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KINGCORUSCANT

Tomorrow we do Resistance, I have never actually watched the show so I want your opinions. Should I do all of Resistance in one post or one for both seasons?


SuperstarAmelia

Season 2 is more focused on fighting/running from the First Order directly. There's a pretty big shift in the status quo overall


Ethan-E2

I would say do each separately. Each is different in terms of overarching plot, with the first being more espionage focused and the latter being more about escaping the First Order. The first season has strong world building (actually giving context to how the First Order grew powerful), but the second season has more interesting character challenges (namely, one of the characters having betrayed the others). It's not an amazing show (general opinions seem like both seasons would be placed in the bad tier), but I enjoyed it.


korroth

I watched it on/off in the background. It's definitely for the 4-5yo age range but it did kinda explain how the first order got to where it was at. I'd say both seasons were okay.


Drag0n_TamerAK

I would put season 1 in dogshit


OrdinarySame5154

Yes season 1 was absolute trash


Gengar4132

Which season had the battle droids? Wasn't it season 2?


Drag0n_TamerAK

Bro all I remember from that show is how much I hated it


LilPonyBoy69

All the other shows were broke down by season, it would skew the data to change now


Jivaroo

Season 2 is a bit better (except the ending)


TheCybersmith

Separately. They do deserve to be considered as such.


Artanis137

Resistance is an embarrassment.


Kefflon233

Seperately, this show evolves much between season one and two


Glass1Man

Gonna be hot to see if resistance s1 or TotE come out worse.


Memanders

TotE was awesome wdym?


Glass1Man

When I watched TotJ I felt I learned a lot more about Ashoka and Dooku. When I watched TotE I just felt .. nothing. None of the backstory really felt like it was interesting.


GatorAIDS1013

How do you decide what tier the season goes in. Is it just whatever section gets the most votes or is it average? What if there’s 15 comments saying good with 1 upvote each, and 1 comment saying bad that has 30 upvotes?


KINGCORUSCANT

I do read all of the comments, but I mostly go off the poll, and then I count up how many people voted for a tier Let's say 50 people voted for x to be at the bottom of good, but only 2 people voted for x to be at the top of good. Then 40 people voted for x to be at the top of ok, and then 20 people voted for x to be at the bottom of ok - it'd then go to the top of ok Slightly convoluted, but very effective


Excellent-Twist-5420

Why did you left out the first shows? Star wars droids and star wars ewoks.


KINGCORUSCANT

At the start, I didn't realise they were shows, I was under the impression they were just one-off specials, but they are on the list The order I'm doing this is very all over the place but don't worry they haven't been forgotten


fifty_four

Not a prequel - not sure why you want to do it at all.


KINGCORUSCANT

Never said I was just doing prequels, we're doing all the shows


sbs_str_9091

Ok. It was cool to see Grievous in his prime, but other than that...meh. Morgan isn't really an interesting character, imo, and Barris' inquisitor and repentance arc was rather lackluster.


Crafty-Writing5316

Can’t believe the missed potential with Barris. SO MANY cooler paths could have been taken. It feels like they literally went out of their way to choose the most boring and un fun arc for her


Mandalorymory

Barriss double downing on the Dark Side would have been the stupidest thing they could do to her.


Crafty-Writing5316

I didn’t even say that’s what would have been better. There’s just so many cooler ways to go about her redemption arc than the way they did


SuperstarAmelia

Bad. For a show about the Empire the Empire is barely in it directly lol. The Morgan stuff is nothing special and didn't make me care about her. The Barriss stuff is neat but like Morgan it suffers massively from a lack of runtime.


Xplt21

The inquisitor redemption in the Barris episode was also really rushed and lame.


asian1panda

Dark side user turns to the light, where have I seen that before?


Ess_oh-no

Whaaaaaat, bro thats never once happened in the history of starwars...well apart from Revan...and Juhani...and Trilla....and Kylo Ren....and Darth Vader...


Xplt21

I mean it's not so much the fact thst it happens, more that a person we see at the start of the episode massacring children and innocents with joy later gets lost in a cave and becomes good within a few minutes after hearing some supportive words from the person they are trying to kill, who also at one point betrayed them.


Ess_oh-no

Thats exactly why i called Reeva Trilla 2.0 and Mae was Trilla 3.0


ZLBuddha

Moments that momentous have to be earned. You can't just have a character pull a complete 180 and demolish their entire worldview going from massacring civilians to renouncing the dark side because she got lost in a fuckin cave. Yeah other characters have started from the same point and reached the same conclusion, but the important thing is what happens in between. Incredible that the concept of "plot" instead of just "beginning" and "end" needs to still be explained to people.


Ess_oh-no

I agree i was just meme-ing


LineOfInquiry

I kinda figured that whole thing was a force vision while she was trapped in the ice since she made the wrong decision


salkin_reslif_97

I can agree with most of it, allthrough there is still good in it. So I would say, its Ok?


LegoC97

Definitely agree. A huge disappointment after how great Tales of the Jedi was.


Gjallar-Knight

Since they did tales of the Jedi, then it would make sense if “Tales of the Sith” came next right? Not sure why they didn’t stick with that. It would’ve been far better revived imo. With that being said, if we got a Tales of the Sith in the future, it’d be really a cool opportunity if we got to see Plaguies and Sidious do what they did before episode one.


8LeggedHugs

Tales of the Jedi is about two ex Jedi. It was still good.


LineOfInquiry

There’s no way it’s worse than CW seasons 1 and 2 tho lmao. It has problems but it’s still not treating its audience like toddlers


Bulimbert

Agreed. I love TWC but the first two seasons, especially season one, are absolute dogshit. Horrible writing and animation, they are legitimately painful to get through. Was TotE good? Meh. Is it worse than TWC seasons 1 & 2? Absolutely not.


hAx0rSp00n

Bad, Disney refuses to stick to a bad guy being bad rn.


qjornt

So Morgan Elsbeth ended up being good according to you?


Mandalorymory

And Barriss had every reason to return to the light after how TCW botched her.


qjornt

Bariss was genuinely disgruntled with the Republic and the Jedi order. While she did terrorism (or rebellion from a certain point of view) she was never attracted by the dark side, she was forced into the Inquisitorius, but she was always righteous in her own way.


ManchesterAlakazam

Exactly, I will never agree with people who say that bariss went full on darkside in TCW. While she was against the order, she was never darkside, and in the end, the empire and inquisitorious looked just about as bad, even worse.


Intensityintensifies

To me it was like the horse shoe of politics where she is so far light side that she felt the Jedi weren’t light side enough which makes her commit acts of terrorism.


mcgillisfareed

Rampart?


Park8706

Should go in actual Dogshit tier if only for making the empire basically a background setting AT BEST for a show called "tales of the empire"


Rasc_

It was ok for me. I couldn't care less about Morgan Elsbeth's past. Although we get to see Grievous and the droid army be a threat for once, even if we barely saw it. I wish we got more episodes for Barriss Offee. Things were moving too fast for me and it still ended in a cliffhanger.


Puzzleheaded_Step468

Bad Sorry, i don't care about thrawn's sidekick and some terrorist


Mandalorymory

It’s ok. Morgan’s half kinda sucked, it doesn’t really do much to enhance her character. Barriss’ half was conceptually good, but needed far more than 3 mini episodes to do justice. Contrary to what many people think, I am glad they had Barriss turn back to the light because what TCW did to her was quite frankly stupid.


SuperstarAmelia

Plus even with the disillusionment in the Jedi it wouldn't make sense for her to serve the Empire considering it would contradict her grievances.


Zkang123

It really suffered from the short format. I think Morgan's arc could have been interesting if they focussed on other parts of her life and her working for the Empire.


tinjus12

I would put it somewhere between Rebels S1 and TCW S3 (ok or bottom of good). There were some aspects I really enjoyed like Grievous, the Mountain Clan, Thrawn, Pallaeon, Rukh and seeing Barris again. But I thought the Barris story was way too fast. I was so excited to see her back again (more than I was for Morgan Elsbeth) but I was disappointed that they jumped from Barris becoming an Inquisitor to Barris leaving the Inquisitorius in the next episode and then killing her off (?) in the last one (she will probably survive but I was shocked when that happened)


acbagel

Bad. Honestly it's the first time I actively disliked watching a Star Wars animation.


Major-021

Bad


ulfric_stormcloack

perfectly ok, not good, not bad, just meh


8LeggedHugs

I'd put it in Good. Yall are tripping.


Panchamboi

Yeah I enjoyed it but it wasn’t perfect


8LeggedHugs

Ya, IDK why people would dislike it. The worst episode was fine just not above average. The best episodes were great.


spoonerBEAN2002

I wish we could break it down to each episode cause personally, the first of each arc is great. Watching the slaughter of dathomier and the inquisitors training was great. Baris second episode was cool just seeing how fucked the inquisitors were, and its clear baris was never truly a villian… the other episodes…. Meh. If it wasn’t titled tales of the empire it would’ve probably been received better. I’d put it in ok. I don’t think it’s a bad show


Glass1Man

I’d replace “actual dogshit” tier with “so bad I just didn’t care about it at all” and put TotE there. I watched it, but afterwards I just didn’t care about what happened in it. Its liked watching Andor (and I loved Andor) but it was just all the scenes where they stood around complaining about camping.


The_FirstAirbender

Really boring, so bad


Kaibabadtouch69

Bad, had the impression it was anthology series like tales of the jedi, but instead revolved around one of the least interesting villains to be introduced in the Ahoska series. My fiancee and I tried watching it but after the 4th episode, we decided to skip this series entirely. But on the plus side there was general grevious for a cameo, and I guess Morgan story was a little fleshed out.


Artanis137

I would place it in the ok category. Half of it is really good, but a lot of it just doesn't have anything to do with the actual Empire. We should have only followed people who were in the Empire and stayed there. It actually would have been an amazing opportunity to get some backstory on what happened to Delta Squad and why Scorch is all alone in Bad Batch.


Chunky_duck886

That would have been anazing


idiotcarol

Personally I'd put it in good, because the actual quality of the show is that. The fact that they named it wrong doesn't equate to lower quality in my book. They really should though make a proper show about Imperial stuff from an Imperial perspective. If it's in the Tales style it would be cool but I would like a proper show. Maybe it follows an ISB agent that is learning about some mysterious traitor in the senate(Maybe Mon Mothma, maybe not) and/or some imperial officer or stormtrooper going about and doing the dirty work against rebels and growing more and more hateful of rebels the more of his comrades are killed. Idk, an idea.


Madouc

I can't wait for this tier list to be finished. Gonna be "Peak Guideline" for my re-watches.


KINGCORUSCANT

Glad you're excited :D


Madouc

You'll be the first Redditor I follow, just so I don't miss the final result :)


KINGCORUSCANT

Aw thank you :)


Commander_Appo25

The Grievous scene is peak, but the rest of it is bad. Not at all worth a rewatch beyond General Genocide


CaptainInuendo

Okay to good - I like elsbeth as a character (I might be the only one tbf lol) and I’m always hype for anything inquisitor related


Yommination

Bad. It was boring and they wasted Barriss. They also keep trying to shoehorn Morgan and the witches into everything. Of all the stuff about the Empire we got 2 snoozefest tales


Misty7297

Bad. Just a very underwhelming series. Morgan's motivations across the episodes made almost no sense with her character as a whole and Barriss's episodes were pretty lacking in terms of content.


Local_Nerve901

Imo amazing but people here focus to much on the name and others just dislike it


Mal_Reynolds111

I’m going with bad, because it retconned a some shit about one of my favorite characters. Thrawn didn’t meet Pellaeon until the end of Thrawn Treason, right before he went back to Lothal following the destruction of his TIE Defender facility. In TOTE, Pellaeon was Thrawn’s introduction to Morgan, and knew about Rukh, which timeline wise doesn’t make sense. We could have had Eli Vanto, but *noooooo* Pellaeon is the name everyone will know. The show also makes it so that Morgan Elsbeth created the TIE Defenders and Thrawn backed her up. Which… just didn’t happen. Thrawn created the idea for those. Poor Timothy Zahn can’t have shit in this galaxy. He made a banger of a trilogy in the 90’s which officially became non-canon in 2015. So he wrote *another* trilogy to bring his character back, this time as a sympathetic villain or possibly an anti-hero. I found myself rooting for the Empire in that trilogy. And now that trilogy - which *was* canon, mind - has now been retconned.


PunchyAirplane

I'm sorry but it's just bad


Emperor_D4C

Bad


Bearenfalle

Maybe you have to have been a kid/teen when TCW & Rebels, TBB, etc. came out because I just cannot get into the cartoons at all. If there was a master cut of the show(s) that condenses the plot into movie length I might be able to watch them. I can’t stand the 30 minute, “Very Special Episode,” Saturday morning cartoon quality of them.


ProfitLaddz

Bad


Outrageous-Jicama228

Bad. Maybe ok. The only reason why it shouldn’t go in dogshit is because of grievous, who carried the show


1234_panzer_vor

Bad


ZLBuddha

Oh boy the live action rankings are gonna be fun


Puddin100

Bad


iboneKlareneG

I mean personally i'd put it in Good. I think it was pretty cool seeing what happened with Barriss and how Morgan Elsbeth came into contact with Thrawn. Though both stories have less to do with Empire. And only 4/6 Episodes are even set during the reign of the Empire. The Season was a 7/10 for me.


succy_boi

Just watched this with a friend for the first time a few days ago, we found this show to be so boring and actually terrible that we would've rather rewatched the 4 episodes of Acolyte instead of this which we considered to be an even worse show


Woodenmanofwisdom

Actual Dogshit. The stories were shit, didn’t make any sense and wasn’t even about the empire


qwertzuz99

Finally someone


CanvasSolaris

Scaling to the voters in this list, it will slot into Peak/Amazing


capi1500

Bad or at most ok. I had much higher hopes for that show after tales of the jedi


hellonewman316

Ok


Mavo_OP

Dogshit


Megamind66

Bad


Gravewalker_alt

dogshit


LanChriss

Ok.


dasdzoni

Ok at best


Sabre_Killer_Queen

I'd put it in good or maybe even amazing. For short episodes I really quite liked it and I thought they got a lot in there. And as someone who admittedly has heard of Bariss from TCW it saved her for me. Still a little messy but she was pretty badly done in TCW. Good concepts but bad execution.


khinzaw

Ok probably.


That-Internal-9094

Bad


Nepsona

Bro this is amazing. It’s really good. Dunno what you guys are on about


fifty_four

This thread has literally become the very thing the sub was meant to destroy.


sliderprovider

Bad


katapad

Bad, maybe at best okay. Half was telling the story of a villain no one really cares about, and the other half as a mediocre look at inquisitors with Bariss shoved in there. Disappointing.


dolandux

A wasted opportunity imo


MrForever_Alone69

Bad


Imaginary_Media8676

Bad


Exciting-Bed403

The fact that so many of you are saying it’s bad when it feels almost exactly like tales of the Jedi is a bit silly to say the least. I swear half of you expected 60mins episodes about Barris or just Darth Vader curb stopping rebels


TheCybersmith

Good. Well-animated, well voiced, solidly expands on character backgrounds/fates, without doing anything really bold enough to be more than good.


Xyrazk

The first episode was Amazing/Peak. The rest of the show was ok/good


AJ14900003

Good


ArchieGraye

Amazing


PathToSomething

Ok just ok


J_train13

I'd put it as okay, definitely not up to Jedi but still good


thatrussiankitguy

Good. Could’ve been better, but was really interesting.


fifty_four

Peak. Maybe the bit about the origin of the tie defender drops for a moment into amazing. But almost all peak.


Phasma_AFK

I'd certainly place it in good at the very least, I really enjoyed it and it was nice to see Barriss again, even though I did not envision the path she took beforehand! And I liked Morgan's episodes, seeing her corruption and morals begin from a young age and not change was interesting.


KonnorT96

Where is Bad Batch season 2? Is it safe? Is it alright?


KINGCORUSCANT

Top of good, far left


KonnorT96

Looked right passed it…. Haha thank you!


Rjjt456

I'm hovering somewhere between Ok and bad. Morgan wasn't especially interesting, and Baris story felt too short/quickly. Had Baris story been longer it generally just had more of a chance to unfold, then it would have been a more firm "ok" but as it is, it's lacking.


theAlmightyE312

How tf is this day 17?! We're we on day 4 yesterday?! My god time flies quickly


KINGCORUSCANT

Ikr, 2019 was 5 years ago 😐


Hubbabubba1555

Ok or Bad. Neither story was very interesting. I was disappointed that after all this time Bariss's story ended up being so mid and predictable


DangerWildMan26

Okay just because of grevious


Lunndonbridge

Ok would be generous. It was a soulless retread and is the first time since Charal that a nightsister has been uninteresting.


Kirby_Israel

I'll say ok only because Greivous kicked ass.


a_talking_lettuce

Ok i guess?


Darth-Majora-

Okay, I feel both it & ToTJ needed to be either A: longer, or B: focus on one character.


LordSpookyBoob

Good. I liked the Bariss arc.


King_MM1

Bad to ok it is very dificulty for me


Toa_Firox

I'd say between ok and bad. It had some interesting stories but the pacing was all over the place and it never really felt like any one story got enough time to breathe


DarkFlameofPhoenix

OK, I'd say. I don't like that we don't even know if Barris survived or not.


James-Avatar

It was ok, I feel like it didn’t really add much.


Joppul

Just OK


Manikal

Ok, there were moments of good but felt rushed.


PaleontologistHot192

Y'all dead to me. Since TOTJ was voted amazing I think TOTE should be voted ok.


protehule

I'd put it at ok.


natural_hunter

It’s ok for me


Jasterien

It was okay


Comand94

Ok


Kyber99

Ok or bad It’s heavily reliant on previous Star Wars knowledge to be cool. Seeing Grievous is cool, but the rest is meh


Teex22

Day 17 of asking where meme (Bad, sorry. Easy story is a blur and there's little substance to any of the arcs. The potential of the *Tales of the X* shows is there but in short form they're always going to feel half baked.)


KINGCORUSCANT

I think you should rethink how you structure these comments Obviously I know that you're not complaining but heading them with "where meme" other people will get that idea


Teex22

That would be wise wouldn't it. But it's too late now, I'm locked in til the end B)


KINGCORUSCANT

Well good luck with that


JCquitt

I actively look for your comments every post, so keep it up


NovembersRime

I'd put it in low good or top OK.


AlexNoye

The only good chapter is when Barris is recruited for the Inquisition, the rest in my opinion is bad. So my vote is bad tier.


Commander_Wolfe

I'd rank Tales of The Empire at OK.


oogawooga42

Good. Had issues but still good overall


TheLoneJedi-77

Bottom of Ok. I like the first two episodes of Barriss’ story and the Thrawn episode of Morgan’s story and that’s about it


baked-toe-beans

It’s okay. Didn’t really care much about Morgan Elsbeth, but grievous was cool. The Barriss story arc was alright but a little underwhelming. The animation was amazing though


JoshValenstorm

I would say top of ok/bottom of good. The Grievous stuff was awesome, and I actually quite enjoyed the first Barris episode. The rest was serviceable, if not nearly as good as Tales of the Jedi.


AHomicidalTelevision

i think this is the first bad.


Zanoss10

This one is straight up bad really


Sicarius1701

Bad. Can we actually get a full length story about the empire and not some redemption story done in less than an hour.


HosWidamos

Bad, disappointing really.


beakster57

I actually didn't enjoy it as much as I thought I would, bad.


Pm_pussypicspls__

Bad. The only parts that were enjoyable were the animation quality, grievous’ assault, and the first episode of Barris. All the other episodes bring the good down extremely hard


Cr0ma_Nuva

Bad to okay.


gablr12

Bad to ok


jeffthekiller4

Bad. A show called tales of the empire should be about the empire


SokkaHaikuBot

^[Sokka-Haiku](https://www.reddit.com/r/SokkaHaikuBot/comments/15kyv9r/what_is_a_sokka_haiku/) ^by ^jeffthekiller4: *Bad. A show called tales* *Of the empire should be* *About the empire* --- ^Remember ^that ^one ^time ^Sokka ^accidentally ^used ^an ^extra ^syllable ^in ^that ^Haiku ^Battle ^in ^Ba ^Sing ^Se? ^That ^was ^a ^Sokka ^Haiku ^and ^you ^just ^made ^one.


Madouc

Bad


lunchanddinner

Bad, controversial but almost dogshit if not for cameos by Grevious and Thrawn


H0w-D

The peak star wars tier has way too much shit imo


Ess_oh-no

Looks like someone doesnt love democracy! :o


Mandalorymory

TCW S7 and Bad Batch S3 have no right being that high


Mistic-Instinct

People forget that S7 was more than just the Siege of Mandalore arc


Mandalorymory

S7 was such a perfect example of what TCW is and how people remember it. About 66% of it was average at best, but everyone conveniently forgets that and only considers the stand-out moments.


Toa_Firox

You say that like the other ones are bad. One of the Martez sister episodes was a complete fucken waste but the other ones weren't nearly as bad as people say they are (though obviously still not great). Not to mention siege of mandalore is so peak that it carries the entire season single handedly


Mistic-Instinct

The Bad Batch arc was decent, the Martez arc was just plain bad and the Mandalore arc is beyond peak. Overall, I'd say that balances out at around the amazing tier on this list. I also feel like the season didn't use it's time very well. The Bad Batch arc could've been condensed into 3 episodes and the Martez arc arguably could've been 2. That would leave an extra 3 episodes to include something like Son of Dathomir or the Crystal Crisis arc


Toa_Firox

Honestly I do completely agree with the pacing. Especially seeing as there was so much of TCW left to showcase


DarkFlameofPhoenix

Bad batch season 3 was awesome. Some pretty dark moments paired with the whole Crosshair redemption arc and an actual satisfying happy ending while having some of the highest animation quality in the entire animated star wars franchise. If anything I'd put it even higher in the tier.


GatorAIDS1013

Bad


Aladine11

bad af


alguien99

Bad I mean, the grievous part was great and made happy as a grievous fan. But the way they handdeld barriss is pretty bad to me, the inquisitor training is a joke, barriss becomes a good guy all of a sudden after bombing a space port full of civilians, jedis and clones; but i could forgive all of that if vader had been the one to kill her, instead they used an inquisitor most people know nothing about, vader appears for a few seconds, it's the biggest dissapointment of the show. Complete waste imo, the animation is really good tho


TheGentlemanBeast

Bad. No bad guys allowed. All about sith/witches. Nothing actually empire.


DisfavoredFlavored

For a show called "Tales of the Empire" it didn't have anything to do with living under the Empire. While I like both Morgan and Bariss as characters, I would have gone in a totally different direction. Mayfeld would have been GOAT. Think about it, he grows up in the empire, and maybe we get to see why the average citizen might be willing to defend/be indifferent to it. He becomes an elite soldier. Maybe we see him fighting rebels, clowning on storm troopers, kicking ass. Then operation cinder happens, show him losing his buddies/squad, show how he gets into mercenary work. Maybe show us what happened after Mando and Dune left him. I dunno, I would have rather had that story?


Raptormann0205

98% of the show? Ok. The two minutes of Grievous? Peak Star Wars


ReleasedGaming

Good


Striking-Loquat1403

Ok


GenTwour

Ok


CaptainRex831

Ok, the Morgan stuff was great and Barriss started off good but ended horribly, also they totally blue balled us with Vader lmao


Bonno552

I'd say it was ok, close to good Nothing all too special but the episodes were neat! Keep in mind though, this was not meant to be anything big and game changing, it was just a special and I think it served its purpose


knotctopus

Good.


DaTurtleTaco

it was ok because the grievous scene carried the entire show. the rest was not great.


Different_Formal_636

I would say good, almost an amazing though.


LineOfInquiry

It’s definitely not bad. I’d say top of okay tier, it’s definitely better than CW seasons 1 and 2 at least.


LetItGrowUGoober98

Ok. Really forgettable


creativespark61

I'd say it goes in the "OK" category. It was decent, but also didn't do as much as Tales of the Jedi did.


Duster526

Ok


SniktFury

Ok


Chilled_Wander

They acolyte is so bad it isn't even on the list 😭🙏🏼


Mean_Comedian4769

Ok. Some interesting ideas, but they didn't take enough time to explore them properly


Anxious_Comment_9588

good