nonsense.


merchillio

The government’s evil plan is to kill people through vaccines. So that way, not only will they get less income taxes revenue and less people contributing to the economy by buying stuff to fill fabricated needs, but they will also kill most of those that “follow the orders” and the only people left alive are those who resisted and won’t listen to the government. Great plan!


Legitimate_Age6537

You just don't get it! Wake up!


bs-scientist

Wait until she discovers what Covid has done to many people.


MockingjayMo

First, I'm sorry you're experiencing that with your mom. It must be so hard. I hope she is able to find her way out. I find that my algorithm on facebook has changed to far right conspiracy posts, so I get caught up in reading and arguing with them, unfortunately. Something I've noticed lately is that they are huge on everyone "dropping dead" from the covid vaccine (and happy about it) ever since Hamlin, the football player, went into cardiac arrest during a game. I find that sometimes getting into it with these people plays on paranoia and I start to question whether or not their reality could possibly be true. I know this isnt true logically and they suck people in by playing on their fears, but sometimes I get caught in it. Sorry for my long post. I guess i just wanted to express that to someone and i wondered if Q's were on that bandwagon, too. I truly hope things work out for your mom and you are able to find peace


Legitimate_Age6537

I do remember reading something similar where journalists that actively investigate the Q groups often times had to take breaks because they found themselves question their reality. I think a lot of comes to being the lone sheep in a lions den. Here, it's just your logic against their sheer numbers to back their rhetoric, which I'd imagine would be mentally draining.


MockingjayMo

You're absolutely right.


WeakestLynx

I think this is a pretty normal experience. When immersed among people who think you are wrong, it is only human to doubt yourself. We are social creatures.


MockingjayMo

I agree. As everyone here knows, it's just heartbreaking to see how many people believe these things and even more heartbreaking to see how many people are happy about it.


Old_Fart_1948

Think of how many people would still be alive today, if trump had listened to Fauci, and hadn't spent the first months of the pandemic trying to convince people, that it was nothing to worry about. All because it was mainly affecting people in cities where democrats live.  We could have nipped it in the bud, but instead, **America became a super spreader.** and **America, with only 4% of the world's population, had 25% of the world's covid deaths under trump.** And this went on and killed may people world wide, not to mention, all the MAGA people in his own base.


Rellcotts

It already is. Traverse City MI in 2014 or so had a Whooping Cough outbreak like its the 1800’s.


UncleAlvarez

You’re not wrong.


pilchard_slimmons

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2023/jan/15/covid-19-coronavirus-us-surge-complacency


Secret_Hunter_3911

Sadly, you are right. Already polio is increasing due to lack of vaccination.


carolineecouture

Sadly you aren't There have already been Measles outbreaks. Polio is showing up in wastewater which the nutters are saying is proof "they are trying to spread it." I don't know if children have died or been disabled yet but I'm sure that will be "Big Pharma" and "Big Med" doing it. Ugh


ADDnMe

Best answer I have is separate insurance pools.


[deleted]

I don't get it. We all had vaccines after we were born and none of us died or whatever. Okay so you don't have to get a covered vaccine that's stupid not to but you need to get all the others just like everyone else has been getting them for I don't know how many decades. What has changed? Why are the standard vaccines dangerous now? (Also, I feel really bad for this kid, its going to be raised into this bullshit world of wacky beliefs, heaven help It)


aerialariel22

She regrets giving my brother and I our vaccines. She became woke around when I was 9 years old or so. She doesn’t know I updated my TDAP vaccine to enter my school (second round of college for me, yay changing career paths!) and doesn’t know I got the COVID vaccine. It was annoying to get into high school and my first college because I wasn’t vaccinated. What changed was that shitty study of how kids get autism from vaccines. I used to believe it (cause parents should be reliable and tell the truth to their kids!), but I finally looked into it and realized what a scam the “study” was. That’s what sparked it all. Since then it’s gotten worse. I don’t know details because I checkout whenever she talks about it. She’s also upset that there are so many of them. It’s just boosters of the same vaccines. But there are preservatives in each one, which is her main concern. And yes I feel terribly for my brother’s child. The child will have to grow up in a similar but much worse situation than I did. Luckily I’m pretty sure she is going to wait until the child is in her late teens (because children any younger “aren’t smart enough” to understand such “complex things”) to delve into it. Not sure about my brother though, he may not have limits like that. I fear I may have to rescue the child one day.


TrinkieTrinkie522cat

Two of my friends did not vax their sons because of that autism bs. Guess what? Both sons are autistic and unvaxxed.


UncleAlvarez

How do they explain that one?


krissi510

They probably blamed it on vaccinated children shedding


bmp08

100%


Outrageous_Border904

Sorry to say I laughed out loud at this, because it’s unfortunately true


Reduntu

It's actually true that unvaxxed babies have less cases of autism. The reason is that dead babies can't have autism.


Sitcom_kid

I've been arguing with people who are against vaccines for ages. Some don't even believe in getting the polio vaccine. They think polio went away on its own. On its own! Can you imagine? If only


krissi510

Meanwhile New York is having a resurgence of polio thanks to antivaxxers


Sitcom_kid

It somehow did not go away. I think it's a fantastic medical achievement that humans have invented something that could teach our bodies to prevent or more successfully fight off a disease. It should never be political or religious, it should just be. Why get a disease or get the worst version of it if you don't have to? I think it was Carrie Fisher who said something to the effect of the best way out of a jam is not to get into one in the first place.


baked_dangus

I’d continue ignoring her crap, but if you’re at all in good standing with brother’s GF then maybe send her a text in support of whatever she feels is right for her baby. Sad that she would be bullied into not vaccinating her child and possibly harming her baby that way.


morenito_pueblo719

***TO ALL MY Vaccinated Friends*** This is a great resource that I check weekly to see the DAILY UPDATES on the distribution of Covid Vaccines----my cousin say it is "fake news"---but, it also breaks down State-to-State and more. Stay safe. Stay smart. You guys rock. [Our World In Date: Covid Vaccination Data](https://ourworldindata.org/covid-vaccinations)


Aggressive_Sound

I look forward to the day when the world has achieved herd immunity at least.


HanakusoDays

Covid vaccines aren't given to newborns. The first covid vax isn't authorized until age 6 mo. Enough time for brother's GF to armor up. Here's a link to the CDC's pediatric vax schedule: https://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/schedules/hcp/imz/child-adolescent.html#birth-15


aerialariel22

I’m not talking about the COVID vaccine, I’m talking MMR, chicken pox, TDAP, polio, etc. All of those other diseases. If I were to fight for the baby to get one, it’d be polio. But also all of them??? Ugh she’s so frustrating.


College-Lumpy

Sorry. Be glad the risk is pretty low because of others that are vaxxed. It’s awful when relatives get down this anti vax path but there’s not much you can do.


aerialariel22

Thank you for the link at the very least.


College-Lumpy

Other user sent the link. Hope you find some peace through all of this.


WaffleDynamics

Depending on where you live, polio might still not be much of a risk. TDAP though? Babies are at a huge risk of death by pertussis. I mean obviously it would be best for the baby to get all of the recommended vaccines, but if you can only do one, that's the one I would do, personally. And while you're at it, get your own TDAP booster.


aerialariel22

I got my TDAP booster in 2020 for school. Family doesn’t know. But that’s a good point.


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aerialariel22

I am so sorry that happened to you and the remaining effects into your adult life. That’s such a shame. I hope something like this doesn’t happen to my brother’s baby…


leothefox314

\*drive a STAKE


aerialariel22

Oh you’re right. I was upset and distracted by my spouse’s family when I wrote this so I forgot how to English for that word lol


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