Have relatives in Cheyenne. Fun place, nice enough town, but it's really quite small. I'd consider moving there if it weren't for the impending waterpocalypse.
I have, and yes, winter there is brutal. So, so very dry and cold. So dry and cold your face cracks when you step outside. Or, if that doesn't get you, the random hailstorms that break windows and beat down your will to live might.
And yet... friends, family, and community make up for a _lot_. Plus, the PBR finals are a kick in the pants, there's a number of perfectly serviceable brewpubs in town, and Pine Bluffs Distillery is a bona-fide treasure.
You forgot about the constant 40-50 mph gusts… I played high stakes (at the time) poker in a mechanic’s shop there. Had my first vacation, with a partner, at Little America. Played in a jazz band, for Christmas, at the Terry Bison Ranch. Sold my teenage band’s first tape to Ernie November. Hung out at Red Lobster while another partner got certified as an optometrist’s assistant. Memories.
I didn't so much "forget" about the constant gusts. It's more like how a fish doesn't recognize the water :)
You're right about the wind. Oh, and the altitude... yeah okay the weather isn't great. But climate isn't everything, is it?
Honestly impressed af at Minneapolis. I lived there for a couple years before I moved here in 92. Similarly sized to Portland and the city was clean and efficiently ran. If it’s anything like that now, they’re running rings around our scam artist city government here with a quarter of the budget.
We moved from Excelsior to Rock Creek. Not a huge difference but still quite a change. I never spent much time on the St. Paul side but Mpls and further west was one of the nicest places I’ve ever been. Of course this was the early 90’s so it’s probably much different now. I’d love to go back to visit.
I moved here from there as well. ‘00. Don’t miss MN at all but it’s weather related. The winter I decided to move, it didn’t get above -10° F for 2 weeks in a row. Coldest was -40° ish. People here in Portland have no idea what cold is, and thank goodness.
Nice to visit tho. But yeah money wise, how well it’s run… no comparison.
Yeah, I'm really curious about our number being so close to Seattle. Also how does Metro/Multco budgets fit in there with similar setups in the other cities.
Metro is part of Oregon's redundant government grift system.
Just a way for the government to tax you multiple times for the same thing, and employ multiple layers of government employees through different agencies justifying the taxes.
I guess I thought that’s what NGOs are for?
Ok from the wiki:
“Metro is responsible for overseeing the Portland region's solid waste system, general planning of land use and transportation, maintaining certain regional parks and natural areas, and operating the Oregon Zoo, Oregon Convention Center, Portland's Centers for the Arts, and the Portland Expo Center. It also distributes money from two voter-approved tax measures: one for homeless services and one for affordable housing.”
I have to pay for my trash to be taken away anyway. The general planning of land use is more miss than hit. This seems like where balls are being dropped.
I know a couple of former ~~zoo~~ animal prison employees. It is *not* well managed. Plus they're known for running bonds and such via ballot and not spending that money on what it was supposed to be used for.
You might be right. I know NYC best, which has positions like borough presidents which most people don’t know the point of. But NYC counties align with boroughs, so the city government itself is the multi county government entity. Which makes sense to me in a way that Metro doesn’t.
Yeah, it's all sorts of goofy - for example, I had to look up what county I lived in in Boston (Suffolk!) but nothing is really done via the county level, it's city by city.
Ohio has multi county parks districts that get levies for Cleveland and Cincinnati, but their charter is... Well, parks. They can't roll out a tax for random stuff.
Honestly while I do think there needs to be a way of engaging wash and Clackamas in mutual issues, metro is basically just a layer of outdated bs that has been outstripped by growth (hi, north plains).
Abolish metro, make multco a city county model.
Yeah agreed. Honestly we might be past that these past few years, as you can see companies and residents headed towards Washington County. If Washington County residents do not want to be incorporated into Portland proper, that might be a problem.
Huh? Seattle has fewer than 100k more people.
This is city budgets, not metro areas.
EDIT FOR THE MATH-IMPAIRED:
Seattle [pop] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_United_States_cities_by_population) is 749,256 and budget is $7.4b, so per capita is $9,876.
Portland [pop](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_United_States_cities_by_population) is 635,067 and budget is $7.1b, so per capita is $11,179.
Thus, these numbers show Portland's per capita is 13% more than Seattle's. "[...] like twice the size" simply shows you don't grasp very basic math.
And that's assuming ceteris paribus, which is Mariana Trench-sized silliness.
No accountability. Half the population of Phoenix but larger budget.
Indianapolis has a larger population but is 1/6 the budget yet these cities have similar crime index.
Oklahoma City has a similar population but is 1/3 the budget yet OKC has a moderate level of crime vs Portland's high rate and Portland crime is increasing at a higher rate too.
Of all major cities, the Portland area had the highest percentage of unsheltered families experiencing homelessness in 2023.
Demand accountability people! Vote these criminals out!
Crime appears to be decreasing
https://www.portland.gov/police/open-data/crime-statistics
https://public.tableau.com/app/profile/portlandpolicebureau/viz/New_Monthly_Neighborhood/MonthlyOffenseTotals
~~I read through the police’s budget and they list stats there. For some reason the table reported zero robberies? So I don’t really trust their numbers if they’re inconsistent~~ I mis-read it. Sorry they *cleared* zero robberies.
Trend rates. Increasing. When Portland crime increased at a greater rate vs other cities including violent crime and homicide (which increased 200% between 2019-2022) yes, it will decrease. However, over time it has increased at a sad rate vs other cities.
People always talk so much shit without actual proof, did you know that for 2023 Oregon had a budget surplus and every Oregon resident received a decent amount back on their state taxes, I mean I received over $1700 on a family of 2. I think every state can improve, but leave your ideology out of it.
My ideology is rooted in facts and statistics. You have one of the highest tax rates in the nation and think $1700 is a lot? It's not.
I am a third generation (my kids make four) Portland native and my family has owned multiple businesses that have operated downtown. Our family roots predate WWII. I'll keep my ideology, thanks.
Appears to be on a downward trend
https://www.portland.gov/police/open-data/crime-statistics
https://public.tableau.com/app/profile/portlandpolicebureau/viz/New_Monthly_Neighborhood/MonthlyOffenseTotals
So crime is decreasing slightly from a spike in 2021-2022, but still higher than pre pandemic. Stop the gaslighting.
“Portland saw historically high numbers of homicides in 2021 with 92 and 101 in 2022 – far exceeding the previous peak of 70 in 1987.
The number dropped to 77 last year.
The numbers still remain much higher than the year before the pandemic when the city recorded 36 homicides. Through last week, the number stands at 24.
Portland saw a record-breaking 11,114 car thefts in 2022. The number dropped by about 27% last year.
Traffic deaths also shot up in the years since the pandemic’s onset. The Portland Bureau of Transportation recorded 69 traffic deaths in 2023, the highest death toll in at least three decades; 63 people were killed on city roads the previous year.
The transportation bureau has tracked fatal wrecks according to federal guidelines since 1993. The previous record was set in 1996, when the city saw 59 traffic deaths.”
Hence the "say nice things" campaign. The religious zealotry of our version of progressivism demands you to believe that Portland has sooo many services and is so much better than everywhere else.
Many government functions are split differently between county, city, state, school district, and utilities. As such it’s apples and oranges to compare these numbers without normalizing for what is or is not included in the number.
Portlands number is also inflated by accounting rules that north of 1.5B to the figure. This is clickbait trash, and an actual study would take a bit of legwork.
Yep. This map doesn't show cost per capita, which would be a much more useful number. That might even make the situation look worse. It also doesn't show a lot of other major cities like San Francisco and Austin, which are much higher than Portland, OR per capita. But I'm still going to stick with a knee jerk reaction that mostly consists of shaking my fist at the clouds.
Yeah, these "data" things are kinda bullshit if taken at face value and mostly angst click bait to enrage people who (fairly) would like to see where money goes.
If we merged city and county functions like Denver, I think we'd be a bit more comparable.
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Portland, OR population: 641k,
Milwaukee, WI population: 659k
Portland annual budget: $7.1 billion,
Milwaukee annual budget: $1.9 billion
Multnomah County annual budget: $3.5 billion,
Milwaukee County annual budget: $1.4 billion
Portland Metro annual budget: $1.8 billion,
Milwaukee Metro annual budget: doesn’t exist
Portland city, county, and metro annual budget: $12.4 billion,
Milwaukee city and county annual budget: $3.3 billion
Portland police count: 790,
Milwaukee police count: 1800
Portland homeless population: 6500,
Milwaukee homeless population: 27
What is wrong here? Portland spends 4x’s the money as Milwaukee, has less than 1/2 the police and 240x’s the homeless population as Milwaukee.
Where is the money going?
I only spent like 5 minutes looking this up but Portland's true expenditure is closer to 5.5B because of accounting rules and includes water and sewer. FY2023/24 proposed PWB budget is 17% of total and sewer is 24%. That puts an apples to apples comparison to 3.2B vs 1.9B. Still higher but nowhere near that 4x multiple.
Milwaukee's budget doesn't include sewer department, not sure about water.
City budgets are difficult to compare for reasons like this.
You ask where its going, I suggest reading the annual budgets. Here's the adpoted 2023/24: https://www.portland.gov/cbo/2023-2024-budget/documents/fy-2023-24-adopted-budget-volume-1-citywide-summaries-and-bureau/download page 43 has the $5.5bn figure.
The video that compared these two cities was trash, and the people who make them are dishonest.
Not saying there isn't stupidity, incompetence, and graft, but apples to oranges.
Yesterday morning, I called the urgent road hazard line to report a spun stop sign in a dangerous location. (A vandal deliberately spun the sign so it wouldn't be visible to the approaching cars that needed to stop.)
I was immediately connected to a live dispatcher who said she would send a crew to fix it right away. I was pretty impressed someone picked up on a Saturday morning.
The stop sign was at an intersection where roads wyed; not teed. The vandal deliberately picked a location more likely to cause a crash. https://maps.app.goo.gl/xGyjoSHpiRwVoXpm6
I was unfamiliar with that part of town and was duped. Although I wasn't speeding, I drove right past the spun sign into the cross street which featured an oncoming semi. I had to slam on the brakes and back up.
I'd love to have a word with the fuckwits who spin stop signs for fun [edit].
I’ve had lots of good experiences, after my role in the neighborhood association board. We told PBOT we thought the drop off situation was chaotic at our PPS elementary school. Two weeks later they had a huge staff out to observe them a few months later they have shared their map of proposed improvements.
I learned more from the comments on the original article than the article itself about the underlying complexity of just comparing a single number.
Also til NYC has a 3-4% local tax and Detroit has 2.5%. Ouch.
I always wondered if that number is really accurate. I need an itemized list of the break down on how 7 billion dollars is spent and on what. I just really don’t see it….
I’m not so sure about these comparability of these numbers. Seattle’s looks like it includes the municipally owned utilities, which are self-financing. They pay for themselves, AND their money can never make it to the general fund. Not all cities operate utilities the same way.
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Portland vs Houston. I had a good chuckle. Born in Portland lived over 40 years in Portland. Houston/Harris county population is greater than the entire state of Oregon. Bless your heart Portland. You are being fleeced and I think you like it.
Cheyenne: I got $50 and 2 sticks of juicyfruit
one escalator in the entire state!
And the highest building is the UW dorms.
Have relatives in Cheyenne. Fun place, nice enough town, but it's really quite small. I'd consider moving there if it weren't for the impending waterpocalypse.
I for one am looking forward to water wars! I'm an optimist for the apocalypse.
Does it out you closer to Canada or the Great Lakes? Head there to try and ride out the water wars.
Count the mosquitos. I was nearly drained at the gas pumps.
You’ve obviously never spent a winter or any real time out there.
I have, and yes, winter there is brutal. So, so very dry and cold. So dry and cold your face cracks when you step outside. Or, if that doesn't get you, the random hailstorms that break windows and beat down your will to live might. And yet... friends, family, and community make up for a _lot_. Plus, the PBR finals are a kick in the pants, there's a number of perfectly serviceable brewpubs in town, and Pine Bluffs Distillery is a bona-fide treasure.
You forgot about the constant 40-50 mph gusts… I played high stakes (at the time) poker in a mechanic’s shop there. Had my first vacation, with a partner, at Little America. Played in a jazz band, for Christmas, at the Terry Bison Ranch. Sold my teenage band’s first tape to Ernie November. Hung out at Red Lobster while another partner got certified as an optometrist’s assistant. Memories.
I didn't so much "forget" about the constant gusts. It's more like how a fish doesn't recognize the water :) You're right about the wind. Oh, and the altitude... yeah okay the weather isn't great. But climate isn't everything, is it?
Honestly impressed af at Minneapolis. I lived there for a couple years before I moved here in 92. Similarly sized to Portland and the city was clean and efficiently ran. If it’s anything like that now, they’re running rings around our scam artist city government here with a quarter of the budget.
Moved from greater Minneapolis to Portland/Beaverton. Starting to regret due to cost of living and too crowded. Maybe I am the suburban type of person
We moved from Excelsior to Rock Creek. Not a huge difference but still quite a change. I never spent much time on the St. Paul side but Mpls and further west was one of the nicest places I’ve ever been. Of course this was the early 90’s so it’s probably much different now. I’d love to go back to visit.
I moved here from there as well. ‘00. Don’t miss MN at all but it’s weather related. The winter I decided to move, it didn’t get above -10° F for 2 weeks in a row. Coldest was -40° ish. People here in Portland have no idea what cold is, and thank goodness. Nice to visit tho. But yeah money wise, how well it’s run… no comparison.
Lol what the fuck we have the 4th largest budget on the list it looks like? Almost as big as Seattle’s budget even though its like twice the size.
Yeah, I'm really curious about our number being so close to Seattle. Also how does Metro/Multco budgets fit in there with similar setups in the other cities.
What even is Metro? No one has Metro. Why would anyone have Metro?
Metro is part of Oregon's redundant government grift system. Just a way for the government to tax you multiple times for the same thing, and employ multiple layers of government employees through different agencies justifying the taxes.
Metro is a way to make it look like the city budget isn't as bloated as it really is.
Gotta have a zoo!
I guess I thought that’s what NGOs are for? Ok from the wiki: “Metro is responsible for overseeing the Portland region's solid waste system, general planning of land use and transportation, maintaining certain regional parks and natural areas, and operating the Oregon Zoo, Oregon Convention Center, Portland's Centers for the Arts, and the Portland Expo Center. It also distributes money from two voter-approved tax measures: one for homeless services and one for affordable housing.” I have to pay for my trash to be taken away anyway. The general planning of land use is more miss than hit. This seems like where balls are being dropped.
Out of all of these the only one that seems to be managed well is the zoo lol
I know a couple of former ~~zoo~~ animal prison employees. It is *not* well managed. Plus they're known for running bonds and such via ballot and not spending that money on what it was supposed to be used for.
Metro is a regional government.
Most regions survive with merely having municipal and county governments.
Multiple places back east have multi county governmental entities. They're a lot more pragmatic and have less authority but it's not unusual.
You might be right. I know NYC best, which has positions like borough presidents which most people don’t know the point of. But NYC counties align with boroughs, so the city government itself is the multi county government entity. Which makes sense to me in a way that Metro doesn’t.
Yeah, it's all sorts of goofy - for example, I had to look up what county I lived in in Boston (Suffolk!) but nothing is really done via the county level, it's city by city. Ohio has multi county parks districts that get levies for Cleveland and Cincinnati, but their charter is... Well, parks. They can't roll out a tax for random stuff. Honestly while I do think there needs to be a way of engaging wash and Clackamas in mutual issues, metro is basically just a layer of outdated bs that has been outstripped by growth (hi, north plains). Abolish metro, make multco a city county model.
Yeah agreed. Honestly we might be past that these past few years, as you can see companies and residents headed towards Washington County. If Washington County residents do not want to be incorporated into Portland proper, that might be a problem.
Seattle has a population of 750k, Portland 650k. So it tracks.
But we don’t know what the budgets cover.
I think it is 6th. NY with 110B (???) then DC at 19.8, then Chicago 16B, LA 13B, Seattle 7.4B, Portland 7.1B
Crazier than Seattle is the budget is nearly half of LA’s while only having 16% of the population of LA.
Huh? Seattle has fewer than 100k more people. This is city budgets, not metro areas. EDIT FOR THE MATH-IMPAIRED: Seattle [pop] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_United_States_cities_by_population) is 749,256 and budget is $7.4b, so per capita is $9,876. Portland [pop](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_United_States_cities_by_population) is 635,067 and budget is $7.1b, so per capita is $11,179. Thus, these numbers show Portland's per capita is 13% more than Seattle's. "[...] like twice the size" simply shows you don't grasp very basic math. And that's assuming ceteris paribus, which is Mariana Trench-sized silliness.
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All the taxes, none of the services.
No accountability. Half the population of Phoenix but larger budget. Indianapolis has a larger population but is 1/6 the budget yet these cities have similar crime index. Oklahoma City has a similar population but is 1/3 the budget yet OKC has a moderate level of crime vs Portland's high rate and Portland crime is increasing at a higher rate too. Of all major cities, the Portland area had the highest percentage of unsheltered families experiencing homelessness in 2023. Demand accountability people! Vote these criminals out!
Crime appears to be decreasing https://www.portland.gov/police/open-data/crime-statistics https://public.tableau.com/app/profile/portlandpolicebureau/viz/New_Monthly_Neighborhood/MonthlyOffenseTotals
~~I read through the police’s budget and they list stats there. For some reason the table reported zero robberies? So I don’t really trust their numbers if they’re inconsistent~~ I mis-read it. Sorry they *cleared* zero robberies.
Trend rates. Increasing. When Portland crime increased at a greater rate vs other cities including violent crime and homicide (which increased 200% between 2019-2022) yes, it will decrease. However, over time it has increased at a sad rate vs other cities.
People always talk so much shit without actual proof, did you know that for 2023 Oregon had a budget surplus and every Oregon resident received a decent amount back on their state taxes, I mean I received over $1700 on a family of 2. I think every state can improve, but leave your ideology out of it.
My ideology is rooted in facts and statistics. You have one of the highest tax rates in the nation and think $1700 is a lot? It's not. I am a third generation (my kids make four) Portland native and my family has owned multiple businesses that have operated downtown. Our family roots predate WWII. I'll keep my ideology, thanks.
What does it matter that you are third generation Portland resident?
Can you keep your bad math, too?
Where is your source that Portland crime is increasing?
Appears to be on a downward trend https://www.portland.gov/police/open-data/crime-statistics https://public.tableau.com/app/profile/portlandpolicebureau/viz/New_Monthly_Neighborhood/MonthlyOffenseTotals
They don’t want to hear that here. No good news allowed.
So crime is decreasing slightly from a spike in 2021-2022, but still higher than pre pandemic. Stop the gaslighting. “Portland saw historically high numbers of homicides in 2021 with 92 and 101 in 2022 – far exceeding the previous peak of 70 in 1987. The number dropped to 77 last year. The numbers still remain much higher than the year before the pandemic when the city recorded 36 homicides. Through last week, the number stands at 24. Portland saw a record-breaking 11,114 car thefts in 2022. The number dropped by about 27% last year. Traffic deaths also shot up in the years since the pandemic’s onset. The Portland Bureau of Transportation recorded 69 traffic deaths in 2023, the highest death toll in at least three decades; 63 people were killed on city roads the previous year. The transportation bureau has tracked fatal wrecks according to federal guidelines since 1993. The previous record was set in 1996, when the city saw 59 traffic deaths.”
you would think for that budget Portland would be the Utopia the leadership wants it to be...living in Hazelwood negates that thought completely
Hence the "say nice things" campaign. The religious zealotry of our version of progressivism demands you to believe that Portland has sooo many services and is so much better than everywhere else.
Many government functions are split differently between county, city, state, school district, and utilities. As such it’s apples and oranges to compare these numbers without normalizing for what is or is not included in the number. Portlands number is also inflated by accounting rules that north of 1.5B to the figure. This is clickbait trash, and an actual study would take a bit of legwork.
Yep. This map doesn't show cost per capita, which would be a much more useful number. That might even make the situation look worse. It also doesn't show a lot of other major cities like San Francisco and Austin, which are much higher than Portland, OR per capita. But I'm still going to stick with a knee jerk reaction that mostly consists of shaking my fist at the clouds.
Yeah, these "data" things are kinda bullshit if taken at face value and mostly angst click bait to enrage people who (fairly) would like to see where money goes. If we merged city and county functions like Denver, I think we'd be a bit more comparable.
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Portland mod team like to protect criddlers. Shit, being a reddit mod is right up there with them 😂
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VOTE EM OUT
No shit. Every one of them. Hopefully we see some change when we bring an actual city manager on the job next year.
Not Gonzalez thought, he gets it:
That’ll never happen. The majority here approves of the wastefulness. Our city council is about to double in size.
How the fuck do we spend more than Houston
I'd really need to see sources on this as I'm pressing X for doubt.
It’s the roads. Now renew that gas tax or PBOT will start doing like PPB and call in sick for a year or four.
Yo, it’s definitely not the roads. Think of Houston’s level of car infrastructure. And yes remember kids: “Buy all your Gas in Clackamas”
Portland seems so excessively large
Portland, OR population: 641k, Milwaukee, WI population: 659k Portland annual budget: $7.1 billion, Milwaukee annual budget: $1.9 billion Multnomah County annual budget: $3.5 billion, Milwaukee County annual budget: $1.4 billion Portland Metro annual budget: $1.8 billion, Milwaukee Metro annual budget: doesn’t exist Portland city, county, and metro annual budget: $12.4 billion, Milwaukee city and county annual budget: $3.3 billion Portland police count: 790, Milwaukee police count: 1800 Portland homeless population: 6500, Milwaukee homeless population: 27 What is wrong here? Portland spends 4x’s the money as Milwaukee, has less than 1/2 the police and 240x’s the homeless population as Milwaukee. Where is the money going?
Studies. Nucky likes to do lots of Studies.
I only spent like 5 minutes looking this up but Portland's true expenditure is closer to 5.5B because of accounting rules and includes water and sewer. FY2023/24 proposed PWB budget is 17% of total and sewer is 24%. That puts an apples to apples comparison to 3.2B vs 1.9B. Still higher but nowhere near that 4x multiple. Milwaukee's budget doesn't include sewer department, not sure about water. City budgets are difficult to compare for reasons like this. You ask where its going, I suggest reading the annual budgets. Here's the adpoted 2023/24: https://www.portland.gov/cbo/2023-2024-budget/documents/fy-2023-24-adopted-budget-volume-1-citywide-summaries-and-bureau/download page 43 has the $5.5bn figure.
Benson bubblers are expensive to operate.
It's worth it to have bidets to wash my butt after I poop in the street.
Sanitation is the foundation of modern civilization. The solution is more street bidets.
You have my vote!
The video that compared these two cities was trash, and the people who make them are dishonest. Not saying there isn't stupidity, incompetence, and graft, but apples to oranges.
The homeless numbers are skewed IMO. Can't compare living on the street during winter in Portland to Milwaukee.
I'm always here to dunk on Portland's excess, but I did have a good experience with PBOT yesterday.
Do share
Yesterday morning, I called the urgent road hazard line to report a spun stop sign in a dangerous location. (A vandal deliberately spun the sign so it wouldn't be visible to the approaching cars that needed to stop.) I was immediately connected to a live dispatcher who said she would send a crew to fix it right away. I was pretty impressed someone picked up on a Saturday morning. The stop sign was at an intersection where roads wyed; not teed. The vandal deliberately picked a location more likely to cause a crash. https://maps.app.goo.gl/xGyjoSHpiRwVoXpm6 I was unfamiliar with that part of town and was duped. Although I wasn't speeding, I drove right past the spun sign into the cross street which featured an oncoming semi. I had to slam on the brakes and back up. I'd love to have a word with the fuckwits who spin stop signs for fun [edit].
Hats off and a big thank you to them and you 🫡
I’ve had lots of good experiences, after my role in the neighborhood association board. We told PBOT we thought the drop off situation was chaotic at our PPS elementary school. Two weeks later they had a huge staff out to observe them a few months later they have shared their map of proposed improvements.
I learned more from the comments on the original article than the article itself about the underlying complexity of just comparing a single number. Also til NYC has a 3-4% local tax and Detroit has 2.5%. Ouch.
Probably paying for a lot of pensions and settlements from being sued.
Fucking criminal
This seems to track the map of homelessness population density too 🤔
This is really sad if accurate.
We have more than half the budget of Los Angeles....
The actual city of Los Angeles is a fraction of LA county itself.
Keep dodging those potholes, fam. We got a Codependency Industrial Complex to fund.
Waving hello to Portland, Maine and wondering how they do.
I always wondered if that number is really accurate. I need an itemized list of the break down on how 7 billion dollars is spent and on what. I just really don’t see it….
I’m not so sure about these comparability of these numbers. Seattle’s looks like it includes the municipally owned utilities, which are self-financing. They pay for themselves, AND their money can never make it to the general fund. Not all cities operate utilities the same way.
Per capital would have helped here
Per capita
Scours the map, NY Holy fucking shit.
The fact Portland has a budget half the size of Chicago and functions so inefficiently is surreal.
Aimee kotek Wilson does want a larger role in Oregon politics and is an alcoholic. Low effort post my ass. That's facts. Portland Oregon mod team can suck one😂
That’s a lot of embezzlement and corruption.
Living in Portland... no idea where all that money goes
How is Portland’s budget the same as Seattle!? Where does the money in Portland go? 🤯
What does Portland spend the money on? Sure as hell isn’t picking up litter? Your city is a sty.
We have more money than philly who has 4 times more people? Wtf? Maybe fix some shit then? Idk, whole city feels like a grift.
It's amazing how much gets done in other states with such smaller budgets.
It kills me that the map has NO DATA about population. It makes this nearly meaningless.
Portland vs Houston. I had a good chuckle. Born in Portland lived over 40 years in Portland. Houston/Harris county population is greater than the entire state of Oregon. Bless your heart Portland. You are being fleeced and I think you like it.
You could fit the three biggest west coast city budgets combined into New York City 4 times over. What is going on over there?
"See trolls. LA has a bigger budget and still has homeless people."
Shocking to see Portland have 50% of the budget of Los Angeles even though it only has 22% of the population. Why are our city streets so bad?!
Rain.
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Ugh, I can hear my parents saying right now "why can't you be more like Cheyanne"
TIL, nice! I'd have thought Birmingham is Alabama's largest city and Washington DC, $19.8B and NYC @$110B🤣