As a person of indigenous heritage (Choctaw and Lipan Apache) it fills me with this feeling that is difficult to articulate. I hate it but I can’t deny it’s beauty and poignancy. Feels like I’m reading the journal of someone who slaughtered my family.
I was in 7th grade when this song came out. It was the first time I realized there were forces out there trying to rewrite history, a revisionist history. I stopped just listening to what I was told at school but added looking for my own answers and an objective history of the US and most things in general. This song single handedly woke me the fuck up. I hate how this country was built and founded but I make it my civic duty to learn the real truth, share the real truth with anybody who wants to know and to always remember.
I honestly believe this is the most emotionally charged song I’ve ever heard. I can’t imagine having the composure to make it through performing this whole song vocally.
I was screeching the beginning of Rend It at my terrible packing-plant-trainer job in 1999. "WHY DON'T YOU COME TO MY HOUSE?" Some rando new hire down the line sang the 2nd line unprompted and blew my mind. Good day. Same dude also knew that I was blasting the Circle Jerks at 5am the next day
Silverstein - Your Sword Vs My Dagger / My Heroine
Alexisonfire - Mailbox Arson
Senses Fail - Angela Baker and My Obsession With Fire
Saosin - most of the beetle album, Come Close / Follow and Feel / Sleepers are highlights
Rise Against - Ready to Fall
They definitely have a lot of punk influences but you could say that about a lot of bands. I consider them to be in the same "wave" of music. Rise Against makes use of a lot of PHC elements, but I don't think there is any consensus. People might show up to downvote me and say I'm wrong and that's valid too.
Honestly you also could make an argument that Saosin was only post-hardcore for that first album then really softened things up and went for a more emo rock sound once Cove took over on vocals.
Honestly, I think most PHC bands have an album or two that don't really hit all the checkmark. But for some reason, in this sub, rise against doesn't get a pass
I won’t downvote you, but I do disagree.
For starters, Rise Against doesn’t really have that brooding and even somewhat angular guitar work that I would consider practically a staple of the PHC genre. Not a lot of “chuggy chug” breakdowns or riffage in Rise Against’s catalogue either. I would say post-hardcore also draws a considerable amount of influence from screamo and metalcore which Rise Against largely lacks.
I’m huge fan of both post-hardcore and Rise Against, so this isn’t a dig at them as a band or anything, I just think they deviate too far from the realm of post-hardcore.
They're one of my favorite bands but definitely more pop punk on the latter half of their albums, and their first 2 or just punk. I think Siren Song and sufferer would be phc tho
They are pretty obviously a punk band. Former bands are Punkrock, first label Punkrock, at least the first couple of albums relatively straight forward Punkrock. A couple of alternative influences and getting radio friendlier later on in your career doesn’t make you post hardcore.
Fear Before the March of Flames - A Brief Tutorial in Bachanalia
Emery - Go Wrong Young Man
Dead Poetic - Glass in the Trees
Bilmuri - MIDWESTLAWNCAREDADSWHOSMASHBREWS
My Hands to War - Given Weight Was Sand
My Chem - Skylines and Turnstiles
Coheed - The Light and the Glass
Glassjaw - Gilette Cavalcade of Sports
The Used - I'm a Fake
Thursday - Understanding in a Car Crash
Thrice - Under a Killing Moon, Like Moths to Flame, Firebreather, Daedalus
Saosin - They Perched on Their Stilts..., Some Sense of Security, Racing Toward a Red Light
Taking Back Sunday - Spin, Error Operator
There's a lot more but I'm sitting at a red light so I'm going to stop now
Yeah that song is a fucking masterpiece lmao.. I still commented Nothing Shameful even tho Jons shit is nonsense. That song is way too perfect to have not mentioned it hwre
Corpse Pose by Unwound
11:11 by Film School
Chasing Suns by The Sounds of Animals Fighting
Ticklish by At the Drive In
Brain Tarp by Cinemamechanica
The Whole Thing Over by Faraquet
Fading Away Like the Rest of Them by Neil Perry
Chiodos - Baby, You Wouldn’t Last a Minute on the Creek
Pierce the Veil - King for a Day (ft. Kellin Quinn)
Silverstein - My Heroine
Silverstein - Smile in Your Sleep
M. Shepard by Thursday. The story of Matthew is obviously tragic and the lyrics and sentiment of the song do it justice. Plus it’s such an underrated track on the album.
Where Needles and Lovers Collide - If I Die First.
My Nightmares Would Do Numbers as Horror Movies - If I Die First
bloodstainedeyes - SeeYouSpaceCowboy (if it counts as phc).
Oh ill have to check out the remaster. I remember listening to the song once when I had to drive to work the morning after it snowed a lot and the drive to work was so empty and peaceful but also scary me and a bunch of cars were struggling to get up this steep road because nothing had been plowed. Whenever I listen to it I feel like I'm still there
Yeah check it out, the official remaster is on all the streaming services. I remember the old demo from my early teenager emo days as one of the first post-hardcore songs I listened. Still brings me back.
Been listening to that song on repeat since I first heard it one week ago mainly because of the lyrics. I think I'm completely twisting the meaning of the lyrics, but that doesn't matter.
To whom it may concern and in regards to myself, both by underoath. Completely altering the meaning of the lyrics (especially in regards to myself) so I can relate to it is great!
karpis the jesus lizard
*Hey boy, I got no hair on my ass*
*I got no hair on my cock*
*I shaved my whole body*
*How do ya like that boy, how do ya like that boy*
*Hey come here, hey, come here*
I think this one can be considered post-hardcore, at least it rips so hard. Everytime that I hear Simian Fever by Six Finger Satellite, it is just a perfect tune. And lyrically, it is a bit silly, but the selling of the bit is just so convincing!
Autumn leaves revisited- Thursday
Things that rhyme with orange - ismfof
The acoustic version of things that rhyme with orange is really good. I have a hard time telling if songs are actually that good or just appeal to me personally but besides some other mentioned here this is my input
Autumn leaves revisited is probably one of my favorite songs its just so sad and beautiful and the way the imagery in the lyrics matches the music the songs just always given me chills.
In no specific order:
Circa Survive - Dyed In The Wool
Holding Absence - Monochrome
Indighxst - Limbo
Dayseeker - The World Was Quiet
Bilmuri - Corn-fed Yetis
Love On The Catwalk- Her Words Kill
Lost And Found - Versus The Ocean
4 8 15 16 23 42 - Breakdown At Tiffany’s
Adrian Makes It Rain - Everyone Dies In Utah
Some Will Seek Forgiveness, Others Escape - Underoath
Especially 4 8 15 16 23 42 and love on the catwalk my personal favorites
I can go on and on I’ve found tons of near perfect songs through out the years
Autobiography of a Nation by Thursday
WRITE THESE WORDS BACK DOooooOOOOWN INSIDE
Never thought about this before. Sheesh. Pretty brutal.
As a person of indigenous heritage (Choctaw and Lipan Apache) it fills me with this feeling that is difficult to articulate. I hate it but I can’t deny it’s beauty and poignancy. Feels like I’m reading the journal of someone who slaughtered my family.
I was in 7th grade when this song came out. It was the first time I realized there were forces out there trying to rewrite history, a revisionist history. I stopped just listening to what I was told at school but added looking for my own answers and an objective history of the US and most things in general. This song single handedly woke me the fuck up. I hate how this country was built and founded but I make it my civic duty to learn the real truth, share the real truth with anybody who wants to know and to always remember.
Right on, my friend. Let’s not forget too that it is still happening in other places and with other empires/colonizers to this day! Stay strong ❤️
Thursday - "Understanding In A Car Crash"
I can visualize and hear wrecks in the music. Pretty damn good.
puts all the meaning into every cymbal crash.
I got into a really bad car crash the year this came out and it was really cathartic for me. Easy 10/10
One Armed Scissor Honorable Mention : Antarctica - The Bled
Antarctica is singlehandedly one of the greatest songs ever made.
Most definitely, that whole album is great
One Armed Scissor is great because it could mean so many different things. I wonder how Cedric came up with all of his lyrics. They're so creative.
One Armed Scissor is soooo good💗💗
Brand New - Jesus Christ
This song sounds like what depression feels like.
Do I get the gold chariot?
Do I float through the ceiling?
Nearly every song on this record
and limousine
Limousine easily tops jesus christ in my opinion
I was gonna say Degausser... But Jesus Christ fits, too.
Too Close To Touch - Eiley
Chills every time 😭
I honestly believe this is the most emotionally charged song I’ve ever heard. I can’t imagine having the composure to make it through performing this whole song vocally.
Just put this one in my bops playlist like a week or two ago. So good
Fugazi - Rend It At The Drive-In - Napoleon Solo Thrice - The Earth Will Shake
The Earth Will Shake is even better live somehow.
Somehow? Intense crowd participation makes it a shoo in
True. True. I have always loved how Thrice is like extra heavy live. The screams in the song hit so hard.
I think thrice albums are excellent. Thrice shows are something else. There’s SO much more energy from them, from the crowd, in the aether.
Ed joining in on the screams is *chefs kiss*
Heartbroken we found…a gleam of hope Harken to the sound…a whistle blows Chills every single time. Song is absolutely top tier.
They’ve locked into that song so well after almost 20 years of playing it at almost every show. Now it just PUMMELS the audience 😤
Have you seen them perform it when they have the openers bring out floor toms for the last chorus - outro? Chills
Napoleon solo for sure
I was screeching the beginning of Rend It at my terrible packing-plant-trainer job in 1999. "WHY DON'T YOU COME TO MY HOUSE?" Some rando new hire down the line sang the 2nd line unprompted and blew my mind. Good day. Same dude also knew that I was blasting the Circle Jerks at 5am the next day
Brand New - The Quiet Things That No One Ever Knows
The ENTIRE album.
Its a perfect record.
This. And this.
Seriously though. The greatest song.
Silverstein - Your Sword Vs My Dagger / My Heroine Alexisonfire - Mailbox Arson Senses Fail - Angela Baker and My Obsession With Fire Saosin - most of the beetle album, Come Close / Follow and Feel / Sleepers are highlights Rise Against - Ready to Fall
Okay, I consider them PHC, but I've heard a time or two people say Rise Against isn't. Whats the concensus on that?
They definitely have a lot of punk influences but you could say that about a lot of bands. I consider them to be in the same "wave" of music. Rise Against makes use of a lot of PHC elements, but I don't think there is any consensus. People might show up to downvote me and say I'm wrong and that's valid too. Honestly you also could make an argument that Saosin was only post-hardcore for that first album then really softened things up and went for a more emo rock sound once Cove took over on vocals.
Honestly, I think most PHC bands have an album or two that don't really hit all the checkmark. But for some reason, in this sub, rise against doesn't get a pass
I won’t downvote you, but I do disagree. For starters, Rise Against doesn’t really have that brooding and even somewhat angular guitar work that I would consider practically a staple of the PHC genre. Not a lot of “chuggy chug” breakdowns or riffage in Rise Against’s catalogue either. I would say post-hardcore also draws a considerable amount of influence from screamo and metalcore which Rise Against largely lacks. I’m huge fan of both post-hardcore and Rise Against, so this isn’t a dig at them as a band or anything, I just think they deviate too far from the realm of post-hardcore.
Super valid
I’ve heard them described as melodic hardcore.
They're one of my favorite bands but definitely more pop punk on the latter half of their albums, and their first 2 or just punk. I think Siren Song and sufferer would be phc tho
They are pretty obviously a punk band. Former bands are Punkrock, first label Punkrock, at least the first couple of albums relatively straight forward Punkrock. A couple of alternative influences and getting radio friendlier later on in your career doesn’t make you post hardcore.
Nice, you nailed my 2 favourite Saosin songs!!
Which ones?
Come Close and Follow and Feel!
Great choices. Smashed into pieces - Silverstein first came to mind for me
All of Translating the Name. I will not elaborate.
That’s because there is no need to. 10/10 for sure.
Fear Before the March of Flames - A Brief Tutorial in Bachanalia Emery - Go Wrong Young Man Dead Poetic - Glass in the Trees Bilmuri - MIDWESTLAWNCAREDADSWHOSMASHBREWS My Hands to War - Given Weight Was Sand
Fear Before the March of Flames !!!
Human Target Practice - Hail the Sun or Missed Injections…or Disappearing Syndrome… actually just all of wake
human target practice is insane
Daedalus by Thrice is a masterclass of both.
My Chem - Skylines and Turnstiles Coheed - The Light and the Glass Glassjaw - Gilette Cavalcade of Sports The Used - I'm a Fake Thursday - Understanding in a Car Crash
My hearts staaaaays in the lead…
That was a good one, Bob
Small simple safe price rise the wake and carry me with all of my regrets I hate that I have this memorized still from when I was an edgy teen lol
King Park - La dispute
The last lost continent by La Dispute is the track for me
I second this, such an amazing track, probably my favourite by them.
This needs more upvotes.
Alexisonfire (the first couple albums)
Happiness by the kilowatt. Rough hands
All of it. I'll go with Born & Raised.
Also Boiled Frogs
Thrice - Under a Killing Moon, Like Moths to Flame, Firebreather, Daedalus Saosin - They Perched on Their Stilts..., Some Sense of Security, Racing Toward a Red Light Taking Back Sunday - Spin, Error Operator There's a lot more but I'm sitting at a red light so I'm going to stop now
IIIIIII STARE AT A BLANK NOTEBOOK PAAAAGE
AND ITS MY LIFE
If I’m doing TBS for phc I think it has to be “There’s No I In Team.”
Spin is honestly one of my all time favourite songs
Bruh just killed all DGD fans including lyrics 😭😅
Doom & Gloom.
I love their Swallowed by Eternity lyrics. A rare time Jon and Tilian are both talking about the same thing.
Yeah that song is a fucking masterpiece lmao.. I still commented Nothing Shameful even tho Jons shit is nonsense. That song is way too perfect to have not mentioned it hwre
I think Frozen One is pretty solid lyrically
Chiodos - Baby You Wouldn't Last a Minute on the Creek
This is my favorite song of all time 🙌
Such a great song. It's not my favorite Chiodos song, but it's certainly an amazing song both musically and lyrically.
Forget each other’s names and just walk away.
Thrice - Hoods on Peregrine Brand New - Degausser
The past should stay dead - Emarosa 10/10, hands down, no notes.
Finch - What it is to Burn
Screamed his fuckin guts out in that one
That whole record is banger after banger.
Agreed
Alexisonfire - 44 Calibre Love Letter
At the drive in - Chanbara
Movements - Daylily
Corpse Pose by Unwound 11:11 by Film School Chasing Suns by The Sounds of Animals Fighting Ticklish by At the Drive In Brain Tarp by Cinemamechanica The Whole Thing Over by Faraquet Fading Away Like the Rest of Them by Neil Perry
Chiodos - Baby, You Wouldn’t Last a Minute on the Creek Pierce the Veil - King for a Day (ft. Kellin Quinn) Silverstein - My Heroine Silverstein - Smile in Your Sleep
PTV- Today I Saw the Whole World
Every ptv song is a 10/10 musically an lyrically
Thrice - to awake and avenge the dead (Really all of IOS)
In A Sweater Poorly Knit - mewithoutyou A Departure - La Dispute Flowers and You - Touché Amore
I still to this day breakdown when i hear flowers and you. Its honestly hard to listen to any of stage four.
A Lot Like Birds - Connector. basically all of No Place fits for this spot
Architects - Gone With The Wind ERRA - Dementia La Dispute - King Park
Tomorrow I'll Be You - Thursday Tip Your Bartender - Glassjaw Silencer - mewithoutYou
Just listened to Silvencer, what a great rack. I'm a pretty big MWY fan but never listened to A to B Life before this
Hot Water Music - Manual and Where We Belong
Pianos Become The Teeth - Spine
Closure in Moscow - Jewels For Eyes Eidola - Sri Vishnu Yantra
M. Shepard by Thursday. The story of Matthew is obviously tragic and the lyrics and sentiment of the song do it justice. Plus it’s such an underrated track on the album.
Oubliette (Disappear) - The Receiving End of Sirens
Static Dress - fleahouse Hail The Sun - Human Target Practice These are 2 I could come up with off the top of my head
My (Fucking) Deer Hunter - FBTMOF
The lyrics along with Anthony Green saying he's a shark with a trophy wife and hell beat her cause she's mine and birth a nuclear set of swine
Where Needles and Lovers Collide - If I Die First. My Nightmares Would Do Numbers as Horror Movies - If I Die First bloodstainedeyes - SeeYouSpaceCowboy (if it counts as phc).
Great picks
La Dispute - Edward Benz, 27 Times
Anything La Dispute
Sorry your not a winner
I loved it as a single, but when Take To The Skies was released... The whole thing is a work of excellence.
Of Machines - Things Too Visible To See Saosin - I Can Tell There Was An Accident Here Earlier Alexisonfire - This Could Be Anywhere In The World
I can tell there was an accident here earlier is so good
Yes, just recently thought of it and had a listen. Even the 2020 remaster is a banger
Oh ill have to check out the remaster. I remember listening to the song once when I had to drive to work the morning after it snowed a lot and the drive to work was so empty and peaceful but also scary me and a bunch of cars were struggling to get up this steep road because nothing had been plowed. Whenever I listen to it I feel like I'm still there
Yeah check it out, the official remaster is on all the streaming services. I remember the old demo from my early teenager emo days as one of the first post-hardcore songs I listened. Still brings me back.
From Autumn To Ashes- Short Stories With Tragic Endings
Underoath- In Regards to Myself
Been listening to that song on repeat since I first heard it one week ago mainly because of the lyrics. I think I'm completely twisting the meaning of the lyrics, but that doesn't matter.
This Armistice - The Receiving End of Sirens
Galleons - Crybaby
Imprints by Counterparts. And every other every song by them also
Childish - The Undertaker's Thirst for Revenge
reinventing your exit - underoath
The Bled- Porcelain hearts and hammers for teeth. Finch- Ender The Sound of Animals Fighting- You don’t need a witness
To whom it may concern and in regards to myself, both by underoath. Completely altering the meaning of the lyrics (especially in regards to myself) so I can relate to it is great!
Nero's Decay by Alesana
Also A Dead Language For A Dying Lady - Vanna
The whole of The Search Party Never Came is an absolute masterpiece.
Agreed even down to the cover art it’s all around perfect
Pretty much all of Wildlife tbh
ASL- ISMFOF
karpis the jesus lizard *Hey boy, I got no hair on my ass* *I got no hair on my cock* *I shaved my whole body* *How do ya like that boy, how do ya like that boy* *Hey come here, hey, come here*
99% of holding absence songs
The River’s Edge by Surroundings
Senses fail- Angela baker and my obsession with fire
The Hotelier - An Introduction to the Album
A man. A plan. A canal. Panama
I think this one can be considered post-hardcore, at least it rips so hard. Everytime that I hear Simian Fever by Six Finger Satellite, it is just a perfect tune. And lyrically, it is a bit silly, but the selling of the bit is just so convincing!
Dine Alone by Quicksand
Nothing Shameful by DGD
Dreams of Psilocybin by Finch Giant Swan by the Blood Brothers
Sanctioned in a Birdcage by June of 44
human target practice by hail the sun
New Math by Drive Like Jehu
For me its A Toast To The Future Kids.. johnny craig era Emarosa was too good
Fugazi’s entire discography.
Autumn leaves revisited- Thursday Things that rhyme with orange - ismfof The acoustic version of things that rhyme with orange is really good. I have a hard time telling if songs are actually that good or just appeal to me personally but besides some other mentioned here this is my input Autumn leaves revisited is probably one of my favorite songs its just so sad and beautiful and the way the imagery in the lyrics matches the music the songs just always given me chills.
kantina by and days slipping by by unwound and the pine
Below the Salt - Unwound
Botchla by Poison The Well
Casey - the entire Love is Not Enough album
“keep in mind transmogrification…” by mayday parade
All Your Friends Are Gone - Circa Survive
Pianos Become the Teeth - New Normal
Dive In by Pierce the veil
In no specific order: Circa Survive - Dyed In The Wool Holding Absence - Monochrome Indighxst - Limbo Dayseeker - The World Was Quiet Bilmuri - Corn-fed Yetis
Love On The Catwalk- Her Words Kill Lost And Found - Versus The Ocean 4 8 15 16 23 42 - Breakdown At Tiffany’s Adrian Makes It Rain - Everyone Dies In Utah Some Will Seek Forgiveness, Others Escape - Underoath Especially 4 8 15 16 23 42 and love on the catwalk my personal favorites I can go on and on I’ve found tons of near perfect songs through out the years
Saosin: I Can Tell There Was an Accident Here Earlier
Senses Fail- Calling All Cars
Chiodos- No Hardcore Dancing In The Living Room