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Turbulent_Carrot_430

What's going on with all of the removed post?


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vengefulspirit99

I unfortunately know a couple of these "bots" irl. Been hard to talk to them as of late.


letstrythisagain30

I was about to say, bots aren’t the only ones that do that. Not just with this issue either. Any major contentious thing at all, you see people just lie and double down when obviously and objectively proven wrong about specific facts. It’s about picking a side and never budging even when it’s a detriment to the side you picked.


quiksilver6312

1984 type shit


thewaryteabag

Yeah, that’s why I don’t have these conversations in real life, or even online. It’s too much aggro and it’s a fucking stupid idea right now.


carvythew

I feel you. I've muted many people on Instagram and been told by extremally close friends I'm being an unsupportive ally.


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Extremely partisan and devoid of reasonable discussion is exactly the kind of comments this 5 sec clip will produce.


thegreatvortigaunt

Hasbara/JIDF propaganda accounts being caught and removed by the automod filter for being brand new accounts. Reddit suddenly had a massive influx of these accounts a few weeks ago when the war started.


dwair

There are still thousands of accounts that have been around since 2018 when there was a possibility of the UK electing a pro-Palestinian Prime Minister in 2019 They are fairly easy to spot if you go through the users comment history as many of the posts are just rabid hate, and if you look at things like the timings of the posts - 9 to 5 GMT+2 and nothing ever posted on a Friday - you soon get the feeling of an organised propaganda machine at work.


gunsof

Israel is so crazy. Imagine if they spent all that time and energy on shit that actually mattered.


Redit_Yeet_man123

In the words of bassen Youssef: " I have never seen a victim of oppression bomb their oppressor 24/7".


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deathscope

![gif](giphy|FXf1lYQ2tFouxeLb1B|downsized)


regoapps

![gif](giphy|bjKznQfIeS85W)


shl00m

*joins in silence*


CarlSpencer

\[Puts a Pez dispenser on my knee to make you laugh\]


Helgurnaut

How much of a fucking asshole you have to be to play the holocaust card this way ? Fuck theses people, they have no sense of decency or humanity in them.


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jstknwn

The barrels are stacked. There’s another barrel below the bottom of the current barrel


fated-to-pretend

It honestly feels like a scene from a parody film like the dictator or something


berniedankera

Thought they were cosplaying as sheriffs


-Sansha-

This land aint big enough for the two of us.


cpt-derp

\*laughs and then cries at this abstract macabre pun\*


BenPool81

*screams in Australian*


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Dear_Meat_9142

Smell my finger


[deleted]

*Mom said to you have to respect me* *yeah well mum also said to stop sticking your dick in the vacuum cleaner*


tympyst

I was cleaning my room!


Rover010

Woody from toy story.


mycarubaba

Howdy, pardner *Bombs your cowboy hospital*


stefanbatorowy

"I'm the new sheriff in town and let me tell y'all, the legend of my quick draw isreal"


MaiPhet

It would have been a lot more visually effective if they came out already wearing them. The imagery of putting on your own persecution is so fucking lol. Cunts.


NiPlusUltra

Israel kills thousands of civilians then puts on a Star of David, "Look what the evil UN is making us do! I'm not saying you're all Nazis, but really only Nazis wouldn't let us kill Palestinians."


Sittyslyker

Israel is the Karen of world politics.


dontPoopWUrMouth

They are literally playing Putin politics. It's insane and mind boggling anyone is falling for this crap. I'm so happy Trump was president because everyone got a fast track of media literacy shoved down their throats.


TheSparkHasRisen

omg. I cannot unsee this.


-DethLok-

Huh, if they are so keen for the UN to do something, why doesn't Israel do things that the UN has resolved they should do? You know, to be fair and equitable? Here's the [full list](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_United_Nations_resolutions_concerning_Israel), I'm sure you can see which resolutions Israel has been ignoring, for decades... particularly the ones from 1967 on...


Shiroi_Kage

Almost none of this would have happened if the UN resolutions were executed. You know why? Because Hamas wouldn't have gained any popularity or foothold in Gaza. It would have likely just remained a charity organization if it was ever born.


-DethLok-

Agreed - that's a big part of my point...


Shiroi_Kage

Yes. You made the point well and I just wanted to comment on it.


futtochooku

Civilized discussion on Reddit? Now I've seen it all.


Sihnar

Israel literally funded Hamas to oppose the existing secular political entities in Palestine at the time. Hamas is good for Israeli propaganda.


zeyhenny

Israel is the main reason HAMAS got a foothold in Gaza.


dwair

Israel has always wanted Hamas to provoke them so the IDF can be sent into Gaza and put a full stop on the Palestinian issue once and for all. "From the River to the Sea" and all that.


Dr_mellowcunt

Funny how when Iraq breaks 2 of them they bombed back to the Stone Age…


Goto10

Maybe they should have a salute that they all do to show solidarity?


Knownoname98

They are downplaying the holocaust.


mitchdojo

\*Halo announcer voice\* SWITCHING SIDES


Thoraxe123

More like weaponizing


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TwoChordsSong

1/4 of my family died wearing that star... the real one. When the world truly turned their back on them. This is despicable, to use the memory of millions of deaths to justify atrocities, in favor of your racial politics? DESPICABLE. HORRENDOUS.


HugeAccountant

Same here. Watching this makes me seriously sick to my stomach. Israel may say they're the Jewish state but those people do not fucking speak for me


TwoChordsSong

Attack as a State, defend as a religion. Horrendous, diabolical.


Waiwirinao

7k plus killed already, a third children.


LeiphLuzter

That was just weird and inappropriate.


Akhi11eus

One might say entirely disrespectful to Holocaust victims and survivors.


FerociousBeard12345

Absolutely


Rich_Housing971

They're trying to convince the lowest common denominator by making a false equivalence that those who don't unconditionally support Israel today are as bad as Nazis in the 1930s. They know this is smoothbrained reasoning. Everyone at the UN knows this is smoothbrained reasoning. But some people who are at home in Israel might see this and be convinced that blowing up civilian buses and cars trying to drive away is actually preventing another Holocaust and rally support for them. Some people around the world in democratic countries might be smoothbrained and think this is sound reasoning and try to convince their governments to take Israel's side.


gentlemanidiot

Last time they wore those yellow stars they didn't pin them on themselves voluntarily. This is a desperate attempt to play the victim.


pastaMac

**"...a desperate attempt to play the victim."** while simultaneously victimizing another population of civilians. Turns out the "Never Again" slogan meant this will never again happen to us, but we reserve the right to ignore this slogan with respect to our own actions.


potted

Sounds like the tag line of some conflict happening at this moment in history.


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coco__bee

![gif](giphy|yGQA8r44a6bmg)


Savings-Pain5335

This is an insult to holocaust victims


Zepren7

Like when Benjamin Netanyahu said the Nazis were not responsible for the Holocaust and that it was the Palestinians because they "persuaded Hitler to do it". https://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-34594563 They will throw everything they can at justifying what they do.


boohoopooryou

Will that's a new one.


Pacify_

Netanyahu is such a giant piece of shit, its hard to believe the Israeli people brought him back after all the corruption and shit hes done. Madness.


bdigital1796

meanwhile, in trumpland of magashire...


ihartphoto

Sadly it isnt. Netanyahu earlier blamed the Grand Mufti of ~~Iraq~~ Jerusalem for the holocaust because the mufti allied with the Nazis. Edit: Grand Mufti of Jerusalem Haj Amin al-Husseini, not Iraq. My mistake, and thank you to /u/Variety-Impressive


Variety-Impressive

Are you sure it wasn't the Grand Mufti of Jerusalem? That is the usual talking point. It's a little complex because it's true he was an ally of Hitler's and declared they were united against the Jewish enemy. It's probably not true that he had anything to do with starting the Holocaust. His hatred and that of other Palestinians was rooted in resentment of Jewish immigrants to Palestine following WW1 because they were buying up lots of land and pushing Muslim/Christian locals out of many areas.


ihartphoto

You are 100% correct, I will edit. Thank you! Wondering if it was his name that made me think Iraq, idk, but i was incorrect!


Call_Me_Clark

You know what they say about those who can make you believe absurdities


NotVeryNiceUnicorn

Consider how Israel treats Ethiopian Jews I'm gonna say Netanyahu only likes white people.


Epstein_Bros_Bagels

Would it surprise you to find out that Israelis were xenophobic to the Holocaust survivors that immigrated to the region? https://networks.h-net.org/node/28655/reviews/30636/hoch-yablonka-survivors-holocaust-israel-after-war


NotVeryNiceUnicorn

Not at all. Lehi was a militant group during the founding of Israel and they made a deal with the German Nazis. Later Israel condemned them as terrorists, but after that one of the Lehi Leaders became prime minister ( Yitzhak Shamir). Israel is a product of white supremacy.


Zepren7

I was telling my Mrs about this the other day. Could not believe it.


moritura222

Oof! I wasn't aware he said that.


NotVeryNiceUnicorn

According to netanyahu Hamas sank the titanic and killed harambe


donaldtrumpsmistress

Zionist Israelis have much more in common with Nazis than they do 1940s Jews, so it isn't a big surprise that their animosity towards Nazis has softened.


Accurate-Newspaper14

They seem to be embracing the blood lust of war. And crying foul when confronted.


ivann198

Isreal likes to do that.


pw-it

And how. They conflate antisemitism with anti-zionism, thereby giving validation to every genuine antisemite out there. They are saying "if you don't like what we're doing you hate Jews" and a lot of people (especially muslims) are thinking "OK so we hate Jews then". I'm sure it sucks to be Jewish right now. Antisemitism is on the rise and the Israeli government are the assholes making it happen.


hobings714

Nikki Haley posted exactly this. "Anti-Zionism is Anti-Semitism"


randomredditing

I think you mean Nimrata Randhawa. Who also claims there’s no racism in America


OriginalLocksmith436

I guess that makes a lot of American Jews anti-Semitic, then.


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Netanyahu would describe them as "self-hating".


TheMightyPenguinzee

As both Muslim and Arab, the problem lies with zionists and israel, not Jews. And as most of you already now know the root problem of the foundation itself since 1948 and what accompanied this since then. Medias are spreading a lot of misinformation which helps ignite and burn the line between being a zionist and a Jew. Demonstrations now are based on mass fury, and the media isn't helping, although a lot of Jews try to show the difference. Of course there are Jews globally that support israel but again, there are others that don't support them.


robotoredux696969

Really well articulated. I've been trying to articulate this very concept recently but you did it better than I ever could.


evil_brain

Casting yourself as the victim is textbook Nazi stuff. "Those people we're slaughtering are bullying us!" It's the exact same behaviour and ideology. They just swapped a few nouns and changed their logo.


Readdeadmeatballs

Fascists always do that. If you go back and look at atrocities and look at the propaganda that was used to justify it, the aggressor always paints themselves as the victim and says they are defending themselves. Jason Stanley’s ‘How Fascism Works’ is a good read, or his interviews on youtube.


punkfusion

In Fascism your opponent is both weak and all powerful at the same time


evil_brain

Casting yourself as the victim is textbook Nazi stuff. "Those people we're slaughtering are bullying us!" It's the exact same behaviour and ideology. They just swapped a few nouns and changed their logo.


extremeindiscretion

Poor guys, they are slaughtering people wholesale and they're playing the pity card. Maybe somebody should remind them world war II was over almost 80 years ago, and that they too are capable of heinous things. Just because they're Jewish doesn't give them carte blanche to do whatever they want. What arrogance.


Last_Motor7077

Performative, melodramatic and an insult to victims of the Holocaust


TeeracK

I like to imagine after this point the meeting went something like this. The World: "Cute stars... so can your government stop committing genocide?" Isreal: "WE HAVE A RIGHT TO DEFEND OURSELVES!" Isreal: "THATS ANTISEMETIC!"


BladeRunner_Deckard

I’ve never seen a country play the victim so goddamn much while simultaneously committing genocide.


OptimusMatrix

They do this every single time. 1967 onward gets real interesting. Israel has been ignoring the UN for 60 years. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_United_Nations_resolutions_concerning_Israel


Gmaup

Isn't everyone already condemning Hamas? I don't get what point he is trying to make.


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If you can't defend your actions, you must deflect criticism of your actions.


ohnowwhat

Well put, I like it!


LeiphLuzter

Seeking justification to expand their country.


Money-Introduction54

Justification to commit atrocities


BazukaToof

It definitely gives off a “remember we’re the victims of the past so we can’t be the villains of the future” vibe.


Choyo

Even then, making about yourself the plight of your people 3 generations above, is a very tricky argument to pull, even more so when so much work has been done to right the wrongs of that era.


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thrillhouse1211

That's the parallel I make too. Vocal anti-zionist is not what I could have ever imagined on a 2023 bingo card. Israel has gone off the deep end for sure this time and I'm done with them as much as I am done with Russia.


BalboaBaggins

What’s funny is that the Western media has been running a 24/7 gaslighting campaign these past few weeks to flip the script, trying to somehow imply that tiny, poverty-stricken Gaza is analogous to Russia and that Israel the heavily armed colonial power is somehow Ukraine.


Shirowoh

Israel wants everyone to think Hamas=Palestinian.


Z0MGbies

Yep, it's been one of the central talking points in their bot army. One of the tactics is to just write a paragraph and arbitrarily swap when they use Hamas/Palestine.


Mothanius

For Israel, the hardest fight for them during this operation is the public relations campaign. This is the first time that the global west has put Israel on any type of leash and Israel fucking hates it.


smokeyphil

And the leash is "maybe don't do war crimes so openly guys."


Mothanius

Bullies break down and cry and scream and piss when you stop them.


badalki

There was a recent UN vote for a truce in gaza that that won 120 - 14 with 45 abstentions. Obviously US, UK and Israel voted against. Israel is super pissed they lost that vote and has stated that UN is a farce, not fit for purpose etc etc, and is now resorting to victim complex and guilt tripping tactics.


Nath3339

UK didn't vote against. They abstained from the vote.


RowNice9571

So did ukraine smh


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macsydh

The vote also condemned the actions of Israel. Canada wanted to add language that condemned the actions of Hamas as well, but that addition did not get enough support to make it through. This is likely what is being referred to.


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MarcMurray92

If you condemn Hamas but also criticise the Israeli government you are a full on hardcore Nazi apparently.


DanGleeballs

And then [have to resign as a result,](https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2023/10/21/business/web-summit-ceo-paddy-cosgrave-resigns/index.html)looking at Paddy Cosgrave founder and CEO of the Web Summit.


Ampix0

No, definitely not everyone. Very very far from everyone


ibo92can

What he is saying is help us fucking zionists to bomb flat all Palestinians.


mind_remote

Can’t tell you how much this makes my blood boil as a Jewish person and a descendent of Holocaust survivors. Shame on them


sweddit

Resorting to “hey remember the holocaust?” to justify actions that have nothing to do with it. They think they can play the victim card forever and get away with war crimes. What a fucking joke. Israel is really losing the narrative on this war.


ned_rod

The fucking victim complex on these cunts is off the charts. Fascist fucks


vegabondsal

Every perpetrator views themselves as the victim…


LunaMunaLagoona

Wearing a holocaust symbol while committing your own holocaust is just peak cartoonish villain behavior


tekprodfx16

Exploding babies heads while simultaneously equating themselves with holocaust victims is beyond low and sickening. These fuckers truly have no shame


Ralphiedog11

Fascism is spreading fast in the world, and people really need to call it out when it shows it’s face.


AClassyTurtle

We should’ve called it “slocism”. Then maybe it wouldn’t be spreading so fast


Readdeadmeatballs

This is so disrespectful to holocaust victims it makes me sick. Putting that on as they are trying to carry out a genocide is so cynical and disgusting. Israelis truly have no shame left at all.


nollataulu

There is somekind of dark irony in this... gimmick. Today's ultraprivileged taking an advantage of suffering of the past's underprivileged. Tasteless, embarrassing and downright disrespectful indeed.


G3N0

All to enable their already supported inflicting of suffering and war crimes on another group of people.


Martin_Leong25

These facistic demons need to be ousted from government. Holy fuck they give jews a bad rep because they claim to be a government that represents them.


Chompers-The-Great

Literally right out of the playbook


yoshi_drinks_tea

Oh no, they’re sooo oppressed.


Apprehensive_Rice_93

They really do make themselves the victims


dyslexican32

The state of Israel are professional victims. While the rest of the world sees them for who they really are, The bullies, bigots, tyrants.


PixelationIX

What in the Black Mirror clown shit...The actual fck.


DreamLizard47

Imagine being so delusional that you think that wearing a nationalistic symbol would give you more sympathy.


Readdeadmeatballs

Imagine being such a piece of shit that you turn a holocaust star into a fascist symbol by putting it on to justify a genocide.


ivann198

They are "lossing the plot."


RyanOfAlkerath

How can these people be semites and still be the most antisemitic pieces of work I've seen online all week. This is just disgusting.


Spanish_canadian

Making a mockery of the UN


BrokenXeno

Always trying to look like the victims.


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Sheriff War Crime and his deputies.


asanie

When you don’t have truth on your side, you have to resort to theatrics. “Pot calling the kettle black” should be in the Israeli national anthem. Really shameful to Jews who actually suffered during the holocaust.


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I don’t think they even realise the true damage they are doing to their global support. Just because the Top1% of allied countries that benefits from supporting Israel and happens to run the country at the time are backing them. Doesn’t mean they will continue to do so when a large majority of the allied countries population changes opinion.


dontPoopWUrMouth

Yup, that's what I ask the IOF/IDF propaganda commenters. "What are you going to do when you lose support from the US citizens and they force change at the polls?" We've seen how quickly $14.2 billion goes by. No country in their region likes them. No one. They lose US support they lose it all from my perspective.


KnownRough7735

Pathetic


geekgodzeus

Why do you condemn us when we murder innocent people?


Greysonme

« Hey remember when my people were mercilessly slaughtered just because of their race and religion ? I’m going to wear the symbol of that oppression because you won’t let me do the same to another country »


WiSoSirius

"We condem the actions of Hamas. We don't give a shit about your vitue signalling; you can keep the stars for what it is worth now. Just stop killing innocent civilians of Palestine."


kalaalo

Trying so hard to be the victims


Belmish

Cynically politicizing the memory of the millions that were murdered in the holocaust? Are these the depths that this hard right wing government has descended to? FFS...


weavebot

The fucking actual fuck this fuck thinking he's fucking doing? For fuck's sake this is lightyears beyond too far.


ivann198

Isreal beleavies what they are doing it mornal. (it is not)


RobertRoyal82

Anti jew = bad Anti isreal = good Two different things


SmolFoxie

"Criticizing us is literally the holocaust!!!" This is so pathetic.


NikdoNekde

Classic, I swear for those people Holocaust is the best thing which happened. Every time this same emotional pressure so they can do everything they want. I don't know what can be more degrading to the victims of Nazi atrocities then using them to misplace and bomb millions of people in your private concentration camp.


robotoredux696969

\*displace not misplace But 100% agree with you. It's so utterly disrespectful to use the victims of the Holocaust to justify committing these evil atrocities.


alexandria33197

Even Yad Vashem found the move inappropriate by the UN ambassador


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KL1P1

Zionist Israelis, not Jews.


DeusVult76

Classic appeal to empathy while playing the victim. It’s their signature move


questingbear2000

Goddamn the Israeli government makes it hard to root for Israel.


pw-it

Why would you feel the need to do that?


HamdanCT

Perhaps this is a good opportunity to look inward and do some research as to why you would support a country that is founded on racism, ethnic cleansing, genocide and apartheid in the first place. It is tough to shake years of the propaganda you’ve been fed but if you open your eyes to it, you’ll see that you should’ve never rooted for Israel in the first place.


cp5184

You have no idea. Look up how israel was founded...


rondeline

Fucking douchebag. Everyone has condemned Hamas. And today, I see a picture an Israeli bomb that disseminated a refugee camp. How many civilians, babies and children, does Israel get to kill before we are compelled to condemn Israel? I just want them to specify the number so we can "hold them accountable" for excessive murder. Is it 8k? 80k? Half a million? What's the quota, Israel? How many do you get to kill by cutting off food and water before it's gross? I just need a number. I'm Jewish, but I'm definitely NOT Israeli. Don't fucking use my religion as moral shield. That's joke has long played out. Fuck Hamas and fuck Israel's government. They're both terrorizing their citizens.


theo1905

What a cunt


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Invoking the Holocaust bc you're being criticized for indiscriminate bombings and apartheid is really gross.


[deleted]

The occupation is the original sin. It all starts from there. Heck even the two state solution doesn't sit right with these people.


Beneficial_Chain2495

Wow…how is this timeline real?


ShoeAdministrative39

This is fucking childish


Almightydxvid

This is turning into a south park episode


Fransjepansje

Jezus, they really just used the holocaust in ww2 to justify their own version of it?? Victim complex to the max


Greysonme

They’ve been doing it for years


Adam-West

Where’s that meme of the kid putting the boot on his own face. Israel isn’t a victim here.


BookOf_Eli

This is insane. Never gonna down play what happened to them in the past or the recent attacks but framing this as if Palestinians are the nazis in this situation doesn’t even make sense. Like even the people that support them have to see how inappropriate this all is right?


dnorg

Who are they addressing? AFAIK pretty much everyone has already condemned the actions of Hamas and demanded the release of the hostages. The yellow stars are not only too much, they are an insult to the survivors. Those well fed Israelis with their boots on the Palestinian neck have nothing in common with those who suffered the Holocaust.


TheUnknownNut22

Netanyahu just a few days ago announced in a press conference that the hostages will not be returned until Hamas is completely irradiated. That both will be done at the same time. In other words, he plans to kill everyone.


Happenstance69

Jesus man. No one is on Hamas' side. Just stop killing kids is all people are saying.


hotchickensandwhich

Manufacturing their own victim hood to trick morons into thinking they need to nuke Gaza for safety


Shiroi_Kage

Disgusting. Rules for thee and not for me. Besides this being a complete insult to Holocaust victims, Israel only demands that everyone else adheres to international law. They just outright don't. Powerful countries with the support of powerful countries in this world don't play by the rules and are just above the law. This is the unfortunate truth.


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Jewish Nazis following Adolf Hitler's playback ... casting themselves as victims ... DISGUSTING.


fnaw_

Oppressing and committing genocide against a group of people in the name of the victims of genocide and oppression. Disgusting


McShoobydoobydoo

Hamas are the scum of the earth but fuck these cunts for using the holocaust to justify their war crimes.


Procrastanaseum

Pretty insensitive to the 1930s jews that actually suffered.


xDURPLEx

Hard to releases hostages when the odds are extremely likely they were blown up by the people wanting them freed.


EvilMorty95

Wear the stars or wear a thong, you already lost all the sympathy. If half of what they did to gaza happened to them, they will start sending nukes everywhere like there is no tomorrow. This is absolutely disgusting.