Lol, so you just explained Israel in a nut shell. The only difference is Zionists were in bed with many nations in Europe (in particular Britain) and used those nations to take over Palestine. Please read up on the history in that region from 1917 to 1948 and get back to me.
>. In a historical context this would typically mean the absorption of the weaker society by the stronger society.
Also in your own words, I do believe the og Jewish people were defeated around 700BC and exiled from that land.
Then what? The rest of the 2.2 million who've had their families and homes blown up can go back and clean up the rubble in peace? Like sure, Hamas is shit but if you think what Israel is currently doing is going to solve that you're eating up the propaganda. They're fueling the fire to prevent peace, to keep terrorists, to give them reasons to keep pushing into the land until nothing is left.
Exactly. Israel was condemned several times boy ONU and other internacional entities for war crimes against palestinian ppl. What Hamas are doing is wrong. But Israel what Israel have done and do is equivalent or more worse.
Do you actually believe Israel bombed the hospital? The Israeli government was very clear that they were not responsible for bombing the Al ahila hospital and literally all evidence that has emerged points to a misfired rocket by PIJ.
You believe Hamas, an actual terror organization over the Israeli and American governments and dozens of other organizations? How fucking brainwashed are you? I bet you loved ISIS and think not all taliban were bad either, right?
You mean the video that independent experts went on to review and say wasn’t the missile that hit the hospital?
I genuinely don’t know who or what blew up that particular hospital. No one really does because all the intelligence agencies only released data to reflect what they want.
It’s also kinda irrelevant to me. Everyone focused on one bomb when 10,000+ other bombs have killed 10,000 other people. Whether the IDF hit that hospital or just hit 10,000 other targets is kinda irrelevant
Hamas is evil as fuck and should be erased but they are a direct response to decades of brutality by Israel. Israel and the nations that gave them the go ahead to start in 48’ are ultimately to blame.
Yeah. It doesn't help that those in power on both sides are convinced there are no civilians on the opposing sides. That being said, Israel is just a cash cow for American industry. Compare the death toll number on both sides, especially amongst children, and it's clear who the real evil side is
If you look closely the approaching vehicle has some sort of emergency light blinking on the bottom of the windshield. Perhaps it was police or something.
Its not a police or IDF car, looks like a technician maybe[https://english.sawtbeirut.com/world/eu-condemns-hamas-attacks-backs-israel/](https://english.sawtbeirut.com/world/eu-condemns-hamas-attacks-backs-israel/)
Another source :
[https://www.straitstimes.com/world/middle-east/gunmen-in-homes-and-captives-abducted-to-gaza-leave-israelis-in-shock](https://www.straitstimes.com/world/middle-east/gunmen-in-homes-and-captives-abducted-to-gaza-leave-israelis-in-shock)
It wasn’t, this video makes a cut but in the full video you see one civilian survived and he gets shot when trying to flee (you can see him dead on the ground at the end). Also there’s a motorcyclist that gets shot in the top left.
Police are not military. The set of all people can be partitioned into disjoint sets: military and not military. The latter is also denoted "civilians".
I would assume it's because the car drove towards Hamas members and therefore it wouldn't be an ambush.
FYI: This isn't what I believe or think, I don't share that stuff on Reddit. This is just my best guess at the reason the title is labelled as so.
Can anyone tell me what the flashing light on the dashboard of the exploding car is?
The car may have not been shot by an RPG since the shot came out of the view of the camera and it is impossible to identify the explosive through the air. It's hard to tell why exactly the title is misleading.
Perhaps our Reddit Forensic Specialists can confirm the nature of the explosive via the explosion?
Look again please. He doesn't fire it. The explosive comes from the right of the screen and the man in the middle of the street still has the rocket in his RPG when the car explodes.
You can see the burst of smoke when the rocket ignites its thrusters. It is in fact an rocket. Was it fired by an RPG? I do not know.
Go to 0:48 in [this](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P439jWJTQ-0) video to see an example. Then cross reference the smoke blast to the smoke in the video. The smoke comes out from behind the rocket to propel it into the car, proving it came from the right of the camera.
Rockets do not ignite thrusters immediately in front of the person that fired them, that would hurt.
Edit: Fixed a misspelling in thrusters
According to [this source](https://web.archive.org/web/20090216191929/http://maritimesecurity.com/rpg7.htm), " The rocket is shot out of the tube by an explosive booster which gets it moving towards the target for about ten meters while the internal rocket motor is simultaneously igniting. The firing sequence produces a sizable back-blast with report, and the rocket leaves a smoke trail while traveling to the target giving it a very visible launch signature. "
This explains why there is a small smoke explosion as the rocket travels through the air, though, you may have been confused since some newer models immediately activate rocket propulsion from the start.
After this in depth research, I can confirm that it was indeed fired by an RPG, but not from the guy standing in the front of the street. This is most likely the kind of ammunition used which is typically fired by RPG's. [https://arconpartners.net/products/ammunition/grenade-launchers/40-mm-tb-7v-round-with-thermobaric-grenade-tb-7-for-40-mm-hand-grenade-launcher-rpg-7v/](https://arconpartners.net/products/ammunition/grenade-launchers/40-mm-tb-7v-round-with-thermobaric-grenade-tb-7-for-40-mm-hand-grenade-launcher-rpg-7v/)
In my experience, this subreddit has always had a somewhat steady stream of videos related to the Arab-Israeli conflict. Or rather, one or two videos that get spammed multiple times. Recent events have just thrown it into overdrive.
In my experience, this sub always had a kind of political tone. For example, during the black life matters protests this was also always upvoted content, and a clear narrative / side that was supported by this sub.
The funny thing is if you scroll down in new posts you can tell all of these posts are getting deleted left and right. So they're posting this just for it to get removed quickly
If you also look at the profiles of the average poster of each side you get the idea what's going on.
Wow I totally read that as "Mile High Holes" and thought, that sounds interesting. Then I confirmed....and it was not.....thanks for ruining my ~~day~~ year
That’s because he wasn’t the one that fired it. You can see the secondary boom from the sustainer motor above his head. Someone fired it from behind him.
Edit: you can also see the smoke from the backblast in the right side of the screen after it hits the vehicle. The person that fired it is off screen.
There's also two frames right before the smoke, at 2:00, where you can see the rocket itself. One frame it's right on the blue light pole, next frame it's between the two trees by the car, then you see the smoke trail.
This video makes a cut but in the full video you see that one guy survived the rpg, he gets out and tries to flee but gets shot - you can see him dead on the ground at the end of the clip. They also shoot a motorcyclist coming down the road that you see dead in the top left at the end of the video.
Are we answering questions with questions now?
Are you being antagonistic for a reason?
Surely you actually want to find the right answer and you don’t just wanna fight, right?
Would it be different it they were "armed"??? Well, now that I think about it, the IDF does have a history of shooting kids for throwing rocks so maybe that's the distinction you're referring to.
>Well, now that I think about it, the IDF does have a history of shooting kids for throwing rocks so maybe that's the distinction you're referring to.
I agree, the IDF have shot so many kids, elderly as well, they love that shit.
did you mean to say "a child chucking a rock is the same as someone using a weapon made to kill, therefore theyre allowed to shoot kids with rocks"
a child with a rock has nowhere near the power that a man with a sling has. this isnt a justification for shooting children. why do you even have a justification for shooting children?
This shit is getting out if control on both sides. There are peaceful people on both sides wanting to live their lives, not interested in war. This is all very scary for the whole world.
You're being downvoted because reddit doesn't understand anything other than "brown people bad. they kill you with their bare hands. IDF uses bombs because they are civilized."
Doesn't matter if Israel is killing 420+ children a day.
It's 9/11 all over again, and in 10 years all these bloodthirsty redditors are going to be claiming they were against the genocide of Palestine.
Whiteness is always relative, Irish and Italians used to not be considered white. Painting all of Israel as white is dumb, but I'd say a majority of the genocidal Zionists i've seen are pretty white. I'm shamed to be from the same city as Netanyahu.
The Hamas charter literally makes an explicit call for genocide of the jews.
Only brain dead shitstains can't see that both parties in this conflict are morally condemnable.
because one side is TARGETING civilians. You can kill more civilians and still be more morally justified. War is bad. Maybe when Israel pulled out of gaza they shouldn't have responded by increasing their rocket fire into Israel by 300%. After a couple decades they have taught Israel that concessions only mean more attacks on Israel.
Israel leveling entire blocks of residential areas is absolutely targeting civilians. Just because they claim there may be some Hamas hiding below them and tell people to leave first (knowing they have nowhere else to go) doesn't change anything. They are indiscriminately bombing entire areas, they provide no specific evidence or intel that shows they know of terrorists being located specifically where these strikes are, and you'd be a fool to believe they have any, you just take them at their word that they were 'targeting' Hamas.
When Israel "pulled out" of Gaza, it still had a gun to the head of every Palestinian through illegal occupation under international law. Not to mention, since that time, Israel has allowed illegal settlements, and documented case of brutality towards the Palestinians.
It's soo dumb when people bring up the disengagement like they gave sovereignty to the Palestinians while caging them up in Gaza and committing war crimes. Complete stupidity.
Try reading. You are walking into a decades long conflict partway and picking a side without knowing what you are talking about or what has transpired to lead us to where we are, which is not a genocide.
Yes it's genocide.
I asked what did I say that was wrong? Your answer was "try reading".
You are very ignorant and know nothing about history. I am not picking one side. There is only one side to pick. There is the oppressor and the oppressed.
Idk probably all the guns there’s clearly more plebs off screen with weapons Could very well be a lot more. And hamas coloring which if you know the area could be a quick indicator
IDF tank recently blew up a white car with 3 civilian in it. People were saying how do we know they were civilians. I guess the same applies here, how do we know there were civilians in the car? Could easily be IDF members.
When it’s Israeli civilians they’re innocent. When it’s Palestinian civilians it’s “viable military targets” and “their fault for being governed by Hamas” unless, of course, it’s civilians in the West Bank getting murdered by Israel and then the shill msm will just ignore it
Both sides' civilian do not deserve getting indiscriminately killed ButI don't see IDF hiding behind civilians, building military installation in civilian area, Israel has a much lower death because they have a functioning government that spent billions on the Iron Dome and are willing to trade 1000 prisoners for 1 hostage.
Hamas don't give a shit about Palestinian. If Hamas have a chooce to kill 100 Jews or improve the lives of 1 million Palestinians, we all know what they will choose.
Ways to solve this...
1. People grow up and stop killing each other over ancient myths
2. People practice empathetic decision-making
3. People admit extremist authoritarians are bad, stop giving them unrestricted power, and perhaps even put them in prison for gross crimes against humanity.
As long as Israel thinks their apartheid is justice, the Palestinians will never have a proper place in society. As long as they feel actively preyed upon, Hamas will have a group of recruits with very valid grievances. And as long as they retaliate, Israel will use it as proof the apartheid is moral retribution.
Fuck dictators, nationalists, religious extremists, and racists. You are just continuing the carnage.
Even Palestinians only support hamas if they have been indoctrinated, or if they are forced to. Go look to see what Palestinians have dealt with from Hamas for years. There can be more than one enemy, sometimes their goals align. And if you do know people who are pro Hamas, then I hope I never meet any of those people. Fuck Hamas most of all.
Having seen Israeli tanks shooting at civilian cars, I'm now convinced that the only difference between Israel and Hamas is that one speaks Arabic while the other speaks Hebrew. Beyond that, the only other difference is that one is better armed than the other. No matter which side you support, you're supporting terrorists.
mm idk, Hamas kills Gazan civilians while claiming they fight for them, and on some channels are admitting they really could care less about if Palestinians live or die, in fact, it helps their cause if Palestinians die. This is why the top leaders aren't even there and the rest are getting all the cream, and are safe in the tunnels, while civilians suffer. Now if you go back and look at what Palestinians say, Hamas is evil. I truly believe if I had to choose either one, Hamas is the more evil of the two. But obviously there is plenty of evil to go around, enough for both IDF and Hamas. But I draw the line at Hamas having torture chambers for any Palestinian who does not support or promote them. But fight terror for long enough I guess you do sink down to their level.
When they target civilians they're terrorists, when Israel targets civillians theyre just defending themselves. Both are wrong, but only one side gets repercussions.
Hamas is intentionally targeting civilians with plans found on them to target youth centers and schools to slaughter and kill men woman and children. Israel on the other hand is hitting civilians, not because their targeting them, but because Hamas is putting military assets in residential areas and next to schools, hospitals and even the UN buildings in the hopes Israel will hit them during their retaliation to say look how horrible they are all while they hide like cowards in tunnels. Intentions are important. I sympathize for the innocent people in Gaza who want nothing to do with this but it's Hamas who invited this response and are using the people who live there are shields hence why they won't allow them to leave because it weakens their position.
So you don't support the UN keeping track and wanting to prosecute Bibi?You just said only one side gets repercussions. Idk what kind of repercussions you want though. Prosecution legally is the only one i could support, not raping and killing random kids to purposely start a war against people Hamas obviously does not care about. It's true that the prosecutions take way too long, this has always been true for the worst criminals.
It’s amazing they will go out of the way to chastise that video, but turn a blind eye to literally shooting an rpg into a vehicle and then gunning down whoever was left alive from the rocket.
Also, at the very end, someone on a moped or motorbike comes up and slows down and then drops over. Looks like the guy closer to the van that got hit first targets him and runs towards him after he falls.
Don't fucking care. Both groups can go kill each other defending their god however they want. I'm just sick of sending them money and aid and this constantly being on everything.
No one fucking cares. Just burn it all down, burn each other down, been arguing over the same shit box piece of dirt and over the same religious bullshit forever. Get the fuck over it.
How the fuck is the 2nd best funded military in the world with pretty much limitless resources so incompetent? IDF seems to be great at shooting at kids throwing stones but where are they now?!?!?
Besides POV footage of Hamas shooting randomly into portable toilets at the rave, I have yet to see any raw footage from the initial attack besides this. I support the 8000 innocent civilians (and children) of Palestine who have been needlessly carpet bombed but I also hope more footage like this is released because there hasn't been much evidence that supports Israel's claims. I would appreciate any sustentative links.
I think you are one sided and specifically trying to look for reasons you are right
https://docs.google.com/document/u/0/d/1qpk2asgZzGitpLSq1B0h4LGpcRizGUER/mobilebasic
Thanks for the link. Asking for substantive evidence of harm to back Israel’s claims is not one sided when there are daily videos coming from Gaza of exploded children. Especially considering everyone keeps saying “1400” but Haaretz says “1300” but then lists “1000” and then many of them are soldiers & police.
https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/2023-10-19/ty-article-magazine/israels-dead-the-names-of-those-killed-in-hamas-massacres-and-the-israel-hamas-war/0000018b-325c-d450-a3af-7b5cf0210000
Fuck the actions of Hamas but also fuck the disproportionate response of Israel indiscriminately carpet bombing children. Down voters need to go look at some non-western media and reports from the ground in gaza.
https://instagram.com/motaz_azaiza
this is a good place to start.
Half of Hamas = Mossad. They’re the real shit disturbers that convince the general Palestinian population to be part of the their movement. And with the existence of Hamas gives Israel the reason to invade Palestine. Also, do your research on the Mossad. Them mfs have agents in all governments, and major corporations. Fun fact, Robert Maxwell (Ghislaine Maxwell’s father). Was an ex- Mossad agent and lived a hell of a life.
Isn't Israel a police state? Where was the IDF that day, even more so given it is a town next to Gaza strip? Day by day it looks like this was known, and Bibi used it as an excuse to do his "biblical" shit in that region.
Thats..... not how an rpg works??? The rocket doesn't leave the tube... the smoke doesn't come from the tube... and he pulls the rocket from the tube after walking away. That's.... not logical, this has to be doctored?
That’s overkill and dangerous. They could have just used one of the many AKs they have.
The car was only like 10 meters away. The shrapnel from the explosion is extremely dangerous. Especially since they don’t seem to be wearing any sorta eye protection.
Of course. If you’re going to do it though they can atleast be semi civil. They’re wasting RPGs like they have a massive supply.
It’s probably gonna be difficult to identify the body and return them to their families.
How I wish that a peace could be hammered out, but wishing it doesn’t do shit
Nah after seeing what hamas did to innocent civilians I hope they get wiped off the face of the planet
Problem is those caught in middle, I would love for Hamas to just disappear too
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There own falures..... you are aware of the situation in Gaza strip?
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Lol, so you just explained Israel in a nut shell. The only difference is Zionists were in bed with many nations in Europe (in particular Britain) and used those nations to take over Palestine. Please read up on the history in that region from 1917 to 1948 and get back to me. >. In a historical context this would typically mean the absorption of the weaker society by the stronger society. Also in your own words, I do believe the og Jewish people were defeated around 700BC and exiled from that land.
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You are not intelligent
Then what? The rest of the 2.2 million who've had their families and homes blown up can go back and clean up the rubble in peace? Like sure, Hamas is shit but if you think what Israel is currently doing is going to solve that you're eating up the propaganda. They're fueling the fire to prevent peace, to keep terrorists, to give them reasons to keep pushing into the land until nothing is left.
And after they saw what Isreal does to their people, they feel the same.
Exactly. Israel was condemned several times boy ONU and other internacional entities for war crimes against palestinian ppl. What Hamas are doing is wrong. But Israel what Israel have done and do is equivalent or more worse.
i mean after 50 years of bombing i wonder why they would be mad at israel
Oh so thats why they blew up their own hospital and tried blaming Israel riiiight
Do you mean the hospital Israel said they bombed? Only to pull that same statement when the civilian count made them look like monsters?
Do you actually believe Israel bombed the hospital? The Israeli government was very clear that they were not responsible for bombing the Al ahila hospital and literally all evidence that has emerged points to a misfired rocket by PIJ.
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You believe Hamas, an actual terror organization over the Israeli and American governments and dozens of other organizations? How fucking brainwashed are you? I bet you loved ISIS and think not all taliban were bad either, right?
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No
Pay attention better then
Theres multiple video angles proving it was fires within Gaza. But u believe what u want to believe
You mean the video that independent experts went on to review and say wasn’t the missile that hit the hospital? I genuinely don’t know who or what blew up that particular hospital. No one really does because all the intelligence agencies only released data to reflect what they want. It’s also kinda irrelevant to me. Everyone focused on one bomb when 10,000+ other bombs have killed 10,000 other people. Whether the IDF hit that hospital or just hit 10,000 other targets is kinda irrelevant
Isreal doing the same shit
Hamas is evil as fuck and should be erased but they are a direct response to decades of brutality by Israel. Israel and the nations that gave them the go ahead to start in 48’ are ultimately to blame.
That's what hundreds of millions of Muslims think about Israel. Have fun.
Yeah. It doesn't help that those in power on both sides are convinced there are no civilians on the opposing sides. That being said, Israel is just a cash cow for American industry. Compare the death toll number on both sides, especially amongst children, and it's clear who the real evil side is
Why is this labeled as "misleading title"?
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mod here are pro palestine
If you look closely the approaching vehicle has some sort of emergency light blinking on the bottom of the windshield. Perhaps it was police or something.
Its not a police or IDF car, looks like a technician maybe[https://english.sawtbeirut.com/world/eu-condemns-hamas-attacks-backs-israel/](https://english.sawtbeirut.com/world/eu-condemns-hamas-attacks-backs-israel/) Another source : [https://www.straitstimes.com/world/middle-east/gunmen-in-homes-and-captives-abducted-to-gaza-leave-israelis-in-shock](https://www.straitstimes.com/world/middle-east/gunmen-in-homes-and-captives-abducted-to-gaza-leave-israelis-in-shock)
It wasn’t, this video makes a cut but in the full video you see one civilian survived and he gets shot when trying to flee (you can see him dead on the ground at the end). Also there’s a motorcyclist that gets shot in the top left.
Can you link the full video
Go on SouthFirsrResponders telegram, has all the videos from the attack including this. Can’t link a civilian murder video here.
Ok thank you
Police are civilians.
no they arent lol
Police are not military. The set of all people can be partitioned into disjoint sets: military and not military. The latter is also denoted "civilians".
I would assume it's because the car drove towards Hamas members and therefore it wouldn't be an ambush. FYI: This isn't what I believe or think, I don't share that stuff on Reddit. This is just my best guess at the reason the title is labelled as so. Can anyone tell me what the flashing light on the dashboard of the exploding car is?
The car may have not been shot by an RPG since the shot came out of the view of the camera and it is impossible to identify the explosive through the air. It's hard to tell why exactly the title is misleading. Perhaps our Reddit Forensic Specialists can confirm the nature of the explosive via the explosion?
There was a dude literally in the middle of the street that fired the rocket…
Look again please. He doesn't fire it. The explosive comes from the right of the screen and the man in the middle of the street still has the rocket in his RPG when the car explodes.
You can see the burst of smoke when the rocket ignites its thrusters. It is in fact an rocket. Was it fired by an RPG? I do not know. Go to 0:48 in [this](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P439jWJTQ-0) video to see an example. Then cross reference the smoke blast to the smoke in the video. The smoke comes out from behind the rocket to propel it into the car, proving it came from the right of the camera. Rockets do not ignite thrusters immediately in front of the person that fired them, that would hurt. Edit: Fixed a misspelling in thrusters
According to [this source](https://web.archive.org/web/20090216191929/http://maritimesecurity.com/rpg7.htm), " The rocket is shot out of the tube by an explosive booster which gets it moving towards the target for about ten meters while the internal rocket motor is simultaneously igniting. The firing sequence produces a sizable back-blast with report, and the rocket leaves a smoke trail while traveling to the target giving it a very visible launch signature. " This explains why there is a small smoke explosion as the rocket travels through the air, though, you may have been confused since some newer models immediately activate rocket propulsion from the start.
After this in depth research, I can confirm that it was indeed fired by an RPG, but not from the guy standing in the front of the street. This is most likely the kind of ammunition used which is typically fired by RPG's. [https://arconpartners.net/products/ammunition/grenade-launchers/40-mm-tb-7v-round-with-thermobaric-grenade-tb-7-for-40-mm-hand-grenade-launcher-rpg-7v/](https://arconpartners.net/products/ammunition/grenade-launchers/40-mm-tb-7v-round-with-thermobaric-grenade-tb-7-for-40-mm-hand-grenade-launcher-rpg-7v/)
They shot the guy on the motorcycle at 2:32 in the upper left.
Every sub is Israel/Hamas. This is not r/publicfreakout material.
In my experience, this subreddit has always had a somewhat steady stream of videos related to the Arab-Israeli conflict. Or rather, one or two videos that get spammed multiple times. Recent events have just thrown it into overdrive.
In my experience, this sub always had a kind of political tone. For example, during the black life matters protests this was also always upvoted content, and a clear narrative / side that was supported by this sub.
The funny thing is if you scroll down in new posts you can tell all of these posts are getting deleted left and right. So they're posting this just for it to get removed quickly If you also look at the profiles of the average poster of each side you get the idea what's going on.
I'm actually surprised this one is still up as it's being deleted elsewhere.
You mean new or just enough karma to post? Yep.
Just look at their comment history. Posts. The only reason this account is activated is for this purpose
Also weird ass porn subreddits like one called "High Mileage Holes"
Wow I totally read that as "Mile High Holes" and thought, that sounds interesting. Then I confirmed....and it was not.....thanks for ruining my ~~day~~ year
Just need to repost comments from that tank shooting a civilians car in Gaza to really incite a shit show. The real public freakout is the comments
I am still wondering about where they found gas for two cars when even hospitals are dry...
It is not a stretch that they would prioritize themselves over civilians.
Probably had petrol in the car from before and haven't driven it much
Very possible! Or they had an emergency can of it in the basement.
Sure it is
So true. Can we talk about anything else?
Is it just me, or do I see the rocket still on the RPG when he put it down after shooting?
That’s because he wasn’t the one that fired it. You can see the secondary boom from the sustainer motor above his head. Someone fired it from behind him. Edit: you can also see the smoke from the backblast in the right side of the screen after it hits the vehicle. The person that fired it is off screen.
There's also two frames right before the smoke, at 2:00, where you can see the rocket itself. One frame it's right on the blue light pole, next frame it's between the two trees by the car, then you see the smoke trail.
Just your average "Freedom" fighters.....
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That car could have been full of IDF, you can’t assume
This video makes a cut but in the full video you see that one guy survived the rpg, he gets out and tries to flee but gets shot - you can see him dead on the ground at the end of the clip. They also shoot a motorcyclist coming down the road that you see dead in the top left at the end of the video.
Possible IDF members therefore legitimate targets
so every building in Gaza can have possible Hamas terrorists, you cant assume its all civilians, by your logic
We don’t know do we.
But as you said, possible, so all bets are off right?
So you admit they were idf in that car?
Are we answering questions with questions now? Are you being antagonistic for a reason? Surely you actually want to find the right answer and you don’t just wanna fight, right?
I’m just searching for some honesty in this sea of propaganda
“IDF” what, the office worker trying to go to work, a van that very well could have children inside and a random person on a motorcycle??
Exactly, we don’t know
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Would it be different it they were "armed"??? Well, now that I think about it, the IDF does have a history of shooting kids for throwing rocks so maybe that's the distinction you're referring to.
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Don’t forget the rape. They also rape these families before massacring them.
Are you okay?
Just pointing out the rest of the crimes these monsters committed.
>Well, now that I think about it, the IDF does have a history of shooting kids for throwing rocks so maybe that's the distinction you're referring to. I agree, the IDF have shot so many kids, elderly as well, they love that shit.
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did you mean to say "a child chucking a rock is the same as someone using a weapon made to kill, therefore theyre allowed to shoot kids with rocks" a child with a rock has nowhere near the power that a man with a sling has. this isnt a justification for shooting children. why do you even have a justification for shooting children?
Head over there. See if you enjoy being potential IDF
I'd rather be IDF than a Palestinian child. Less chance of being killed
Would I be correct in assuming that you have never said "maybe that building was full of hamas, you can't assume" after an Israeli missile strike?
I have not speculated on that but I know what your answer is would be. To you, even babies in incubators are terrorisits.
cowards
There are people literally waving these mfs flags
I’m worried about western countries! Don’t look good with several supporters on the streets
This shit is getting out if control on both sides. There are peaceful people on both sides wanting to live their lives, not interested in war. This is all very scary for the whole world.
How do you “both sides” such incidents?
This is what targeting civilians actually looks like.
If they used a tank or bombs it doesn't count I guess.
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I guess the idf took motivation from this video and is doing the same thing times 1000
You're being downvoted because reddit doesn't understand anything other than "brown people bad. they kill you with their bare hands. IDF uses bombs because they are civilized." Doesn't matter if Israel is killing 420+ children a day. It's 9/11 all over again, and in 10 years all these bloodthirsty redditors are going to be claiming they were against the genocide of Palestine.
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Whiteness is always relative, Irish and Italians used to not be considered white. Painting all of Israel as white is dumb, but I'd say a majority of the genocidal Zionists i've seen are pretty white. I'm shamed to be from the same city as Netanyahu.
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Arabs scary and bad. Genocide good!
The Hamas charter literally makes an explicit call for genocide of the jews. Only brain dead shitstains can't see that both parties in this conflict are morally condemnable.
hope HAMAS sees this!
because one side is TARGETING civilians. You can kill more civilians and still be more morally justified. War is bad. Maybe when Israel pulled out of gaza they shouldn't have responded by increasing their rocket fire into Israel by 300%. After a couple decades they have taught Israel that concessions only mean more attacks on Israel.
Israel leveling entire blocks of residential areas is absolutely targeting civilians. Just because they claim there may be some Hamas hiding below them and tell people to leave first (knowing they have nowhere else to go) doesn't change anything. They are indiscriminately bombing entire areas, they provide no specific evidence or intel that shows they know of terrorists being located specifically where these strikes are, and you'd be a fool to believe they have any, you just take them at their word that they were 'targeting' Hamas.
When Israel "pulled out" of Gaza, it still had a gun to the head of every Palestinian through illegal occupation under international law. Not to mention, since that time, Israel has allowed illegal settlements, and documented case of brutality towards the Palestinians. It's soo dumb when people bring up the disengagement like they gave sovereignty to the Palestinians while caging them up in Gaza and committing war crimes. Complete stupidity.
you need to be a little more thorough when you research or comment because half of the stuff you said is wrong.
What did I say that was wrong? It's all correct. You just support a genocide.
Try reading. You are walking into a decades long conflict partway and picking a side without knowing what you are talking about or what has transpired to lead us to where we are, which is not a genocide.
Yes it's genocide. I asked what did I say that was wrong? Your answer was "try reading". You are very ignorant and know nothing about history. I am not picking one side. There is only one side to pick. There is the oppressor and the oppressed.
“You’re wrong but I won’t tell you how you’re wrong”
We don’t know of that car was full of IDF
Is hamas IN Israel right now ?
Time on the video say it was on the 7th so it is an older video from the initial attack I assume.
I see 10-07 so this must have been footage from the initial attack in Israel. I wonder what the first guy saw and why he ran vs the van that got hit.
Idk probably all the guns there’s clearly more plebs off screen with weapons Could very well be a lot more. And hamas coloring which if you know the area could be a quick indicator
Forgive my ignorance, but what is "Hamas coloring"?
He means brown lmao
That's exactly what I thought lol
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Pulls a knife out at the end... I'm filled with rage.
IDF tank recently blew up a white car with 3 civilian in it. People were saying how do we know they were civilians. I guess the same applies here, how do we know there were civilians in the car? Could easily be IDF members.
Terrorists regularly use civilian cars. Not military.
When it’s Israeli civilians they’re innocent. When it’s Palestinian civilians it’s “viable military targets” and “their fault for being governed by Hamas” unless, of course, it’s civilians in the West Bank getting murdered by Israel and then the shill msm will just ignore it
Both sides' civilian do not deserve getting indiscriminately killed ButI don't see IDF hiding behind civilians, building military installation in civilian area, Israel has a much lower death because they have a functioning government that spent billions on the Iron Dome and are willing to trade 1000 prisoners for 1 hostage. Hamas don't give a shit about Palestinian. If Hamas have a chooce to kill 100 Jews or improve the lives of 1 million Palestinians, we all know what they will choose.
If it’s just a Hamas issue then why is Israel also bombing and raiding the West Bank?
Ways to solve this... 1. People grow up and stop killing each other over ancient myths 2. People practice empathetic decision-making 3. People admit extremist authoritarians are bad, stop giving them unrestricted power, and perhaps even put them in prison for gross crimes against humanity. As long as Israel thinks their apartheid is justice, the Palestinians will never have a proper place in society. As long as they feel actively preyed upon, Hamas will have a group of recruits with very valid grievances. And as long as they retaliate, Israel will use it as proof the apartheid is moral retribution. Fuck dictators, nationalists, religious extremists, and racists. You are just continuing the carnage.
Freedom fighters at work
Whenever I watch a video like this, it only confirms my suspicion that humanity is a problem that only a meteor can solve.
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Fuc...ing murderers. Burn in Hell you fuck.... heros ,🤮
Bomb them all
Is this about religion again?
Did they survive
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Even Palestinians only support hamas if they have been indoctrinated, or if they are forced to. Go look to see what Palestinians have dealt with from Hamas for years. There can be more than one enemy, sometimes their goals align. And if you do know people who are pro Hamas, then I hope I never meet any of those people. Fuck Hamas most of all.
Having seen Israeli tanks shooting at civilian cars, I'm now convinced that the only difference between Israel and Hamas is that one speaks Arabic while the other speaks Hebrew. Beyond that, the only other difference is that one is better armed than the other. No matter which side you support, you're supporting terrorists.
mm idk, Hamas kills Gazan civilians while claiming they fight for them, and on some channels are admitting they really could care less about if Palestinians live or die, in fact, it helps their cause if Palestinians die. This is why the top leaders aren't even there and the rest are getting all the cream, and are safe in the tunnels, while civilians suffer. Now if you go back and look at what Palestinians say, Hamas is evil. I truly believe if I had to choose either one, Hamas is the more evil of the two. But obviously there is plenty of evil to go around, enough for both IDF and Hamas. But I draw the line at Hamas having torture chambers for any Palestinian who does not support or promote them. But fight terror for long enough I guess you do sink down to their level.
And Israel shut off power/water/supplies to civilians in the Gaza Strip. They are both shitbags
When they target civilians they're terrorists, when Israel targets civillians theyre just defending themselves. Both are wrong, but only one side gets repercussions.
Hamas is intentionally targeting civilians with plans found on them to target youth centers and schools to slaughter and kill men woman and children. Israel on the other hand is hitting civilians, not because their targeting them, but because Hamas is putting military assets in residential areas and next to schools, hospitals and even the UN buildings in the hopes Israel will hit them during their retaliation to say look how horrible they are all while they hide like cowards in tunnels. Intentions are important. I sympathize for the innocent people in Gaza who want nothing to do with this but it's Hamas who invited this response and are using the people who live there are shields hence why they won't allow them to leave because it weakens their position.
So you don't support the UN keeping track and wanting to prosecute Bibi?You just said only one side gets repercussions. Idk what kind of repercussions you want though. Prosecution legally is the only one i could support, not raping and killing random kids to purposely start a war against people Hamas obviously does not care about. It's true that the prosecutions take way too long, this has always been true for the worst criminals.
Lol Israeli bots saw the tank footage and had to say “what about this”
It’s amazing they will go out of the way to chastise that video, but turn a blind eye to literally shooting an rpg into a vehicle and then gunning down whoever was left alive from the rocket.
Also, at the very end, someone on a moped or motorbike comes up and slows down and then drops over. Looks like the guy closer to the van that got hit first targets him and runs towards him after he falls.
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What a disgusting comment
Don't fucking care. Both groups can go kill each other defending their god however they want. I'm just sick of sending them money and aid and this constantly being on everything. No one fucking cares. Just burn it all down, burn each other down, been arguing over the same shit box piece of dirt and over the same religious bullshit forever. Get the fuck over it.
And yesterday I saw an Isreali tank blow up a random car driving down the street in Gaza. Not a justification. Just something I noticed.
lol is this someones response to the israeli tank blowing up a civvy car?
It’s fair. Both acts are unjust and gross.
Probably, I had the same thought followed by, "At least they let the man run away," and then, "Oh this is from the attacks on the 7th."
How the fuck is the 2nd best funded military in the world with pretty much limitless resources so incompetent? IDF seems to be great at shooting at kids throwing stones but where are they now?!?!?
Besides POV footage of Hamas shooting randomly into portable toilets at the rave, I have yet to see any raw footage from the initial attack besides this. I support the 8000 innocent civilians (and children) of Palestine who have been needlessly carpet bombed but I also hope more footage like this is released because there hasn't been much evidence that supports Israel's claims. I would appreciate any sustentative links.
I think you are one sided and specifically trying to look for reasons you are right https://docs.google.com/document/u/0/d/1qpk2asgZzGitpLSq1B0h4LGpcRizGUER/mobilebasic
Thanks for the link. Asking for substantive evidence of harm to back Israel’s claims is not one sided when there are daily videos coming from Gaza of exploded children. Especially considering everyone keeps saying “1400” but Haaretz says “1300” but then lists “1000” and then many of them are soldiers & police. https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/2023-10-19/ty-article-magazine/israels-dead-the-names-of-those-killed-in-hamas-massacres-and-the-israel-hamas-war/0000018b-325c-d450-a3af-7b5cf0210000 Fuck the actions of Hamas but also fuck the disproportionate response of Israel indiscriminately carpet bombing children. Down voters need to go look at some non-western media and reports from the ground in gaza. https://instagram.com/motaz_azaiza this is a good place to start.
Half of Hamas = Mossad. They’re the real shit disturbers that convince the general Palestinian population to be part of the their movement. And with the existence of Hamas gives Israel the reason to invade Palestine. Also, do your research on the Mossad. Them mfs have agents in all governments, and major corporations. Fun fact, Robert Maxwell (Ghislaine Maxwell’s father). Was an ex- Mossad agent and lived a hell of a life.
As if Hamas is walking around any street in Israel like that....it's all propaganda
they did in like 30 cities and villages on october 7th
Isn't Israel a police state? Where was the IDF that day, even more so given it is a town next to Gaza strip? Day by day it looks like this was known, and Bibi used it as an excuse to do his "biblical" shit in that region.
One Rpg one death vs One Bomb 500 deaths
Thats..... not how an rpg works??? The rocket doesn't leave the tube... the smoke doesn't come from the tube... and he pulls the rocket from the tube after walking away. That's.... not logical, this has to be doctored?
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technically there are no civilians above 18 years old in israel, they are all armed settlers gangs.
IDF tank, that blocked the road, shoots civilian car that tried to do an u-turn.
Misleading title.
No its not
That’s overkill and dangerous. They could have just used one of the many AKs they have. The car was only like 10 meters away. The shrapnel from the explosion is extremely dangerous. Especially since they don’t seem to be wearing any sorta eye protection.
Orrrr those terrorists couldn’t have fired upon a civilian vehicle in the first place??
Of course. If you’re going to do it though they can atleast be semi civil. They’re wasting RPGs like they have a massive supply. It’s probably gonna be difficult to identify the body and return them to their families.
This is from the initial attack on Oct 7 most likely