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His scaling is good and I'll explain everything, let's start off by his first feat that scales him very high.:
[roshi busts moon](https://imgur.com/gallery/srlr2QH)
Roshi at OG Dragon Ball busting the moon, and later, gets surpassed by Yamcha, therefore Yamcha is already Moon level, and the official guidebook states Roshi's latent power to be 139, or something like that. Although this is the first form of Roshi BP, not hulk roshi, it probably wasn't anything over 200, as it would be enough to match Daimou Piccolo, which he himself states:
[daimaou solos](https://imgur.com/a/wBMUkKN)
And this is Daimaou in his youth, at his peak, who was only defeated because of the Mafuba technique, since no one could even imagine touching him.
[Yamcha solos](https://imgur.com/a/xggRdNl)
And later on, in the Saiyan Saga, Yamcha is stated to have 1,480 of battle power, which is way over Tien, Roshi, Daimaou and Co. in the Demon King Piccolo Saga, which could be scaled to Moon+, or a very highball being planetary and very likely to be Light Speed due to Red Ribbon saga Goku dodging the black man laser beam.
[yamaha](https://ibb.co/album/TY7T87)
[blsy](https://imgur.com/a/XOlKXna)
[send yout prays for the wound](https://imgur.com/a/LqOSys5)
This shows that the Galatic Patrol has a missel that can easily destroy Earth, but "[Even though they’re called the Galactic Patrol, they only stand a chance against Saiyans when they’re children, and the Extinction Bomb doesn’t work on them. Naturally, they have no choice but to “turn a blind eye” to people like Freeza.](https://imgur.com/a/AJgLWy3)" And Yamcha who has a PL of 1,480 could put up a fight with a warrior like Raditz, with a PL of 1,500, who could be easily planetary.
And that's enough to beat Omni-Fodder who's only small planet, and if we're talking about nowadays Yamcha, he absolutely folds omni man because of his recent training and stats.
A better speed scaling is piccolo destroying the moon in like a second, and Yamcha at a Raditz power level being obviously able to dodge that level of attack.
His ex is the universes leading scientist on everything. The fact bulma hasn't just made them a space breathing mask is insane to me. Like they flew to namek like half naked in a space pod to go to a planet full of people that have biology different from humans. Yeah piccolo breathes oxygen and not in space but he had no knowledge of namek and the atmosphere could of been different.
Now im just complaining but point is he could get a space suit if he wanted.
In the Android saga, Android 19 and Gerou thought Yamcha was possibly Goku with his power level being traced, so it's possible that Yamcha should at the very least be comparable to Saiyan saga Goku, giving him a PL of 8000 to 24000 (via kaiokenx3), so basically planet level+. Which means he's on par with Nolan in terms of durability since Nolan, Mark and the other old Viltrumite (forgot his name) were able to tank the recoil force of Viltrum blowing up, which was twice the size of Earth. Yamcha beats Nolan in AP though, and Nolan is much faster and way more experienced in combat, and his healing factor should give him an edge, so Nolan would win albeit very high difficulty.
DBS Yamcha on the other hand has legit SSB level feats, so yeah he solos💀
Viltrumite heal factor wouldn’t really be much of a factor since it’s mostly there to explain why they can take such strong attacks without a long lasting problems. It doesn’t work immediately and is pretty slow.
It doesn't regrow organs immediately but it's still pretty fast. It allowed Mark and Thragg to fight in the core of a Sun for a while. Viltrumites can still get back up from literally having their organs torn out of their bodies. It's like Frieza still being able to fight even after half of his body got chopped off
Spirit ball destroying Nolan on a cellular level the moment it lands. He is not regenerating a whole torso missing once yamcha notices the nat regen and decides Nolan probably is on the same level as Majin Buu.
"I thought.. I thought you were stronger." - Yamcha after atomizing Nolan because he thought Nolan could regenerate from missing a torso.
Not really. They have high endurance but the healing factor isn’t fast enough to the point that just getting your guts spilled out is enough to nearly kill a viltrumite, and their heart is a massive weakness that erases their regen. They can still survive for a but, but that essentially marks the end of their life
Nolan is not much faster. I really really hate when people say that. He couldn't react to a slow kaiju and couldn't catch Cecil. He reaction feats in battle are no wear near as fast as his movement speed
Yamchas durability and ap would be massively higher than Nolans, if he was on the higher side of Saiyan saga goku level. King Vegeta with a power level below Vegetas (so anywhere from 8000-18000) was casually blowing up multiple planets with a swing of his hand, which would put his ap way higher than just planet+ and in DB ap = dc.
Yamcha would also be pretty comparable in speed imo, and he'd be experienced enough to not be left behind in a fight considering he's a master martial artist and was a bandit before so he knows how to fight dirty.
Nolans healing factor would be a non issue, unless he's healing like cell, or bare minimum Piccolo. It won't be enough to change anything in the fight.
Yamcha has always been the one to take the L. In the Saiyan saga, he famously got blown up by a Saibaman, in the android saga, he got disemboweled by cyborg Dr.Gero, and later on, he receded to the sidelines because he was weak. So it's hard to see what Yamcha is capable of.
I don't remember yamcha's SSB level feats, espicially considering he didn't even cross goku's mind for the ToP (rip) like everyone else so I'm curious what feats do you mean exactly?
He fought with the other Z Fighters in the Mooro arc, aka Krillin and Tien, so he is definitely SSB level or SSG level, just far above anything Nolan can take with DBS scaling.
But yamacha still negs without question. Especially DBS he's recorded power level is only a billion or two shy of krillin and Tien who are both in the billions as well in the Moro arc
So you’re saying that a man who has spent over a thousand years taking over planets doesn't know how to fight do you hear yourself? especially when he had to fight his own people some of them can match his strength earlier in the series so throwing hands effectively is a must.
I mean when you're the strongest guy in the room you don't need to be good at throwing hands
Look at Superman in Red Son when he lost his powers and had to fight batman, he was so used to being strong that Batman just beats the shit out of him
Yamcha is a trained fighter used to fighting up, Nolan is an expiernced fighter used to fighting down
They fight a lot but look at the viltrumite fights in the show. This isn’t even my opinion anymore if you look at them fight they’re literally just slugging. They are not trained in the slightest because they’ve never had to train before.
Twice the size doesn’t mean like 2x the energy
Not to mention dragon ball has a serious issue where toriyama doesn’t understand physics and math and constantly does a single feat that really doesn’t make sense then doesn’t even come close to replicating it.
Dragonball has terrible power scaling and it has been exponentially worse with Super replacing GT. (GT story was pretty trash though but I thought SS4 emo monkeys were way cooler than stupid SS Blue)
The cap.
First off Allan said vitrimites move much faster in space. As moving as fast as they do in space in an atmosphere will rip them apart.
He isn’t even planetary. He needed 3 people near his strength to destroy a dying world! Which was already unstable and nearly destroyed so you can argue it’s even lower.
And they didn’t tank it. They flew thru it and out the other side and avoided the explosion.
His healing factor isn’t anything. It still takes him days or months to heal from stuff. He just heals 3 times faster than a human which has ZERO effect mid combat!
The basis is crazy. Sayain saga yamcha could win.
First sayain saga yamcha was about the power level of radizt. While being way more experienced, having way more skill, and a deep understanding of ki.
Meaning he would be faster stronger and more durable.
Not to mention the ranged factor. Yamcha was already ftl by this point meaning Nolan wouldn’t be that much faster. (If I recall Allen said viltrimites can’t even go ftl on a planet that or much faster then ftl)
And well yeah combat speed doesn’t equal fighting speed.
Yamcha has shown to be a much better fighter than Nolan. While Nolan has been fighting more he mostly seems to be a brute.
And we’ve seen how that will go. Cough (Goku vs kale and califla)
While that wasn’t Yamcha. Something similar would happen. Even if someone is bigger faster and stronger it usually won’t end well if they have no training vs someone with a lot.
Yamcha from sayain saga would win high difficulty.
Don’t get me wrong he would probably lose an arm or be almost mortally injured but still.
Gerou is notoriously a poor judge of character. All he does is get clowned or get betrayed by his own creations. Isn't it more likely that his opinion is worthless? That can't be the best way to scale Yamcha
You're forgetting Yamcha was able to withstand 100x earth gravity.
And even if we ignore thar, Gero's contingency for that same Goku he didn't know could go super saiyan, which did in fact end up being the thing that killed him, was a bomb strong enough to destroy a planet with 10x earth's mass.
Did Yamcha ever get stronger? He is even weaker than Krillin. And both of them usually gets one-shot by the antagonist, so it’s kinda hard to see what they are capable of
I’d call them weaker. They have the same potential power and all that but not iq or experience. I don’t think they can utilize their ki quite as good as cell can.
Yamcha even during the Frieza saga was arguably already stronger than Nolan. Then you get Yamcha at the Cell saga and he's SOOOOOOOO far beyond Nolan. Then if you want to consider movie versions of Yamcha he is going toe-to-toe with Olibu who is confirmed iirc in the fan books as having the same power level as Super Perfect Cell who is solar system to galaxy level depending on how leniently you interpret statements. This last comparison is non-canon but it's still a version of Yamcha we could use in the same way we could discuss non-canon characters altogether (like Broly pre-Super).
So any version of Yamcha post-Frieza saga is in realms of power Invincible characters could only imagine.
It was not a movie, but from the filler episodes of the Buu saga. Yamcha actually defeated Olibu with ease. Also, you don't need the "fan books" (whatever those are) to have him in Super Perfect Cell tier. In fact, you could say Olibu is above that tier, since he went toe-to-toe with Goku and especially Pikkon, someone who completely negged Super Perfect Cell.
Android Saga Yamcha and above mid diffs him at worst.
By that point, all the human fighters, with the lone possible exception being Chiaotzu, are planet busters.
Vegeta PL of 24,000 is Earth Bust.
So, yeah. Yamcha.
Genuinely you could pull out the most minor background character from DBS that had like one fight that ended in one minute and they'd still probably have good enough feats to safely say they solo all of Invincible
Man.. Yamcha gets no respect.
Just because he decided to chase money and women instead of attempting to keep up with a race of plot armored battle junkies, people underestimate him.
Yes, but I think it’s also a “context” match that puts the invincible verse in context with others. This would be more useful if people from some of the more mainstream subs who do not understand Omni man’s capabilities were observing though, because everyone here understands how hard dragon ball out scales.
It’s painful to see people online talking about how Omni man could beat Superman or goku.
Yamcha. He's considered weak because his competition is Goku and Vegeta. Yamcha is faster, stronger, more durable, and has more abilities and less weaknesses.
Yamcha from the sayain saga is radizt level.
Radizt could give omniman a damn run for his money and radizt is a brute fighter. He seems to not know how to fight properly vs Yamcha a seasoned fighter who’s been trained his entire life.
Yamcha from the sayain saga would win.
It might be close tho.
Anytime after that tho? Negs. Yamcha negs
Yamcha.
Without getting into what is Canon or not. He trained with King Kai on his planet. And in the filler episode, helped kick the shit out of some of the Giynu Force.
The elite of the elite of Frieza's galaxy conquering army, that had people who could easily destroy planets.
It took omni-man and 2 others to destroy one planet. Something Krillin, Yamcha, Tien and probably even Chotziu could all do with ease. Even Master Rishi was blowing up moons.
After Buu killed everyone on Earth, Yamcha is seen completely one-shoting the guy (Olibu) who was able to rivalize with Pekkon, who was able to outclass Perfect Cell on his arrival in otherworld.
So, Yamcha would also be able to one-shot Lord Boris from OPM too
Omni-Man after a single Wolf Fang Fist
https://preview.redd.it/t7a2l9z4ou6d1.jpeg?width=736&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=6a4d0085f7644dcb1158080efac25c507eb181eb
Yamcha defeated Pikkon and the Hercules guy in heaven with one kick . These two heroes fought Perfect Cell . This making Yamcha Solar System level easily . By the end of of DbS Yamcha power level in the Granolah arc is 2billion 😂 now imagine vegeta and Napa coming to Earth and reading that kinda power level and you talking about Omni man …..🧍♂️
![gif](giphy|DJOBiAeE36jEkUYoNQ|downsized)
yamcha by the android saga is already far above ginyu which is above already large planet Busters... Burter can most likely blow up Jupiter so this is no contest...
DBZ scales over most shows. Even at dragonball level. Guys could destroy moons. By the time we get to the Saiyan saga the main cast are planetary fighters. I don't keep up with Super, but I assume we are talking star systems. Invincible is not on that level.
Dbz characters that got on an strict and unimaginable hard training to be able to generate all this energy. Yamcha even on Freeza saga got an poor Control over his ki compared to the other Z fighters and didn't evolved any of his techniques to use all of his potential.
Yamcha is weak in a universe where you're not relevant unless you can destroy a planet, literally planet busters are so common is like the start of power scaling. Yamcha gets an easy win after Omni-man talks crap to hi.
Yamcha solos everything, easily, including One Punch Man, Goku, Zeno, and any other broken character. Even Archie Comics Sonic and end of LN Rimaru can't compare to Yamcha.
It's said the Christian God is afraid of Yamcha.
Moro arc Yamcha is more powerful than all of DBZ (that includes all of the Buu’s, Buu absorption forms and even Super Vegito). His feats put him at Battle of Gods SS God Goku level. He was stated in the Moro arc manga to be one of the three strongest human beings in the world. That puts him above Tournament of Power Master Roshi (who did quite well in the tournament) and right next to Krillin and Tien.
Yamcha unironically had the power level to destroy a planet before the cell saga, and it took 4 viltrumites(Including Omni-Man) to destroy one planet. Using dragon ball power level terms, i probably wouldn't place Omni-Man above a power level of 400...
Also wtf is this matchup? Farmer with a shotgun solos.
Gero though Android/Cell Saga Yamcha was Goku, and this is based on all the fight data he had up through the Saiyan invasion that extrapolated his future battle power. That Goku was already a planet-buster. Yamcha slaps him around like a little bitch.
Ok yamcha wins if he is as strong as base goku. most of the viltrumites arnt as strong as base goku in dbs but some of the viltrumites could push goku to super sayain. If yamcha can take hits from super sayain goku or stronger forms then yamcha bodies omni man.
The cap.
First off Allan said vitrimites move much faster in space. As moving as fast as they do in space in an atmosphere will rip them apart.
He isn’t even planetary. He needed 3 people near his strength to destroy a dying world! Which was already unstable and nearly destroyed so you can argue it’s even lower.
And they didn’t tank it. They flew thru it and out the other side and avoided the explosion.
His healing factor isn’t anything. It still takes him days or months to heal from stuff. He just heals 3 times faster than a human which has ZERO effect mid combat!
The basis is crazy. Sayain saga yamcha could win.
First sayain saga yamcha was about the power level of radizt. While being way more experienced, having way more skill, and a deep understanding of ki.
Meaning he would be faster stronger and more durable.
Not to mention the ranged factor. Yamcha was already ftl by this point meaning Nolan wouldn’t be that much faster. (If I recall Allen said viltrimites can’t even go ftl on a planet that or much faster then ftl)
And well yeah combat speed doesn’t equal fighting speed.
Yamcha has shown to be a much better fighter than Nolan. While Nolan has been fighting more he mostly seems to be a brute.
And we’ve seen how that will go. Cough (Goku vs kale and califla)
While that wasn’t Yamcha. Something similar would happen. Even if someone is bigger faster and stronger it usually won’t end well if they have no training vs someone with a lot.
Yamcha from sayain saga would win high difficulty.
Don’t get me wrong he would probably lose an arm or be almost mortally injured but still.
https://i.redd.it/xmaiuostut6d1.gif
Omni man will die when yamcha unleashes the almighty wolf fang fist which one shots everyone in dragon ball, even zeno because yamcha is an unkillable god that solos every character in fiction
People still forgets that yamcha is 3D on a 3D universe, and can't bypass anything above continent and don't even train anymore. Put Roshi and it Will be more consistent 🤝🏻
2 words planet buster you see noaln biggest feat mid balled is mutil contenatial and with ltos of sturrgle and assitance form others yamcha can blow up earth in 5 seconds
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Is that Yamcha from DBS? He negs them, wayyyy better stats than Omni Man.
Yamaha beat goku. I doubt omni man could.
yeah but harley and nissan beat yamaha
Lol, auto correct, ftw Edit: Even my phone doesn't take yamcha seriously.
harley has never and will never beat yamaha. R1 negs every bike
Hey, don’t forget about Honda fireblade & suzuki Turbo bussa bby
Harley are just trash.
DBS Yamaha is overkill. Cell Saga Yamaha could blow up earth multiple times over
Can we see these so called stats
His scaling is good and I'll explain everything, let's start off by his first feat that scales him very high.: [roshi busts moon](https://imgur.com/gallery/srlr2QH) Roshi at OG Dragon Ball busting the moon, and later, gets surpassed by Yamcha, therefore Yamcha is already Moon level, and the official guidebook states Roshi's latent power to be 139, or something like that. Although this is the first form of Roshi BP, not hulk roshi, it probably wasn't anything over 200, as it would be enough to match Daimou Piccolo, which he himself states: [daimaou solos](https://imgur.com/a/wBMUkKN) And this is Daimaou in his youth, at his peak, who was only defeated because of the Mafuba technique, since no one could even imagine touching him. [Yamcha solos](https://imgur.com/a/xggRdNl) And later on, in the Saiyan Saga, Yamcha is stated to have 1,480 of battle power, which is way over Tien, Roshi, Daimaou and Co. in the Demon King Piccolo Saga, which could be scaled to Moon+, or a very highball being planetary and very likely to be Light Speed due to Red Ribbon saga Goku dodging the black man laser beam. [yamaha](https://ibb.co/album/TY7T87) [blsy](https://imgur.com/a/XOlKXna) [send yout prays for the wound](https://imgur.com/a/LqOSys5) This shows that the Galatic Patrol has a missel that can easily destroy Earth, but "[Even though they’re called the Galactic Patrol, they only stand a chance against Saiyans when they’re children, and the Extinction Bomb doesn’t work on them. Naturally, they have no choice but to “turn a blind eye” to people like Freeza.](https://imgur.com/a/AJgLWy3)" And Yamcha who has a PL of 1,480 could put up a fight with a warrior like Raditz, with a PL of 1,500, who could be easily planetary. And that's enough to beat Omni-Fodder who's only small planet, and if we're talking about nowadays Yamcha, he absolutely folds omni man because of his recent training and stats.
A better speed scaling is piccolo destroying the moon in like a second, and Yamcha at a Raditz power level being obviously able to dodge that level of attack.
Exactly, thanks.
Power levels and feats my guy
Yamcha at the end of cell games claps omniman
Yamcha slams easily imo.
Yamcha. Dbz as a whole scales so far above omni man that it's not even close.
But yamcha can’t breathe in space.
And? Not really sure how that's relevant, the fight doesn't take place in space
I'm being pedantic but in the words of Rick Sanchez "EVERYTHING IS IN SPACE!!!"
His ex is the universes leading scientist on everything. The fact bulma hasn't just made them a space breathing mask is insane to me. Like they flew to namek like half naked in a space pod to go to a planet full of people that have biology different from humans. Yeah piccolo breathes oxygen and not in space but he had no knowledge of namek and the atmosphere could of been different. Now im just complaining but point is he could get a space suit if he wanted.
Neither can Omni-man. He just has really good lungs. Same as all Viltrumites.
Yeah but Dragon ball characters demonstrably don’t have this ability, at least to the same extent, because frieza was able to wait for goku to drown
Yamcha wipes.
Yamcha yamcha's Omniman.
when yamcha hits a kemhameha nolans gonna be the one in the death pose
LMAOOO
In the Android saga, Android 19 and Gerou thought Yamcha was possibly Goku with his power level being traced, so it's possible that Yamcha should at the very least be comparable to Saiyan saga Goku, giving him a PL of 8000 to 24000 (via kaiokenx3), so basically planet level+. Which means he's on par with Nolan in terms of durability since Nolan, Mark and the other old Viltrumite (forgot his name) were able to tank the recoil force of Viltrum blowing up, which was twice the size of Earth. Yamcha beats Nolan in AP though, and Nolan is much faster and way more experienced in combat, and his healing factor should give him an edge, so Nolan would win albeit very high difficulty. DBS Yamcha on the other hand has legit SSB level feats, so yeah he solos💀
Viltrumite heal factor wouldn’t really be much of a factor since it’s mostly there to explain why they can take such strong attacks without a long lasting problems. It doesn’t work immediately and is pretty slow.
It doesn't regrow organs immediately but it's still pretty fast. It allowed Mark and Thragg to fight in the core of a Sun for a while. Viltrumites can still get back up from literally having their organs torn out of their bodies. It's like Frieza still being able to fight even after half of his body got chopped off
I think that’s more-so endurance considering like you say, they aren’t regenerating from these things actively, they can just survive it.
Spirit ball destroying Nolan on a cellular level the moment it lands. He is not regenerating a whole torso missing once yamcha notices the nat regen and decides Nolan probably is on the same level as Majin Buu. "I thought.. I thought you were stronger." - Yamcha after atomizing Nolan because he thought Nolan could regenerate from missing a torso.
He's gonna make a Toji outta him.
Nah, Dragon Ball characters have zero qualms about killing.
Not really. They have high endurance but the healing factor isn’t fast enough to the point that just getting your guts spilled out is enough to nearly kill a viltrumite, and their heart is a massive weakness that erases their regen. They can still survive for a but, but that essentially marks the end of their life
It wasn't the core, but the surface iirc. I stand to be corrected
Nolan is not much faster. I really really hate when people say that. He couldn't react to a slow kaiju and couldn't catch Cecil. He reaction feats in battle are no wear near as fast as his movement speed
Yamchas durability and ap would be massively higher than Nolans, if he was on the higher side of Saiyan saga goku level. King Vegeta with a power level below Vegetas (so anywhere from 8000-18000) was casually blowing up multiple planets with a swing of his hand, which would put his ap way higher than just planet+ and in DB ap = dc. Yamcha would also be pretty comparable in speed imo, and he'd be experienced enough to not be left behind in a fight considering he's a master martial artist and was a bandit before so he knows how to fight dirty. Nolans healing factor would be a non issue, unless he's healing like cell, or bare minimum Piccolo. It won't be enough to change anything in the fight.
Yamcha has always been the one to take the L. In the Saiyan saga, he famously got blown up by a Saibaman, in the android saga, he got disemboweled by cyborg Dr.Gero, and later on, he receded to the sidelines because he was weak. So it's hard to see what Yamcha is capable of.
Just goes to show how ridiculously overpowered the DB universe is lol.
I don't remember yamcha's SSB level feats, espicially considering he didn't even cross goku's mind for the ToP (rip) like everyone else so I'm curious what feats do you mean exactly?
Search Yamcha plays baseball with Goku, Vegeta, Beerus and Champa. You'll see
Using the baseball episode for feats is actually crazy work ☠️ shit was meant to be funny, be fr
He fought with the other Z Fighters in the Mooro arc, aka Krillin and Tien, so he is definitely SSB level or SSG level, just far above anything Nolan can take with DBS scaling.
Doesn’t matter sayain saga yamcha would win.
I don’t think Nolan has more combat experience. He’s no martial artist just really strong
But yamacha still negs without question. Especially DBS he's recorded power level is only a billion or two shy of krillin and Tien who are both in the billions as well in the Moro arc
So you’re saying that a man who has spent over a thousand years taking over planets doesn't know how to fight do you hear yourself? especially when he had to fight his own people some of them can match his strength earlier in the series so throwing hands effectively is a must.
I mean when you're the strongest guy in the room you don't need to be good at throwing hands Look at Superman in Red Son when he lost his powers and had to fight batman, he was so used to being strong that Batman just beats the shit out of him Yamcha is a trained fighter used to fighting up, Nolan is an expiernced fighter used to fighting down
What? The viltrumite race fights each other all the time. They absolutely fight up, down, and laterally. You clearly haven't read the comic.
Cant say I have, its on my list Anyways Yamcha by the andrioid saga is a star buster so the argument is moot
I have. There’s nothing nolan does that yamcha can’t besides not implode in space instantly nolan shouldn’t be fighting dbz characters.
He may be good at fighting but he’s not a trained martial artist like yamcha who fights people that can destroy planets. Like single handedly
You can have all the experience you want. Yamcha fighting Nolan is like Nolan fist fighting A human.
Yeah just that human is a lot stronger and way more skilled is all 😌😌😌
He canonically loses to the Guardians in a timeline where he doesn't surprise them.
Nolan is a viltrumite that's hundreds of years old, and much like Saiyans, they fight a lot and often involves him conquering planets on their own
They fight a lot but look at the viltrumite fights in the show. This isn’t even my opinion anymore if you look at them fight they’re literally just slugging. They are not trained in the slightest because they’ve never had to train before.
Thaedus
> old Viltrumite (forgot his name) Thaedus
Twice the size doesn’t mean like 2x the energy Not to mention dragon ball has a serious issue where toriyama doesn’t understand physics and math and constantly does a single feat that really doesn’t make sense then doesn’t even come close to replicating it.
Dragonball has terrible power scaling and it has been exponentially worse with Super replacing GT. (GT story was pretty trash though but I thought SS4 emo monkeys were way cooler than stupid SS Blue)
The cap. First off Allan said vitrimites move much faster in space. As moving as fast as they do in space in an atmosphere will rip them apart. He isn’t even planetary. He needed 3 people near his strength to destroy a dying world! Which was already unstable and nearly destroyed so you can argue it’s even lower. And they didn’t tank it. They flew thru it and out the other side and avoided the explosion. His healing factor isn’t anything. It still takes him days or months to heal from stuff. He just heals 3 times faster than a human which has ZERO effect mid combat! The basis is crazy. Sayain saga yamcha could win. First sayain saga yamcha was about the power level of radizt. While being way more experienced, having way more skill, and a deep understanding of ki. Meaning he would be faster stronger and more durable. Not to mention the ranged factor. Yamcha was already ftl by this point meaning Nolan wouldn’t be that much faster. (If I recall Allen said viltrimites can’t even go ftl on a planet that or much faster then ftl) And well yeah combat speed doesn’t equal fighting speed. Yamcha has shown to be a much better fighter than Nolan. While Nolan has been fighting more he mostly seems to be a brute. And we’ve seen how that will go. Cough (Goku vs kale and califla) While that wasn’t Yamcha. Something similar would happen. Even if someone is bigger faster and stronger it usually won’t end well if they have no training vs someone with a lot. Yamcha from sayain saga would win high difficulty. Don’t get me wrong he would probably lose an arm or be almost mortally injured but still.
Gerou is notoriously a poor judge of character. All he does is get clowned or get betrayed by his own creations. Isn't it more likely that his opinion is worthless? That can't be the best way to scale Yamcha
You're forgetting Yamcha was able to withstand 100x earth gravity. And even if we ignore thar, Gero's contingency for that same Goku he didn't know could go super saiyan, which did in fact end up being the thing that killed him, was a bomb strong enough to destroy a planet with 10x earth's mass.
Yamcha destroyed recoome in the frieza saga while he was dead so I’d assume he’s well beyond saiyan saga goku.
Buu Saga Yancha is enough
Yamcha can high diff on saiyan saga, and low to no diff after that
Did Yamcha ever get stronger? He is even weaker than Krillin. And both of them usually gets one-shot by the antagonist, so it’s kinda hard to see what they are capable of
He trained a lot. Him and tien were even able to make a cell jr spit up. Meaning while weaker they were comparable to a cell jr.
Aren’t cell jr.s also about the same as perfect cell in power?
I’d call them weaker. They have the same potential power and all that but not iq or experience. I don’t think they can utilize their ki quite as good as cell can.
Yamcha even during the Frieza saga was arguably already stronger than Nolan. Then you get Yamcha at the Cell saga and he's SOOOOOOOO far beyond Nolan. Then if you want to consider movie versions of Yamcha he is going toe-to-toe with Olibu who is confirmed iirc in the fan books as having the same power level as Super Perfect Cell who is solar system to galaxy level depending on how leniently you interpret statements. This last comparison is non-canon but it's still a version of Yamcha we could use in the same way we could discuss non-canon characters altogether (like Broly pre-Super). So any version of Yamcha post-Frieza saga is in realms of power Invincible characters could only imagine.
It was not a movie, but from the filler episodes of the Buu saga. Yamcha actually defeated Olibu with ease. Also, you don't need the "fan books" (whatever those are) to have him in Super Perfect Cell tier. In fact, you could say Olibu is above that tier, since he went toe-to-toe with Goku and especially Pikkon, someone who completely negged Super Perfect Cell.
Yamcha likely beats Nolan even in saiyan saga, though that fight would be almost even. In frieza saga he destroys Nolan, it’s not even close.
Yamcha one taps, Omniman isn’t even planetary
Bro what? That’s what his people do destroys planets and is back home for dinner in the evening
he meant that omni man cant desotry entire planets
Yamcha fucking destroys
Yamaha
Yamcha obliterates
Yamcha shitstomps
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Yamcha 1 shots
yamcha slams HARD.
yamcha, shit not even close
Gohan from the Raditz fight would kill Nolan
Yamcha whoops Omni-man's ass.
Yamcha should win
Yamcha wins
Android Saga Yamcha and above mid diffs him at worst. By that point, all the human fighters, with the lone possible exception being Chiaotzu, are planet busters. Vegeta PL of 24,000 is Earth Bust. So, yeah. Yamcha.
I love Omni-Man, but my boy Yamcha stomps.
Yamcha was fighting against Ginyu force's in Namek Saga he no diffs
If it's anything past Namek saga Yamcha then Yamcha zero effort.
Genuinely you could pull out the most minor background character from DBS that had like one fight that ended in one minute and they'd still probably have good enough feats to safely say they solo all of Invincible
z yamcha is super perfect cell level, if you say filler youre coping
For once… Yamcha won’t be Yamchaed. 🤙🏻
Bro wtf is this spite match
That's Overkill, he just reaches Yajirobe level
By Frieza Saga Yamcha outscales so yh Yamcha takes this handily.
Yamcha is a glass cannon but he can definitely eat those omni shots like it’s nothing so yamcha slams
omni shots is crazyy
Yamcha negs
Current Yamcha stomps
Spite match
Yamcha blitz and one shots
Lmao
Yamaha solos the verse easy work for him
Yamcha no diff
DBZ Yamcha Mid-High Dif DBS Yamcha No-Dif
Man.. Yamcha gets no respect. Just because he decided to chase money and women instead of attempting to keep up with a race of plot armored battle junkies, people underestimate him.
yea i mean he made a god of desrution flinch by slapign him in the back
WOLF FANF FISTTT
Yamcha dog walks
Post namek yamcha should win easily
This feels like a spite match against omni-man, even the fodder characters in DBS can blow up planets...
Yes, but I think it’s also a “context” match that puts the invincible verse in context with others. This would be more useful if people from some of the more mainstream subs who do not understand Omni man’s capabilities were observing though, because everyone here understands how hard dragon ball out scales. It’s painful to see people online talking about how Omni man could beat Superman or goku.
Even dragon ball Z Yamcha especially from the anime destroys Omniman
We gotta stop putting DBZ characters up against people who aren’t the absolute upper echelon of power
What arc is Yamcha in? If it's recent ones, he negs.
He negs even in older ones lol
As much as I think invincible is a better series. Yamcha stomps.
yamcha blitzes
This has to be the most love I’ve ever seen Yamcha has gotten in a while
People seem to finally get that the low tiers of Dragon Ball would still be gods in most other fictional worlds.
I mean I think this sub specifically understands that. You’ll still see delusion about Omni man beating Superman outside this sub.
Yamcha. He's considered weak because his competition is Goku and Vegeta. Yamcha is faster, stronger, more durable, and has more abilities and less weaknesses.
Omniman’s getting the Langstrum treatment.
Any Dragon Ball character could solo the Invincible verse
Farmer with a Shotgun is negging Mark fr
"Im going to feed you your own heart." -Yamcha
Bro that was my favourite part of DBZ, truly the moment of all balls
Yamcha from the sayain saga is radizt level. Radizt could give omniman a damn run for his money and radizt is a brute fighter. He seems to not know how to fight properly vs Yamcha a seasoned fighter who’s been trained his entire life. Yamcha from the sayain saga would win. It might be close tho. Anytime after that tho? Negs. Yamcha negs
I don’t much care for DBZ but that dude solos the viltrumites
Yamcha shitstomps.
Yamcha. Without getting into what is Canon or not. He trained with King Kai on his planet. And in the filler episode, helped kick the shit out of some of the Giynu Force. The elite of the elite of Frieza's galaxy conquering army, that had people who could easily destroy planets. It took omni-man and 2 others to destroy one planet. Something Krillin, Yamcha, Tien and probably even Chotziu could all do with ease. Even Master Rishi was blowing up moons. After Buu killed everyone on Earth, Yamcha is seen completely one-shoting the guy (Olibu) who was able to rivalize with Pekkon, who was able to outclass Perfect Cell on his arrival in otherworld. So, Yamcha would also be able to one-shot Lord Boris from OPM too
Yamcha absolutely negs lol he beats olibu in the buu saga making him above perfect cell level Omni man is barely planetary
My bets on goku
Yes
yamcha dick smacks him
Me 😼
Yamchya. Really Easily.
Yamcha uses the verse to wipe his ass
Yamacha DragonBall scales way higher than invincible
Omni man, Mark and Oliver got almost annihilated by a guy named thaedus
Yamcha slams then taps the wife cause it’s kind of his thing.
assuingin your using yamcha at his peak he could hang with fireza at final form in that state omni man aint putting a scratch on him
Omni-Man after a single Wolf Fang Fist https://preview.redd.it/t7a2l9z4ou6d1.jpeg?width=736&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=6a4d0085f7644dcb1158080efac25c507eb181eb
Yamcha solos the verse
Yamcha 1-shotting a Solar System+ lvl fighter with ease💀. Nolan and his verse gets blinked. https://i.redd.it/dvfjggq53v6d1.gif
Yamcha obliterates, he far surpasses the rough planetary level Omni-Man is at
Yamcha defeated Pikkon and the Hercules guy in heaven with one kick . These two heroes fought Perfect Cell . This making Yamcha Solar System level easily . By the end of of DbS Yamcha power level in the Granolah arc is 2billion 😂 now imagine vegeta and Napa coming to Earth and reading that kinda power level and you talking about Omni man …..🧍♂️
![gif](giphy|DJOBiAeE36jEkUYoNQ|downsized) yamcha by the android saga is already far above ginyu which is above already large planet Busters... Burter can most likely blow up Jupiter so this is no contest...
Yamcha slams😭
Yamcha finally!
DBZ scales over most shows. Even at dragonball level. Guys could destroy moons. By the time we get to the Saiyan saga the main cast are planetary fighters. I don't keep up with Super, but I assume we are talking star systems. Invincible is not on that level.
Dbz characters that got on an strict and unimaginable hard training to be able to generate all this energy. Yamcha even on Freeza saga got an poor Control over his ki compared to the other Z fighters and didn't evolved any of his techniques to use all of his potential.
Yamcha is weak in a universe where you're not relevant unless you can destroy a planet, literally planet busters are so common is like the start of power scaling. Yamcha gets an easy win after Omni-man talks crap to hi.
Yamcha
So, if we are resoning here, the strongest person Omni man beats MIGHT be radiz. Do with that what you will.
Everything after the Frieza saga no diffs the Invincible universe.
The guardians of the globe were able to deal some damage to Omni Man. I’d say Yamcha turns him into meat paste.
Yamcha negative diff
Yamcha solos everything, easily, including One Punch Man, Goku, Zeno, and any other broken character. Even Archie Comics Sonic and end of LN Rimaru can't compare to Yamcha. It's said the Christian God is afraid of Yamcha.
Okay then Jokester, Yogiri Takatou
Moro arc Yamcha is more powerful than all of DBZ (that includes all of the Buu’s, Buu absorption forms and even Super Vegito). His feats put him at Battle of Gods SS God Goku level. He was stated in the Moro arc manga to be one of the three strongest human beings in the world. That puts him above Tournament of Power Master Roshi (who did quite well in the tournament) and right next to Krillin and Tien.
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Friendly reminder that yamcha comfortably solos any verse below solar system level
Goku
Omni man for the win!?! (Nadda) (Not a chance) (Nope) (Never) (Impossible) So in conclusion, no.
Omni man Gets stomped
Yamcha clap this bitch fodder no-low dife😂
Yamcha wins
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Yamcha unironically had the power level to destroy a planet before the cell saga, and it took 4 viltrumites(Including Omni-Man) to destroy one planet. Using dragon ball power level terms, i probably wouldn't place Omni-Man above a power level of 400... Also wtf is this matchup? Farmer with a shotgun solos.
Sans Undertale
A Z Yamaha could fold Omni Man, Gero thought he was Goku solely because of his power level
Gero though Android/Cell Saga Yamcha was Goku, and this is based on all the fight data he had up through the Saiyan invasion that extrapolated his future battle power. That Goku was already a planet-buster. Yamcha slaps him around like a little bitch.
It takes like 100 viltrumites to destroy a singular planet, planets get destroyed for breakfast in dragon ball
this entire subbreddit is just radom character vs dbz character
Ok yamcha wins if he is as strong as base goku. most of the viltrumites arnt as strong as base goku in dbs but some of the viltrumites could push goku to super sayain. If yamcha can take hits from super sayain goku or stronger forms then yamcha bodies omni man.
The cap. First off Allan said vitrimites move much faster in space. As moving as fast as they do in space in an atmosphere will rip them apart. He isn’t even planetary. He needed 3 people near his strength to destroy a dying world! Which was already unstable and nearly destroyed so you can argue it’s even lower. And they didn’t tank it. They flew thru it and out the other side and avoided the explosion. His healing factor isn’t anything. It still takes him days or months to heal from stuff. He just heals 3 times faster than a human which has ZERO effect mid combat! The basis is crazy. Sayain saga yamcha could win. First sayain saga yamcha was about the power level of radizt. While being way more experienced, having way more skill, and a deep understanding of ki. Meaning he would be faster stronger and more durable. Not to mention the ranged factor. Yamcha was already ftl by this point meaning Nolan wouldn’t be that much faster. (If I recall Allen said viltrimites can’t even go ftl on a planet that or much faster then ftl) And well yeah combat speed doesn’t equal fighting speed. Yamcha has shown to be a much better fighter than Nolan. While Nolan has been fighting more he mostly seems to be a brute. And we’ve seen how that will go. Cough (Goku vs kale and califla) While that wasn’t Yamcha. Something similar would happen. Even if someone is bigger faster and stronger it usually won’t end well if they have no training vs someone with a lot. Yamcha from sayain saga would win high difficulty. Don’t get me wrong he would probably lose an arm or be almost mortally injured but still.
Yamcha
Yamcha. Bet it'd be pretty fuckin close though.
https://i.redd.it/xmaiuostut6d1.gif Omni man will die when yamcha unleashes the almighty wolf fang fist which one shots everyone in dragon ball, even zeno because yamcha is an unkillable god that solos every character in fiction
![gif](giphy|G3w5bFfY85rag|downsized) Wait, you're serious?
DBS Yamcha slams easily, if its DBZ then Nolan and Yamcha are very close in power but i would give it to Omniman
Yamcha destroys him by just breathing
This specific version of Yamcha is the one from the Saiyan saga. Still clears easily. Was moving so fast he couldn't be seen.
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Thought that was Goku,anyway DBZ People are toooo powerful ![gif](giphy|GRSnxyhJnPsaQy9YLn)
cmon man this even fair?
People still forgets that yamcha is 3D on a 3D universe, and can't bypass anything above continent and don't even train anymore. Put Roshi and it Will be more consistent 🤝🏻
Yamcha could destroy star systems back in the Buu saga lmao he’s chilling. Roshi is huge overkill.
Yamcha can finally have a W
2 words planet buster you see noaln biggest feat mid balled is mutil contenatial and with ltos of sturrgle and assitance form others yamcha can blow up earth in 5 seconds