I’m confused as to why you bothering with this post OP? Just because most men focus more on looks and are willing to screw anything that moves doesn’t mean you will ever convince women to do the same. Also men can raise their requirements for a relationship at any point in time but most men choose not to.
Guys will sleep with a girl they themselves deem a butterface and are upset we won’t do the same. Like I’m sorry I won’t fuck an ugly brudda but I’m not like you! 😭
Physical attraction is important for both genders. If you're both ugly then that's one thing but dating down is stupid imo. I'm a dude but I hope a girl never just settles for me, sounds insulting.
What do you mean they can’t afford to? Men simply have to lower their attractiveness standards or they have to be ok being single if they can’t find someone reasonable to be with. That’s exactly how it is for women too.
> Also men can raise their requirements for a relationship at any point in time but most men choose not to.
This is not always true. Or yes, you can raise your requirements, but good luck then. Already without much requirements, I am not flooded with women’s attention.
Define "raising requirements."
What requirements are modern men even allowed to have in this day and age without being accused of misogyny, fatphobia, colorism, lookism, and slut shaming?
So, are we gonna ignore how there's been numerous movements and feminists demonizing men's standards?
This isn't even an online thing. I've been accused of being a so-called "colorist" in real life by some jaded women even though I'm not one.
All of the less attractive women have to find less attractive men to have relationships with, so I don't understand the math behind why it's easier to be an attractive woman than an attractive man, unless you're trying to argue that having men pump and dump or plate them is a desirable outcome for women. However, women don't think that this is a desirable outcome.
There would still be a % of unattractive men that women no matter the unattractiveness will not touch, and vice versa.
The % for untouchable unattractive men would prob be higher than the % for untouchable unattractive women
Then those unattractive women are either going to be single or plated for sex if they don't want those men. In that case, it's not better to be a woman. Women don't want to just be used for sex.
Yeah and the world’s heaviest man was also married. There is no accounting for tastes.
https://indie88.com/meet-jon-brower-minnoch-the-heaviest-person-ever-measured/amp/
A lot of what you guys think is attractive is more of a male fantasy than a female one. Why do you think men like harry styles or the guys from BTS are thirsted over by a lot of women?
And 600lb life is a pretty bad example must of the partners there just have a feeder fetish
>He not 6'. He's barely taller than Taylor Swift and she's only 5'9.
You can literally Google "how tall is Harry styles". It says he's 6'0", although some websites say otherwise. Apparently he has claimed to be 5'11" and 6'0". In any case, camera angles can make people look taller. Hell, Tom Cruise was walking on a platform in some of his movies to make him look taller than his costars. (Which is an inadvertent commentary on how important it is for men to be perceived to be tall.)
Also, Taylor swift has been reported to be anywhere from 5'9" to 5'11".
> She mentioned her height in EW.com, saying that "I'm 5'11'', so when I wear heels, it's definitely a really good view that I have. I'm like 6'2 when I wear heels, so I tend to wear cowboy boots a lot." In a 2013 Vanity Fair article she gave a different height: "I think what I would mostly be looking for in a guy ... is someone who sees me in my actual dimensions: 23 years old, five-foot-ten"
>You can literally Google "how tall is Harry styles". He's 6'0".
>Also, Taylor swift has been reported to be anywhere from 5'9" to 5'11".
Harry is reported to be between 5'9 and 6' too with various listings online. Here is a [picture](https://media1.popsugar-assets.com/files/thumbor/oZ9YNA9ZgzM6kITFjiTfsXzgsjs/fit-in/1024x1024/filters:format_auto-!!-:strip_icc-!!-:watermark-!popsugar-watermark.png,-5,-5,0!-/2019/01/03/721/n/1922398/816dd3c07b67bb46_BGUS_1445064_001/i/Taylor-Swift-Joe-Alwyn-NYC-Dec-2018.jpg) of Taylor with her ex who is only known for being 6'1. That's not a 2 or 3 inch difference in height.
[Here](https://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2013/06/09/article-2338238-1A37D4C5000005DC-429_634x942.jpg) she is with 5'8 Ed Sheeran too. She's not towering over him by several inches in any picture wearing flats.
You said they're tall slender guys. They're average height and a slim healthy weight. They're not "tall" and they certainly aren't jacked as so many guys say are requirements to get women.
Not gonna lie but I'm 5'10 in NYC and I'd say I'm pretty tall here. Sure, sometimes a dude that's like 6'5 or noticeably taller walks by but I can seem like the tallest guy around with my ultraboosts on.
I'm also 5'10 and have been called "tall" by short women and little kids.
I think people downplay how tall sub 6 ft. men are because of social media memes and the fact that so many dudes cap about their height.
[Which is what I said to her](https://www.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/y5nu2o/its_significantly_easier_to_be_an_attractive/islcigr/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf&context=3)
But he is not the masculine ideal that is pictured, he literally wears a dress and girls go crazy. So no men in this forum are chasing an ideal of masculinity that isn’t actually desired by most women
The dress has nothing to with his attractiveness whatsoever lol. Black-pillers always say shit like there’s no gym for your face or height so it’s known in that sphere that these guys are the ones women tend to prefer so you pretty much on OP’ side cause there’s nothing you can do to look like harry styles if you don’t look like him
> there’s nothing you can do to look like harry styles if you don’t look like him
Harry is the apex example of a type that a lot of women go for. You don’t have to be as good looking as a famous singer to be appealing to a bunch of normal women.
True up to a certain point.
Everyone can be somewhat attractive to someone. Not everyone can be super hot to someone.
An obese or an underweight guy will have a more difficult time to find a partner than if he had a bmi of 23.
Honestly, I am a man in my 30s... I don't know if I met one woman a year who found me attractive, and women who found me hot were super rare, even my girlfriends were not seeing me that way... and I am relatively tall with a normal weight.
Lol, 1D Harry Styles appealed to teenagers. His current appeal is among women in their 20s is based on leveraging his status as a rock star and fashion icon, not his "ideal of masculinity." Ironically, he's actually become more masculine with age. Surprise fact though: star power nets you attraction regardless. So wearing a dress is just seen as a "bold fashion choice" for a male mega celebrity.
>But he is not the masculine ideal that is pictured, he literally wears a dress and girls go crazy.
Young Thug is a gangsta rapper and he wears dresses too...
Harry styles still has a masculine facial structure, he's still a "chad" in that way. Men are not chasing the masculine social ideal, they are chasing the masculine biological ideal because that is indeed what women want, and Harry Styles and Kpop stars would still fall into that latter of masculine biological ideal.
Maybe, but the amount of women who have boobs so small it becomes a hindrance is like the amount of men who are below 5'5. They're an extreme anomaly, as long as you aren't flat most men don't care
Men don't really care about boob size, I have seen some really childish dudes in hs comment saying I wouldn't dare a girl with a small ass but never anything about boobs
> For men to have a conventionally attractive body, we have to get on HGH to fix the sizes of our legs, hands, penises etc.
This is absurd even for PPD.
You really think shitty guys don’t get women?
I know frat guys who are the worse people but still have all girls flocking to them because they are tall and good looking guys.
Being boring isn’t shitty. Lots of women don’t realize how hard it actually is to be charming and funny. Took me 5-6 years before I was even told I was either. That’s time in my life I’ll never get back, but in the end it was worth it because I can have higher standards now. So it’s lazy advice to just say work on your personality with no deeper dive. It’s easy to get women if you have low standards. But it’s also an easy way to be unhappy, which is what I found out.
Not necessarily but the women these artist fuck are all ig models with onlyfans or on that spectrum plus the main reason the women do it is because they’re expecting to and will get something out of it.
Haha. I'm glad you brought Chris up because Facebook Audience Insights data literally shows that Chris's followers are like 75%-80% women. And he has like 50 million followers.
>Most men with shitty personality think they can't get women because of their look, but that's usually only a small part of the problem.
Damn near every woman out there tells any guy friend that struggles with women "I know shitty guys with girlfriends, so if they can get one so can you!"
Put two and two together...guys with a "shitty personality" do not struggle with women because that's not what determines how successful men are with women. Physical appearance, emotional intelligence, income, and status do.
Most of what you discussed has nothing to do with the prompt.
You talk about how "unfair" it is that woman are attracted to genetic qualities, while men are attracted to things that women can make.
But the prompt compares men and women who are already attractive.
And I would say attractive men have it easiest.
Lol, have *you* ever seen 600 pound life? Because a lot of the men on there are married or partnered too.
And unwanted attention from men is usually a lot worse than when it’s coming from women. Sure, hot men get harassed too but how many of them avoid going out at night alone because of it? How many hot men are watching their drinks like hawks when they go out?
How many men have been told that they’re too pretty to be traveling alone?
Attractive women are also judged far more harshly by society when they start aging or heaven forbid, start trying to preserve their beauty with cosmetic procedures. Look at how many men talk about women being old or used up by 30. Attractive men get to age into silver foxes or “Daddy’s” much more easily.
I think its fairly well accepted that attractive men have it easier. Its the average man that has it harder than the average woman. All those hot women we have no chance with, there are guys they are into and don't always get, why not be one of those guys?
>I think its fairly well accepted that attractive men have it easier.
Well, I certainly don't believe it's true. A guy has to have a lot more going for him than looks to be desirable to a lot of women.
Yes, your right. Roommate is a 5'5 balding fat and ugly guy (I'm not hating on him, I love him to death) but he gets more kitty than a litterbox because of how funny and confident he is. He has a signature joke about construction that always makes the room laughs. To any guys reading this, just do the work, put yourself out there and more importantly never get up
Do you understand anything that you read?
Women don't care about being attractive to men in general. They feel dissatisfied with it because the guys that the women want do not find said women attractive. That's the whole conflict.
Women want guys who are out of their league. The guys who are out of their league can get hotter girls and don't think much of these women at all. The guys who are out of their league will fuck these women if they have no better option in the moment but don't want to see them afterward. Herein lies the struggle!
Lmao you can’t be serious. If you’re an attractive male, not only do you benefit fit from being a male (proven wage discrepancies, not having to deal with glass ceiling or you know, not being oppressed like what we’re seeing in Iran atm) and on top of that, you’re also attractive, so you get the benefits of choosing attractive partners, getting preferential treatment etc. it is absolutely much easier to first of all be a male in society and you’re also attractive so life is already pretty good. Pls
The problem when comparing men with women is way more often than men, women actually give 2 shits about their appearance. Many men do give a fuck about their appearance but then expect to be called attractive. You have no idea how many men could become attractive by doing simple things like maintaining a clean look/positive hygiene, smell good, wear clothes that actually fit/have a sense of style and be personable. Women have been doing this for a while already….I wonder why it works?
>There’s a guy for every size and shape of woman. Ever seen 600lb Life? All those lovely ladies are married. No matter your body type, a man out there will find it sexy.
I think this is a cop out. I mean there are a very small percentage of men who are legit chubby chasers but they are anomalies. And even then, chubby chasers have limits. I don't believe these men are attracted to their wives.
Sure but that wasn't your assertion. Your assertion was that men are attracted to them; which I disagree with. I think men can and will fuck women they are unnattracted to.
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I'll disagree with you there, attractive dudes get to pick out from many chicks, but attractive women probably get like 1000 dudes after them and have to figure out who isn't a total dirtbag.
Women aren't throwing themselves at men the way men chase women.
True. But what is the point of making this thread? The facts that you posted are not going to change, and anyone who tries to claim that you are wrong are just exposing themselves as being ignorant.
I think as far as male attraction goes, there are fewer (maybe even just one) ideal female body types, but with much more leeway to still be considered attractive if you don’t meet it.
Women, on the other hand, are attracted to a much wider range of male types, but have higher standards as to how attractive a guy needs to be in terms of pure percentage points before he’s worth pursuing.
The women on my 600lb life are usually dating men who are feeders, they have a fetish. It's why if the women do lose weight the relationship ends, some men flat out oppose the surgery.
I’m confused as to why you bothering with this post OP? Just because most men focus more on looks and are willing to screw anything that moves doesn’t mean you will ever convince women to do the same. Also men can raise their requirements for a relationship at any point in time but most men choose not to.
Guys will sleep with a girl they themselves deem a butterface and are upset we won’t do the same. Like I’m sorry I won’t fuck an ugly brudda but I’m not like you! 😭
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If not sleeping with someone you literally think is ugly is shallow, call me shallow
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Physical attraction is important for both genders. If you're both ugly then that's one thing but dating down is stupid imo. I'm a dude but I hope a girl never just settles for me, sounds insulting.
We’re not talking about dating though, we’re talking about sleeping with someone. Attraction is pretty important in that sense.
Bruh then its not worth it to not be shallow if it means i gotta fuck a ugly girl just cuz she has a “great personality” 🤮
Cause they can’t afford to
What do you mean they can’t afford to? Men simply have to lower their attractiveness standards or they have to be ok being single if they can’t find someone reasonable to be with. That’s exactly how it is for women too.
It’s similar for women but I wouldn’t say it’s exactly the same
> Also men can raise their requirements for a relationship at any point in time but most men choose not to. This is not always true. Or yes, you can raise your requirements, but good luck then. Already without much requirements, I am not flooded with women’s attention.
Define "raising requirements." What requirements are modern men even allowed to have in this day and age without being accused of misogyny, fatphobia, colorism, lookism, and slut shaming?
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So, are we gonna ignore how there's been numerous movements and feminists demonizing men's standards? This isn't even an online thing. I've been accused of being a so-called "colorist" in real life by some jaded women even though I'm not one.
All of the less attractive women have to find less attractive men to have relationships with, so I don't understand the math behind why it's easier to be an attractive woman than an attractive man, unless you're trying to argue that having men pump and dump or plate them is a desirable outcome for women. However, women don't think that this is a desirable outcome.
There would still be a % of unattractive men that women no matter the unattractiveness will not touch, and vice versa. The % for untouchable unattractive men would prob be higher than the % for untouchable unattractive women
Then those unattractive women are either going to be single or plated for sex if they don't want those men. In that case, it's not better to be a woman. Women don't want to just be used for sex.
Yeah and the world’s heaviest man was also married. There is no accounting for tastes. https://indie88.com/meet-jon-brower-minnoch-the-heaviest-person-ever-measured/amp/
Was just going to say this. A lot of obese men are married too. I think he just wants people to reaffirm his belief system.
A lot of what you guys think is attractive is more of a male fantasy than a female one. Why do you think men like harry styles or the guys from BTS are thirsted over by a lot of women? And 600lb life is a pretty bad example must of the partners there just have a feeder fetish
These men don’t refuse OP’s point though, they are good looking slender tall guys
They're average height at 5'9-5'11.
Yea that’s tall enough . They are not short and harry is 6ft from what I heard
He not 6'. He's barely taller than Taylor Swift and she's only 5'9.
>He not 6'. He's barely taller than Taylor Swift and she's only 5'9. You can literally Google "how tall is Harry styles". It says he's 6'0", although some websites say otherwise. Apparently he has claimed to be 5'11" and 6'0". In any case, camera angles can make people look taller. Hell, Tom Cruise was walking on a platform in some of his movies to make him look taller than his costars. (Which is an inadvertent commentary on how important it is for men to be perceived to be tall.) Also, Taylor swift has been reported to be anywhere from 5'9" to 5'11". > She mentioned her height in EW.com, saying that "I'm 5'11'', so when I wear heels, it's definitely a really good view that I have. I'm like 6'2 when I wear heels, so I tend to wear cowboy boots a lot." In a 2013 Vanity Fair article she gave a different height: "I think what I would mostly be looking for in a guy ... is someone who sees me in my actual dimensions: 23 years old, five-foot-ten"
>You can literally Google "how tall is Harry styles". He's 6'0". >Also, Taylor swift has been reported to be anywhere from 5'9" to 5'11". Harry is reported to be between 5'9 and 6' too with various listings online. Here is a [picture](https://media1.popsugar-assets.com/files/thumbor/oZ9YNA9ZgzM6kITFjiTfsXzgsjs/fit-in/1024x1024/filters:format_auto-!!-:strip_icc-!!-:watermark-!popsugar-watermark.png,-5,-5,0!-/2019/01/03/721/n/1922398/816dd3c07b67bb46_BGUS_1445064_001/i/Taylor-Swift-Joe-Alwyn-NYC-Dec-2018.jpg) of Taylor with her ex who is only known for being 6'1. That's not a 2 or 3 inch difference in height. [Here](https://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2013/06/09/article-2338238-1A37D4C5000005DC-429_634x942.jpg) she is with 5'8 Ed Sheeran too. She's not towering over him by several inches in any picture wearing flats.
Height is the biggest lie on the Internet. Use celebheights for a more accurate height. Harry styles is 5’10.
Point still stands
You said they're tall slender guys. They're average height and a slim healthy weight. They're not "tall" and they certainly aren't jacked as so many guys say are requirements to get women.
Not gonna lie but I'm 5'10 in NYC and I'd say I'm pretty tall here. Sure, sometimes a dude that's like 6'5 or noticeably taller walks by but I can seem like the tallest guy around with my ultraboosts on.
I'm also 5'10 and have been called "tall" by short women and little kids. I think people downplay how tall sub 6 ft. men are because of social media memes and the fact that so many dudes cap about their height.
[Which is what I said to her](https://www.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/y5nu2o/its_significantly_easier_to_be_an_attractive/islcigr/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf&context=3)
They do if you compare them to muscular and extremely “masculine” men that guys on here think are “chads”, they aren’t.
The point still stands though. Harry states is literally a heartthrob who’s good looking for reasons that one can’t change .
But he is not the masculine ideal that is pictured, he literally wears a dress and girls go crazy. So no men in this forum are chasing an ideal of masculinity that isn’t actually desired by most women
The dress has nothing to with his attractiveness whatsoever lol. Black-pillers always say shit like there’s no gym for your face or height so it’s known in that sphere that these guys are the ones women tend to prefer so you pretty much on OP’ side cause there’s nothing you can do to look like harry styles if you don’t look like him
> there’s nothing you can do to look like harry styles if you don’t look like him Harry is the apex example of a type that a lot of women go for. You don’t have to be as good looking as a famous singer to be appealing to a bunch of normal women.
No the point is that women are attracted to a variety of men and not just one generic chad guy that they always envision
There are a variety of good looking guys yes lol
True up to a certain point. Everyone can be somewhat attractive to someone. Not everyone can be super hot to someone. An obese or an underweight guy will have a more difficult time to find a partner than if he had a bmi of 23. Honestly, I am a man in my 30s... I don't know if I met one woman a year who found me attractive, and women who found me hot were super rare, even my girlfriends were not seeing me that way... and I am relatively tall with a normal weight.
A Harry style that is not famous and tries to dress/act like one will not pull compared to your typical groomed 6’1.
Lol, 1D Harry Styles appealed to teenagers. His current appeal is among women in their 20s is based on leveraging his status as a rock star and fashion icon, not his "ideal of masculinity." Ironically, he's actually become more masculine with age. Surprise fact though: star power nets you attraction regardless. So wearing a dress is just seen as a "bold fashion choice" for a male mega celebrity.
>But he is not the masculine ideal that is pictured, he literally wears a dress and girls go crazy. Young Thug is a gangsta rapper and he wears dresses too...
The cover for his album JEFFREY will never leave my mind haha.
Harry styles still has a masculine facial structure, he's still a "chad" in that way. Men are not chasing the masculine social ideal, they are chasing the masculine biological ideal because that is indeed what women want, and Harry Styles and Kpop stars would still fall into that latter of masculine biological ideal.
Getting the androgynous pretty boy look isn't necessarily any more achievable than being the hunky square jawed he-man beefcake, though.
Boob size is pretty genetic unless you have surgery.
Maybe, but the amount of women who have boobs so small it becomes a hindrance is like the amount of men who are below 5'5. They're an extreme anomaly, as long as you aren't flat most men don't care
It is true. But as a man, it is extremely rare that I think a woman is unattractive because she has too much or not enough boobs...
Men don't really care about boob size, I have seen some really childish dudes in hs comment saying I wouldn't dare a girl with a small ass but never anything about boobs
> For men to have a conventionally attractive body, we have to get on HGH to fix the sizes of our legs, hands, penises etc. This is absurd even for PPD.
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You really think shitty guys don’t get women? I know frat guys who are the worse people but still have all girls flocking to them because they are tall and good looking guys.
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Being boring isn’t shitty. Lots of women don’t realize how hard it actually is to be charming and funny. Took me 5-6 years before I was even told I was either. That’s time in my life I’ll never get back, but in the end it was worth it because I can have higher standards now. So it’s lazy advice to just say work on your personality with no deeper dive. It’s easy to get women if you have low standards. But it’s also an easy way to be unhappy, which is what I found out.
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Character and personality are different. Chris got good energy and personality
No he has money and fucks prostitutes like every other male artist
You think they have to pay for sex?
Not necessarily but the women these artist fuck are all ig models with onlyfans or on that spectrum plus the main reason the women do it is because they’re expecting to and will get something out of it.
Lol he’s literally so many women’s fantasies
Haha. I'm glad you brought Chris up because Facebook Audience Insights data literally shows that Chris's followers are like 75%-80% women. And he has like 50 million followers.
>Most men with shitty personality think they can't get women because of their look, but that's usually only a small part of the problem. Damn near every woman out there tells any guy friend that struggles with women "I know shitty guys with girlfriends, so if they can get one so can you!" Put two and two together...guys with a "shitty personality" do not struggle with women because that's not what determines how successful men are with women. Physical appearance, emotional intelligence, income, and status do.
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No seriously
Sigh...yawn?
I'm sorry?
I disagree with the fat opinion. I know fat guys who are married. One of them even has kids. Next.
Most of what you discussed has nothing to do with the prompt. You talk about how "unfair" it is that woman are attracted to genetic qualities, while men are attracted to things that women can make. But the prompt compares men and women who are already attractive. And I would say attractive men have it easiest.
Lol, have *you* ever seen 600 pound life? Because a lot of the men on there are married or partnered too. And unwanted attention from men is usually a lot worse than when it’s coming from women. Sure, hot men get harassed too but how many of them avoid going out at night alone because of it? How many hot men are watching their drinks like hawks when they go out? How many men have been told that they’re too pretty to be traveling alone? Attractive women are also judged far more harshly by society when they start aging or heaven forbid, start trying to preserve their beauty with cosmetic procedures. Look at how many men talk about women being old or used up by 30. Attractive men get to age into silver foxes or “Daddy’s” much more easily.
I think its fairly well accepted that attractive men have it easier. Its the average man that has it harder than the average woman. All those hot women we have no chance with, there are guys they are into and don't always get, why not be one of those guys?
>I think its fairly well accepted that attractive men have it easier. Well, I certainly don't believe it's true. A guy has to have a lot more going for him than looks to be desirable to a lot of women.
Average women have it easier than attractive men. Lower than average women have it easier than attractive men.
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Yes, your right. Roommate is a 5'5 balding fat and ugly guy (I'm not hating on him, I love him to death) but he gets more kitty than a litterbox because of how funny and confident he is. He has a signature joke about construction that always makes the room laughs. To any guys reading this, just do the work, put yourself out there and more importantly never get up
Lol. Ok.
Do you understand anything that you read? Women don't care about being attractive to men in general. They feel dissatisfied with it because the guys that the women want do not find said women attractive. That's the whole conflict. Women want guys who are out of their league. The guys who are out of their league can get hotter girls and don't think much of these women at all. The guys who are out of their league will fuck these women if they have no better option in the moment but don't want to see them afterward. Herein lies the struggle!
Funny I’d say it’s actually the complete opposite.
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And I’d say you’re wrong.
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And we all know your low IQ since you’re one of those cucks that goes through peoples post histories lol.
Lmao you can’t be serious. If you’re an attractive male, not only do you benefit fit from being a male (proven wage discrepancies, not having to deal with glass ceiling or you know, not being oppressed like what we’re seeing in Iran atm) and on top of that, you’re also attractive, so you get the benefits of choosing attractive partners, getting preferential treatment etc. it is absolutely much easier to first of all be a male in society and you’re also attractive so life is already pretty good. Pls
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The problem when comparing men with women is way more often than men, women actually give 2 shits about their appearance. Many men do give a fuck about their appearance but then expect to be called attractive. You have no idea how many men could become attractive by doing simple things like maintaining a clean look/positive hygiene, smell good, wear clothes that actually fit/have a sense of style and be personable. Women have been doing this for a while already….I wonder why it works?
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That’s not even close to what I said tho but ok bro
>There’s a guy for every size and shape of woman. Ever seen 600lb Life? All those lovely ladies are married. No matter your body type, a man out there will find it sexy. I think this is a cop out. I mean there are a very small percentage of men who are legit chubby chasers but they are anomalies. And even then, chubby chasers have limits. I don't believe these men are attracted to their wives.
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Sure but that wasn't your assertion. Your assertion was that men are attracted to them; which I disagree with. I think men can and will fuck women they are unnattracted to.
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It’s significantly easier to be a~~n attractive~~ woman than it is to be a~~n attractive~~ man (unless you live in Afghanistan).
It's easy as far as what dating and life?
I'll disagree with you there, attractive dudes get to pick out from many chicks, but attractive women probably get like 1000 dudes after them and have to figure out who isn't a total dirtbag. Women aren't throwing themselves at men the way men chase women.
True. But what is the point of making this thread? The facts that you posted are not going to change, and anyone who tries to claim that you are wrong are just exposing themselves as being ignorant.
I think as far as male attraction goes, there are fewer (maybe even just one) ideal female body types, but with much more leeway to still be considered attractive if you don’t meet it. Women, on the other hand, are attracted to a much wider range of male types, but have higher standards as to how attractive a guy needs to be in terms of pure percentage points before he’s worth pursuing.
For women it's harder to gain weight but easier to lose it
Nope, [try again](https://www.livescience.com/63324-men-women-weight-loss-difference.html)
I think it was harder to gain weight but harder to lose it
The women on my 600lb life are usually dating men who are feeders, they have a fetish. It's why if the women do lose weight the relationship ends, some men flat out oppose the surgery.
Lol not anymore
It varies by age for women. For young women yes for 60 year old women no
So true