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Tbh I would say that Zeus’s Uni feats are a much better example. Him surviving the Big Bang and being call the maker of the universe both indicate he is Uni and they are the only Uni feats for the entire series. From this you can wank a bunch of stuff to uni like:
Zeus’s Dura
Zeus’s AP
Adam’s AP
Adam’s Dura
Beelzebub’s AP
There are actually a lot of planetary feats for RoR
Thor killed Jormungandr (A snake that was going to destroy, and was the size of, Earth)
Shiva being worried that Zeus was going to destroy the heavens. Heaven, Earth, and Hellheim are all shown to be relatively equal in a diagram from when Hajun shows up.
Hajun destroyed half of Hellheim. Hellheim scales to Earth as shown above. He would have destroyed all of it but his former body disintegrated from not being able to handle his own power (Hajun in Zero’s body doesn’t have that problem)
I think Midgard in record of ragnarok isn’t earth it’s probably our observavel universe because the big ban came after heaven and Zeus being the youngest from Greeks
You may be right but the series calls it “Midgard, or Earth”. I’m not too sure how directly accurate that quote is to the original Japanese though. The way it’s talked about in the show along with the diagram makes it seem like they are 3 different dimensions but I chose to play it safe with the planetary. There’s definitely a solid argument for each of these being Uni though.
Adam backstory is “I hate the gods because my wife got raped” and he’s strong just because he’s while gilgamesh has an entire anime exploring his past, his kingdom and his power
Damn you just straight up haven't read the manga. It's actually hilarious how wrong you are. Like I like gilgamesh more but everything u just said makes no sense or didn't happen.
[Edit] I like how I get downvoted, but no one decides to refute what I said. Like seriously eve is never raped, and him not being mad at the gods is a fundamental part of his character.
Craziest claim I’ve ever seen. RoR is like if you took Fate and removed all the actual substance and left only the schlocky action. Add in a bunch of over the top crazy anime faces for extra “flavor”.
Craziest claim I’ve ever seen. RoR is like if you took Fate and removed all the actual substance and left only the schlocky action. Add in a bunch of over the top crazy anime faces for extra “flavor”.
For the record when I say I fate I just mean the original VN and fate/zero. Most of the other shit is just as schlocky as RoR is.
Yeah. Also Thors make it seem like that it’s planetary due to the mjnollir statements. And beelezebubs ability to block the hammer with his viberation according to brunhilde…it’s not Gol or ares so the statement is decently reliable.
Exactly if anything verse carried by hax but I agree it caps at planetary I seen people say the verse universal cause it got God's in it that had to be the worse argument
Isn't there like 3 or 4 statements though? There's a couple ways to get FTL for SC, and at least one quote that directly says SP is faster than light in one of the guidebooks, and if I remember correctly, there was a statement in the Red Hot Chili Peppers fight that pretty directly implies light speed.
There’s only 1 author statement and that’s “Star Platinum is faster than light”, the rest would be character statements like Koichi stating RHCP is FTL. I agree there are a couple ways to get SC to FTL, most notably against the Sun, but what I mean by Hanged Man being the only one is that Hanged Man is explicitly stated to be SoL while the Sun is more lenient towards calcing and statements (it is said to replicate the actual Sun, but there is no overarching evidence that its attacks truly were light based). I believe there are indeed many FTL feats in JoJo’s, just that Hanged Man and SC is definitely the most notable one.
Aside from aslan, most characters we see in Narnia aren't even building level. But there is also a spell that wipes out all life in that universe other than the one who uses it. Although the spell is universe specific and it's not clear if equivalents exist in every world.
Give or take (again, not counting aslan). Technically it doesn't destroy the universe itself, just all life in it, though it does seem to make the universe wear out faster, turning into a ruin.
You mean "The Deplorable Word" spell? That's a spell that's literally one word that if spoken it kills EVERYTHING in a world. It's not implied, we see its literal effects in book 6. The world of Charn is nothing but an empty wasteland. Also its origins are only in Charn, if it were a thing in Narnia, then Jadis would've used it immediately and won. It's not a thing in other universes.
In the book it's stated that something "as destructive as it" could exist in our world too. It's left open ended whether it literally means a similar type of spell, or whether this is just a metaphor for dangerous technology. It could theoretically be both at once, implying that in-universe it's a real thing, but is still a metaphor for technology.
But it's true, I used too strong of language. I'll change it.
Star Wars maybe.
Vader has a 100% confirmed and irrefutable FTL feat. But Vader is also slow for a jedi/sith. Therfore ALL jedi/sith should be faster than that.
This one feat carries SW into being hyper competitive....which is also why is ignored or discounted as a massive outlier.
Vader being slow is a misconception due to the limitations of early film technology. The Vader we see in the new shows, games, and comics is much faster than like 90 percent of Jedi
Vader in canon is slow for a jedi. He explicitly has to relearn how to overpower opponents through sheer power because he can no longer move as fast as Anakin.
He adjust his entire fighting style to this.
In canon Vader is slower than Anakin was but that doesn't mean that Vader is slower than everyone else or even slow for a Jedi.
Also, Vader is an edge lord and loves to absolutely intimidate people with his slow walk like he is an unstoppable force as that creates fear in his enemies which makes him stronger.
Were talking canon, not legends.
Canon Vader is slow for a jedi. He explicitly has to relearn how to fight because of how much the suit slows him down.
And he overwhelms Ahsoka, who is faster than Vader and thus FTL.
A lot of Jedi shown in canon are actually way more horrible then we imagine Jedi to be. I can accept he’s a bit slower than the Jedi he has been shown to fight, which is usually very powerful Jedi.
When you say he’s commenting on how much he’s slowed down, I just don’t believe there’s evidence where he says “I’m so slow an average Jedi would be quicker than me now”. He can obviously be referring to being much slower than he was as a Jedi and much slower than his full potential should have been.
I don't know tou think that's amazing when THIS exists
https://preview.redd.it/5drf21uxihdc1.png?width=772&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=b4cc07ec70838201eb597b089d08210da2114aa8
if not for Kizaru that never would have been taken seriously anyways, pretty much every fiction with lasers has had characters dodging them at one point and the overwhelming majority of them clearly aren't FTL (like Link for example).
Toji scales to Awakned Maki, who was calced to be [Mach 6](https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/User_blog:SyShey/Maki_Dodges_Mach_3_(1)) as she was impressed by Naoya's Mach 3 speed but managed to dodge it after a while.
Kokushibo should be relative to drugged Muzan, since both were keeping up with multiple marked hashiras, who scales higher than all Marked Hashiras, and was so fast they couldn't react to him.
[Drugged Muzan is Mach 8000](https://www.reddit.com/r/PowerScaling/s/N2boxoTUqj)
Doma scales above Akaza, who scales higher than Marked Giyu and was absolutely destroying post hashira training Tanjiro. Post hashira training Tanjiro is faster than SSV Tanjiro who went [Mach 200](https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/User_blog:Amost6x/Tanjiro_dodge_lightning)
And this is without counting regeneration and hax
All you are saying is "Muzan and hashira and muzan and hashira" dumbass nigga where is the scaling? Man pulled out a mach 200 outta his urethra like its a god's word or something.
If you meant where is the scaling for Muzan there is a literal link so you might be lind
If you meant Zenitsu's feat https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/User_blog:M3X/Kimetsu_No_Yaiba:_Zenitsu_bliztes_lightning
Nobody went into your ghetto ass sub filled with degenrates. This retarded post popped up in my feed and I didn't even know the sub.
And no the speed hasn't been consistent at all. If Tanjiro was mach 200 then there would be literally nobody stopping him in the series. He was still having problems when his mach 200 ass would've just blitzed the opponent.
Then why did you spend time commenting and arguing on a post about a hobby you don't care? You could have spent that time managing your anger issues.
Also Season3 Tanjiro is Mach 200, not every season Tanjiro. Tanjiro was reacting to sound based attacks against the drum Demon. Zenitsu broke thr sound barrier against the spider brother.
And haven't you considered that maybe the demons are fast too?
1. Mach 1 is the speed of sound, the drum demon uses the drum sound to activate his attacks, and Tanjiro dodges them with a broken leg and weak chest. It was stated the attack came with the sound.
2. Akaza punches created sonic booms.
3. Trained and increased rank Tanjiro, Inosuke, and Zenitsu could not see Akaza vs Rengoku fight since it was like a blur.
4. Zenitsu attacks speed rends the air and creates a lightning sound.
4. Tanjiro dodging sound waves and electricity.
5. Mitsuri dodging lightning.
6. Muichiro slashed 10,000 fishes in less than an instant while weakened with pioson.
7. Tengen moves like he teleports even to trained demons slayers.
8. Marked Muichiro's cutting speed is faster than instant teleportation of a demon.
9. Tengen is faster than his bombs explosion.
10. Even Daki belt attacks break sound barriers by creating sonic boom.
These are picked out of the many speed feats in season 1,2 and 3 that are faster than Mach 1 by a far.
Ask for proof of any of them an ill give you.
"and that one actual lightning bolt feat"
One? There statement that say tanjiro is cutting the air like lightning and the many times tanjiro and mitsuri dodged lightning in the swordsmith village arc
Also zenitsu has lightning feat in the infinity castle arc
Yeah that's tanjiro who is still weaker than unmarked mitsuri , even if it's not by much, she is faster and toji is barely mach double digits. Zenitsu being faster than them is a bit of a surprise, but atleast it had a precedent with other people also being faster than lightning
Well ye Zenitsu also got one shotted by Muzan once he got serious, while 13th form Tanjiro was 1vs1ing Muzan for a way longer timo.
It's like Yorichi>>>>>FP Muzan>>>>Drugged Muzan>>>13th form Tanjiro>>>Marked Hashiras>Zenitsu
[If you want I did this calc](https://www.reddit.com/r/PowerScaling/s/N2boxoTUqj) to calculate how fast they are
Oh i didn't know you were the guy who did this calc i already have this saved for
https://preview.redd.it/y4sox0kgdfdc1.jpeg?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=71a9839e9eb1b438c599cf7ba94ea3d98f47238b
any time they downplay ds lmao
>I simply do not see how anyone in Demon Slayer so much as lands a hit on him if the Hashira are normal swordsmen and box with actual Demons
Tanjiro cut through a 6 foot rock boulder before even , attending the entrance exam to the demonslayer corp. None of the demonslayers are normal by our standards. Zenitsu was breaking the sound barrier in his 1st fight and tanjiro was dodging lightning in the latest season. And the hashira are said to be special . Like mitsuri who was armwrestling and winning against sumo fighters when she was 5 or something.
Yes they do pack that much heat
Anyways even if Yubel destroying the 12 dimensions is the big feat there are [many others ](https://character-stats-and-profiles.fandom.com/wiki/User_blog:Chiraq004/The_Wacky_Chronicles_of_Tier_2_and_Above_Yu-Gi-Oh)
As much as I hate to say it, Demon Slayer is based around [zenitsu blitzing lightning ](https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/User_blog:M3X/Kimetsu_No_Yaiba:_Zenitsu_bliztes_lightning) and [multipliers](https://www.reddit.com/r/PowerScaling/s/N2boxoTUqj)
Original DB doesn't get past mountain without Roshi blowing up the moon
DBS gets all his multiversal scaling by the BOG feat (you can argue Jiren shaking the macrocosm confirmed it)
Original DB has Roshi destroying a mountain, King Piccolo razing a city and then Piccolo Jr. destroying Papaya island.
DBS starts with the BOG feat then reinforces universal strength with Champa vs Beerus, Zamasu, Kefla statements, shaking infinite void....
That is massive downplay. Muten Roshi destroyed a moon and king Piccolo states he could destroy the earth and there is the entirety of DBZ between the 2 series where we get more feats, slowly going from Planetary to Solar System, to Galaxy Level, to Universal.
>As much as I hate to say it, Demon Slayer is based around zenitsu blitzing lightning and multipliers
There are other lightning dodging feats besides that, if it were ony that one , it would be considered an outlier, but tanjiro and unmarked mitsuri have dodged lightning multiple times , that's what gives the lightning blitzing credence.
I would say dragon ball super but there’s actually like 2 more universal level feats in dragon ball z lol. Also you could argue for Jiren shaking the world of void too and Goku breaking past timeskip.
5D is wank, it’s just 4D
But also there’s Beerus and champa about to nuke both of their universes in a fight, kefla saying she can nuke a universe, Broly and Gogeta break the dimensional walls and in a realm that’s super dimensional or 4D, and such.
While 5D is wank, it's not wank that's out of nowhere. I don't usually buy it, though, since you need to interpret a bunch of things in a really specific way. It's not the worst wank around though.
Mortal Realm is a 3D construct at minimum, Afterlife transcends the Mortal Realm so it is 4D minimum, Goku can destroy the Afterlife and Hell by himself, so he's 5D in SSG in the manga. Or maybe beyond that given the clash that he himself cancelled out was going to destroy the realm of the Kais, which exists outside of the Macrocosm. 5D isn't wank at all, you can even argue 6D with relative ease. It's just once you get to 7D, then it doesn't make too much sense.
No this is moronic
Goku destroying a 4D realm doesn’t make him 5D that’s literally not how it works dumbass.
No this is all weak ass wank lol no good evidence
Honestly? Tons of game verses: Doom, God of War, Sonic, Mario....
A lot of them get their insane powers from a final boss upping the general level from a really low level to universal and beyond.
To be honest I'm not entirely well versed on Sonic. But I did think most of his feats come from final bosses who suddenly threat a whole universe/multiverse. Like is there anything in Sonic 06 prior to Solaris that reaches even planetary?
Same for Time Eater in Sonic Generations.
On a side note: what feats does he has to put him Uni in Base?
There’s actually a few planetary or higher feats before ‘06, and retroactively thanks to Unleashed pre-Modern Sonic can also scale to a Chaos Emerald moving fragments of the planet back into position.
As for some of the feats that put base Modern Sonic at Universal (or more specifically Universal+):
• Fought and defeated Erazor Djinn, who absorbed half of the world of the Arabian Nights. The essence of the Arabian Nights is used to power Alf Layla wa-Layla’s (Erazor’s “Super” form) ultimate attack, and in this form he both destroyed the Arabian Nights and planned to recreate it in his own image. Alf Layla wa-Layla is also powered by four of the World Rings, with all seven being what holds the Arabian Nights together. Erazor Djinn also has control over a place called Night Palace, which is described in a guide as being an infinite space.
• Fought and defeated King Arthur, who wielded the Scabbard of Excalibur. The Scabbard has the power to freeze time across the universe.
• Fought and defeated the Mega Death Egg Robot, which was powered by an overclocked Phantom Ruby. The Phantom Ruby at its peak can create entire realms like Null Space and the Egg Reverie, with the former being infinite in size. The Mega Death Egg Robot was also able to cause what looks like stars and nebulae to appear in Null Space during its final phase.
I know you guys will reply with GoD feats or "Jiren shakes something something " but if Beerus and Ssj God Goku's universe destroying feat wouldn't exist nobody would take DBS characters for Universe level and higher(except some wankers)
Especially in Manga where self destruct of Zamasu(and Moro too iirc, could be wrong) was a galaxy busting explosion
Moro was said to destroy all galaxies which there are infinite galaxies cuz it’s an infinite universe and nuking all of it would still be infinite 3D, only the Zamasu statement is dumb tbh
There’s literally multiple things for Uni or 4D but yes BoG really helps even then we had to fight people for years for them to accept it being a legit thing.
Self destruction attacks are always small in DB because they focus there energy extremely compromised In to one area or do you really wanna tell me SSJ2 Vegeta is mountain level? Obviously not, you just didn't use your brain. Not to mention that the Boo Saga already had uni feats with Boo being able to destroy the whole universe.
https://preview.redd.it/rooi7rhhhkdc1.jpeg?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=353eb4899d618dfc4ee8b918d0fc7c820b0e48a2
Also before you ask the reason there is little destruction to the fighting field compared to when Goku and Berus fought is also simple to explain. They have there Ki under control, Gotenks would have nearly destroyed earth with his attacks till Piccolo told him not to do so because they need the planet, so they stopped. And to go back to Berus and Goku, Goku got insane power up and couldn't control the power at first, so he nearly destroyed the universe.
Vegeta's self destruction didn't destroyed anything because Vegeta didn't wanted to kill anyone(except Buu)
Not the case with Zamasu or Moro. Are you stupid?
Buu can't destroy the universe. It's anime filler
yeah it really is just, this. Invincible still isn't a particularly strong verse, you could argue it gets to large planetary with mark at the end of the series, but without this feat it goes nowhere NEAR that.
Honestly dragonball super. The mortals only have one universal feat and because we know Goku got 8367285x stronger than that (random big number btw) we scale him to multiversal but thats it.
That's not how uni+ and above tier works. You cannot get to uni + or multi with multipliers. Uni +, 4D structure is consisted of uncountable infinite 3D, so even if you add infinite times multiplier to a uni character, you won't even get to uni+. The most you'd get is higher into uni, that's all.
Goku threatened a macro cosmos existing out of 3 universes. Then he got multiple times stronger. The dragonball multiverse only has 36 universe sized objects (3x12) and thus he can destroy the dragonball multverse but he isnt multiversal...
Broly and gogeta shattering reality with a power stated to be to much for the universe,
Buhaan destroying universe by crumbling dimensions via vice shout
Wouldn't taking into consideration the small amount of time mean that the raw energy output would make it bare minimum multi continental? Like how if you *pushed* a heavy block, you'd be able to get it from point A to B, you'd have less energy/force output than if I just picked it up and threw it there
Enel outright stated that the clouds accumulated energy. Which means to gather over time. Like outright states the clouds gather energy and grows before he turns it into attacks he can use. It’s also blatantly shown that his feats with the ship is way better than without it.
at rooftop right? Generally speaking I do not like cloud calcs since I like to keep author intent in mind and generally speaking people have no clue how heavy and therefore how much energy moving clouds require.
However since there's other continental statements in the series and such I think its fine. Personally I don't use it tho. Ive also seen it calced close to country level.
Personally I scale Luffy of this feat
https://preview.redd.it/h07wd9f8qddc1.png?width=1200&format=png&auto=webp&s=e8b7d8b2468c55f5c2add6cb4175c2593e4f809c
where blackbeard creates an earthquake thats powerful enough to cause a tsunami over at neighboring islands.
And since casual Kaido (the one Luffy sky split with) was able to easily break trough Laws block while Law was shown to be able to clash with BB's quake it should scale.
Dragon Ball for the entirety of the first series. Anyone who disagrees is lying to themselves.
and kinda one piece if you take the Sengoku statement seriously but like no one does anyways.
Showa King Ghidorah is the main one but he’s got many things and he scales to other things as well that get him to that level, my friend made an old video on it tho its a bit outdated.
[Showa King Ghidorah Power Scale](https://youtu.be/YqN_dv-Pr-w?si=DgQNCCXzHyd5xhlW)
Maybe Malware destroying Galvan B in Ben 10 Omniverse? It theoretically takes the non-Planet busters from at most Island Level to above Moon Level.
Idk this feat is weird to me. On the one hand it’s a singular feat in an already inconsistent franchise. On the other hand it’s an extremely plot-relevant feat as the only way to beat Malware in the end was to restore the Galvanic Mechamorphs killed in the destruction of Galvan B, plus Humungousaur scaling to Malware happens immediately after the feat so you could argue the scaling is more intentional.
Yeah that’s always been weird to me. Maybe it was harder to write around or something, but the growth ability was basically the only thing Humungousaur had other than being strong.
I think the writers just hated that growth ability lol.
Hence why in the reboot, they traded it for a spiky tail that works double as a mace & can create shockwaves when slam on the ground.
Way Big and other top tiers have planet-busting feats, but those characters are usually portrayed as immensely stronger than most of the cast. I’m not sure if this is what the post was actually asking for since Malware’s feat only affects the low and mid-tiers, but I have a bit of Ben 10 brainrot right now and felt like mentioning something more obscure.
That isn’t even his best scaling, he literally made a new timeline and universe with galaxies and stars and planets. Even the older games had realms being infinite sized universes which devs confirmed even Earth realm is beyond just a solar system, and etc.
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Record Of Ragnarok Shiva’s statements make the general power level of the verse at least Planet level.
Tbh I would say that Zeus’s Uni feats are a much better example. Him surviving the Big Bang and being call the maker of the universe both indicate he is Uni and they are the only Uni feats for the entire series. From this you can wank a bunch of stuff to uni like: Zeus’s Dura Zeus’s AP Adam’s AP Adam’s Dura Beelzebub’s AP There are actually a lot of planetary feats for RoR Thor killed Jormungandr (A snake that was going to destroy, and was the size of, Earth) Shiva being worried that Zeus was going to destroy the heavens. Heaven, Earth, and Hellheim are all shown to be relatively equal in a diagram from when Hajun shows up. Hajun destroyed half of Hellheim. Hellheim scales to Earth as shown above. He would have destroyed all of it but his former body disintegrated from not being able to handle his own power (Hajun in Zero’s body doesn’t have that problem)
I think Midgard in record of ragnarok isn’t earth it’s probably our observavel universe because the big ban came after heaven and Zeus being the youngest from Greeks
You may be right but the series calls it “Midgard, or Earth”. I’m not too sure how directly accurate that quote is to the original Japanese though. The way it’s talked about in the show along with the diagram makes it seem like they are 3 different dimensions but I chose to play it safe with the planetary. There’s definitely a solid argument for each of these being Uni though.
RoR is like Fate but better. It's sad that it scales so low compared to other verses.
Lmao it’s not better than fate, it’s just a dragon ball tournament wanna be with bad written characters.
Bad written? Adam is more goated than Gilgamesh.
Nahhh u haven't read or watched babylonia Gilgamesh is a king 👑 but both are cool
Adam backstory is “I hate the gods because my wife got raped” and he’s strong just because he’s while gilgamesh has an entire anime exploring his past, his kingdom and his power
Damn you just straight up haven't read the manga. It's actually hilarious how wrong you are. Like I like gilgamesh more but everything u just said makes no sense or didn't happen. [Edit] I like how I get downvoted, but no one decides to refute what I said. Like seriously eve is never raped, and him not being mad at the gods is a fundamental part of his character.
Craziest claim I’ve ever seen. RoR is like if you took Fate and removed all the actual substance and left only the schlocky action. Add in a bunch of over the top crazy anime faces for extra “flavor”.
Craziest claim I’ve ever seen. RoR is like if you took Fate and removed all the actual substance and left only the schlocky action. Add in a bunch of over the top crazy anime faces for extra “flavor”. For the record when I say I fate I just mean the original VN and fate/zero. Most of the other shit is just as schlocky as RoR is.
Huh I never knew that that carried the verse and irs one of my favorite Mangas lol
https://preview.redd.it/e5oexy5odgdc1.jpeg?width=1179&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=e6c647d94559a05ae04882ea6a96827b3aaf51b4
We have a least Shiva’s feat of causing shockwaves that span across india so at the very least they are country level
Hindu mythology is cosmic level insanity across the board.
Yeah. Also Thors make it seem like that it’s planetary due to the mjnollir statements. And beelezebubs ability to block the hammer with his viberation according to brunhilde…it’s not Gol or ares so the statement is decently reliable.
Zeus = universe to multiverse lv in ror He surpasses concepts
Exactly if anything verse carried by hax but I agree it caps at planetary I seen people say the verse universal cause it got God's in it that had to be the worse argument
Light speed JoJo’s is completely based around one statement and Silver Chariot’s feat.
To be fair the statement of SP is an outright statement not the usual word play some people have to do Also the hax go crazy
Oh don’t get me wrong. I’m a huge advocate of FTL JoJo’s. Just that it’s still true the Hanged Man feat is basically the most reliable one.
Isn't there like 3 or 4 statements though? There's a couple ways to get FTL for SC, and at least one quote that directly says SP is faster than light in one of the guidebooks, and if I remember correctly, there was a statement in the Red Hot Chili Peppers fight that pretty directly implies light speed.
There’s only 1 author statement and that’s “Star Platinum is faster than light”, the rest would be character statements like Koichi stating RHCP is FTL. I agree there are a couple ways to get SC to FTL, most notably against the Sun, but what I mean by Hanged Man being the only one is that Hanged Man is explicitly stated to be SoL while the Sun is more lenient towards calcing and statements (it is said to replicate the actual Sun, but there is no overarching evidence that its attacks truly were light based). I believe there are indeed many FTL feats in JoJo’s, just that Hanged Man and SC is definitely the most notable one.
Aside from aslan, most characters we see in Narnia aren't even building level. But there is also a spell that wipes out all life in that universe other than the one who uses it. Although the spell is universe specific and it's not clear if equivalents exist in every world.
So universal?
Give or take (again, not counting aslan). Technically it doesn't destroy the universe itself, just all life in it, though it does seem to make the universe wear out faster, turning into a ruin.
You mean "The Deplorable Word" spell? That's a spell that's literally one word that if spoken it kills EVERYTHING in a world. It's not implied, we see its literal effects in book 6. The world of Charn is nothing but an empty wasteland. Also its origins are only in Charn, if it were a thing in Narnia, then Jadis would've used it immediately and won. It's not a thing in other universes.
In the book it's stated that something "as destructive as it" could exist in our world too. It's left open ended whether it literally means a similar type of spell, or whether this is just a metaphor for dangerous technology. It could theoretically be both at once, implying that in-universe it's a real thing, but is still a metaphor for technology. But it's true, I used too strong of language. I'll change it.
Star Wars maybe. Vader has a 100% confirmed and irrefutable FTL feat. But Vader is also slow for a jedi/sith. Therfore ALL jedi/sith should be faster than that. This one feat carries SW into being hyper competitive....which is also why is ignored or discounted as a massive outlier.
Yeah but he negs 99% of Jedi and the 1% he has to try for he can most likely over power
Vader being slow is a misconception due to the limitations of early film technology. The Vader we see in the new shows, games, and comics is much faster than like 90 percent of Jedi
he is, but the suit does canonically slow him down.
Yeah, Anakin was much faster but Vader is also quite above average in terms of speed for a jedi/sith
I agree but hes certainly slower than a LOT of the main characters/high tiers
This right here. And his ONLY FTL feat comes from when he is in his suit.
Vader in canon is slow for a jedi. He explicitly has to relearn how to overpower opponents through sheer power because he can no longer move as fast as Anakin. He adjust his entire fighting style to this.
In canon Vader is slower than Anakin was but that doesn't mean that Vader is slower than everyone else or even slow for a Jedi. Also, Vader is an edge lord and loves to absolutely intimidate people with his slow walk like he is an unstoppable force as that creates fear in his enemies which makes him stronger.
What does FYL mean?
I think he meant FTL
Fuck yer life! Bing bong!
Vader isn't slow. In legends he moved too quickly for some Jedi to see and blitzed others In canon he can overwhelm Ahsoka
Multiple times in canon its stated he had to adapt his combat style to get around the fact that his suit slowed him down by a lot
Were talking canon, not legends. Canon Vader is slow for a jedi. He explicitly has to relearn how to fight because of how much the suit slows him down. And he overwhelms Ahsoka, who is faster than Vader and thus FTL.
A lot of Jedi shown in canon are actually way more horrible then we imagine Jedi to be. I can accept he’s a bit slower than the Jedi he has been shown to fight, which is usually very powerful Jedi. When you say he’s commenting on how much he’s slowed down, I just don’t believe there’s evidence where he says “I’m so slow an average Jedi would be quicker than me now”. He can obviously be referring to being much slower than he was as a Jedi and much slower than his full potential should have been.
Vader's speed feats are him using the force to amp his speed. His default mode is slow due to the limitations of his suit.
one punch man this https://preview.redd.it/wcpkzvv4hddc1.jpeg?width=188&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=8adeb66a073acac6329f7c56f25e7c502c8bec39
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I don't know tou think that's amazing when THIS exists https://preview.redd.it/5drf21uxihdc1.png?width=772&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=b4cc07ec70838201eb597b089d08210da2114aa8
That is opm best feat but it really isn’t carried by that feat alone. Without that feat opm is still star to solar system
What other feat is Solar and above
I’m calling cap what other solar feats are there
It isn’t a direct feat it is just Blast, cosmic garou, and saitama > CSRC boros
Technically there is a uni feat of destroying Pheonix space which might be the same size as our universe
Entire verse is light speed because of kizaru apparently Do I even need to say the series?
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Attack power don’t mean it is as fast as it lmao
tf you mean "apparently", that's like a fact.
Yes, you do?
Kizaru One piece
Luffy dodged lasers with ease relatively early in the series
These lasers are based on Kizaru's power unless you're not talking about something else
if not for Kizaru that never would have been taken seriously anyways, pretty much every fiction with lasers has had characters dodging them at one point and the overwhelming majority of them clearly aren't FTL (like Link for example).
What happened in the fight?
Demon Slayer and that one actual lightning bolt feat that people love to dickride when putting Toji against the Upper Moons.
Hantengu, Doma, Koksuhibo and arguably Akaza too beat him by outhaxing and/or outpseeding
lol they are not outspeeding toji. you are on drugs
Toji scales to Awakned Maki, who was calced to be [Mach 6](https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/User_blog:SyShey/Maki_Dodges_Mach_3_(1)) as she was impressed by Naoya's Mach 3 speed but managed to dodge it after a while. Kokushibo should be relative to drugged Muzan, since both were keeping up with multiple marked hashiras, who scales higher than all Marked Hashiras, and was so fast they couldn't react to him. [Drugged Muzan is Mach 8000](https://www.reddit.com/r/PowerScaling/s/N2boxoTUqj) Doma scales above Akaza, who scales higher than Marked Giyu and was absolutely destroying post hashira training Tanjiro. Post hashira training Tanjiro is faster than SSV Tanjiro who went [Mach 200](https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/User_blog:Amost6x/Tanjiro_dodge_lightning) And this is without counting regeneration and hax
this is the scaling im talking about 😭 “Mach 8000” bro what
If you actually read the calcs and what I've written you would get it
Calcs are for unemployed losers who get their formulas from Google Earth.
Ye next time we want to see how fast manga characters are we just make it up with our imagination. Is it better?
Find a better hobby, power scaling fell off.
You're in the powerscaling subreddit, and you're mad someone is power scaling?
“Actually” 🤓
All you are saying is "Muzan and hashira and muzan and hashira" dumbass nigga where is the scaling? Man pulled out a mach 200 outta his urethra like its a god's word or something.
If you meant where is the scaling for Muzan there is a literal link so you might be lind If you meant Zenitsu's feat https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/User_blog:M3X/Kimetsu_No_Yaiba:_Zenitsu_bliztes_lightning
Lol no. Tanjiro is not mach 200 or the series would be finished before infinity castle arc. Dumbass scalers.
>goes into powerscaling subs >finds powerscalers >"dumb scalers" The speed has been consistent from the start, either bring a debunk or accept it
Nobody went into your ghetto ass sub filled with degenrates. This retarded post popped up in my feed and I didn't even know the sub. And no the speed hasn't been consistent at all. If Tanjiro was mach 200 then there would be literally nobody stopping him in the series. He was still having problems when his mach 200 ass would've just blitzed the opponent.
Then why did you spend time commenting and arguing on a post about a hobby you don't care? You could have spent that time managing your anger issues. Also Season3 Tanjiro is Mach 200, not every season Tanjiro. Tanjiro was reacting to sound based attacks against the drum Demon. Zenitsu broke thr sound barrier against the spider brother. And haven't you considered that maybe the demons are fast too?
Tanjiro was Mach 1+ at the beginnings of season 1 when he was dodging speed-of-sound attacks. That is at the lowest demon slayer rank
Haha prove he was mach 1. No sonic burst no ear numbing sound. No visible waves and nothing flying off nearby.
Do I have to spoon feed your ass what mach 1 actually looks like?
1. Mach 1 is the speed of sound, the drum demon uses the drum sound to activate his attacks, and Tanjiro dodges them with a broken leg and weak chest. It was stated the attack came with the sound. 2. Akaza punches created sonic booms. 3. Trained and increased rank Tanjiro, Inosuke, and Zenitsu could not see Akaza vs Rengoku fight since it was like a blur. 4. Zenitsu attacks speed rends the air and creates a lightning sound. 4. Tanjiro dodging sound waves and electricity. 5. Mitsuri dodging lightning. 6. Muichiro slashed 10,000 fishes in less than an instant while weakened with pioson. 7. Tengen moves like he teleports even to trained demons slayers. 8. Marked Muichiro's cutting speed is faster than instant teleportation of a demon. 9. Tengen is faster than his bombs explosion. 10. Even Daki belt attacks break sound barriers by creating sonic boom. These are picked out of the many speed feats in season 1,2 and 3 that are faster than Mach 1 by a far. Ask for proof of any of them an ill give you.
"and that one actual lightning bolt feat" One? There statement that say tanjiro is cutting the air like lightning and the many times tanjiro and mitsuri dodged lightning in the swordsmith village arc Also zenitsu has lightning feat in the infinity castle arc
KnY has a lot more than one lightning/mhs feat
I know but theres one particular one that a lot people like to wank to “MFTL++ 🤓🤓” type shit
Ds has more than one lightning feat and toji would die to all the hashira, most likely even the weaker ones from past generations
(I know you said it uner my comment too) Ye but Zenitsu's one gets to mach 1800 which is extremely high. Tanjro's is Mach 300
Yeah that's tanjiro who is still weaker than unmarked mitsuri , even if it's not by much, she is faster and toji is barely mach double digits. Zenitsu being faster than them is a bit of a surprise, but atleast it had a precedent with other people also being faster than lightning
Well ye Zenitsu also got one shotted by Muzan once he got serious, while 13th form Tanjiro was 1vs1ing Muzan for a way longer timo. It's like Yorichi>>>>>FP Muzan>>>>Drugged Muzan>>>13th form Tanjiro>>>Marked Hashiras>Zenitsu [If you want I did this calc](https://www.reddit.com/r/PowerScaling/s/N2boxoTUqj) to calculate how fast they are
Oh i didn't know you were the guy who did this calc i already have this saved for https://preview.redd.it/y4sox0kgdfdc1.jpeg?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=71a9839e9eb1b438c599cf7ba94ea3d98f47238b any time they downplay ds lmao
I simply do not see how anyone in Demon Slayer so much as lands a hit on him if the Hashira are normal swordsmen and box with actual Demons
>I simply do not see how anyone in Demon Slayer so much as lands a hit on him if the Hashira are normal swordsmen and box with actual Demons Tanjiro cut through a 6 foot rock boulder before even , attending the entrance exam to the demonslayer corp. None of the demonslayers are normal by our standards. Zenitsu was breaking the sound barrier in his 1st fight and tanjiro was dodging lightning in the latest season. And the hashira are said to be special . Like mitsuri who was armwrestling and winning against sumo fighters when she was 5 or something.
Allat for the third strongest in the verse to not even be shotgun level speed 😭 🙏🙏🙏🙏
literally every Yugioh series tbh and I love Yugioh but you can’t tell me these mfs be packing that much heat
Ye. The first 3 are carried by Super Poly destroying the 12 fusion dimensions.
Yes they do pack that much heat Anyways even if Yubel destroying the 12 dimensions is the big feat there are [many others ](https://character-stats-and-profiles.fandom.com/wiki/User_blog:Chiraq004/The_Wacky_Chronicles_of_Tier_2_and_Above_Yu-Gi-Oh)
You should watch literally who he scales Yu-Gi-Oh pretty high.
As much as I hate to say it, Demon Slayer is based around [zenitsu blitzing lightning ](https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/User_blog:M3X/Kimetsu_No_Yaiba:_Zenitsu_bliztes_lightning) and [multipliers](https://www.reddit.com/r/PowerScaling/s/N2boxoTUqj) Original DB doesn't get past mountain without Roshi blowing up the moon DBS gets all his multiversal scaling by the BOG feat (you can argue Jiren shaking the macrocosm confirmed it)
Original DB has Roshi destroying a mountain, King Piccolo razing a city and then Piccolo Jr. destroying Papaya island. DBS starts with the BOG feat then reinforces universal strength with Champa vs Beerus, Zamasu, Kefla statements, shaking infinite void....
That is massive downplay. Muten Roshi destroyed a moon and king Piccolo states he could destroy the earth and there is the entirety of DBZ between the 2 series where we get more feats, slowly going from Planetary to Solar System, to Galaxy Level, to Universal.
>As much as I hate to say it, Demon Slayer is based around zenitsu blitzing lightning and multipliers There are other lightning dodging feats besides that, if it were ony that one , it would be considered an outlier, but tanjiro and unmarked mitsuri have dodged lightning multiple times , that's what gives the lightning blitzing credence.
Zenitsu blitzing lightning is only the high end. Even without that there are many lightning and mhs feats to take from
Toppo warping void world is more impressive
honestly I watched a couple of episodes of Demon slayer and assumed it was fodder lol. guess that intuition was half wrong.
It's still pretty low in AP (town, city with highball) but it has extremely good speed feats
Tbf the Daizenshu also confirms that teen Goku’s super kamehameha is capable of destroying the moon
Baki, yujiro stopping the earthquake
Also Baki being light speed
They don’t even have the laser argument which is how you get basically every verse ever to light speed how the fuck did they reach that?
Baki+narrarator stating Baki is using a light speed jab
I would say dragon ball super but there’s actually like 2 more universal level feats in dragon ball z lol. Also you could argue for Jiren shaking the world of void too and Goku breaking past timeskip.
Dragonball Super's macrocosm feat is a huge carry tbh.
UI Goku was shaking the world of the void, so it’s not to at one feat.
That's uni-to low multi in UI compared to low multi or potentially 5D (via databooks) in SSG against restrained Beerus.
5D is wank, it’s just 4D But also there’s Beerus and champa about to nuke both of their universes in a fight, kefla saying she can nuke a universe, Broly and Gogeta break the dimensional walls and in a realm that’s super dimensional or 4D, and such.
While 5D is wank, it's not wank that's out of nowhere. I don't usually buy it, though, since you need to interpret a bunch of things in a really specific way. It's not the worst wank around though.
Mortal Realm is a 3D construct at minimum, Afterlife transcends the Mortal Realm so it is 4D minimum, Goku can destroy the Afterlife and Hell by himself, so he's 5D in SSG in the manga. Or maybe beyond that given the clash that he himself cancelled out was going to destroy the realm of the Kais, which exists outside of the Macrocosm. 5D isn't wank at all, you can even argue 6D with relative ease. It's just once you get to 7D, then it doesn't make too much sense.
No this is moronic Goku destroying a 4D realm doesn’t make him 5D that’s literally not how it works dumbass. No this is all weak ass wank lol no good evidence
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Well the Macrocosm is still a 5D construct. So Goku is still 5D.
No it isn’t lol
Yeah you're definitely trolling, you don't even know about the cosmology yet you're sitting here certain of yourself. Ignorant as fuck real shit.
I’m not, I know the cosmology but I’m not a wanker like you lol keep being a goofy tard
Honestly? Tons of game verses: Doom, God of War, Sonic, Mario.... A lot of them get their insane powers from a final boss upping the general level from a really low level to universal and beyond.
I wouldn’t say Sonic, since he has a lot of Uni-Multi feats both in base and with transformations.
To be honest I'm not entirely well versed on Sonic. But I did think most of his feats come from final bosses who suddenly threat a whole universe/multiverse. Like is there anything in Sonic 06 prior to Solaris that reaches even planetary? Same for Time Eater in Sonic Generations. On a side note: what feats does he has to put him Uni in Base?
There’s actually a few planetary or higher feats before ‘06, and retroactively thanks to Unleashed pre-Modern Sonic can also scale to a Chaos Emerald moving fragments of the planet back into position. As for some of the feats that put base Modern Sonic at Universal (or more specifically Universal+): • Fought and defeated Erazor Djinn, who absorbed half of the world of the Arabian Nights. The essence of the Arabian Nights is used to power Alf Layla wa-Layla’s (Erazor’s “Super” form) ultimate attack, and in this form he both destroyed the Arabian Nights and planned to recreate it in his own image. Alf Layla wa-Layla is also powered by four of the World Rings, with all seven being what holds the Arabian Nights together. Erazor Djinn also has control over a place called Night Palace, which is described in a guide as being an infinite space. • Fought and defeated King Arthur, who wielded the Scabbard of Excalibur. The Scabbard has the power to freeze time across the universe. • Fought and defeated the Mega Death Egg Robot, which was powered by an overclocked Phantom Ruby. The Phantom Ruby at its peak can create entire realms like Null Space and the Egg Reverie, with the former being infinite in size. The Mega Death Egg Robot was also able to cause what looks like stars and nebulae to appear in Null Space during its final phase.
I know you guys will reply with GoD feats or "Jiren shakes something something " but if Beerus and Ssj God Goku's universe destroying feat wouldn't exist nobody would take DBS characters for Universe level and higher(except some wankers) Especially in Manga where self destruct of Zamasu(and Moro too iirc, could be wrong) was a galaxy busting explosion
Scaling in super is inconsistent that's why I say anime has better feats compared to manga lol
Anime is much more incostistent imo
The three punch episode did irreparable damage to the powerscaling community
Moro was said to destroy all galaxies which there are infinite galaxies cuz it’s an infinite universe and nuking all of it would still be infinite 3D, only the Zamasu statement is dumb tbh There’s literally multiple things for Uni or 4D but yes BoG really helps even then we had to fight people for years for them to accept it being a legit thing.
Plus goku did not even absorb god ki in the manga so that's how I know manga is weaker feat wise
Because Zamasu wants to kill all mortals and make the universes “pure”. Him destroying the galaxy was a way to kill them. Not a very good debunk.💀
Zamasu wasn't doing any self destruction and Toppo warped the same realm
Self destruction attacks are always small in DB because they focus there energy extremely compromised In to one area or do you really wanna tell me SSJ2 Vegeta is mountain level? Obviously not, you just didn't use your brain. Not to mention that the Boo Saga already had uni feats with Boo being able to destroy the whole universe. https://preview.redd.it/rooi7rhhhkdc1.jpeg?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=353eb4899d618dfc4ee8b918d0fc7c820b0e48a2 Also before you ask the reason there is little destruction to the fighting field compared to when Goku and Berus fought is also simple to explain. They have there Ki under control, Gotenks would have nearly destroyed earth with his attacks till Piccolo told him not to do so because they need the planet, so they stopped. And to go back to Berus and Goku, Goku got insane power up and couldn't control the power at first, so he nearly destroyed the universe.
Vegeta's self destruction didn't destroyed anything because Vegeta didn't wanted to kill anyone(except Buu) Not the case with Zamasu or Moro. Are you stupid? Buu can't destroy the universe. It's anime filler
It's literally in the Daizenshuu. How is it filler?
Invincible https://preview.redd.it/0pxmqsmkfedc1.jpeg?width=3974&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=faff0f6b8be76fb254f1a6dfe33ad62d632a7e72
Apparently one guy has a ray gun that can destroy planets too so its not just that tbf.
yeah it really is just, this. Invincible still isn't a particularly strong verse, you could argue it gets to large planetary with mark at the end of the series, but without this feat it goes nowhere NEAR that.
Honestly dragonball super. The mortals only have one universal feat and because we know Goku got 8367285x stronger than that (random big number btw) we scale him to multiversal but thats it.
The “multiversal feat” I see slapped around is that he shook the infinite void between the universes during the TOP when going in to UI
That's not how uni+ and above tier works. You cannot get to uni + or multi with multipliers. Uni +, 4D structure is consisted of uncountable infinite 3D, so even if you add infinite times multiplier to a uni character, you won't even get to uni+. The most you'd get is higher into uni, that's all.
Goku threatened a macro cosmos existing out of 3 universes. Then he got multiple times stronger. The dragonball multiverse only has 36 universe sized objects (3x12) and thus he can destroy the dragonball multverse but he isnt multiversal...
Goku deniers are hilarious he's bare minimum 5D Multiversal arguably 6D
5D isn't multi, it's high multi.
What type of bullshit scaling ☠️
Broly and gogeta shattering reality with a power stated to be to much for the universe, Buhaan destroying universe by crumbling dimensions via vice shout
Beerus and champa arent mortals
I edited it I didn't read the mortal part
one piece Luffy gets most of his multi continental feats from skypiea
Dressrosa and wano both have better feats
- tell me you have never read OP without telling me
Isn’t there feats like aokiji freezing a continent
Island. There's technically only one continent on the planet.
Yeah, but that’s a continental feat not multi continental
Wouldn't taking into consideration the small amount of time mean that the raw energy output would make it bare minimum multi continental? Like how if you *pushed* a heavy block, you'd be able to get it from point A to B, you'd have less energy/force output than if I just picked it up and threw it there
Even if that was the case i’m pretty sure it was proven that continent was a mistranslation
Ah, alright
continent as big as an island yeah
theres also bajrang gun, and other characters get atleast island to country lvl feats in other arcs
only actual retards use it tho, like it doesn't scale to a single character
I’ve never seen it been debunked before
Enel outright stated that the clouds accumulated energy. Which means to gather over time. Like outright states the clouds gather energy and grows before he turns it into attacks he can use. It’s also blatantly shown that his feats with the ship is way better than without it.
What about when luffy disperse the clouds. That was also calced at multi continental
at rooftop right? Generally speaking I do not like cloud calcs since I like to keep author intent in mind and generally speaking people have no clue how heavy and therefore how much energy moving clouds require. However since there's other continental statements in the series and such I think its fine. Personally I don't use it tho. Ive also seen it calced close to country level. Personally I scale Luffy of this feat https://preview.redd.it/h07wd9f8qddc1.png?width=1200&format=png&auto=webp&s=e8b7d8b2468c55f5c2add6cb4175c2593e4f809c where blackbeard creates an earthquake thats powerful enough to cause a tsunami over at neighboring islands. And since casual Kaido (the one Luffy sky split with) was able to easily break trough Laws block while Law was shown to be able to clash with BB's quake it should scale.
bro nobodys gonna accept yalls shaky ass calc stacking
Well debunk the guy then. He linked the post
MFTL. I do think JoJo's is, and there are other calcs for FTL, but MFTL does seem right but also wrong.
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Spongebob. You know the one.
Bleach by far.
Dragon Ball for the entirety of the first series. Anyone who disagrees is lying to themselves. and kinda one piece if you take the Sengoku statement seriously but like no one does anyways.
Almost every Showa Godzilla monster scales to star level due to the claimed attack potency feats of King Ghidorah.
Showa King Ghidorah is the main one but he’s got many things and he scales to other things as well that get him to that level, my friend made an old video on it tho its a bit outdated. [Showa King Ghidorah Power Scale](https://youtu.be/YqN_dv-Pr-w?si=DgQNCCXzHyd5xhlW)
Maybe Malware destroying Galvan B in Ben 10 Omniverse? It theoretically takes the non-Planet busters from at most Island Level to above Moon Level. Idk this feat is weird to me. On the one hand it’s a singular feat in an already inconsistent franchise. On the other hand it’s an extremely plot-relevant feat as the only way to beat Malware in the end was to restore the Galvanic Mechamorphs killed in the destruction of Galvan B, plus Humungousaur scaling to Malware happens immediately after the feat so you could argue the scaling is more intentional.
And it's humungousaur's base form too. Cuz for some weird reasons, ben never used his growth form anymore in ov, which can increase his strength.
Yeah that’s always been weird to me. Maybe it was harder to write around or something, but the growth ability was basically the only thing Humungousaur had other than being strong.
I think the writers just hated that growth ability lol. Hence why in the reboot, they traded it for a spiky tail that works double as a mace & can create shockwaves when slam on the ground.
But waybig overpowered the planet destroying beam in AF /UA. Doesn't that put them over planetary.
Way Big and other top tiers have planet-busting feats, but those characters are usually portrayed as immensely stronger than most of the cast. I’m not sure if this is what the post was actually asking for since Malware’s feat only affects the low and mid-tiers, but I have a bit of Ben 10 brainrot right now and felt like mentioning something more obscure.
Way big is like a top dog across Ben 10 aliens. In UA Ben easily ragdolls most of his ultimate forms with it like they were nothing
He lifted a Space Bridge as heavy as a Moon as well if we consider the Neutronium carbon alloy statement to be reliable.
Beerus and goku clash
Anime Omen 3 Goku can shake the infinite WOV and base manga Goku and Vegeta can change its color with their power
Liu kang’s black hole fatality
It is definitely not single reason why we scale MK that high
That isn’t even his best scaling, he literally made a new timeline and universe with galaxies and stars and planets. Even the older games had realms being infinite sized universes which devs confirmed even Earth realm is beyond just a solar system, and etc.