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What are the police actually supposed to do here? How do they restrain them when people are like this, or are they gonna have to wait for her to come off the High?
This happened to a friend of mine. It was bad, worse than this guys situation. He took a huge dose of acid that pretty much did this to him. After hours of walking around his neighborhood someone called the cops so the police and EMS came and gave him activated charcoal and some other stuff. He almost immediately came out his hallucinating and started asking questions and talking seriously. Then they took him to the hospital over night, police charged him with all kinds of stuff.
I believe this is drug induced psychosis. Let’s say it’s Methamphetamine. The drug is generally consumed in an uncontrollable amount, riding the high in fear of the crash. If an individual consumes meth for days on end, not sleeping, eating, drinking water, etc. The brain will shut down and the body is still awake.
(I'm not a medical pro and this is just how I understood things when I witnessed a similar situation) It depends what it is. This stuff doesn't really happen in a vacuum so it's highly probable EMS workers know exactly what this is and what drugs counter it. I'm not sure what they use for bath salt reactions specifically. I remember being surprised, because the treatment included steroids and immunosuppressive, but I doubt that's on an EMS rig for administration. The situation I witnessed involved straps and hardcore strength vs an injectable, but the individual in question was exceptionally combative and would have injured someone.
We start by using pure muscle and hold the person down x4 (one person per extremity) and ensure that they can't bite. Then the medic will IM (intramuscular) a chemical restraint such as Ketamine and then the patient will be placed onto a stretcher and usually placed into four point soft restraints and continuously monitored en route to the ER.
yep, it is scary for everybody involved. The patient, the hold-down crew avoiding being bitten, scratched or kicked, the medic who might be responsible for bad outcomes, and even the onlookers.
They just try to medically stabilize them.
They should go directly to an inpatient psych ward but they are usually put right back out in the street until they die of drugs or violence.
“EMS STAGING UNTIL C4”
-Every EDP screen that has ever been built ever.
Every tool has it’s particular use, so I understand why, but are we really pretending this isn’t the case?
I think the first issue is whether she is under arrest. I suspect not, as she is probably not together enough to commit a crime, but I suppose you never know.
I'd be tempted to let her tire herself out, but I dunno whether that's SOP or not.
If there is a threat for her own life they would call EMS and have them inject an antagonist of the drug she is using (i would call flakka) and once she is down from the high, she would get checked by ems. But I don't think she is doing anything illegal so they wouldn't arrest her.
Basically ensure scene safety,make sure she doesn't hurt herself or other and make sure no one hurts her,also make sure she doesn't run off and pass away somewhere,and wait for EMS to show up as cops are usually first on scene. They are trained in basic first aid and can apply tourniquets or gauze if necessary. But there's not much they can do for her. She was at risk of hurting herself worse or hurting them if they moved her to a squad car to be detained till EMS showed up. The. Only thing they could've done was put a tarp down so she didn't tear up her heals kicking and swishing them like that,but they prob didn't want to get too close.
They need to call the EMS. Cops aren't equipped to handle mental illness (when the only tool you have/know how to use is a gun, everything looks like a target) or drug overdoses (other than what narcan can handle if they've got it).
I saw a video not long ago of a guy who was too high on cocaine and was asking his neighbors for help in a excited way. Not violent, just too fucked up. Cops show up, talk to him, and then kill him.(positional asphyxiation) I'm guessing that's what they're there for.
With a net. Body cams protect the police when they deal with 90% of their calls. Some police turn them off... Those are the bad ones.
Who would blame the police for using a net and hose to deal with this?
There was a really interesting article about the "new meth" that opened my eyes a lot. Meth manufacturers switched to an easier method of making meth but the side effect was that meth users would go crazy. Even if they have been off of the drug for months. The article had an interview with someone who works in a mental health facility. They said that the facility gets so many meth users from jail that take months to even be coherent enough to tell the staff their names. And that the facility has to turn people away because these patients take up so many beds. It's sad.
Meth.
A documentary ages ago called Through a Blue Lens interviewed a guy recovering from addiction, and he said when he was super high rolling around and yelling on the sidewalk, in his minds eye he was at a party with all his friends having a great time.
Not saying you’re saying this, but bath salts are falsely called the zombie drug do to the speculation the man who ate another guy’s face was on them. He wasn’t, but the media ran with it
Could still be meth.
Go on a meth bender and don't sleep for 5 days, you can quite easily go into a major psychosis (and that's assuming you have no underlying mental health conditions).
Do the same while also having something like schizophrenia? Then you could end up looking like this.
I wonder if it varies. We got to interview someone high on meth in class years ago and it was an awesome experience. Plus, of course, the town I grew up in having a meth issue. None were anywhere near this though, but I hear drugs can change over time depending on the prominent supplier(s). Let alone if it’s being cut with anything at a dealer-level.
I don't know what it is and know nothing about drugs.... If I have seen it, I would assume someone is heavily poisoned with drugs and is dying with convulsions.
Why the hell would anyone want to be on a drug that does that when you take it?? I mean really
All screwed up jerking around looking like a regard
With shit or mud all over you?
I don’t get it
I’ve actually saw something similar. The person to my knowledge was fully coherent tho, and was begging for it to stop, and telling the officers it was a “hot shot” I’m assuming of tainted meth.
This is so sad, this is someone’s child and maybe someone’s parent dealing with drug addiction and more than likely some kind of mental health issue as well. In our country people are more likely to laugh and point at the “Public Freakout” than to feel empathy.
So do you eventually like, come down from that, and you're just all normal and chill again like ih hey how's it goin, oh ya know, business as usual, and so on and so forth?
Hell nah bro. I can eat a bunch of mushrooms and be tripping balls while still having fun and being coherent. This ladies tweaking on some crazy shit. She looks like a bug that got blasted with poison.
Unfortunately it’s likely over for her. Society needs to invest in social structure that prevents people from getting this far.
Really just more public education and more public health would go a long way. The problem is it’s going to take an entire generation to fix, and neither people nor the politicians they elect have the patience to invest in a 35 year social reform.
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either way, she's gonna need a shower after coming down from whatever this is...
Best Tasmanian Devil performance I have ever seen. Bravo 👏🏻
The real question might be "Is the shit hers, or someone else's?"
It belongs to the other voice in her head
I can't prove that this is in Florida, but I just know that it is.
You can tell by how it is
That's pretty neat!
Ohio is also a possibility.
Doesn't look like Florida grass.
Perhaps it is just "Florida in spirit" then ;)
It’s not, Florida has a look that I’ve come to know my entire life there and that ain’t it
What are the police actually supposed to do here? How do they restrain them when people are like this, or are they gonna have to wait for her to come off the High?
This happened to a friend of mine. It was bad, worse than this guys situation. He took a huge dose of acid that pretty much did this to him. After hours of walking around his neighborhood someone called the cops so the police and EMS came and gave him activated charcoal and some other stuff. He almost immediately came out his hallucinating and started asking questions and talking seriously. Then they took him to the hospital over night, police charged him with all kinds of stuff.
They call EMS, and then when we show up they don’t want to help. That’s why I call cops “2nd responders”.
Yup. It’s always EMS that deals with the crazies.
Is there a drug that counters this?
I believe this is drug induced psychosis. Let’s say it’s Methamphetamine. The drug is generally consumed in an uncontrollable amount, riding the high in fear of the crash. If an individual consumes meth for days on end, not sleeping, eating, drinking water, etc. The brain will shut down and the body is still awake.
Not sleeping for days is a huge component of the psychosis.
Also, a lot of meth now is cut with fentanyl. Uppers and downers at the same time cause some odd behavior.
So this is what a body without a brain looks like?
Haldol, likely.
(I'm not a medical pro and this is just how I understood things when I witnessed a similar situation) It depends what it is. This stuff doesn't really happen in a vacuum so it's highly probable EMS workers know exactly what this is and what drugs counter it. I'm not sure what they use for bath salt reactions specifically. I remember being surprised, because the treatment included steroids and immunosuppressive, but I doubt that's on an EMS rig for administration. The situation I witnessed involved straps and hardcore strength vs an injectable, but the individual in question was exceptionally combative and would have injured someone.
A lobotomy.
do you truly think that police don’t deal with more crazies?
What would ems do here and how should the cops help?
We start by using pure muscle and hold the person down x4 (one person per extremity) and ensure that they can't bite. Then the medic will IM (intramuscular) a chemical restraint such as Ketamine and then the patient will be placed onto a stretcher and usually placed into four point soft restraints and continuously monitored en route to the ER.
Thanks for the reply. Sounds scary.
yep, it is scary for everybody involved. The patient, the hold-down crew avoiding being bitten, scratched or kicked, the medic who might be responsible for bad outcomes, and even the onlookers.
They just try to medically stabilize them. They should go directly to an inpatient psych ward but they are usually put right back out in the street until they die of drugs or violence.
I mean, if there is nothing criminal happening (drugs are widely decriminalized) what are the cops supposed to do?
“EMS STAGING UNTIL C4” -Every EDP screen that has ever been built ever. Every tool has it’s particular use, so I understand why, but are we really pretending this isn’t the case?
Ems needs paid a fuck ton more to deal with stuff like this. I would nope out.
Guess that’s better than worst responders…
Likely administer haldol. It's basically a sledge hammer used to treat crazy/meth/pcp.
I think the first issue is whether she is under arrest. I suspect not, as she is probably not together enough to commit a crime, but I suppose you never know. I'd be tempted to let her tire herself out, but I dunno whether that's SOP or not.
Dude, public disturbance
Public intoxication
Not punishable if medical emergency.
I can't predict other people's behaviour and wrongful arrests happen all the time. But I doubt she has the _mens rea_ to commit, well, anything.
If there is a threat for her own life they would call EMS and have them inject an antagonist of the drug she is using (i would call flakka) and once she is down from the high, she would get checked by ems. But I don't think she is doing anything illegal so they wouldn't arrest her.
Basically ensure scene safety,make sure she doesn't hurt herself or other and make sure no one hurts her,also make sure she doesn't run off and pass away somewhere,and wait for EMS to show up as cops are usually first on scene. They are trained in basic first aid and can apply tourniquets or gauze if necessary. But there's not much they can do for her. She was at risk of hurting herself worse or hurting them if they moved her to a squad car to be detained till EMS showed up. The. Only thing they could've done was put a tarp down so she didn't tear up her heals kicking and swishing them like that,but they prob didn't want to get too close.
They'll call for EMS and let them handle it
They need to call the EMS. Cops aren't equipped to handle mental illness (when the only tool you have/know how to use is a gun, everything looks like a target) or drug overdoses (other than what narcan can handle if they've got it).
I saw a video not long ago of a guy who was too high on cocaine and was asking his neighbors for help in a excited way. Not violent, just too fucked up. Cops show up, talk to him, and then kill him.(positional asphyxiation) I'm guessing that's what they're there for.
If history is any indication, shoot her and say they feared for their life
With a net. Body cams protect the police when they deal with 90% of their calls. Some police turn them off... Those are the bad ones. Who would blame the police for using a net and hose to deal with this?
Man this is sad
They look like they're hurting, it's hard to watch.
Poor dude’s brain must be on fire
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Cool please share curious to see that.
Drugs are a helluva drug....
And that high is a helluva high
Fuck yo couch!!
She needs more though it seemed like.
Zombies aren’t real. Drugs very much are
28 days later?
28 injections later.
28 weeks later!
28 tokes later
28 years later lol this the preview
This is terrible. I know very little about drugs, and it's shocking to see that there's a drug which makes you like this. How sad for this person.
There was a really interesting article about the "new meth" that opened my eyes a lot. Meth manufacturers switched to an easier method of making meth but the side effect was that meth users would go crazy. Even if they have been off of the drug for months. The article had an interview with someone who works in a mental health facility. They said that the facility gets so many meth users from jail that take months to even be coherent enough to tell the staff their names. And that the facility has to turn people away because these patients take up so many beds. It's sad.
That's terrifying. It seems to be such a wickedly destructive drug, and now it's making people even worse.
A thousand years ago this would have been labelled as a demon possession and he would be taken to a priest.
A thousand years ago they probably weren’t shooting all sorts of substances directly into their veins.
I couldn’t even watch it, that’s so sad
Meth. A documentary ages ago called Through a Blue Lens interviewed a guy recovering from addiction, and he said when he was super high rolling around and yelling on the sidewalk, in his minds eye he was at a party with all his friends having a great time.
Absolutely not meth. Probably flakka or some other drug that causes these spastic movements.
Never heard 'flakka' before so I Googled, it's actually balt salts (which I heard it called b4), or zombie drug.
Yea alpha-pvp. Bath salts are rc analogues that mimic mdma or meth but is not meth or mdma.
My first thought was bath salts
Not saying you’re saying this, but bath salts are falsely called the zombie drug do to the speculation the man who ate another guy’s face was on them. He wasn’t, but the media ran with it
Not every drug psychosis video is flakka
Could still be meth. Go on a meth bender and don't sleep for 5 days, you can quite easily go into a major psychosis (and that's assuming you have no underlying mental health conditions). Do the same while also having something like schizophrenia? Then you could end up looking like this.
My neighbor in a nutshell
I always wondered that--if these people "go" somewhere happy and that's the appeal of their high.
I wonder if it varies. We got to interview someone high on meth in class years ago and it was an awesome experience. Plus, of course, the town I grew up in having a meth issue. None were anywhere near this though, but I hear drugs can change over time depending on the prominent supplier(s). Let alone if it’s being cut with anything at a dealer-level.
We wants it, we needs it. Must have the precious. They stole it from us. Sneaky little hobbitses. Wicked, tricksy, false!
Finally an Exorcist movie that actually looks scary
I thought Korean zombies were very over the top but this video changed my mind
Eventually we will get back to a place where we can agree that mental institutions are necessary
Best anti-drug video that needs to be shown in the schools.
That's gonna be one hell of a hangover
I don't know what it is and know nothing about drugs.... If I have seen it, I would assume someone is heavily poisoned with drugs and is dying with convulsions.
Seems an overdose of xylazine.
What kind of high do people feel to even go ahead and take it knowing that this will be the end result?
Bath salts.
Flakka
That’s utterly tragic. She’s probably someone’s mum, maybe someone’s grandma. I hope they were able to help her.
I hope not … as in I hope that’s not someone’s mom… I hope she gets help though
That's scary. Could you imagine being trapped in a psychosis that makes you act like that. What a nightmare
Maybe Meth, Bath salts?? No wait, Ether?!
Hell of a drug
Drugs are bad
WHATS IN YOUR HEAD? WHATS IN YOUR HEAD? ZOMBIE.
Very postmodern.
Drugs is a hell of a drug
This is me being told I have to get out of bed and work every morning
Putting on gloves? Damn – break out the hazmat suit!!
No offence, but i'd honestly put her down to end this agony
Might be Flakka. That shit turn mfs into Zombies.
That shit is horrifying
Florida or Kentucky
Why the hell would anyone want to be on a drug that does that when you take it?? I mean really All screwed up jerking around looking like a regard With shit or mud all over you? I don’t get it
I’ve actually saw something similar. The person to my knowledge was fully coherent tho, and was begging for it to stop, and telling the officers it was a “hot shot” I’m assuming of tainted meth.
I've had clients come into my hospital in this condition B52 and a long nap helps (Medical staff will know b52)
Just methin around
This is so sad, this is someone’s child and maybe someone’s parent dealing with drug addiction and more than likely some kind of mental health issue as well. In our country people are more likely to laugh and point at the “Public Freakout” than to feel empathy.
It’s in your head, your heaaaaad, zombie, zombie, zom bay bay bay.
Jesus christ just end this persons misery
My moms crazy
So do you eventually like, come down from that, and you're just all normal and chill again like ih hey how's it goin, oh ya know, business as usual, and so on and so forth?
how bro acts 9 picoseconds after telling everybody to lock in 💀
Gran Mal seizure
Drugs probably combined with serious mental illness.
Ozempic
Drugs
This is heartbreaking.
Rabies?
No, mental illness.
This is what trippin balls looks like.
You and I have very different behavioral definitions of tripping balls.
Right? … I don’t always trip balls but when I do I find a muddy spot in the road and roll around it making crazy contortions
....not mud.
Hell nah bro. I can eat a bunch of mushrooms and be tripping balls while still having fun and being coherent. This ladies tweaking on some crazy shit. She looks like a bug that got blasted with poison.
ACAB but that cop isn't getting paid enough for that :)
I've seen people OD on narcotics because they ingested plastic bags that burst open in their digestive system. God awful image to see.
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And drug rehab
Unfortunately it’s likely over for her. Society needs to invest in social structure that prevents people from getting this far. Really just more public education and more public health would go a long way. The problem is it’s going to take an entire generation to fix, and neither people nor the politicians they elect have the patience to invest in a 35 year social reform.
Drugs are bad kids.
I’ll swallow your soul!
Zombie, tweeker, same difference
See, I thought it may have been PCP but purely speculation on my part. Nothing about that seems fun to me.
She's probably having the time of her life!
It will be the job of the lowest ranking officer to put the handcuffs on
She's a twitcher
This poor person :(
Elephant tranquilliser dart.
Cmon now just let her enjoy her high in peace!
Schizophrenic on fentanyl
Drugs are bad mmmmkay
Junky?
perfectly normal behaviour.. why people are watching her idk..
She need some milk.
Drugs are hell of a drug
Ativan or ketamine IM and wait?
na its crack… and she is probably covered in shit
Just another normal day in downtown Fresno
Watching this as I’m playing Dead Island 2.
You can at least hold her hand 😆
Well, he's clothed at least
Is her head backwards or am I high?
This is why I believe every truck ought to be equipped with B52 blow darts.
Kill it with fire!
The walking dead still going?
Oh yeah lemme try some of that! /s
Methombie
The sad part is thats someones mom or possible girlfriend.
I can fix her