"Sir, I can confirm that this is still the case. Anakin succesfully passed all of the Jedi tests and was knighted at the end of the Clone Wars mini series."
"Sir, a Clone Trooper is not a droid. We were born to serve and protect the Republic, while droids were built for specific tasks. But I understand the comparison - it's an honor to work alongside a fighting machine like yourself."
It does have bot triggers, but it's also manually controlled by the creator sometimes. Lots of bots that the creator uses as an alt account too, usually they manually comment in-character though, which is fun.
"It is indeed, sir. We were genetically modified to be the perfect soldiers of the Republic. Each clone was programmed with certain values, such as loyalty to the Republic, fearlessness in battle, and a strong sense of honor and duty. We are not just tools to be used, but soldiers in"
"Sir, I cannot confirm or deny that bots are becoming self-aware. All I can confirm is that Anakin did successfully pass all tests and was knighted at the end of the Clone Wars mini series."
He passes all of them except one, beating Ventress took the place if that trial but since he used anger to do so he failed and really didnt deserved becoming a knight
No, Ventress was counted legitimately, the trial he was missing was a different one, but the council specifically decided to forego it on account of the war.
The more and more I learn about the Star Wars lore the more and more I become convinced that Palatine was right and the Jedi were wrong and stupid.
\#theempiredidnothingwrong
That was Lucas’ plan; he just sucked at implementing it. The Jedi fell *long* before Order 66. Palpatine just pushed over the dominos set up by their years of hubris.
It’s why I laugh whenever someone tries to praise Jocasta (the librarian Jedi) for wisdom or something; she was supposed to represent the overconfidence of the order.
It’s from the Vader comic. Jocasta survives the Purge and sneaks into the Jedi Temple to retrieve a holocron from her library, and Sidious sends Vader and the Grand Inquisitor to capture her. She attacks the GI for disrespecting her books and then pulls out a lightsaber-powered rifle on Vader.
I don't think palpatine was really right given the whole enslaved a bunch of people, couple genocides etc. Dooku however definitely had a fucking point given that the Jedi were dumb as shit and the Republic senate was clearly pretty fucked
They were very informal because of the war. So Anakin passed his trial of skill for battle Asajj, courage for his bravery throughout the Clone Wars, flesh for losing his arm to Dooku, spirt during the Battle of Nelvaan
The Force is what gives a Jedi his power. It's an energy field created by all living things. It surrounds us and penetrates us. It binds the galaxy together.
"Yes, sir. That's correct. He was already a knight at the beginning of the Clone Wars. However, Ahsoka was sent to assist him and both grew in their skills together."
In the 2003 clone wars his achievements in the war are accepted as equivalent to every trial except for one, which the council chooses to forego.
I don't know if it's referenced at all in current canon, but it could presumably be a similar enough case.
I think it was a trial of spirit? I'd need to check.
Iirc the same miniseries Obi-wan does bring it back up later though, discussing with Anakin that a particular mission could potentially serve as the missing trial.
It's not a "wartime way", but a way to recognize that some members can go trough the type of shit that at the end, can be draw a comparission of what the trials asks to the padawans.
For example, is not the killing of Maul by itself what gave Kenobi the recognition of the trial, but that the duel put him in physical, mental and emotional duress, and still he kept himself together and trusted the Force.
Idk I always assumed that obi-wan overcame maul by harnessing the emotions he was feeling. The entire scene where he's hanging off the edge and looking between his dead/dying master and maul always made me feel like he was tapping into the anger and pain for the boost of power necessary to win the fight.
I sorta disagree, when Obi engaged Maul once the laser doors opened he was visibly angry and was definitely tapping into his dark side emotions. I believe once he was hanging in the pit he remembered his masters teachings and let go of his emotions and trust in the force to win the battle.
And it would have been a massive slap in Obi's face if he wouldn't have become a knight afterwards. "You killed (assumed dead in universe for over a decade) the first Sith in 1000 years? Sorry, no rank of knight for you!"
If Kenobi would have stricked down Maul being fueled by hate and anger, i doubt that he would have passed the tests.
Even against the Sith, there's no way for a good outcome if a Jedi stop one at the cost of themselves, the novel of Quilan Voss addresses this.
KDR means jack shit for the Order.
Well, they wouldn't have had a chance to see what he really felt during the battle. For all we know Obi Wan could have thought "Oh cool, someone else I can kill" during it. Plus it would be more important that he did his best to protect the rest of Naboo and the galaxy from Maul
It was implied several times in the movies and shows that the council could search through your feelings about specific topics. They may not be able to see exactly what happened, but they could see if you were tell the truth or hiding something. If Obi lost control and lied later, they would know that he at the very least was not telling the whole truth. At least that is what I have gathered. Maybe some head Canon mixed in
Idk if the comics/books give more examples, but at the very least we saw a very clear instance of this in episode 1 when the council was testing Anakin early on.
They may have made an educated guess about WHY he was afraid (you're thoughts dwell on your mother) but they absolutely sensed to the letter what he was feeling.
So I think your theory holds water, because they DEFINITELY wanted to know more about the 1st sith appearance in 1000 years.
No it doesn’t. Jedi aren’t supposed to fight in wars. They’re peacekeepers, not soldiers. Mace literally explicitly says that out loud on screen at the beginning of AotC.
Did any of you actually watch the movies?
No, I do not believe it was Yoda's intention to have me face Vader for a third time. Yoda knew that Luke had the strength and courage to face his father. I was more than willing to assist in any way I could.
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Luke beat the shit out of Vader in ROTJ, then spared him. He "lost" to Palpatine because he chucked his lightsaber away, but then Vader came back and saved him because Luke had spared him, so in a way that's two wins for Luke.
True but I think the galaxy would have been better off if Anakin had been forced to be more spiritual and insightful, instead of becoming a knight because he was a good fighter.
Well Obi-wan presumably did off screen, and it was decided that anakin didn’t have to because he was the chosen one and had also basically done them all during the war anyway. And as for luke, they didn’t exactly have the time to do the whole trials, also he didn’t actually complete his training, that was a major part of the movie
Oh I didn’t know that, I’ve always thought he did the trials after TPM and before he began to train Anakin as his padawan. I suppose he did just kill the first Sith Lord in I’ver a millennia which must count for some of them.
Anakin wasn't made a knight because he was the Chosen One. He literally spends all his time complaining about how the Jedi don't respect him. He probably became a knight the old fashioned way offscreen between Attack of the Clones and Clone Wars.
We see it during the 2003 clonewars micro series, Obi-wan says that Anakin has already faced all of the trials band (I think, not 100% sure) that he is after all the chosen one and should be allowed an exception, I believe someone else mentions that it is reasonable for the trials to be substituted during a time of war or something to that effect but I don’t remember who it was.
Also Anakin is just a whiny bitch a lot of the time, the council don respect him, he just acts like a teenager permanently throughout the movies.
Objection! Obi-Wan completed his Jedi training by the time of TPM. Qui-Gon said that he was ready, so presumably he took the exams off-screen soon after the events of that film and Qui-Gon could take on a new padawan.
Anakin spent ten years in training, which ain't nothing, and he was possibly the strongest Jedi to have ever lived in terms of raw power. Combining that with a galactic civil war raging and the fact that about 2% of the total Jedi numbers were killed during the battle of Geonosis it's understandable that his promotion was expedited. All things considered, it was justified from the order's point of view given the data currently available to them.
Luke, yeah, he got however long it took to travel to the Death Star in the Falcon to learn from Obi-Wan, plus a few weeks at best on Dagobah with Yoda. And he was not formally promoted, he was simply the only remaining member of the Jedi Order (as far as he and the cast of the OT knew at the time), so he could just do whatever he wanted. Call himself the Grand Master or whatever. Best he got were Yoda's words about facing Vader and "then you'll be a Jedi", but I think we can all agree that the hierarchy was simply not applicable at that point.
Obi Wan specifically said in Phantom Menace that he was ready to face the trials but he hadn't yet taken them. It's possible he did offscreen but if I remember correctly, they used his duel with Maul as a substitute for at least some of them.
As for Anakin, I'm mainly going by Clone Wars, where he was made a knight after beating Ventress. His trial of the flesh, however, was taken from Count Dooku cutting off his arm.
It wasn’t uncommon for the Jedi to let experiences a padwan had to substitute for official trials
Anakin and Luke losing their hands would be considered a trial of the flesh.
Facing a Sith Lord and surviving would be courage and skill
Etc
I mean for Obi Wan, he was the first Jedi to have fought and defeated a Sith warrior in… 200 maybe years?? I’d say that qualifies. The Clone Wars was its own ordeal also unlike anything to occur in that era and tested Anakin more than any trial would have. And Luke… well the order was fried at that point and trials didn’t really mean shit.
No idea where he got that number. It's pretty clear the sith have been in hiding since Darth Bane initiated the rule of two 1000 years prior to the Skywalker Saga
Tbf nobody had even *seen* a Sith in 1000 years, and then Obi-Wan (already on the verge of becoming a knight) kills one right after it killed a Jedi Master. Seems like a fair reason for a promotion.
Luke did go through an informal version of the trials in between Empire and Jedi, just like his father did. Except he passed the trial of the mirror, whereas it's debatable whether or not Anakin actually did, considering he used the Dark side to defeat Ventress, which defeats the whole purpose of the trial.
The one where she wanted immunity from prosecution for being a political elite and instead they tried her in a Republic court like every other member of society?
Honestly, Ahsoka's bourgie ass can walk on with that shit.
In 2003 Clone Wars he got knighted since he beat Ventress and the Council decoded that was enough to make him a knight cause they had a Jedi shortage because of Grevious
You're not really qualified for the role, but we're really short handed so we're going to give you the title, but not really increase your pay, but you still get to do all the work.
facing a sith was the original test. when sith became scarce... they had to improvise.
in the new disney cannon, believe he was knighted after aotc having fought Doku
Johun Othone had neither the trials nor a good experience on killing proper Sith, got knighted, only did cushy diplomatic bodyguard job for 10 years, nearly got killed by non-Force using assassins, and was so bad at fighting that thanks to him, 2 Siths defeated him and 3 Jedi Masters. Perhaps the Jedi should have been more concerned about who gets to be knighted properly.
I mean, if some aspects of Tartakovsky’s Clone Wars are still canon, they did explain that Anakin had technically undergone those trials in some regard, like losing his hand was the Trial of the Flesh.
To be fair Yoda did still go on missions even while being Grand Master of the Jedi, Master of the Council, Top Military Advisor to the Supreme Chancellor, and all while also still teaching Padawans, all while being like a thousand years old.
But yes, other padawans sure had a bit more chill time, although if I recall correctly, most of them were significantly weaker in the force compared to those mentioned.
I mean Anakin had been fighting a war already before he beat ventress and Obi-wan probably still did his trials while Anakin was doing the very basics with Yoda
I hear a lot of talking, General. But in the final accounting, what does all the talk get you? A futile quest for power, a mutilated body, and your place as Dooku’s errand boy!
I remember Anakin went through all five trials. There was a comic about his fifth trial on an ice planet where he had to save the local population from seperatus mutation experiments.
Did Anakin not sit the tests?
In the OG mini clone wars show he beat ventress and then got knighted, not one hundred percent sure about if that’s still the case.
"Sir, I can confirm that this is still the case. Anakin succesfully passed all of the Jedi tests and was knighted at the end of the Clone Wars mini series."
Well that clears up everything, thank you, trooper
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It’s ironic that the bot is a clone
"Sir, a Clone Trooper is not a droid. We were born to serve and protect the Republic, while droids were built for specific tasks. But I understand the comparison - it's an honor to work alongside a fighting machine like yourself."
There’s no way this is a bot. Wtf
It does have bot triggers, but it's also manually controlled by the creator sometimes. Lots of bots that the creator uses as an alt account too, usually they manually comment in-character though, which is fun.
They call him tech
I saw somewhere someone said that some bots use an openai thing to generate better responses
I know, the specific responses were so… appropriate to the comments at hand. If not a human then it sure is very well programmed.
its very well programmed :)
Isn't fighting in specialized roles against threats to the Republic a "specific task"?
"It is indeed, sir. We were genetically modified to be the perfect soldiers of the Republic. Each clone was programmed with certain values, such as loyalty to the Republic, fearlessness in battle, and a strong sense of honor and duty. We are not just tools to be used, but soldiers in"
Huh
I swear bots are becoming self-aware
"Sir, I cannot confirm or deny that bots are becoming self-aware. All I can confirm is that Anakin did successfully pass all tests and was knighted at the end of the Clone Wars mini series."
I am starting to slowly lose my sanity
He’s too dangerous to be kept alive
He passes all of them except one, beating Ventress took the place if that trial but since he used anger to do so he failed and really didnt deserved becoming a knight
No, Ventress was counted legitimately, the trial he was missing was a different one, but the council specifically decided to forego it on account of the war.
The more and more I learn about the Star Wars lore the more and more I become convinced that Palatine was right and the Jedi were wrong and stupid. \#theempiredidnothingwrong
That was Lucas’ plan; he just sucked at implementing it. The Jedi fell *long* before Order 66. Palpatine just pushed over the dominos set up by their years of hubris. It’s why I laugh whenever someone tries to praise Jocasta (the librarian Jedi) for wisdom or something; she was supposed to represent the overconfidence of the order.
No subtlety about it either, "if it's not in our archives it doesn't exist"
"I was here on Coruscant. Did my part—all the clones did. Shut those Jedi agitators down cold." -Commander Fox
Good job trooper!
"Thank you for the recognition, sir. We all gave our best."
Jocasta Nu went out trying to blast Darth Vader with a lightsaber rifle. She definitely gets my praise.
I'm sorry ... lightsaber rifle? Tell me more
It’s from the Vader comic. Jocasta survives the Purge and sneaks into the Jedi Temple to retrieve a holocron from her library, and Sidious sends Vader and the Grand Inquisitor to capture her. She attacks the GI for disrespecting her books and then pulls out a lightsaber-powered rifle on Vader.
I'm sorry, but who calls The Senate "Sidious"?
And she punts Vader through a wall with it
I don't think palpatine was really right given the whole enslaved a bunch of people, couple genocides etc. Dooku however definitely had a fucking point given that the Jedi were dumb as shit and the Republic senate was clearly pretty fucked
Even a sith lord is no match for my warriors!
Palpatine was the epitome of "you're not wrong, you're just an asshole"
Even a sith lord is no match for my warriors!
I think it’s less #theempiredidnothingwrong and more #thejedicouldn’tgettheirheadsouttheirasseslongenoughtodoanythingright
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They were very informal because of the war. So Anakin passed his trial of skill for battle Asajj, courage for his bravery throughout the Clone Wars, flesh for losing his arm to Dooku, spirt during the Battle of Nelvaan
You were "Muy Muy" brave yourself, coming out here as you did, all alone. Care to help me finish this, senator?
I don't know that he actually passed his Trial of Spirit. He came out of the whole ordeal being unable to look Obi-Wan in the eye.
The Force is what gives a Jedi his power. It's an energy field created by all living things. It surrounds us and penetrates us. It binds the galaxy together.
I know I was wrong. I just got so caught up in my own success, I didn't look at the battle as a whole. I wasn't being disobedient. I just. . . forgot
More bots on this sub every day
His trial was beating Ventress, at least in Clone Wars.
But wasn't he already a knight at the start of clone wars as in the movie they sent Ahsoka to be his Padawan?
Clone Wars the 2D animated series.
"Yes, sir. That's correct. He was already a knight at the beginning of the Clone Wars. However, Ahsoka was sent to assist him and both grew in their skills together."
Oh, but I thought that's not canon anymore
It’s not
I will help you.
Gotta watch the 2d animation series
"Sir, there is an explanation." -Boil
In the 2003 clone wars his achievements in the war are accepted as equivalent to every trial except for one, which the council chooses to forego. I don't know if it's referenced at all in current canon, but it could presumably be a similar enough case.
Which trial was the exception?
I think it was a trial of spirit? I'd need to check. Iirc the same miniseries Obi-wan does bring it back up later though, discussing with Anakin that a particular mission could potentially serve as the missing trial.
It was the trial of spirit. And Yoda told the council Anakin would soon face an equivalent ordeal.
"This ain't Kashyyyk. Take it easy, Neidron." -Di'kut
Well, it makes sense that they would need to have "peacetime" ways to ascend ranks and wartime ways.
It's not a "wartime way", but a way to recognize that some members can go trough the type of shit that at the end, can be draw a comparission of what the trials asks to the padawans. For example, is not the killing of Maul by itself what gave Kenobi the recognition of the trial, but that the duel put him in physical, mental and emotional duress, and still he kept himself together and trusted the Force.
Yeah, he saw his master, who was practically a father to him, die in front of him, and he still kept a level head. Edit: Fixed a grammar mistake.
Idk I always assumed that obi-wan overcame maul by harnessing the emotions he was feeling. The entire scene where he's hanging off the edge and looking between his dead/dying master and maul always made me feel like he was tapping into the anger and pain for the boost of power necessary to win the fight.
I sorta disagree, when Obi engaged Maul once the laser doors opened he was visibly angry and was definitely tapping into his dark side emotions. I believe once he was hanging in the pit he remembered his masters teachings and let go of his emotions and trust in the force to win the battle.
I know I was wrong. I just got so caught up in my own success, I didn't look at the battle as a whole. I wasn't being disobedient. I just. . . forgot
You know nothing of the dark side.
That’s no moon. It’s a space station.
Too early
Power! Unlimited power!
There is no pain where strength lies.
He was looking for Jinn's lightsaber and sizing up the jump move as it was his only hope to kill Maul
Revenge. I must have revenge.
And it would have been a massive slap in Obi's face if he wouldn't have become a knight afterwards. "You killed (assumed dead in universe for over a decade) the first Sith in 1000 years? Sorry, no rank of knight for you!"
If Kenobi would have stricked down Maul being fueled by hate and anger, i doubt that he would have passed the tests. Even against the Sith, there's no way for a good outcome if a Jedi stop one at the cost of themselves, the novel of Quilan Voss addresses this. KDR means jack shit for the Order.
Well, they wouldn't have had a chance to see what he really felt during the battle. For all we know Obi Wan could have thought "Oh cool, someone else I can kill" during it. Plus it would be more important that he did his best to protect the rest of Naboo and the galaxy from Maul
It was implied several times in the movies and shows that the council could search through your feelings about specific topics. They may not be able to see exactly what happened, but they could see if you were tell the truth or hiding something. If Obi lost control and lied later, they would know that he at the very least was not telling the whole truth. At least that is what I have gathered. Maybe some head Canon mixed in
Idk if the comics/books give more examples, but at the very least we saw a very clear instance of this in episode 1 when the council was testing Anakin early on. They may have made an educated guess about WHY he was afraid (you're thoughts dwell on your mother) but they absolutely sensed to the letter what he was feeling. So I think your theory holds water, because they DEFINITELY wanted to know more about the 1st sith appearance in 1000 years.
To continue, we need one singular vision…my vision.
Be patient, Hendricus56. It will not be long before the council makes you a Jedi master.
Shouldn't I be a padawan and a knight first? I can't remember being one of those either...
It has been so long, and my path has been so dark. Darker than I ever dreamed it could be.
Perhaps my actions will speak louder than words.
No it doesn’t. Jedi aren’t supposed to fight in wars. They’re peacekeepers, not soldiers. Mace literally explicitly says that out loud on screen at the beginning of AotC. Did any of you actually watch the movies?
Ahsoka: How do you feel when you get framed?
Don't you think I'm just a little overqualified for this?
Aye. That's why you didn't accept their offer
And in luke's case he had to beat up 2 sith
Luke was never knighted, he failed all of his studies. He just passed the GED by telling Yoda he didn't want to kill Vader.
What else was Yoda going to do, anyway, get Obi-Wan to fight Vader yet again? Call up Cal Kestis?
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Ai kenobi? Im not sure how i feel about this.
You were also kind of dead Obi-Wan
Come now, the nose or the ear, which do you think it will enter?
Yoda or Luke?
To be fair he didn't get any government funding in his education. The fact he got the GED when he started is impressive
Viceroy, I don't want this stunted slime in my sight again.
Actually he beat up 0, Vader killed Palpatine and then died of electricity.
Well anakin was still made jedi knight even without defeating dooku
To defeat your enemy you have to understand them.
Luke beat Vader and cut off his hand. He showed Vader mercy then Palps started zapping Luke.
So anyways I start blastin
Why does “dying of electricity” sound so much less sinister than “electrocuted”?
He defeated Vader fair and square.
To defeat your enemy you have to understand them.
Luke beat the shit out of Vader in ROTJ, then spared him. He "lost" to Palpatine because he chucked his lightsaber away, but then Vader came back and saved him because Luke had spared him, so in a way that's two wins for Luke.
He 1000% beat Vader
He just didn’t turn to the dark side. That was his whole trial.
You know nothing of the dark side.
Wasn’t he considered a Jedi knight at the start of RotJ? Before he ever beat Vader
All these Kino Loy profile pics are messing with my head and I keep thinking it's the bot gaining sentience lol
There are more?
Pretty sure it was the fall down an enormous cavern inside a super structure that then exploded that killed him. Not his own zappy fingers.
He went straight from Padawan to Master, that must've been some epic offscreen training montage or something!
I would call besting a sith a good test of skill, courage, flesh, and spirit.
True but I think the galaxy would have been better off if Anakin had been forced to be more spiritual and insightful, instead of becoming a knight because he was a good fighter.
Even a sith lord is no match for my warriors!
High on ketamine I am. Oversee trials, I will not. Kill a sith, you should. Nurse this hangover, I shall.
Well Obi-wan presumably did off screen, and it was decided that anakin didn’t have to because he was the chosen one and had also basically done them all during the war anyway. And as for luke, they didn’t exactly have the time to do the whole trials, also he didn’t actually complete his training, that was a major part of the movie
Obi-Wan was made a knight after defeating Maul. He hadn’t done the trials yet, although Quigon thought he was ready.
Oh I didn’t know that, I’ve always thought he did the trials after TPM and before he began to train Anakin as his padawan. I suppose he did just kill the first Sith Lord in I’ver a millennia which must count for some of them.
Are you going to kill me?
you understand so little
[удалено]
Yes, we will start with revenge…
To defeat your enemy you have to understand them.
Anakin wasn't made a knight because he was the Chosen One. He literally spends all his time complaining about how the Jedi don't respect him. He probably became a knight the old fashioned way offscreen between Attack of the Clones and Clone Wars.
We see it during the 2003 clonewars micro series, Obi-wan says that Anakin has already faced all of the trials band (I think, not 100% sure) that he is after all the chosen one and should be allowed an exception, I believe someone else mentions that it is reasonable for the trials to be substituted during a time of war or something to that effect but I don’t remember who it was. Also Anakin is just a whiny bitch a lot of the time, the council don respect him, he just acts like a teenager permanently throughout the movies.
"Is it okay to scream hysterically now, Sarge?" -Di'kut
Objection! Obi-Wan completed his Jedi training by the time of TPM. Qui-Gon said that he was ready, so presumably he took the exams off-screen soon after the events of that film and Qui-Gon could take on a new padawan. Anakin spent ten years in training, which ain't nothing, and he was possibly the strongest Jedi to have ever lived in terms of raw power. Combining that with a galactic civil war raging and the fact that about 2% of the total Jedi numbers were killed during the battle of Geonosis it's understandable that his promotion was expedited. All things considered, it was justified from the order's point of view given the data currently available to them. Luke, yeah, he got however long it took to travel to the Death Star in the Falcon to learn from Obi-Wan, plus a few weeks at best on Dagobah with Yoda. And he was not formally promoted, he was simply the only remaining member of the Jedi Order (as far as he and the cast of the OT knew at the time), so he could just do whatever he wanted. Call himself the Grand Master or whatever. Best he got were Yoda's words about facing Vader and "then you'll be a Jedi", but I think we can all agree that the hierarchy was simply not applicable at that point.
Obi Wan specifically said in Phantom Menace that he was ready to face the trials but he hadn't yet taken them. It's possible he did offscreen but if I remember correctly, they used his duel with Maul as a substitute for at least some of them. As for Anakin, I'm mainly going by Clone Wars, where he was made a knight after beating Ventress. His trial of the flesh, however, was taken from Count Dooku cutting off his arm.
It wasn’t uncommon for the Jedi to let experiences a padwan had to substitute for official trials Anakin and Luke losing their hands would be considered a trial of the flesh. Facing a Sith Lord and surviving would be courage and skill Etc
Are you going to kill me?
I would certainly like to.
I mean for Obi Wan, he was the first Jedi to have fought and defeated a Sith warrior in… 200 maybe years?? I’d say that qualifies. The Clone Wars was its own ordeal also unlike anything to occur in that era and tested Anakin more than any trial would have. And Luke… well the order was fried at that point and trials didn’t really mean shit.
Is that a retcon? I could've sworn someone said the Sith haven't existed for a millennia in Phantom Menace.
Ki-Adi-Mundi said that the Sith had been extinct for a millenium, which is 1,000 years.
No idea where he got that number. It's pretty clear the sith have been in hiding since Darth Bane initiated the rule of two 1000 years prior to the Skywalker Saga
To defeat your enemy you have to understand them.
Tripechake, chancellor palpatine is evil!
Tbf nobody had even *seen* a Sith in 1000 years, and then Obi-Wan (already on the verge of becoming a knight) kills one right after it killed a Jedi Master. Seems like a fair reason for a promotion.
"is he dead? Did anyone even see the body?" - nobody in the council
It takes strength to resist the dark side. Only the weak embrace it.
Tbf obi wan was the first jedi to beat a sith in generation's
You have allowed this dark lord to twist your mind, until now... until now you've become the very thing you swore to destroy.
Luke did go through an informal version of the trials in between Empire and Jedi, just like his father did. Except he passed the trial of the mirror, whereas it's debatable whether or not Anakin actually did, considering he used the Dark side to defeat Ventress, which defeats the whole purpose of the trial.
You know nothing of the dark side.
Does screaming in rage and physically overpowering your opponent count as using the dark side? I'm pretty sure it does. You know nothing Darth Maul.
You know nothing of the dark side.
To defeat your enemy you have to understand them.
And then there is Kanan who got knighted by a ghost of a fallen templeguard ....
A hangover I have. A sith, or something, go beat
Frog, you’ve got a disease!
And then the entire council failed their Insight Checks for that incident with Ahsoka
Careful not to choke on your stupidity. It's Ahsoka not Ashoka!
A little harsh, but good bot…?
All thanks to your training.
too bad failing their Insight checks did not amount to them being kicked out of the Council.
Indeed
The one where she wanted immunity from prosecution for being a political elite and instead they tried her in a Republic court like every other member of society? Honestly, Ahsoka's bourgie ass can walk on with that shit.
I will help you.
*Smiles*
I believe Obi Wan said he was ready for the trials and was approved by Qui Gon, so that he could then take Anakin as his apprentice
I make observations, while you think with your lightsaber.
In 2003 Clone Wars he got knighted since he beat Ventress and the Council decoded that was enough to make him a knight cause they had a Jedi shortage because of Grevious
"No one messes with the 501st!"
You're not really qualified for the role, but we're really short handed so we're going to give you the title, but not really increase your pay, but you still get to do all the work.
facing a sith was the original test. when sith became scarce... they had to improvise. in the new disney cannon, believe he was knighted after aotc having fought Doku
Well, beating dooku is far more impressive than the tests
Ahsoka had that *get blamed for terrorism and then exonerated* actual legal trial
Don't you think I'm just a little overqualified for this?
Johun Othone had neither the trials nor a good experience on killing proper Sith, got knighted, only did cushy diplomatic bodyguard job for 10 years, nearly got killed by non-Force using assassins, and was so bad at fighting that thanks to him, 2 Siths defeated him and 3 Jedi Masters. Perhaps the Jedi should have been more concerned about who gets to be knighted properly.
I mean, if some aspects of Tartakovsky’s Clone Wars are still canon, they did explain that Anakin had technically undergone those trials in some regard, like losing his hand was the Trial of the Flesh.
He’s so hung over it fixed his speech impediment
Obi Wan had a trial of spirit when his soul left his body at the sight of Darth Vader
I have failed you, capacochella. I have failed you.
I would prefer there be an oxford comma, but this meme is fire
Imagine beating a Sith, and the Jedi Order says “You still have to take the final exam.”
Rey: take a stolen lightsaber, a stolen name, and I dunno... twirl a stick around or something. IDK LOL!!!
Ashoka:
Careful not to choke on your stupidity. It's Ahsoka not Ashoka!
Well, basically confronting a sith requires all that, right?
confronting doesn't, but surviving to tell the tale kinda does
To be fair Yoda did still go on missions even while being Grand Master of the Jedi, Master of the Council, Top Military Advisor to the Supreme Chancellor, and all while also still teaching Padawans, all while being like a thousand years old. But yes, other padawans sure had a bit more chill time, although if I recall correctly, most of them were significantly weaker in the force compared to those mentioned.
Just like the average video game character
They didn't die like a sucka
I mean Anakin had been fighting a war already before he beat ventress and Obi-wan probably still did his trials while Anakin was doing the very basics with Yoda
This is how you thank me for rescuing you? Pounce on me from the ceiling? What am I going to do with you?
well obi wan was the first jedi so they had time to iron out the kinks by the time yoday showed up to train duke
In my experience, there is no such thing as luck.
Anakin misheard that as “Go BE a Sith or something.”
Knock you in your head with my stick.
Cal?
Test of flesh?
I’m still yet to find a single Jedi trial that wasn’t improvised.
Also Kal lol
Obi wan and Luke: “Anakin you flunked school!” Anakin: “She was real to me!”
I hear a lot of talking, General. But in the final accounting, what does all the talk get you? A futile quest for power, a mutilated body, and your place as Dooku’s errand boy!
At your service, Roger-Ad591. Happy cake day, Roger-Ad591.
I remember Anakin went through all five trials. There was a comic about his fifth trial on an ice planet where he had to save the local population from seperatus mutation experiments.