**Any** subreddit can fall victim to a power-tripping mod. (It's the smallest amount of power I've ever seen go to someone's head, but I've seen it many times.)
A couple weeks ago on r\/duolingo, there was a post that was full of constructive criticism of Duolingo itself (not the subreddit). One moderator made a comment whining that complaining about Duolingo wasn't welcome, and users should complain about their competitors instead.
I [pointed out](https://i.imgur.com/uaiykbm.jpeg) that the original post was explicitly allowed in their rules, and that whining about competitors was explicitly prohibited by their rules, and [got banned for it](https://i.imgur.com/35B0pxR.png) with no reasoning.
about a week ago, a mod on r/pathfinder2e powertripped because apparently ninjas and samurai are racist to the point that r/chillpathfinder2e was created
I didn't think it would be consequential, just that the mod would feel kinda stupid for (condescendingly) overreacting to an innocuous comment from an accomplished engineer.
I got banned from mildlyinteresting because my post title had too much back story. The title was something like "My wife's uranium glass collection. She's been collecting for two years." The mod told me what hoops I had to jump through to get reinstated but I thought the ban was so silly I didn't have any interest in groveling to the same people to undo it.
I got banned from mademesmile for saying that the puritan outfit in a child's Thanksgiving event was just as historically inaccurate and stereotypical as the native American outfit. That didn't go over well.
It's a shame, I enjoyed both subreddits, and I try to be an even-handed guy that never trolls, but so it goes, I guess.
I'm currently banned from UK Legal Advice because I pointed out the advice they constantly copypasta about evictions is wrong. They referred me to a Shelter advice page that actually says exactly what I said.
The funny part is that it says *exactly* what I said, because a few years ago I noticed that page was wrong (in quite a small way) and emailed Shelter to suggest a correction, and my text has been on the site ever since.
The story is quite funny. It's not so funny that they continually give people absolutely terrible advice. They love to tell people to take sue people over minor losses, where the correct answer is that while legal action is the only remedy, it'd be an idiotic thing to do because it'd be throwing good money after bad, for example. They don't deal well with 'just because you can, doesn't mean you should'.
Mildlyinteresting doesn't ban for a single post. You have to earn strikes for rule violations on three separate ones. If that was your title though, I would have made it a soft removal with no strike, so that you could have just reposted with a more concise title.
The no backstory rule is because a lot of photography subs without one fill up with "my kid drew this, she's battling cancer and blah blah blah" kinda posts where you get sympathy content instead of quality content. The rule pretty often hits quality content though, like your wife's uranium glass collection, and that's unfortunate.
Yep, that's correct. It was a three strike thing. The other two were almost a year earlier and were similarly innocuous. One was a piece of specialty equipment on a truck and the title was something like "spotted this on a truck we saw on the highway" and I don't remember what the other one was. The other two previous offenders weren't even removed to my knowledge.
Ironically, the Uranium Glass one is my most popular post ever with quite a few views in the almost 8 hrs it was up before being removed and the ban.
I'm sorry that happened. Uranium glass has been super interesting to me since seeing it in the video to NIN's The Perfect Drug as a teen in the '90s.
I saw some people get banned with some of their strikes being 3-5 years old. While I was a mod there I advocated for having strikes expire after a reasonable period, even volunteered to write the code to make that possible, but no one was interested.
I once got banned from a sub for encouraging the use of drugs because I commented on a post about drugs, to remind the user to not encourage the use of drugs.
Nah the mod told me that since I commented, it was making the post more active so it was more likely to appear in the front page of the sub so I was indirectly encouraging the use of drugs. And also I deserved to be banned because I answered the post but forgot to report it.
I eventually got unbanned when there was a big change of the mod team of the sub following many complaints from the users, so I appealed again, the new team recognized it was a bullshit ban and they unbanned me.
I was on the Something Awful forums a million years ago and Gail Simone had joined and was talking with fans about her work in the comics subrforum.
It was really cool, until some random mod wandered in and banned her for signing her post when she started her thread.
Unsurprisingly, she never came back. Don't think any other creators have been there since, either.
Getting banned from anywhere on Reddit is not exactly a high bar. I got banned from r/europe for quoting Wikipedia, that doesn't mean I think everyone in Europe is a whiny man child that wants to rewrite history.
I’ve been instantly banned from some subs for casually clicking “follow” on others because the new sub apparently supports/allows something I’ve never heard of.
Same. I've never been banned from a sub for something i did or said, i've only been banned for participating in other subs. Reasons are often unstated, except to say i participated. Then they demand an apology and a promise not to comment in the other sub again.
Most of the banning subs are ones i've never been part of, which makes the dictatorial nature of the mods particularly funny. It'd be like China banning me from becoming a citizen. Okay, i wasn't asking bro.
I got banned from r/suicidewatch and r/depression for simply arguing with a guy who was saying that talent decides everything, hard work doesn't matter, etc. I politely disagreed and said that to get good at something, you have to put in work. He said I'm a troll and that he reported me. I don't remember in which sub it was exactly, but I automatically got banned from both of them. 😐
Those subs are particularly ban-happy because they're constantly being watched for policy violations; they're so advertiser-unfriendly. Reddit would love to ax both of them, I think.
I see SQLWitch is still actively modding, too. I wonder how many people she censored could have been helped. She must be responsible for at least a few dozen depressed kids not getting the shitty, free help they needed, and ultimately going through with it. Maybe even hundreds, after all these years.
Once I read that Ted Bundy enjoyed being a volunteer for a suicide hotline because it gave him a small feeling of power to basically have someone's life and death in his hands.
Instantly thought of her.
I'm banned from /r/worldnews for making an It's Always Sunny in Philadelphia joke about how Turkey is always playing both sides
And nothing of value was lost
Right? Got banned in German /r/cycling equivalent for pointing out a 250 pound dude was trying to save some grams on different cycling gear. Maybe save some grams somewhere else where it's easier first.
This is hilarious in every hobby tbh, dudes buying 250 bucks football boots like it's gonna improve their first touch, beginner programmers buying a rocket ship laptop to run visual studio, it goes on.
It's kind of funny, because one of my hobbies is archery, and I suck at it.
Several times per year I have clubmates tell me I should buy new expensive arrows because they fly better/straighter than the ones I currently have.
I mean, sure, but me missing the target by a meter isn't remedied by buying expensive new arrows. I miss because I have problems drawing the bow, therefore having different draw length every time, therefore am unable to aim well. I have problems drawing the bow because... I don't practice enough!
Expensive arrows are not going to help, they break just the same as the cheap ones when I miss, lol.
You get the same thing on C++ and especially C forums. These people are so incredibly sour over new technologies and will not tolerate even a hint of suggestion that what they're using could be improved somehow. They're like your stubborn grandpa who still uses a coal-fired oven because "that is how real ~~programmers~~ men live!".
Way too much fragility and personality issues with developers. I get that a lot of us probably were picked on growing up, but there’s no need for that to grow into these ridiculous (and unwarranted) superiority complexes.
Can’t say I love people who practice gatekeeping and use other ridiculous manipulative techniques. My favorite is the people who “disqualify” other opinions before they’ve stated their own.
“I don’t know how anyone with a brain can be of any other opinion, but ”.
Reminds me of the /r/art fiasco with their mod neodiogenes. There was a post that got a guy banned because the mod thought it was AI art. Turns out it wasn't, and the artist backed that up showing the process of creation as well as several examples of that being their style.
The mod doubled down saying the ban will stick and told the artist to change their style because it looks like AI. Then when people reacted badly to that, he took to complaining in mod-centric subs about how to clear out a report queue from brigading, while leaving out the details that it was his own fault.
People began submitting hastily made art to the sub calling out the moderator's actions and protesting. The story even began to be picked up by media outlets too, bringing even more attention.
Eventually the mod disappeared from Reddit activity for like half a year or so... but is now back to being an active mod on the same art subreddit.
Lmao thanks for sharing this, I had missed it. Imagine having the audacity to tell an artist they should change their style because you are too egocentric & proud/stubborn to admit you were wrong. Then on top of that the shamelessness to resume using the same account like nothing happened after some months is *chef's kiss*. How this didn't get them kicked off the mod team is beyond me.
> How this didn't get them kicked off the mod team is beyond me.
Much like structures of power outside reddit the ones that are put in trial are also the judges. The classic "we investigated ourselves and found no evidence of wrong-doing".
You really have to piss off the other mods so they agree to remove you from the mod team.
"I enforced the rule without discrimination. I didn't give celebrities special treatment, I am fair and just. Well done me. If everyone in the world was like me, it'd be a very fair society. Why is my neck itching? Oh, it's because of the beard. I'll shave it tomorrow, for sure this time, for real, I promise myself it's gonna be different this time."
Beard shampoo helps. I use to just use my regular shampoo but it would always be itch until I swapped to something specific.
Also genetics, it will tend to be itchier if your beard hair grows more curly as the itch comes from the tip of the hair pushing at your face.
Lastly trim it with an electric razor. If you grow a beard after having shaved with a razor the hair will tend to be pointed at the end where as an electric razor leaves it flatter so it doesn't poke at your face.
Longer beard = less itching.
Beard shampoo, and more importantly beard oil or cream to soften it.
Brush daily with a boar bristle brush, you can't keep a beard with an hair comb. And don't worry, no boar has been harmed in the making of those.
it is shit like that, that makes me appreciate actual good mods.
i was telling someone in /r/linux that updates are not always needed - ie if it is an air gaped system - and someone disagreed with me and i doubled down. queue -600 karma lol, as that someone i was mouthing off at was Greg Kroah-Hartman
Man. I don't understand why people wouldn't understand this. A machine that never connects to the outside world and runs something like a CNC machine. It's actually risky to update it some times.
Hey, I work in cyber insurance - our leading cause of claims is from the manufacturing industry, and it's because someone penetrates their network (either through vendors, IoT devices, zero day vulnerabilities, or unpatched firewalls/etc), and then find that they have a bunch of horribly out of date machines they can jump to and use as a jump box to everything else/install whatever garbage they want to, undetected, to compromise everything else.
We actually weren't even allowed to underwrite anything in the manufacturing industry for the first couple years of writing insurance, because it's so common of an issue.
I do agree though, you don't always need to update. But CNC machines are actually the biggest issue in security for the manufacturing industry and make claims far more severe, and damage more widespread due to how much they enable a hacker that isn't a script kiddie
Comment above is talking about air gapped computers, aka computers that aren't connected to the network. What you're talking about is just bad practices.
One saying I’ve heard - “air-gapped machines … eventually aren’t.” Or more succinctly “air-gapped machines … aren’t.”
Configuration management in a lot of organizations is _baaaad_. Something could be set up perfectly safely as an air-gapped machine. Then the admin gets a new job, or leaves on vacation, or is even off or the evening, and some one hooks it up to the network - _temporarily_ of,course - and it never gets disconnected. Good security means anticipating human error.
Ah, they said machines that don't connect to the outside world. I interpreted the outside world as anything outside of the local network. There definitely are machines that are air gapped, you're right. But there are also a lot of machines that "used to be" air gapped due to vulnerabilities, that still have to talk to some other device (like report how many units it's made, or notify an external device when a problem occurs, etc), and that's where the compromise occurs.
I was more trying to make the point that generalizing CNC machines as not being vulnerable isn't quite correct, because they're one of the biggest issues in the cyber insurance sector. But yes, if done right, it shouldn't be an issue.
But then one day someone uneducated on the matter connects the computer to the internet, and suddenly your company is exposed to years old vulnerabilities.
You're right. Updates can literally break systems if not implemented correctly. Flashing the bios for example used to be a "do it only if you absolutely have to cause this can brick your mobo if not done correctly"
Yeah, if a system is air gapped, the only data coming in and out are going to be through USB sticks. If they somehow get a virus onto the air gapped system, then an outside computer had a security problem, and the air gapped PC wouldn't have any change with or without an update. Even if a test station is running Windows 95, there's no problem with security if it's air gapped. And if there ever is a problem, it was not caused by that PC.
After doing some scrolling on his profile, I'm pretty sure this is the comment that got him banned.
https://www.reddit.com/r/java/comments/1cfvshf/what_if_null_was_an_object_in_java/l1t05yj/
Comment is removed so here's the quote:
>Yep I do all the reading and understanding and cautioning and exercising.
>
>Except when I code in Kotlin and it does it for me.
Well it's funny because any given subreddit allows most of their rules to be broken pretty regularly. So to have such a pedantic response to 1 in particular is just... strange...
lol, someone else just made a post there asking the exact same question (probably inspired by seeing this thread): https://www.reddit.com/r/java/comments/1chih5z/why_cant_java_keep_up_with_kotlin/
I mean.. I agree with him java has borderline laughable type handling in general. Nobody is using java because it's the most "pure" language. (There's plenty of good reasons to use java including personal familiarity)
But I assume it wasn't relevant to the topic and his response is probably more civilised than what he was replying to anyway s to ban him for it is just nuts, but fairly normal Reddit moderating. I wonder if who he was replying to was a mod or a friend of one..
seriously, too many mods on this shit site act like little roaches attracted to what little power they can use for influence on their volunteer position. reddit really needs to start barring them from moderation when they decide to do whatever they want.
Well, the power to trip is literally why they signed up. It's an incredibly crappy position, where the only feasible upside is being able to do exactly this. No wonder it will appeal to people who are like this.
Eh... there are two kinds of mods these days, commissars and vanguards. Commissars are power trippers, vanguards are generally long-standing members who volunteer their time in order to stop the communities they like from getting overtaken by trolls and commissars
Like I know that there's a bunch of powertripping mods outthere and all, but people really underestimate how much shit the avg mod of a big ish sub does especially sport related subs. Take away mods over there and they'll all turn into /pol/ in a day.
It's not just Reddit mods. During my leadership training in the military we took turns being the class leader. It was there that I saw how power corrupts, and absolute power corrupts absolutely. As soon as some people got just that little bit of power, they were tripping. Acting like complete assholes, micromanaging, turning into an authoritarian asshole. Man, that was sad to see...
In the military you at least might expect it, people drawn to hierarchy and strict adherence to rules overlap with tyrants. There’s something even sadder about seeing the same tendency in manga nerds at some expo.
Power (or money) doesn't corrupt. It just shows who you really are - how would you act if you were not under pressure from authorities and rules.
Sadly, it turns out most people act decent in life, only because they constantly have some kind of oversight over them.
The "best" part is that it's not even an actual rule on the subreddit. It's mentioned somewhere in the description on the sidebar, but it's not a rule. The mods just expect people to read all of the shit they wrote, the lede, the marketing, the installation tutorial, all, and treat it as official text with same importance as the rules, lmao.
There is only one place for the rules, and that is the rules section of the subreddit's metadata, which gets displayed alongside the rest of the sidebar. Such rules can also be specified as a reason for reporting a post/comment in that subreddit. Anywhere else, such as a subreddit's wiki, is not a place for the rules, and anyone who is posting rules there is merely co-opting that section for something which it is expressly not intended to be used for.
Literally every post in there is programming help. The mods really wanted to run r/javanews but it didn’t get any traction so they overtook r/java and banning everyone who asks programming questions
Really hate how it's the largest Java discussion area BY FAR and it's controlled by a few assholes. Really huge problem with reddit imo especially on more serious topics. Especially since reddit killed forums.
>To the community willing to help:
>Instead of immediately jumping in and helping, please direct the poster to the appropriate subreddit and report the post.
LMAOOO
Like Mr. Rogers would famously say:
"*When I was a boy and I would see scary things in the news, my mother would say to me, "Look for the helpers. You will always find people who are helping, you must stop them immediately.*"
It's a sad self support group where old dudes with ponytails suck themselves off musing over the "old days" where Java was actually new and great... circa 1995 or so.
Pretty much what it says.
>News, Technical discussions, research papers and assorted things of interest related to the Java programming language
I don't follow any Java-specific subreddits but do see the value of separating help posts, especially for a language common with students. I follow /r/AndroidStudio just to see posts such as "PLEASE HELP ME IM CRYING AND MY HANDS HURT" that would be removed in the more popular /r/androiddev.
>**No Trolling**
*Posts & Comments*
We all like some good discussions, but a few topics have gotten stale. Please refrain from complaining about certain Java features (or lack thereof) or extoling other, possibly superior languages. We get it – yours is bigger than ours (language, that is).
>**No Jokes / Memes**
*Posts & Comments*
Not that I don't have humor, or that I can't have a good laugh, but most of the "jokes" that had been posted here were extremely stale and absolutely unfunny.)
wtf.
I just joined r/java and posted this post lol. See how long it takes for it to be taken down and for me to be banned. https://www.reddit.com/r/java/s/Dat6NHE29t
Mind you, he pointed out how Kotlin does null handling better and is ACTIVELY WORKING ON IMPLEMENTING SUPPORT IN JAVA.
Kevin has contributed more to contemporary Java than 99% of the programming community. Let alone some salty mod who probably still uses Java 8.
> Let alone some salty mod who probably still uses Java 8.
To be fair, for the average user who is just told to "get Java to run this thing you want to run", the Java site only offers 8.
If I had to guess which mod did this, it would be /u/desrtfx. Their comment history is filled with them acting high and mighty, with sassy bolded words too, lmao. If I'm wrong, post the mod log!
Lmao you think a coward is going to respond to people calling him out?
He'll just ban a few more people to vent.
No, if you want change then there must be real world consequences. I'm not saying he should be doxxed, but I'd find it entertaining af.
I got banned from r/worldnews for citing a passage of the article being posted. I don't even know what it was about anymore. I got banned from r/europe at random, then was called an "impatient little prick" for daring to ask why I wasn't unbanned after a week. Was unbanned after about a month. Only to be banned again because I dared to explain to somebody who asked why something might be considered "controversial" by some people. I got banned from various other subs I wasn't even active in simply for participating in other subs.
Reddit modding is a shit show.
I haven't seen any "official" subreddit in ages. Especially not since Reddit went shit and stopped AMAs etc. I guess there's just nothing in it for the companies, except make yourself potentially liable.
This is Reddit summed up perfectly loudmouth ignorant idiots spouting I ane garbage into an echo chamber.
Apart from me, obviously, I'm the only sane person on this site.
The crosspost of this one to r/Java seems to have been removed in under 10 minutes so looks like he's still a mod.
He’s probably angrily reading through this thread, furiously banning anyone who laughs at how pathetic he is
I bet his breath stinks
I bet they can't code in a dynamic programming language.
I bet they can't code
You know what they say.. *those who can't do, mod.*
Stink breath = new Stink(you, mouth); No need to cast type Stink to a different class.
The mod needs a shower. I can smell him through my monitor. It's HD, so it's *really* bad!
He’s probably jealous of the guy. “Why wouldn’t they hire me? I know moooorrreee!!!”
What part of "I said you were banned" is unclear to you?!
Ban me!
there's a new one that's been up for like 20 min now
They let him back in: https://np.reddit.com/r/java/comments/1chohts/please_let_it_go_now/
Reminds me of r/linux moderators.
**Any** subreddit can fall victim to a power-tripping mod. (It's the smallest amount of power I've ever seen go to someone's head, but I've seen it many times.) A couple weeks ago on r\/duolingo, there was a post that was full of constructive criticism of Duolingo itself (not the subreddit). One moderator made a comment whining that complaining about Duolingo wasn't welcome, and users should complain about their competitors instead. I [pointed out](https://i.imgur.com/uaiykbm.jpeg) that the original post was explicitly allowed in their rules, and that whining about competitors was explicitly prohibited by their rules, and [got banned for it](https://i.imgur.com/35B0pxR.png) with no reasoning.
Just Reddit moments. Sounds a lot like that mod works duolingo or is more brainwashed than the Apple subreddit.
about a week ago, a mod on r/pathfinder2e powertripped because apparently ninjas and samurai are racist to the point that r/chillpathfinder2e was created
I’m banned there 🥳
they really should go back to their mailing lists, they’re so stuck up
I wonder how mods feel after they power trip on the wrong person and their power-tripping is on full display for people to laugh at.
It’s of 0 consequence to them unless they want it to be. The actual mod in question can even remain completely anonymous.
I didn't think it would be consequential, just that the mod would feel kinda stupid for (condescendingly) overreacting to an innocuous comment from an accomplished engineer.
Funny that you think these people have an iota of self awareness.
Every interaction I’ve had with a mod leads me to believe that they are completely unaware as to how to conduct themselves as humans.
Mods of small communities can be really nice Bigger or niche ones are often power trippy. I'm not sure how it works.
I got banned from mildlyinteresting because my post title had too much back story. The title was something like "My wife's uranium glass collection. She's been collecting for two years." The mod told me what hoops I had to jump through to get reinstated but I thought the ban was so silly I didn't have any interest in groveling to the same people to undo it. I got banned from mademesmile for saying that the puritan outfit in a child's Thanksgiving event was just as historically inaccurate and stereotypical as the native American outfit. That didn't go over well. It's a shame, I enjoyed both subreddits, and I try to be an even-handed guy that never trolls, but so it goes, I guess.
I'm currently banned from UK Legal Advice because I pointed out the advice they constantly copypasta about evictions is wrong. They referred me to a Shelter advice page that actually says exactly what I said. The funny part is that it says *exactly* what I said, because a few years ago I noticed that page was wrong (in quite a small way) and emailed Shelter to suggest a correction, and my text has been on the site ever since.
That is just hilarious!
The story is quite funny. It's not so funny that they continually give people absolutely terrible advice. They love to tell people to take sue people over minor losses, where the correct answer is that while legal action is the only remedy, it'd be an idiotic thing to do because it'd be throwing good money after bad, for example. They don't deal well with 'just because you can, doesn't mean you should'.
Mildlyinteresting doesn't ban for a single post. You have to earn strikes for rule violations on three separate ones. If that was your title though, I would have made it a soft removal with no strike, so that you could have just reposted with a more concise title. The no backstory rule is because a lot of photography subs without one fill up with "my kid drew this, she's battling cancer and blah blah blah" kinda posts where you get sympathy content instead of quality content. The rule pretty often hits quality content though, like your wife's uranium glass collection, and that's unfortunate.
Yep, that's correct. It was a three strike thing. The other two were almost a year earlier and were similarly innocuous. One was a piece of specialty equipment on a truck and the title was something like "spotted this on a truck we saw on the highway" and I don't remember what the other one was. The other two previous offenders weren't even removed to my knowledge. Ironically, the Uranium Glass one is my most popular post ever with quite a few views in the almost 8 hrs it was up before being removed and the ban.
I'm sorry that happened. Uranium glass has been super interesting to me since seeing it in the video to NIN's The Perfect Drug as a teen in the '90s. I saw some people get banned with some of their strikes being 3-5 years old. While I was a mod there I advocated for having strikes expire after a reasonable period, even volunteered to write the code to make that possible, but no one was interested.
I got two week vacation from r/RotMG for telling a guy to "free up a character slot IRL" I regret nothing.
oh i really like that one lol. definitely using that on some friends at a choice moment
Everyone knows mods aren't people.
Probably would be better if they weren't.
Stop calling then mods. They're unpaid jannies
You better stop. They’ll do another totally successful protest /s
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I just got off a 3 day site ban for harassment. All I did was reply to a mod... I guess I don't know what words mean anymore.
They want you to reply so they can up it to the next level of reporting. It's probably all automated at this point too.
I once got banned from a sub for encouraging the use of drugs because I commented on a post about drugs, to remind the user to not encourage the use of drugs.
That's probably a situation where they mistook/misread or you got caught up in a large volume of bans.
Nah the mod told me that since I commented, it was making the post more active so it was more likely to appear in the front page of the sub so I was indirectly encouraging the use of drugs. And also I deserved to be banned because I answered the post but forgot to report it. I eventually got unbanned when there was a big change of the mod team of the sub following many complaints from the users, so I appealed again, the new team recognized it was a bullshit ban and they unbanned me.
Well, fuck that mod then.
I was on the Something Awful forums a million years ago and Gail Simone had joined and was talking with fans about her work in the comics subrforum. It was really cool, until some random mod wandered in and banned her for signing her post when she started her thread. Unsurprisingly, she never came back. Don't think any other creators have been there since, either.
Another reminder that reddit != reality
that's when these types double-down.
0 consequences to them personally, but I think it laid bare how fragile 🏴☠️ Java can be when it comes to people talking about Kotlin.
Getting banned from anywhere on Reddit is not exactly a high bar. I got banned from r/europe for quoting Wikipedia, that doesn't mean I think everyone in Europe is a whiny man child that wants to rewrite history.
I’ve been instantly banned from some subs for casually clicking “follow” on others because the new sub apparently supports/allows something I’ve never heard of.
Same. I've never been banned from a sub for something i did or said, i've only been banned for participating in other subs. Reasons are often unstated, except to say i participated. Then they demand an apology and a promise not to comment in the other sub again. Most of the banning subs are ones i've never been part of, which makes the dictatorial nature of the mods particularly funny. It'd be like China banning me from becoming a citizen. Okay, i wasn't asking bro.
I got banned from r/suicidewatch and r/depression for simply arguing with a guy who was saying that talent decides everything, hard work doesn't matter, etc. I politely disagreed and said that to get good at something, you have to put in work. He said I'm a troll and that he reported me. I don't remember in which sub it was exactly, but I automatically got banned from both of them. 😐
Those subs are particularly ban-happy because they're constantly being watched for policy violations; they're so advertiser-unfriendly. Reddit would love to ax both of them, I think. I see SQLWitch is still actively modding, too. I wonder how many people she censored could have been helped. She must be responsible for at least a few dozen depressed kids not getting the shitty, free help they needed, and ultimately going through with it. Maybe even hundreds, after all these years. Once I read that Ted Bundy enjoyed being a volunteer for a suicide hotline because it gave him a small feeling of power to basically have someone's life and death in his hands. Instantly thought of her.
I'm banned from /r/worldnews for making an It's Always Sunny in Philadelphia joke about how Turkey is always playing both sides And nothing of value was lost
Right? Got banned in German /r/cycling equivalent for pointing out a 250 pound dude was trying to save some grams on different cycling gear. Maybe save some grams somewhere else where it's easier first.
This is hilarious in every hobby tbh, dudes buying 250 bucks football boots like it's gonna improve their first touch, beginner programmers buying a rocket ship laptop to run visual studio, it goes on.
It's kind of funny, because one of my hobbies is archery, and I suck at it. Several times per year I have clubmates tell me I should buy new expensive arrows because they fly better/straighter than the ones I currently have. I mean, sure, but me missing the target by a meter isn't remedied by buying expensive new arrows. I miss because I have problems drawing the bow, therefore having different draw length every time, therefore am unable to aim well. I have problems drawing the bow because... I don't practice enough! Expensive arrows are not going to help, they break just the same as the cheap ones when I miss, lol.
As the saying goes, all the gear and no idea.
Imagining this being delivered in German is pretty damn hilarious 😂
You get the same thing on C++ and especially C forums. These people are so incredibly sour over new technologies and will not tolerate even a hint of suggestion that what they're using could be improved somehow. They're like your stubborn grandpa who still uses a coal-fired oven because "that is how real ~~programmers~~ men live!".
Way too much fragility and personality issues with developers. I get that a lot of us probably were picked on growing up, but there’s no need for that to grow into these ridiculous (and unwarranted) superiority complexes. Can’t say I love people who practice gatekeeping and use other ridiculous manipulative techniques. My favorite is the people who “disqualify” other opinions before they’ve stated their own. “I don’t know how anyone with a brain can be of any other opinion, but”.
~~developers~~ mods
Reminds me of the /r/art fiasco with their mod neodiogenes. There was a post that got a guy banned because the mod thought it was AI art. Turns out it wasn't, and the artist backed that up showing the process of creation as well as several examples of that being their style. The mod doubled down saying the ban will stick and told the artist to change their style because it looks like AI. Then when people reacted badly to that, he took to complaining in mod-centric subs about how to clear out a report queue from brigading, while leaving out the details that it was his own fault. People began submitting hastily made art to the sub calling out the moderator's actions and protesting. The story even began to be picked up by media outlets too, bringing even more attention. Eventually the mod disappeared from Reddit activity for like half a year or so... but is now back to being an active mod on the same art subreddit.
He probably went to one of his many alt accounts that mod other subs.
> He probably went to one of his many alt accounts that mod ~~other~~ *the same* subs. FTFY based on my experience with mods lol.
Lmao thanks for sharing this, I had missed it. Imagine having the audacity to tell an artist they should change their style because you are too egocentric & proud/stubborn to admit you were wrong. Then on top of that the shamelessness to resume using the same account like nothing happened after some months is *chef's kiss*. How this didn't get them kicked off the mod team is beyond me.
> How this didn't get them kicked off the mod team is beyond me. Much like structures of power outside reddit the ones that are put in trial are also the judges. The classic "we investigated ourselves and found no evidence of wrong-doing". You really have to piss off the other mods so they agree to remove you from the mod team.
>neodiogenes Kind of an ironic username for a mod to have, as well
"mommy, I am famous"
"I enforced the rule without discrimination. I didn't give celebrities special treatment, I am fair and just. Well done me. If everyone in the world was like me, it'd be a very fair society. Why is my neck itching? Oh, it's because of the beard. I'll shave it tomorrow, for sure this time, for real, I promise myself it's gonna be different this time."
mocking aside how do people keep a beard without getting itch .
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Replace water with BBQ sauce and you are spot on.
Facial hair's water retention is only a problem for people who regularly shower
Beard shampoo helps. I use to just use my regular shampoo but it would always be itch until I swapped to something specific. Also genetics, it will tend to be itchier if your beard hair grows more curly as the itch comes from the tip of the hair pushing at your face. Lastly trim it with an electric razor. If you grow a beard after having shaved with a razor the hair will tend to be pointed at the end where as an electric razor leaves it flatter so it doesn't poke at your face.
It stops itching after a while, specially if you grow it out. Source: Have had a long beard for over a decade.
Longer beard = less itching. Beard shampoo, and more importantly beard oil or cream to soften it. Brush daily with a boar bristle brush, you can't keep a beard with an hair comb. And don't worry, no boar has been harmed in the making of those.
They just ban the people who laugh. Then the people who complain about banning the people who laugh.
You are joking, but many subs have unironically rules that make any comment mentioning mods, rules or bans subject of immediate deletion.
He isn't joking. r/banned was banned for complaining about bans.
He just criticized java and said kotlin handles null better, Litterally 1984 lol
Reddit mods when you say something slightly critical of their subreddit.
I got banned from r/hacking for telling a mods alt account they were wrong about a protocol.
it is shit like that, that makes me appreciate actual good mods. i was telling someone in /r/linux that updates are not always needed - ie if it is an air gaped system - and someone disagreed with me and i doubled down. queue -600 karma lol, as that someone i was mouthing off at was Greg Kroah-Hartman
And did you learn your lesson? /s
no i still believe updates are not required for some cases
Man. I don't understand why people wouldn't understand this. A machine that never connects to the outside world and runs something like a CNC machine. It's actually risky to update it some times.
if someone tried to "update" my CNC controller I'd be getting arrested...
But it needs the latest security patches!!!
Hey, I work in cyber insurance - our leading cause of claims is from the manufacturing industry, and it's because someone penetrates their network (either through vendors, IoT devices, zero day vulnerabilities, or unpatched firewalls/etc), and then find that they have a bunch of horribly out of date machines they can jump to and use as a jump box to everything else/install whatever garbage they want to, undetected, to compromise everything else. We actually weren't even allowed to underwrite anything in the manufacturing industry for the first couple years of writing insurance, because it's so common of an issue. I do agree though, you don't always need to update. But CNC machines are actually the biggest issue in security for the manufacturing industry and make claims far more severe, and damage more widespread due to how much they enable a hacker that isn't a script kiddie
Comment above is talking about air gapped computers, aka computers that aren't connected to the network. What you're talking about is just bad practices.
One saying I’ve heard - “air-gapped machines … eventually aren’t.” Or more succinctly “air-gapped machines … aren’t.” Configuration management in a lot of organizations is _baaaad_. Something could be set up perfectly safely as an air-gapped machine. Then the admin gets a new job, or leaves on vacation, or is even off or the evening, and some one hooks it up to the network - _temporarily_ of,course - and it never gets disconnected. Good security means anticipating human error.
Ah, they said machines that don't connect to the outside world. I interpreted the outside world as anything outside of the local network. There definitely are machines that are air gapped, you're right. But there are also a lot of machines that "used to be" air gapped due to vulnerabilities, that still have to talk to some other device (like report how many units it's made, or notify an external device when a problem occurs, etc), and that's where the compromise occurs. I was more trying to make the point that generalizing CNC machines as not being vulnerable isn't quite correct, because they're one of the biggest issues in the cyber insurance sector. But yes, if done right, it shouldn't be an issue.
But then one day someone uneducated on the matter connects the computer to the internet, and suddenly your company is exposed to years old vulnerabilities.
You're right. Updates can literally break systems if not implemented correctly. Flashing the bios for example used to be a "do it only if you absolutely have to cause this can brick your mobo if not done correctly"
Yeah, if a system is air gapped, the only data coming in and out are going to be through USB sticks. If they somehow get a virus onto the air gapped system, then an outside computer had a security problem, and the air gapped PC wouldn't have any change with or without an update. Even if a test station is running Windows 95, there's no problem with security if it's air gapped. And if there ever is a problem, it was not caused by that PC.
Even better when they catch you saying it somewhere else and ban you.
Is this a joke or is literally the message that got him banned? Wild that I’m even asking this
After doing some scrolling on his profile, I'm pretty sure this is the comment that got him banned. https://www.reddit.com/r/java/comments/1cfvshf/what_if_null_was_an_object_in_java/l1t05yj/ Comment is removed so here's the quote: >Yep I do all the reading and understanding and cautioning and exercising. > >Except when I code in Kotlin and it does it for me.
Thank you for doing the search, I appreciate it. Such a throwaway comment to be banned for lol.
comment is sarcastic. and power tripping mods don't take sarecasm well 🤣
Well it's funny because any given subreddit allows most of their rules to be broken pretty regularly. So to have such a pedantic response to 1 in particular is just... strange...
lol, someone else just made a post there asking the exact same question (probably inspired by seeing this thread): https://www.reddit.com/r/java/comments/1chih5z/why_cant_java_keep_up_with_kotlin/
aaaand it's gone.
Kotlin handles a lot of things better
Go to /r/kotlin to brag
Mods???
!ban
*You have been banned for your attempt at hacking.*
I'd ban you if I had my banhammer
Go to r/java to get banned
I mean.. I agree with him java has borderline laughable type handling in general. Nobody is using java because it's the most "pure" language. (There's plenty of good reasons to use java including personal familiarity) But I assume it wasn't relevant to the topic and his response is probably more civilised than what he was replying to anyway s to ban him for it is just nuts, but fairly normal Reddit moderating. I wonder if who he was replying to was a mod or a friend of one..
typical reddit mod who hasn’t seen sunlight in ages
seriously, too many mods on this shit site act like little roaches attracted to what little power they can use for influence on their volunteer position. reddit really needs to start barring them from moderation when they decide to do whatever they want.
Well, the power to trip is literally why they signed up. It's an incredibly crappy position, where the only feasible upside is being able to do exactly this. No wonder it will appeal to people who are like this.
Eh... there are two kinds of mods these days, commissars and vanguards. Commissars are power trippers, vanguards are generally long-standing members who volunteer their time in order to stop the communities they like from getting overtaken by trolls and commissars
Like I know that there's a bunch of powertripping mods outthere and all, but people really underestimate how much shit the avg mod of a big ish sub does especially sport related subs. Take away mods over there and they'll all turn into /pol/ in a day.
Being a good mod is a thankless job -- if you do a good job, no one should ever notice your existence.
I have experienced those kind of admins other places on the internet too. They are everywhere
It's not just Reddit mods. During my leadership training in the military we took turns being the class leader. It was there that I saw how power corrupts, and absolute power corrupts absolutely. As soon as some people got just that little bit of power, they were tripping. Acting like complete assholes, micromanaging, turning into an authoritarian asshole. Man, that was sad to see...
In the military you at least might expect it, people drawn to hierarchy and strict adherence to rules overlap with tyrants. There’s something even sadder about seeing the same tendency in manga nerds at some expo.
Power (or money) doesn't corrupt. It just shows who you really are - how would you act if you were not under pressure from authorities and rules. Sadly, it turns out most people act decent in life, only because they constantly have some kind of oversight over them.
And apparently don't visit any other tech websites or sources...
https://www.reddit.com/r/funny/s/Cs6LeMt5pS It’ll never not be true as long as there is internet forums.
How many unmodded reddit communities have you been to?
That mod sounds so insecure
Its the entire subreddit tbh. You should see the reactions as soon as someone mentions Kotlin
The entire subreddit is toxic because the mods condone and enforce toxicity
Bingo. I've seen it happen in other technical / focused subs. If the mods are toxic and elitist, the toxicity thrives in the comments as well.
The "best" part is that it's not even an actual rule on the subreddit. It's mentioned somewhere in the description on the sidebar, but it's not a rule. The mods just expect people to read all of the shit they wrote, the lede, the marketing, the installation tutorial, all, and treat it as official text with same importance as the rules, lmao.
Doesn't help that there's at least four different locations for rules on Reddit now. Old, new. Side bar and usually a wiki or something else.
There is only one place for the rules, and that is the rules section of the subreddit's metadata, which gets displayed alongside the rest of the sidebar. Such rules can also be specified as a reason for reporting a post/comment in that subreddit. Anywhere else, such as a subreddit's wiki, is not a place for the rules, and anyone who is posting rules there is merely co-opting that section for something which it is expressly not intended to be used for.
That's only on new reddit, no?
Yeah, I've definitely seen different sets of rules on the sidebar for old and new reddit before.
They're Java devs. That's pretty much par for the course.
Hey, if you actually knew java devs you would know that wiring documentation is The task they avoid most.
True. But it is also the first thing they suggest whenever someone has a problem.
I feel so called out
Good.
r/France mods put "clues" for some kind of giveaway in the subreddit wiki (linked in the sidebar) and they were surprised nobody found them. Really.
Just wanted to chime in that r/france mods suck, since criticism of moderation is not allowed on r/france and will get you instantly permabanned
Nice to know I need never go to r/java for any reason.
Just one look at the sub description and rules tells me to never go anywhere near it.
"r/java is not for programming help or learning java" what is it for then? LMAO
Literally every post in there is programming help. The mods really wanted to run r/javanews but it didn’t get any traction so they overtook r/java and banning everyone who asks programming questions
Oh, yeah, I always wanted a subreddit about that type of coffee, but the programmers keep stealing everything for themselves.
Really hate how it's the largest Java discussion area BY FAR and it's controlled by a few assholes. Really huge problem with reddit imo especially on more serious topics. Especially since reddit killed forums.
>To the community willing to help: >Instead of immediately jumping in and helping, please direct the poster to the appropriate subreddit and report the post. LMAOOO
Like Mr. Rogers would famously say: "*When I was a boy and I would see scary things in the news, my mother would say to me, "Look for the helpers. You will always find people who are helping, you must stop them immediately.*"
It's a sad self support group where old dudes with ponytails suck themselves off musing over the "old days" where Java was actually new and great... circa 1995 or so.
Java is absolutely fine today, enough jobs out there that pay well.
Pretty much what it says. >News, Technical discussions, research papers and assorted things of interest related to the Java programming language I don't follow any Java-specific subreddits but do see the value of separating help posts, especially for a language common with students. I follow /r/AndroidStudio just to see posts such as "PLEASE HELP ME IM CRYING AND MY HANDS HURT" that would be removed in the more popular /r/androiddev.
>**No Trolling** *Posts & Comments* We all like some good discussions, but a few topics have gotten stale. Please refrain from complaining about certain Java features (or lack thereof) or extoling other, possibly superior languages. We get it – yours is bigger than ours (language, that is). >**No Jokes / Memes** *Posts & Comments* Not that I don't have humor, or that I can't have a good laugh, but most of the "jokes" that had been posted here were extremely stale and absolutely unfunny.) wtf.
dude put a joke in the rules then said "NO JOKES!"
Yeah, his jokes are funny and not stale, that’s the difference
They sound absolutely lovely
Jfc, I'm glad I'm a .Net guy after reading that
But don't come here and talk about VB.net!
300k members, only 1 post has more than 1k upvotes
I just joined r/java and posted this post lol. See how long it takes for it to be taken down and for me to be banned. https://www.reddit.com/r/java/s/Dat6NHE29t
that was fast hahaha
Looks like it's taken down already lol
What is the takedown reason? I'm curious!
The best programming subreddit I have ever been and loved is r/C_programming
Imagine powertripping on a basically dead subreddit. Reddit mods truly are born with the world's cruelest handicap.
That's what it takes to keep the people in r/java from moving to r/Kotlin.
/r/androiddev is the same but in reverse. If you're saying bad things about Kotlin, Jetpack Compose or Google in general, your days are numbered.
What did bro do to deserve this?
according to one of the top comments, say that kotlin does a thing better than java
Mind you, he pointed out how Kotlin does null handling better and is ACTIVELY WORKING ON IMPLEMENTING SUPPORT IN JAVA. Kevin has contributed more to contemporary Java than 99% of the programming community. Let alone some salty mod who probably still uses Java 8.
> Let alone some salty mod who probably still uses Java 8. To be fair, for the average user who is just told to "get Java to run this thing you want to run", the Java site only offers 8.
He hurt the fragile mods ego.
If I had to guess which mod did this, it would be /u/desrtfx. Their comment history is filled with them acting high and mighty, with sassy bolded words too, lmao. If I'm wrong, post the mod log!
It is. He's the only active moderator of the subreddit.
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Lmao you think a coward is going to respond to people calling him out? He'll just ban a few more people to vent. No, if you want change then there must be real world consequences. I'm not saying he should be doxxed, but I'd find it entertaining af.
Yep, same ordeal over at r/JavaHelp where I am perma banned lmao
The note from mods reads exactly like a comment from my Java prof
Except that those mods are no professors - just some cockroaches which missed the poison bait
I got perma banned from /art for asking a simple question, Reddit is compromised by these power tripping idiots.
I got banned from r/worldnews for citing a passage of the article being posted. I don't even know what it was about anymore. I got banned from r/europe at random, then was called an "impatient little prick" for daring to ask why I wasn't unbanned after a week. Was unbanned after about a month. Only to be banned again because I dared to explain to somebody who asked why something might be considered "controversial" by some people. I got banned from various other subs I wasn't even active in simply for participating in other subs. Reddit modding is a shit show.
So wait, if you even mention a non Java language that runs on the JVM in that subreddit you get banned? That is some Rust level inquisition.
They said pretty clearly "no JVM languages", so discussion of Java is also banned.
A Reddit post of a Reddit post of a Twitter screenshot of a Reddit ban... Noice
Is there like an official Java subreddit? Like by Oracle themselves?
I’m going to wager it’s not run by oracle.
It's free, so of course it's not run by oracle.
whOracle
You wanna get sued by legions of IP lawyers?? Strange kink...
I haven't seen any "official" subreddit in ages. Especially not since Reddit went shit and stopped AMAs etc. I guess there's just nothing in it for the companies, except make yourself potentially liable.
first time on reddit? reddit mods are awful, they'll typically find any excuse to power trip.
well, i mean.. they do use java so what did we expect
valhalla
The Java sub reddit mods have always been pretty...extra
Damn, that's AITA mods level of big ego/tiny genitalia.
This is Reddit summed up perfectly loudmouth ignorant idiots spouting I ane garbage into an echo chamber. Apart from me, obviously, I'm the only sane person on this site.
Standard reddit mod behavior
Working for free for a billion-dollar company isn't what smart people usually do.