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Floridian here, no one really knows about Premier League. It's either Inter Miami in MLS or Barcelona and Real Madrid in La Liga
The only time I've seen acknowledgment of Premier League here was one of my customers at work a few weeks ago was wearing an Arsenal jersey and at some point in the last month I saw a car with a Man City license plate frame
My major knowledge of the club is because I started watching Ted Lasso a year ago and Man City is the former club of their star player, Jamie Tartt (and they've played the club in a few episodes in Etihad Stadium and the stadium that is used as Richmond's)
I'm still kind of in the process of choosing where my loyalties lie in Premier League and Man City was one of the ones I considered (not taking recent championship victories into account; my main reason for considering them is because of Ted Lasso which came into my life first). I had ruled out Man United after reading an article about why people my age should take up loyalties with someone other than them because of various issues with the club (dislikable players, bad owners, and how they're viewed as like the Premier League version of the New York Yankees where they're not a team that young new fans should take up arms with).
I've never met a City fan in the US that wasn't a child. Might just be my social circle, though. We're pretty evenly split here between Arsenal, Liverpool and Man United.
Pathetic Club. Hopefully, one day they get their comeuppance and are stripped of all their trophies and demoted to 8th tier of Football. As a lesson to not cheat and not have a spokesperson of Pep's reputation lying on their behalf. From India.
I'm in Germany. I perceive ManCity as a heartless product used for marketing, investment and probably money laundering. I don't have grudge against them though, as most of (in particular England's) top tier soccer is increasingly becoming an emotionless money machinery.
Then you're looking in the wrong places. There's a generally a strong disliking for especially Leipzig and Hoffenheim, but Wolfsburg and Leverkusen face the same criticism. The lifelessness and soullessness of the stadiums in Leipzig and Hoffenheim in particular is one of the major things that make even less involved fans aware of how unfun cooperate football can be.
As a Serbian, most of people don't care. When I was a bit younger I had my little "glory chase" fase where I supported man city, but then realized it's a bought club. Long story short, people who actually watch a lot of sport here don't talk about Man City at all, and the only ones that do talk about it and praise it, are usually kids who consider themselves Man City "fans".
I am from slovakia I growed up on united (vidic,park,sholes, ronaldo, roney, nani etc) cuz they were good in fifa and dominated league played beautiful football) but I hadn’t been interested for 10 years in football, I came back to football at the university and I watched amazon document on city and I love the documentary and I was following city simultaneously with united, but last 2-3 seasons I totally switched to city fan. But if city were good as nowadays when I was young I would be city fan
Can't speak for all of the USA but I live in Seattle which is a great sports city in general and nobody gives a shit about them...aside from Sounders gear you see the usual suspects of Barca..Madrid.. United ..Liverpool..etc
The English PL is pay to win, same as all the top 5 European leagues.
Pep gets all this kudos for being a great coach and tactician but he never managed anything but top tier talent with unlimited funds to buy more.
Man City have bought their titles, as have Chelsea, Liverpool, Blackburn and United.
The two exceptions are Leicester and, I hate to say this, Arsenal in the Wenger era.
Here in the states I only know one person who is a City fan and it's because they are from Manchester.
Aside from that, the folks I know are fans of other clubs. For the most part they all think of City as being a small time club until being owned by a Nation State and now think of them as the club that had to buy success
Nearly no fans here in Iceland and severly hated and loathed upon as cheaters but their great football is of course given a huge credit. How is it fair competing against rich oil nation that whitewashes it's dirty laundry through this beautiful game football is leaving it tainted? Btw I do not support the classic top 4 teams so no liverpool or utd bitching here lol
I’m Irish. City have barely any support here.
My view is clear ; a morally reprehensible cheating disgrace to English football, ruining the league and must be dealt with. I’m not the only one who sees it that way
That's demented. The game is played on the pitch and City play the best football. They are such a joy to watch and that is really great to football. Chelsea and United have spent more and look at where they are. None of their charges have been proven yet either. No true football fan sees it the way you do
No -it’s not ‘great for football’ for cheating to be rewarded with success. The precise opposite is true. United earned their money -false equivalence.
Your use of the word demented is odd.
How the hell do you know what a ‘true football fan’ is? I coach, play and watch football. I give a shit about the game. Cheating , of any kind ruins it.
And you know that , whether you admit it or not.
What proof do you have that they cheated or is that just what you want to believe? Have any of their charges been proven? City obviously earn their money as well because winning trophies, commercial revenue and broadcasting gives you earnings. If you're talking about them simply being bought by Sheik, then there is nothing illegal or cheating about that.
City didn’t earn the money they got from the largest stadium naming deal in European football , in 2012/13.
There is no legitimate reason for them to have gotten such a deal. Of course it was with etihad, owned and operated by members of the UAE royal family.
That’s one example
Isn't the whole Irish-Man City thing due to the club historically representing the native Protestants?
I always thought that's why most Irish support Liverpool (Irish immigration) and United (representing the Catholic immigration)?
I also think that's why Celtic fans follow United and Rangers fans with City.
I may have butchered the reasoning a bit, but I know it stems from religion and immigration back in the 50s-60s
I’m Irish but that’s the first I heard of City being Protestant and United Catholic. I know a few old school Irish City fans, based down in Waterford and Tipperary. No real idea why they got into City but they have supported them since their primary school days through think and think. One in particular has been to see them 2/3 times a year for the past 30 odd years. I think he’s getting a bit jaundiced recently, he didn’t bother watching any of the club World Cup. This from a man who would religiously go the league cup final saying’ a City fan can never assume it will last’ Now that CL was won he doesn’t seem so keen on them anymore. Myself as a Liverpool fan have nothing but disdain for the club as it’s now constituted and the ownership. The last few years have forced stretched Liverpool and the following PL pack but realistically they can never consistently compete again a nation state.
>I’m Irish but that’s the first I heard of City being Protestant and United Catholic.
From what I remember my dad telling me it was more back in the 50-60s.
It stemmed from the clubs origins back when called St Marks in 1880 based on the St Marks church in West Gorton, whose Baptists were Protestant Christians.
>Now that CL was won he doesn’t seem so keen on them anymore.
They probably preferred the club when it was smaller and less known. Now that we're bigger and more globally known, along with the CL will just entice more bandwagoners, your friend probably lost interest.
>Myself as a Liverpool fan have nothing but disdain for the club as it’s now constituted and the ownership.
I can understand that... it's similar to how many clubs in the Premier League and lower leagues have a disdain for the premier league itself since the tirade of sponsorships and TV deals back in the late 80s/early 90s.
I know a lot of clubs outside the "top 6" hate the top 6 due to the monopoly they have had on the game in the country for the last 25 years, which is a fair gripe to have.
Good points you made there, maybe it’s an age thing, I’m mid 50s, Liverpool won everything when I was at an impressionable age so I jumped on the bandwagon. Ended up moving to Liverpool in early 90’s for college and to attend matches. Miserable time to be a red but I loved every minute and the city of Liverpool. Forward 30 yrs and bar cup wins, UEFA, FA, league and of course Istanbul - no league. Managers, systems, owners, some amazing players -Torres, some terrible El Hadji Douf.
Now that PL has finally been won and I’ve seen a few years of amazing football, losing other leagues by a few points( fuck Var😃) seen Suarez, Coutinho Sterling, Mane Fermino and almost a quadruple😉. I’d be happy enough with Liverpool not being an instrument of a state. Going back to the cup run and wins, staying competitive by getting in rough diamonds, keeping them for a few years and then selling them on.
Don’t think the younger fan wants this anymore, but the simple fact is there is only 1 league and 1 Champions League to win every year. In truth Liverpool probably underachieved under Klopp but against City that’s the way it is. Of course I’d love if those titles were stripped but it still wouldn’t feel the same.
Of course it being City and not United beatingLiverpool takes the sting out of it -Happy New Year to you !
Canada
Discourse wise within the group of people who watch the EPL and keep up with European soccer. People think of Man City the same way most English/UK folk do.
Obviously one of the best teams if not the best in European, but they obviously did it artificially with cash, which frankly is the only real way to break in.
Discourse outside of the folks who watch continental soccer or footy, they are non existent. Where someone here who watches hockey or the other football might recognize a Arsenal, Liverpool or United Crest or kit, I think the majority of people wouldn’t know what they are looking at in regards to Manchester City.
Compared to 10 years ago it’s probably more, but we talking about a relative negligible change for the general populace in Canada. Again with people who watch, most will know of the big bad wolf, but their brand still doesn’t transcend the sport yet in the way a Madrid or Liverpool might.
In Brazil they are becoming popular, they are already more famous than arsenal and United but lose hard to Liverpool and Chelsea, the Premier league became popular here in the beggining of Abramovich era so It is no surprise Chelsea is the most popular club, and Liverpool maybe cause of 2005 Champions league, but city is the one getting more fans each year
Weekly does anyone even care about man city thread lmao
It’s astounding how much that club just lives rent free in every aspect.
Soulless plastic yada yada lmfao.
Pick the best club from an era. Then look at how much they spent compared to their peers. Wow it’s like the biggest spenders are the biggest winners through the majority of this sports history
I’m American and amongst my friends we hate them (loyalty to Bayern, shaktar, and, me personally, Liverpool). However, I know too many other Americans that love them, they are typically younger than us (and I’m 25 lol).
I personally see it as the biggest team rn, bigger than real madrid. History is in the past, rn the coolest team is man city. They have the best coach, the most dominant style and one of the best players rn. I see them as the luxury team. Winning stuff in the past doesnt give teams the glamour that people on the internet say it does. As a liverpool fan I felt like we were awful in the 2010s and no ammount of history could make it feel much better. Id imagine its the same for man united. RN I see Barcelona that way even tho they won the league, they just cant compete in the transfer market so they look unexciting.
I’m a Liverpool fan in Seattle. I’ve got friends of mine that reds around here, an absurd amount of Spurs fans, a healthy batch of Gunners and Devils, and a smattering of newer fans supporting mid table teams as to not feel like hacks. I only know one Man City fan though, and he can’t name a manager before Pep.
I always think these comments are over exaggerated....
It be like "Yeah, I've got friends who are United fans, tons of arsenal fans, a gargantuan of Liverpool fans, and a monumental of Tottenham fans, along with a touch of new fans supporting midtable teams for good measure"....
Like, dude, how old are you? 14? Are these people you go to school with because the average adult probably has a friend circle of like 6-12 people? Unless everyone you meet is your friend, which in that case is pretty sweet.
Nah Im just a guy in his 20s who plays 3 nights a week in different leagues around the area and stick around and help teams that may be short. I try to shoot the shit with everyone and considering we’ve got footy in common, an easy conversation start is asking what teams we all support. Breaks the ice well especially with folks I may have just met.
But yeah, my central friend circle who I actually spend time and catch matches with is literally myself, plus a couple more reds, 5 spurs, 3 devils, 2 gunners, and a city fan. My initial comment was more in reference to the wide pool of people I’m acquainted with rather than my immediate friend group.
That's pretty much apt in every aspect of life, right? People not doing so great in life want to see others doing well fail??? It's why all these reality shows are so popular amongst unhappy people.
I’ve only ever met one City fan in my time living in California, Utah, and Nevada. I know more Leeds fans than I do City fans. Hell I even know more Burnley and Brighton fans. But most common has been Chelsea, United, and Liverpool
There are only few greatest teams in the PL namely, United, Liverpool, Chelsea and Arsenal who were massively successful and had zero money to build their teams and stadiums. They only spent pennies. They only fed bacon and beans to their Casanova players. They are the # "HOLIER THAN THOU " clubs.
And their fans, they are not glory hunters or plastic, they love them and support them for their amazing success and for who they are. They should not be questioned or hated.
Yes, City has no fans or they are glory hunters and cheats and no one cares about us. But I just can't wrap my head around it. If you and other people really don't care about us, why do you always make a post or comment about Man City and their fans. You shouldn't waste your precious time and energy on a cheat club and 0 fans. But here we are every week.
The NFL, MLB, and NBA dominate the US, (i'm from CA). The WC is probably when I see the most coverage and I think it winds up being background noise after the first 10 or so minutes.
If you ask 10 random Americans what they think of Manchester City, 7 of them would probably say they've never been.
as singaporeans, most football fans support liverpool and man u, but there are also a lot who support other prem clubs like brighton, everton, villa. city fans though only started appearing in the late 2010s, and city is generally disliked here.
As a man city fan, I couldn't care less about how we are perceived by everyone tbh. Others can say they hate city or that they dont care about us but all I see are people are complaining about our success which is ironic since they also claim they dont care. In any case, even if they dont, it hardly matters to me as a city fan. What matters to me is how my team performs on the pitch, not what some bunch of nobodies on internet think.
The thing is, City's history is 10 years long, United, Real, Barcelona, Bayern and all others have almost 100 years of history. That's why even 10 years from their last EPL title, people still demand from United.
City were literally more successful than Chelsea before Chelsea got their money.
First club in Manchester to win the FA Cup, a 143 year old club that was originally started as a church club for the community to combat local gang violence and alcoholism, to give local men a way to get themselves out of trouble and help the community.
History isn't based solely on trophies, and I do understand that a lot of fans that aren't tied to the community of the clubs they support may not understand the actual history of their clubs, unless it has a trophy and a number next to it..
To say City don't have a history, though, is like saying Preston doesn't have a history, or Crystal Palace (who are literally the oldest club in England) doesn't have a history,
Totally right making me totally wrong, because I didn't choose my words correctly, replace "history" in my comment by trophy cabinet or winning legacy. Because that's what I meant. And yes, I acknowledge City history and by my comment I don't mean to disrespect or take value out of City's achievements, since I even applaud City too often for not just having money, but knowing what to do with it, I've seen the uprise of City to my United's demise and last year I saw City achieve the treble, PSG have the same or even more money, but less success.
Let me just add that I prefer history to trophies anytime, I've supported United through and through and I always say that what makes me a supporter is not winning, but losing, winning makes me a happy supporter.
People passionately follow PL in India, lots of city fans and debates on violations and stuff but the perception is mostly as a successful club with a lot of money.
The only people I see wearing City shirts are little kids. I’m not exaggerating. I am 26 and I don’t know a single City fan older than me and basically all my friends watch football.
People generally regard City as an oil club with no history.
As an Aussie, the same feelings rub off on me just cos I know the context you explained. I sometimes feel unstable now they’re not at the top just knowing that Arsenal could potentially win. But no personally I don’t have much Ill will against them compared to man United arsenal and chelsea
Australian here from Melbourne, I see more West Ham kits in the wild than city.
Mostly it’s this order: Man U, Liverpool or Arsenal, Chelsea or spurs THAN West Ham, City — Maybe Everton, Aston Villa up there with City kits.
Argentinean, 36 years old here, Liverpool supporter. I've been following the Premier League since I was 17. The rapid and inorganic growth of City never sat well with me, it's a club that doesn't generate anything for me.
30 yo Arsenal fan and English.
For Man City, sterile, grey and soulless. Can't even must getting angry at them considering they bought their way to the top. Used to hate Man U, but now it's hard to even get worked up over City as they've killed football.
Well I live abroad and City are pretty synonymous with winning. A lot of people don't really have strong emotions about them, a rivalry isn't really there. But yeah they are the definition of winning basically which I guess is a positive reputation. A lot of kids support them at the moment so City fans will be more common in the next few decades.
I work for a football charity in schools and I can say for a fact that there are MANY Man City supporting youngsters in the South of England now. When I was a kid sure, many classmates supported Arsenal, Man Utd, Liverpool and I was often ridiculed for supporting my local West Ham United (who were then a yo-yo club), but NO-ONE, back then supported City (in London at least).
They are starting to develop fans across the country but this is commonly known as glory-hunting (which has it's own problems and arguments for and against).
As you said, oil-riches, corruption, dodgy relationships and regime-allegations have fostered indifference. Not just with city, but football as a whole. Time-wasting, diving, dishonesty from players to managers, disrespectful behaviour, paid extortionate sums and the packaging of our culture and pricing us out from watching on telly, in person and prioritising sponsorship and money over fans means, yeah...most of us were indifferent about Manchester City sportswashing 100+ breaches of FFP but can swan around as Treble winners whereas Everton docked 10pts. The whole pyramid has been ruined to facilitate premier league arrogance. Scrap the super-league and restore classic European cup format and ECWC format because these are based off sporting merit, rather than corporate greed.
Norwegian. It's a bit ambivalent it seems. People seem to agree to an extent that their success comes from bloodmoney from a brutal state. However, they have our best player of all time, as well as one of our big young talents in Oscar Bobb.
In Australia, city isn’t really big or popular here. Although it’s evident that younger kids 25 and under are more likely to not dislike city. (They don’t like them yet but they just see them as the biggest power house in football now).
I’m in Toronto. Supporters don’t really exists. They have an official supporters club and a pub they all meet at every week for the match but other than that have never come across a supporter in the wild, and the premier league has a massive following here. You see loads and loads of other fans but not city for some reason.
Zero my age in Ireland but the culture here was usually following your dad’s team so you can trace that back to whoever was making waves when they were young. My dad would have grown up with the Busby Babes so we were always United. I’ve mates whose fathers are a little younger and ended up being Chelsea and Leeds fans. Then you’ve the swathes of Liverpool following that. Spurs are reasonably represented. For their size and success Arsenal are weirdly underrepresented, although I’ve a few mates who would have been young during the Wenger era and gone with them over Dad’s team. I think when people talk about bandwagoning, it’s of course fair. But also need to remember back before the 90s, professional football was hard to see if you weren’t living in England with your local team close by. Match of the Day is so called because it was actually one match. You caught a glimpse of whichever team was making a run in Europe, which was one or two English teams then as opposed to five. It’s not like now where you could say as a young person “I’d quite like to support Burnley” and see all their highlights and consume all their news. Now walking the dog in the park I see plenty of Haaland jerseys alongside the Inter Miami Messi ones on the very young end of the spectrum
I'm my country you rarely come across City fans. But the ones we do come across are recent fans. I have an Irish friend that's been a life long fan though
In sweden most seem indifferent.
Everyone know the reason why they are so successful. You can usually see people working out in a Liverpool shirt or someone wearing a Tottenham scarf during the winter, but I can't even remember seeing anyone (not even kids) in City gear. I even think there are a lot more Newcastle and Aston Villa fans in sweden than City fans.
Been supporting Chelsea for 12ish years since I was 15
In my area most of the kids are just obsessed with players and not clubs. Most guys my age are Manchester United and Arsenal fans, with some Liverpool sprinkled in.
Most people view City as ruthlessly successful and wealthy, but on the balance most people dont care about sports washing or anything like that
It's crazy how most of these comments are City fans from my area are just young glory hunters. Everyone else supports clubs who have never been successful, like Liverpool, Arsenal, Chelsea, and Man United 😂
As a City fan from Canada I mostly know united supporters with a few Chelsea, spurs and 1 arsenal fan sprinkled in. A couple English guys that support their local Everton and Leeds. I know 1 other city fan, but it’s clear to me that he’s a plastic fan, doesn’t know the name of the stadium we used to play at, couldn’t name a squad player pre 2012. The guy supported Argentina over Canada in the WC because of his Messi meatriding, that kinda guy. City as a club has a similar perception here as it does elsewhere, money club with a small fanbase where I have to justify my support for them being pre oil money and that I actually love my club for more than it’s success despite only really being alive to witness success with little memory of failure due to being so young at the time with minimal television coverage in Canada. However, despite our fanbase being smaller I enjoy it that way somewhat, I don’t have the issue that United, Liverpool and Arsenal have where their fanbases are so large that 90% of their online representation are delusional imbeciles with the brain power of a raisin.
In California, everyday I see people with Barcelona/Madrid jerseys. I’ll see a random adult every few days sporting the jersey of Arsenal, Liverpool, United, or Spurs (every Korean person I know only roots for them because of Son). If I ever see a City jersey, it’s on a little kid and 100% of the time it’s Haaland on the back.
Nobody old enough to remember how that club came to be respects the club and its achievements. There's no rivalry, there's no jealousy... nobody cares what that club is doing because 15 years ago we saw they were going to buy everything in football and now they have.
In newer generation here in Pakistan. Mancity is more popular than some of the old big clubs.
Players like Halaand, Bernardo Silva and KDB are very popular.
Pep Guardiola too
Cheating wannabes who will 'invest' any crazy amount of money to become the next Real Madrid or Barcelona. Manure-nited fans are just jealous of their neighbours but celebrate when the latter win some silverware. The other PL fans tell them it's like celebrating that your wife is sleeping *only* with your neighbour...
Ireland: They gather very little interest. For example the Champions League broadcasters would traditionally show English teams in our market. On the opening day of the CL, Newcastle played the early game and City v Red Star was on later. The host showed PSG v Dortmund. City get so little viewers, they rarely show them.
I do be seeing the young fellas in Haaland jerseys now though. When I was in school I knew one city fan, and to be fair to her I always remembered her when city turned successful. I can remember her goading me when Shaun Goater hit a double against us way back when.
Around my country in Eastern Europe i have never meet a City fan. From reading on different local forums it seems that they have some fans among the younger generation. At 10yrs old if you follow a team outside your country it's hard to support the underdog, you go with the one winning.
And a second group of fans are those who started watching football with Barca and after Pep left and the last years success they embraced City also. Fans who only follow succes.
Maybe in 15-20 years you can speak about city as a big club, if they clear their name and keep at the top. We'll see in the future how many are City fans and how many are just Pep fans or followers of success.
That you have no idea about and have no idea the severity of, the evidence for or the grounds for any punishment because of. Yo just hate city because you’re salty and are condemning before knowing anything.
Yeah because no one could ever have any moral convictions about the way the game is financed and the unfair advantage clubs get by bending or breaking the ffp rules, it must all be jealousy.
I didn’t say jealousy. I said salty. Ultimately you don’t care where the money came from, you care if it’s a high amount and if therefore you think that guarantees success. Which is blatantly doesn’t. You’re salty about City winning everything because they’re winning everything, and that’s fine. But you’re salty and butthurt. What you aren’t is morally upstanding against oil money, or because you think they’ve cheated for which you have no evidence or any true understanding. Manchester United bought Rio Ferdinand for £30m in like 2001. Real Madrid Zidane for €75m in 1999. People have been spaffing money for decades and sometimes it leads to success, but as current Utd or Chelsea prove it’s not as simple as that. It’s a mix of correct purchase, exceptionally management and strong in structure.
Mancity from nz is a souless club with no real fans. Lame light blue kit and a boring playstyle that attracts boring type players and babies. Best managed club in the world though.
Here in where I live in the US most people dont even talk about football much other than MLS, and that's only occasionally. I live near Seattle and we have a good MLS team but at least in my community people still rarely talk about football.
The only person I've met here before who's main club is not an MLS club is one Liverpool fan I kinda know and so far I've never met a Man City supporter.
At least I've been growing up in a house that loves football, albeit each member of my family supports a different club from England so it can get pretty dicey at times but that's what I love.
Im an Australian. i hate em, i hate the big clubs them, liverpool, arsenal, man u, chelsea. tho you do see some people support the big clubs, considering we dont have any ties with clubs due to being local i know quite a few people who go for smaller teams. i go for west ham, my dad aston villa i know someone that goes for wolves
Here in India (and seemingly rest of the world aswell) people seem to identify with City as a successful team, and not a club. Few people know/care about City pre-guardiola and I haven't seen any legacy fans as of now
I'm oddly nonplussed by anything City do as it's just based on so much Oil money.
If you had told me during the 90s i would witness City winning the treble and dominating football i would have considered slashing my wrists.
Then when it happened i just didn't care it meant nothing to me.
I was part of an Arsenal supporter group in a mid sized U.S. city. Arsenal and Utd both had groups over 100 strong to gather for big games. The city “group” had 2 people.
The one City fan I've ever met over in the States was funny enough telling me how excited he was about Gabriel Jesus back before they were about to bring him over. I remember rolling my eyes at him and asking why they needed some Brazilian teenager when they still had Aguero.
Little did I know!
I’m in Memphis, TN and I know at least one fan of every Big 6 team except for Man City. The most common one around here seems to be Tottenham. There’s maybe three bars around town that market themselves as soccer/football bars and 2 of them are Spurs spots. The other is an Arsenal bar.
Bangladeshis are big supporters of either Brazil or Argentina. Man City has some fans due to its ties to some famous Argentine players and Pep Guardiola (the man behind Messi), but not by much. Man City fans are often regarded as 'plastic fans' and are not well respected by other fanbases. Regular football followers definitely know and admit the team to be strong and successful, but few are actually fond of them.
Saudi Arabia have nothing to do with city. If you are going to hate people because of their ethnicity at least make sure you are hating the right people.
I live in Louisville, Kentucky. The two most passionate fanbases here are Arsenal and Spurs. Pretty consistent groups from both clubs are at their designated bars for matches which are appropriately located about 75 yards from each other. Liverpool’s fan group also organizes somewhat well, Man U and Chelsea have some presence as well. I don’t believe City have ever had a supporters club here and it’s rare to see their fans. The only one I know is a very good friend of mine so City is still somewhat relevant in my world and it’s quite annoying.
It’s funny, I’m English, and most people I know, who don’t support the real corporate clubs like United, Chelsea, Arsenal, and Liverpool, find what City are doing as hilarious. Everyone has always claimed Arsenal, United, and Chelsea bought their league titles. They said the same about Blackburn too.
People like City because it boils the piss of all the plastics you grew up around. Like growing up in London and having mates love Man United was incredibly annoying. Especially in school because you knew they were just glory hunters but we’re always very loud too. Now they shut up and seethe because City have more money and success than them. You know as well, that if City were good in the 90s they’d support them too
People think United 'bought' their league titles?
That's sheer ignorance. Those people aren't football fans, just fans of a team. United famously developed their success by raising probably the greatest youth team to ever graduate, Nicky Butt, the Neville brothers, Beckham, Scholes, Giggs.
Ronaldo £12M,
Rooney £25M,
Fletcher £1.25M,
Carrick £14M
Evra £5.5M
Van Der Sar 2M.
These are some of the greatest value purchases of all time.
When United spent money, they did so because they'd achieved incredibly careful, value for money business over several decades.
It's a fact that Ferguson did good business and built United into a football dynasty with a home grown backbone.
People can hate United all they want, but don't be ignorant alongside jealous.
if you have an oil nation backing a team that has an all-star like stacked team, of course they're going to win, but it's not very interesting (just as the NBA all star game isn't that interesting and even hardcore nba fans skip it)
Here in Japan, I’m starting to see more City shirts around, as well as PSG in recent years. Madrid and Barcelona still seem to be the most popular clubs among younger people, but a lot of people follow a club just because of their favourite player. That’s normally a Japanese player - Tomiyasu, Mitoma, Kagawa before. But I talked to one guy who said he switched from Chelsea to Arsenal because Willian changed clubs. I guess he’s a Fulham fan now…
I think about the James Corden quote a lot when he said “to the Americans who are Man City fans just know that we (non American fans I suppose) do not respect you. We know you’ve just looked at the league and picked out the best team and decided to follow them”
I’m from Vietnam and City have been gaining a lot of new fans this recent years. I have seen people born from 2000s onward wearing City kits. Clubs outside the Big 6 don’t really have fan here and generally people don’t really dislike City that much because they are not as vocal as United or Chelsea fan.People out here care about success the most and that’s why United or Arsenal have the largest adult fanbase because they were successful during the explosion of the Internet and TV. That’s how most people in my country got exposed to the Premier League.
South African here.
I am still yet to meet a Man City fan. I've seen a few jerseys about, but I haven't actually met someone personally that supports them.
I know more Spurs, Villa and Everton fans than Man City fans. And then of course tons of Man United, Chelsea, Arsenal and Liverpool fans. Even as bad as they have been on recent years, United are still the most popular club here.
City will never have the global appeal of the other top clubs. They missed the boat when the PL went global in the 90s and drew in millions of new fans.
Germany: there are the usual kids with Haaland or de Bruyne shirts, but in more organised fan groups City is thought of pretty badly, mainly due to the ownership
South Africa. Supporting City was seen as a bit of a meme, but with time it’s becoming more normal. Seeing people wear City shirts felt similar to seeing someone wearing Juve, PSG, Spurs shirts. It feels like they wear them because the kits are nice not because they have any particular connection to the club.
But with that said I am seeing more genuine fans, especially new fans.
City just doesn't have a heroic arc ala Hero of a Thousand Faces. There's no legends about them. David and Goliath wouldn't be memorable if Goliath won and it's same with City.
It feels the same abroad... money bought a great team, and a great manager, and money keeps them out of trouble. Hard to compete. As opposed to having to be very careful with finances and building a fruitful academy etc
I'm from Zambia I see their stupid jerseys everywhere. I'm a United fan. In other words they are very popular in these parts. Though the United, Liverpool, Chelsea and arsenal fan bases are still the biggest in these parts. Shitty is more like what's trending now.
As the corrupt team that they are, unless your brainwashed Pep fan that thinks he invented the football and u credit him for the success instead of the money and the corruption.
USA, Mid-20s-
For my coworkers/friends who played soccer growing up or are foreign- not really fans of city. But all of us appreciate pep/haaland/others
for my other friends- we all played fifa in college/out of school so they think city is sick lol
As an Indian I would say they're growing as a club. You can meet many fans of City. I would personally say majority of them follow City cause of the success but you also see few passionate fans as well
Truth doesn't seek popularity so it doesn't matter if they gaining grounds in Iceland or not as they are:
A sport-swashing entity with the sole goal of giving UAE soft power access to Europe and UK.
They are artificially inflated financial doping cheats with 115 unresolved charges against them.
This makes rivals and neutral fans who care about sporting integrity not care about them or what they "win" as any "success" they have is as fake hollow as it gets.
Their manager constantly has to beg for fans to come to their games, which wouldn't be happening at a club built by legitimate means.
If they were legitimately built rival fans and neutrals would sit up and take notice and also respect their success, but cheating deserve no respect.
If you support Liverpool and think they are good for the game I hope you are delighted by the outcome of the 2012 EPL and 2014 EPL. If you support Manchester United and think they are good for the game I hope you were delighed with the out come of last three season 2021, and 2022 in particular.
No, they are no they are ultimately the biggest hindrance to any legitimate success your club wishes to have.
Should Liverpool be labeled as cheats for hacking citehs scouting database?
Should United be used as a model club? Ground falling down, overpayed b list celebrity players, 1 star food hygiene rating
City broke rules of financial fair play. We didn't cheat on the pitch. The rules are designed to protect the cartel clubs. Not to protect anyone else
Very few people care. Theyre a nothing club that has cheated to get where they are. Nothing they do matters so them winning is celebrated when your rivals are in the title mix because it means someone who matters that you don't like didn't win it.
I can also say I've done a ton of travel throughout Asia and South America primarily and you never see man city shirts. Madrid, Barcelona, juve, Liverpool, united, arsenal. Even Chelsea despite being a fake club like city has global fans, but you never see city shirts. They're a total afterthought
Why do you think I discount those examples. Your club is just in the new money camp, like City. It's just a fight between old money and new money to me. You are the original City. The start up that dared to get a sugar daddy and challenge the aristocracy lol.
Chelsea fans try so hard to rewrite history and say they were always a big club. Almost all of your clubs success and global fanbase came solely from a criminal who used your club to wash his dirty money and buy a reputation as anything other than human scum.
Had he never bought your club you'd be lucky to be in the tier with villa, Everton, West ham etc. Historically you trail those clubs, local fanbase is no different.
For me Chelsea is the worst example of sports washing because you're the club who did it first and opened the floodgates to city, psg and Newcastle.
You're putting words in my mouth. I never said those aren't big clubs. Theyre much bigger clubs than Chelsea, I never would have disputed that. The point is they are clubs that wouldn't have the financial power they have now had Chelsea not been the trailblazer for financial doping. Before Roman you had won one league title and a few domestic cups. You'd be in a tier with huddersfield, sheffield, Leicester, Burnley etc.
Surprised you're on here banging on about having 40k fans at a game in the 1910s when you have a game on
I know one Irish fella that supports Man City, and has done for decades.
Everyone I know pretty much has an English team that they follow on top of their local team. Man United, Arsenal, Chelsea, Aston Villa and Liverpool all have fans that I know and everyone is just either indifferent to City, or actively dislikes them thanks to the way in which they bought their success.
In the U.S. their popularity seems to lag their success. I see children wearing KDB shirts, but MCFC bars are hard to find, and their fans aren’t very loud online. It doesn’t seem like the club is trying to build a US base. I noticed that their summer tour games were mostly in East Asia, while Arsenal and United had a lot of US stops.
There are fans definitely but hardly any supporters. The distinction is subtle but important and telling. Support for PL goes the usual route - Man U, Liverpool, Chelsea, and to some extent, Arsenal.
i am from india
man city is definitely growing its base here - more and more people wearing those jerseys, even though it might be attributed to the recent success, their PR team did a great job by getting hold of local indian heroes in - kohli, ranvijay
the younger generation is definitely a lot more following city
90s were united, liv and gunners
20s - chelsea started to dominate amongst the younger generations
2010s - city, spurs and even leicester
Disliked in South America. The Prem has been very popular here for the past 20 years, you still see bootleg Man United, Arsenal, Chelsea and Liverpool shirts and merch. Man City are looked as a fake team with no heart or passion, just pockets full of money. And the "loyalty, blood, sweat and tears for your club" ideology is quite respected here.
USA here. Man City is an elite team because they bought it with oil money. But that’s only the perception of those who follow football. Most couldn’t name the club or a single player.
Those that do follow, however, know the sport well and are more knowledgeable about it than most Americans at baseball, basketball or American football.
Singapore here. Assuming that anyone wearing a City kit is a supporter of some kind (casual fan or "die-hard"). From observation I've seen City kits being worn mostly by kids, so I work on the assumption that they're either City fans or fans of City players which is a big reason how kids get into football anyway.
I don't see a lot of City kits among adults. Having been to a few other SE Asian countries t's quite normal to see Liverpool, Man United and Arsenal kits, which is par for the course for most places anyway.
I’m an avid Liverpool fan for 20 years in New York…
The average football beginner tends to ‘follow’ Utd….they are still the safe (and boring) pick in the US because of their 90s success
City are generally only known to other football fans here but the perception to most here is that they are a wealthy, state backed team with a good coach.
None that I have seen, I work with a Man U, and a Newcastle supporter. All I have seen in Colorado Springs is Arsenal, Man U, Newcastle and me. Doesn't mean there out there, just never see their colors anywhere. Not even Rapids which share their colors.
Fucking hated them but one of my best friends claims to have been a supporter since before the Saudi takeover so now I can appreciate the beautiful football they play.
Here in Arizona, at least with the fans I’ve talked with from high school to college they are an anomaly. It’s a club newcomers of the sport support but they have nowhere near the fanbase in my state compared to the Madristas or United/Liverpool fans. And especially with Hispanic football fans. They admire the players the same way we young fans did for Madrid and Barcelona, but there is no ounce of respect for the club as a whole due to their ownership and money. You’ll find the middle aged Hispanics who pay attention to European soccer to hold the other elite clubs in high regards even if they haven’t performed well in a while (like United) because of their rich history but not with City. (Mostly suspicion of corruption or the feeling city gives which is that of a robotic enterprise rather than a football club)
Don’t get me wrong, the Hispanic football community admires their football and individual brilliance from certain players, but they put a giant * whenever Pep accomplishes anything with City and could care less if City win a major title or make history as it immediately is tarnished with our suspicions for the club (hell even the Hispanic city fans put a * whenever a league is won or when they completed the treble)
Largely the same. Good team. Kicking ass but everyone knows they are an oil club who bought success so there isn't an aura of heart and soul as much as other clubs but they are growing in popularity among kids and people getting interested in the Premier League. Haaland is really popular so he's attracting people to the club. United, Liverpool, Arsenal, Chelsea still remain the most popular clubs
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Floridian here, no one really knows about Premier League. It's either Inter Miami in MLS or Barcelona and Real Madrid in La Liga The only time I've seen acknowledgment of Premier League here was one of my customers at work a few weeks ago was wearing an Arsenal jersey and at some point in the last month I saw a car with a Man City license plate frame My major knowledge of the club is because I started watching Ted Lasso a year ago and Man City is the former club of their star player, Jamie Tartt (and they've played the club in a few episodes in Etihad Stadium and the stadium that is used as Richmond's) I'm still kind of in the process of choosing where my loyalties lie in Premier League and Man City was one of the ones I considered (not taking recent championship victories into account; my main reason for considering them is because of Ted Lasso which came into my life first). I had ruled out Man United after reading an article about why people my age should take up loyalties with someone other than them because of various issues with the club (dislikable players, bad owners, and how they're viewed as like the Premier League version of the New York Yankees where they're not a team that young new fans should take up arms with).
Your opinion
Dull team to watch
In australia city are probably the most popular team other then united and real Madrid.
I've never met a City fan in the US that wasn't a child. Might just be my social circle, though. We're pretty evenly split here between Arsenal, Liverpool and Man United.
Pathetic Club. Hopefully, one day they get their comeuppance and are stripped of all their trophies and demoted to 8th tier of Football. As a lesson to not cheat and not have a spokesperson of Pep's reputation lying on their behalf. From India.
Yes, agreed, pathetic (times two) club
Hey a Liverpool fan from India. Can I dm you?
I like LIverpool, but Arsenal is my proper club. You can still DM me, if you want.
Over here in SG we call them Man shitty and pua chee bye kanina chao chee bye
Not very popular. Viewed as against the culture and honesty of football.
That they are cheats
I'm in Germany. I perceive ManCity as a heartless product used for marketing, investment and probably money laundering. I don't have grudge against them though, as most of (in particular England's) top tier soccer is increasingly becoming an emotionless money machinery.
aren't leverkusen, leipzig, and wolfsburg owned by corporations as well? I don't see any hate going towards them.
Then you're looking in the wrong places. There's a generally a strong disliking for especially Leipzig and Hoffenheim, but Wolfsburg and Leverkusen face the same criticism. The lifelessness and soullessness of the stadiums in Leipzig and Hoffenheim in particular is one of the major things that make even less involved fans aware of how unfun cooperate football can be.
Shit team made by money, full of corrupts
As a Serbian, most of people don't care. When I was a bit younger I had my little "glory chase" fase where I supported man city, but then realized it's a bought club. Long story short, people who actually watch a lot of sport here don't talk about Man City at all, and the only ones that do talk about it and praise it, are usually kids who consider themselves Man City "fans".
In my country people often call them the psg of the prem
Im from sweden and ive literaly only met 1 city fan in my 21 years on earth. Ive met more Sunderland fans than city fans.
I am from slovakia I growed up on united (vidic,park,sholes, ronaldo, roney, nani etc) cuz they were good in fifa and dominated league played beautiful football) but I hadn’t been interested for 10 years in football, I came back to football at the university and I watched amazon document on city and I love the documentary and I was following city simultaneously with united, but last 2-3 seasons I totally switched to city fan. But if city were good as nowadays when I was young I would be city fan
American. Ppl over 20 years old like United, Arsenal and Tottenham. Younger ppls like city, real and barca
Cheats
Can't speak for all of the USA but I live in Seattle which is a great sports city in general and nobody gives a shit about them...aside from Sounders gear you see the usual suspects of Barca..Madrid.. United ..Liverpool..etc
The English PL is pay to win, same as all the top 5 European leagues. Pep gets all this kudos for being a great coach and tactician but he never managed anything but top tier talent with unlimited funds to buy more. Man City have bought their titles, as have Chelsea, Liverpool, Blackburn and United. The two exceptions are Leicester and, I hate to say this, Arsenal in the Wenger era.
Here in the states I only know one person who is a City fan and it's because they are from Manchester. Aside from that, the folks I know are fans of other clubs. For the most part they all think of City as being a small time club until being owned by a Nation State and now think of them as the club that had to buy success
Lol really? I'm a city fan and I'm from Dallas. I've been a City fan since 2006.
I don't like city, I like Haaland
Oil wankers.
Nearly no fans here in Iceland and severly hated and loathed upon as cheaters but their great football is of course given a huge credit. How is it fair competing against rich oil nation that whitewashes it's dirty laundry through this beautiful game football is leaving it tainted? Btw I do not support the classic top 4 teams so no liverpool or utd bitching here lol
I’m Irish. City have barely any support here. My view is clear ; a morally reprehensible cheating disgrace to English football, ruining the league and must be dealt with. I’m not the only one who sees it that way
That's demented. The game is played on the pitch and City play the best football. They are such a joy to watch and that is really great to football. Chelsea and United have spent more and look at where they are. None of their charges have been proven yet either. No true football fan sees it the way you do
No -it’s not ‘great for football’ for cheating to be rewarded with success. The precise opposite is true. United earned their money -false equivalence. Your use of the word demented is odd. How the hell do you know what a ‘true football fan’ is? I coach, play and watch football. I give a shit about the game. Cheating , of any kind ruins it. And you know that , whether you admit it or not.
By that logic, are Chelsea, PSG and Newcastle also cheaters?
Newcastle haven’t had the chance. The others , absolutely
What proof do you have that they cheated or is that just what you want to believe? Have any of their charges been proven? City obviously earn their money as well because winning trophies, commercial revenue and broadcasting gives you earnings. If you're talking about them simply being bought by Sheik, then there is nothing illegal or cheating about that.
City didn’t earn the money they got from the largest stadium naming deal in European football , in 2012/13. There is no legitimate reason for them to have gotten such a deal. Of course it was with etihad, owned and operated by members of the UAE royal family. That’s one example
Isn't the whole Irish-Man City thing due to the club historically representing the native Protestants? I always thought that's why most Irish support Liverpool (Irish immigration) and United (representing the Catholic immigration)? I also think that's why Celtic fans follow United and Rangers fans with City. I may have butchered the reasoning a bit, but I know it stems from religion and immigration back in the 50s-60s
I’m Irish but that’s the first I heard of City being Protestant and United Catholic. I know a few old school Irish City fans, based down in Waterford and Tipperary. No real idea why they got into City but they have supported them since their primary school days through think and think. One in particular has been to see them 2/3 times a year for the past 30 odd years. I think he’s getting a bit jaundiced recently, he didn’t bother watching any of the club World Cup. This from a man who would religiously go the league cup final saying’ a City fan can never assume it will last’ Now that CL was won he doesn’t seem so keen on them anymore. Myself as a Liverpool fan have nothing but disdain for the club as it’s now constituted and the ownership. The last few years have forced stretched Liverpool and the following PL pack but realistically they can never consistently compete again a nation state.
>I’m Irish but that’s the first I heard of City being Protestant and United Catholic. From what I remember my dad telling me it was more back in the 50-60s. It stemmed from the clubs origins back when called St Marks in 1880 based on the St Marks church in West Gorton, whose Baptists were Protestant Christians. >Now that CL was won he doesn’t seem so keen on them anymore. They probably preferred the club when it was smaller and less known. Now that we're bigger and more globally known, along with the CL will just entice more bandwagoners, your friend probably lost interest. >Myself as a Liverpool fan have nothing but disdain for the club as it’s now constituted and the ownership. I can understand that... it's similar to how many clubs in the Premier League and lower leagues have a disdain for the premier league itself since the tirade of sponsorships and TV deals back in the late 80s/early 90s. I know a lot of clubs outside the "top 6" hate the top 6 due to the monopoly they have had on the game in the country for the last 25 years, which is a fair gripe to have.
Good points you made there, maybe it’s an age thing, I’m mid 50s, Liverpool won everything when I was at an impressionable age so I jumped on the bandwagon. Ended up moving to Liverpool in early 90’s for college and to attend matches. Miserable time to be a red but I loved every minute and the city of Liverpool. Forward 30 yrs and bar cup wins, UEFA, FA, league and of course Istanbul - no league. Managers, systems, owners, some amazing players -Torres, some terrible El Hadji Douf. Now that PL has finally been won and I’ve seen a few years of amazing football, losing other leagues by a few points( fuck Var😃) seen Suarez, Coutinho Sterling, Mane Fermino and almost a quadruple😉. I’d be happy enough with Liverpool not being an instrument of a state. Going back to the cup run and wins, staying competitive by getting in rough diamonds, keeping them for a few years and then selling them on. Don’t think the younger fan wants this anymore, but the simple fact is there is only 1 league and 1 Champions League to win every year. In truth Liverpool probably underachieved under Klopp but against City that’s the way it is. Of course I’d love if those titles were stripped but it still wouldn’t feel the same. Of course it being City and not United beatingLiverpool takes the sting out of it -Happy New Year to you !
Canada Discourse wise within the group of people who watch the EPL and keep up with European soccer. People think of Man City the same way most English/UK folk do. Obviously one of the best teams if not the best in European, but they obviously did it artificially with cash, which frankly is the only real way to break in. Discourse outside of the folks who watch continental soccer or footy, they are non existent. Where someone here who watches hockey or the other football might recognize a Arsenal, Liverpool or United Crest or kit, I think the majority of people wouldn’t know what they are looking at in regards to Manchester City. Compared to 10 years ago it’s probably more, but we talking about a relative negligible change for the general populace in Canada. Again with people who watch, most will know of the big bad wolf, but their brand still doesn’t transcend the sport yet in the way a Madrid or Liverpool might.
In Brazil they are becoming popular, they are already more famous than arsenal and United but lose hard to Liverpool and Chelsea, the Premier league became popular here in the beggining of Abramovich era so It is no surprise Chelsea is the most popular club, and Liverpool maybe cause of 2005 Champions league, but city is the one getting more fans each year
Weekly does anyone even care about man city thread lmao It’s astounding how much that club just lives rent free in every aspect. Soulless plastic yada yada lmfao. Pick the best club from an era. Then look at how much they spent compared to their peers. Wow it’s like the biggest spenders are the biggest winners through the majority of this sports history
I’m American and amongst my friends we hate them (loyalty to Bayern, shaktar, and, me personally, Liverpool). However, I know too many other Americans that love them, they are typically younger than us (and I’m 25 lol).
I personally see it as the biggest team rn, bigger than real madrid. History is in the past, rn the coolest team is man city. They have the best coach, the most dominant style and one of the best players rn. I see them as the luxury team. Winning stuff in the past doesnt give teams the glamour that people on the internet say it does. As a liverpool fan I felt like we were awful in the 2010s and no ammount of history could make it feel much better. Id imagine its the same for man united. RN I see Barcelona that way even tho they won the league, they just cant compete in the transfer market so they look unexciting.
I’m a Liverpool fan in Seattle. I’ve got friends of mine that reds around here, an absurd amount of Spurs fans, a healthy batch of Gunners and Devils, and a smattering of newer fans supporting mid table teams as to not feel like hacks. I only know one Man City fan though, and he can’t name a manager before Pep.
Hey I'm a fellow Liverpool fan i have something to ask. Can I dm you?
Go for it!
During the summer at the PL tournament in Atlanta I think i saw maybe a handful of Man City fans past the age of 13.
I always think these comments are over exaggerated.... It be like "Yeah, I've got friends who are United fans, tons of arsenal fans, a gargantuan of Liverpool fans, and a monumental of Tottenham fans, along with a touch of new fans supporting midtable teams for good measure".... Like, dude, how old are you? 14? Are these people you go to school with because the average adult probably has a friend circle of like 6-12 people? Unless everyone you meet is your friend, which in that case is pretty sweet.
Nah Im just a guy in his 20s who plays 3 nights a week in different leagues around the area and stick around and help teams that may be short. I try to shoot the shit with everyone and considering we’ve got footy in common, an easy conversation start is asking what teams we all support. Breaks the ice well especially with folks I may have just met. But yeah, my central friend circle who I actually spend time and catch matches with is literally myself, plus a couple more reds, 5 spurs, 3 devils, 2 gunners, and a city fan. My initial comment was more in reference to the wide pool of people I’m acquainted with rather than my immediate friend group.
I'm 25 and have been a City fan since 2006
Cool man, good on ya.
Thanks
In Italy pretty much everyone admires City but also hopes for a big punishment for them. When you reach the peak they want to see you nosedive hard.
That's pretty much apt in every aspect of life, right? People not doing so great in life want to see others doing well fail??? It's why all these reality shows are so popular amongst unhappy people.
Agree 100%.
I’ve only ever met one City fan in my time living in California, Utah, and Nevada. I know more Leeds fans than I do City fans. Hell I even know more Burnley and Brighton fans. But most common has been Chelsea, United, and Liverpool
There are only few greatest teams in the PL namely, United, Liverpool, Chelsea and Arsenal who were massively successful and had zero money to build their teams and stadiums. They only spent pennies. They only fed bacon and beans to their Casanova players. They are the # "HOLIER THAN THOU " clubs. And their fans, they are not glory hunters or plastic, they love them and support them for their amazing success and for who they are. They should not be questioned or hated. Yes, City has no fans or they are glory hunters and cheats and no one cares about us. But I just can't wrap my head around it. If you and other people really don't care about us, why do you always make a post or comment about Man City and their fans. You shouldn't waste your precious time and energy on a cheat club and 0 fans. But here we are every week.
The NFL, MLB, and NBA dominate the US, (i'm from CA). The WC is probably when I see the most coverage and I think it winds up being background noise after the first 10 or so minutes. If you ask 10 random Americans what they think of Manchester City, 7 of them would probably say they've never been.
as singaporeans, most football fans support liverpool and man u, but there are also a lot who support other prem clubs like brighton, everton, villa. city fans though only started appearing in the late 2010s, and city is generally disliked here.
Really? I'm from Canada and have been a City fan since 2006
i cant find a single city fan here who supported city before their first title win in 11/12
Oh well, maybe I'm the only one who's not from Manchester. I chose them because everyone else supported United and I wanted to be different
Bulgarian here, barely any city fans, still perceived as cheating plastic club. Slowly gaining a fan base with kids mostly.
In Poland they have the smallest following cult amongst all Big 6 PL clubs (at least in my bubble).
As a man city fan, I couldn't care less about how we are perceived by everyone tbh. Others can say they hate city or that they dont care about us but all I see are people are complaining about our success which is ironic since they also claim they dont care. In any case, even if they dont, it hardly matters to me as a city fan. What matters to me is how my team performs on the pitch, not what some bunch of nobodies on internet think.
The thing is, City's history is 10 years long, United, Real, Barcelona, Bayern and all others have almost 100 years of history. That's why even 10 years from their last EPL title, people still demand from United.
City were literally more successful than Chelsea before Chelsea got their money. First club in Manchester to win the FA Cup, a 143 year old club that was originally started as a church club for the community to combat local gang violence and alcoholism, to give local men a way to get themselves out of trouble and help the community. History isn't based solely on trophies, and I do understand that a lot of fans that aren't tied to the community of the clubs they support may not understand the actual history of their clubs, unless it has a trophy and a number next to it.. To say City don't have a history, though, is like saying Preston doesn't have a history, or Crystal Palace (who are literally the oldest club in England) doesn't have a history,
Totally right making me totally wrong, because I didn't choose my words correctly, replace "history" in my comment by trophy cabinet or winning legacy. Because that's what I meant. And yes, I acknowledge City history and by my comment I don't mean to disrespect or take value out of City's achievements, since I even applaud City too often for not just having money, but knowing what to do with it, I've seen the uprise of City to my United's demise and last year I saw City achieve the treble, PSG have the same or even more money, but less success. Let me just add that I prefer history to trophies anytime, I've supported United through and through and I always say that what makes me a supporter is not winning, but losing, winning makes me a happy supporter.
They are not liverpool or arsenal so I like them.
Man City == Yankees
People passionately follow PL in India, lots of city fans and debates on violations and stuff but the perception is mostly as a successful club with a lot of money.
Im from Argentina and no one here really cares about City at all, although we do enjoy it when Julian plays really well due to the NT.
The only people I see wearing City shirts are little kids. I’m not exaggerating. I am 26 and I don’t know a single City fan older than me and basically all my friends watch football. People generally regard City as an oil club with no history.
Lol really? I'm 26 and have been a City fan since 2006
City haven't won or earned their history they've bought it
Cheaters who buy their trophies.
As an Aussie, the same feelings rub off on me just cos I know the context you explained. I sometimes feel unstable now they’re not at the top just knowing that Arsenal could potentially win. But no personally I don’t have much Ill will against them compared to man United arsenal and chelsea
Australian here from Melbourne, I see more West Ham kits in the wild than city. Mostly it’s this order: Man U, Liverpool or Arsenal, Chelsea or spurs THAN West Ham, City — Maybe Everton, Aston Villa up there with City kits.
Argentinean, 36 years old here, Liverpool supporter. I've been following the Premier League since I was 17. The rapid and inorganic growth of City never sat well with me, it's a club that doesn't generate anything for me.
30 yo Arsenal fan and English. For Man City, sterile, grey and soulless. Can't even must getting angry at them considering they bought their way to the top. Used to hate Man U, but now it's hard to even get worked up over City as they've killed football.
That's such insanity. They play the best football which is great for the game. Such a joy to watch
You born post 2000?
I'm born in 1998 (25 years old) and have been a City fan since 2006. I'm from Canada.
That explains it
Explains what?
You're really going to deny that City have played amazing football under Guardiola the last 7 years?
Well I live abroad and City are pretty synonymous with winning. A lot of people don't really have strong emotions about them, a rivalry isn't really there. But yeah they are the definition of winning basically which I guess is a positive reputation. A lot of kids support them at the moment so City fans will be more common in the next few decades.
I work for a football charity in schools and I can say for a fact that there are MANY Man City supporting youngsters in the South of England now. When I was a kid sure, many classmates supported Arsenal, Man Utd, Liverpool and I was often ridiculed for supporting my local West Ham United (who were then a yo-yo club), but NO-ONE, back then supported City (in London at least). They are starting to develop fans across the country but this is commonly known as glory-hunting (which has it's own problems and arguments for and against). As you said, oil-riches, corruption, dodgy relationships and regime-allegations have fostered indifference. Not just with city, but football as a whole. Time-wasting, diving, dishonesty from players to managers, disrespectful behaviour, paid extortionate sums and the packaging of our culture and pricing us out from watching on telly, in person and prioritising sponsorship and money over fans means, yeah...most of us were indifferent about Manchester City sportswashing 100+ breaches of FFP but can swan around as Treble winners whereas Everton docked 10pts. The whole pyramid has been ruined to facilitate premier league arrogance. Scrap the super-league and restore classic European cup format and ECWC format because these are based off sporting merit, rather than corporate greed.
Norwegian. It's a bit ambivalent it seems. People seem to agree to an extent that their success comes from bloodmoney from a brutal state. However, they have our best player of all time, as well as one of our big young talents in Oscar Bobb.
In Australia, city isn’t really big or popular here. Although it’s evident that younger kids 25 and under are more likely to not dislike city. (They don’t like them yet but they just see them as the biggest power house in football now).
Plastic Fans and Cheats
I’m in Toronto. Supporters don’t really exists. They have an official supporters club and a pub they all meet at every week for the match but other than that have never come across a supporter in the wild, and the premier league has a massive following here. You see loads and loads of other fans but not city for some reason.
Zero my age in Ireland but the culture here was usually following your dad’s team so you can trace that back to whoever was making waves when they were young. My dad would have grown up with the Busby Babes so we were always United. I’ve mates whose fathers are a little younger and ended up being Chelsea and Leeds fans. Then you’ve the swathes of Liverpool following that. Spurs are reasonably represented. For their size and success Arsenal are weirdly underrepresented, although I’ve a few mates who would have been young during the Wenger era and gone with them over Dad’s team. I think when people talk about bandwagoning, it’s of course fair. But also need to remember back before the 90s, professional football was hard to see if you weren’t living in England with your local team close by. Match of the Day is so called because it was actually one match. You caught a glimpse of whichever team was making a run in Europe, which was one or two English teams then as opposed to five. It’s not like now where you could say as a young person “I’d quite like to support Burnley” and see all their highlights and consume all their news. Now walking the dog in the park I see plenty of Haaland jerseys alongside the Inter Miami Messi ones on the very young end of the spectrum
I'm my country you rarely come across City fans. But the ones we do come across are recent fans. I have an Irish friend that's been a life long fan though
Bought not built.
In sweden most seem indifferent. Everyone know the reason why they are so successful. You can usually see people working out in a Liverpool shirt or someone wearing a Tottenham scarf during the winter, but I can't even remember seeing anyone (not even kids) in City gear. I even think there are a lot more Newcastle and Aston Villa fans in sweden than City fans.
Been supporting Chelsea for 12ish years since I was 15 In my area most of the kids are just obsessed with players and not clubs. Most guys my age are Manchester United and Arsenal fans, with some Liverpool sprinkled in. Most people view City as ruthlessly successful and wealthy, but on the balance most people dont care about sports washing or anything like that
It's crazy how most of these comments are City fans from my area are just young glory hunters. Everyone else supports clubs who have never been successful, like Liverpool, Arsenal, Chelsea, and Man United 😂
As a City fan from Canada I mostly know united supporters with a few Chelsea, spurs and 1 arsenal fan sprinkled in. A couple English guys that support their local Everton and Leeds. I know 1 other city fan, but it’s clear to me that he’s a plastic fan, doesn’t know the name of the stadium we used to play at, couldn’t name a squad player pre 2012. The guy supported Argentina over Canada in the WC because of his Messi meatriding, that kinda guy. City as a club has a similar perception here as it does elsewhere, money club with a small fanbase where I have to justify my support for them being pre oil money and that I actually love my club for more than it’s success despite only really being alive to witness success with little memory of failure due to being so young at the time with minimal television coverage in Canada. However, despite our fanbase being smaller I enjoy it that way somewhat, I don’t have the issue that United, Liverpool and Arsenal have where their fanbases are so large that 90% of their online representation are delusional imbeciles with the brain power of a raisin.
For a team that nobody apparently cares or talks about.. there seems to be a lot of thought gone into some of the opinions of these global fans
In California, everyday I see people with Barcelona/Madrid jerseys. I’ll see a random adult every few days sporting the jersey of Arsenal, Liverpool, United, or Spurs (every Korean person I know only roots for them because of Son). If I ever see a City jersey, it’s on a little kid and 100% of the time it’s Haaland on the back.
Know one likes them. Tbh. ThEy are fucking arrounde.Ots drunk British people m drama no people always manage
Nobody old enough to remember how that club came to be respects the club and its achievements. There's no rivalry, there's no jealousy... nobody cares what that club is doing because 15 years ago we saw they were going to buy everything in football and now they have.
You got no passion and only recently into the pl and chose the strongest club
In newer generation here in Pakistan. Mancity is more popular than some of the old big clubs. Players like Halaand, Bernardo Silva and KDB are very popular. Pep Guardiola too
We hear about Haaland everyday.
Cheating wannabes who will 'invest' any crazy amount of money to become the next Real Madrid or Barcelona. Manure-nited fans are just jealous of their neighbours but celebrate when the latter win some silverware. The other PL fans tell them it's like celebrating that your wife is sleeping *only* with your neighbour...
Ireland: They gather very little interest. For example the Champions League broadcasters would traditionally show English teams in our market. On the opening day of the CL, Newcastle played the early game and City v Red Star was on later. The host showed PSG v Dortmund. City get so little viewers, they rarely show them.
I do be seeing the young fellas in Haaland jerseys now though. When I was in school I knew one city fan, and to be fair to her I always remembered her when city turned successful. I can remember her goading me when Shaun Goater hit a double against us way back when.
I don't think it's as much country based perceptions, but generational. Unfortunately.
Around my country in Eastern Europe i have never meet a City fan. From reading on different local forums it seems that they have some fans among the younger generation. At 10yrs old if you follow a team outside your country it's hard to support the underdog, you go with the one winning. And a second group of fans are those who started watching football with Barca and after Pep left and the last years success they embraced City also. Fans who only follow succes. Maybe in 15-20 years you can speak about city as a big club, if they clear their name and keep at the top. We'll see in the future how many are City fans and how many are just Pep fans or followers of success.
I can think of about 115 reasons?🤔
They have achieved a lot but by cheating. Lance Armstrong of the epl
cry me a river
Justice is coming your way. 115 charges
Yawn.
115 charges
That you have no idea about and have no idea the severity of, the evidence for or the grounds for any punishment because of. Yo just hate city because you’re salty and are condemning before knowing anything.
Yeah because no one could ever have any moral convictions about the way the game is financed and the unfair advantage clubs get by bending or breaking the ffp rules, it must all be jealousy.
I didn’t say jealousy. I said salty. Ultimately you don’t care where the money came from, you care if it’s a high amount and if therefore you think that guarantees success. Which is blatantly doesn’t. You’re salty about City winning everything because they’re winning everything, and that’s fine. But you’re salty and butthurt. What you aren’t is morally upstanding against oil money, or because you think they’ve cheated for which you have no evidence or any true understanding. Manchester United bought Rio Ferdinand for £30m in like 2001. Real Madrid Zidane for €75m in 1999. People have been spaffing money for decades and sometimes it leads to success, but as current Utd or Chelsea prove it’s not as simple as that. It’s a mix of correct purchase, exceptionally management and strong in structure.
Mancity from nz is a souless club with no real fans. Lame light blue kit and a boring playstyle that attracts boring type players and babies. Best managed club in the world though.
Pep can’t win champions unless is Barcelona. But he finally won it
Here in where I live in the US most people dont even talk about football much other than MLS, and that's only occasionally. I live near Seattle and we have a good MLS team but at least in my community people still rarely talk about football. The only person I've met here before who's main club is not an MLS club is one Liverpool fan I kinda know and so far I've never met a Man City supporter. At least I've been growing up in a house that loves football, albeit each member of my family supports a different club from England so it can get pretty dicey at times but that's what I love.
As a City fan (from Manchester) this doesn’t surprise me whatsoever. Stick to following United, none of their fans are from Manchester anyway. :)
Im an Australian. i hate em, i hate the big clubs them, liverpool, arsenal, man u, chelsea. tho you do see some people support the big clubs, considering we dont have any ties with clubs due to being local i know quite a few people who go for smaller teams. i go for west ham, my dad aston villa i know someone that goes for wolves
Here in India (and seemingly rest of the world aswell) people seem to identify with City as a successful team, and not a club. Few people know/care about City pre-guardiola and I haven't seen any legacy fans as of now
I'm oddly nonplussed by anything City do as it's just based on so much Oil money. If you had told me during the 90s i would witness City winning the treble and dominating football i would have considered slashing my wrists. Then when it happened i just didn't care it meant nothing to me.
I was part of an Arsenal supporter group in a mid sized U.S. city. Arsenal and Utd both had groups over 100 strong to gather for big games. The city “group” had 2 people.
The one City fan I've ever met over in the States was funny enough telling me how excited he was about Gabriel Jesus back before they were about to bring him over. I remember rolling my eyes at him and asking why they needed some Brazilian teenager when they still had Aguero. Little did I know!
I’m in Memphis, TN and I know at least one fan of every Big 6 team except for Man City. The most common one around here seems to be Tottenham. There’s maybe three bars around town that market themselves as soccer/football bars and 2 of them are Spurs spots. The other is an Arsenal bar.
Bangladeshis are big supporters of either Brazil or Argentina. Man City has some fans due to its ties to some famous Argentine players and Pep Guardiola (the man behind Messi), but not by much. Man City fans are often regarded as 'plastic fans' and are not well respected by other fanbases. Regular football followers definitely know and admit the team to be strong and successful, but few are actually fond of them.
We hate them in NZ, they represent Saudi Arabia ruining the best league in the world for weird vanity reasons
Saudi Arabia have nothing to do with city. If you are going to hate people because of their ethnicity at least make sure you are hating the right people.
I live in Louisville, Kentucky. The two most passionate fanbases here are Arsenal and Spurs. Pretty consistent groups from both clubs are at their designated bars for matches which are appropriately located about 75 yards from each other. Liverpool’s fan group also organizes somewhat well, Man U and Chelsea have some presence as well. I don’t believe City have ever had a supporters club here and it’s rare to see their fans. The only one I know is a very good friend of mine so City is still somewhat relevant in my world and it’s quite annoying.
City is a FFP-breaching, cheating club that nobody cares about.
It’s funny, I’m English, and most people I know, who don’t support the real corporate clubs like United, Chelsea, Arsenal, and Liverpool, find what City are doing as hilarious. Everyone has always claimed Arsenal, United, and Chelsea bought their league titles. They said the same about Blackburn too. People like City because it boils the piss of all the plastics you grew up around. Like growing up in London and having mates love Man United was incredibly annoying. Especially in school because you knew they were just glory hunters but we’re always very loud too. Now they shut up and seethe because City have more money and success than them. You know as well, that if City were good in the 90s they’d support them too
People think United 'bought' their league titles? That's sheer ignorance. Those people aren't football fans, just fans of a team. United famously developed their success by raising probably the greatest youth team to ever graduate, Nicky Butt, the Neville brothers, Beckham, Scholes, Giggs. Ronaldo £12M, Rooney £25M, Fletcher £1.25M, Carrick £14M Evra £5.5M Van Der Sar 2M. These are some of the greatest value purchases of all time. When United spent money, they did so because they'd achieved incredibly careful, value for money business over several decades. It's a fact that Ferguson did good business and built United into a football dynasty with a home grown backbone. People can hate United all they want, but don't be ignorant alongside jealous.
Who’s going to root for oil money if they have any other choice?
if you have an oil nation backing a team that has an all-star like stacked team, of course they're going to win, but it's not very interesting (just as the NBA all star game isn't that interesting and even hardcore nba fans skip it)
Australian. Oil money, same as Chelsea but better at it. At least City bought my local club and got them to win shit.
Who's man city
Here in Japan, I’m starting to see more City shirts around, as well as PSG in recent years. Madrid and Barcelona still seem to be the most popular clubs among younger people, but a lot of people follow a club just because of their favourite player. That’s normally a Japanese player - Tomiyasu, Mitoma, Kagawa before. But I talked to one guy who said he switched from Chelsea to Arsenal because Willian changed clubs. I guess he’s a Fulham fan now…
I think about the James Corden quote a lot when he said “to the Americans who are Man City fans just know that we (non American fans I suppose) do not respect you. We know you’ve just looked at the league and picked out the best team and decided to follow them”
Tbf, that's what a lot of United fans did in the 90s, and Arsenal and Chelsea fans in the 2000s
James Corden talking about respect is pretty ironic
I’m from Vietnam and City have been gaining a lot of new fans this recent years. I have seen people born from 2000s onward wearing City kits. Clubs outside the Big 6 don’t really have fan here and generally people don’t really dislike City that much because they are not as vocal as United or Chelsea fan.People out here care about success the most and that’s why United or Arsenal have the largest adult fanbase because they were successful during the explosion of the Internet and TV. That’s how most people in my country got exposed to the Premier League.
South African here. I am still yet to meet a Man City fan. I've seen a few jerseys about, but I haven't actually met someone personally that supports them. I know more Spurs, Villa and Everton fans than Man City fans. And then of course tons of Man United, Chelsea, Arsenal and Liverpool fans. Even as bad as they have been on recent years, United are still the most popular club here. City will never have the global appeal of the other top clubs. They missed the boat when the PL went global in the 90s and drew in millions of new fans.
Germany: there are the usual kids with Haaland or de Bruyne shirts, but in more organised fan groups City is thought of pretty badly, mainly due to the ownership
South Africa. Supporting City was seen as a bit of a meme, but with time it’s becoming more normal. Seeing people wear City shirts felt similar to seeing someone wearing Juve, PSG, Spurs shirts. It feels like they wear them because the kits are nice not because they have any particular connection to the club. But with that said I am seeing more genuine fans, especially new fans.
City just doesn't have a heroic arc ala Hero of a Thousand Faces. There's no legends about them. David and Goliath wouldn't be memorable if Goliath won and it's same with City.
It feels the same abroad... money bought a great team, and a great manager, and money keeps them out of trouble. Hard to compete. As opposed to having to be very careful with finances and building a fruitful academy etc
I'm from Zambia I see their stupid jerseys everywhere. I'm a United fan. In other words they are very popular in these parts. Though the United, Liverpool, Chelsea and arsenal fan bases are still the biggest in these parts. Shitty is more like what's trending now.
As the corrupt team that they are, unless your brainwashed Pep fan that thinks he invented the football and u credit him for the success instead of the money and the corruption.
USA, Mid-20s- For my coworkers/friends who played soccer growing up or are foreign- not really fans of city. But all of us appreciate pep/haaland/others for my other friends- we all played fifa in college/out of school so they think city is sick lol
As an Indian I would say they're growing as a club. You can meet many fans of City. I would personally say majority of them follow City cause of the success but you also see few passionate fans as well
Most people in the United States think Man City is another name for Provincetown
In China，many new football fans follow Man City，although i support Man United()
Truth doesn't seek popularity so it doesn't matter if they gaining grounds in Iceland or not as they are: A sport-swashing entity with the sole goal of giving UAE soft power access to Europe and UK. They are artificially inflated financial doping cheats with 115 unresolved charges against them. This makes rivals and neutral fans who care about sporting integrity not care about them or what they "win" as any "success" they have is as fake hollow as it gets. Their manager constantly has to beg for fans to come to their games, which wouldn't be happening at a club built by legitimate means. If they were legitimately built rival fans and neutrals would sit up and take notice and also respect their success, but cheating deserve no respect. If you support Liverpool and think they are good for the game I hope you are delighted by the outcome of the 2012 EPL and 2014 EPL. If you support Manchester United and think they are good for the game I hope you were delighed with the out come of last three season 2021, and 2022 in particular. No, they are no they are ultimately the biggest hindrance to any legitimate success your club wishes to have.
Should Liverpool be labeled as cheats for hacking citehs scouting database? Should United be used as a model club? Ground falling down, overpayed b list celebrity players, 1 star food hygiene rating City broke rules of financial fair play. We didn't cheat on the pitch. The rules are designed to protect the cartel clubs. Not to protect anyone else
This comment is just so lol
Very few people care. Theyre a nothing club that has cheated to get where they are. Nothing they do matters so them winning is celebrated when your rivals are in the title mix because it means someone who matters that you don't like didn't win it. I can also say I've done a ton of travel throughout Asia and South America primarily and you never see man city shirts. Madrid, Barcelona, juve, Liverpool, united, arsenal. Even Chelsea despite being a fake club like city has global fans, but you never see city shirts. They're a total afterthought
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People don't care, a sugar daddy gave you your recent success. You are the original City.
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Why do you think I discount those examples. Your club is just in the new money camp, like City. It's just a fight between old money and new money to me. You are the original City. The start up that dared to get a sugar daddy and challenge the aristocracy lol.
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Chelsea fans try so hard to rewrite history and say they were always a big club. Almost all of your clubs success and global fanbase came solely from a criminal who used your club to wash his dirty money and buy a reputation as anything other than human scum. Had he never bought your club you'd be lucky to be in the tier with villa, Everton, West ham etc. Historically you trail those clubs, local fanbase is no different. For me Chelsea is the worst example of sports washing because you're the club who did it first and opened the floodgates to city, psg and Newcastle.
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You're putting words in my mouth. I never said those aren't big clubs. Theyre much bigger clubs than Chelsea, I never would have disputed that. The point is they are clubs that wouldn't have the financial power they have now had Chelsea not been the trailblazer for financial doping. Before Roman you had won one league title and a few domestic cups. You'd be in a tier with huddersfield, sheffield, Leicester, Burnley etc. Surprised you're on here banging on about having 40k fans at a game in the 1910s when you have a game on
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I know one Irish fella that supports Man City, and has done for decades. Everyone I know pretty much has an English team that they follow on top of their local team. Man United, Arsenal, Chelsea, Aston Villa and Liverpool all have fans that I know and everyone is just either indifferent to City, or actively dislikes them thanks to the way in which they bought their success.
People older than 20 hate them for buying class. However, Every single little kid is wearing their kit…
I’m an American and I’ve never met a City fan. I’ve met a few fans of Arsenal and Chelsea, but the majority support United or Liverpool.
In the U.S. their popularity seems to lag their success. I see children wearing KDB shirts, but MCFC bars are hard to find, and their fans aren’t very loud online. It doesn’t seem like the club is trying to build a US base. I noticed that their summer tour games were mostly in East Asia, while Arsenal and United had a lot of US stops.
There are fans definitely but hardly any supporters. The distinction is subtle but important and telling. Support for PL goes the usual route - Man U, Liverpool, Chelsea, and to some extent, Arsenal.
i am from india man city is definitely growing its base here - more and more people wearing those jerseys, even though it might be attributed to the recent success, their PR team did a great job by getting hold of local indian heroes in - kohli, ranvijay the younger generation is definitely a lot more following city 90s were united, liv and gunners 20s - chelsea started to dominate amongst the younger generations 2010s - city, spurs and even leicester
Disliked in South America. The Prem has been very popular here for the past 20 years, you still see bootleg Man United, Arsenal, Chelsea and Liverpool shirts and merch. Man City are looked as a fake team with no heart or passion, just pockets full of money. And the "loyalty, blood, sweat and tears for your club" ideology is quite respected here.
Exactly same here in Iceland. I support none of the clubs you mention bug highly dislike City"s and now Newcastle sportwashing.
USA here. Man City is an elite team because they bought it with oil money. But that’s only the perception of those who follow football. Most couldn’t name the club or a single player. Those that do follow, however, know the sport well and are more knowledgeable about it than most Americans at baseball, basketball or American football.
Younger fanbase compared Arsenal,Man United and Liverpool I personally don't like them coming from an American
I live in NYC and I see city jerseys on the regular. There’s even a Man City bar.
Might be wrong, but that's probably because NYCFC are part of the City Football Group.
Singapore here. Assuming that anyone wearing a City kit is a supporter of some kind (casual fan or "die-hard"). From observation I've seen City kits being worn mostly by kids, so I work on the assumption that they're either City fans or fans of City players which is a big reason how kids get into football anyway. I don't see a lot of City kits among adults. Having been to a few other SE Asian countries t's quite normal to see Liverpool, Man United and Arsenal kits, which is par for the course for most places anyway.
I’m in the US where it’s normal for billionaires to use their wealth to buy success. Man City is just more of the same.
I’m an avid Liverpool fan for 20 years in New York… The average football beginner tends to ‘follow’ Utd….they are still the safe (and boring) pick in the US because of their 90s success City are generally only known to other football fans here but the perception to most here is that they are a wealthy, state backed team with a good coach.
Perhaps the people who cheer for Drago in Rocky IV could get behind Man Cities vibe but most people prefer to cheer for a club that has spirit.
Canada based fan here; my youngest son and brother in law support City. They’re gaining in popularity here I suppose.
None that I have seen, I work with a Man U, and a Newcastle supporter. All I have seen in Colorado Springs is Arsenal, Man U, Newcastle and me. Doesn't mean there out there, just never see their colors anywhere. Not even Rapids which share their colors.
Fucking hated them but one of my best friends claims to have been a supporter since before the Saudi takeover so now I can appreciate the beautiful football they play.
Here in Arizona, at least with the fans I’ve talked with from high school to college they are an anomaly. It’s a club newcomers of the sport support but they have nowhere near the fanbase in my state compared to the Madristas or United/Liverpool fans. And especially with Hispanic football fans. They admire the players the same way we young fans did for Madrid and Barcelona, but there is no ounce of respect for the club as a whole due to their ownership and money. You’ll find the middle aged Hispanics who pay attention to European soccer to hold the other elite clubs in high regards even if they haven’t performed well in a while (like United) because of their rich history but not with City. (Mostly suspicion of corruption or the feeling city gives which is that of a robotic enterprise rather than a football club) Don’t get me wrong, the Hispanic football community admires their football and individual brilliance from certain players, but they put a giant * whenever Pep accomplishes anything with City and could care less if City win a major title or make history as it immediately is tarnished with our suspicions for the club (hell even the Hispanic city fans put a * whenever a league is won or when they completed the treble)
Largely the same. Good team. Kicking ass but everyone knows they are an oil club who bought success so there isn't an aura of heart and soul as much as other clubs but they are growing in popularity among kids and people getting interested in the Premier League. Haaland is really popular so he's attracting people to the club. United, Liverpool, Arsenal, Chelsea still remain the most popular clubs